Re: [MBZ] Back to 115 headlights again
THere ya go guys! Those are great. I have used the 7 ones for years. (and for hurst, no, I didn't buy them from Rusty, I think he was still playing with Tonka trucks when I bought the first pair) They will work with any model including R107 up to 123 and 116. Randy, if you have US type replaceable 7 bulbs, these should work for you. I have Hella non sealed beams that come with H-4 bulbs. The 5 3/4 high and hi-low are $69.00 each. The 7 are $76.00. These are made in GERMANY. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Back to 115 headlights again Original US spec lamps are sealed beam. The rest of the world got halogen bulbs in reflectors with a fog lamp in the bottom and the turn signal on top. If you have replaceable bulbs in a reflector, you probably have euro spec headlights (very desirable). However, you may have the wrong bulb, or the reflectors may be in very poor shape. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Back to 115 headlights again
Dieselhead wrote: THere ya go guys! Those are great. I have used the 7 ones for years. (and for hurst, no, I didn't buy them from Rusty, I think he was still playing with Tonka trucks when I bought the first pair) They will work with any model including R107 up to 123 and 116. Methinks you need 5 3/4 for W116 and R/C107. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] project 240D
in europe they started in 76 TE wrote: W123 body style ran from 1977 to 1985. It was preceded by the W114/W115 and was replaced by the W124 in 1986. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cars for Sale
Greeting's All: I'm trying to find a good home for TWO 123 chassis vehicles. I can provide all the info but was curious if I can post anything on your website...I didn't see a classified section. The quick story on these rust free California cars is as follows: 1983 300TD Blue with Blue interior. 310K miles. Car is in good condition and would be a decent daily driver. Price is approx.$3200.00 1985 300D Burgundy with Beige MB Tex. 135Kmiles. this car is a keeper. Straight and all doors close tight. Dash is good except for 2 tiny cracks beginning at the usual speaker locations. $5000.00 one person owns both vehicles and they are at my mechanic's shop here in Burbank, CA. The mechanic will stand behind the vehicles and provide full disclosure of any necessary mechanicals coming 'down the pike'. My involvement is only as a person who has some time and loves these cars and desires that they go to a good home(s). Let me know if you can help me find homes for these cars. All the best, Eric ps- If anyone is serious about either of these vehicles, they may email me directly at eos...@gmail.com -- Eric Schusterman ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac Starting Point?
many many many years ago, i had a job. i worked for xerox and the desktop system was their proprietary system. it was darn good and very very mac On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 7:27 AM, L Mark Finch mfi...@katzenfinch.comwrote: True enough. But Apple stole the GUI and mouse idea from Xerox PARC. On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Not just DOJ: Without Apple, the M$ world would still be typing in command line stuff in MS-Dos 26.3.4 by now! Where do you think M$ gets ideas to steal? Apple is the RD dept for M$. Whatever a Mac does now, winders will do in 1-5 years. It makde sense for gates to actually pay for a little of his RD. Back in the 90's, Microsoft bailed out Apple to the tune of a couple hundred million dollars. Gates was probably bright enough to see that Apple, even with single-digit market share, kept the DOJ off his back. Conspiracy theorists claim there was a under-the-table deal that Apple not sell their OS against Windows. I see no other reason that Apple would not market their OS to some of the 100 million PCs out there now running Windows. -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Erl?
rem oil is so much better On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:37 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't one of the main componenets of WD40 parafin? I wouldn't want that in my crankcase. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I coated my bicycle with it once when I was a youth. We didn't have anyplace convenient inside to keep it so I figured if it had to stay outside it'd be at least a little protected. Seemed like it helped so I did it every year... I bet if you had a badly sludged engine and took out the plugs, filled it with WD40, cranked it for 30-40 seconds, drained it and refilled with engine oil it'd probably be beneficial. Not more beneficial than the same thing with kerosene which would be a lot cheaper... -Curt -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars for Sale
I wonder if that '85 takes the $80 air filter http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/hires/W01331621190MAH.JPG or the $20 air filter http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/hires/W01331631893MAN.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D
The flashing test lamp may have been a false alarm of my own making. I just went out to the car, fully closed hood, trunk, doors, etc., and cycled the driver and front passenger locks with the key and tried the test lamp twice. It doesn't flash now. Conclusion: even with fuse 12 (alarm system) removed, something in the alarm system evidently was causing the flashing test lamp. I had discounted that originally because fuse 12 is removed - alarm disabled. I had left hood ajar last couple of days, and the alarm evidently was trying to alarm me, anyway. 'Still have steady, bright test lamp with fuse C, though. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D Yes, the test lamp flashes like a hazard light or turn signal. The alarm was my first thought, too, but fuse 12 (the alarm system) has been removed (system disabled) since before I got the car 5+ years ago. I've never had fuse 12 installed. Could something in the alarm system be doing this with the system disabled in such a manner? The test lamp does not illuminate at all (no steady light/no flashing) with fuse 9 (hazard, courtesy lamps, etc.) removed. And again, test lamp is steady bright with fuse C installed. Test lamp is significantly dimmer but flashing with fuse C removed and fuse 9 installed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D You're saying that the test lamp flashes _like_ a hazard light? It's probably the car alarm, which is trying to light the headlights and honk its auxiliary horn through your test lamp. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D
With most of the newer type cars, you can't just connect the test light in series with the battery. You have to connect the battery in such a way that after the system 'settles' you can disconnect it in a way that the current then flows through the test light, without any interruptions. I do it by holding the battery clamp against the post, with the test light (or ammeter) on the post and on the clamp. Then I pull the clamp away from the post, making sure the other two connections are steady. Things like the antenna want to auto-park when first powered on, and if they can't get enough juice they get weird. (CD transports too.) By feeding full power at first they go through their reset cycles and then go quiescent, if they're going to. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Back to 115 headlights again
I took a look when I got home last night and was surprised by the answer. My headlights say Volvo and H4 so, I am assuming some previous owner has swapped some lamps from a Volvo onto this car. Anyone out there with experience with old round Volvo lamps? Do I want to swap these to something else? Or is my gain going to be minimal for the extra cost? I could try refocusing the existing fog lamps somewhat or put a set of the smaller aftermarket lamps under the front bumper I guess. Not sure I like the look of that however. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Back to 115 headlights again That is, that the difference between high and low beams is too much and I do not have sufficient light on low beams for highway travel. A set of auxiliary driving lamps would serve you well. Adjust the lows as you want them, and accept that the highs are a bit too high. Point the auxiliary lamps in the correct direction. I actually leave the aux highs on the Frankenheap a bit wonky, as that serves the main deer-finding purpose quite a bit better than a long straight laser out the front would. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Admin, lists down
I have messages from some time prior to 9 AM right through the day. If you were down, it must not have been for long - Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:09 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Admin, lists down 2 or 3 digests came through including the one that had this message... Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:33:43 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Banned List ban...@okiebenz.com, mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com, SL Discussion List s...@okiebenz.com, Mercedes-Benz Veterans List v...@okiebenz.com, Biodiesel Discussion List biodie...@okiebenz.com, Linux Discussion List li...@okiebenz.com, davesl...@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Admin, lists down Message-ID: 4b303007.30...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed As you may have noticed, all of the mail servers were down today. We had completely run out of server space and there was physically no room for more mail to come in. I am currently in the process of cleaning out old crap and upgrading the server space. If there is something you have sent to the lists that has bounced back, please resend it if you want to. Thanks -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac Starting Point?
the MacIntels have been out for at least a few years; this is one of them. as for not able to update, i don't know if that's an issue; my point was that i don't get Security Updates by the handful with this MacBook like i do with my Windoze machines. (looking at the update records for the MacBook i'm on right now, it shows a total of 26 updates after 3 years (including updates to iTunes and Java, etc.,...). by comparison, i recently saw update alerts on one of our PCs where it wanted to do 2 Critical Updates. after doing those and rebooting, it wanted *8* more. after doing those and rebooting, it wanted yet another! seems almost every time i start up one of the Windoze machines it wants updates, and it can't even get them all at once. cheers! e Curt Raymond wrote: I'm trying to remember when the Intel Macs came out, you might not be able to update... Windows has more updates? No man, not even slightly... Apple releases an OS update at least monthly, how else would you explain 10.4.11 that was running on the G5 in my classroom before it quit. If you add in Quicktime updates (since Quicktime is really part of the OS) its more like every other week. -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:41:23 -0800 From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac Starting Point? Message-ID: 4b3007a3.9020...@backyardengineering.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed hi Curt! $139? for what? i haven't had to pay anything yet, and this machine is ~3 years old already. great hardware? i wanted to believe that too,... on this same MacBook i've been through a fan failure, a screen failure, and a Hard Disk Drive failure in less than 3 years. it's nice to not have to be assaulted with constant updates like Windoze gives you, but the Macs aren't as faultless as the Appleheads might have you believe. cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac Starting Point?
You can't get them all at once because Microsoft never changes an update once it is released. You have download the update, then update the update, then update the update that updated the update. Makes perfect sense - NOT! Service Packs are just a consolidation of all updates they think are important at a given point in time. Oh, and those never get changed once they are released either - which causes the same vicious circle to start all over again... -Dave Walton On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:00 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: the MacIntels have been out for at least a few years; this is one of them. as for not able to update, i don't know if that's an issue; my point was that i don't get Security Updates by the handful with this MacBook like i do with my Windoze machines. (looking at the update records for the MacBook i'm on right now, it shows a total of 26 updates after 3 years (including updates to iTunes and Java, etc.,...). by comparison, i recently saw update alerts on one of our PCs where it wanted to do 2 Critical Updates. after doing those and rebooting, it wanted *8* more. after doing those and rebooting, it wanted yet another! seems almost every time i start up one of the Windoze machines it wants updates, and it can't even get them all at once. cheers! e Curt Raymond wrote: I'm trying to remember when the Intel Macs came out, you might not be able to update... Windows has more updates? No man, not even slightly... Apple releases an OS update at least monthly, how else would you explain 10.4.11 that was running on the G5 in my classroom before it quit. If you add in Quicktime updates (since Quicktime is really part of the OS) its more like every other week. -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:41:23 -0800 From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac Starting Point? Message-ID: 4b3007a3.9020...@backyardengineering.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed hi Curt! $139? for what? i haven't had to pay anything yet, and this machine is ~3 years old already. great hardware? i wanted to believe that too,... on this same MacBook i've been through a fan failure, a screen failure, and a Hard Disk Drive failure in less than 3 years. it's nice to not have to be assaulted with constant updates like Windoze gives you, but the Macs aren't as faultless as the Appleheads might have you believe. cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac Starting Point?
Microsoft typically releases updates on (I think) the first tuesday of every month. For very critical security problems they have been known to make an exception, but it's rare. Depending on whether your computer is set to auto-update silently or only with your permission this can be almost imperceptable to quite annoying. I'm not sure whether Apple has a formal schedule like that; from experience it seems more like they release updates as needed. On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:47 -0500, dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote: You can't get them all at once because Microsoft never changes an update once it is released. You have download the update, then update the update, then update the update that updated the update. Makes perfect sense - NOT! Service Packs are just a consolidation of all updates they think are important at a given point in time. Oh, and those never get changed once they are released either - which causes the same vicious circle to start all over again... -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Mac Starting Point?
Back a few years ago, it was not unusual that an automatic update broke things. I recall one particularly nasty one that killed 2000 Server dead. Microsoft pulled it, but not until after 1000's of servers had to be loaded. The last few years have been trouble free with updates (as much as Windows can be), but I still don't automatically apply any updates. Windows-7 now automatically updates everything including non-microsoft software and hardware (if the manufacturer pays microsoft for the service I suspect). Earlier this week the firmware in my ATI Digital Cable Tuner got one and dropped the show it was recording - nice feature :-( -Dave Walton On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Microsoft typically releases updates on (I think) the first tuesday of every month. For very critical security problems they have been known to make an exception, but it's rare. Depending on whether your computer is set to auto-update silently or only with your permission this can be almost imperceptable to quite annoying. I'm not sure whether Apple has a formal schedule like that; from experience it seems more like they release updates as needed. On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:47 -0500, dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote: You can't get them all at once because Microsoft never changes an update once it is released. You have download the update, then update the update, then update the update that updated the update. Makes perfect sense - NOT! Service Packs are just a consolidation of all updates they think are important at a given point in time. Oh, and those never get changed once they are released either - which causes the same vicious circle to start all over again... -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] output?
...The metal tape fix has you buff the stuff. Not sure if it made shiny, but it would have increased my output.. Plz don't increase your output. My ears are ringing as it is. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D
Antenna is unplugged/disconnected; bulbs have been removed from trunk, rear roof and driver door lights; 'still have bright, steady test lamp with fuse C installed. 'Quit messing with it when I got cold and tired. 'Try some more (other door lights, central and rear door locking systems, seat adjust memory,. etc., tomorrow. Where are plugs for disconnecting the locking systems and seat adjust memory? Does this 124 have a locking system pump in the trunk like that in my 126? Meanwhile, I'll see what I can find on the CD, of course. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D The flashing test lamp may have been a false alarm of my own making. I just went out to the car, fully closed hood, trunk, doors, etc., and cycled the driver and front passenger locks with the key and tried the test lamp twice. It doesn't flash now. Conclusion: even with fuse 12 (alarm system) removed, something in the alarm system evidently was causing the flashing test lamp. I had discounted that originally because fuse 12 is removed - alarm disabled. I had left hood ajar last couple of days, and the alarm evidently was trying to alarm me, anyway. 'Still have steady, bright test lamp with fuse C, though. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D Yes, the test lamp flashes like a hazard light or turn signal. The alarm was my first thought, too, but fuse 12 (the alarm system) has been removed (system disabled) since before I got the car 5+ years ago. I've never had fuse 12 installed. Could something in the alarm system be doing this with the system disabled in such a manner? The test lamp does not illuminate at all (no steady light/no flashing) with fuse 9 (hazard, courtesy lamps, etc.) removed. And again, test lamp is steady bright with fuse C installed. Test lamp is significantly dimmer but flashing with fuse C removed and fuse 9 installed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D You're saying that the test lamp flashes _like_ a hazard light? It's probably the car alarm, which is trying to light the headlights and honk its auxiliary horn through your test lamp. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [Fwd: Today's Gasoline Prices]
** ** ** * **** * * *** United States *** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ***** ** ** ** ** * RETAIL GASOLINE: (Self Service Prices per Gallon, Including Taxes) This report contains price estimates for gasoline sold in ozone non-attainment areas which require the sale of reformulated gasoline (RFG) as designated by the Environmental Protection Agency, and Conventional areas which includes both attainment areas and carbon monoxide non-attainment areas. Mogas web site url http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/fwd/wrgp.html --- 2009 --- Date11/2 11/9 11/16 11/23 11/3012/7 12/14 12/21 National Price - All Grades Average 2.746 2.720 2.684 2.694 2.684 2.689 2.655 2.645 Conventional Areas 2.710 2.678 2.638 2.655 2.646 2.653 2.613 2.599 RFG Areas 2.822 2.805 2.778 2.773 2.763 2.763 2.742 2.739 National Price - Regular Average 2.694 2.666 2.629 2.639 2.629 2.634 2.599 2.589 Conventional Areas 2.660 2.627 2.585 2.603 2.594 2.601 2.560 2.546 RFG Areas 2.766 2.748 2.720 2.714 2.704 2.703 2.681 2.679 National Price - Midgrade Average 2.812 2.787 2.755 2.764 2.754 2.761 2.727 2.717 Conventional Areas 2.764 2.733 2.697 2.713 2.704 2.715 2.672 2.658 RFG Areas 2.907 2.891 2.867 2.862 2.851 2.851 2.835 2.829 National Price - Premium Average 2.930 2.908 2.877 2.883 2.875 2.882 2.849 2.839 Conventional Areas 2.897 2.871 2.835 2.846 2.840 2.849 2.809 2.796 RFG Areas 2.991 2.977 2.955 2.951 2.941 2.942 2.925 2.918 ++ All GradesDate11/2 11/9 11/16 11/23 11/3012/7 12/14 12/21 ++ PADD 1 - East Coast Average 2.743 2.731 2.705 2.704 2.701 2.713 2.684 2.664 Conventional Areas 2.750 2.734 2.704 2.705 2.701 2.717 2.682 2.661 RFG Areas 2.733 2.725 2.708 2.703 2.702 2.707 2.687 2.669 PADD 1a - New England Average 2.750 2.742 2.730 2.725 2.719 2.728 2.703 2.682 Conventional Areas 2.782 2.773 2.764 2.766 2.758 2.762 2.738 2.705 RFG Areas 2.742 2.735 2.721 2.714 2.710 2.719 2.694 2.676 PADD 1b - Central Atlantic Average 2.777 2.772 2.755 2.748 2.743 2.753 2.727 2.706 Conventional Areas 2.841 2.837 2.823 2.810 2.795 2.816 2.778 2.754 RFG Areas 2.737 2.731 2.713 2.710 2.711 2.713 2.696 2.677 PADD 1c - Lower Atlantic Average 2.717 2.697 2.661 2.666 2.665 2.680 2.647 2.628 Conventional Areas 2.720 2.700 2.663 2.669 2.668 2.683 2.649 2.630 RFG Areas 2.684 2.664 2.641 2.637 2.633 2.640 2.625 2.611 PADD 2 - Midwest Average 2.705 2.648 2.579 2.616 2.604 2.601 2.550 2.560 Conventional Areas 2.691 2.635 2.567 2.607 2.595 2.594 2.542 2.547 RFG Areas 2.796 2.729 2.653 2.676 2.661 2.648 2.608 2.642 PADD 3 - Gulf Coast Average 2.619 2.586 2.557 2.566 2.555 2.575 2.532 2.502 Conventional Areas 2.624 2.592 2.565 2.576 2.564 2.586 2.541 2.509 RFG Areas 2.603 2.566 2.531 2.532 2.523 2.538 2.499 2.479 PADD 4 - Rocky Mountain Conventional Areas 2.653 2.651 2.649 2.632 2.619 2.606 2.586 2.553 PADD 5 - West Coast Average 2.960 2.957 2.944 2.932 2.916 2.911 2.900 2.898 Conventional Areas 2.861 2.860 2.861 2.866 2.859 2.857 2.842 2.820 RFG Areas 3.001 2.996 2.977 2.959 2.939 2.933 2.923 2.930 PADD 5b - West Coast less CA Average 2.820 2.823 2.823 2.828 2.817 2.819 2.800 2.782 Conventional Areas 2.861 2.860 2.861 2.866 2.859 2.857 2.842 2.820 RFG Areas 2.626 2.642 2.639 2.645 2.617 2.639 2.602 2.603 California RFG Areas 3.036 3.029 3.009 2.989 2.969 2.961 2.953 2.960 Colorado Conventional Areas 2.637 2.620 2.591 2.572 2.555 2.549 2.528 2.496 Florida Conventional Areas 2.788 2.761 2.736 2.728 2.724 2.743 2.694 2.689 Massachusetts RFG Areas 2.688 2.685 2.673 2.658 2.655 2.663 2.645 2.627 Minnesota Conventional Areas 2.702 2.663 2.618 2.616 2.580 2.551 2.519 2.529 New York State Average 2.907 2.916 2.905 2.907 2.899 2.908 2.889 2.874 Conventional Areas 2.891 2.899 2.883 2.892 2.870 2.893 2.869 2.851 RFG Areas
[MBZ] [Fwd: Today's Diesel Prices]
** ** ** * **** * * *** United States *** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ***** ** ** ** ** * On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 091221 2.726 2.740 2.853 2.841 2.687 2.708 2.680 2.740 2.825 2.891 091214 2.748 2.769 2.870 2.868 2.717 2.720 2.699 2.783 2.855 2.915 091207 2.772 2.792 2.874 2.896 2.740 2.742 2.726 2.806 2.884 2.942 091130 2.775 2.792 2.869 2.900 2.738 2.748 2.724 2.817 2.888 2.948 091123 2.787 2.803 2.868 2.907 2.753 2.762 2.738 2.825 2.896 2.954 091116 2.790 2.808 2.868 2.912 2.759 2.769 2.733 2.820 2.899 2.964 091109 2.801 2.821 2.866 2.926 2.772 2.779 2.746 2.823 2.909 2.972 091102 2.808 2.834 2.878 2.940 2.785 2.786 2.749 2.810 2.910 2.974 091026 2.801 2.819 2.843 2.923 2.773 2.790 2.740 2.776 2.904 2.968 091019 2.705 2.716 2.752 2.831 2.664 2.693 2.644 2.704 2.822 2.874 091012 2.600 2.610 2.690 2.723 2.554 2.581 2.530 2.650 2.732 2.791 091005 2.582 2.586 2.686 2.698 2.529 2.561 2.518 2.645 2.722 2.792 090928 2.601 2.607 2.703 2.714 2.552 2.585 2.525 2.658 2.742 2.807 090921 2.622 2.631 2.708 2.738 2.578 2.598 2.542 2.678 2.783 2.827 090914 2.634 2.650 2.720 2.755 2.599 2.607 2.555 2.683 2.795 2.847 090907 2.647 2.658 2.729 2.768 2.604 2.628 2.575 2.682 2.786 2.866 090831 2.674 2.691 2.742 2.779 2.649 2.649 2.618 2.692 2.802 2.893 090824 2.668 2.692 2.741 2.781 2.649 2.637 2.622 2.671 2.785 2.880 090817 2.652 2.687 2.739 2.771 2.646 2.623 2.607 2.633 2.744 2.872 090810 2.625 2.665 2.701 2.755 2.624 2.601 2.581 2.573 2.700 2.842 090803 2.550 2.579 2.637 2.671 2.535 2.520 2.513 2.537 2.643 2.763 090727 2.528 2.550 2.613 2.643 2.505 2.500 2.493 2.540 2.617 2.720 090720 2.496 2.514 2.600 2.630 2.456 2.470 2.443 2.559 2.595 2.703 090713 2.542 2.559 2.623 2.663 2.508 2.512 2.494 2.619 2.641 2.727 090706 2.594 2.609 2.656 2.714 2.560 2.565 2.547 2.648 2.706 2.787 090629 2.608 2.629 2.666 2.726 2.584 2.578 2.569 2.631 2.712 2.785 090622 2.616 2.634 2.670 2.730 2.590 2.587 2.583 2.614 2.720 2.789 090615 2.572 2.601 2.651 2.696 2.556 2.546 2.543 2.520 2.655 2.734 090608 2.498 2.516 2.566 2.619 2.468 2.474 2.474 2.442 2.603 2.676 090601 2.352 2.369 2.438 2.457 2.326 2.322 2.323 2.343 2.460 2.502 090525 2.274 2.305 2.409 2.410 2.251 2.229 2.242 2.302 2.384 2.407 090518 2.231 2.276 2.401 2.396 2.213 2.170 2.210 2.274 2.340 2.354 090511 2.216 2.255 2.395 2.386 2.186 2.156 2.198 2.270 2.329 2.337 090504 2.185 2.226 2.382 2.365 2.152 2.124 2.153 2.262 2.306 2.316 090427 2.201 2.241 2.395 2.374 2.171 2.142 2.171 2.270 2.315 2.320 090420 2.221 2.264 2.403 2.392 2.197 2.166 2.186 2.274 2.327 2.340 090413 2.229 2.273 2.420 2.402 2.204 2.175 2.202 2.250 2.336 2.350 090406 2.228 2.279 2.429 2.419 2.205 2.178 2.210 2.213 2.311 2.335 090330 2.221 2.281 2.424 2.399 2.218 2.176 2.203 2.146 2.282 2.297 090323 2.090 2.166 2.403 2.315 2.081 2.038 2.060 2.036 2.150 2.129 090316 2.017 2.093 2.403 2.254 1.995 1.965 1.973 1.988 2.091 2.049 090309 2.045 2.122 2.434 2.287 2.022 1.988 2.006 2.017 2.120 2.075 090302 2.087 2.153 2.472 2.314 2.055 2.030 2.043 2.091 2.185 2.144 090223 2.130 2.199 2.514 2.368 2.098 2.071 2.074 2.158 2.238 2.219 090216 2.186 2.250 2.559 2.420 2.148 2.137 2.133 2.183 2.284 2.262 090209 2.219 2.296 2.576 2.450 2.205 2.173 2.156 2.211 2.292 2.269 090202 2.246 2.325 2.583 2.484 2.233 2.201 2.189 2.229 2.303 2.288 090126 2.268 2.344 2.595 2.490 2.258 2.232 2.202 2.243 2.319 2.296 090119 2.296 2.377 2.613 2.514 2.297 2.264 2.227 2.249 2.338 2.319 090112 2.314 2.395 2.621 2.516
Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D
According to the CD, locking system pump is evidently under rear seat. 'Wonder if I can unplug there and remove elec. from all the locking actuators in addition to disabling vac pump. BTW, why do the actuators have elec. to them? Entry warning? 'Thought they were just vacuum. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D Antenna is unplugged/disconnected; bulbs have been removed from trunk, rear roof and driver door lights; 'still have bright, steady test lamp with fuse C installed. 'Quit messing with it when I got cold and tired. 'Try some more (other door lights, central and rear door locking systems, seat adjust memory,. etc., tomorrow. Where are plugs for disconnecting the locking systems and seat adjust memory? Does this 124 have a locking system pump in the trunk like that in my 126? Meanwhile, I'll see what I can find on the CD, of course. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D The flashing test lamp may have been a false alarm of my own making. I just went out to the car, fully closed hood, trunk, doors, etc., and cycled the driver and front passenger locks with the key and tried the test lamp twice. It doesn't flash now. Conclusion: even with fuse 12 (alarm system) removed, something in the alarm system evidently was causing the flashing test lamp. I had discounted that originally because fuse 12 is removed - alarm disabled. I had left hood ajar last couple of days, and the alarm evidently was trying to alarm me, anyway. 'Still have steady, bright test lamp with fuse C, though. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D Yes, the test lamp flashes like a hazard light or turn signal. The alarm was my first thought, too, but fuse 12 (the alarm system) has been removed (system disabled) since before I got the car 5+ years ago. I've never had fuse 12 installed. Could something in the alarm system be doing this with the system disabled in such a manner? The test lamp does not illuminate at all (no steady light/no flashing) with fuse 9 (hazard, courtesy lamps, etc.) removed. And again, test lamp is steady bright with fuse C installed. Test lamp is significantly dimmer but flashing with fuse C removed and fuse 9 installed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D You're saying that the test lamp flashes _like_ a hazard light? It's probably the car alarm, which is trying to light the headlights and honk its auxiliary horn through your test lamp. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D
According to wiring diag., elec is to frnt door and trunk lock actuators; 'must be to signal alarm, etc. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D According to the CD, locking system pump is evidently under rear seat. 'Wonder if I can unplug there and remove elec. from all the locking actuators in addition to disabling vac pump. BTW, why do the actuators have elec. to them? Entry warning? 'Thought they were just vacuum. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D Antenna is unplugged/disconnected; bulbs have been removed from trunk, rear roof and driver door lights; 'still have bright, steady test lamp with fuse C installed. 'Quit messing with it when I got cold and tired. 'Try some more (other door lights, central and rear door locking systems, seat adjust memory,. etc., tomorrow. Where are plugs for disconnecting the locking systems and seat adjust memory? Does this 124 have a locking system pump in the trunk like that in my 126? Meanwhile, I'll see what I can find on the CD, of course. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D The flashing test lamp may have been a false alarm of my own making. I just went out to the car, fully closed hood, trunk, doors, etc., and cycled the driver and front passenger locks with the key and tried the test lamp twice. It doesn't flash now. Conclusion: even with fuse 12 (alarm system) removed, something in the alarm system evidently was causing the flashing test lamp. I had discounted that originally because fuse 12 is removed - alarm disabled. I had left hood ajar last couple of days, and the alarm evidently was trying to alarm me, anyway. 'Still have steady, bright test lamp with fuse C, though. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D Yes, the test lamp flashes like a hazard light or turn signal. The alarm was my first thought, too, but fuse 12 (the alarm system) has been removed (system disabled) since before I got the car 5+ years ago. I've never had fuse 12 installed. Could something in the alarm system be doing this with the system disabled in such a manner? The test lamp does not illuminate at all (no steady light/no flashing) with fuse 9 (hazard, courtesy lamps, etc.) removed. And again, test lamp is steady bright with fuse C installed. Test lamp is significantly dimmer but flashing with fuse C removed and fuse 9 installed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D You're saying that the test lamp flashes _like_ a hazard light? It's probably the car alarm, which is trying to light the headlights and honk its auxiliary horn through your test lamp. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D
Unable to reach antenna plug via any door in the panel; had to remove panel and remove antenna assembly to access plug on top of the assembly and behind the mounting brace/bracket attached to top of fender. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D Replace the relay for the interior lamp delay, that's what's flashing (and back feeding into the hazard relay). They go bad, draw an amp or two. Also check the wiring for the trunk lamp -- if the wire slips out of the clip, or the little plastic shield falls out, the wire will rub on the clamp and start shorting to ground. Fix before you fry the wiring harness, it's a royal pain to repair. And it could be the antenna. There is a little door in the trunk liner that will allow you to reach the plug. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D
Thanks, Jim C., for getting me to re-think the alarm system as a cause of the flashing test lamp after at first discounting it because fuse 12 is removed. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D The flashing test lamp may have been a false alarm of my own making. I just went out to the car, fully closed hood, trunk, doors, etc., and cycled the driver and front passenger locks with the key and tried the test lamp twice. It doesn't flash now. Conclusion: even with fuse 12 (alarm system) removed, something in the alarm system evidently was causing the flashing test lamp. I had discounted that originally because fuse 12 is removed - alarm disabled. I had left hood ajar last couple of days, and the alarm evidently was trying to alarm me, anyway. 'Still have steady, bright test lamp with fuse C, though. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D Yes, the test lamp flashes like a hazard light or turn signal. The alarm was my first thought, too, but fuse 12 (the alarm system) has been removed (system disabled) since before I got the car 5+ years ago. I've never had fuse 12 installed. Could something in the alarm system be doing this with the system disabled in such a manner? The test lamp does not illuminate at all (no steady light/no flashing) with fuse 9 (hazard, courtesy lamps, etc.) removed. And again, test lamp is steady bright with fuse C installed. Test lamp is significantly dimmer but flashing with fuse C removed and fuse 9 installed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D You're saying that the test lamp flashes _like_ a hazard light? It's probably the car alarm, which is trying to light the headlights and honk its auxiliary horn through your test lamp. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] anybody need a Chevette Diesel?
Original Message Subject:CHEVETTE Diesel 1982 - $800 (Rich Hill) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:59:07 -0800 (PST) From: ka...@striplin.net To: ka...@striplin.net ka...@striplin.net has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://joplin.craigslist.org/cto/1520598861.html to contact the person who posted this. CHEVETTE Diesel 1982 Date: 2009-12-21, 8:46PM This car has been parked and not used for some time. I've put injectors and block heater in and it starts. Automatic, needs better tires and heater core. Body is fair shape. Make offer. * Location: Rich Hill * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://joplin.craigslist.org/cto/1520598861.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/sF2aAJWZyR3csBXau4Wa0VmbN -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fried starter?
Curt wrote: Sheesh I dunno man, a couple days last week I ground on the thing to get the car started when it was real cold, 30-40 seconds at a time using the hold it until you win or crash method. When we did the tank screen several months ago, we suspect that the clogged screen could inhibit gelled fuel making the trip to the engine. The thing only dripped slowly with the hose disconnected. Then think of a clog due to gelled fuel. We suspect it was one of the problems we encountered last winter - I hope it does not happen this winter - happy winter to all. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] v-v-v
And nasty!!! sad to see the buyMBparts bust up but did we have to put up with the fallout? Anyway have a merry Christmas playing in the snow, supposed to be 42 degrees C here today but looks like a bit of cloud cover is keeping the temps down. Ho Ho Ho Hendrik who may be visiting the States in the next year but more info on that later Craig McCluskey wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:00:26 +1030 Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Hendrik who has been busy working for a while and has not had a chance to catch up on mail And by now, the list of Mercedes email has gotten HUGE! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Holiday project, will Santa's reindeer megasquirt on the roof?
My understanding of the megasquirt system is that it does use multi point injection, the trick being to find injectors to fit into the motor. There are a couple of fellas on the ozBenz list fiddling with megasquirt. From my point of view I would look at upgrading a CIS (K-jetronic) system but not a CIS/E (KE- jetronic) system because the KE already uses a O2 sensor to adjust the mixture on the go while the K system needs to be tuned with an analyzer every service. People have reported fuel economy/performance improvements but it has to be considered that the original fuel system may well have been out of tune and thus putting in a megasquirt has not really done anything except brought the fuel system back up to factory specs. Hendrik who needs to spend time on the suspension of the TE instead of fiddling with the fuel system Peter Frederick wrote: No, it won't. There is little or no benefit to pulsed injection unless it's into the cylinder, as Bosch discovered in the 70's. Hence the CIS -- mechanical, hence reliable, and accurate. Too accurate, in fact -- there is no sudden throttle opening enrichment. Benz stopped using it mostly because the US EPA insisted that each cylinder firing event be completely controlled, even though there is no way to tell -- even if you had an O2 sensor at each exhaust valve, they do not respond fast enough to tell if a cylinder has fired or not. The purpose is to shut off fuel to a non-functioning cylinder, but no one does this. Stupid. Anyway, a MegaSquirt on a Benz designed for point injection will suffer from the same problems as a carb (since it's exactly the same thing -- spray gasoline into the air flow remote from the cylinders): the manifolds have both a number of turns and turbulent, not laminar, flow. The gasoline gets thrown out of suspension as the air goes down into the bottom chamber, swirls around, then goes up and over and down into the intake valve. Works wonderfully for point injection, since all cylinders get the same air flow on average, but works like crap with a carb -- almost impossible to start, for one thing, since it takes a LONG time to suck enough fuel mist through the manifold to get it to light. Pump the accelerator pump and you end up with a puddle fo fuel on the bottom of the lower manifold half, nowhere near the cylinders. Terrible mixture control, and serious drivability problems. I've seen a conversion to a Holley 4-barrel -- worthless. Car was towed into the shop for refit to a normal CIS. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Battery drain - 87 300D
why do the actuators have elec. to them? Entry warning? The switches on the doors/trunk are for the alarm system. The wires to the actuators are for the 'voting' circuit in the central locking, which is what trips the pump to run a cycle. Anyway, unplug the pump (under rear seat) and it's all dead. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Back to 115 headlights again
I could try refocusing the existing fog lamps somewhat or put a set of the smaller aftermarket lamps under the front bumper I guess. Not sure I like the look of that however. Does your car have the on-the-bumper fogs like 114's got? That's a natural look for the car, if you can get some style-appropriate driving lights. The heap has drivers on top, and yellow fogs hanging below. Looks a bit 'busy', but works pretty well. The lights are crap, though, but sufficiently functional. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
