Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
what is the German word for Box?) Sprinter Kevin Kraly wrote: SNIPPED Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula who got dropped off at MBI today for much needed attention 2006 Sprinter PV 1.6Kmi, The Box (what is the German word for Box?) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
E M wrote: I kind of had my eye on a small displacement Lambo LM002, it's only 5.2litres. Mind you, those 12 cylinders do burn through that 76 gallon/ 290 litre tank of premium gas kind of fast. hee hee. Hmm, maybe a diesel conversion project?? :-) Now that might be interesting. Know where I can find a LM in need of a $15k engine rebuild for maybe $5k? Naw, I didn't think so. Probably couldn't buy it in the UK for £5k. Hey, Zedic! What's a LM worth over there? Is it LHD or RHD? Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers
Allan Streib wrote: When we sold our first house with a realtor we saw him when we signed the listing agreement and not again until he stopped by at the closing to pick up his check. He did nothing that I could tell to market the house beyond entering it into the MLS, which is really the only thing you can't do as a FSBO. There are realtors like that. I have three answers: 1) If that's good enough, there are services which charge you a flat fee ($150-500) to put your listing on MLS. Unfortunately, the two in my area charge $300-400 PLUS a percentage of the final deal. They do provide you with signs, brochure tube, and a certain number of printed brochures. It's wanting a commission for admittedly doing no work that kills the deal for me. 2) Interview three listing agents, and check their references. Not 100%, but it helps. 3) Never, ever, sign a listing over 90 days. Let them know that if you think they are doing their job, you will renew until sold. Getting locked in with a loser for 90 days is plenty bad enough, 180 days will leave you tearing your hair out. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers
Mitch Haley wrote: Allan Streib wrote: When we sold our first house with a realtor we saw him when we signed the listing agreement and not again until he stopped by at the closing to pick up his check. He did nothing that I could tell to market the house beyond entering it into the MLS, which is really the only thing you can't do as a FSBO. There are realtors like that. I have three answers: 1) If that's good enough, there are services which charge you a flat fee ($150-500) to put your listing on MLS. Unfortunately, the two in my area charge $300-400 PLUS a percentage of the final deal. They do provide you with signs, brochure tube, and a certain number of printed brochures. It's wanting a commission for admittedly doing no work that kills the deal for me. You will be wasting your money doing that. Its 99% sure no realtors will show your house because they are not getting paid. Would you want to work for free? 2) Interview three listing agents, and check their references. Not 100%, but it helps. Yes, good idea 3) Never, ever, sign a listing over 90 days. Let them know that if you think they are doing their job, you will renew until sold. Getting locked in with a loser for 90 days is plenty bad enough, 180 days will leave you tearing your hair out. Thats fine as well, but if the realtor really is not doing their job, you CAN have them release the listing (not withdraw), or call their broker. 99% of the time they will release it Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers
There is no such thing as a buyers agent. And if you don't believe this then follow the cash. All realtors get paid out of the house sale. In other words, all realtors get paid by the seller. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09/07/07 12:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:47:35 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BZT, WRONG. It is NOT the job of a real estate agent to tell a buyer about what the neighbors do. In fact, in OK and most other states, its ILLEGAL for a real estate agent to say those sorts of things. Its up to the buyer to figure out if the property has been psychologically impacted (ie, somebody killed there), or if there is a crack house next door. Even if it's a buyer's agent? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12/Wickapoodia (my spelling)
I disagree - Wikipedia is a community based system - anyone can write anything they choose and anyone else can change it. Also, the graph starts at 1980 (when ozone was 1st measured as I mentioned) but we have no iea of what the level was before 1980. It could have been *much* smaller before changing to the numbers shown in the graph. I just don't believe Wikipedia is the best place for definitive knowedge of such a deeply scientific subject as this. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12/Wickapoodia (my spelling) In a message dated 9/7/2007 4:35:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone who does not believe that R12 is bad for the ozone layer needs to read this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion Tom and all, People who write for Wikipedia are not authenticated in any way! You can speak to any topic and if reading, all info must be taken with a grain of salt I can tell you that one major volcanic eruption causes more ozone depletion than all the controlled refrigerants EVER MADE! You don't have to believe that and I don't have to prove it. Further, the burping and farting of cows creates more ozone disruption each year than all of the controlled refrigerants ever released. Believe it or don't! So how do we ban volcanoes? Do we bag all our cows and.or keep them in a controlled environment? I have been in the air conditioning field for more than 50 years and still find it incredible that our governments acted so quickly at the Montreal Protocol meetings to ban R12 (and others) production. Much to my dismay, I ran out of R12 this year. Maybe I can bag some cow methane! By the way, I do read wikipedia and find the info mostly believable. Most of the writers have some clue as to what they are talking about (somewhat like this forum), but be careful what you assimilate. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.8/993 - Release Date: 9/6/2007 3:18 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
Now that's quite funny saying that Sprinter is the German word for box! At least the nose has some curvature to it. We hauled the boat behind it for the first time the other day, and it did well. It isn't the powerhouse that the Cummins was, but that's fine with me. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 1.6Kmi, The Box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
Kevin Kraly wrote: 2006 Sprinter PV 1.6Kmi, The Box IIRC, The Box was the actual name of a 1970's kit car. It was shaped like a shoe box with a wedge shaped nose, open wheels, four wheel steering via a foot operated handlebar (hydraulic), and hand throttle. I can't remember what powered it. Construction was fiberglass over balsa. The windshield served as the only door, lifted up like a hatchback. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
Hello All, I've been following the recent 2.5 threads with some interest. My '90 2.5 has some been very sluggish lately. Limp mode is a bit overstated but I would say I'm not getting any help from the turbo. Mileage on the car is still around 29 MPG. I must also note that I believe I have a head gasket issue. Usual signs of oil in rad and anti-freeze usage. I have been somewhat successfully fighting this issue for the last 40,000 miles with Irontite. The car idles horrendously loud and shaky. Sounds like a big pickup truck. Engine sounds fine after about 900 rpm. I've done a diesel purge with no noticeable improvement. I'm sure mine has all the computer controlled stuff that the later year models have and was getting lost during the discussion on what all the vacuum valves at the air cleaner do. Is there is simple diagnostic check to see if the sensors which activate the turbo are working. The valve which activates the flap on the turbo (wastegate?) holds vacuum and activates the flap.Any suggestions on any of these issues would be of great help. I'm hesitant of going to the expense of fixing the head gasket while the car still gets me around fairly well. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
Ralph W wrote: Hello All, I've been following the recent 2.5 threads with some interest. My '90 2.5 has some been very sluggish lately. Limp mode is a bit overstated but I would say I'm not getting any help from the turbo. Mileage on the car is still around 29 MPG. I must also note that I believe I have a head gasket issue. Usual signs of oil in rad and anti-freeze usage. I have been somewhat successfully fighting this issue for the last 40,000 miles with Irontite. The car idles horrendously loud and shaky. Sounds like a big pickup truck. Engine sounds fine after about 900 rpm. I've done a diesel purge with no noticeable improvement. I'm sure mine has all the computer controlled stuff that the later year models have and was getting lost during the discussion on what all the vacuum valves at the air cleaner do. Is there is simple diagnostic check to see if the sensors which activate the turbo are working. The valve which activates the flap on the turbo (wastegate?) holds vacuum and activates the fla p.Any suggesti ons on any of these i There is NO sensor that activates the turbo. The turbo works all the time. The higher the engine rpm, the more boost. Boost alone achieves NOTHING. There must also be fuel enrichment. Most complaints of poor turbo function turn out to be poor/no fuel enrichment. The turbo has NO effect on idle. With your engine, there is a turbo wastegate that is opened if the emissions system fails or if the boost exceeds the limits. When were the fuel and filters changed? Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FS 82 380 SEL 29k Miles, $7k, Des Moines
Just got this from a friend, who knows I'm a Benz guy. Sounds like a good deal for someone. No affiliation, no knowledge, haven't seen the car. Did talk to the guy briefly and it sounds like the real deal, but since its not a diesel, I'll pass. Located in West Des Moines, Iowa. 1982 Buttercream-color MB 380 SEL 4-door 29,600 miles Spent much of its time in Florida Described to be in mint condition Asking price $7,000. John Judi Pete 515/224-9992 Dan Weeks Freelance Writer and Photographer 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
Replace the head gasket (and head if necessary as it may be cracked) or soon you will need to replace the engine. You are both getting coolant into the engine and sharing compression between a couple cylinders -- the rough idle is a combination of low compression knock and flame suppresion from the coolant (white smoke on starts, right?). The combination of water and low compression is causing large amounts of carbon to accumulate in the pre-chambers and on the piston crowns and cylinder head adjacent to the pre-chamber, this interferes with proper combustion too. You also have a vacuum transducer controlled waste gate -- check that one, and the EGR transducer as well, since if either is not working, the boost will be shut off. Don't wait to fix the head, glycol in the oil does nasty things to the rest of the engine. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I've been following the recent 2.5 threads. I must also note that I believe I have a head gasket issue. Usual signs of oil in rad and anti-freeze usage. The car idles horrendously loud and shaky. Hi, All and Ralph W. When my '87 2.5D blew the head gasket, it was that The car idles horrendously loud and shaky on 4 cylinders, though it ran well on the highway and ran about 5-7 degrees warmer and used a little antifreeze. The head was cleaned and skimmed 0.007, new valve guide and valves gaskets, ( All hail Rusty!) etc.etc. Now 0-60mph is right on the money. measured 0-100kph in the 12 to 13 secs range. 5 tries both ways. It now idles with that well bred oily mutter of a fine diesel machine. Total cost of parts and head skimming (did my own guides and seats) was less than $400 and that included 1 lifter, oil and filter, belt etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA 85 300TD 87 190DT BENT! 89 260E - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
No matter what anybody says people are, deep down, inherently greedy horrible little bastards. How some people manage to rise above it and collaborate on anything is one of the amazing mysteries of life. Jeremy Clarkson did a special where he came to America and drove a bunch of American vehicles and commented on how horrible they are. He especially made fun of the no substitute for cubes American ethic. TV is the real enemy, people get seated in front of that idiot box and I swear it literally sucks their brains out through their eyes. It convinces them that everybody needs perfect teeth, then of course they need airbags in their car to protect their teeth. Then polishes to clean the teeth, better clothes to compliment the teeth and of course a world of food to chew with the teeth. Can't afford perfect teeth? Well then theres a world of drugs to make you forget how ugly you are... Etc. The irony is when you remember I work in the television industry... -Curt Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 12:35:52 +0930 From: Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Nobody wants to be the 'boy who cried wolf' but I guess we can wait till we have conclusive proof that we are damaging the environment and then perhaps think about ways we could possibly perhaps maybe reduce emissions by .0008%. Perhaps instead of buying that 7 liter SUV to ferry the kids to soccer, we'll opt for the 6.8 liter and get that warm fussy feeling that we have personally saved the planet from becoming a hot house. The question is, will it hurt us to be more efficient in our use of energy and will it hurt us to think about stuff apart from our own personal comfort levels. I know it does hurt some. - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
But the in-duh-vidual has proven again and again that he will do whatever television tells him to do. That of course doesn't cover everybody but a real big percentage. The car makers get more profit on a big SUV so what do you think they tell television to tell people to buy? Then people get this dumb sense that they're safer in an SUV. The reality is they'd be safer if we had laws here that are actually enforced. Yesterday I passed a cop sitting on the side of the road at 65mph in a 55mph zone. He never even blinked. Given their own direction people would choose to smoke. Many of them will do it in a car with the windows rolled up and a little kid in the back seat. Then they'll be TOTALLY confounded when the kid has asthema or another breathing problem. Must be the schools! There is ZERO personal accountablity in the world today. -Curt Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 23:04:26 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed heck no, if you have a need for a big vehicle for hauling, then by all means, have it. Just to drive around in is stupid. Everyone should be more efficient, but I do not think they should be forced to. Its up to the individual. - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 18:53:04 +0930 Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is the German word for Box?) There are several, with different shades of meaning: die Schachtel box, package der Kasten box, chest, bin, hutch showcase die Kiste box, case, chest, crate das Behältnis box, container, bin, receptacle (or without the umlaut, das Behaeltnis) Note that der = masculine die = feminine das = neuter Note also that the idiom die alte Kiste means jalopy. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
Peter wrote:glycol in the oil does nasty things to the rest of the engine. Peter is absolutely correct about the above and his other comments. The oil in your engine is very diluted by now unless you are changing the oil frequently. The water in the oil will accelerate the corrosion occuring in the crankcase also - If you cannot repair the head gasket soon, change the oil/filter and stop driving it.Damage will continue but not as fast as if you were driving it. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues Replace the head gasket (and head if necessary as it may be cracked) or soon you will need to replace the engine. You are both getting coolant into the engine and sharing compression between a couple cylinders -- the rough idle is a combination of low compression knock and flame suppresion from the coolant (white smoke on starts, right?). The combination of water and low compression is causing large amounts of carbon to accumulate in the pre-chambers and on the piston crowns and cylinder head adjacent to the pre-chamber, this interferes with proper combustion too. You also have a vacuum transducer controlled waste gate -- check that one, and the EGR transducer as well, since if either is not working, the boost will be shut off. Don't wait to fix the head, glycol in the oil does nasty things to the rest of the engine. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.9/994 - Release Date: 9/7/2007 4:40 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 07:55:16 -0500 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no such thing as a buyers agent. And if you don't believe this then follow the cash. All realtors get paid out of the house sale. In other words, all realtors get paid by the seller. Not so. If the buyer doesn't put the money down, there is no sale and no realtor getting paid by the seller, which means the buyer is the one who is really funding the transaction. In addition, there is nothing to preclude you from offering your own incentive to have your realtor on your side. Hence, a buyers agent. Also, states have started passing statute law creating buyer's agency. There are even a Real Estate BUYER'S AGENT Council and a National Association of Exclusive Buyer Agents. See: http://homebuying.about.com/od/buyingahome/qt/071907-buyagt.htm http://homebuying.about.com/library/glossary/bldef5.htm?iam=metaresultsterms=buyer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyer's_agent http://www.rebac.net/Content.aspx?PageName=whyuseABR.htm The Real Estate BUYER'S AGENT Council, REBAC, was founded in 1988 to promote superior buyer representation skills and services. An affiliate of the National Association of REALTORS since 1996, REBAC's membership now numbers well over 40,000 and is the worlds largest organization of real estate professionals concentrating on buyer representation. Members who meet all course and professional experiential requirements are awarded the ABR (Accredited Buyers Representative) and/or ABRMsm (Accredited Buyers Representative Manager) designation(s). Both are the only designations of their type recognized by NAR. The ABR designation is geared towards agents who wish to enhance their buyer representation skills, and provides proof to prospective buyer-clients of their proficiency at servicing the special needs of buyers. The ABRMsm designation, on the other hand, is intended for owners, brokers and managers who have or intend to incorporate buyer representation into their company's service offerings. http://www.buyersagent.net/ http://www.buyer-agent.net/ http://www.forbuyers.com/ http://www.naeba.org/ National Association of Exclusive Buyer Agents http://www.ourfamilyplace.com/homebuyer/buyeragent.html http://money.howstuffworks.com/house-buying11.htm and many, many more on: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=buyer%27s+agentbtnG=Google+Search and http://www.goodsearch.com/Search.aspx?Keywords=buyer's+agent Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is ZERO personal accountability in the world today. -Curt Amen to that!! With the possible exceptions of the people on this list and a few saints. Fred Moir Lynn MA Dieselitis Maximus - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
There is ZERO personal accountability in the world today. With the possible exceptions of the people on this list... Whatchew mean, Willis? There's no accounting for me at all! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is ZERO personal accountability in the world today. With the possible exceptions of the people on this list... Whatchew mean, Willis? There's no accounting for me at all! -- Jim As you well know, James, you are in both categories! Fred Moir Lynn MA Dis, dat 'n d'udder. Diesel Rules! - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Must be new car season...
and what about asia? On 9/7/07, tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I, too, am thinking of buying something modern. The problem is the sorts of cars I like barely exist. Basically I only want a stick and I'm a snob, so no Pontiacs. No more than $15k, and a warranty might be nice. I'm boring and like four-doors and station wagons. Anyone have any recommendations for something worthwhile and not impossible to find with a stick? I'm not sure I want another VW. The local Saab dealer had a C240 on their outdated website. It is long gone but the guy talked me into driving an '05 Saab 9-3 2.0L since I was already there. It was actually quite comfortable and nice to drive on the four-mile test route. GM-spec interior materials were pretty disappointing. Guy sounds desperate to move it but buying a modern Opel, er, I mean Saab does not sound like a good idea. Anyone know anything about the Volvo S60? C-Classes are a little expensive and hard to find. Tom, Leaning toward the dark side. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
I love this post!! :-) hee hee Ed 300E On 08/09/2007, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No matter what anybody says people are, deep down, inherently greedy horrible little bastards. How some people manage to rise above it and collaborate on anything is one of the amazing mysteries of life. Jeremy Clarkson did a special where he came to America and drove a bunch of American vehicles and commented on how horrible they are. He especially made fun of the no substitute for cubes American ethic. TV is the real enemy, people get seated in front of that idiot box and I swear it literally sucks their brains out through their eyes. It convinces them that everybody needs perfect teeth, then of course they need airbags in their car to protect their teeth. Then polishes to clean the teeth, better clothes to compliment the teeth and of course a world of food to chew with the teeth. Can't afford perfect teeth? Well then theres a world of drugs to make you forget how ugly you are... Etc. The irony is when you remember I work in the television industry... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
Frederick Moir wrote: Now 0-60mph is right on the money. measured 0-100kph in the 12 to 13 secs range. 5 tries both ways. It now idles with that well bred oily mutter of a fine diesel machine. And that is one reason why, considering the rarity of the car, it must be repaired or transplanted into a body donor. Worst case scenario, give it to Berryman to drag up to NY. Speaking of whom, isn't he back from last year's storm season yet? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
Thanks guys. A little dose of reality from the group is helpful some times. I've had my head in the sand for a while on this head gasket thing. I have had coolant loss and white smoke at idle but the Irontite seems to have stopped that temporarily. My wife won't drive the car due to the loud idle and it's even getting to me. I guess it's time for a talk with the Indy. As far as the lack of performance goes, I've run a fair bit of fuel through the vehicle recently so I think it's good. The fuel filter was changed about 15k ago (two years) when I did have a fuel issue. I guess a change is easy enough to do as I have a filter handy. Can the large filter have issues even when the clear one is clean? You also have a vacuum transducer controlled waste gate -- check that one, and the EGR transducer as well, since if either is not working, the boost will be shut off. How does one check these transducers? Are you referring to the vacuum actuators on the Turbo or the ones near the air cleaner? Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
And that is the premise and major point of Al Gore's recent book - The Assault on Reason. On 9/8/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TV is the real enemy, people get seated in front of that idiot box and I swear it literally sucks their brains out through their eyes. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers
the point is the agent gets paid out of the proceeds of the sale. If the sale does not close, he doesn't get paid. So the agent is really in a bit of a conflict of interest position, he wants the deal to close which can be in conflict with protecting the interests of the buyer OR the seller, depending. That's why you need a real-estate attorney that YOU hire if you really want someone representing YOUR interests in the transaction. Allan Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 07:55:16 -0500 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no such thing as a buyers agent. And if you don't believe this then follow the cash. All realtors get paid out of the house sale. In other words, all realtors get paid by the seller. Not so. If the buyer doesn't put the money down, there is no sale and no realtor getting paid by the seller, which means the buyer is the one who is really funding the transaction. In addition, there is nothing to preclude you from offering your own incentive to have your realtor on your side. Hence, a buyers agent. Also, states have started passing statute law creating buyer's agency. There are even a Real Estate BUYER'S AGENT Council and a National Association of Exclusive Buyer Agents. See: http://homebuying.about.com/od/buyingahome/qt/071907-buyagt.htm http://homebuying.about.com/library/glossary/bldef5.htm?iam=metaresultsterms=buyer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyer's_agent http://www.rebac.net/Content.aspx?PageName=whyuseABR.htm The Real Estate BUYER'S AGENT Council, REBAC, was founded in 1988 to promote superior buyer representation skills and services. An affiliate of the National Association of REALTORS since 1996, REBAC's membership now numbers well over 40,000 and is the worlds largest organization of real estate professionals concentrating on buyer representation. Members who meet all course and professional experiential requirements are awarded the ABR (Accredited Buyers Representative) and/or ABRMsm (Accredited Buyers Representative Manager) designation(s). Both are the only designations of their type recognized by NAR. The ABR designation is geared towards agents who wish to enhance their buyer representation skills, and provides proof to prospective buyer-clients of their proficiency at servicing the special needs of buyers. The ABRMsm designation, on the other hand, is intended for owners, brokers and managers who have or intend to incorporate buyer representation into their company's service offerings. http://www.buyersagent.net/ http://www.buyer-agent.net/ http://www.forbuyers.com/ http://www.naeba.org/ National Association of Exclusive Buyer Agents http://www.ourfamilyplace.com/homebuyer/buyeragent.html http://money.howstuffworks.com/house-buying11.htm and many, many more on: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=buyer%27s+agentbtnG=Google+Search and http://www.goodsearch.com/Search.aspx?Keywords=buyer's+agent Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
Benzaholics. Did no one get my double entendre? It now idles with that well bred oily mutter of a fine diesel machine. Fred Moir Lynn MA 300TD 190DT 260E Hint, German for mother is...? - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
Well, first of all, you seem to have a basketcase there. You are going to have to deal with the head gasket issue if you plan on keeping the car. Next, if you have a rough idle, you probably have some bad delivery valves. You will want to loosen each injector line one at at a time to see which one is not firing. That engine should be VERY quiet once its warmed up. As for checking the sensors, you will need to read thru the 178 or so page EDS diagnostic to figure that out. Ralph W wrote: Hello All, I've been following the recent 2.5 threads with some interest. My '90 2.5 has some been very sluggish lately. Limp mode is a bit overstated but I would say I'm not getting any help from the turbo. Mileage on the car is still around 29 MPG. I must also note that I believe I have a head gasket issue. Usual signs of oil in rad and anti-freeze usage. I have been somewhat successfully fighting this issue for the last 40,000 miles with Irontite. The car idles horrendously loud and shaky. Sounds like a big pickup truck. Engine sounds fine after about 900 rpm. I've done a diesel purge with no noticeable improvement. I'm sure mine has all the computer controlled stuff that the later year models have and was getting lost during the discussion on what all the vacuum valves at the air cleaner do. Is there is simple diagnostic check to see if the sensors which activate the turbo are working. The valve which activates the flap on the turbo (wastegate?) holds vacuum and activates the fla p.Any suggestions on any of these issues would be of great help. I'm hesitant of going to the expense of fixing the head gasket while the car still gets me around fairly well. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
yea, all my other info assumed the problem not coming from the head. If it has been going on a while and really is bad, your head is most likely your problem Peter Frederick wrote: Replace the head gasket (and head if necessary as it may be cracked) or soon you will need to replace the engine. You are both getting coolant into the engine and sharing compression between a couple cylinders -- the rough idle is a combination of low compression knock and flame suppresion from the coolant (white smoke on starts, right?). The combination of water and low compression is causing large amounts of carbon to accumulate in the pre-chambers and on the piston crowns and cylinder head adjacent to the pre-chamber, this interferes with proper combustion too. You also have a vacuum transducer controlled waste gate -- check that one, and the EGR transducer as well, since if either is not working, the boost will be shut off. Don't wait to fix the head, glycol in the oil does nasty things to the rest of the engine. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering box set screw for doing alignments
Thanks for your helpful response, lookng forward to my next chance to use it. Cheers Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you recieved this e-mail in error or would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. __ I believe that the alignment of the wheels can be perfect, with regard to camber, castor, and toe in. Yet, the steering wheel can still be ANYWHERE, if it is not properly centered to start with. Yes, there is a 60 degree cone for the centering bolt to register into. How deep the bolt goes into the steering box I cannot tell you as I have never seen a factory bolt. I suppose a pointed bolt would lock the steering, even if it missed the designated hole! To see if you are close, I would take note of the least amount of angle the steering wheel is at when the turn signals canceled. If it was about the same in each direction, I would consider the steering shaft centered. Finally, there should be a hashmark on the end of the steering shaft that would line up with a similar mark on the steering wheel. You would have to remove the nut to see the wheel marking. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ _ [1]Can you find the hidden words? Take a break and play Seekadoo! References 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2728??PS=47575 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? killer R12
with 12 volts applied they should hold vacuum at the vacuum port with the out port plugged OK Don wrote: And that is the premise and major point of Al Gore's recent book - The Assault on Reason. On 9/8/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TV is the real enemy, people get seated in front of that idiot box and I swear it literally sucks their brains out through their eyes. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 11:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benzaholics. Did no one get my double entendre? It now idles with that well bred oily mutter of a fine diesel machine. Hint, German for mother is...? Aaaaggghh! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:54:38 -0400 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the point is the agent gets paid out of the proceeds of the sale. If the sale does not close, he doesn't get paid. So the agent is really in a bit of a conflict of interest position, he wants the deal to close which can be in conflict with protecting the interests of the buyer OR the seller, depending. That's why you need a real-estate attorney that YOU hire if you really want someone representing YOUR interests in the transaction. Yes, good point. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood Pads
No heat shield is required and Rusty's standard on is fine. Carefull gluing on use ample 3m spray glue Tom 1979 240D - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 1:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] Hood Pads Howdy - I need a hood pad for the '78 240D and noticed Rusty sells one with, and one without a heatshield. Living in Va I'm not sure I need the heatshield. While I don't mind extra protection, if the heatshield is only needed when traversing Africa in high summer, it might be a waste to put it on mine. But, if it will make the AC work easier I'll go for it - Comments? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood Pads
heat shield is for the turbo, since it matters not to the hoodpad if it is going into any w123. If you have the turbo, you want the heatsheild. On 7 Sep 2007, at 10:07, LarryT wrote: Howdy - I need a hood pad for the '78 240D and noticed Rusty sells one with, and one without a heatshield. Living in Va I'm not sure I need the heatshield. While I don't mind extra protection, if the heatshield is only needed when traversing Africa in high summer, it might be a waste to put it on mine. But, if it will make the AC work easier I'll go for it - Comments? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
once its warmed up. As for checking the sensors, you will need to read thru the 178 or so page EDS diagnostic to figure that out. Kaleb, I was hoping you'd have that all figured out by now. It has been a few days since that thread. What have you been doing? ;) Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers now real estate transactions
After the cluster that was our first home purchase, we have always engaged the services of a real estate attorney in every real estate transaction we have conducted. This is whether we're buying or selling, using an agent or working on our own. The fees are a pittance compared to the total cost, and just the presence of an attorney in the transaction seems to keep things more on the up-and-up, not to mention the ability of an attorney to resolve what might be otherwise dealbreaking situations. As for agents, well, a friend of mine is an agent in the Reno area that deals in higher end homes. I just spoke with her last week and she was telling me about how a lot of agents are trying to gift listings to others. That is, they've had a listing for so long they can't move it, so they gift it to a fellow agent. This is a way to screw someone, as according to her she's in to a $1M sale at least $5k right out the door for the costs she incurs to begin the marketing. Because of this and the crappy real estate market (especially in the higher end properties) she has been turning down listings of late when she feels the sellers have unrealistic expectations of what the property is worth, or that the market won't support the value of the property. Dan --- Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:54:38 -0400 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the point is the agent gets paid out of the proceeds of the sale. If the sale does not close, he doesn't get paid. So the agent is really in a bit of a conflict of interest position, he wants the deal to close which can be in conflict with protecting the interests of the buyer OR the seller, depending. That's why you need a real-estate attorney that YOU hire if you really want someone representing YOUR interests in the transaction. Yes, good point. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood Pads
Make sure you use the high temp stuff, not the regular! I think the high temp is product 8090, not all stores have it. If you use the regular adhesive, it will fall off in a couple months. You should be able to get almost two pads glued in with one can, a light mist completely covering the metal and the pad are quite enough -- I did mine in three passes, very light coats. You will not see it on the pad, it's open cell foam and the adhesive will vanish. Just spray enough that it will stick to your hand. Allow to dry for a minute or two, until it's quite tacky, and stick on. Pre-position the pad and hold top or bottom in place while doing the other half works best. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood Pads
It's not high temp stuff, it's heavy duty stuff. 8089 is the regular adhesive, and 8090 is the heavy duty. Dan --- Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make sure you use the high temp stuff, not the regular! I think the high temp is product 8090, not all stores have it. If you use the regular adhesive, it will fall off in a couple months. You should be able to get almost two pads glued in with one can, a light mist completely covering the metal and the pad are quite enough -- I did mine in three passes, very light coats. You will not see it on the pad, it's open cell foam and the adhesive will vanish. Just spray enough that it will stick to your hand. Allow to dry for a minute or two, until it's quite tacky, and stick on. Pre-position the pad and hold top or bottom in place while doing the other half works best. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood Pads
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 13:34:59 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not high temp stuff, it's heavy duty stuff. 8089 is the regular adhesive, and 8090 is the heavy duty. I've heard of using Liquid Nails to hold the hood pad on (on this list, in fact ...). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5DT Idle and turbo issues
Well I do have it figured out pretty much, but I doubt my problem is the same as yours. You will still have to pull the codes. On mine I am going to have to replace the IP, the rack sensor is bad. Ralph W wrote: once its warmed up. As for checking the sensors, you will need to read thru the 178 or so page EDS diagnostic to figure that out. Kaleb, I was hoping you'd have that all figured out by now. It has been a few days since that thread. What have you been doing? ;) Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (parts car) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers now real estate transactions
In OK, we are one of the few states left that are abstract states, meaning the they have to pull the abstract up to day which is done my an attorney. You get title insurance from that attorney which protects you if something fishy goes on. Besides that, if you have a good realtor they will make sure you do not get screwed on anything else. Not all are looking out for their buyer (or seller), but the good ones do. LWB250 wrote: After the cluster that was our first home purchase, we have always engaged the services of a real estate attorney in every real estate transaction we have conducted. This is whether we're buying or selling, using an agent or working on our own. The fees are a pittance compared to the total cost, and just the presence of an attorney in the transaction seems to keep things more on the up-and-up, not to mention the ability of an attorney to resolve what might be otherwise dealbreaking situations. As for agents, well, a friend of mine is an agent in the Reno area that deals in higher end homes. I just spoke with her last week and she was telling me about how a lot of agents are trying to gift listings to others. That is, they've had a listing for so long they can't move it, so they gift it to a fellow agent. This is a way to screw someone, as according to her she's in to a $1M sale at least $5k right out the door for the costs she incurs to begin the marketing. Because of this and the crappy real estate market (especially in the higher end properties) she has been turning down listings of late when she feels the sellers have unrealistic expectations of what the property is worth, or that the market won't support the value of the property. Dan --- Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:54:38 -0400 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the point is the agent gets paid out of the proceeds of the sale. If the sale does not close, he doesn't get paid. So the agent is really in a bit of a conflict of interest position, he wants the deal to close which can be in conflict with protecting the interests of the buyer OR the seller, depending. That's why you need a real-estate attorney that YOU hire if you really want someone representing YOUR interests in the transaction. Yes, good point. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood Pads
Liquid Nails is the way to go. It's cheap and gives time to place the pad. DWS - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood Pads On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 13:34:59 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not high temp stuff, it's heavy duty stuff. 8089 is the regular adhesive, and 8090 is the heavy duty. I've heard of using Liquid Nails to hold the hood pad on (on this list, in fact ...). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers
Sat, 08 Sep 2007 07:02:15 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Subject: Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers Allan Streib wrote: When we sold our first house with a realtor we saw him when we signed the listing agreement and not again until he stopped by at the closing to pick up his check. He did nothing that I could tell to market the house beyond entering it into the MLS, which is really the only thing you can't do as a FSBO. Mitch wrote There are realtors like that. I have three answers: 1) If that's good enough, there are services which charge you a flat fee ($150-500) to put your listing on MLS. Unfortunately, the two in my area charge $300-400 PLUS a percentage of the final deal. They do provide you with signs, brochure tube, and a certain number of printed brochures. It's wanting a commission for admittedly doing no work that kills the deal for me. 2) Interview three listing agents, and check their references. Not 100%, but it helps. 3) Never, ever, sign a listing over 90 days. Let them know that if you think they are doing their job, you will renew until sold. Getting locked in with a loser for 90 days is plenty bad enough, 180 days will leave you tearing your hair out. Mitch. Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] sez this: A realtor at mininum knows the way through the process and what it takes to make it go at every point. That can be worth a lot. They also can be the prospective buyer's eyes and ears searching, looking, and listening for the right property to come on the marker. That can also be worth a lot. For sellers, they know or should know the market. That is also worth a lot. There are good hard working ones, lazy ones, incompetent ones, crooked ones, and good lucky ones. Most are trying to make a living without getting their hands dirty or slaving away all day every day at some drone job. They live by their wits. Some do very well indeed; some get by and that's about all. The best ones stick with it and prosper in almost all cases. The first homestead house I bought I made a handshake deal with the owner; no realtor was involved, only two lawyers who each and collectively did almost nothing. There was no title insurance policy, no closing and no settling of accounts. When I called one of the lawyers to ask about my excess earnest money, he feigned ignorance. It cost me about $1,000 to learn in that case. I later got a a realtor to find and help me buy a rent house. We searched for several months before finding the right location, price, and terms. She and I looked at OMG how many houses. Her rate of pay was sub-minimum wage on that deal. When I sold the first homestead house, I listed it with that same realtor, who had a prospect waiting in the wings to buy the house I wanted to sell. It took maybe a week to make a deal. Her rate of pay was very high on that deal. The second homestead house was searched for like the rent house. We wanted features, space, and most important a good assumable note. Interest rates on home mortgages were about 15% then. We earlier actually applied for a mortgage that would have been 17% on the perfect house, which mercifully fell through. We would have had to get paper routes to help pay that note. Work about 12-14 hr/day. How long would that have lasted? Dunno. That owner did not really want to sell, but only wanted to find out what people would pay for the house. On the second homestead house, our first offer was shot down by a better (on its face) offer, which, unbeknownst to us, was not real, but only a way to get occupancy of the house by a mob of people coming from another state where there was a worse recession. Six months later the owner, who did not have a high reading on the clue meter, figured out what was going on, and kicked out the occupants, who were only renting. The realtor was on the phone soon, telling me that house was back on the market. This time we got it and its beautiful 10.5% assumable mortgage. The realtor's rate of pay was OK but not outstanding on that deal. We saved roughly $4.8K a year in interest because we assumed the existing note instead of making a new one. For a while I had two house notes and a bridge note. I had a super banker too. I still own that house, having paid it off in the 1990's. I learned enough to help my son through a buying experience in the late 1990's and saved about $5K for him without considering how much the sellers left lying on the table - which a good realtor could have got for them. But their heads (actually, the wife's head; the poor husband was big time henpecked) were too hard to see if they could be helped by a realtor. Dealing with a good realtor has undoubtedly saved me tens of thousands of dollars over the years. Dealing with a bad one? You don't want to go there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts
Re: [MBZ] Hood Pads
Liquid nails is both overkill and a HUGE PITA to clean up next time. The original wasn't held up by very much adhesive at all -- just use the heavy duty/high temperature 3M 8090 and it will stick forever. Mine is going on three years now, looks like the day I stuck it up there. Took me about four hours to scrape all the crap off from the previous if some is good an inch or two is much better installation. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] holy cow
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-Mercedes-Frankenstein-Car-1986-Buick-Electra-chassis-and-motor_W0QQitemZ130151802641QQihZ003QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] random thoughts of a nerd
soon it will be 9/8/7 6:54:32 -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Official IowaQ Announcement
http://don.homelinux.net/~don/IowaQ.pdf RSVPs encouraged but not required. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Official IowaQ Announcement
And the address for the BBQ is, so us nerds can find it with our GPS's? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 6:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Banned List Subject: [MBZ] Official IowaQ Announcement http://don.homelinux.net/~don/IowaQ.pdf RSVPs encouraged but not required. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] random thoughts of a nerd
At 6:11 PM -0500 9/8/07, Luther wrote: soon it will be 9/8/7 6:54:32 I was thinking that this morning... -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood Pads
I glued my replacement hood pad on with Gorilla Glue. Still holding great almost 4 years later. Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Make sure you use the high temp stuff, not the regular! I think the high temp is product 8090, not all stores have it. If you use the regular adhesive, it will fall off in a couple months. You should be able to get almost two pads glued in with one can, a light mist completely covering the metal and the pad are quite enough -- I did mine in three passes, very light coats. You will not see it on the pad, it's open cell foam and the adhesive will vanish. Just spray enough that it will stick to your hand. Allow to dry for a minute or two, until it's quite tacky, and stick on. Pre-position the pad and hold top or bottom in place while doing the other half works best. Peter -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Official IowaQ Announcement
507 South Oak Street Jefferson IA Why did I use my normal email address rather than GMail, you might ask? Because on busy days I do a select all / delete on GMail after a quick scan of the subject lines. Didn't want to miss anything Q-related. On 9/8/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the address for the BBQ is, so us nerds can find it with our GPS's? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 6:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Banned List Subject: [MBZ] Official IowaQ Announcement http://don.homelinux.net/~don/IowaQ.pdf RSVPs encouraged but not required. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers now real estate transactions
Sort of. Essentially, the current listing agent has already thrown in the towel and written off their expenses, knowing full well and good that the seller is either being unreasonable or has unrealistic expectation of their home's value in the current market. That means you take the listing, toss your $$ into it, with the likelihood of success being nearly nil. If you're really hungry or just want to have a boatload of high profile listings (remember, this is a very competitive business and visibility is important) you might take it. This is not something people who expect to work together again in the future would do to each other. It's more like handing a bag full of crap that looks really nice on the outside to a competitor and hoping you're not there when they open it. She says that she has walked from a number of listings of late, mainly because the sellers refused to acknowledge the market and won't move their price into a realistic range based on what (little) is selling. She also said their have been some potential sellers she has told that they should not sell unless they are willing to take a hit. Dan --- Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would seem that the one that would be screwed would be the agent who is giving the listing away, so one, in effect, is screwing one's self. Or am I misunderstanding things? Craig Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Worst 50 Cars
Go to the CNN home page and look for the link in their story links for the Time Magazine article on the 50 worst cars. It's a real hoot. Dan Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? car killer Jeremy Clarkson
A good example of this is the UN (and perhaps it's predecessor the league of nations), to set it up is perhaps one of the greatest acts of humanity but it's actual execution shows us what we are really like. Far as that pompous git goes, that is the problem with critics. They are life's underachievers and take their frustration out on those who do achieve, even if those achievements are short of the mark. I had a quick look at wikipedia about him and can't see anything that would lead me to think that he has any qualifications to talk about cars. However at the end of the day he is just an entertainer who gets people excited by his stupid remarks. Personally I don't bother watching anything he does because I know it is all crap and what is the point of watching a show about cars I have little or no hope of owning. I would actually like to see a TV show about maintenance, buying tips, negotiating buying a car, pitfalls of used cars, etc but then again would people watch something like that? No, they wanna see idiots going fast in exotic super cars. Curt Raymond wrote: No matter what anybody says people are, deep down, inherently greedy horrible little bastards. How some people manage to rise above it and collaborate on anything is one of the amazing mysteries of life. Jeremy Clarkson did a special where he came to America and drove a bunch of American vehicles and commented on how horrible they are. He especially made fun of the no substitute for cubes American ethic. TV is the real enemy, people get seated in front of that idiot box and I swear it literally sucks their brains out through their eyes. It convinces them that everybody needs perfect teeth, then of course they need airbags in their car to protect their teeth. Then polishes to clean the teeth, better clothes to compliment the teeth and of course a world of food to chew with the teeth. Can't afford perfect teeth? Well then theres a world of drugs to make you forget how ugly you are... Etc. The irony is when you remember I work in the television industry... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? car killer Jeremy Clarkson
Hendrik wrote: Personally I don't bother watching anything he does because I know it is all crap and what is the point of watching a show about cars I have little or no hope of owning. I don't watch it for the exotic super cars (although some I do watch)... I watch it for the skits where the three hosts have a competition. The Porsche challenge is great stuff. :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL
Window adjustment. (And yes, I unplugged the ignition module for the job.) I used Shoe Goo to bolster the plastic coating on the bottom window stop that was tearing off. That should help keep it quiet and from scratching the paint which could allow rust to start in the door. I got the window adjusted again so that it doesn't tear up the weatherstrip. As before, it's a loose fit and I imagine that there will be plenty of wind leaks. Oh well. When I lifted the soft top while making the window adjustments I noticed a fair amount of rust getting started under the soft top cover and on the body channel for its seal. I wire-brushed it all off and painted over it with black paint. That should stop it, or at least slow it down considerably. The seal was torn in one place, I used weatherstrip cement to glue it back together. The combined trunk/horse collar hinge was stiff, so I sprayed a bunch of PB Blaster and oil into there. I made quite a mess, but you just can't quite get at the hinge. It's now looser than it was, but not yet what it should be. Rust! I pulled up the trunk seal above the left taillight and found that the channel was holed. I pulled the taillight and the interior trim and hit everything with a wire brush. The corner above the light is rotted away, the rest was only surface rust. I painted the surface rusted areas, including the cover for the vacuum trunk lock. They'll all be fine, but what to do about the missing metal... I really should weld it up, but that's not a small job! And it is a bit risky, too. Let us not mention that the welder is trapped inside the garage right now, I'm not sure the cables could reach far enough to do the job. Contemplating the welding-ness of it all, I pulled the other taillight and found a bit of rust starting there too, but nothing too bad yet. I wire-brushed it off and painted over it. I had to remove the chrome trim strip that the trunk knob pokes through in order to finish brushing off the rust on the bad side. (And to do that requires that the trunk latch be removed. Everything cascades, it seems.) Since I was in the area I removed the broken battery cover strap and welded it back together. At least that was easy! I think I can do some welding to restore the holed channel to watertightness. I'll probably not attempt to do more on the inside where the material is eaten away. I don't think it is significant, except cosmetically. I freed up my afternoon, backed the car up to the garage, and had at it! I welded some narrow strips of heavy-gauge sheet metal over the holes, and then ground them to more-or-less conform to the profile it should have. (On the outside, at least.) Weld and grind, weld and grind. Repeat until done. It took a couple of hours to put back what was at most a couple of square inches of metal. Water-soaked towels draped over the entire area contained the welding spatter, and kept the heat from getting into the paint at the trunk opening. I did a lot of scraping and poking around to ensure there weren't additional holes coming through. I found a couple, in fact, which I welded over and ground down. I then painted the outside with black spray paint. I scraped out the rust flakes that were 'inside' using my finger, compressed air, and a magnet. I then saturated this inside area with the spray paint, shooting into the wall interior through the holes that shouldn't be there. I hope this will cut down on the rust's progress. After a late lunch I put a color coat on the outside where it needed it and reassembled everything. That took a long time. I glued the trunk seal back in place with a bead of weatherstrip cement. I replaced a couple of dead lamps while I was there and patched the reverse lamp lens that had a piece out of it. What I did was to take a ruined taillight assembly and knock out a few chunks of the clear, which I then ground roughly to shape and glued in place with cyanoacrylate glue. I then ground the bottom edge flat and potted it in Shoe Goo where it meets the gasket. While it's very obvious that this has been patched, if you're not looking for it you might not see it. The damage was in the lower inside corner, and was not large, about 2x0.5 inch. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers now real estatetransactions
LWB250 wrote: She says that she has walked from a number of listings of late, mainly because the sellers refused to acknowledge the market and won't move their price into a realistic range based on what (little) is selling. She also said their have been some potential sellers she has told that they should not sell unless they are willing to take a hit. Or maybe the seller knows that they can't afford to sell for more than $ below loan payoff. A lot of sellers are just stuck. Even states like CA that prohibit the lender from going after the owner on purchase money foreclosure deficiencies let the deficiencies stand on refi foreclosures. Most of the ones that are underwater and can't make the payments have refi'd already, so they just keep struggling along with the house listed at breakeven until they can't stave off foreclosure any longer. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell? car killer Jeremy Clarkson
Hendrik wrote: I had a quick look at wikipedia about him and can't see anything that would lead me to think that he has any qualifications to talk about cars. I watch him jerk, slide, and overcorrect a car around the track and think he's the only professional car tester I've ever seen who doesn't know how to drive. Smoothness just is not something he seems capable of. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Must be new car season...
Gary Hurst wrote: and what about asia? Well... I've driven a few Accords before and they just don't do anything for me. I met a Lexus dealer service manager a few months ago and he warned me to stay away from the manual IS - something about an undersized clutch and an appetite for $2000 flywheels. (But Lexi are perfect and never break!) The only Acuras I've found are the too-small RSX. Infiniti G35 is very appealing, but expensive. Drove a Volvo S60 today and while this one was a little rough, it seemed like a nice, solid, pleasant car. But every 2-4 year old car I've looked at seems to have nasty, hard plastic inside and several illegible buttons and switchgear because the emblems have already worn off. This is the sort of thing that would really get on my nerves. Has anyone but MB ever figured out how to make a decent interior? Remember when Mateusz found that W140 S320 with a stick in Warszawa? That would be just the ticket. Maybe I'll just wait for C prices to fall a little more. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Worst 50 Cars
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 17:36:31 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to the CNN home page and look for the link in their story links for the Time Magazine article on the 50 worst cars. It's a real hoot. The cars are quite amazing, but their political slant stinks. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] populations discussion now killer Farmers now real estate transactions
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 13:02:32 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... she was telling me about how a lot of agents are trying to gift listings to others. That is, they've had a listing for so long they can't move it, so they gift it to a fellow agent. This is a way to screw someone, as according to her she's in to a $1M sale at least $5k right out the door for the costs she incurs to begin the marketing. It would seem that the one that would be screwed would be the agent who is giving the listing away, so one, in effect, is screwing one's self. Or am I misunderstanding things? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] random thoughts of a nerd
Yeah, my birthday, 72 easy ones. Harry On 9/8/07, M. Mitchell Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 6:11 PM -0500 9/8/07, Luther wrote: soon it will be 9/8/7 6:54:32 I was thinking that this morning... -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] random thoughts of a nerd
You're just broke in, Harry. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Watkins Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 8:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] random thoughts of a nerd Yeah, my birthday, 72 easy ones. Harry On 9/8/07, M. Mitchell Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 6:11 PM -0500 9/8/07, Luther wrote: soon it will be 9/8/7 6:54:32 I was thinking that this morning... -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Official IowaQ Announcement
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 18:55:22 -0500 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 507 South Oak Street Jefferson IA Why did I use my normal email address rather than GMail, you might ask? Because on busy days I do a select all / delete on GMail after a quick scan of the subject lines. Didn't want to miss anything Q-related. But you sent this from your gmail address -- if someone replies to your Official Announcement email, it will go to your gmail address. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Official IowaQ Announcement
I will keep an eye out for this subject line. In my line of work, I am used to compensating for individuals who have difficulty following instructions. On 9/8/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But you sent this from your gmail address -- if someone replies to your Official Announcement email, it will go to your gmail address. Craig -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Official IowaQ Announcement
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 22:47:06 -0500 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will keep an eye out for this subject line. In my line of work, I am used to compensating for individuals who have difficulty following instructions. Having been a physics teaching assistant, I can say that applies to a number of college students, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A busy time with Bluebell
Well, the last couple of days have been busy with working on the 1982 240D/3.0, finally getting to a few things that have been on my list for awhile. With the car throwing the fan belt and stranding my wife (note to self: check the V-belts more often!), once I towed it home, I took on the job of putting in the new 300D radiator I had gotten from Rusty some while back. (When I had the front-end collision a couple of years ago, I had gotten it back on the road quickly by popping in the 240D radiator and fan the car originally came with.) It seems some of the new stuff being supplied these days isn't quite an exact copy of what was sold earlier. In January, it was the shape of the new grille I got from Rusty not quite matching up with the front edge of the hood. In this case, it was the region where the clamps to fasten the oil cooler to the driver's side of the radiator was 0.030 - 0.040 wider than both the 240D radiator and the all-metal 300D radiator that was damaged by the front-end collision. A trip next door to use my neighbor's vice and a couple of hammers yielded a couple of re-shaped clamps that fit the region well enough to put the things together. I changed the water pump pulley and mounted one of the fans and thermostatic clutches I had gotten used from Les in Taos. I then put new V-belts on the water pump/alternator and power steering pump (the A/C is still out of commission, awaiting a new compressor and a vacuum pump to pump things down). The belts from Rusty were a brand I never heard of before. Along with the new radiator, I put in a new fan shroud. Everything together now looks really spiffy. The other tasks were adjusting the valves, measuring the chain stretch (2 degrees), installing new fuel filters -- after filling the new main filter with Diesel Purge, cleaning off the battery with baking soda solution and topping off its cells with distilled water, cleaning the leaves and other debris out of the hood hinge wells, and clunking dirt out of the air filter. So, more of the requisite tasks before going to the IowaQ have been accomplished! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
