date:20070412


Where?

OTOH, I am looking for a good rechroming shop anywhere in te USA.


On 4/12/07, RICHARD FIne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Would like to find a new mechanic

Thanks,

Rick
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke

2007-04-12 Thread Tom Hargrave

And there's no long term cost to coal?

I'll grant that the mining cost may be a wash. But with coal, you dump
millions of tons of CO2 in the air. Then you have to dispose of the ash
& you can't just bury the stuff because it's very acitic and will leach
into the water system. Then you have all of the combustion byproducts
that used to go out the stak and are now cleaned by scrubbers. Just
because sulfur dioxide and a dozen or more cancer causing agents are not
going out the stacks anymore does not mean they are not being produced.
They are being cleaned out of the exhaust and still need to be dealt
with (disposed of)

Tom Hargrave

-Original Message-
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: 4/12/07 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke

It will considerably dampen the enthusiasm of even the most ardent
adherents
if they honestly consider the entire life cycle of nuclear power, from
uranium mining + processing, through enrichment to plant construction,
operations and waste disposal and plant decommissioning.  It's quite a
trip.

On 4/12/07, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Potter, Tom E wrote:
> > I have yet to hear ANYONE mention that coal is filled with radon
> > (radioactive) gas. Coal piles emit much more radioactivity than any
> > nuclear power plant.
> >
>
> Yep!!! Also, you can install 'scrubbers' to clean up coal a lot, but I
> don't think you can clean out the radioactive nastiness.
>
> And if you don't have scrubbers... I don't see how *anyone* can prefer
> coal to nuclear.  Besides developing/poor countries where the power is
> needed that badly...
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Nukes & Coal and other Stuff - No Mercedes Content -

Reminds me of a joke back in the '70s when they were puching electric cars
and they were to be all the next rage.  I think our car that followed that
was Ford with a 429 if I remember.  Anyway, the electric cars of the day
promised to get you from NY to FL for only $1.25 worth of hydro.  Problem
was, the extension cord cost $54,000 dollars. hee hee.

Ed
300E

On 12/04/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Tom,
Thanks for the comments -

The same people who [[[ Coal piles emit much more radioactivity than any
> nuclear power plant]]] ignore the fact that people are only responsible
> for 5% of the CO2 emissions - and the rise in temps in the 20th century
> occurred during 1900-1950 - before the large scale autos and people
> increase often blamed for GW.  Unfortunately, the GW crowd has started
> attacking the messengers rather looking at the proof brought.  The ocean
> produces 50% of the CO2 but it's hard to squeeze money from the ocean.
;-\

The GW industry has become a multi-billion $ industry and those at the
trough don't want to consider anything that might tae away their
livelyhood.
The so-called scientist who signed the Kyoto treaty?  They signed the
detail
report - then a summary was added that made the situation sound much worse
than the report indicates - basically changing the meaning of the report
and
negating the validity of the signatures.  Some scientist has to threaten
legal action to have their names removed.

Anyway - my MB is running great!  Getting ready to change the rear axle
fluid to Mobil 1 synthetic.  It should allow me to get 100 mpg's and go
0-60
in 3 sec.
;-)

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
.
- Original Message -
From: "Potter, Tom E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke

>I have yet to hear ANYONE mention that coal is filled with radon
> (radioactive) gas. Coal piles emit much more radioactivity than any
> nuclear power plant.
>
> I am always struck by the fact that those who oppose nuclear power are
> the same folks who just ADORE skiing in the Colorado mountains (high
> elevation = more radiation + the rocks are the source of uranium), or
> they LOVE the beaches of California (soaking up additional radiation).
>
> Tom Potter (who worked in nuclear plants for 6 years)
>
> P.S. I'm wearing my Nomex drawers, so fire away.
>
[SNIP]

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Nukes & Coal and other Stuff - No Mercedes Content -


On 12/04/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
that must  be some pretty slick stuff Larry. :-)  Just remember an object in
motion stays in motion, so better double check the brakes to scrub off those
0-60 mph in under 3 sec times. hee hee

Ed
300E,
I'm sure I could get a sub 5 sec run out of the old 300E too if something
big enough came up and hit me from behind at 100 mph. :-)

Anyway - my MB is running great!  Getting ready to change the rear axle

fluid to Mobil 1 synthetic.  It should allow me to get 100 mpg's and go
0-60
in 3 sec.
;-)

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
.
- Original Message -
From: "Potter, Tom E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke


>I have yet to hear ANYONE mention that coal is filled with radon
> (radioactive) gas. Coal piles emit much more radioactivity than any
> nuclear power plant.
>
> I am always struck by the fact that those who oppose nuclear power are
> the same folks who just ADORE skiing in the Colorado mountains (high
> elevation = more radiation + the rocks are the source of uranium), or
> they LOVE the beaches of California (soaking up additional radiation).
>
> Tom Potter (who worked in nuclear plants for 6 years)
>
> P.S. I'm wearing my Nomex drawers, so fire away.
>
[SNIP]


___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] SRS Light


Do you have a good charge in your battery?  I know some cars start showing
different warning lights if the charge is low.  ABS will do this sometimes.


Ed
300E

On 12/04/07, Dave Wakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


No code reader. I am hoping it is something easy (i.e. cheap) to fix. I
will
check the fuse and wires tonight.

Dave Wakin


> Got a code reader? It should give you some clue about what might be
wrong.


___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Nukes & Coal and other Stuff - No Mercedes Content -

2007-04-12 Thread LarryT


Hi Tom,
Thanks for the comments -

The same people who [[[ Coal piles emit much more radioactivity than any
nuclear power plant]]] ignore the fact that people are only responsible 
for 5% of the CO2 emissions - and the rise in temps in the 20th century 
occurred during 1900-1950 - before the large scale autos and people 
increase often blamed for GW.  Unfortunately, the GW crowd has started 
attacking the messengers rather looking at the proof brought.  The ocean 
produces 50% of the CO2 but it's hard to squeeze money from the ocean. ;-\


The GW industry has become a multi-billion $ industry and those at the 
trough don't want to consider anything that might tae away their livelyhood. 
The so-called scientist who signed the Kyoto treaty?  They signed the detail 
report - then a summary was added that made the situation sound much worse 
than the report indicates - basically changing the meaning of the report and 
negating the validity of the signatures.  Some scientist has to threaten 
legal action to have their names removed.


Anyway - my MB is running great!  Getting ready to change the rear axle 
fluid to Mobil 1 synthetic.  It should allow me to get 100 mpg's and go 0-60 
in 3 sec.

;-)

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
.
- Original Message - 
From: "Potter, Tom E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke



I have yet to hear ANYONE mention that coal is filled with radon
(radioactive) gas. Coal piles emit much more radioactivity than any
nuclear power plant.

I am always struck by the fact that those who oppose nuclear power are
the same folks who just ADORE skiing in the Colorado mountains (high
elevation = more radiation + the rocks are the source of uranium), or
they LOVE the beaches of California (soaking up additional radiation).

Tom Potter (who worked in nuclear plants for 6 years)

P.S. I'm wearing my Nomex drawers, so fire away.

[SNIP]

Re: [MBZ] 240D Knocking

2007-04-12 Thread Zoltan Finks


Okay, disturbing - my nice engine might not be doing so well. Hmm.

Brian
83 240D


On 4/11/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Raving about Diesel Purge aside,  there is a whole series of other
things that can cause this.  It is commonly described as
"nailing."  Two of the most common causes, aside from crud buildup
are a bad injection nozzle or a broken prechamber.  There is a little
ball supprted on a pin inside the prechamber.  sometimes the pin will
break.




Loren Faeth


___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] SRS Light

2007-04-12 Thread Dave Wakin

No code reader. I am hoping it is something easy (i.e. cheap) to fix. I will 
check the fuse and wires tonight.


Dave Wakin



Got a code reader? It should give you some clue about what might be wrong.

Re: [MBZ] SRS Light

2007-04-12 Thread R A Bennell

Got a code reader? It should give you some clue about what might be wrong.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Wakin
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 7:36 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] SRS Light

The SRS light stayed on in my 1997 e320 this morning after I started it. 
Anyone know of usual cause for the light not to go off?

Thanks,

Dave Wakin 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] Any reputable 300D mechanics in the Yakima, Washington area?

2007-04-12 Thread RICHARD FIne

Would like to find a new mechanic

Thanks,

Rick
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 12 16:16:58 2007
Received: from odin.envisagenow.com ([12.2.42.104])
by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63)
(envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1Hc1yj-0001y9-W0
for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:16:58 +
Received: from STREIB ([12.2.42.56]) by odin.envisagenow.com with Microsoft
SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:19:58 -0400
Received: by STREIB (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:16:39 -0400
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:16:39 -0400
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(andrew strasfogel's message of "Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:00:49 -0400")
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.19 (windows-nt)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2007 16:19:59.0062 (UTC)
FILETIME=[6A619760:01C77D1E]
X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke
X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2
Precedence: list
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List 
List-Unsubscribe: ,

List-Archive: 
List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Subscribe: ,

X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:16:58 -


There are now smaller, cheaper, simpler, safer alternatives to the
massive, complex light-water reactor plants we built in the 70s.

http://gt-mhr.ga.com/

"andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It will considerably dampen the enthusiasm of even the most ardent
> adherents if they honestly consider the entire life cycle of nuclear
> power, from uranium mining + processing, through enrichment to plant
> construction, operations and waste disposal and plant
> decommissioning.  It's quite a trip.
>

Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke

2007-04-12 Thread John Robbins

Seriously, whats your beef with uranium mining? 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_mining

The coal article goes into much much more detail, but the risks seem to 
be almost identical.  Have to make sure dangerous gasses are not present 
in the mines or contaminate the environment.  Waste piles are exposed to 
rain water and damage the environment, etc.  To me the benefit of 
uranium mining is that the tonnage is much much less.  I imagine one 
could argue that the uranium is more potent and longer lasting, but I 
seriously doubt the radiation of the waste pile isn't strictly 
monitored.  Coal does also have the benefit that you have to have a 
reclamation plan in order to start a new mine. 

No idea on the processing + enrichment costs, but the costs of coal 
aren't all that small either.  How many tons of the coal do you have to 
move around (admittedly trains are good/efficient at that kinda thing)?  
I'm sure there is processing involved with coal as well.  Not as much 
processing, but it might be comparable when the volume is taken into 
account.


Coal wins the operations deal.  Although the clean coal plants probably 
are much closer due to more regulations and equipment to clean it up.  I 
think this is a problem that will be solved with time for the nuke 
plants.  Capitalism will take care of that if nuke's want to be a viable 
power option. 

Waste disposal   coal puts all kinds of nasty things into the 
atmosphere (including many times more radiation than a nuclear power 
plant).  On the order of tons of material a day.  Nuclear plants have a 
much smaller volume of waste, and while it is extremely potent, it is 
much easier to control.  If it wasn't such a political hot topic with 
lots of stupidity involved, I'm sure we can figure out a good way to 
store the stuff (I remember reading about changing all the liquid waste 
into a crystalline form so there won't be any leaks to ground water). 

Here's an idea, how expensive would it be to bottle up all of the coal 
power plants emissions to the same level as a nuke plant?


I don't argue that the whole nuclear life cycle is cheap.  It is very 
expensive  so is coal's (although not as expensive).  Saying that 
nuclear power is bad because of its cost is irrelevant.  The cost must 
be compared to the alternatives.  IMO, nuclear is more expensive $$ 
wise, but less expensive on the environment when compared to most 
alternatives out there. 




andrew strasfogel wrote:

It will considerably dampen the enthusiasm of even the most ardent adherents
if they honestly consider the entire life cycle of nuclear power, from
uranium mining + processing, through enrichment to plant construction,
operations and waste disposal and plant decommissioning.  It's quite a trip.

On 4/12/07, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Potter, Tom E wrote:


I have yet to hear ANYONE mention that coal is filled with radon
(radioactive) gas. Coal piles emit much more radioactivity than any
nuclear power plant.

  

Yep!!! Also, you can install 'scrubbers' to clean up coal a lot, but I
don't think you can clean out the radioactive nastiness.

And if you don't have scrubbers... I don't see how *anyone* can prefer
coal to nuclear.  Besides developing/poor countries where the power is
needed that badly...

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: Apple Enthusiast has Quite a COllection


I really love our upgraded Imac but am hard pressed as to how I could
utilize another half dozen or more...


On 4/12/07, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have about 7 myself, not including about 5 I parted out and tossed.
They're great computers and the marketing guys have done a good job of
branding them.  You see guys driving around with the Apple logo sitckers
on
theirs cars every once in a while, but I've never seen anyone with an
Intel
sticker on their car.  Mind you, there's often a StarTrec sticker not far
from the Apple one, so not sure what that says. hee hee :-)

Ed
300E, 331,000 kms


On 12/04/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Apple enthusiast has quite a collection By BETSY TAYLOR - Associated
Press
> Writer
>
> Published 12:18 am PDT Thursday, April 12, 2007
>
> Print  |
> E-Mail| Comments
> (0) 
>
> O'FALLON, Mo. -- Step down the stark, white stairs into Jeremy Mehrle's
> basement and meet his Apple computer collection.
>
> He's got 99 computers. No, wait. Make that 100. He just got another last
> night, he said during a recent visit to his home about 35 miles west of
> St.
> Louis. Dozens of his Apple Macintosh computers are on display down here,
a
> techie's dream party pad.
>
> Mehrle, 29, appears to recognize that there's an inherent, well,
geekiness
> to his computer collection, but he's got a sense of humor about it.
> Perhaps
> at this level of commitment, it's actually geek chic.
>
> <
>
http://ads.nandomedia.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/www.sacbee.com/state_wire/state_regional/135269465/Button20/Sacbee/NTL-McDonMorn_NW_300_0704_ZZZ/McDonMorn_NW_300_0703.html/6363376335636665343265383930?http://bs.serving-sys.com/BurstingPipe/BannerRedirect.asp?FlightID=204529&Page=&PluID=0&Pos=195
> >
> His
> bar is made out of 30 Mac Classics arranged next to and on top of each
> other. Guests can drink at the bar, "but no one ever does," he noted.
> (Just
> imagine how much technology could be destroyed with just one spilled
> drink.)
>
> The basement is wired with 20-amp circuits. He doesn't just display his
> computers, he runs them when guests come over. Classic screen savers,
like
> flying toasters with wings, flutter across screens. When friends stop
by,
> they can play old-school games like "StarCraft" on machines networked
> together.
>
> For special events, like New Year's Eve, he'll play videos on several
> monitors or set up strobe effects on multiple machines, creating a
> rave-like
> atmosphere.
>
> "I think it'd make you more inclined to dance, even though I don't
dance,
> I
> guess," he said. "I've never been to a rave, so I'm just basing that on
> 'Alias,'" he joked, referring to the hip TV spy thriller.
>
> Along one wall, he's got every color - or "flavor" - of iMac. While the
> first one, in "Bondi Blue," sits alone, the other 12 are arranged in
rows
> in
> the order they were released. They begin with the first colors, like
> "Blueberry" and "Tangerine," to the last of the bunch, known as "Snow."
>
> Another wall has nine iconic Macintoshes arranged in chronological
order.
> The computers range from the original Macintosh with 128 kilobytes of
> memory
> to the 20th-anniversary Mac from 1997. Mehrle bought it on eBay and
thinks
> he paid about $800 for it.
>
> The online auction site has been a big help to Mehrle, once he began
> amassing a collection. He first got into the machines by using his dad's
> IBM
> personal computer. From there, he started collecting computers in
general,
> Commodores and Tandys, Ataris and IBMs. He was interested in how
different
> ones worked and how they evolved.
>
> Then he spotted an iMac G4, a computer with a rounded base and a
> swivel-head, flat-screen monitor.
>
> "As soon as I saw it, I was like, 'I have to have this computer,'" he
> said.
> Mehrle hadn't been a huge fan of Apple computers, but he became one.
>
> "The design, the user interface, the way it worked made sense," he said.
>
> Sometimes people donated their old computers to him, but he largely
> shopped
> for them on eBay. Some he has acquired for as little as $10, because as
he
> points out, he for the most part buys them when they're considered
> obsolete.
>
> Leander Kahney, managing editor of Wired News, has written about the Mac
> subculture in a book and on his blog, "Cult of Mac." He said a lot of
> people
> don't throw out their old Macs, sometimes turning them into fish tanks
or
> arranging a display.
>
> But Mehrle's Macs are something special, Kahney said after seeing
photos.
> "It's the most incredible collection I've ever seen."
>
> Mehrle doesn't have every Apple model ever made.
>
> "If I did, that would be awesome, but my girlfriend would probably leave
> me," he said.
>
> Despite a new full-time job at an Apple store, he's actually slowing his
> pace considerably when it co

Re: [MBZ] OT: Apple Enthusiast has Quite a COllection

I have about 7 myself, not including about 5 I parted out and tossed.
They're great computers and the marketing guys have done a good job of
branding them. You see guys driving around with the Apple logo sitckers on
theirs cars every once in a while, but I've never seen anyone with an Intel
sticker on their car. Mind you, there's often a StarTrec sticker not far
from the Apple one, so not sure what that says. hee hee :-)

Ed
300E, 331,000 kms

On 12/04/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Apple enthusiast has quite a collection By BETSY TAYLOR - Associated Press
Writer

Published 12:18 am PDT Thursday, April 12, 2007

Print |
E-Mail| Comments
(0)

O'FALLON, Mo. -- Step down the stark, white stairs into Jeremy Mehrle's
basement and meet his Apple computer collection.

He's got 99 computers. No, wait. Make that 100. He just got another last
night, he said during a recent visit to his home about 35 miles west of
St.
Louis. Dozens of his Apple Macintosh computers are on display down here, a
techie's dream party pad.

Mehrle, 29, appears to recognize that there's an inherent, well, geekiness
to his computer collection, but he's got a sense of humor about it.
Perhaps
at this level of commitment, it's actually geek chic.

<
http://ads.nandomedia.com/RealMedia/ads/click_lx.ads/www.sacbee.com/state_wire/state_regional/135269465/Button20/Sacbee/NTL-McDonMorn_NW_300_0704_ZZZ/McDonMorn_NW_300_0703.html/6363376335636665343265383930?http://bs.serving-sys.com/BurstingPipe/BannerRedirect.asp?FlightID=204529&Page=&PluID=0&Pos=195
>
His
bar is made out of 30 Mac Classics arranged next to and on top of each
other. Guests can drink at the bar, "but no one ever does," he noted.
(Just
imagine how much technology could be destroyed with just one spilled
drink.)

The basement is wired with 20-amp circuits. He doesn't just display his
computers, he runs them when guests come over. Classic screen savers, like
flying toasters with wings, flutter across screens. When friends stop by,
they can play old-school games like "StarCraft" on machines networked
together.

For special events, like New Year's Eve, he'll play videos on several
monitors or set up strobe effects on multiple machines, creating a
rave-like
atmosphere.

"I think it'd make you more inclined to dance, even though I don't dance,
I
guess," he said. "I've never been to a rave, so I'm just basing that on
'Alias,'" he joked, referring to the hip TV spy thriller.

Along one wall, he's got every color - or "flavor" - of iMac. While the
first one, in "Bondi Blue," sits alone, the other 12 are arranged in rows
in
the order they were released. They begin with the first colors, like
"Blueberry" and "Tangerine," to the last of the bunch, known as "Snow."

Another wall has nine iconic Macintoshes arranged in chronological order.
The computers range from the original Macintosh with 128 kilobytes of
memory
to the 20th-anniversary Mac from 1997. Mehrle bought it on eBay and thinks
he paid about $800 for it.

The online auction site has been a big help to Mehrle, once he began
amassing a collection. He first got into the machines by using his dad's
IBM
personal computer. From there, he started collecting computers in general,
Commodores and Tandys, Ataris and IBMs. He was interested in how different
ones worked and how they evolved.

Then he spotted an iMac G4, a computer with a rounded base and a
swivel-head, flat-screen monitor.

"As soon as I saw it, I was like, 'I have to have this computer,'" he
said.
Mehrle hadn't been a huge fan of Apple computers, but he became one.

"The design, the user interface, the way it worked made sense," he said.

Sometimes people donated their old computers to him, but he largely
shopped
for them on eBay. Some he has acquired for as little as $10, because as he
points out, he for the most part buys them when they're considered
obsolete.

Leander Kahney, managing editor of Wired News, has written about the Mac
subculture in a book and on his blog, "Cult of Mac." He said a lot of
people
don't throw out their old Macs, sometimes turning them into fish tanks or
arranging a display.

But Mehrle's Macs are something special, Kahney said after seeing photos.
"It's the most incredible collection I've ever seen."

Mehrle doesn't have every Apple model ever made.

"If I did, that would be awesome, but my girlfriend would probably leave
me," he said.

Despite a new full-time job at an Apple store, he's actually slowing his
pace considerably when it comes to getting additional computers. His
girlfriend, Katrina Bibb, is threatening to get a new pet every time he
brings home another machine.

The first floor of their home is brightly painted and decorated with
furniture that recalls the stark lines and contemporary curves Mehrle
likes
from old science-fiction shows.

The rest of

Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke

It will considerably dampen the enthusiasm of even the most ardent adherents
if they honestly consider the entire life cycle of nuclear power, from
uranium mining + processing, through enrichment to plant construction,
operations and waste disposal and plant decommissioning.  It's quite a trip.

On 4/12/07, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Potter, Tom E wrote:
> I have yet to hear ANYONE mention that coal is filled with radon
> (radioactive) gas. Coal piles emit much more radioactivity than any
> nuclear power plant.
>

Yep!!! Also, you can install 'scrubbers' to clean up coal a lot, but I
don't think you can clean out the radioactive nastiness.

And if you don't have scrubbers... I don't see how *anyone* can prefer
coal to nuclear.  Besides developing/poor countries where the power is
needed that badly...

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] drivers rear door glass for '81 240D.

2007-04-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin


See the link at the bottom of each message.

AJ RN wrote:


Hey all..

New to the board-- don't know if 'parts exchange' goes on here or not..

Some... Individual (edited by me) threw a rock thru the back window, drivers 
side..


They must have been pleased with that-- it speaks to the idiocy-- the 
passenger front door was unlocked, and I probably had $200 in tools on the 
floorboard, as I'd just rolled it out of the garage after changing the oil, 
and looking underneath, to see what I'll have to do to change the downpipe 
that's swiss cheese, replace a starter that isn't always starting anymore 
and do a tranny fluid and filter change..


Okay..  Done venting..

Anyone got an extra glass panel for this-- they'd like to sell??

I looked in my HBOL, and the replacement looks more time consuming than 
difficult..


I'd need it shipped to Ohio-- 43551.. I'd prefer to paypal, since mailing a 
money order would add to the 'garbage bag' time.. We seem to be still having 
winter here..  Despite all my attempts to make global warming 'real...'




___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com





--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

[MBZ] OT: Apple Enthusiast has Quite a COllection


Apple enthusiast has quite a collection By BETSY TAYLOR - Associated Press
Writer

Published 12:18 am PDT Thursday, April 12, 2007

Print  |
E-Mail| Comments
(0) 

O'FALLON, Mo. -- Step down the stark, white stairs into Jeremy Mehrle's
basement and meet his Apple computer collection.

He's got 99 computers. No, wait. Make that 100. He just got another last
night, he said during a recent visit to his home about 35 miles west of St.
Louis. Dozens of his Apple Macintosh computers are on display down here, a
techie's dream party pad.

Mehrle, 29, appears to recognize that there's an inherent, well, geekiness
to his computer collection, but he's got a sense of humor about it. Perhaps
at this level of commitment, it's actually geek chic.


His
bar is made out of 30 Mac Classics arranged next to and on top of each
other. Guests can drink at the bar, "but no one ever does," he noted. (Just
imagine how much technology could be destroyed with just one spilled drink.)

The basement is wired with 20-amp circuits. He doesn't just display his
computers, he runs them when guests come over. Classic screen savers, like
flying toasters with wings, flutter across screens. When friends stop by,
they can play old-school games like "StarCraft" on machines networked
together.

For special events, like New Year's Eve, he'll play videos on several
monitors or set up strobe effects on multiple machines, creating a rave-like
atmosphere.

"I think it'd make you more inclined to dance, even though I don't dance, I
guess," he said. "I've never been to a rave, so I'm just basing that on
'Alias,'" he joked, referring to the hip TV spy thriller.

Along one wall, he's got every color - or "flavor" - of iMac. While the
first one, in "Bondi Blue," sits alone, the other 12 are arranged in rows in
the order they were released. They begin with the first colors, like
"Blueberry" and "Tangerine," to the last of the bunch, known as "Snow."

Another wall has nine iconic Macintoshes arranged in chronological order.
The computers range from the original Macintosh with 128 kilobytes of memory
to the 20th-anniversary Mac from 1997. Mehrle bought it on eBay and thinks
he paid about $800 for it.

The online auction site has been a big help to Mehrle, once he began
amassing a collection. He first got into the machines by using his dad's IBM
personal computer. From there, he started collecting computers in general,
Commodores and Tandys, Ataris and IBMs. He was interested in how different
ones worked and how they evolved.

Then he spotted an iMac G4, a computer with a rounded base and a
swivel-head, flat-screen monitor.

"As soon as I saw it, I was like, 'I have to have this computer,'" he said.
Mehrle hadn't been a huge fan of Apple computers, but he became one.

"The design, the user interface, the way it worked made sense," he said.

Sometimes people donated their old computers to him, but he largely shopped
for them on eBay. Some he has acquired for as little as $10, because as he
points out, he for the most part buys them when they're considered obsolete.

Leander Kahney, managing editor of Wired News, has written about the Mac
subculture in a book and on his blog, "Cult of Mac." He said a lot of people
don't throw out their old Macs, sometimes turning them into fish tanks or
arranging a display.

But Mehrle's Macs are something special, Kahney said after seeing photos.
"It's the most incredible collection I've ever seen."

Mehrle doesn't have every Apple model ever made.

"If I did, that would be awesome, but my girlfriend would probably leave
me," he said.

Despite a new full-time job at an Apple store, he's actually slowing his
pace considerably when it comes to getting additional computers. His
girlfriend, Katrina Bibb, is threatening to get a new pet every time he
brings home another machine.

The first floor of their home is brightly painted and decorated with
furniture that recalls the stark lines and contemporary curves Mehrle likes
from old science-fiction shows.

The rest of the place isn't overrun with computers like the basement, but
Bibb notes, "The bathrooms are the only rooms where we don't have
computers."

Of Mehrle's collection, she said, "I like how he displays them. I like that
he has a passion.

"To me, a computer is a functional thing," she added. "It's not something
you would ogle over the design."

Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke

2007-04-12 Thread John Robbins


Potter, Tom E wrote:

I have yet to hear ANYONE mention that coal is filled with radon
(radioactive) gas. Coal piles emit much more radioactivity than any
nuclear power plant.
  


Yep!!! Also, you can install 'scrubbers' to clean up coal a lot, but I 
don't think you can clean out the radioactive nastiness. 

And if you don't have scrubbers... I don't see how *anyone* can prefer 
coal to nuclear.  Besides developing/poor countries where the power is 
needed that badly...

Re: [MBZ] drivers rear door glass for '81 240D.

2007-04-12 Thread Bob Rentfro


What would Herr Doktor ask at this point?
(no no...nothing about fuses)

Bob R



- Original Message - 
From: "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] drivers rear door glass for '81 240D.



Kaleb, the floor is yours ...

On 4/11/07, AJ RN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Hey all..

New to the board-- don't know if 'parts exchange' goes on here or not..

Some... Individual (edited by me) threw a rock thru the back window,
drivers
side..

They must have been pleased with that-- it speaks to the idiocy-- the
passenger front door was unlocked, and I probably had $200 in tools on 
the

floorboard, as I'd just rolled it out of the garage after changing the
oil,
and looking underneath, to see what I'll have to do to change the 
downpipe

that's swiss cheese, replace a starter that isn't always starting anymore
and do a tranny fluid and filter change..

Okay..  Done venting..

Anyone got an extra glass panel for this-- they'd like to sell??

I looked in my HBOL, and the replacement looks more time consuming than
difficult..

I'd need it shipped to Ohio-- 43551.. I'd prefer to paypal, since mailing
a
money order would add to the 'garbage bag' time.. We seem to be still
having
winter here..  Despite all my attempts to make global warming 'real...'



___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com





--
LT Don
The Crazy Coastie
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] SRS Light

2007-04-12 Thread Hans Neureiter


Check the fuses?

On 4/12/07, Dave Wakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The SRS light stayed on in my 1997 e320 this morning after I started it.
Anyone know of usual cause for the light not to go off?

Thanks,

Dave Wakin


___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




--
Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D

Re: [MBZ] drivers rear door glass for '81 240D.

2007-04-12 Thread Bob Rentfro

- Original Message - 
From: "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] drivers rear door glass for '81 240D.

Kaleb, the floor is yours ...

On 4/11/07, AJ RN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hey all..

New to the board-- don't know if 'parts exchange' goes on here or not..

Some... Individual (edited by me) threw a rock thru the back window,
drivers
side..

They must have been pleased with that-- it speaks to the idiocy-- the
passenger front door was unlocked, and I probably had $200 in tools on 
the

floorboard, as I'd just rolled it out of the garage after changing the
oil,
and looking underneath, to see what I'll have to do to change the 
downpipe

that's swiss cheese, replace a starter that isn't always starting anymore
and do a tranny fluid and filter change..

Okay..  Done venting..

Anyone got an extra glass panel for this-- they'd like to sell??

I looked in my HBOL, and the replacement looks more time consuming than
difficult..

I'd need it shipped to Ohio-- 43551.. I'd prefer to paypal, since mailing
a
money order would add to the 'garbage bag' time.. We seem to be still
having
winter here..  Despite all my attempts to make global warming 'real...'

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

--
LT Don
The Crazy Coastie
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: 12v lighting

2007-04-12 Thread Fmiser

rumor has it that Jim wrote:

> The LM317
> is an active regulator, it's not a simple resistor, so it'll figure
> out exactly how much voltage to drop.  It's not an ideal device,
> so it wouldn't even work right unless it gets to drop some voltage.
> (Look up its minimum required headroom.)

As I recall, the LM317 must drop at least 1.5V, so while not a great
device for battery operated devices, I think it's a reasonable choice
for this project. It's also sturdy and self-protecting. If the supply
voltage gets too high and the regulator is trying to dump too much
heat, it will drop the output voltage till the current draw decreases
enough that it's again safe. As long as the voltages stay with the
correct polarity, those regulators are tought to kill.

I haven't gone back to look at all the posts, but if the LM317 is set
up as a _current_ regulator, then the LED should always be happy.

--Philip

[MBZ] SRS Light

2007-04-12 Thread Dave Wakin

The SRS light stayed on in my 1997 e320 this morning after I started it. 
Anyone know of usual cause for the light not to go off?


Thanks,

Dave Wakin

Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke

2007-04-12 Thread Potter, Tom E

I have yet to hear ANYONE mention that coal is filled with radon
(radioactive) gas. Coal piles emit much more radioactivity than any
nuclear power plant.

I am always struck by the fact that those who oppose nuclear power are
the same folks who just ADORE skiing in the Colorado mountains (high
elevation = more radiation + the rocks are the source of uranium), or
they LOVE the beaches of California (soaking up additional radiation).

Tom Potter (who worked in nuclear plants for 6 years)

P.S. I'm wearing my Nomex drawers, so fire away.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:54 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke

The coal mines aren't the issue. Strip mines can become lakes and
underground mines can be back filled.

How do we reclaim the CO2 emissions from all of the coal we'd burn?

Tom Hargrave

-Original Message-
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: 4/11/07 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke

As a matter of fact, coal mines can be successfully reclaimed.

On 4/11/07, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> >  environmental issues attendant with uranium mining and reclamation
>
> Would you prefer coal mining?
>
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] Drip timing -idle vs full throttle

2007-04-12 Thread Peter Merle


I have always set my injection timing on the OM617 with fuel pump in the
idle position. This I have discovered is in fact incorrect and should be
set when pump is in the full throttle position. Does anyone know approx
what the differnce in crankshaft degrees is approximately between the
two methods?
Peter

[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2007-04-12 Thread Tom Hargrave



Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 1:53 PM
To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices
Subject: Today's Diesel Prices

**  **  **   *
****   *  *  ***   U.S. Department of Energy**
  **  ** * Energy Information Administration *
**** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, **
**  **  **  **   * see the message footnotes *
 *
EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. ***
**

(NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should 
be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a 
"non-proportional" font, e.g. courier)
**


   On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD
(Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes)

Diesel Prices Web URL:
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp

   Average All Types

US
NATL   EASTNEWCENTLOWER   GULF   ROCKY   WEST
 DATE   AVGCOAST ENGLAND   ATL ATL   MIDWEST  COAST   MTN   COAST
CA

   PADD   PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD   PADDPADD
 I IA  IB  IC  II III IV  V
--  -  - ---  -   -  ---  -  -  -
-

070409  2.840  2.813  2.821   2.852   2.796   2.835   2.810  2.951  2.921
2.978
070402  2.790  2.764  2.786   2.820   2.739   2.780   2.766  2.884  2.885
2.939
070326  2.676  2.657  2.713   2.711   2.630   2.655   2.643  2.780  2.803
2.869
070319  2.681  2.661  2.722   2.719   2.631   2.666   2.640  2.765  2.813
2.875
070312  2.685  2.669  2.730   2.719   2.643   2.673   2.644  2.736  2.811
2.899
070305  2.626  2.604  2.693   2.668   2.568   2.606   2.587  2.658  2.795
2.897
070226  2.551  2.526  2.650   2.598   2.483   2.523   2.497  2.568  2.790
2.911
070219  2.491  2.479  2.636   2.581   2.421   2.444   2.418  2.517  2.784
2.901
070212  2.476  2.465  2.625   2.564   2.408   2.429   2.394  2.517  2.777
2.905
070205  2.435  2.433  2.593   2.527   2.378   2.377   2.360  2.523  2.720
2.825
070129  2.413  2.406  2.570   2.508   2.347   2.349   2.347  2.556  2.687
2.761
070122  2.430  2.421  2.582   2.525   2.361   2.371   2.361  2.586  2.695
2.742
070115  2.463  2.437  2.622   2.559   2.368   2.408   2.391  2.625  2.749
2.773
070108  2.537  2.520  2.672   2.633   2.458   2.483   2.459  2.682  2.824
2.856
070101  2.580  2.565  2.710   2.681   2.503   2.534   2.500  2.697  2.853
2.883
061225  2.596  2.587  2.737   2.710   2.520   2.550   2.514  2.713  2.856
2.885
061218  2.606  2.599  2.730   2.722   2.535   2.555   2.519  2.716  2.887
2.917
061211  2.621  2.610  2.749   2.730   2.546   2.563   2.540  2.724  2.931
2.963
061204  2.618  2.610  2.716   2.717   2.555   2.578   2.537  2.707  2.860
2.860
061127  2.567  2.537  2.634   2.652   2.479   2.554   2.490  2.680  2.760
2.710
061120  2.553  2.521  2.625   2.638   2.461   2.554   2.469  2.647  2.724
2.690
061113  2.552  2.530  2.616   2.643   2.473   2.562   2.470  2.623  2.673
2.677
061106  2.506  2.508  2.613   2.628   2.448   2.493   2.449  2.577  2.606
2.637
061030  2.517  2.530  2.629   2.646   2.472   2.501   2.462  2.577  2.602
2.645
061023  2.524  2.537  2.636   2.651   2.480   2.502   2.477  2.563  2.628
2.669
061016  2.503  2.521  2.623   2.636   2.462   2.459   2.461  2.539  2.655
2.703
061009  2.506  2.533  2.649   2.654   2.471   2.448   2.446  2.584  2.697
2.751
061002  2.546  2.567  2.678   2.694   2.503   2.467   2.490  2.679  2.789
2.835
060925  2.595  2.600  2.730   2.746   2.526   2.506   2.526  2.827  2.892
2.910
060918  2.713  2.699  2.832   2.844   2.625   2.624   2.636  3.052  3.014
3.002
060911  2.857  2.826  2.955   2.958   2.757   2.787   2.770  3.236  3.137
3.125
060904  2.967  2.911  3.009   3.032   2.850   2.937   2.872  3.318  3.199
3.175
060828  3.027  2.955  3.035   3.074   2.897   3.026   2.923  3.346  3.229
3.200
060821  3.033  2.953  3.049   3.078   2.890   3.041   2.923  3.349  3.237
3.221
060814  3.065  3.017  3.077   3.130   2.964   3.065   2.974  3.311  3.218
3.220
060807  3.055  3.026  3.061   3.104   2.989   3.070   2.988  3.208  3.113
3.130
060731  2.980  2.958  2.991   3.030   2.924   2.988   2.925  3.052  3.066
3.093
060724  2.946  2.925  2.972   3.002   2.888   2.951   2.895  2.987  3.047
3.097
060717  2.926  2.906  2.970   2.992   2.864   2.927   2.868  2.960  3.051
3.097
060710  2.918  2.887  2.947   2.963   2.849   2.919   2.866  2.966  3.060
3.113
060703  2.898  2.874  2.948   2.951   2.834   2.887   2.845  2.958  3.056
3.119
060626  2.867  2.864  2.952   2.956   2.816   2.819   2.822

Re: [MBZ] 240D 5 Speed?

2007-04-12 Thread JFreezn

 
In a message dated 4/11/2007 1:36:08 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What?

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/310041158.html


Bob,
 
It looks pretty nice!  The trans is worth more than $600.  I  think he means 
it needs a new key switch, about $100 plus labor.
 
 
 
Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 265 K miles 
98 ML 320, 149 K  miles



** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke

2007-04-12 Thread Tom Hargrave

The coal mines aren't the issue. Strip mines can become lakes and
underground mines can be back filled.

How do we reclaim the CO2 emissions from all of the coal we'd burn?

Tom Hargrave

-Original Message-
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: 4/11/07 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke

As a matter of fact, coal mines can be successfully reclaimed.

On 4/11/07, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> >  environmental issues attendant with uranium mining and reclamation
>
> Would you prefer coal mining?
>
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 450SE L 6.9 to drool over but is it worth $12.5K

2007-04-12 Thread Craig McCluskey

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:08:45 -0500 Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I promise not to drive it over 65 mph!

In first gear, that is ...


Craig

[MBZ] Mercedes-Benz vehicle Templates [was Re: 450SE L 6.9 to drool over but is it worth $12.5K]

2007-04-12 Thread Craig McCluskey

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:13:14 -0400 "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-1979-Mercedes-450-SEL-6-9-Excellent-Car-113-108-109-6-3_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6336QQihZ005QQitemZ150111561790QQrdZ1

By following the Wikipedia link, you can get to:

Template:Classic Mercedes-Benz vehicles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Classic_Mercedes-Benz_vehicles


Template:Mercedes-Benz vehicles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Mercedes-Benz_vehicles


Craig

Re: [MBZ] 240D 5 Speed?


It's the oldest sucker punch in the book:  4 forward speeds + one in
reverse and voila!  A FIVE SPEED transmission!


On 4/11/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

is it a euro model?  there were 5 speed options outside the
USA/NA  If it's a 5 speed, I'd love to have it.  If nothing else, I'd
throw the 5 speed components in my 81 240D

At 05:49 PM 4/11/2007, you wrote:
>Yep, 4 forward, one reverse.
>
>On 4/11/07, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What?
> >
> > http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/310041158.html
> >
> > Bob R
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
>___
>http://www.okiebenz.com
>For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
>For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Loren Faeth


___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 450SE L 6.9 to drool over but is it worth $12.5K


Ok, I'm drooling!

Message to Kaleb:  Wanna buy it for me, Dad?   Please, Dad?  I 
promise not to drive it over 65 mph!



At 01:47 PM 4/11/2007, you wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-1979-Mercedes-450-SEL-6-9-Excellent-Car-113-108-109-6-3_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6336QQihZ005QQitemZ150111561790QQrdZ1


Loren Faeth

Re: [MBZ] drivers rear door glass for '81 240D.

2007-04-12 Thread LT Don


Kaleb, the floor is yours ...

On 4/11/07, AJ RN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Hey all..

New to the board-- don't know if 'parts exchange' goes on here or not..

Some... Individual (edited by me) threw a rock thru the back window,
drivers
side..

They must have been pleased with that-- it speaks to the idiocy-- the
passenger front door was unlocked, and I probably had $200 in tools on the
floorboard, as I'd just rolled it out of the garage after changing the
oil,
and looking underneath, to see what I'll have to do to change the downpipe
that's swiss cheese, replace a starter that isn't always starting anymore
and do a tranny fluid and filter change..

Okay..  Done venting..

Anyone got an extra glass panel for this-- they'd like to sell??

I looked in my HBOL, and the replacement looks more time consuming than
difficult..

I'd need it shipped to Ohio-- 43551.. I'd prefer to paypal, since mailing
a
money order would add to the 'garbage bag' time.. We seem to be still
having
winter here..  Despite all my attempts to make global warming 'real...'



___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com





--
LT Don
The Crazy Coastie

[MBZ] drivers rear door glass for '81 240D.

2007-04-12 Thread AJ RN




Hey all..

New to the board-- don't know if 'parts exchange' goes on here or not..

Some... Individual (edited by me) threw a rock thru the back window, drivers 
side..


They must have been pleased with that-- it speaks to the idiocy-- the 
passenger front door was unlocked, and I probably had $200 in tools on the 
floorboard, as I'd just rolled it out of the garage after changing the oil, 
and looking underneath, to see what I'll have to do to change the downpipe 
that's swiss cheese, replace a starter that isn't always starting anymore 
and do a tranny fluid and filter change..


Okay..  Done venting..

Anyone got an extra glass panel for this-- they'd like to sell??

I looked in my HBOL, and the replacement looks more time consuming than 
difficult..


I'd need it shipped to Ohio-- 43551.. I'd prefer to paypal, since mailing a 
money order would add to the 'garbage bag' time.. We seem to be still having 
winter here..  Despite all my attempts to make global warming 'real...'

Re: [MBZ] 240D 5 Speed?

is it a euro model?  there were 5 speed options outside the 
USA/NA  If it's a 5 speed, I'd love to have it.  If nothing else, I'd 
throw the 5 speed components in my 81 240D


At 05:49 PM 4/11/2007, you wrote:

Yep, 4 forward, one reverse.

On 4/11/07, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What?
>
> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/310041158.html
>
> Bob R
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Loren Faeth

Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Acura's

2007-04-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis

I'd be upset, but I wouldn't blame myself as it would probably not be the fault 
of an unsafe car, but the circumstances of the accident, speed, etc.

Levi Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And what if your kids died in an accident 
in a Mercedes while you were
driving a Honda or Acura?  Then you wouldn't be as upset?

Levi

On 4/11/07, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>
> If I put my child in a Honda and he or she died in an accident, while I
> myself were driving a Mercedes, my life would no longer be worth living,
> just out of sheer guilt.
>   Dimitri
>
>
>   > My ex & family (ex and two kids) drive only Honda, and have had no
> > disappointments. Runs the gambit from the ex's Accord to the youngest
> > kid's
> > Honda Civic Hybrid.
>
>
> -
> TV dinner still cooling?
> Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

-
Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection.
 Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 12 01:24:02 2007
Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.228])
by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63)
(envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1Hbo2c-0002IA-GM
for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:24:02 +
Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id n29so297790nzf
for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:23:59 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.114.130.1 with SMTP id c1mr534961wad.1176341038704;
Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:23:58 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.114.47.18 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:23:58 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:23:58 -0700
From: "John Freer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
"Mercedes Discussion List" 
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Technically OT California Emissions
X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2
Precedence: list
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List 
List-Unsubscribe: , 

List-Archive: 
List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Subscribe: , 

X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:24:03 -

gasoline models, no. Diesels, yes.

86 models had the infamous trap oxidizer for CA only and in 87 all
States got it.

Last few years, the latest E Class CDI has not been available in CA
and three other East Coast States. Don't think Oregon has any
restrictions.

On 4/11/07, ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>more specifically (and on-topic ;-)  ); has *Mercedes* done anything
> California (or other 'clean-state') specific since the '85s?
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
>
> Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> > On 4/10/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> In general, is CA emmiss. something of the past, or are cars still made 
> >> with
> >> special emission equipment for the state of CA?
> >>
> >> Brian
> >> 83 240D
> >>
> >>
> >
> > There's still such a thing, though now the laws are the same in Oregon
> > and a number of New England states, so it's probably called something
> > else.
> >
> > Alex Chamberlain
> > '87 300D Turbo
> > '93 Isuzu Trooper
> > '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
> >
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>

Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke

2007-04-12 Thread LT Don


Careful, Kaleb. I've come close to nominating your back yard as a nuke dump
site, cause it is already a toxic waste site.

On 4/11/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


it was?

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> Whoa, Larry.  Nuclear power was on its way out even before TMI.

--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
  89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com





--
LT Don
The Crazy Coastie

Re: [MBZ] 450SE L 6.9 to drool over but is it worth $12.5K


engine could use a good detailing and the carpets and trunk look like
they've seen better days, but a big thumping 6.9 for less than a Honda
civic, I'd say there's a lot of value in it.  I'd put it on my "maybe" list
for sure. :-)

Ed
300E. 330,000 kms.

On 11/04/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-1979-Mercedes-450-SEL-6-9-Excellent-Car-113-108-109-6-3_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6336QQihZ005QQitemZ150111561790QQrdZ1
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 240D 5 Speed?

2007-04-12 Thread John Freer


Yep, 4 forward, one reverse.

On 4/11/07, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What?

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/310041158.html

Bob R
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke

2007-04-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin


it was?

andrew strasfogel wrote:

Whoa, Larry.  Nuclear power was on its way out even before TMI.


--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Technically OT California Emissions

2007-04-12 Thread ernest breakfield

   more specifically (and on-topic ;-)  ); has *Mercedes* done anything 
California (or other 'clean-state') specific since the '85s?



cheers!
e



cheers!
e


Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On 4/10/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

In general, is CA emmiss. something of the past, or are cars still made with
special emission equipment for the state of CA?

Brian
83 240D




There's still such a thing, though now the laws are the same in Oregon
and a number of New England states, so it's probably called something
else.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper
'86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC

Re: [MBZ] 240D Knocking

Raving about Diesel Purge aside,  there is a whole series of other 
things that can cause this.  It is commonly described as 
"nailing."  Two of the most common causes, aside from crud buildup 
are a bad injection nozzle or a broken prechamber.  There is a little 
ball supprted on a pin inside the prechamber.  sometimes the pin will break.





Loren Faeth

Re: [MBZ] 240D 5 Speed?