Re: [MBZ] 99 E430 FS
a 2000 Suburban compared to a 1999 model.) My parents had quite a few suburbans, a '91 (last of the big, boxy ones), a '93, and the '99 which was the best of the three. It was sitting next to the 2000 model at the local auto show, and it was a pretty good deal at over 8K cheaper. It was an awesome vehicle! However, The '05 Chrysler T&C Minivan that replaced the old Sub gets double the fuel mileage. They have nothing to tow and don't go off-roading, so the MV does very well. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula PS. $3.88 for RUG today and Diesel was $4.89! There's somethin' wrong with that! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT My rC boat (The Titanic) LIVES ON!
The little 36" RC nitro boat will be back on the water with us once again! I posted last week that it had flipped, filled with water and had nearly gone under. I checked everything over today for the first time since being out of town for over a week to find that it's all in working order! It took a while to get all of the moisture-contaminated fuel out of the engine so that it would start. The glow plug survived too! I'm very lucky! I found a torn and leaky steering boot on the hull that needs replacement, and I also have to seal the radio box and install some boyancy foam (packing peanuts and pipe insulation) in preparation for the next adventure. I know that it will flip again, but next time, it WILL stay afloat and have dry electronics! Kevin in Hillsboro. OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
As my father used to say, "die jugend von heute", meaning how easy kids have it today... Of course, he said it with a very discernible "wink:... On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:34 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And it snowed every day - even in the summer when it was 90-F. > > Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > 800-583-8601 > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:23 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday > > > > > > -- Original message -- > > From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Hendrik wrote < >> walk > >> away>> > >> > >> I don't know what it's become like where you are, but this is a change > >> that > >> has occurred during the last generation. I blame busing for part of it. > >> When I was in elem. school (60s) we had a neighborhood school - we > >> walked > >> to school - 8-10 residential blocks away - or rode bikes. > > > > In high school, I walked 1 1/2 miles each way or spent $.25 to take a > city > > bus. > > > > BTW, it was uphill both ways > > > > Pete > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Problems -- '78 240D
> Now that I know it's the Control Valve, maybe you (or someone) could > tell me > how hard it is to change? Then there's always that NASCAR thing - You change steering boxes. Straightforward, but heavy and usually a bit on the greasy side. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: tool booty
> How can I partake in the raiding of this booty? What are you looking for? Mind you the deals aren't stellar, it's just that at half the asking price they're now somewhat reasonable. > Drive out to the middle of nowhere, WA Spokane is not usually considered (by the rational) as the 'middle of nowhere'. I wouldn't think that anyplace that sported multiple universities, a major airport, nuclear weaponry, and a good symphony would be considered that. Presidents, etc., have occasionally visited on campaign stops. I think Her (would-be-)Royal Clinton was the last one such. The nukes probably went away with the B-52's. Maybe that took us off the map, so to speak? I wouldn't, however, make the trip just to visit one going-out-of-business pawn shop! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT recent local news
My guess -- based on what I do for a living -- is that the attacker suffers from schizophrenia and was not on meds. Schnzos off-meds can do some strange stuff that, at the time, seems to be perfectly logical and justified. Had one at work a while back who was convinced he was in Vietnam (he was born well after hostilities ended) and that I was the VietCon aggressive forces wanting to cause him harm. He SAW 'Con trying to fight with him -- in Jefferson, Iowa! Was one of my best moments -- I and a co-worker (who lost a leg in Nam) were able to de-escalate him with talking and some reality checking. Strangely enough, after fifteen minutes he was able to tune out the voices and go back to work. I love my job. I really mean that -- I LOVE my job. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:51 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, did y'all hear about the guy on the Greyhound bus? One passenger > flipped out and stabbed another to death and > then cut his head right off. Happened a couple of nights ago about 50 miles > west of us. I know lots of odd balls > ride the buses but jeepers. This sort of takes the cake. > > Randy > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
Old portion of the key and super glue? Luther Mitch Haley wrote: > Wilton Strickland wrote: > >> Is there some way you can get a grip on the broken key to remove it? >> > > I was thinking pocket screwdriver and Super Glue. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Its not a benz, its not a diesel its a MG Nissan Chevy!
You MG aficionados better snap it up! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Its not a benz, its not a diesel its a MG Nissan Chevy! > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/778401489.html > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Its not a benz, its not a diesel its a MG Nissan Chevy!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
And it snowed every day - even in the summer when it was 90-F. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday > > -- Original message -- > From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Hendrik wrote <> walk >> away>> >> >> I don't know what it's become like where you are, but this is a change >> that >> has occurred during the last generation. I blame busing for part of it. >> When I was in elem. school (60s) we had a neighborhood school - we >> walked >> to school - 8-10 residential blocks away - or rode bikes. > > In high school, I walked 1 1/2 miles each way or spent $.25 to take a city > bus. > > BTW, it was uphill both ways > > Pete > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT recent local news
'Read about it 10 minutes ago in paper here in Goldsboro, NC. 'Nut also taunted other passengers and police with severed head. Wilton - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 4:51 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT recent local news > So, did y'all hear about the guy on the Greyhound bus? One passenger flipped out and stabbed another to death and > then cut his head right off. Happened a couple of nights ago about 50 miles west of us. I know lots of odd balls > ride the buses but jeepers. This sort of takes the cake. > > Randy > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT recent local news
So, did y'all hear about the guy on the Greyhound bus? One passenger flipped out and stabbed another to death and then cut his head right off. Happened a couple of nights ago about 50 miles west of us. I know lots of odd balls ride the buses but jeepers. This sort of takes the cake. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Classic Car Photos
Not sure I care for the composition, but interesting, none the less. http://www.flickr.com/photos/zachsdame/sets/72057594053523121/ I parked next to a 1959 or 1960 Impala convertible at the bank today. The typical red with white trim. Gawd, that was a beautiful car Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: tool booty
Drive out to the middle of nowhere, WA At 01:57 PM 8/1/2008, you wrote: >How can I partake in the raiding of this booty? > >Luther > >Jim Cathey wrote: > > My favorite tool pawnshop is closing (lost their lease) and > > everything is marked 1/2 off for clearance. The prices are > > finally attractive. I bought a bunch of 1/4" socket stuff > > to put in the boat toolkit. I also bought a Fluke 87 meter > > for $95 and a 200/2000A AC/DC amp clamp, OTC brand, for $50. > > The Fluke had a blown BBS-1 (1A) fuse, which is a $5-$8 item, > > but I actually had a spare I put into it. The clamp works, > > we used it in the shop to measure the 1-1.5A current of a > > car stereo. > > > > I have two Flukes already and an amp clamp, but I couldn't > > seem to pass it up. Gifts? Spares? Good tools for one > > car instead of the cheap $3 Harbor Freight cheapmeter? > > I had thought to high-grade my usual meter, the 83, but it > > turns out that there are a couple of minor features of my > > 83 that I prefer to the 87. Who knows. > > > > BTW, the cheapmeter I bought for the boat died before ever > > being used. It might have gotten melted in the heat or > > something, as the switch dial is deformed sufficiently > > to not turn well anymore. The display also crapped out > > and wouldn't show much but a few random segments anymore. > > > > It really irks me that the HF meter died, but at only $3 > > each I can afford to lose a few and not even notice. They > > work adequately otherwise, but they are certainly not > > Flukes. > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
Wilton Strickland wrote: > Is there some way you can get a grip on the broken key to remove it? I was thinking pocket screwdriver and Super Glue. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
Fuel tank is mounted behind seat. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit? > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Was the key broken in the door? If so you might be able to push it out > > from the inside by removing the door panel and either drilling a hole in > > the door or some stretch Armstrong shenanigns. > > Nope, in the trunk lock. > > Hey, I know, I'll just pull out the rear seat back and drill through > there into the trunk! ;) > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Drilling locks/124 tumbler close call!
Here's a re-post of my key/lock ordeal in Oct 07. Don't give up. Wilton Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 9:13 PM Subject: 124 tumbler close call! > Early morning several days ago, I drove my now nearly showroom 87 300D a few > blocks to dental appt. 'Parked at curb out front. About 45 min. later back > to car. Key would not go all the way in! (Only prob. I've had with it > before was coupla times with wheels sitting on a bump or pavement ridge, > etc., causing lock to bind, which I noticed immediately and moved steering > wheel slightly to turn key. I also noticed when I got the car 3 yrs. ago > that the front face of the tumbler seemed loose - I could move the face of > the tumbler around easily.) > In front of dentist's office, I jiggled and pushed on the key furiously > while yanking on steering wheel. After about 10 min., got key fully > inserted; spent another 20 min or so jiggling key and wheel with no success > to turn key. > ''Called AAA for tow. Hour later tow driver called while looking for me on > wrong street. 10 min. later tow arrived - but it was not a TOW truck, it > was haul-back. > Meanwhile, I had spent time waiting for tow jiggling steering wheel and key > with no success. > Tow driver backed up to front of car. I told driver key wont turn, steering > locked. Also told him not to remove key. He got in the car to try the key > and immediately removed it. Of course, it wouldn't go back in. Car too > close to curb and slanted too low near curb to get it on truck. Driver > spent 45 min trying to get it on truck from front, though I told him early > that it may be easier from rear - rear was angled away from curb slightly. > Tow driver came to me once (I was sitting nearby with my wife in our other > car.) to ask if he could free the locked steering by disconnecting battery. > I tried to tell him battery has nothing to do with it - strictly mechanical > between key and steering collumn. Tow driver finally moved his truck to > rear of the car and got it aboard. > I drove our 350SDL the several blocks to our home as the tow driver > followed. I pulled in the yard and pointed to the spot to "drop" the car. > I had brought him to the driveway in a direction that would allow backing > into the yard without significantly brushing trees against the car. The tow > driver screwed that up, though, and managed to drag the right side of the > car WAY up into a large crepe myrtle tree 4 TIMES before finally getting in > the yard. > Rcvd new tumber yesterday via Rusty. While waiting for tumbler, I tried key > and wheel jiggling many times with no success in getting it to turn; tried 4 > different keys, including the new one. Just getting a key to fully insert > each time was quite a job. I had almost consoled myself to the prospect of > calling stealer 70 mi. away for tow and $700 to $800 cutting/grinding > tumbler and steering lock replacement ordeal, but I don't give up that > easily. > Today I mounted a key on the triangular removable sanding base of a Bosch > detail sander to be used as an automatic jiggler/vibrator. Had to mount it > a second time using a 2 inch by 1/2 inch metal bar to extend reach - sander > jammed against upper corner of center console without extension. With a key > mounted on the sander base extension, I had to shove, bang, jiggle, etc., > again to fully insert the key. Finally, though, the key was fully inserted, > and I turned the sander on. As the sander hummed and the key fibrated, I > applied back and forth twisting force to the sander. THE KEY TURNED after > only about 15 seconds! I was ready to do it for an hour! > I removed the sander from the key while being careful not to let the key > return to OFF position. Also disconnected battery to shutdown accessories > while fiddling with switch. > With key in #1 position, I inserted release "tool" I made today from white > coat hanger (had to scrape paint off to make it fit slot perfectly). Then I > tried to "unscrew" colar/cover around tumbler as directed in SOME 124 > tumbler removal instructions, but needle nose pliers won't grip it; needle > nose vise grips won't grip it, and it certainly will NOT TURN on MY 124. > After few min. of not being able to grip the collar or cylinder that > "supposedly" would unscrew, I tugged on the key. The tumbler, protective > cylinder - all of it slipped right out with gentle tug of the key! I > quickly removed the tumbler from its protective cylinder, put the new > tumbler in the cylinder and slipped it all back in place with just a bit of > jiggling for proper alignment. > Lesson from all this: If you begin to even suspect that the key doesn't > turn right, get a new tumbler. Now that I know that tumbler and protective > cylinder on MY 124 (built Oct 86) just slip in place with nothing to > unscrew, no surrounding plastic to remove, etc., I can change it in less > than 2 minutes. I just saved $700 to $800 by being lucky enough for the > "last resort" s
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
Thats what they said about the 123 too, t'aint true though... -Curt Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:54:49 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit? To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ooooh, good point. Yes, you have to be able to turn the lock cylinder to disengage the pin that runs through the lock mechanism from the back of the lock cylinder. Sorry about that As for the puffy shirt goo on my engine, well, I've wiped about as much as I can off, and as soon as I can either get into my storage stuff or find a local source for some 303 protectant I'll hose it down with that. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was the key broken in the door? If so you might be able to push it out > from the inside by removing the door panel and either drilling a hole in > the door or some stretch Armstrong shenanigns. Nope, in the trunk lock. Hey, I know, I'll just pull out the rear seat back and drill through there into the trunk! ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
I presume that a 124 would have the security style locks like my 201 which I've never messed with but on a 123 you don't need to do any of that. On a 123 car you take the door handle loose, then loosen the lock inside the door, wiggle and fiddle for awhile and the door handle will come off, it needs to turn to let the locking bar come out. Once thats out drive out the pin that holds the bar on, careful don't break or lose the spring. At this point the cylinder should fall out of the door handle. If it doesn't be REAL careful about beating it out. I broke a door handle trying that one. You don't need to turn it to take it apart. Of course a 124 could be different, I dunno. -Curt Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:19:16 -0700 From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit? To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Need help from some of youse guys who know something about machining. I ordered new lock cylinders from Rusty for the driver's door and trunk on the POS 300E---the former won't turn and I don't have the patience for a Curt-style repair, and the latter was jammed already and is even worse now that I messed with it and broke off the only key I have in it. So I guess I'll be drilling out the old cylinders, including the key tip left in the trunk lock. I have a good drill but generally have needed to make holes only in softwood and plastic, so while I have a large assortment of bits, they're mostly mild-steel cheapies. Local hardware store sells bits supposedly capable of making holes in HSS. They're cobalt with a tungsten carbide tip, "Artu USA" brand. Will this do, or do I need to go to McMaster-Carr or someplace and shell out $$$ for a real solid carbide bit? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
124 key has recessed/variable ridges on both sides - different from 123 key but like 126 key. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit? > Was the key broken in the door? If so you might be able to push it out > from the inside by removing the door panel and either drilling a hole in > the door or some stretch Armstrong shenanigns. Does the W124 have the > old standard type key or the recessed ridge? > > -Rolf > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
"youse guys" -- Northern/Yankee talk for y'all. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit? > Need help from some of youse guys who know something about machining. > > I ordered new lock cylinders from Rusty for the driver's door and > trunk on the POS 300E---the former won't turn and I don't have the > patience for a Curt-style repair, and the latter was jammed already > and is even worse now that I messed with it and broke off the only key > I have in it. > > So I guess I'll be drilling out the old cylinders, including the key > tip left in the trunk lock. I have a good drill but generally have > needed to make holes only in softwood and plastic, so while I have a > large assortment of bits, they're mostly mild-steel cheapies. > > Local hardware store sells bits supposedly capable of making holes in > HSS. They're cobalt with a tungsten carbide tip, "Artu USA" brand. > Will this do, or do I need to go to McMaster-Carr or someplace and > shell out $$$ for a real solid carbide bit? > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
Was the key broken in the door? If so you might be able to push it out from the inside by removing the door panel and either drilling a hole in the door or some stretch Armstrong shenanigns. Does the W124 have the old standard type key or the recessed ridge? -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
Or drill a coupla holes/gaps/slots in the broken key to enable gripping it with needle nose pliers. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit? > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can you drill a small hole into the broken key but big enough to put a screw > > into it to pull the key out? > > > > Hmm, good idea. The broken chunk of key is not just sitting in there > but held in by something---that is, there's friction when I try to > pull it out, such that I can't get a good enough grip on it with any > tool small enough to actually get inside the lock (I'm basically > limited to large tweezers). But a screw might stick out enough to use > Vice-Grips. > > Then I can try the power-jiggling method, which I'm already planning > to try on the driver's door lock (the one that's jammed but without a > key in it). Just need to take a trip to Harbor Freight. I bet I can > pick up an adequate orbital sander for $20 to join the family (I > already bought their bottom-of-the-line reciprocating saw and angle > grinder on sale---very capable tools for the price). > > Thanks for all the good ideas, Wilton. I still want to swap these > cylinders out simply because temperamental locks make me very > nervous---I see them as a safety issue especially if the lady of the > house is going to be driving the car---but if I can get the old ones > out without drilling, it'll be a less tiresome job. > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: tool booty
How can I partake in the raiding of this booty? Luther Jim Cathey wrote: > My favorite tool pawnshop is closing (lost their lease) and > everything is marked 1/2 off for clearance. The prices are > finally attractive. I bought a bunch of 1/4" socket stuff > to put in the boat toolkit. I also bought a Fluke 87 meter > for $95 and a 200/2000A AC/DC amp clamp, OTC brand, for $50. > The Fluke had a blown BBS-1 (1A) fuse, which is a $5-$8 item, > but I actually had a spare I put into it. The clamp works, > we used it in the shop to measure the 1-1.5A current of a > car stereo. > > I have two Flukes already and an amp clamp, but I couldn't > seem to pass it up. Gifts? Spares? Good tools for one > car instead of the cheap $3 Harbor Freight cheapmeter? > I had thought to high-grade my usual meter, the 83, but it > turns out that there are a couple of minor features of my > 83 that I prefer to the 87. Who knows. > > BTW, the cheapmeter I bought for the boat died before ever > being used. It might have gotten melted in the heat or > something, as the switch dial is deformed sufficiently > to not turn well anymore. The display also crapped out > and wouldn't show much but a few random segments anymore. > > It really irks me that the HF meter died, but at only $3 > each I can afford to lose a few and not even notice. They > work adequately otherwise, but they are certainly not > Flukes. > > -- Jim > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
Ooooh, good point. Yes, you have to be able to turn the lock cylinder to disengage the pin that runs through the lock mechanism from the back of the lock cylinder. Sorry about that As for the puffy shirt goo on my engine, well, I've wiped about as much as I can off, and as soon as I can either get into my storage stuff or find a local source for some 303 protectant I'll hose it down with that. Dan --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What about just removing the door handle/trunk lock > (or whichever one it is) and disassembling it to the point > where you can remove the lock cylinder? Worst case > scenario, you have it off the car so you can clamp the whole > thing in a vise to abuse it. > > > > I thought putting in the key and turning it was an integral > part of > the process of removing a front door handle on a 124. I > can put the > key in, but can't turn it (unless Wilton's > power-jiggling trick > works). > > (BTW, Dan, how did you get the shiny dealer crud off the > engine of > your Crown Vic?) > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:36 AM, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about just removing the door handle/trunk lock (or whichever one it is) > and disassembling it to the point where you can remove the lock cylinder? > Worst case scenario, you have it off the car so you can clamp the whole thing > in a vise to abuse it. > I thought putting in the key and turning it was an integral part of the process of removing a front door handle on a 124. I can put the key in, but can't turn it (unless Wilton's power-jiggling trick works). (BTW, Dan, how did you get the shiny dealer crud off the engine of your Crown Vic?) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHEAP! 126 diesel in Arkansas
Wow, this is the first car listed on here that I can say this about That is 45 miles from me and I can take a look if someone desires Luther Donald Snook wrote: > http://tiny.cc/EMyps > > Tons of miles, needs some work, but its cheap. > > Not mine, no affiliation. > > Donald H. Snook > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
There was a trick I read about but never tried -- stick another key end on the broken one (or the other broken part) and zap it right quick with a jumper cable on the battery. This supposedly is enough to "weld" it enough to pull it out. If you're thinking of drilling, might as well see if that will work, not like it will damage much. --R Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Can you drill a small hole into the broken key but big enough to put a screw >> into it to pull the key out? >> >> > > Hmm, good idea. The broken chunk of key is not just sitting in there > but held in by something---that is, there's friction when I try to > pull it out, such that I can't get a good enough grip on it with any > tool small enough to actually get inside the lock (I'm basically > limited to large tweezers). But a screw might stick out enough to use > Vice-Grips. > > Then I can try the power-jiggling method, which I'm already planning > to try on the driver's door lock (the one that's jammed but without a > key in it). Just need to take a trip to Harbor Freight. I bet I can > pick up an adequate orbital sander for $20 to join the family (I > already bought their bottom-of-the-line reciprocating saw and angle > grinder on sale---very capable tools for the price). > > Thanks for all the good ideas, Wilton. I still want to swap these > cylinders out simply because temperamental locks make me very > nervous---I see them as a safety issue especially if the lady of the > house is going to be driving the car---but if I can get the old ones > out without drilling, it'll be a less tiresome job. > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
What about just removing the door handle/trunk lock (or whichever one it is) and disassembling it to the point where you can remove the lock cylinder? Worst case scenario, you have it off the car so you can clamp the whole thing in a vise to abuse it. Dan --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit? > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 2:21 PM > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Wilton Strickland > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can you drill a small hole into the broken key but big > enough to put a screw > > into it to pull the key out? > > > > Hmm, good idea. The broken chunk of key is not just > sitting in there > but held in by something---that is, there's friction > when I try to > pull it out, such that I can't get a good enough grip > on it with any > tool small enough to actually get inside the lock (I'm > basically > limited to large tweezers). But a screw might stick out > enough to use > Vice-Grips. > > Then I can try the power-jiggling method, which I'm > already planning > to try on the driver's door lock (the one that's > jammed but without a > key in it). Just need to take a trip to Harbor Freight. I > bet I can > pick up an adequate orbital sander for $20 to join the > family (I > already bought their bottom-of-the-line reciprocating saw > and angle > grinder on sale---very capable tools for the price). > > Thanks for all the good ideas, Wilton. I still want to > swap these > cylinders out simply because temperamental locks make me > very > nervous---I see them as a safety issue especially if the > lady of the > house is going to be driving the car---but if I can get the > old ones > out without drilling, it'll be a less tiresome job. > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 99 E430 FS
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:24 AM, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The 2000 MY W210 came out with a number of improvements including an > upgraded interior and a lower hood line to house the V6. > The former is a reason to look only at '96-'99 in my book. The old interior was all angles and flat surfaces like that of the 124, while the "upgraded" version is all curvy. Looks cheap. (Like a 2000 Suburban compared to a 1999 model.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo and other '80s cars with lots of angular bits ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 99 E430 FS
The 2000 MY W210 came out with a number of improvements including an upgraded interior and a lower hood line to house the V6. John On 8/1/08, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'Just glanced at a 99 E430 on a used car lot 4 blocks from my house in > > Goldsboro, NC. 'Been there a few weeks. Black/black, 116 kmi. Asking > > $9100. No affiliation, etc. > > I asked about that chassis (210) a few days ago but didn't get much > response from the gang here. Guess they're too new. I think from my > limited research that the '99 E430 is the pick of the litter. First > year with side impact air bags but the fourth year of the model in the > US, so the bugs were worked out. The 4.3 liter has roughly the same > power and torque as a 124-chassis 500E, but gets 25 mpg highway (and > the base engine rubs me the wrong way just because it's a V-6). > > I am still wondering, though, how much the computerization of the car > limits shade-tree work on it, since it is a lot more complicated > electronically than the 124 or even the 140. I can't find much online > about scan tools for it, apart from the $5K+ pro systems. I do seem > to remember Kaleb saying he had picked up (used) one of those Star > laptop systems or whatever it is that the dealers use. > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
-- Original message -- From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hendrik wrote < away>> > > I don't know what it's become like where you are, but this is a change that > has occurred during the last generation. I blame busing for part of it. > When I was in elem. school (60s) we had a neighborhood school - we walked > to school - 8-10 residential blocks away - or rode bikes. In high school, I walked 1 1/2 miles each way or spent $.25 to take a city bus. BTW, it was uphill both ways Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you drill a small hole into the broken key but big enough to put a screw > into it to pull the key out? > Hmm, good idea. The broken chunk of key is not just sitting in there but held in by something---that is, there's friction when I try to pull it out, such that I can't get a good enough grip on it with any tool small enough to actually get inside the lock (I'm basically limited to large tweezers). But a screw might stick out enough to use Vice-Grips. Then I can try the power-jiggling method, which I'm already planning to try on the driver's door lock (the one that's jammed but without a key in it). Just need to take a trip to Harbor Freight. I bet I can pick up an adequate orbital sander for $20 to join the family (I already bought their bottom-of-the-line reciprocating saw and angle grinder on sale---very capable tools for the price). Thanks for all the good ideas, Wilton. I still want to swap these cylinders out simply because temperamental locks make me very nervous---I see them as a safety issue especially if the lady of the house is going to be driving the car---but if I can get the old ones out without drilling, it'll be a less tiresome job. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] why i love ebay
But then he has to pay another ebay listing fee, right? On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > guy has 86 left on an auction that is doing well and wants to raise the > price. what does he do? he ends the auction claiming the item is lost or > broken. then he relists the same item (mysteriously found?) for 10 bucks > more. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=360031050763&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
Can you drill a small hole into the broken key but big enough to put a screw into it to pull the key out? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit? > Need help from some of youse guys who know something about machining. > > I ordered new lock cylinders from Rusty for the driver's door and > trunk on the POS 300E---the former won't turn and I don't have the > patience for a Curt-style repair, and the latter was jammed already > and is even worse now that I messed with it and broke off the only key > I have in it. > > So I guess I'll be drilling out the old cylinders, including the key > tip left in the trunk lock. I have a good drill but generally have > needed to make holes only in softwood and plastic, so while I have a > large assortment of bits, they're mostly mild-steel cheapies. > > Local hardware store sells bits supposedly capable of making holes in > HSS. They're cobalt with a tungsten carbide tip, "Artu USA" brand. > Will this do, or do I need to go to McMaster-Carr or someplace and > shell out $$$ for a real solid carbide bit? > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] why i love ebay
guy has 86 left on an auction that is doing well and wants to raise the price. what does he do? he ends the auction claiming the item is lost or broken. then he relists the same item (mysteriously found?) for 10 bucks more. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=360031050763&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
Is there some way you can get a grip on the broken key to remove it? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit? > Need help from some of youse guys who know something about machining. > > I ordered new lock cylinders from Rusty for the driver's door and > trunk on the POS 300E---the former won't turn and I don't have the > patience for a Curt-style repair, and the latter was jammed already > and is even worse now that I messed with it and broke off the only key > I have in it. > > So I guess I'll be drilling out the old cylinders, including the key > tip left in the trunk lock. I have a good drill but generally have > needed to make holes only in softwood and plastic, so while I have a > large assortment of bits, they're mostly mild-steel cheapies. > > Local hardware store sells bits supposedly capable of making holes in > HSS. They're cobalt with a tungsten carbide tip, "Artu USA" brand. > Will this do, or do I need to go to McMaster-Carr or someplace and > shell out $$$ for a real solid carbide bit? > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
May I suggest? Before drilling the one you can get a key into, mount a key on a vibrating sander, such as a Bosch finish sander sanding plate, insert the key in the lock, turn on the sander and try to turn the lock with all that vibrating going on. I had fantastic luck with this procedure on my 87 300D master/.ign lock that I couldn't turn for several weeks last Oct/Sep. 'Turned it in 10 seconds with the key mounted on vibrating sander. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit? > Need help from some of youse guys who know something about machining. > > I ordered new lock cylinders from Rusty for the driver's door and > trunk on the POS 300E---the former won't turn and I don't have the > patience for a Curt-style repair, and the latter was jammed already > and is even worse now that I messed with it and broke off the only key > I have in it. > > So I guess I'll be drilling out the old cylinders, including the key > tip left in the trunk lock. I have a good drill but generally have > needed to make holes only in softwood and plastic, so while I have a > large assortment of bits, they're mostly mild-steel cheapies. > > Local hardware store sells bits supposedly capable of making holes in > HSS. They're cobalt with a tungsten carbide tip, "Artu USA" brand. > Will this do, or do I need to go to McMaster-Carr or someplace and > shell out $$$ for a real solid carbide bit? > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 99 E430 FS
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 'Just glanced at a 99 E430 on a used car lot 4 blocks from my house in > Goldsboro, NC. 'Been there a few weeks. Black/black, 116 kmi. Asking > $9100. No affiliation, etc. I asked about that chassis (210) a few days ago but didn't get much response from the gang here. Guess they're too new. I think from my limited research that the '99 E430 is the pick of the litter. First year with side impact air bags but the fourth year of the model in the US, so the bugs were worked out. The 4.3 liter has roughly the same power and torque as a 124-chassis 500E, but gets 25 mpg highway (and the base engine rubs me the wrong way just because it's a V-6). I am still wondering, though, how much the computerization of the car limits shade-tree work on it, since it is a lot more complicated electronically than the 124 or even the 140. I can't find much online about scan tools for it, apart from the $5K+ pro systems. I do seem to remember Kaleb saying he had picked up (used) one of those Star laptop systems or whatever it is that the dealers use. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 99 E430 FS
'Just glanced at a 99 E430 on a used car lot 4 blocks from my house in Goldsboro, NC. 'Been there a few weeks. Black/black, 116 kmi. Asking $9100. No affiliation, etc. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Most of the BioD produced in the US is shipped to the EU. Seems that we cheapskates are unwilling to pay the 5.50 or so a gallon it would be at retail in the US. This is the wholesale price, FOB Plant as of 2 days ago: Soy Biodiesel Additive B99.9 - 4.2800 To this is added shipping, $.50-.60 per gallon of taxes and the distributor's margin, and the retailer's margin. At 11:52 AM 8/1/2008, you wrote: >It is headed to EU, which must have stringent requirements from what >I have gathered > >clay > >On 1 Aug 2008, at 05:43, Allan Streib wrote: > > > "Redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > >> Very true. Oil companies are exporting all our diesel, which drives > >> up the cost of feedstock for BioD, since nobody can afford to > >> transport, plant or harvest at a cost that allows the refiner to make > >> the fuel. > > > > At least some of the diesel we export is of a grade that cannot be > > sold > > here any more, thanks to the new low-sulfur requirements. > > > > Allan > > -- > > 1983 300D > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Hendrik wrote <> I don't know what it's become like where you are, but this is a change that has occurred during the last generation. I blame busing for part of it. When I was in elem. school (60s) we had a neighborhood school - we walked to school - 8-10 residential blocks away - or rode bikes. In the summer the school was open with things for the neighborhood kids to do - each classroom had a highschool volunteer who again - was local to the neigborhood - who ran games and kept order. There was a baseball diamond behind the school and we could always find enough kids to start a game. Also the school library was open so the (local) kids could check out books. IIRC the whole operation was run by volunteers who I recall as being high school kids - who were usually big brothers and sisters of someone we were playing with. At the end of the day we walked or rode bikes home. After dinner we often went out to play again - and would stay out until 10 or so (this was when we were in low-mid teens. Younger kids were around too but usually had an older sibling there also. Then came busing & the neighborhood concept left. The schools were still there but the kids and sometime teachers were from other parts of town. BTW, this was in Hampton Va - not an urban area - mostly suburban but the housing was close to shopping - Seems like we started hearing about crime a lot more since then - maybe it was 24 hr news? maybe not - but it seemed like kids weren't safe anymore so the parents had to drive them. I guess it was likely a combination of things ---but I think we are worse off then before - Thoughts? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: "Hendrik & Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday > Ohh man, he is starting to sound like the current white house resident, > that's scary stuff. > Now if he said the way to save fuel is to get off your fat behind and > walk, that would make more sense but the voters wouldn't like that, just > like they wouldn't like being told that their supersized urban vehicles > are too big for their needs. Remember Mom needs that monster truck to > drive little Billy to soccer practice which is a 10 min walk away but if > she keeps the tires properly inflated she will reverse climate change. > > Hendrik > with an MB monster truck in the drive way > > Donald Snook wrote: >> Here's the video. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzZNP4tTfV0&eurl=http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/07/hot-air-obama-says-blowing-up-your.html >> >> >> Donald H. Snook >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Donald Snook >> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:52 AM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday >> >> "There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making >> sure your tires are properly inflated - simple thing. But we could save >> all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling - if >> everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? >> You'd actually save just as much" >> >> All I can say is, WOW! >> >> Donald H. Snook >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing
There is that constant of purchasing more than you can afford. Greed for more than one deserves and grasping for that higher rung will kill more often than pay off. Does one really need that shiny new car? the huge plasma HDTV? An RV and ATV? The huge home to hold it all? The fastest, biggest, best, newest, greatest, shiniest? All this does is perpetuate our dependence on china to supply more crap that will end up in a land fill. At what point does alot become enough? clay On 1 Aug 2008, at 06:30, Tom Hargrave wrote: > Bad things happen to good people and loosing a house or having to > sell a > house for less than you owe can be one of the consequences. But > don't blame > the housing market for your friend's job loss. They bought the house & > committed to the note. And more often than not, there are signs of > financial > distress or sweeping changes that Employees choose to ignore. It's > easier to > just keep spending money! > > My Sister in-law & her husband were forced to move to St. Louis to > keep > their jobs with Chrysler. They lost their house, not because of the > recent > housing market downturn, but because they bought more house than > they could > afford. Now they are looking at another forced move because of the > truck > plant slowdown and are facing the loss of yet another house that > they had no > business buying. See a pattern here? > > You never hear me complain on the list but we have a split > household because > of my Wife's forced job move. She works for Chrysler in Wisconsin & > I work > in Alabama. Last time I looked, the split household was costing us > about 17K > EXTRA a year and we are committed to this for 8 years total, with 4 > years to > go. Loosing a house would have been less painful and cheaper! > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Oil companies, WAS:Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
Actually, here's a more accurate count of oil reserves - I only copies part of this report as it is lengthy - if you want the full report all let me know - <<< Here is a comparison of the total US oil resources (proven + estimated + undiscovered technically recoverable) with the (proven) reserves of the top "oil-rich" countries in billions of barrels: US 171 Saudi Arabia 170* <-- see note below Iran 32** Iraq 15** Untied Arab Emirates - 98** <-- see note below Venezuela 80** <-- see note below Russia 60 Libya 39 Nigeria36 China 18 Qatar 15 Mexico12 Algeria11 Brazil 11*** <-- see note below Kazakhstan 9 Canada9 <-- see note below Norway 8 Azerbaijan 7 India5 * Saudi Arabia has an "official" 262 billion bbls of reserves, but the secretive Saudi's won't revel how this is calculated. In 1990 they increased their reserves from 170 bbl bbls to 258 billion bbls, a 50% increase, without apparently doing any geological work, when OPEC decided that each country would be able to produce oil only in a ratio with its reserves. Even though they have been pumping about 10 billion bbls per year out of their fields, their reserves never go down, yet their major fields are suffering salt water intrusion, a sure sign they are depleting. Recent snooping by US geologists has indicated their reserves are much lower than the official estimate. The number shown in the table is their reserves before the suspicious increase and may be significantly higher than their actual reserves.>>> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:25 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Oil companies, WAS:Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday > BZT WRONG! > > People generally hostile to civilization control a large supply of > oil. Arabs, nigerians, that Wonko CHavez, Mexico and Russia control > most oil supplies. American oil companies, (Who is left? Conoco > Phillips?) control a relatively small amount of oil. > > BP-Amoco: The BP is British Petroleum, Exxon Mobil? Maybe US, I am > not sure. They operate as a global company, not an American > company. Royal Dutch Shell: not American, Petrofina, Fina: are > French. CItgo: Hugo's little Commie arm. > > Demand is influenced to a large degree by India, China and the > USA. US consumption has been declining. India and china's demand is > growing rapidly. > > It is a world market. > > At 10:06 PM 7/31/2008, you wrote: >>It is Supply and Demand 101. They control the supply and demand more and >>more money of us. What could be more American than that? >> >>On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>wrote: >> >> > I agree 100%. Our oil companies making money is serving the best >> > interest >> > of >> > our country! >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Tom Hargrave >> > www.kegkits.com >> > 256-656-1924 >> > >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > On Behalf Of Allan Streib >> > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:54 PM >> > To: Mercedes Discussion List >> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri >> > yesterday >> > >> > "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > >> > > What is we just stopped EXPORTING our own oil? Crazystuff our there, >> > > but the oil companies are in business to make money, not to serve the >> > > best interests of the USA. >> > >> > The US is a net importer of petroleum. We both export and import >> > refined product where that makes economic sense. Petroleum is a >> > global business. >> > >> > What's wrong with oil companies making money? If they didn't make >> > money, they wouldn't be in business. Who would that help? >> > >> > -- >> > 1983 300D >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG. >> > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: >> > 7/29/2008 >> > 6:43 AM >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. >> > Checked by AVG. >> > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: >> > 7/29/2008 >> > 6:43 AM >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.ok
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
It is headed to EU, which must have stringent requirements from what I have gathered clay On 1 Aug 2008, at 05:43, Allan Streib wrote: > "Redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> Very true. Oil companies are exporting all our diesel, which drives >> up the cost of feedstock for BioD, since nobody can afford to >> transport, plant or harvest at a cost that allows the refiner to make >> the fuel. > > At least some of the diesel we export is of a grade that cannot be > sold > here any more, thanks to the new low-sulfur requirements. > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing
I am all for long term investing in real estate. Current home is assessed at quintuple value from purchase 15 years ago. Investment property purchases three years ago is 50% gain. Parent's home is valued at over ten times purchase price. Turn and burn is for very short term investors in a hot market. Took a decade for my first home to double in value. Starter home in a luke warm market both times. clay On 1 Aug 2008, at 04:57, Mitch Haley wrote: > Tom Hargrave wrote: > >> If the market stays depressed, our house will sell for maybe $110K >> instead of $138K. But the same market forces will allow us to pay >> only >> 160K for a house that we would have paid $225K a year ago. This will >> only work to our advantage because the payments will be less even >> with >> less equity to roll foreward. > > How do those prices compare with ten years ago? That $225,000 a > year or two ago > was just stupidity, not to be included in any decisions made today. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
Pull out the broken key bit and have a new key cut, then you wont have to drill? -Rolf Alex Chamberlain wrote: > Need help from some of youse guys who know something about machining. > > I ordered new lock cylinders from Rusty for the driver's door and > trunk on the POS 300E---the former won't turn and I don't have the > patience for a Curt-style repair, and the latter was jammed already > and is even worse now that I messed with it and broke off the only key > I have in it. > > So I guess I'll be drilling out the old cylinders, including the key > tip left in the trunk lock. I have a good drill but generally have > needed to make holes only in softwood and plastic, so while I have a > large assortment of bits, they're mostly mild-steel cheapies. > > Local hardware store sells bits supposedly capable of making holes in > HSS. They're cobalt with a tungsten carbide tip, "Artu USA" brand. > Will this do, or do I need to go to McMaster-Carr or someplace and > shell out $$$ for a real solid carbide bit? > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Power antenna
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a power Antenna I bought for my SDL and never installed. It > is a rebuilt from Becker USA and our friends Ed Ebel and Jaime Kop. > Rusty's new price is $186. I'd like $75 for this one. Contact me > offlist at lfaeth at leadingchange com > Loren (or Rusty or anybody else), do you know if this is the same part for an early 124? 300E needs one. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Drilling out locks, what kind of bit?
Need help from some of youse guys who know something about machining. I ordered new lock cylinders from Rusty for the driver's door and trunk on the POS 300E---the former won't turn and I don't have the patience for a Curt-style repair, and the latter was jammed already and is even worse now that I messed with it and broke off the only key I have in it. So I guess I'll be drilling out the old cylinders, including the key tip left in the trunk lock. I have a good drill but generally have needed to make holes only in softwood and plastic, so while I have a large assortment of bits, they're mostly mild-steel cheapies. Local hardware store sells bits supposedly capable of making holes in HSS. They're cobalt with a tungsten carbide tip, "Artu USA" brand. Will this do, or do I need to go to McMaster-Carr or someplace and shell out $$$ for a real solid carbide bit? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Problems -- '78 240D
Thx Jim - Now that I know it's the Control Valve, maybe you (or someone) could tell me how hard it is to change? Then there's always that NASCAR thing - ;-) Time for the WSM - Thx!! Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Problems -- '78 240D >> My '78 240 D has developed a problem - turning to the left works >> as it >> should but turning to righ feels like there is no PS at all! Geez - >> what a >> surprise *that* was! Anyway, replacing the pump with a known good >> one did >> nothing to fix the problem. > > The pump doesn't know left from right, you shouldn't be surprised > that a new one made no difference. The control valve is inside > the steering box. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing
A bit of a risk to run a new and expensive vehicle without insurance isn't it? No collision coverage on a beater is one thing but I don't think I would wish to chance it on a $25K vehicle. Randy who drives older stuff partly to avoid the high costs of insurance on new ones. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing Kris Gilmore wrote: > they assume insurance cost of > $2400 a year (mainly for collision to protect the debt holder) while > in fact I have been paying $290 (liability only) on a debt free machine. Good point. 72 months interest free can be expensive if it makes you buy six years of comprehensive and collision on a car you didn't want to insure. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: tool booty
My favorite tool pawnshop is closing (lost their lease) and everything is marked 1/2 off for clearance. The prices are finally attractive. I bought a bunch of 1/4" socket stuff to put in the boat toolkit. I also bought a Fluke 87 meter for $95 and a 200/2000A AC/DC amp clamp, OTC brand, for $50. The Fluke had a blown BBS-1 (1A) fuse, which is a $5-$8 item, but I actually had a spare I put into it. The clamp works, we used it in the shop to measure the 1-1.5A current of a car stereo. I have two Flukes already and an amp clamp, but I couldn't seem to pass it up. Gifts? Spares? Good tools for one car instead of the cheap $3 Harbor Freight cheapmeter? I had thought to high-grade my usual meter, the 83, but it turns out that there are a couple of minor features of my 83 that I prefer to the 87. Who knows. BTW, the cheapmeter I bought for the boat died before ever being used. It might have gotten melted in the heat or something, as the switch dial is deformed sufficiently to not turn well anymore. The display also crapped out and wouldn't show much but a few random segments anymore. It really irks me that the HF meter died, but at only $3 each I can afford to lose a few and not even notice. They work adequately otherwise, but they are certainly not Flukes. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT- Anyone here a 1099 employee or contractor?
If so, drop me a note off-list. I have some questions about this... Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 126 Power antenna
I have a power Antenna I bought for my SDL and never installed. It is a rebuilt from Becker USA and our friends Ed Ebel and Jaime Kop. Rusty's new price is $186. I'd like $75 for this one. Contact me offlist at lfaeth at leadingchange com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Problems -- '78 240D
Enter your car in some NASCAR races (it would not have a problem with shredding tires)? Put an Obama sticker on it? --R LarryT wrote: > Howdy - > My '78 240 D has developed a problem - turning to the left works as it > should but turning to righ feels like there is no PS at all! Geez - what a > surprise *that* was! Anyway, replacing the pump with a known good one did > nothing to fix the problem. > > What should I look at now?? > > Thx!! > > Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > 800-583-8601 > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing
Bad things happen to good people and loosing a house or having to sell a house for less than you owe can be one of the consequences. But don't blame the housing market for your friend's job loss. They bought the house & committed to the note. And more often than not, there are signs of financial distress or sweeping changes that Employees choose to ignore. It's easier to just keep spending money! My Sister in-law & her husband were forced to move to St. Louis to keep their jobs with Chrysler. They lost their house, not because of the recent housing market downturn, but because they bought more house than they could afford. Now they are looking at another forced move because of the truck plant slowdown and are facing the loss of yet another house that they had no business buying. See a pattern here? You never hear me complain on the list but we have a split household because of my Wife's forced job move. She works for Chrysler in Wisconsin & I work in Alabama. Last time I looked, the split household was costing us about 17K EXTRA a year and we are committed to this for 8 years total, with 4 years to go. Loosing a house would have been less painful and cheaper! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 7:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Those who suffer are the ones who are forced to trade property (Job relocation, etc) during a bad market swing. Some relatives of mine relocated to RI in April 2007. Bought for 80% of what the house had been listed for, thought they got in at the bottom. Got hit by workforce reduction in October. Relocated to St Louis area this spring, lost almost 25% on the Rhode Island house (partly because the largest employer in the area had done major layoffs in November). They would have been in a world of hurt if the new employer hadn't bought the house from them for breakeven and eaten the ~90k loss for them. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1585 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:39 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1585 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:39 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Problems -- '78 240D
> My '78 240 D has developed a problem - turning to the left works > as it > should but turning to righ feels like there is no PS at all! Geez - > what a > surprise *that* was! Anyway, replacing the pump with a known good > one did > nothing to fix the problem. The pump doesn't know left from right, you shouldn't be surprised that a new one made no difference. The control valve is inside the steering box. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Power Steering Problems -- '78 240D
Howdy - My '78 240 D has developed a problem - turning to the left works as it should but turning to righ feels like there is no PS at all! Geez - what a surprise *that* was! Anyway, replacing the pump with a known good one did nothing to fix the problem. What should I look at now?? Thx!! Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing
BT wrong. Go to Washington DC, where you too can be a winner. ---R Redghost wrote: > If you > want to gamble, go to Vegas or Atlantic City > > clay > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '73 450SLC
The photos won't load for me. If I were to get another SL C it would either be an early or one of the very last ones (380). At some point the market value of a mint condition SL C will have to skyrocket because they are so very difficult to maintain cosmetically. The peeling paint on the louvers was a design flaw that showed up after only 3 years, and it is a major chore to fix. The interior is cheap plastic and the leather seats get easily torn. The engine is crammed into the compartment and tends to run hot and need major service at under 200K miles. Thistle green and signal red were the two best colors for the SL C IMO. They were heavy and great to drive - solid on the road. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:53 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Rentfro wrote: > > These are some odd pictures. Check out the engine temp in the one pic. > > > > > > > > http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/car/777826314.html > > In case you wondered what the seller looks like: > > http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd253/ziver005/1973%20Vintage%20Green%20450%20SLC%20-100K/300d041.jpg > > Funny how he filled his camera and put every single pic on the ad with no > culling, but didn't bother to pull the sheepskins off the front seats or > open > the trunk or hood. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it
any 140 chassis diesel is suspect until proven good, in my book. At 07:40 AM 8/1/2008, you wrote: >Loren wrote: "The Rodbenders are the 350SDL and 350SD only. Less >power, even if they run right." > >I think there were also a couple of years of the 140 Chassis that >they called 300SD, but they still had the 3.5 rodbender. > > >Donald H. Snook > > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it
Donald Snook wrote: > Loren wrote: "The Rodbenders are the 350SDL and 350SD only. Less power, > even if they run right." > > I think there were also a couple of years of the 140 Chassis that they called > 300SD, but they still had the 3.5 rodbender. > Yep. If it's a diesel S series from the 1990s sold by MBUSA, it's a rodbender, even if they call it a S300D or whatever. 124 and 210 chassis are ok, at least as far as the major engine moving parts are concerned. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Obama Quote while in Springfield, Missouri yesterday
"Redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Very true. Oil companies are exporting all our diesel, which drives > up the cost of feedstock for BioD, since nobody can afford to > transport, plant or harvest at a cost that allows the refiner to make > the fuel. At least some of the diesel we export is of a grade that cannot be sold here any more, thanks to the new low-sulfur requirements. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's big and junky but I love it
Loren wrote: "The Rodbenders are the 350SDL and 350SD only. Less power, even if they run right." I think there were also a couple of years of the 140 Chassis that they called 300SD, but they still had the 3.5 rodbender. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Those who suffer are the ones who are forced to trade property (Job > relocation, etc) during a bad market swing. Some relatives of mine relocated to RI in April 2007. Bought for 80% of what the house had been listed for, thought they got in at the bottom. Got hit by workforce reduction in October. Relocated to St Louis area this spring, lost almost 25% on the Rhode Island house (partly because the largest employer in the area had done major layoffs in November). They would have been in a world of hurt if the new employer hadn't bought the house from them for breakeven and eaten the ~90k loss for them. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 1:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a "non-proportional" font, e.g. courier) ** On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 080728 4.603 4.664 4.806 4.772 4.604 4.518 4.570 4.657 4.766 4.869 080721 4.718 4.773 4.869 4.869 4.723 4.649 4.701 4.714 4.845 4.964 080714 4.764 4.822 4.889 4.912 4.777 4.698 4.737 4.718 4.909 5.026 080707 4.727 4.789 4.863 4.887 4.741 4.654 4.697 4.672 4.886 5.001 080630 4.645 4.704 4.822 4.822 4.643 4.571 4.604 4.638 4.817 4.928 080623 4.648 4.711 4.833 4.831 4.648 4.574 4.602 4.652 4.816 4.922 080616 4.692 4.752 4.853 4.874 4.690 4.618 4.656 4.685 4.852 4.969 080609 4.692 4.743 4.834 4.879 4.677 4.615 4.658 4.698 4.874 4.992 080602 4.707 4.759 4.846 4.907 4.687 4.643 4.664 4.680 4.878 5.027 080526 4.723 4.779 4.843 4.913 4.717 4.667 4.673 4.653 4.883 5.027 080519 4.497 4.544 4.610 4.682 4.480 4.463 4.443 4.442 4.610 4.737 080512 4.331 4.377 4.463 4.516 4.310 4.298 4.268 4.276 4.454 4.547 080505 4.149 4.194 4.337 4.345 4.117 4.101 4.084 4.156 4.303 4.382 080428 4.177 4.230 4.346 4.376 4.157 4.133 4.113 4.141 4.312 4.390 080421 4.143 4.207 4.346 4.370 4.126 4.098 4.077 4.111 4.255 4.317 080414 4.059 4.117 4.239 4.266 4.043 4.013 4.000 4.039 4.176 4.234 080407 3.955 4.005 4.121 4.142 3.936 3.917 3.894 3.974 4.052 4.118 080331 3.964 4.014 4.130 4.160 3.941 3.929 3.907 3.972 4.049 4.112 080324 3.989 4.045 4.142 4.186 3.975 3.964 3.928 3.953 4.056 4.119 080317 3.974 4.035 4.119 4.177 3.967 3.958 3.914 3.892 4.018 4.083 080310 3.819 3.870 3.938 3.989 3.814 3.784 3.798 3.732 3.885 3.955 080303 3.658 3.700 3.813 3.825 3.636 3.639 3.609 3.573 3.736 3.803 080225 3.552 3.608 3.710 3.693 3.562 3.525 3.510 3.473 3.609 3.672 080218 3.396 3.444 3.588 3.526 3.396 3.365 3.367 3.350 3.454 3.511 080211 3.280 3.324 3.542 3.412 3.266 3.249 3.239 3.264 3.347 3.393 080204 3.280 3.338 3.566 3.438 3.275 3.243 3.247 3.260 3.325 3.377 080128 3.259 3.327 3.583 3.432 3.258 3.218 3.218 3.236 3.301 3.346 080121 3.270 3.343 3.594 3.472 3.264 3.228 3.222 3.229 3.327 3.360 080114 3.326 3.391 3.621 3.510 3.318 3.288 3.266 3.261 3.420 3.459 080107 3.376 3.436 3.644 3.554 3.366 3.345 3.318 3.276 3.474 3.526 071231 3.345 3.399 3.600 3.519 3.328 3.309 3.293 3.269 3.451 3.491 071224 3.308 3.356 3.584 3.497 3.275 3.277 3.246 3.268 3.411 3.434 071217 3.309 3.359 3.581 3.511 3.273 3.271 3.245 3.319 3.415 3.426 071210 3.325 3.372 3.570 3.514 3.293 3.276 3.265 3.397 3.440 3.455 071203 3.416 3.444 3.595 3.570 3.376 3.385 3.345 3.487 3.532 3.567 071126 3.444 3.453 3.590 3.574 3.389 3.423 3.360 3.527 3.587 3.620 071119 3.410 3.407 3.488 3.524 3.350 3.389 3.324 3.507 3.586 3.624 071112 3.425 3.415 3.484 3.523 3.362 3.403 3.347 3.532 3.608 3.663 071105 3.303 3.290 3.375 3.381 3.244 3.278 3.219 3.411 3.508 3.524 071029 3.157 3.148 3.250 3.251 3.095 3.122 3.062 3.281 3.394 3.406 071022 3.094 3.078 3.182 3.186 3.022 3.067 2.994 3.229 3.323 3.338 071015 3.039 3.023 3.122 3.125 2.970 3.025 2.941 3.169 3.229
Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing
-- Original message -- From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Tom Hargrave wrote: > > > If the market stays depressed, our house will sell for maybe $110K > > instead of $138K. But the same market forces will allow us to pay only > > 160K for a house that we would have paid $225K a year ago. This will > > only work to our advantage because the payments will be less even with > > less equity to roll foreward. Most of us who live in homes for many years end up on the "Good" side of this. Those who suffer are the ones who are forced to trade property (Job relocation, etc) during a bad market swing. That happened to me in the mid 70's, hurt like heck to loose about 25% of real value. Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '73 450SLC
Robert Rentfro wrote: > These are some odd pictures. Check out the engine temp in the one pic. > > > > http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/car/777826314.html In case you wondered what the seller looks like: http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd253/ziver005/1973%20Vintage%20Green%20450%20SLC%20-100K/300d041.jpg Funny how he filled his camera and put every single pic on the ad with no culling, but didn't bother to pull the sheepskins off the front seats or open the trunk or hood. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing
Tom Hargrave wrote: > If the market stays depressed, our house will sell for maybe $110K > instead of $138K. But the same market forces will allow us to pay only > 160K for a house that we would have paid $225K a year ago. This will > only work to our advantage because the payments will be less even with > less equity to roll foreward. How do those prices compare with ten years ago? That $225,000 a year or two ago was just stupidity, not to be included in any decisions made today. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing
There is actually a positive side to the housing market burst. For example, my wife and I are planning to sell our house in 3 - 4 years & upgrade into something nicer. If the market stays depressed, our house will sell for maybe $110K instead of $138K. But the same market forces will allow us to pay only 160K for a house that we would have paid $225K a year ago. This will only work to our advantage because the payments will be less even with less equity to roll foreward. In other words, it's not all "doom & gloom". Matter of fact, it's only bad if you were trying to make fast cash by speculating on the market or if you are using a ARM to buy more house than you can afford. Speculating is gambling, not investing and buying more house than you can afford is really no better. So, who's really to blame here? I'll give you a few hints. It's not the banks, the builders or the realestate agents! Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: 8/1/08 1:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT : Buying new/financing The whole housing burst is due to the idea that home prices will increase, such that you could make a stupid investment you could not afford, and then sell it for a huge profit when prices soared. Instead, we have fools who should never have gotten loans being stuck with a sour market and decreasing values. Much akin to the car model of paying far more than you will ever get out of the item in the end. The "creative" financing always seems to screw you in the end. Buying on margin, ARM loans, 0% down, 0% interest. Smoke and mirrors to entrap the idiots who should not be getting into the game. If you want to gamble, go to Vegas or Atlantic City clay On 31 Jul 2008, at 16:33, Allan Streib wrote: > Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> STOP with the financing already. Just pay cash. No cash, you do >> not need the darn car or you should get one you can really afford. > > For a car I agree -- though if you plan to KEEP the car for 5 years, > financing it for 3 or 4 at a good rate is not the worst thing you > could do, particularly if you need a car to work and work allows you > to pay for other things you need. You use the car for 5 years, you > pay for it for 5 years. > > Same with a house. You use it over time, realize benefits from it > over time, so it makes sense to pay for it over time. > > What's a bad idea is using long term money (credit cards) for short > term items (food, clothes, gasoline, other consumables). > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 6:43 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
