Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease
easiest way is to fit a grease nipple to the hub dust cap and then pump grease into it until comes out the other side. Hendrik Fmiser wrote: Speaking of wheel bearing grease Is there a way to purchase a quantity greater than the 150 g tube? Like a tube of it? Or maybe is it made by Valvoline (or something) and is available as a different part number like the coolant is? Or am I stuck buying a stack of tubes? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dang. It was one of the 'good' fuses.
What a good idea-before the UK adopted the US throwaway society. Do you still have any? Could be an event at the ChowdahQ. Dwight (who used to roll his own-Bull Durham.) Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dang. It was one of the 'good' fuses. Grretings and Salutations, All. In the U.K. in the '60's you could, indeed, get a box of metal form fuses to replace the burned through part on the ceramic body. Long gone now, of course. Just like the early days, a fuse kit was a card with several gauges of wire, a glass tube, some metal end caps and a file-cum-glass cutter thing. Roll your own! God, I'm gettin' olde. Fred Moir Lynn MA '87 190DT Bent '87 190DT Blue '85 300TD Sunshine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease
Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com writes: Speaking of wheel bearing grease Is there a way to purchase a quantity greater than the 150 g tube? Like a tube of it? Or maybe is it made by Valvoline (or something) and is available as a different part number like the coolant is? I seem to recall Marshall saying it was the same as some mil-spec grease made by Shell. Wonder if anyone with a Marshall Archive could find that... Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease
easiest way is to fit a grease nipple to the hub dust cap and then pump grease into it until comes out the other side. I agree that is the classical easiest way to grease the bearings. But that method may be all wrong for Mercedes wheels. I learned from Marshal to use a very specific amount of grease per bearing. The empty space not filled with grease is important for circulating the grease within the assembly. Also, in my experience, one tube of MB special grease is exactly enough for two wheels. NK -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090815/155d4355/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease
Here are 2 posts by Marshall made in 2005: There are many fine synthetic wheel bearing greases (many/most must not be mixed), but Mercedes is VERY particular about the quantity of grease to be used. Too much or too little (by even 10%) and premature failure is likely. The advantage of buying a tube of the Mercedes supplied grease is there is precisely the proper amount (150 gm as I recall) to do both front wheels. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor mbo...@pitt.edu '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm my...@netscape.net wrote: ha! mercedes batteries, just a over priced battery with a cheap mercedes paper label Subject: Re: [MBZ] Consumers Reports battery ratings what are we i cant believeth it i would have thought we HAD to use only mercedes benz battery's you know some ppl in this group collins WHY? Marshall WELL. there is ALLWAYS the prolonged discourse regarding the following things a break fluid! b transmission fluid! c air conditioner refrigerant! d air conditioner compressors! e automotive glass! f wheel bearing torque ! g wheel bearing grease! h godonlyknowswhatelse! I i am surprised there have been no howls of protest no out rage !!! using a non MERCEDES BATTERY!?!!?( GASP), oh the humanity! ps since no one has raised it does mercedes makewindshield washer fluid ??? and will pep boys stuff work in a 500 sec ahh let the diatribe begin! Myth, heresy, ignorance, rumor, carelessness, inattention! Mercedes labeled batteries are FINE batteries. They also cost about the same as the DieHard Internationals and the top of the line Interstates (all are made by Johnson Controls and are of about the same quality and have a history of giving about equal service everything else being equal). The Johnson Control's batteries sold by Wal-Mart, Costco, Advance Auto, Pep Boys, Auto Zone, etc have about the same recent history of service and are from 20-50% less expensive. A Mercedes battery is not remotely a bad battery, just a fairly expensive one. A Mercedes battery MAY end up being an inexpensive alternative if you are stuck with a dead battery in the middle of nowhere. You can call Mercedes and they will bring you a new battery. They will NOT charge for the roadside installation or the service call - only the list price for the battery. That CAN be much cheaper than some of the alternatives. If you drive into a Mercedes dealership the cost WILL be much higher as they WILL charge labor for installation. SOME Mercedes products are GREAT values and some are unique. The was nothing like Mercedes anti-freeze available in the US until a few years ago and EVERYTHING else was quite inferior. Now Zerex G05 is available and is identical (Valvoline is using the Mercedes formula). You can use either, but be sure to change it every few years. Then there is Mercedes sunroof grease. NOTHING else will do the job properly. Some Mercedes products are GREAT values (rebuilt water pumps and rear wheel bearing repair kits used to be great bargains) and are often cheaper than aftermarket replacements. Some Mercedes parts are ONLY available from the factory (try and find an aftermarket radiator or exhaust system for a 190D 2.5 turbo in the US). Some aftermarket products have NEVER met Mercedes standards (use NOTHING but Mercedes pistons and cams). How many US makers can supply almost any part for a 30+ year old car within a few days. The pricing policies of a few dealerships (selling parts at 25% to 200% suggested list) make NOTHING they sell much of a value. Mercedes does NOT require that you use Mercedes brake fluid - just DOT-4+ changed at least every 2 years. They permit almost any Mercon/Dexron rated transmission fluid for all the 722.1, .2, .3, .4 transmissions (maybe .5 as well - not sure). The newer 722.6 series does require Mercedes specific fluid that's QUITE expensive, but it lasts 2-4X as long as conventional fluid. There is NO specific for refrigerant (the US government regulates refrigerant). Mercedes factory glass MUST meet certain European standards to be used in a car in Europe (it used to be quite a bit softer - not sure about now). Those standards were quite different than those imposed by the US, so the glass used had to meet BOTH standards. The replacement glass available from dealers in the US now, need only meet US standards. You can of course tighten your wheel bearings any way you choose, but if you don't service and tighten them the way Mercedes suggests, they are unlikely to last the life of the car (many last 400-500kmi or more if maintained as Mercedes suggests) and the car will NOT drive like a Mercedes (usually more like OLD, beat Chevy). As to Wheel bearing grease, the
Re: [MBZ] Dang. It was one of the 'good' fuses.
Dwight, et al. Nope! Nothing left but memories. I had to buy three whole boxes of fuse replacement parts for my 170v, and, being a starving Cpl., grumbled at the price. Happy Days of Yore! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. At 08:14 AM 8/15/2009, you wrote: What a good idea-before the UK adopted the US throwaway society. Do you still have any? Could be an event at the ChowdahQ. Dwight (who used to roll his own-Bull Durham.) Dwight E. Giles, Jr. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Repair advice needed
You shoulda bought wunnathem Caddy limos I showed you. There is a funeral car Caddy I have seen for sale locally. I could put in that TODAY! What would it take? --R Donald Snook wrote: It was definitely low on coolant. I took the thermostat out again and filled the coolant that. It took more than two gallons! Once I got it filled back up, the temp went way down, but on the test run it kept leaking and got hot agdin. I am REALLY hoping it's not the intake manifold. I did check the oil and if it is the intake it is leaking externally because if it is was dumping the coolant into the engine that fast, I should have seen lots of coolant in the oil. Donald H Snook McDonald Tinker Law Firm (316) 263-5851 www.mtsqh.com O ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease
you can search the archives here http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ Allan Streib wrote: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com writes: Speaking of wheel bearing grease Is there a way to purchase a quantity greater than the 150 g tube? Like a tube of it? Or maybe is it made by Valvoline (or something) and is available as a different part number like the coolant is? I seem to recall Marshall saying it was the same as some mil-spec grease made by Shell. Wonder if anyone with a Marshall Archive could find that... Allan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090815/296cf687/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] update on repair advice
I just removed the thermostat again and I noticed that the lip (the housing is plastic and is integrated into the intake manifold) was cracked and broken. I tried to fill it up with coolant and when I started it up it immeadiately started dumping the coolant from the intake. Conclusion: catastrophic failure of the plastic manifold. This was a known problem with this engine and Ford has a campaign to replace it free of charge. Mine qualifies on mileage but is out on time/age. I guess I am going to get to learn how to do this repair. Damn! Donald H Snook McDonald Tinker Law Firm (316) 263-5851 www.mtsqh.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] update on repair advice
Donald Snook wrote: I just removed the thermostat again and I noticed that the lip (the housing is plastic and is integrated into the intake manifold) was cracked and broken. I tried to fill it up with coolant and when I started it up it immeadiately started dumping the coolant from the intake. At least when my GM 2.4 TwinCam started dumping from a decayed plastic water outlet, a new Delco outlet is only about $30 and easy to replace, takes longer to drain/refill coolant than to replace the outlet. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Crankshaft sensor woes
My crankshaft sensor at the back of the engine is bad. No big deal, just remove the allen bolt and pop it off. Well, it did pop off but only the top half. The other half is stuck in the mounting assembly. No big deal, just remove the mounting assembly... oops I have to remove the transmission to get to the mounting bolts. Let's think of another idea... try pulling it out with 90 deg. pliers... nope... try lubing it and pulling with pliers again... oops broke more of the plastic that is stuck in the mounting assembly. Does anyone have any other suggestions before I remove the transmission? (87 420 SEL)Thanks, Ken -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090815/dd34a43d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Repair advice needed
Does your GM have the PLASTIC crossover on the intake manifold? If so, that is probably the culprit. They went from the aluminum crossover to plastic in '96 or '97. I've BTDT with our '97 Crown Vic. The good news is that this leakage does not go into the engine. Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics '97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:39 AM To: Mitch Haley Cc: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Repair advice needed It was definitely low on coolant. I took the thermostat out again and filled the coolant that. It took more than two gallons! Once I got it filled back up, the temp went way down, but on the test run it kept leaking and got hot agdin. I am REALLY hoping it's not the intake manifold. I did check the oil and if it is the intake it is leaking externally because if it is was dumping the coolant into the engine that fast, I should have seen lots of coolant in the oil. Donald H Snook McDonald Tinker Law Firm (316) 263-5851 www.mtsqh.com On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Donald Snook wrote: My grand marquis is overheating. My first thought when turning the heat on doesn't work is uh-oh, I'm out of coolant That would also explain the radiator being cold on the outlet side, too little coolant flow. Let's take lack of coolant flow as a given. I can come up with three explanations. I'm thinking it's either your WP, coolant level, or t-stat. But if your t-stat were stuck shut with good water pump and coolant level, the heat should be able to melt your dashboard. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Repair advice needed
Does your GM have the PLASTIC crossover on the intake manifold? If so, that is probably the culprit. They went from the aluminum crossover to plastic in '96 or '97. I've BTDT with our '97 Crown Vic. Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics '97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 6:39 AM To: Mitch Haley Cc: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Repair advice needed It was definitely low on coolant. I took the thermostat out again and filled the coolant that. It took more than two gallons! Once I got it filled back up, the temp went way down, but on the test run it kept leaking and got hot agdin. I am REALLY hoping it's not the intake manifold. I did check the oil and if it is the intake it is leaking externally because if it is was dumping the coolant into the engine that fast, I should have seen lots of coolant in the oil. Donald H Snook McDonald Tinker Law Firm (316) 263-5851 www.mtsqh.com On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Donald Snook wrote: My grand marquis is overheating. My first thought when turning the heat on doesn't work is uh-oh, I'm out of coolant That would also explain the radiator being cold on the outlet side, too little coolant flow. Let's take lack of coolant flow as a given. I can come up with three explanations. I'm thinking it's either your WP, coolant level, or t-stat. But if your t-stat were stuck shut with good water pump and coolant level, the heat should be able to melt your dashboard. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] update on repair advice
from my research on this the Dorman is the one to buy. I was lucky enough to find someone selling a good used one on CrownVic.net. I also bought the new gasket set from Rock Auto, a good source of parts for US cars. I found a local mechanic willing to do the work with my parts, and the total cost came out to about $500 for parts, labor and stuff. Other local indy shops wanted about $1300!! Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics '97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:32 AM To: Mercedes Subject: Re: [MBZ] update on repair advice I just removed the thermostat again and I noticed that the lip (the housing is plastic and is integrated into the intake manifold) was cracked and broken. I tried to fill it up with coolant and when I started it up it immeadiately started dumping the coolant from the intake. Conclusion: catastrophic failure of the plastic manifold. This was a known problem with this engine and Ford has a campaign to replace it free of charge. Mine qualifies on mileage but is out on time/age. I guess I am going to get to learn how to do this repair. Damn! Donald H Snook McDonald Tinker Law Firm (316) 263-5851 www.mtsqh.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft sensor woes
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:47:25 -0400 Ken Rushing ken.rush...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any other suggestions before I remove the transmission? (87 420 SEL)Thanks, Ken Nope, sorry. You do have my sympathies, though. I'm still trying to get the power steering bracket off our '94 E420. Hmmm ... 420SEL, E420 ... any coincidence they're hard to work on? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Repair advice needed
With that much leakage, you should be able to see where it's going --- since it's not going into the oil. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: It was definitely low on coolant. I took the thermostat out again and filled the coolant that. It took more than two gallons! Once I got it filled back up, the temp went way down, but on the test run it kept leaking and got hot agdin. I am REALLY hoping it's not the intake manifold. I did check the oil and if it is the intake it is leaking externally because if it is was dumping the coolant into the engine that fast, I should have seen lots of coolant in the oil. Donald H Snook McDonald Tinker Law Firm (316) 263-5851 www.mtsqh.com On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Donald Snook wrote: My grand marquis is overheating. My first thought when turning the heat on doesn't work is uh-oh, I'm out of coolant That would also explain the radiator being cold on the outlet side, too little coolant flow. Let's take lack of coolant flow as a given. I can come up with three explanations. I'm thinking it's either your WP, coolant level, or t-stat. But if your t-stat were stuck shut with good water pump and coolant level, the heat should be able to melt your dashboard. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090815/6a1eead7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease
Good way to unseal the seals -- pushing excess grease out through them. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: easiest way is to fit a grease nipple to the hub dust cap and then pump grease into it until comes out the other side. Hendrik -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090815/8b5ce42e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft sensor woes
I have the same dilemma as you all. My 190E2.3 has 2 sensors -- one front and one back. I have to take the fan, belt, and tension pulley off before I can access it and replace it with a good one. So far, I have done this removing tension pulley about 4 times this month. The last time I did it was yesterday for the sensor and my hand is burn from the belt. Now for the back, I tried looking for the wire but somehow it submerged into behind and on somewhere near the top of the transmission. I cannot even find the sensor. And now, I broken one important part along the way back to Rusty to get the part. K.S. - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft sensor woes On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:47:25 -0400 Ken Rushing ken.rush...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any other suggestions before I remove the transmission? (87 420 SEL)Thanks, Ken Nope, sorry. You do have my sympathies, though. I'm still trying to get the power steering bracket off our '94 E420. Hmmm ... 420SEL, E420 ... any coincidence they're hard to work on? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft sensor woes
ken.rush...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have any other suggestions before I remove the transmission? (87 420 SEL)Thanks, Ken Nope, sorry. You do have my sympathies, though. I'm still trying to get the power steering bracket off our '94 E420. Hmmm ... 420SEL, E420 ... any coincidence they're hard to work on? Craig - Did you try Rust Eater from Autozone? I've used it alternately with WD-40 with some success. It's the only solvent I've found which actually dissolves rust. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cookies
Yep Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cookies Who left? Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left. On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:39 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Cookies was a commie? On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Rusty Cullens ru...@buymbparts.com wrote: No, left. Rusty Cullens -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090814/95d4eeb6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- The young officer thought it very odd that his captain seemed to trust and confide in his chiefs more than his wardroom, but mustang officers had their own ways. -- Tom Clancy, Clear and Present Danger. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090814/dfb3ad68/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft sensor woes
archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes: Did you try Rust Eater from Autozone? I've used it alternately with WD-40 with some success. It's the only solvent I've found which actually dissolves rust. I've also heard that ATF mixed with acetone works well -- but be careful of any sparks. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft sensor woes
I've also heard that ATF mixed with acetone works well -- but be careful of any sparks. Allan -- 1983 300D - I have both on the shelf. I'll have to try it. Thanks, Gerry - archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes: Did you try Rust Eater from Autozone? I've used it alternately with WD-40 with some success. It's the only solvent I've found which actually dissolves rust. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Repair advice needed
It is the crossover that is the part that cracks. The crack is normally behind the alternator in the valley of the V. I think the stress of the alternator mount is what eventually causes this breakage. So this part of the manifold has no direct connection to the cylinders or oil, only the coolant. Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics '97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 12:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Repair advice needed With that much leakage, you should be able to see where it's going --- since it's not going into the oil. On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: It was definitely low on coolant. I took the thermostat out again and filled the coolant that. It took more than two gallons! Once I got it filled back up, the temp went way down, but on the test run it kept leaking and got hot agdin. I am REALLY hoping it's not the intake manifold. I did check the oil and if it is the intake it is leaking externally because if it is was dumping the coolant into the engine that fast, I should have seen lots of coolant in the oil. Donald H Snook McDonald Tinker Law Firm (316) 263-5851 www.mtsqh.com On Aug 14, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Donald Snook wrote: My grand marquis is overheating. My first thought when turning the heat on doesn't work is uh-oh, I'm out of coolant That would also explain the radiator being cold on the outlet side, too little coolant flow. Let's take lack of coolant flow as a given. I can come up with three explanations. I'm thinking it's either your WP, coolant level, or t-stat. But if your t-stat were stuck shut with good water pump and coolant level, the heat should be able to melt your dashboard. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090815/6a 1eead7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft sensor woes
Ken, et al. Corkscrew? Fred Clueless Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred At 12:47 PM 8/15/2009, you wrote: My crankshaft sensor at the back of the engine is bad again... oops broke more of the plastic that is stuck in the mounting assembly. Does anyone have any other suggestions before I remove the transmission? (87 420 SEL)Thanks, Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: Drone controllers - With Attachment
The controllers are in Nevada! Each one flying a drone thousands of miles away in the combat zone. The left hand is on the throttle controlling the drone's engine. Note all the buttons which perform various tasks without removing the hand from the throttle. The right hand is flying the plane. Kill a Taliban leader in the air conditioned comfort of the office, then go home for dinner! Welcome to the new world order. This is modern warfare! Today's headline: 'Missiles fired from Nevada controlled drone aircraft kill Taliban leader! Watch how it's done. Comment? Gerry -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090815/e856a852/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Drone-Controllers.wmv Type: video/x-ms-wmv Size: 5396613 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090815/e856a852/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Nice rust-free W114 looking for a good home
Gang, Was drawn to the San José pick-n-pull today by a Craigslist ad for a 1970 220 (gas). The car interior is perfect (no cracks, tears, carpets are all perfect, seat belts, everything), blower motor works fine. No A/C. Stromberg carb. Engine runs but needs a fuel pump (after 40 years the diaphragm is probably shot). Original Becker AM radio. The car lived its life in Palo Alto and was clearly well taken care-of. Mileage is about 140,000. It has gone over 100, but it has not gone over 200. No body rust. I went under it. I dug through the trunk, lifted floor mats, looked at the rockers. Everything is perfect. Apart from the rear-passenger fender, all of the paint on the car appears to be original. There's no evidence of a re-spray, unless they did a complete removal of all of the seals/glass etc. The paint is chalky but there seems to be pleny left; enough to polish it back up. They are trying to sell the car because it is too nice to crush. They said it has already sat around too long without selling; that's why they posted it to CL and apparently to another MB list to try to move it. My problem is that I already have too many cars. Someone should do us all a favour (especially me) and save this car. They want $750 but I imagine they'd take less. Here is the ad: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/ctd/1321739444.html Somebody save me from getting another MB! D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 201 shift rod needed
Does anybody have a shift rod from a 201 sitting around? Im working on this 190D that had the blown out missing flex disk, and the shift rod is MIA. I do not have anything in my stock that will work, apparently its a 201 thing only. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] anybody need any 123 coupe parts?
Kaleb, I have an 85 300CD that is in need of a working window actuator mechanism. The current one is making dents in the botttom door sheet metal inside pushing out. Do you have an estimate of what one would be. Bob Massmann Oregonia Ohio 95 E300 diesel 275K 85 300CD 328K - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: [MBZ] anybody need any 123 coupe parts? Original Message Subject: Mercedes Benz Parts Available (LKQ Self Service) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:42:49 -0700 (PDT) From: ka...@striplin.net To: ka...@striplin.net ka...@striplin.net has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Mercedes Benz Parts Available Reply to: sale-vgtf9-1305196...@craigslist.org Date: 2009-08-04, 10:19AM LKQ Self Service 3112 North Peoria Tulsa, OK 74106 918-794-7846 We just added two older Mercedez Benz cars to our inventory. The first one is a 82 230CE model and the second is a 79 280CE model. Everything is first come first serve, you will need to bring your tools to pull the parts. Please give us a call if you need a price quoted for a specific part. Everything we sell comes with a 30 day warranty and we have the best prices and selection in town. Our business hours are: Mon - Fri 9am - 6pm Sat - Sun 8am - 6pm * Location: LKQ Self Service * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://tulsa.craigslist.org/pts/1305196542.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: / http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/sF2aAJWZyR3csBXau4Wa0VmbN -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090804/b9b96628/attachment.html -- next part -- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Attached Message Part URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090804/b9b96628/attachment.pl ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 shift rod needed
I'm almost certain I have this from the 190E I parted out. Will let you know for sure tomorrow. Chris 126.120.161734 394Kkm Wulf --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] 201 shift rod needed To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com, davesl...@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 9:16 PM Does anybody have a shift rod from a 201 sitting around? Im working on this 190D that had the blown out missing flex disk, and the shift rod is MIA. I do not have anything in my stock that will work, apparently its a 201 thing only. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Drone controllers - With Attachment
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 11:54:52 -0400 archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The controllers are in Nevada! Each one flying a drone thousands of miles away in the combat zone. Yup, they're in Indian Springs. I've driven by them on the way from Las Vegas to Mercury. Name: Drone-Controllers.wmv I'm glad Kaleb's system kept the original title. I wouldn't have known what to do with it otherwise. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IR temp meter
archer wrote: P.S. What's a brand/source for an infrared thermometer? Flukes are available for around $100 but I seem to remember a discussion about cheaper ones that also worked well. The good ones have the option to change the emissivity setting. I have a cheap one, a Raytech minitemp that is preset to 0.95 emissivity only. That means if what I'm pointing it at is not flat black (to IR), the reading could be off. A laser guide point can be helpful. Mine does not have that feature - but I'm usually looking for either the warmest or the coldest temp so I just move it around until I see a peak or dip. Mine can switch from F to C with a slide switch next to the battery. Oh, distance to spot ratio is another variable. Many of the small ones are like 4:1 - which means if you want to measure a small spot you have to get the thermometer close. My Raytech is 10:1, which is pretty decent in my experience. --Philip ___ Hi Phillip, Rayteks are probably as good as Flukes since they are a Fluke owned company, but I couldn't find any Rayteks at a price as low as Flukes 561 ($150) for those which have adjustable emissivity. Glad you mentioned that because it looks like a useful feature since I do a lot more in the shop besides auto repair. However, the 561 only has three emissivity settings: (0.3, 0.7, 0.95). Will that cover about any situation? I haven't checked the settings on more expensive models but the prices get rapidly out of my range after the 561. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IR temp meter
Thanks, Scott. If I could get to the Harbor Freight store that Manfred suggested, I would get one of those; but the same thing plus freight is about $35-40 on the net. Thinking about getting a better one that will do several thing. You can plug a probe into the one I'm looking at (Fluke 561) and stick it in food I suppose. That couldn't do anything but improve this widowers horrible cooking. (grin) Gerry -- From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com I have a cheapie (like $20 with laser) from Harbor Freight that has always worked pretty well for me except on galvanized metal (flu pipe) where it read the surface reflected from the galv. Probably other shiny metals would do the same thing. So I stuck a piece of tape on the pipe and read that. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 18:04 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] IR temp meter archer wrote: P.S. What's a brand/source for an infrared thermometer? Flukes are available for around $100 but I seem to remember a discussion about cheaper ones that also worked well. The good ones have the option to change the emissivity setting. I have a cheap one, a Raytech minitemp that is preset to 0.95 emissivity only. That means if what I'm pointing it at is not flat black (to IR), the reading could be off. A laser guide point can be helpful. Mine does not have that feature - but I'm usually looking for either the warmest or the coldest temp so I just move it around until I see a peak or dip. Mine can switch from F to C with a slide switch next to the battery. Oh, distance to spot ratio is another variable. Many of the small ones are like 4:1 - which means if you want to measure a small spot you have to get the thermometer close. My Raytech is 10:1, which is pretty decent in my experience. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.56/2302 - Release Date: 08/14/09 06:10:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease
ned kleinhenz wrote: I learned from Marshal to use a very specific amount of grease per bearing. The empty space not filled with grease is important for circulating the grease within the assembly. Yup. That's what I understand too. And I've seen the evidence that it really does circulate. Also, in my experience, one tube of MB special grease is exactly enough for two wheels. Close. The manual (33-320) says 60 g per wheel bearing. The tube has 150 g. So make sure you are a little bit messy and waste 15 g of grease per side. But my original questions still stands. Is there another source or another part number for a large quantity of grease? 500 g would be nice. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com