Re: [MBZ] W126 Center Vents not working.......

[Trampas]

First I would hit the right side of the center console, on the carpet just
right of the heater and radio. This is where the vacuum unit is, they are
know for having bad solder joints thus hitting there you will often hear a
click and then things start working in which case it will need resoldered. 

Additionally things are of course to check that the fuse is good, and you
have good vacumm supply. Either one will cause vents to fail to defrost. 

I have had to replace the vacuum actuators and resolder the vacuum switch
module on all my W126 over the years. Note if you remove the dash to replace
vacuum actuators consider replacing the AC expansion valve as that on the
SELs they are pain to replace with dash in place. 

Trampas

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W126 Center Vents not working...

With this system you are just going to have to follow the 
troubleshooting procedure in the manual.  I do not have it at the moment 
but Im sure somebody can get you the info.


ANGELO GIAIMO wrote:
> Hi Gang,
> 
> Yesterday with the vent or A/C button pressed (Position #2 & #3) and temp
> wheel turned all the way down, air does blow out the center vents.  Now I
> know from the ETM, it can either be the ACC unit or this other "unit"
(for
> lack of a better name) that controls the vacuum to open/close the vents.
> 
> One questionon a W126 WHERE is this "unit"  located, and what's the
> best way to access it for troubleshooting?
> 
> Also, any any advice on troubleshooting/repair of  this problem would be
> greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Angelo Giaimo  1990 350 SDL 265K Miles Still Kickin...
> 
> Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532);
> 2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533
> 
> 
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  89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)

[Loren Faeth]

that never worked on any of ours.  The brake engages long before the 
clutch disengages.  I can manipulate the brake and accelerator pedals 
one footed on SF-grade hills.  But never could get brake and clutch 
on the FOrd at the same time.



At 02:13 PM 5/7/2007, you wrote:

Clutch is on left as well as the brake. Placing you foot over both will
engage both as far as I can tell.


Loren Faeth 

Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)

[Loren Faeth]

not on 8n and 9n  When you get to the golden jubilees, they have both 
brakes on the right.


At 01:36 PM 5/7/2007, you wrote:

Huh?  IIRC the clutch is on the left side and the brake pedals are both on
the right...

Mike
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)


> Except they crack heads.  the worst part though is that they can kill
> you.  You can't hit the clutch and left brake at the same time.
>
> At 10:04 AM 5/7/2007, you wrote:
>
>>Old tractors are just as much fun as old Mercedes!
>>I've got a '52 Farmall Super M. The 9n is a handy machine and I
>>think the first of the n family. SO IIRC yours would have been made
>>from '39ish to '42ish when it was replaced by the 2n.
>>The 2n was made until '48ish when it was replaced by the 8n although
>>I might have the 8n and 9n backwards.
>>Either way they're handy little machines and dead stupid simple to
>>work on. Check out www.ytmag.com if you need help, the discussion
>>forums over there are great.
>>
>>-Curt
>>
>>Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:05:40 -0400
>>From: "Dave Wakin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)
>>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>
>>Not a Mercedes, and not even diesel, but I picked up an old Ford 9N
>>tractor
>>this weekend that needs work.
>>
>>Needs new wiring, points, coil, wires, and the tranny is stuck in gear.
>>Also
>>needs paint, but that is after I get 'er running. I think everything is
>>fixable with a little work. Anyone out there have one of these that
>>could
>>offer advice?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Dave Wakin
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 190D 2,5 5 speed

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

dang, thats a fairly decent deal

Frederick Moir wrote:

Parts car, near Boston MA. I looked at it, could be daily driver but not pretty.
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/324190453.html
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

   
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 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Center Vents not working.......

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

With this system you are just going to have to follow the 
troubleshooting procedure in the manual.  I do not have it at the moment 
but Im sure somebody can get you the info.



ANGELO GIAIMO wrote:

Hi Gang,

Yesterday with the vent or A/C button pressed (Position #2 & #3) and temp
wheel turned all the way down, air does blow out the center vents.  Now I
know from the ETM, it can either be the ACC unit or this other "unit"  (for
lack of a better name) that controls the vacuum to open/close the vents.

One questionon a W126 WHERE is this "unit"  located, and what's the
best way to access it for troubleshooting?

Also, any any advice on troubleshooting/repair of  this problem would be
greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Angelo Giaimo  1990 350 SDL 265K Miles Still Kickin...

Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532);
2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533



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 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] freak of nature

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well, diesel went to 2.59 today.

wilton strickland wrote:

LarryT,  send me some of that $2.53 Diesel.

Wilton

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 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Rare Mercedes SL model

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 5/7/07, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It must have been a 280SL.  I'd better get my feelers recalibrated =-)!




I have often seen a W107 280SL in downtown Portland as well.  One
particular one, I mean---red with a stick shift, parked at the south
end of town near the KOIN Tower (2nd and Market or so).

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper
'86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC

Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 190 Diesel 5 speed - $999 (saugus)

[Rich Thomas]

There is no E in Saugus, but there is a great place on Rt 1 that makes 
their own amazingly tasty sausages.  And of course the world renowned 
Hilltop Steak House.  Some of the local Irish and Italian gangstas have 
also made sausages of some of their goodfellas up there too, or at least 
aerated them pretty well before stuffing them in car trunks.


--R

andrew strasfogel wrote:

Saugus, a Boston suburb, is also an anagram for sausage

On 5/7/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

I just received this post, but no picture. Where is this car located? I
don't recognize the name of the location.

Brian


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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 turbo wagongeist

[BillR]

While we are on the demons and the holy water in the clove box [I can do
exorcisms already - no big deal there] the main response I have gotten
showing the pictures to family and friends [in addition to how nice the car
looks] is people pointing out the headlight wiper that is a bit off kilter.
Was the holy water thrown too close to the washer?
BillR

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 turbo wagongeist

Ok Don wrote: 

 

"I've been wondering why Snook wanted to sell this car  is the
300SEL haunted also?" 

 

Oh crap! I forgot to tell you. That little vile of water I kept in the
glove box is holy water.  You can have to springle it on the hood star,
click your heels (they don't have to be ruby) and say there is no place
like Kansas. Then, place your hands on the air bag and shout 

 

"DEMONS OUT!"  

 

It will work fine. :-) 

 

I tell you what since you are having problems, I have a deal for you.
Place a $1500 cashiers check in the glove box, drive up here to Wichita
and I will trade you for the 1990 300SEL - wagongeist not included (and
the sheepskins won't be included either). :-) 

 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale)  

Professional Wagongeist Exorcist  -- Satisfaction Guaranteed - (subject
to terms and conditions, i.e. not a real guarantee).  

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[MBZ] Cheap Diesel truck (6.5) in Kansas no affiliation

[Donald Snook]

Lots of miles, but cheap. 

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1994-Chevrolet-C1500-Extended-Cab-4x4-Tur
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tem

 

 

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Re: [MBZ] High Beam Blues

[andrew strasfogel]

It would be simplest to swap out the combination switch with a cheap used
one.

On 5/7/07, Potter, Tom E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I would first make sure that the ground and other connections at the
bulb were good.

Tom Potter

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Subject: [MBZ] High Beam Blues

All,

The high beam on the 74 240D is acting up.  The right hand headlight
goes dark when high is selected.  A new bulb gives the same response.
Fuses in the fusebox are fine.  Where are the connections and relays
that ought to be checked?

Thanks,


Bruce
82 300CD 348kmi 'His'
85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place
74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen'
73 220D 'Fnu Lnu'

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Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 190 Diesel 5 speed - $999 (saugus)

[andrew strasfogel]

Saugus, a Boston suburb, is also an anagram for sausage

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I just received this post, but no picture. Where is this car located? I
don't recognize the name of the location.

Brian


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Re: [MBZ] Seeking 190D 5spd

[Zoltan Finks]

Huh. Interesting - maybe a couple miles per gallon difference or so betwix
the 2.2 and the 2.5?

I know I asked this several days ago, but is there any "California
Emissions" on cars in CA? I know of one 190D in CA, but the seller is, well,
wierd.

He does say, though, that he will drive the car to a mechanic of my choice
if I pay the mechanic.

Brian

On 5/7/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Zoltan Finks wrote:
>
> Anyway, we are adamant that we want a manny, and we want the 2.2 because
it
> gets the maximum mileage - even the elusive 40 mpg a times ?? And it
seems
> that MB tex is almost always found - we don't want cloth.

You're not going to find cloth unless you find a gray market car.
I don't think there is much difference in MPG between the 2.2 4 cylinder
and the 2.5 5 cylinder, probably because the 2.5 is geared a little
taller.
There's probably more difference in mpg between a 2.0 euro and a 2.2 USA
than there is between a 2.2 and a 2.5.

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[MBZ] High Beam Blues

[B Dike]

All,

The high beam on the 74 240D is acting up.  The right hand headlight goes dark 
when high is selected.  A new bulb gives the same response.  Fuses in the 
fusebox are fine.  Where are the connections and relays that ought to be 
checked?

Thanks,


Bruce
82 300CD 348kmi 'His'
85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place
74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen'
73 220D 'Fnu Lnu'
   
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I would first make sure that the ground and other connections at the
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Subject: [MBZ] High Beam Blues

All,

The high beam on the 74 240D is acting up.  The right hand headlight
goes dark when high is selected.  A new bulb gives the same response.
Fuses in the fusebox are fine.  Where are the connections and relays
that ought to be checked?

Thanks,


Bruce
82 300CD 348kmi 'His'
85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place
74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen'
73 220D 'Fnu Lnu'
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Re: [MBZ] Seeking 190D 5spd

[Mitch Haley]

Zoltan Finks wrote:
> 
> Anyway, we are adamant that we want a manny, and we want the 2.2 because it
> gets the maximum mileage - even the elusive 40 mpg a times ?? And it seems
> that MB tex is almost always found - we don't want cloth.

You're not going to find cloth unless you find a gray market car. 
I don't think there is much difference in MPG between the 2.2 4 cylinder
and the 2.5 5 cylinder, probably because the 2.5 is geared a little taller.
There's probably more difference in mpg between a 2.0 euro and a 2.2 USA
than there is between a 2.2 and a 2.5.

Re: [MBZ] Seeking 190D 5spd

[Mitch Haley]

Donald Snook wrote:
> 
> I found a few 190D 2.5's on ebay.  Both are automatics.   These are hard
> to find and especially hard to find with a manual.

I would think a 2.0 euro 5sp would be as common in the USA as a 2.5 MBUSA 5sp.
The only factory 2.5 5sp I know of is Ron Dwelle's, and it may be a euro, I
can't remember. You should be able to find parts for a 5sp conversion for
$500 to $1000 if you find a good deal on a 190D automatic.

Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)

[Zeitgeist]

I used to have a '44 2N--stout but crude little beasts.  The brakes almost
never work because they're nearly always coated in 90wt oil--stupid design.
Ford fixed that problem when they came out with the 8N in '48(?)

On 5/7/07, Dave Wakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Clutch is on left as well as the brake. Placing you foot over both will
engage both as far as I can tell.

Dave Wakin

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> Huh?  IIRC the clutch is on the left side and the brake pedals are both
on
> the right...
>
> Mike
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>
>
>> Except they crack heads.  the worst part though is that they can kill
>> you.  You can't hit the clutch and left brake at the same time.
>>
>> At 10:04 AM 5/7/2007, you wrote:
>>
>>>Old tractors are just as much fun as old Mercedes!
>>>I've got a '52 Farmall Super M. The 9n is a handy machine and I
>>>think the first of the n family. SO IIRC yours would have been made
>>>from '39ish to '42ish when it was replaced by the 2n.
>>>The 2n was made until '48ish when it was replaced by the 8n although
>>>I might have the 8n and 9n backwards.
>>>Either way they're handy little machines and dead stupid simple to
>>>work on. Check out www.ytmag.com if you need help, the discussion
>>>forums over there are great.
>>>
>>>-Curt
>>>
>>>Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:05:40 -0400
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>>>Not a Mercedes, and not even diesel, but I picked up an old Ford 9N
>>>tractor
>>>this weekend that needs work.
>>>
>>>Needs new wiring, points, coil, wires, and the tranny is stuck in gear.
>>>Also
>>>needs paint, but that is after I get 'er running. I think everything is
>>>fixable with a little work. Anyone out there have one of these that
>>>could
>>>offer advice?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 190 Diesel 5 speed - $999 (saugus)

[Zoltan Finks]

I just received this post, but no picture. Where is this car located? I
don't recognize the name of the location.

Brian


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Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there ....How much can 2

[Zoltan Finks]

Yes, they live in the house. In fact I have had one while living in an
apartment. It is just important to give them exercise daily - the more
exercise the better-behaved the dog. And this is a breed that will not be
ignored. They demand personal attention - not just the occasional pat on the
head. Letting them live in the yard full-time is not recommended.

They shed a normal amount, but their hair is, of course, short, and it's
hard and heavy, so it lays still while you sweep it up.

Brian


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Are your Dobermann house dogs, do they shed much?
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>From: "Zoltan Finks" >
>My Dobies have been SO inescapably driven to pull that I gave my previous
>one what he wanted - I hooked his leash up to the fork of my Sportster
and
>let him go for it from a dead stop. He did it. In retrospect it was not a
>good thing to do to a one year old - still growing and such.
>
>But I'm telling you, I am almost at the point of not getting another male
>dobie - extreme drive to pull. I think that this one especially has a
super
>duper prey drive owing to his pure Shutzhund heritage. I need one with
more
>defense drive instead.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Rare Mercedes SL model

[Kevin Kraly]

I'm certain that it was a W107 chassis, not a W113.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267K miles, Ursula

[MBZ] 190D 2,5 5 speed

[Frederick Moir]

Parts car, near Boston MA. I looked at it, could be daily driver but not pretty.
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/324190453.html
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It must have been a 280SL.  I'd better get my feelers recalibrated =-)!

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[Roger Conlon]

Are your Dobermann house dogs, do they shed much?

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From: "Zoltan Finks" >
My Dobies have been SO inescapably driven to pull that I gave my previous
one what he wanted - I hooked his leash up to the fork of my Sportster and
let him go for it from a dead stop. He did it. In retrospect it was not a
good thing to do to a one year old - still growing and such.

But I'm telling you, I am almost at the point of not getting another male
dobie - extreme drive to pull. I think that this one especially has a super
duper prey drive owing to his pure Shutzhund heritage. I need one with more
defense drive instead.

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Re: [MBZ] Tornado damage photos

[andrew strasfogel]

What strikes me is how many trees remain standing, the width of the impact
zone, and the haphazard nature of the destruction.  If there had been no
advance warning I think the death toll could have easily been  in the 00s.

This was an F5 a mile wide!



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Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

[andrew strasfogel]

If the Dollar Store charges the same as Home Depot it should be called the
"Multiples of $1 Store".



On 5/6/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The $3 a can silver metalic spray paint at the dollar store works perfect.


andrew strasfogel wrote:
> I bought a can of Rustoleum Aluminum colored paint at Home Despot and
> it does a beautiful job - just like the expensive Wurth paint.
>
> On 5/5/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://carbodywork.blogspot.com/2006/11/paint-your-car-rims.html
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>> This link shows how one guy refinished his wheels -
>> http://carbodywork.blogspot.com/2006/11/paint-your-car-rims.html
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>> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)
>>
>>
>>> A buddy of mine has a client who makes all kinds of canned solvents
and
>>> cleaners and lubes and such.  He gave me some cans  of some sort of
>>> citrus-y solvent that also seemed to have some kind of alcohol in it.
>>> It wasn't nasty and smelled pretty good, and was death on cleaning
some
>>> brakes and wheels and other gunk on Brunnhilde.  I'll see if I can dig
>>> up the catalog or web site and see if I might have some of around
>>> somewhere.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, white vinegar is reported to be an excellent cleaner, a bit
>>> acidic but benign.
>>>
>>> --R
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>>> Allan Streib wrote:
 "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


> Anyone know what pros do when they are planning to paint, chrome, or
> powdercoat wheels?  There must be some definitive surfactant or
> solvent out there that lets you get every last bit of brake dust
> without endless scrubbing in the nooks and crannies (those of you
> with BBS-type spiderweb wheels know what I'm talking about) but
> doesn't harm the aluminum.
>
 There probably is, but likely a nasty chlorinated hydrocarbon that
you
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Re: [MBZ] Seeking 190D 5spd

[Curt Raymond]

Green antifreeze won't eat the headgasket immediately anyway although its not 
good for it. Mine is going in at the end of the month to be switched over. I 
HATE replacing coolant myself.

Mine is a 2.2l, I think the 2.5 manual will be even harder to find, IIRC 84-85 
= 2.2l, '86 2.5, '87 2.5t? Something like that anyway.
All of the 190Ds I've ever driven (3) were 2.2l 5spd.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:28:18 -0500
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So is yours a 2.2? I'm learning that the 2.5 is a 5 cylinder? Forgive 
my
lack of knowlege. I'm taking it your mileage is coming from a four cyl.

Yes, I am expecting high prices, and am finding that they are hard to 
find
cars. But you know, we were just looking at $18k Golfs, and test drove 
a
$25k Jetta. And we want this to be our "nice" car, so we are open to 
paying
even up to half of the $10k we get from our CRV sale - only for a 
really
nice one that needs no repairs.

(Incidently, this will make our 240D more "mine" - there's been some
jealousy over it - my wife feels I consider it mine, and I admit I do. 
I
have to bite toungue when she does stuff to it that I think is hard on 
it).

Anyway, we are adamant that we want a manny, and we want the 2.2 
because it
gets the maximum mileage - even the elusive 40 mpg a times ?? And it 
seems
that MB tex is almost always found - we don't want cloth.

So anybody who's willing to part with theirs chime in - we'll pay what 
it's
worth.

Also chime in with more tips on the pitfalls and virtues to these 
models
(like, is running green antifreeze going to lead to a head gasket 
failure? I
ask this for a reason)

Brian
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Clutch is on left as well as the brake. Placing you foot over both will 
engage both as far as I can tell.

Dave Wakin

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> Huh?  IIRC the clutch is on the left side and the brake pedals are both on
> the right...
>
> Mike
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>> Except they crack heads.  the worst part though is that they can kill
>> you.  You can't hit the clutch and left brake at the same time.
>>
>> At 10:04 AM 5/7/2007, you wrote:
>>
>>>Old tractors are just as much fun as old Mercedes!
>>>I've got a '52 Farmall Super M. The 9n is a handy machine and I
>>>think the first of the n family. SO IIRC yours would have been made
>>>from '39ish to '42ish when it was replaced by the 2n.
>>>The 2n was made until '48ish when it was replaced by the 8n although
>>>I might have the 8n and 9n backwards.
>>>Either way they're handy little machines and dead stupid simple to

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 turbo wagongeist

[Donald Snook]

Ok Don wrote: 

 

"I've been wondering why Snook wanted to sell this car  is the
300SEL haunted also?" 

 

Oh crap! I forgot to tell you. That little vile of water I kept in the
glove box is holy water.  You can have to springle it on the hood star,
click your heels (they don't have to be ruby) and say there is no place
like Kansas. Then, place your hands on the air bag and shout 

 

"DEMONS OUT!"  

 

It will work fine. :-) 

 

I tell you what since you are having problems, I have a deal for you.
Place a $1500 cashiers check in the glove box, drive up here to Wichita
and I will trade you for the 1990 300SEL - wagongeist not included (and
the sheepskins won't be included either). :-) 

 

 

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Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there ....How much can 2, 000 Chiauhauh's pull?

[Mike Canfield]

Hallucinating?  What were you feeding him?

Mike
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I'll stick with my preference of a 'Gentle Leader' over a pulling dog, and 
I

promise that a 17 month old 105 lb yellow lab can pull very hard when
motivated or hallucinating.
BillR

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Chiauhauh's pull?

My Dobies have been SO inescapably driven to pull that I gave my previous
one what he wanted - I hooked his leash up to the fork of my Sportster and
let him go for it from a dead stop. He did it. In retrospect it was not a
good thing to do to a one year old - still growing and such.

But I'm telling you, I am almost at the point of not getting another male
dobie - extreme drive to pull. I think that this one especially has a 
super
duper prey drive owing to his pure Shutzhund heritage. I need one with 
more

defense drive instead.

Brian


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My 2 would be worrying about each other too much to pull together
*anythng*
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> Imagine the traction of 8,000 little ankle biter feet all pulling
> togetherBet they could tow a Benz..LOL
>
> Mike
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>> Jim wrote - <> of
>> pull out of him!
>>> Sled dog?>>
>>
>> don't think my Chiauhauh's would make very good sled dogs - unless you
>> had
>> a
>> couple thousand of them maybe. ;-)
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>>
>>
 Some dogs, especially smaller breeds, should not wear normal
 collars -
 their larynx is close to the surface and is easily damaged.  Ours
wear
 halters which spread the load around the shoulders.
>>>
>>> The last thing you want on canis equus is a nice harness that
>>> spreads the load out so you can get a lot of pull out of him!
>>> Sled dog?
>>>
>>> I can think of more than a few small dogs that could do with
>>> a bit of larynx damage!  Just a bit, now.  Perhaps not what
>>> you'd get with a collar incident, though.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)

[Mike Canfield]

Huh?  IIRC the clutch is on the left side and the brake pedals are both on 
the right...


Mike
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Except they crack heads.  the worst part though is that they can kill
you.  You can't hit the clutch and left brake at the same time.

At 10:04 AM 5/7/2007, you wrote:


Old tractors are just as much fun as old Mercedes!
I've got a '52 Farmall Super M. The 9n is a handy machine and I
think the first of the n family. SO IIRC yours would have been made
from '39ish to '42ish when it was replaced by the 2n.
The 2n was made until '48ish when it was replaced by the 8n although
I might have the 8n and 9n backwards.
Either way they're handy little machines and dead stupid simple to
work on. Check out www.ytmag.com if you need help, the discussion
forums over there are great.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:05:40 -0400
From: "Dave Wakin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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Not a Mercedes, and not even diesel, but I picked up an old Ford 9N
tractor
this weekend that needs work.

Needs new wiring, points, coil, wires, and the tranny is stuck in gear.
Also
needs paint, but that is after I get 'er running. I think everything is
fixable with a little work. Anyone out there have one of these that
could
offer advice?

Thanks!

Dave Wakin


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[MBZ] W126 Center Vents not working.......

[ANGELO GIAIMO]

Hi Gang,

Yesterday with the vent or A/C button pressed (Position #2 & #3) and temp
wheel turned all the way down, air does blow out the center vents.  Now I
know from the ETM, it can either be the ACC unit or this other "unit"  (for
lack of a better name) that controls the vacuum to open/close the vents.

One questionon a W126 WHERE is this "unit"  located, and what's the
best way to access it for troubleshooting?

Also, any any advice on troubleshooting/repair of  this problem would be
greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Angelo Giaimo  1990 350 SDL 265K Miles Still Kickin...

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Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there ....How much can 2, 000 Chiauhauh's pull?

[BillR]

I'll stick with my preference of a 'Gentle Leader' over a pulling dog, and I
promise that a 17 month old 105 lb yellow lab can pull very hard when
motivated or hallucinating.
BillR

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there How much can 2,000
Chiauhauh's pull?

My Dobies have been SO inescapably driven to pull that I gave my previous
one what he wanted - I hooked his leash up to the fork of my Sportster and
let him go for it from a dead stop. He did it. In retrospect it was not a
good thing to do to a one year old - still growing and such.

But I'm telling you, I am almost at the point of not getting another male
dobie - extreme drive to pull. I think that this one especially has a super
duper prey drive owing to his pure Shutzhund heritage. I need one with more
defense drive instead.

Brian


On 5/7/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My 2 would be worrying about each other too much to pull together
> *anythng*
> !
> Ha!
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there How much can 2,000
> Chiauhauh's pull?
>
>
> > Imagine the traction of 8,000 little ankle biter feet all pulling
> > togetherBet they could tow a Benz..LOL
> >
> > Mike
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there 
> >
> >
> >> Jim wrote - < lot
> >> of
> >> pull out of him!
> >>> Sled dog?>>
> >>
> >> don't think my Chiauhauh's would make very good sled dogs - unless you
> >> had
> >> a
> >> couple thousand of them maybe. ;-)
> >>
> >> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> >> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 9:19 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there 
> >>
> >>
>  Some dogs, especially smaller breeds, should not wear normal
>  collars -
>  their larynx is close to the surface and is easily damaged.  Ours
> wear
>  halters which spread the load around the shoulders.
> >>>
> >>> The last thing you want on canis equus is a nice harness that
> >>> spreads the load out so you can get a lot of pull out of him!
> >>> Sled dog?
> >>>
> >>> I can think of more than a few small dogs that could do with
> >>> a bit of larynx damage!  Just a bit, now.  Perhaps not what
> >>> you'd get with a collar incident, though.
> >>>
> >>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)

[Loren Faeth]

Except they crack heads.  the worst part though is that they can kill 
you.  You can't hit the clutch and left brake at the same time.


At 10:04 AM 5/7/2007, you wrote:


Old tractors are just as much fun as old Mercedes!
I've got a '52 Farmall Super M. The 9n is a handy machine and I 
think the first of the n family. SO IIRC yours would have been made 
from '39ish to '42ish when it was replaced by the 2n.
The 2n was made until '48ish when it was replaced by the 8n although 
I might have the 8n and 9n backwards.
Either way they're handy little machines and dead stupid simple to 
work on. Check out www.ytmag.com if you need help, the discussion 
forums over there are great.


-Curt

Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:05:40 -0400
From: "Dave Wakin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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Not a Mercedes, and not even diesel, but I picked up an old Ford 9N
tractor
this weekend that needs work.

Needs new wiring, points, coil, wires, and the tranny is stuck in gear.
Also
needs paint, but that is after I get 'er running. I think everything is
fixable with a little work. Anyone out there have one of these that
could
offer advice?

Thanks!

Dave Wakin


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[MBZ] freak of nature

[wilton strickland]

LarryT,  send me some of that $2.53 Diesel.

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there ....How much can 2, 000 Chiauhauh's pull?

[Zoltan Finks]

My Dobies have been SO inescapably driven to pull that I gave my previous
one what he wanted - I hooked his leash up to the fork of my Sportster and
let him go for it from a dead stop. He did it. In retrospect it was not a
good thing to do to a one year old - still growing and such.

But I'm telling you, I am almost at the point of not getting another male
dobie - extreme drive to pull. I think that this one especially has a super
duper prey drive owing to his pure Shutzhund heritage. I need one with more
defense drive instead.

Brian


On 5/7/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


My 2 would be worrying about each other too much to pull together
*anythng*
!
Ha!
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From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there How much can 2,000
Chiauhauh's pull?


> Imagine the traction of 8,000 little ankle biter feet all pulling
> togetherBet they could tow a Benz..LOL
>
> Mike
> - Original Message -
> From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there 
>
>
>> Jim wrote - <> of
>> pull out of him!
>>> Sled dog?>>
>>
>> don't think my Chiauhauh's would make very good sled dogs - unless you
>> had
>> a
>> couple thousand of them maybe. ;-)
>>
>> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
>> www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
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>> .
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 9:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there 
>>
>>
 Some dogs, especially smaller breeds, should not wear normal
 collars -
 their larynx is close to the surface and is easily damaged.  Ours
wear
 halters which spread the load around the shoulders.
>>>
>>> The last thing you want on canis equus is a nice harness that
>>> spreads the load out so you can get a lot of pull out of him!
>>> Sled dog?
>>>
>>> I can think of more than a few small dogs that could do with
>>> a bit of larynx damage!  Just a bit, now.  Perhaps not what
>>> you'd get with a collar incident, though.
>>>
>>> -- Jim
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] M-1 oil question....AGAIN

[Zoltan Finks]

Ooops was in hurry. Thanks.

Brian


On 5/7/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Zoltan Finks wrote:
>
> Hey, I'm very interested in the Mobil 1 links you provided, but all I
get
> from them is a message that I'm not authorized to view the pages.

Brian, when a link gets split into two lines, you need to put the
two pieces back together and get it all in the browser's address window.

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Re: [MBZ] Seeking 190D 5spd

[Zoltan Finks]

So is yours a 2.2? I'm learning that the 2.5 is a 5 cylinder? Forgive my
lack of knowlege. I'm taking it your mileage is coming from a four cyl.

Yes, I am expecting high prices, and am finding that they are hard to find
cars. But you know, we were just looking at $18k Golfs, and test drove a
$25k Jetta. And we want this to be our "nice" car, so we are open to paying
even up to half of the $10k we get from our CRV sale - only for a really
nice one that needs no repairs.

(Incidently, this will make our 240D more "mine" - there's been some
jealousy over it - my wife feels I consider it mine, and I admit I do. I
have to bite toungue when she does stuff to it that I think is hard on it).

Anyway, we are adamant that we want a manny, and we want the 2.2 because it
gets the maximum mileage - even the elusive 40 mpg a times ?? And it seems
that MB tex is almost always found - we don't want cloth.

So anybody who's willing to part with theirs chime in - we'll pay what it's
worth.

Also chime in with more tips on the pitfalls and virtues to these models
(like, is running green antifreeze going to lead to a head gasket failure? I
ask this for a reason)

Brian
83 240D


On 5/7/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I have one and no you can't have it.
Be prepared to GAG when you see 190D prices. I paid just under $3k for
mine and it needed work. Since then fuel prices have risen so I expect its
more valuable now.
In retrospect I should have bought the 2 owner '84 I passed on at $4k, it
had less than 200,000 miles...

In the winter my car gets 35-37mpg, top in the summer was 43. I've been
driving really fast lately so only getting around 38

-Curt

Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 02:49:52 -0500
From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] Seeking 190D 5spd
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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Who has a 190D 2.2 5 spd. they want to sell? We want to buy. That's the
headline, now I'll provide background:

Thoughts have turned this weekend to looking for a vehicle. We have
been
wanting to get something better than the 21 - 25 MPG Honda CRV we have.
We
have been thinking for some time about finding a 190D with manual
tranny. *It
is the 2.2 engine that gets the better mileage, is that right?*

After finding one and talking with the owner on the phone, we are not
very
comfortable. How many of you can relate to trying to communicate with a
seller who, when you say you're calling about the car for sale, they
say
"yeah?", or "ok?". Then you have to proceed to pry any information from
them
and they speak only when prodded to, and then only in one sentence or
shorter answers, and almost in English (oh, and when asked twice what
his
name was, he chose Mike).

This guy claims the car was given to him by a friend. He's had it
"about a
year". He was apparently unaware of the body damage clearly visible in
the
photos he posted. He claims to have records, but when asked, said they
consist of "oil change". I could go on.

BUT, I am now turning, to you in search of intelligent honesty. So who
has a
190D 2.2 5 spd. they want to sell me?

Brian
83 240D 127k mi. (keeping it)


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Re: [MBZ] Seeking 190D 5spd

[Donald Snook]

I found a few 190D 2.5's on ebay.  Both are automatics.   These are hard
to find and especially hard to find with a manual. 

 

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-190D-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ14011560100
8QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6328QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Mercedes-Benz-190D-High-Miles-Diesel
-Runs-Good_W0QQitemZ220108785741QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6328QQssPageNameZWDVW
QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

These two look a little rough, but these cars are VERY hard to find.  

 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL (For Sale) 

Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there ....How much can 2, 000 Chiauhauh's pull?

[LarryT]

My 2 would be worrying about each other too much to pull together *anythng* 
!

Ha!
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there How much can 2,000 
Chiauhauh's pull?




Imagine the traction of 8,000 little ankle biter feet all pulling
togetherBet they could tow a Benz..LOL

Mike
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there 



Jim wrote - <
Sled dog?>>


don't think my Chiauhauh's would make very good sled dogs - unless you 
had

a
couple thousand of them maybe. ;-)

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there 



Some dogs, especially smaller breeds, should not wear normal
collars -
their larynx is close to the surface and is easily damaged.  Ours wear
halters which spread the load around the shoulders.


The last thing you want on canis equus is a nice harness that
spreads the load out so you can get a lot of pull out of him!
Sled dog?

I can think of more than a few small dogs that could do with
a bit of larynx damage!  Just a bit, now.  Perhaps not what
you'd get with a collar incident, though.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)

[Curt Raymond]

Old tractors are just as much fun as old Mercedes!
I've got a '52 Farmall Super M. The 9n is a handy machine and I think the first 
of the n family. SO IIRC yours would have been made from '39ish to '42ish when 
it was replaced by the 2n.
The 2n was made until '48ish when it was replaced by the 8n although I might 
have the 8n and 9n backwards.
Either way they're handy little machines and dead stupid simple to work on. 
Check out www.ytmag.com if you need help, the discussion forums over there are 
great.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:05:40 -0400
From: "Dave Wakin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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Not a Mercedes, and not even diesel, but I picked up an old Ford 9N 
tractor 
this weekend that needs work.

Needs new wiring, points, coil, wires, and the tranny is stuck in gear. 
Also 
needs paint, but that is after I get 'er running. I think everything is 
fixable with a little work. Anyone out there have one of these that 
could 
offer advice?

Thanks!

Dave Wakin 

   
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Thanks Rich - I have a 2GB MP3 player with the cassette adapter just for the 
audiobooks - but I need to convince myself of whether the problem is in the 
tapes or the player.   But since it has happened on more than 1 tape *and* 
the cleaning cassette,   I'm thinking it is the player  -

BTW, a 2GB player seems to hold more than enough stuff.  There are 30GB MB3 
players but I believe they're overkill - at least for my purposes.  I can 
get 4 or more books on the MP3 player with room to spare -

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Subject: [MBZ] Becker Gran Prix


> Another thought on the audio books on tape -- if your machine is acting
> funky it might be time to think about a tech upgrade to an MP3 player of
> some sort.  You can buy some smaller ones that hold a few hours of stuff
> for ridiculously cheap these days, and I understand that audio books are
> a very popular download now, either free or quite cheap.  Either a FM
> transmitter or a cassette adapter would let you use the existing head
> unit.  There is also a lot of interesting content you can download,
> radio shows and things from the archives, that can be quite wonderful.
>
> I know that might not be a solution to your mechanical problem, but it
> is another way to solve/bypass the problem and might even be easier and
> more fun in the long run.
>
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] M-1 oil question....AGAIN

[LarryT]

Hi Walt,
   The official list of approved oils has these 2 Mobil 1 oils:
Mobil 1 SuperSyn European Car Formula 0W40 and
Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W40.  The MB info says to use these 2 oils, but if 
this info is not available, the custmer should use oil marked CF-4 or CG-4 
if the oils above are not available.


   Having said all that (from the official MB list of recommended Fluids) I 
started using the M1 Diesel Truck oil in 5W40 you;re asking about in my 91 
300D based on the very high recommendatons of Werner Fehlauer (who may be in 
lurk mode)-  I have had othing but good stuff from it - but it's only been 
1500 miles.


   If anyone wants a pdf copy of the MB Fluid Recommendations please send a 
offlist request to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Later, Dudes & Dudettes.

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Subject: [MBZ] M-1 oil questionAGAIN



I see where Wal_Mart is carrying Moble 1 Turbo Truck Diesel 5W40
($22.23 for 4 qts)  Is this the MB APPROVED oil for MB Diesels now??

Walt Lasher
Seattle
S350 W140
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[MBZ] Becker Gran Prix

[Rich Thomas]

Another thought on the audio books on tape -- if your machine is acting 
funky it might be time to think about a tech upgrade to an MP3 player of 
some sort.  You can buy some smaller ones that hold a few hours of stuff 
for ridiculously cheap these days, and I understand that audio books are 
a very popular download now, either free or quite cheap.  Either a FM 
transmitter or a cassette adapter would let you use the existing head 
unit.  There is also a lot of interesting content you can download, 
radio shows and things from the archives, that can be quite wonderful.


I know that might not be a solution to your mechanical problem, but it 
is another way to solve/bypass the problem and might even be easier and 
more fun in the long run.


--R

Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there ....

[BillR]

But if you add just one husky to the back of the team they would be
motivated to pull really hard.  I suspect in that configuration just a few
hundred would do.
BillR


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Jim wrote - < Sled dog?>>

don't think my Chiauhauh's would make very good sled dogs - unless you had a

couple thousand of them maybe. ;-)

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>> Some dogs, especially smaller breeds, should not wear normal
>> collars -
>> their larynx is close to the surface and is easily damaged.  Ours wear
>> halters which spread the load around the shoulders.
>
> The last thing you want on canis equus is a nice harness that
> spreads the load out so you can get a lot of pull out of him!
> Sled dog?
>
> I can think of more than a few small dogs that could do with
> a bit of larynx damage!  Just a bit, now.  Perhaps not what
> you'd get with a collar incident, though.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there ....How much can 2, 000 Chiauhauh's pull?

[Mike Canfield]

Imagine the traction of 8,000 little ankle biter feet all pulling 
togetherBet they could tow a Benz..LOL


Mike
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Jim wrote - >


don't think my Chiauhauh's would make very good sled dogs - unless you had 
a

couple thousand of them maybe. ;-)

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Some dogs, especially smaller breeds, should not wear normal
collars -
their larynx is close to the surface and is easily damaged.  Ours wear
halters which spread the load around the shoulders.


The last thing you want on canis equus is a nice harness that
spreads the load out so you can get a lot of pull out of him!
Sled dog?

I can think of more than a few small dogs that could do with
a bit of larynx damage!  Just a bit, now.  Perhaps not what
you'd get with a collar incident, though.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)

[Mike Canfield]

Hi Dave,
 I don't have one but have worked with and on a few.  Darned good little 
tractors for the size.  Tractor Supply Company used to have a very good 
supply of used parts, not sure if they still do(that was back when they were 
Central Tractor).  They do stock all of the tune up stuff and the correct 
paint at the local TSC.


Good luck, Mike
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Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:05 AM
Subject: [MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)


Not a Mercedes, and not even diesel, but I picked up an old Ford 9N 
tractor

this weekend that needs work.

Needs new wiring, points, coil, wires, and the tranny is stuck in gear. 
Also

needs paint, but that is after I get 'er running. I think everything is
fixable with a little work. Anyone out there have one of these that could
offer advice?

Thanks!

Dave Wakin


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Re: [MBZ] Severe weather

[BillR]

Just keep it on moving down here.  We are way down on rainfall, and are
needing it badly.
BillR
Jacksonville FL

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2.2 inches since midnight here, and it's moving towards Kaleb 

On 5/6/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looks like we might.  I hear thunder right now.
>
> OK Don wrote:
> > The red is East and N.W. of us - moving N.E., so looks like we won't
> > get it tonight.
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Re: [MBZ] Becker Gran Prix

[LarryT]

I'll try cleaning the transport -- as far as tape quality - we were using 
store bought audio books - no much choice in quality.  But when we make our 
own we always use Memorex, TDK, and such.  I might try one of those with 
known quality and see what it does.


Thx -
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Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 10:56 PM
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Sounds like the reverse function is deciding to engage, maybe the tape
is getting hung up and it thinks it has reached the end, reverses,
rewinds a bit then reverses again?  If it has that feature of course.
My first cassette deck did not have that -- you had to flip the tape as
it only ran one way.  Then I got another one that had auto reverse, and
when the tape got munched it would occasionally act like that.

Maybe clean the transport, use better tapes?

--R

LarryT wrote:
The cassette player is doing something strange.  Once in a while it makes 
a
"Boom" sound - sometimes 2 in a row, then everything is normal.  Once 
when

my wife was listening to an audiobook it stopped, rewound a little then
started again - then it did that over and over for a few minutes before
continueing to play properly,

I cleaned and demagnetized the heads but that didn't solve the problem.

Any ideas - I've never had or even heard of a problem like this -
suggestions?  Anyone want to part with a working, un-wanted Becker GP?
Mine's in our 1991 W124 300D 2.5t -

Later --

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Re: [MBZ] Rare Mercedes SL model

[Jeff Zedic]

On 07/05/07, Dwight E. Giles, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Actually, the 'Pagoda' top roadster (W113) came in 230sl and 250 SL as
well
as 280sl. . I saw a 230sl last Friday at the stealer's in CT. Was the
owner's car. Mint but pimped with 123 Bundt wheels-ugly.
Dwight




But we were talking about 107 chassis cars.

Re: [MBZ] M-1 oil question....AGAIN

[BillR]

I find it easiest to do that by hitting 'forward' or 'reply' and cutting and
pasting from there.
BillR

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Zoltan Finks wrote:
> 
> Hey, I'm very interested in the Mobil 1 links you provided, but all I get
> from them is a message that I'm not authorized to view the pages.

Brian, when a link gets split into two lines, you need to put the
two pieces back together and get it all in the browser's address window.

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Re: [MBZ] Seeking 190D 5spd

[Curt Raymond]

I have one and no you can't have it.
Be prepared to GAG when you see 190D prices. I paid just under $3k for mine and 
it needed work. Since then fuel prices have risen so I expect its more valuable 
now.
In retrospect I should have bought the 2 owner '84 I passed on at $4k, it had 
less than 200,000 miles...

In the winter my car gets 35-37mpg, top in the summer was 43. I've been driving 
really fast lately so only getting around 38

-Curt

Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 02:49:52 -0500
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Who has a 190D 2.2 5 spd. they want to sell? We want to buy. That's the
headline, now I'll provide background:

Thoughts have turned this weekend to looking for a vehicle. We have 
been
wanting to get something better than the 21 - 25 MPG Honda CRV we have. 
We
have been thinking for some time about finding a 190D with manual 
tranny. *It
is the 2.2 engine that gets the better mileage, is that right?*

After finding one and talking with the owner on the phone, we are not 
very
comfortable. How many of you can relate to trying to communicate with a
seller who, when you say you're calling about the car for sale, they 
say
"yeah?", or "ok?". Then you have to proceed to pry any information from 
them
and they speak only when prodded to, and then only in one sentence or
shorter answers, and almost in English (oh, and when asked twice what 
his
name was, he chose Mike).

This guy claims the car was given to him by a friend. He's had it 
"about a
year". He was apparently unaware of the body damage clearly visible in 
the
photos he posted. He claims to have records, but when asked, said they
consist of "oil change". I could go on.

BUT, I am now turning, to you in search of intelligent honesty. So who 
has a
190D 2.2 5 spd. they want to sell me?

Brian
83 240D 127k mi. (keeping it)

   
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Jim wrote - < Sled dog?>>

don't think my Chiauhauh's would make very good sled dogs - unless you had a 
couple thousand of them maybe. ;-)

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>> Some dogs, especially smaller breeds, should not wear normal
>> collars -
>> their larynx is close to the surface and is easily damaged.  Ours wear
>> halters which spread the load around the shoulders.
>
> The last thing you want on canis equus is a nice harness that
> spreads the load out so you can get a lot of pull out of him!
> Sled dog?
>
> I can think of more than a few small dogs that could do with
> a bit of larynx damage!  Just a bit, now.  Perhaps not what
> you'd get with a collar incident, though.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] Rare Mercedes SL model

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Right-except if it was a w113 it could have been a 230-50-80SL, also acc. to
Nitske. However, he lists no 200SL at all.
Dwight

Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Wickford RI 02852

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Subject: [MBZ] Rare Mercedes SL model

Kevin,
As someone else has already intimated, the "rare Mercedes SL" which you saw,
if indeed it was a W107 body style, was a 280SL which were made from '74-'85
and not imported to the U.S. as far as I know (See pg. 140, "Mercedes-Benz
Production Models Book 1946-1990", by W. R. Nitske.

G. M. Brown
Rochester, NY
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[MBZ] New Purchase - Ford 9N (OT)

[Dave Wakin]

Not a Mercedes, and not even diesel, but I picked up an old Ford 9N tractor 
this weekend that needs work.


Needs new wiring, points, coil, wires, and the tranny is stuck in gear. Also 
needs paint, but that is after I get 'er running. I think everything is 
fixable with a little work. Anyone out there have one of these that could 
offer advice?


Thanks!

Dave Wakin 

Re: [MBZ] Seeking 190D 5spd

[Jim Cathey]

finding a 190D with manual tranny. *It
is the 2.2 engine that gets the better mileage, is that right?*


Our 2.5 manny (frankenbenz) has turned in 37-42 so far.  I don't
think the gearing is right, I didn't swap rear ends and I think
maybe I might need to, eventually.  Still got the 2.5 auto's
rear end instead of the 2.2 donor's.

I need to get its bad oil leak fixed, I think it's the big O-ring
seal on the front of the IP.  It was sudden, right at the end of
its driving season last fall.  I want to get my wife into it since
she racks up the miles, but right now she's still in the Chicken
Wagon.

-- Jim

[MBZ] Rare Mercedes SL model

[Glenn Brown]

Kevin,
As someone else has already intimated, the "rare Mercedes SL" which you saw,
if indeed it was a W107 body style, was a 280SL which were made from '74-'85
and not imported to the U.S. as far as I know (See pg. 140, "Mercedes-Benz
Production Models Book 1946-1990", by W. R. Nitske.

G. M. Brown
Rochester, NY

Re: [MBZ] Refer Compressor

[Rusty Cullens]

I have them new for $200.00 or rebuilt for $169.00



Rusty Cullens
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Tel 1-800-741-5252
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Car is a 1979 240D with a York A/C compressor gon bad.  Is there a kit 
/way
to rebuild these? Firing R-12 through the system and plan on keeping it 
R-12


Regards Tom Scordato



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Re: [MBZ] M-1 oil question....AGAIN

[Allan Streib]

"Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> it's the same stuff as delvac 1, which used to be sold in the FIVE
> QUART jugs as Mobil 1 5w-40 Truck and SUV oil for ~$23 (same as the
> other M1 5-qt jugs).  They've since gotten wise and are charging the
> same price for 20% less content.

They are selling the 15w50 which is also on the 229.1 approved list,
in 5 quart jugs for the $23 price... as soon as I get through the
stock of Delo that I bought last time I could not find Mobil 1 I'll
probably be buying that again.

http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html

Allan
-- 
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1966 230

Re: [MBZ] Severe weather

[OK Don]

2.2 inches since midnight here, and it's moving towards Kaleb 

On 5/6/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Looks like we might.  I hear thunder right now.

OK Don wrote:
> The red is East and N.W. of us - moving N.E., so looks like we won't
> get it tonight.
>

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Re: [MBZ] Rare Mercedes SL model

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

You sure it wasnt a 280SL?  As far as I know, there was no such thing as 
a 200SL


Kevin Kraly wrote:
While we were walking today in downtown Portlend, my wife spotted a 
Mercedes.  When she told me that it was a 200SL, I figured that she had 
misread the numbers so I decided to check for myself.  Yes indeedee, it was 
a 200SL!  .  Was it really possible to get a Euro 107 with a 4 cylinder?  I 
suppose one could tamper with the badging, but it looked legit.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] M-1 oil question....AGAIN

[Mitch Haley]

Zoltan Finks wrote:
> 
> Hey, I'm very interested in the Mobil 1 links you provided, but all I get
> from them is a message that I'm not authorized to view the pages.

Brian, when a link gets split into two lines, you need to put the
two pieces back together and get it all in the browser's address window.

Re: [MBZ] Rare Mercedes SL model

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Actually, the 'Pagoda' top roadster (W113) came in 230sl and 250 SL as well
as 280sl. . I saw a 230sl last Friday at the stealer's in CT. Was the
owner's car. Mint but pimped with 123 Bundt wheels-ugly.
Dwight

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1979 240D-250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles
Wickford, RI
-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:29 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rare Mercedes SL model

I don't think so. The smallest displacement SL I've seen here is a 280SL

Jeff Zedic
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Re: [MBZ] M-1 oil question....AGAIN

[Sunil Hari]

it's the same stuff as delvac 1, which used to be sold in the FIVE QUART
jugs as Mobil 1 5w-40 Truck and SUV oil for ~$23 (same as the other M1 5-qt
jugs).  They've since gotten wise and are charging the same price for 20%
less content.

On 5/7/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hey, I'm very interested in the Mobil 1 links you provided, but all I get
from them is a message that I'm not authorized to view the pages.

Brian


On 5/6/07, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That is technically delvac 1 in other marketing clothing.
> http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/
> Comparing_Delvac1_TurboDiesel.aspx
>
>
> http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/
> GLXXENPVLMOMobil1_Turbo_Diesel_Truck_5W-40.asp
> meets Mercedes Benz 228.5
>
> Mind you have you a bluetec diesel then you need
>
> Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40, which *is* different
>
> http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/
> GLXXENPVLMOMobil1_ESP_Formula_M_5W-40.asp
> Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40 is approved against Daimler Chrysler MB
> 229.51.
>
> On May 6, 2007, at 8:45 PM, Walt Lasher wrote:
>
> >   I see where Wal_Mart is carrying Moble 1 Turbo Truck Diesel 5W40
> > ($22.23 for 4 qts)  Is this the MB APPROVED oil for MB Diesels now??
> >
> > Walt Lasher
> > Seattle
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Re: [MBZ] Rare Mercedes SL model

[Jeff Zedic]

I don't think so. The smallest displacement SL I've seen here is a 280SL

Jeff Zedic

[MBZ] Seeking 190D 5spd

[Zoltan Finks]

Who has a 190D 2.2 5 spd. they want to sell? We want to buy. That's the
headline, now I'll provide background:

Thoughts have turned this weekend to looking for a vehicle. We have been
wanting to get something better than the 21 - 25 MPG Honda CRV we have. We
have been thinking for some time about finding a 190D with manual tranny. *It
is the 2.2 engine that gets the better mileage, is that right?*

After finding one and talking with the owner on the phone, we are not very
comfortable. How many of you can relate to trying to communicate with a
seller who, when you say you're calling about the car for sale, they say
"yeah?", or "ok?". Then you have to proceed to pry any information from them
and they speak only when prodded to, and then only in one sentence or
shorter answers, and almost in English (oh, and when asked twice what his
name was, he chose Mike).

This guy claims the car was given to him by a friend. He's had it "about a
year". He was apparently unaware of the body damage clearly visible in the
photos he posted. He claims to have records, but when asked, said they
consist of "oil change". I could go on.

BUT, I am now turning, to you in search of intelligent honesty. So who has a
190D 2.2 5 spd. they want to sell me?

Brian
83 240D 127k mi. (keeping it)

Re: [MBZ] M-1 oil question....AGAIN

[Zoltan Finks]

Hey, I'm very interested in the Mobil 1 links you provided, but all I get
from them is a message that I'm not authorized to view the pages.

Brian


On 5/6/07, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


That is technically delvac 1 in other marketing clothing.
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/
Comparing_Delvac1_TurboDiesel.aspx


http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/
GLXXENPVLMOMobil1_Turbo_Diesel_Truck_5W-40.asp
meets Mercedes Benz 228.5

Mind you have you a bluetec diesel then you need

Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40, which *is* different

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/
GLXXENPVLMOMobil1_ESP_Formula_M_5W-40.asp
Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40 is approved against Daimler Chrysler MB
229.51.

On May 6, 2007, at 8:45 PM, Walt Lasher wrote:

>   I see where Wal_Mart is carrying Moble 1 Turbo Truck Diesel 5W40
> ($22.23 for 4 qts)  Is this the MB APPROVED oil for MB Diesels now??
>
> Walt Lasher
> Seattle
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Re: [MBZ] M-1 oil question....AGAIN

[John M McIntosh]

That is technically delvac 1 in other marketing clothing.
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/ 
Comparing_Delvac1_TurboDiesel.aspx



http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/ 
GLXXENPVLMOMobil1_Turbo_Diesel_Truck_5W-40.asp

meets Mercedes Benz 228.5   

Mind you have you a bluetec diesel then you need

Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40, which *is* different

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/ 
GLXXENPVLMOMobil1_ESP_Formula_M_5W-40.asp
Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40 is approved against Daimler Chrysler MB  
229.51.


On May 6, 2007, at 8:45 PM, Walt Lasher wrote:


I see where Wal_Mart is carrying Moble 1 Turbo Truck Diesel 5W40
($22.23 for 4 qts)  Is this the MB APPROVED oil for MB Diesels now??

Walt Lasher
Seattle
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Re: [MBZ] Early may CL

[Redghost]

I hope it was not.  That is just scary.  Somebody felt it needed to  
be pimped to sell in america


On May 6, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Allan Streib wrote:


Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/323890344.html  --  78 350SL


Was lime green a factory color?

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Re: [MBZ] When Gump was hot stuff

[Kevin Kraly]

Makes me remember how badly I want to find a decent '72 220D to have.

You'll have to fight me for it! =-)

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267K miles, Ursula

[MBZ] Tornado damage photos

[RELNGSON]

www.kansas.com/static/slides/050507tornadoaerials/



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[MBZ] Rare Mercedes SL model

[Kevin Kraly]

While we were walking today in downtown Portlend, my wife spotted a 
Mercedes.  When she told me that it was a 200SL, I figured that she had 
misread the numbers so I decided to check for myself.  Yes indeedee, it was 
a 200SL!  .  Was it really possible to get a Euro 107 with a 4 cylinder?  I 
suppose one could tamper with the badging, but it looked legit.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267K miles, Ursula 

Re: [MBZ] Will a new fender fix this?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

looks right/normal to me.

Zoltan Finks wrote:

Is the underside of the trunk always a silver like this, or has this thing
car been repainted gold?

Brian


On 5/6/07, Barry Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Zolton -
I imagine a good body fender guy could fix this fender but look at the
door
to fender interface. Also look at the rubber strip on the fender. It all
looks a bit crooked, don't you think? IMHO, There's a lot more damage than
just the front of the fender.

Barry

-Original Message-
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]On
Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:06 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Will a new fender fix this?

I dont really see any major problems unless you mean by the turn signal.
In which case a new fender would fix.

Zoltan Finks wrote:

We're looking at this car and wonder if the problems visible in the pic
could be solved with a new fender, or if you guys think that the damage
might be more extensive than that. Wonder if the headlight is still

aligned

mouning metal ok. Looks like needs new bezel.




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 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Severe weather

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Looks like we might.  I hear thunder right now.

OK Don wrote:

The red is East and N.W. of us - moving N.E., so looks like we won't
get it tonight.




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 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 turbo wagongeist

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea, we do.  What do you want and what do you want to get rid of?  I 
think I already know this answer though.


OK Don wrote:

You and I need to do some trading, but this one isn't up for consideration.
It's been working fine since ---

On 5/6/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I will trade you something for it.





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 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

The $3 a can silver metalic spray paint at the dollar store works perfect.


andrew strasfogel wrote:

I bought a can of Rustoleum Aluminum colored paint at Home Despot and
it does a beautiful job - just like the expensive Wurth paint.

On 5/5/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://carbodywork.blogspot.com/2006/11/paint-your-car-rims.html

This link shows how one guy refinished his wheels -
http://carbodywork.blogspot.com/2006/11/paint-your-car-rims.html

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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- Original Message -
From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)



A buddy of mine has a client who makes all kinds of canned solvents and
cleaners and lubes and such.  He gave me some cans  of some sort of
citrus-y solvent that also seemed to have some kind of alcohol in it.
It wasn't nasty and smelled pretty good, and was death on cleaning some
brakes and wheels and other gunk on Brunnhilde.  I'll see if I can dig
up the catalog or web site and see if I might have some of around
somewhere.

Otherwise, white vinegar is reported to be an excellent cleaner, a bit
acidic but benign.

--R

Allan Streib wrote:

"Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:



Anyone know what pros do when they are planning to paint, chrome, or
powdercoat wheels?  There must be some definitive surfactant or
solvent out there that lets you get every last bit of brake dust
without endless scrubbing in the nooks and crannies (those of you
with BBS-type spiderweb wheels know what I'm talking about) but
doesn't harm the aluminum.


There probably is, but likely a nasty chlorinated hydrocarbon that you
would not want to use it outside of a controlled, industrial setting.



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[MBZ] Mann Air Filter for sale C23-148

[Walt Lasher]

Ordered wrong filter: I have a Mann Air Filter (C23-148) which fits
Mercedes: 
1995 300D 
1987-89 190D 2.5 Turbo 
1990-93 300D Turbo
Make me an offer and add about $5 for shipping

Walt Lasher 
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[MBZ] M-1 oil question....AGAIN

[Walt Lasher]

I see where Wal_Mart is carrying Moble 1 Turbo Truck Diesel 5W40
($22.23 for 4 qts)  Is this the MB APPROVED oil for MB Diesels now??

Walt Lasher
Seattle
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Re: [MBZ] Becker Gran Prix

[Rich Thomas]

Sounds like the reverse function is deciding to engage, maybe the tape 
is getting hung up and it thinks it has reached the end, reverses, 
rewinds a bit then reverses again?  If it has that feature of course.  
My first cassette deck did not have that -- you had to flip the tape as 
it only ran one way.  Then I got another one that had auto reverse, and 
when the tape got munched it would occasionally act like that.


Maybe clean the transport, use better tapes?

--R

LarryT wrote:
The cassette player is doing something strange.  Once in a while it makes a 
"Boom" sound - sometimes 2 in a row, then everything is normal.  Once when 
my wife was listening to an audiobook it stopped, rewound a little then 
started again - then it did that over and over for a few minutes before 
continueing to play properly,


I cleaned and demagnetized the heads but that didn't solve the problem.

Any ideas - I've never had or even heard of a problem like this - 
suggestions?  Anyone want to part with a working, un-wanted Becker GP? 
Mine's in our 1991 W124 300D 2.5t -


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Re: [MBZ] Will a new fender fix this?

[Joe Knight]

Having suffered thru a much worse crunching of a 124 front fender last
year I feel at least marginally qualified to hazard a guess.  It just
might require a little massage of the underpinnings in the area of the
headlight support but given that neither the headlight or turn signal
look to have shattered there's a fair chance that a new fender will
bolt right up and present no problems so far as headlight and turn
signal attachment are concerned.  I expect the bumper will come easily
back into alignment once the new fender is fitted as well.  The
suggestion to check the margin between the back of the fender and
front door is particularly to the point; If that looks good and the
front door operates without a hitch you've got another good indication
the damage is about as minor as could be.  If the hood opens normally
you should also be able to visually inspect for underlying damage.

-joe

Re: [MBZ] Severe weather

[OK Don]

The red is East and N.W. of us - moving N.E., so looks like we won't
get it tonight.


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[MBZ] SDL oil pan removal

[OK Don]

I finally got a chance to get under the car today. The oil pan comes
out with the engine in the car - but lifted as high as it goes.
Everything went per the manual (engine 01-310.pdf) except that the
manual doesn't mention the bottom two tranny to engine bolts that
actually thread into the oil pan. It won't come out until you remove
them! The manual also says that you have to remove the tranny oil
cooler lines from the radiator. I didn't and there was room to spare -
no reason to do it that I can see.
Now I have to find someone to weld up the damage.

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sit there."
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Re: [MBZ] Severe weather

[Bob Rentfro]

Again...another reminder to me why AZ isn't so bad...

Bob R.


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Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Severe weather



Only the stuff on weather radar that is colored darker yellow or (everyone
to the basement!) red is of any consequence. Occasionally the red stuff
develops a little hook to it, and that is really the only time folks panic
because the wind-go-round-and-round is a-fixin' to happen somewhere.

On 5/6/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



The weather radar this morning showed nearly the entire state of Iowa
being rained upon. Some places in northwest Missouri had gotten more than
6 inches of rain.





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Re: [MBZ] Early may CL

[andrew strasfogel]

I believe it's called pea soup green.

On 5/6/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/323981825.html  -- Jim C. $250

That would be a good price for its parts.  Sadly, no incoming
until there's some outgoing.

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Re: [MBZ] a freak of nature

[andrew strasfogel]

Diesel is still north of 3 bucks here in D.C.

On 5/6/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I really need to start driving my 2.5 turbo soon.  Need to do a few
things to it though, but it drives just fine.  Its loud because the
exhaust has a huge hole in it right under the front floor board.  Also
kind of squirlly, think rear links need to be replaced.

LarryT wrote:
> Just filled up the '91 300D and was pleasantly surprised to see diesel at
> $2.53 -  reg gas was $2.80 something.  Made me smile.
>
> I never would have thought I;d be happy to see diesel at $2.53!
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 turbo wagongeist

[OK Don]

You and I need to do some trading, but this one isn't up for consideration.
It's been working fine since ---

On 5/6/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I will trade you something for it.



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Re: [MBZ] Will a new fender fix this?

[Zoltan Finks]

Is the underside of the trunk always a silver like this, or has this thing
car been repainted gold?

Brian


On 5/6/07, Barry Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Zolton -
> I imagine a good body fender guy could fix this fender but look at the
> door
> to fender interface. Also look at the rubber strip on the fender. It all
> looks a bit crooked, don't you think? IMHO, There's a lot more damage than
> just the front of the fender.
>
> Barry
>
> -Original Message-
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> ]On
> Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:06 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Will a new fender fix this?
>
> I dont really see any major problems unless you mean by the turn signal.
> In which case a new fender would fix.
>
> Zoltan Finks wrote:
> > We're looking at this car and wonder if the problems visible in the pic
> > could be solved with a new fender, or if you guys think that the damage
> > might be more extensive than that. Wonder if the headlight is still
> aligned
> > mouning metal ok. Looks like needs new bezel.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)

[andrew strasfogel]

I bought a can of Rustoleum Aluminum colored paint at Home Despot and
it does a beautiful job - just like the expensive Wurth paint.

On 5/5/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://carbodywork.blogspot.com/2006/11/paint-your-car-rims.html

This link shows how one guy refinished his wheels -
http://carbodywork.blogspot.com/2006/11/paint-your-car-rims.html

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- Original Message -
From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to clean brake dust from alloy (bundt)


>A buddy of mine has a client who makes all kinds of canned solvents and
> cleaners and lubes and such.  He gave me some cans  of some sort of
> citrus-y solvent that also seemed to have some kind of alcohol in it.
> It wasn't nasty and smelled pretty good, and was death on cleaning some
> brakes and wheels and other gunk on Brunnhilde.  I'll see if I can dig
> up the catalog or web site and see if I might have some of around
> somewhere.
>
> Otherwise, white vinegar is reported to be an excellent cleaner, a bit
> acidic but benign.
>
> --R
>
> Allan Streib wrote:
>> "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>
>>> Anyone know what pros do when they are planning to paint, chrome, or
>>> powdercoat wheels?  There must be some definitive surfactant or
>>> solvent out there that lets you get every last bit of brake dust
>>> without endless scrubbing in the nooks and crannies (those of you
>>> with BBS-type spiderweb wheels know what I'm talking about) but
>>> doesn't harm the aluminum.
>>>
>>
>> There probably is, but likely a nasty chlorinated hydrocarbon that you
>> would not want to use it outside of a controlled, industrial setting.
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 300se air suspension W109

[.Afzaal.Khan.]

Thanks Peter .
$4000 in parts  would  bring it near double  the purchase price .not 
practical I guess

mak
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300se air suspension W109



About $4000.  More if the valving system cannot be repaired and you
have to find a new one.  Bags are were $250 each five or six years ago,
likely half again that much now.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Severe weather

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sun, 6 May 2007 20:00:49 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Only the stuff on weather radar that is colored darker yellow or
> (everyone to the basement!) red is of any consequence.

Well, there was a lot of red on the weather radar this morning, that's why
I asked.


> Occasionally the red stuff develops a little hook to it, and that is
> really the only time folks panic because the wind-go-round-and-round is
> a-fixin' to happen somewhere.

As in hook echo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hook_echo


Craig

[MBZ] Becker Gran Prix

[LarryT]

The cassette player is doing something strange.  Once in a while it makes a 
"Boom" sound - sometimes 2 in a row, then everything is normal.  Once when 
my wife was listening to an audiobook it stopped, rewound a little then 
started again - then it did that over and over for a few minutes before 
continueing to play properly,


I cleaned and demagnetized the heads but that didn't solve the problem.

Any ideas - I've never had or even heard of a problem like this - 
suggestions?  Anyone want to part with a working, un-wanted Becker GP? 
Mine's in our 1991 W124 300D 2.5t -


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Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there ....

[Jim Cathey]

Some dogs, especially smaller breeds, should not wear normal 
collars -

their larynx is close to the surface and is easily damaged.  Ours wear
halters which spread the load around the shoulders.


The last thing you want on canis equus is a nice harness that
spreads the load out so you can get a lot of pull out of him!
Sled dog?

I can think of more than a few small dogs that could do with
a bit of larynx damage!  Just a bit, now.  Perhaps not what
you'd get with a collar incident, though.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Early may CL

[Jim Cathey]

http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/323981825.html  -- Jim C. $250


That would be a good price for its parts.  Sadly, no incoming
until there's some outgoing.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Severe weather

[LT Don]

Only the stuff on weather radar that is colored darker yellow or (everyone
to the basement!) red is of any consequence. Occasionally the red stuff
develops a little hook to it, and that is really the only time folks panic
because the wind-go-round-and-round is a-fixin' to happen somewhere.

On 5/6/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



The weather radar this morning showed nearly the entire state of Iowa
being rained upon. Some places in northwest Missouri had gotten more than
6 inches of rain.





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Re: [MBZ] a freak of nature

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I really need to start driving my 2.5 turbo soon.  Need to do a few 
things to it though, but it drives just fine.  Its loud because the 
exhaust has a huge hole in it right under the front floor board.  Also 
kind of squirlly, think rear links need to be replaced.


LarryT wrote:
Just filled up the '91 300D and was pleasantly surprised to see diesel at 
$2.53 -  reg gas was $2.80 something.  Made me smile.


I never would have thought I;d be happy to see diesel at $2.53!

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 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] a freak of nature

[LarryT]

Just filled up the '91 300D and was pleasantly surprised to see diesel at 
$2.53 -  reg gas was $2.80 something.  Made me smile.


I never would have thought I;d be happy to see diesel at $2.53!

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From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] a freak of nature



Was in Cincinnati Saturday and saw diesel for $2.79 while regular
unleaded was $3.17.  Sure was happy I took the 300D.  Actually had
been a while since it was out on the highway and it is not a bad
highway cruiser at all.

Allan
--
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Re: [MBZ] A couple easy fixes

[Curt Raymond]

Good point.

Of course I figured having any air in the thing at all would pretty much assure 
that I never have to use it...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 14:05:17 -0600
From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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 > The spare was flat so I pumped some air into it. I only put 20# in
> figuring it would have more pressure with the car on it...

It does have more pressure, but not significantly. You'd be better 
setting
the tire at 34 psi and letting some air out if you have to. Having more 
to
start will also let you go longer without the tire going flat (like it 
was
when you found it today ...).


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Howdy,
Some dogs, especially smaller breeds, should not wear normal collars - 
their larynx is close to the surface and is easily damaged.  Ours wear 
halters which spread the load around the shoulders.  I believe larger breeds 
have a much larger buffer zone making normal collars safe for them.


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Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there 


> On Sun, 6 May 2007 15:55:44 -0500 "Zoltan Finks"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> You know, I know about the gentle leaders and another brand called
>> "halti" but there's just something about them that seems distasteful -
>> leashing the dog by the beak.
>
> When we had our German Shepherd in "puppy kindergarten" at PetsMart in
> Santa Fe, the trainer was putting Gentle Leaders on several of the dogs,
> but she said it was inappropriate for a German Shepherd. The gal who runs
> the local Schutzhund club, when she saw that all hooking the leash to our
> dog's normal collar did was build strong neck muscles, recommended a pinch
> collar. Made an enormous difference. "Power steering," she called it.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there ....

[BillR]

That lunging did happen several times as we were training our lab, but the
pull is pretty much straight down and he had never gone far before it
stopped him.  He was never injured and is pretty easy to walk these days,
except when I use his normal chain collar...
BillR
 

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Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 7:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why were none of you there 

Yes, I wonder about the risk to the neck were the dog to lunge then be
caught by its muzzle.

And the pinch collar: 1: to me, it's showing the world that you have a
problem you can't train out (yes, I realize they think the same thing when
they see you being pulled around like a kite) 2: my dog actually overcomes
the sensation of the collar and pulls just as hard

Brian

On 5/6/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 6 May 2007 15:55:44 -0500 "Zoltan Finks"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > You know, I know about the gentle leaders and another brand called
> > "halti" but there's just something about them that seems distasteful -
> > leashing the dog by the beak.
>
> When we had our German Shepherd in "puppy kindergarten" at PetsMart in
> Santa Fe, the trainer was putting Gentle Leaders on several of the dogs,
> but she said it was inappropriate for a German Shepherd. The gal who runs
> the local Schutzhund club, when she saw that all hooking the leash to our
> dog's normal collar did was build strong neck muscles, recommended a pinch
> collar. Made an enormous difference. "Power steering," she called it.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Early may CL

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea thats a real color

Allan Streib wrote:

Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/323890344.html  --  78 350SL


Was lime green a factory color?



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 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Carfax if you please

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

It just means there were no records.  Maybe wherever it was registered 
does not show up or something.


Zoltan Finks wrote:

So, what does that imply when there are no records found? Normally, there
are at least the registration records, aren't there? Does this suggest the
car might have an illegit title, or something else is fishy?

Or is finding no records sometimes normal?

Brian



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 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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