[MBZ] Frankenheap weldery
Well, that didn't work out so well. The muffler fell off the car today! Sheared right off next to where I did all the welding. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap weldery
I didn't know that they used salt on the roads in eastern WA. Hopefully, you can fix it easily. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR, Mercedes-less but not Diesel-less ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Unbelievable photography
QuickStitch from Adobe,, came with my old Olympus camera. Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD '02 RoadKing '72 T100 Daytona On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 7:12 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I've used MICE quite a bit as well. We have some 80x18 prints from Rocky Mt. Nat. Park that are stunning that I stitched using MICE from 7 or 8 images. Also have several on a web site using the deep zoom tile format, some are 360s. I really like using it. -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Malware Defense antiviral software
I used McAfee provided by my SP, but it is annoying since it seems to be doing always something ine the back, bringing whatever I am working on to a crawl. I now use Comodo Secutity (Firewall + Antivirus, Spy and Malware). It's simple, free and runs *in the background*. - Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD '02 RoadKing '72 T100 Daytona On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I think I saw somewhere yesterday that Google was giving out McAfee free for some period to combat some issue with gmail. I might be wrong about the google aspect, but somebody was doing it. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Real heroes
Great story, thanks for sharing! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of relng...@aol.com Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 12:25 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Real heroes Great Photography! Subject: USAF Para-rescue In Afghanistan Photos of USAF Para-rescue in Afghanistan. Fantastic pictures are adorned with a crisp, witty, informative lingo. This stuff is what legends are made of, and these folks are deservedly proud of their jolly green or Pedro community. http://aimpoints.hq.af.mil/display.cfm?id=35673 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Malware Defense antiviral software
Hello there, I have been using Avast for some time now. It was recommended from a friend who is pretty knowledgeable about computer. It is certainly not draining one's computer resources like McAfee. --PT, '81 300D Message: 17 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:16:05 -0600 From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Malware Defense antiviral software Message-ID: f5f376201001150216r58634d11w30abb755bea6e...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I used McAfee provided by my SP, but it is annoying since it seems to be doing always something ine the back, bringing whatever I am working on to a crawl. I now use Comodo Secutity (Firewall + Antivirus, Spy and Malware). It's simple, free and runs *in the background*. - Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD '02 RoadKing '72 T100 Daytona On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I think I saw somewhere yesterday that Google was giving out McAfee free for some period to combat some issue with gmail. I might be wrong about the google aspect, but somebody was doing it. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Aww Spit...
We just had the discussion of anti-spyware stuff and there was one I'd never heard of before, anybody remember it? My computer just got its ass kicked... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Malware Defense antiviral software
I've been very happy with it on 3 machines for 2 years. I have also mitigated to Open Office with very few issues. -- Pete - Original Message - From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 8:49:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Malware Defense antiviral software Hello there, I have been using Avast for some time now. It was recommended from a friend who is pretty knowledgeable about computer. It is certainly not draining one's computer resources like McAfee. --PT, '81 300D Message: 17 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:16:05 -0600 From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Malware Defense antiviral software Message-ID: f5f376201001150216r58634d11w30abb755bea6e...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I used McAfee provided by my SP, but it is annoying since it seems to be doing always something ine the back, bringing whatever I am working on to a crawl. I now use Comodo Secutity (Firewall + Antivirus, Spy and Malware). It's simple, free and runs *in the background*. - Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD '02 RoadKing '72 T100 Daytona On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I think I saw somewhere yesterday that Google was giving out McAfee free for some period to combat some issue with gmail. I might be wrong about the google aspect, but somebody was doing it. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aww Spit...
Spybot has kept me safe from the evil lurkers -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:02:22 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [MBZ] Aww Spit... We just had the discussion of anti-spyware stuff and there was one I'd never heard of before, anybody remember it? My computer just got its ass kicked... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aww Spit...
Spybot? --R Curt Raymond wrote: We just had the discussion of anti-spyware stuff and there was one I'd never heard of before, anybody remember it? My computer just got its ass kicked... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aww Spit...
For cleanup, I like the AntiMalware tool from malwarebytes.org. Spybot SD is also good. Last time I did a cleanup I had to use them multiple times in succession to remove all infection. Also had to work in Safe Mode until everything was cleaned up. F-Secure also has a Rescue CD which I've used. It is a live CD that you can boot off of. It will boot into Linux and scan your hard drive for infected files. Using this is probably a last ditch attempt. It takes a long time to scan, and I don't think their virus definitions are as up-to-date as the others. Last time I used it it did not remove the specific malware I was dealing with. On the other hand by not booting into Windows at all it is preventing any chance for the malware to activate and defend itself. Allan On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 06:02 -0800, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: We just had the discussion of anti-spyware stuff and there was one I'd never heard of before, anybody remember it? My computer just got its ass kicked... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] alternator rebuild?
Jim Cathey wrote: can an alternator be rebuilt? Yes, I've done it. Bearings and brush pack/regulators are readily available. Easy to get the slip rings turned too. If it needs more than that, get another one! It's certainly worth checking the diodes and having a shop true up the commutator and test the windings. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap weldery
I didn't know that they used salt on the roads in eastern WA. Yep, the last 10 years or so. I'm livid whenever I think about it. Supposedly the EPA drove them to it, our air was so 'polluted' due to particulate count that they stopped sanding the roads in the winter and switched to salt instead. Yeah, that's a winner. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] This is a nice 928
http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/1553627893.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is a nice 928
The only one I'd consider is a classic air-cooled 911. I don't think I have the stomach for the maintenance costs, however. Allan On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:29 -0500, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/1553627893.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is a nice 928
Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/1553627893.html And one of the few cars for which the auto tranny option is desirable. The 928 clutch has a bad reputation, and is quite expensive to replace. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT A Steam-powered Aeroplane
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/01/steam-powered_bi-plane_circa_1933.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap weldery
Time for a PnP replacement. Bring your sawz-all clay On Jan 15, 2010, at 12:13 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Well, that didn't work out so well. The muffler fell off the car today! Sheared right off next to where I did all the welding. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT MacBook teardown
I ordered a Left I/O Board and put it in, and the Macbook lives! Lots of little fiddly bits, screws and connectors and such, but got it back together, hit the power button and it came to life! Apple charges $1200 for that surgery, a cash payer like me got a part for $90 and spent maybe 4-5 hr on the thing. I might become Dr Mac. --R Rich Thomas wrote: So I just finished tearing apart the girl child's MacBook that the cat knocked a glass of water over into. I followed the instructions from ifixit, took out the main logic board which looked fine. The guy at the apple store suggested the power input board might be kaput so I took that out too, and lo, there was all the crap under it and the board was completely nasty, oxidized, schmutzed-up. You could see where the liquid was, probably shorted in there or something. I'll clean it all out before reassembling. They had replacements for $90 so ordered one, will see if that makes it go again. Whole teardown was like 2hr, the instructions are extremely good, and worth paying them for the part. Lots of extremely fiddly little bits in there, I might need to get some tiny fingers to put it back together though. Great web site. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Malware Defense antiviral software
Hans Neureiter wrote: I used McAfee provided by my SP, but it is annoying since it seems to be doing always something ine the back, bringing whatever I am working on to a crawl. I now use Comodo Secutity (Firewall + Antivirus, Spy and Malware). It's simple, free and runs *in the background*. - Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD '02 RoadKing '72 T100 Daytona On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I think I saw somewhere yesterday that Google was giving out McAfee free for some period to combat some issue with gmail. I might be wrong about the google aspect, but somebody was doing it. --R Facebook is trying to save FACE. They have been sharing lots of stuff you don't want living on your computer! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Malware Defense antiviral software
Chris N John wrote: Facebook is trying to save FACE. They have been sharing lots of stuff you don't want living on your computer! I read a column on their new 'privacy policies' the other day. Then I promised myself I'd never register for Facebook. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Unbelievable photography
I saw something about that when I was looking at some of these 360/pan packages. I guess I should look at it in more detail to see what it can do. Could be another fun time sink (like I need more of those). --R LWB250 wrote: QuickTime VR has been around for some time and will do much the same thing. I have never worked with it myself but know some people who have. With the advent of digital photography it's got to be a lot easier to do... Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Real heroes
All the photo links appear to be broken. That guy got detained by TSA or Customs (or whatever they are called these days) a couple of weeks ago and they committed some extremely stupid things upon him. --R relng...@aol.com wrote: Great Photography! Subject: USAF Para-rescue In Afghanistan Photos of USAF Para-rescue in Afghanistan. Fantastic pictures are adorned with a crisp, witty, informative lingo. This stuff is what legends are made of, and these folks are deservedly proud of their jolly green or Pedro community. http://aimpoints.hq.af.mil/display.cfm?id=35673 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Real heroes
Rich Thomas wrote: All the photo links appear to be broken. I get a 'website temporarily unavailable' error. I wonder if people passing the link around exceeded his bandwidth allotment? http://www.michaelyon-online.com/images/stories/pedro/Michael-Yon-51acc-730.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap weldery
What a bummer. Good thing there are lots of scrap microwaves to use to keep filling in the holes. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR, where it's just wet today ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap weldery
Yeah BUT pretty soon the car will weigh so much that a 240 diesel engine will not be able to get it moving. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Kevin Kraly Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 3:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap weldery What a bummer. Good thing there are lots of scrap microwaves to use to keep filling in the holes. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR, where it's just wet today ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Jack is back.
Jack is back and hes in NYC now Maybe it will be a good season for 24? Here is some good humor : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMLH_QyPTYM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aww Spit...
Malware bytes, got it and it fixed the problem... -Curt Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 06:02:22 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Aww Spit... Message-ID: 503458.73071...@web32801.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We just had the discussion of anti-spyware stuff and there was one I'd never heard of before, anybody remember it? My computer just got its ass kicked... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is a nice 928
I actually kinda like the front engine Porches. I'm planning on getting one once I get the cash... -Curt Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:34:01 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is a nice 928 Message-ID: 1263566041.15667.1354826...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The only one I'd consider is a classic air-cooled 911. I don't think I have the stomach for the maintenance costs, however. Allan On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 09:29 -0500, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/1553627893.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF
I was talking to some of my jukebox restoration buddies about penetrating oils, and they had never heard of the acetone and ATF brew. I couldn't recall what the proper ratio of ATF to acetone that was suggested - can someone refresh my memory? Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF
I think it was half/half. --R LWB250 wrote: I was talking to some of my jukebox restoration buddies about penetrating oils, and they had never heard of the acetone and ATF brew. I couldn't recall what the proper ratio of ATF to acetone that was suggested - can someone refresh my memory? Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT MacBook teardown
I will ship you the busted iBook my boy did for me, maybe you can fix it. Needs the power button conectors resoldered to the logic board. clay On Jan 15, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: I ordered a Left I/O Board and put it in, and the Macbook lives! Lots of little fiddly bits, screws and connectors and such, but got it back together, hit the power button and it came to life! Apple charges $1200 for that surgery, a cash payer like me got a part for $90 and spent maybe 4-5 hr on the thing. I might become Dr Mac. --R Rich Thomas wrote: So I just finished tearing apart the girl child's MacBook that the cat knocked a glass of water over into. I followed the instructions from ifixit, took out the main logic board which looked fine. The guy at the apple store suggested the power input board might be kaput so I took that out too, and lo, there was all the crap under it and the board was completely nasty, oxidized, schmutzed-up. You could see where the liquid was, probably shorted in there or something. I'll clean it all out before reassembling. They had replacements for $90 so ordered one, will see if that makes it go again. Whole teardown was like 2hr, the instructions are extremely good, and worth paying them for the part. Lots of extremely fiddly little bits in there, I might need to get some tiny fingers to put it back together though. Great web site. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF
Hmmm. I like the idea of acetone/ATF. Very redneck. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2010, at 6:40 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I think it was half/half. --R LWB250 wrote: I was talking to some of my jukebox restoration buddies about penetrating oils, and they had never heard of the acetone and ATF brew. I couldn't recall what the proper ratio of ATF to acetone that was suggested - can someone refresh my memory? Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Real heroes
Rich: According to the news reports I read it was TSA who detained and handcuffed him...for refusing to tell them how much money he earns! Customs has its own idiocy, but they are better educated as to their legal authority, and are usually technically correct in their enforcement, if sometimes lacking in common sense. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 11:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Real heroes All the photo links appear to be broken. That guy got detained by TSA or Customs (or whatever they are called these days) a couple of weeks ago and they committed some extremely stupid things upon him. --R relng...@aol.com wrote: Great Photography! Subject: USAF Para-rescue In Afghanistan Photos of USAF Para-rescue in Afghanistan. Fantastic pictures are adorned with a crisp, witty, informative lingo. This stuff is what legends are made of, and these folks are deservedly proud of their jolly green or Pedro community. http://aimpoints.hq.af.mil/display.cfm?id=35673 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT MacBook teardown
You can send it to me if you want - I used to do this in a previous career. I don't mind doing it for fun... MacDan --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: From: Redghost redgh...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT MacBook teardown To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 6:45 PM I will ship you the busted iBook my boy did for me, maybe you can fix it. Needs the power button conectors resoldered to the logic board. clay On Jan 15, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: I ordered a Left I/O Board and put it in, and the Macbook lives! Lots of little fiddly bits, screws and connectors and such, but got it back together, hit the power button and it came to life! Apple charges $1200 for that surgery, a cash payer like me got a part for $90 and spent maybe 4-5 hr on the thing. I might become Dr Mac. --R Rich Thomas wrote: So I just finished tearing apart the girl child's MacBook that the cat knocked a glass of water over into. I followed the instructions from ifixit, took out the main logic board which looked fine. The guy at the apple store suggested the power input board might be kaput so I took that out too, and lo, there was all the crap under it and the board was completely nasty, oxidized, schmutzed-up. You could see where the liquid was, probably shorted in there or something. I'll clean it all out before reassembling. They had replacements for $90 so ordered one, will see if that makes it go again. Whole teardown was like 2hr, the instructions are extremely good, and worth paying them for the part. Lots of extremely fiddly little bits in there, I might need to get some tiny fingers to put it back together though. Great web site. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT MacBook teardown
I'm at the beginning of a Powerbook Titanium rejuvenation (busted hinge, of course) -- 1 GHz DVI. I'm going to have to do a video cable transplant (at least) for the new screen I got since the wires are partially torn off the plug, and I need to check to see which LCD I have in there anyway. That means complete teardown, disassemble the two screens, put the correct one in the good frame, put the correct cable on, and then re- assemble. This is almost as much fun as cleaning watches, and somewhat less fiddly. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF
I just do an approx 50:50 mix. The acetone will evaporate off pretty quickly, so don't make more than you plan to use. Unless you have an airtight (probably metal or something the acetone won't eat) container. Allan On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:24 -0800, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I was talking to some of my jukebox restoration buddies about penetrating oils, and they had never heard of the acetone and ATF brew. I couldn't recall what the proper ratio of ATF to acetone that was suggested - can someone refresh my memory? Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Malware Defense antiviral software
Someone mentioned Spybot - I have used it for a while and it seemed to stop all spyware. When I went to Vista (BIG mistake) I lost it and when I saw the comment realized it was gone. When I did a search to re-download it I kept getting redirected to Spyware Doctor - a different product. One that must be purchased while Spybot is free,, but over over I was taken to Spyware Doctor - but I was persistent and often had to look at the small print to find it. Take are - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 8:49 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Malware Defense antiviral software Hello there, I have been using Avast for some time now. It was recommended from a friend who is pretty knowledgeable about computer. It is certainly not draining one's computer resources like McAfee. --PT, '81 300D Message: 17 Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:16:05 -0600 From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Malware Defense antiviral software Message-ID: f5f376201001150216r58634d11w30abb755bea6e...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I used McAfee provided by my SP, but it is annoying since it seems to be doing always something ine the back, bringing whatever I am working on to a crawl. I now use Comodo Secutity (Firewall + Antivirus, Spy and Malware). It's simple, free and runs *in the background*. - Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD '02 RoadKing '72 T100 Daytona On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I think I saw somewhere yesterday that Google was giving out McAfee free for some period to combat some issue with gmail. I might be wrong about the google aspect, but somebody was doing it. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT MacBook teardown
address off list plz clay On Jan 15, 2010, at 4:23 PM, LWB250 wrote: You can send it to me if you want - I used to do this in a previous career. I don't mind doing it for fun... MacDan --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: From: Redghost redgh...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT MacBook teardown To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 6:45 PM I will ship you the busted iBook my boy did for me, maybe you can fix it. Needs the power button conectors resoldered to the logic board. clay On Jan 15, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: I ordered a Left I/O Board and put it in, and the Macbook lives! Lots of little fiddly bits, screws and connectors and such, but got it back together, hit the power button and it came to life! Apple charges $1200 for that surgery, a cash payer like me got a part for $90 and spent maybe 4-5 hr on the thing. I might become Dr Mac. --R Rich Thomas wrote: So I just finished tearing apart the girl child's MacBook that the cat knocked a glass of water over into. I followed the instructions from ifixit, took out the main logic board which looked fine. The guy at the apple store suggested the power input board might be kaput so I took that out too, and lo, there was all the crap under it and the board was completely nasty, oxidized, schmutzed-up. You could see where the liquid was, probably shorted in there or something. I'll clean it all out before reassembling. They had replacements for $90 so ordered one, will see if that makes it go again. Whole teardown was like 2hr, the instructions are extremely good, and worth paying them for the part. Lots of extremely fiddly little bits in there, I might need to get some tiny fingers to put it back together though. Great web site. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF
I seem to remember at least one OEM using ATF in their PS system, darned if i can remember which. Must try this magic concoction on my truck, see if it can prevent more broken off bolts... Even PB seems to not cut the mustard... Is it thin enough to run through one of those Harbor Freight refillible spray cans? Walt On Jan 15, 2010 8:23 PM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Actually it was power steering fluid, not ATF. Personally, I can't imagine there's a lot of difference between the two (ATF PSF). http://sterkel.org/papers/vintage/Testing_Penetrating_Oils.pdf Dan --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Anthony Galioto agali...@gmail.com wrote: From: Anthony Galioto agali...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 7:59 PM Here is the original test AG Found this on a MGB list I'm on. Don't know how scientific ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF
The caution: Acetone evaporates quickly. You must keep your brew in a sealed container, or you will end up with just atf over time. Here is the original test AG Found this on a MGB list I'm on. Don't know how scientific it is but it seems convincing. Here's some interesting comparisons on penetrating oils. Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrates for break-out torque on rusted nuts. They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrates with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a scientifically rusted environment. *Penetrating Oil and Average Load* Nothing. 516 pounds WD-40... 238 pounds PB Blaster 214 pounds Liquid Wrench. 127 pounds Kano Kroil... 106 pounds ATF-Acetone mix. 53 pounds The ATF-Acetone mix was a home brew mix of 50-50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note the home brew was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. Note also that Liquid Wrench is about as good as Kroil for about 20% of the price. Take care - Larryt 74 911 91 300D On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I just do an approx 50:50 mix. The acetone will evaporate off pretty quickly, so don't make more than you plan to use. Unless you have an airtight (probably metal or something the acetone won't eat) container. Allan On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:24 -0800, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I was talking to some of my jukebox restoration buddies about penetrating oils, and they had never heard of the acetone and ATF brew. I couldn't recall what the proper ratio of ATF to acetone that was suggested - can someone refresh my memory? Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is a nice 928
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/1553627893.html And one of the few cars for which the auto tranny option is desirable. The 928 clutch has a bad reputation, and is quite expensive to replace. Wow, that is a beauty. IIRC the S4 is the most desirable model---the fastest, most refined version of what was already an insanely fast and refined car when new. The automatic was sourced from Mercedes, as I recall, because Porsche didn't have one of their own that could handle the torque of the V-8. Or was it that they didn't have one of their own, period? The first 928 was a '78 or '79, which is before the 944 (which had a slushbox as an option)---was there an automatic 924? I know there was no automatic 911 until the 964 in '89, unless you count the Sportomatic electric-clutch manuals. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF
Walt Zarnoch wrote: I seem to remember at least one OEM using ATF in their PS system, darned if i can remember which. MBZ back when my W116 was built. In fact, I think that applies to every Benz with a v-belt on the pump. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Walt Zarnoch wrote: I seem to remember at least one OEM using ATF in their PS system, darned if i can remember which. MBZ back when my W116 was built. In fact, I think that applies to every Benz with a v-belt on the pump. Volkswagen also, at least back in the 1980s-90s -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap weldery
What a bummer. Good thing there are lots of scrap microwaves to use to keep filling in the holes. I use cut-off scraps from the muffler shop for this kind of thing. I got some more today, and more flux-core wire. Yeah BUT pretty soon the car will weigh so much that a 240 diesel engine will not be able to get it moving. Then I've got some room for improvement if I ever need it. It has a 200 diesel in it now! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A heartbreaker
Pinched from the other list. Read and learn. www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=241899 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] alternator rebuild?
My son took the dead alternator out and swapped the back end with good brushes and bearing and put it back in the car. Now what we need is bearing and brushes to fix this dead alternator. Plus, we need all the brackets for mounting to engine. Does anyone have a 616 engine with alternator that you can part out to me? I would ask Kleb, but it is cold in OK and he is all busy making money in Nashville. Thanks - anyone? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A heartbreaker
relng...@aol.com writes: Pinched from the other list. Read and learn. www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=241899 Learn to keep a fire extinguisher in the car. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A heartbreaker
Allan Streib wrote: Learn to keep a fire extinguisher in the car. Speaking of which, I need to take mine out of the 16v and put it in the winter car. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Malware Defense antiviral software
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:22:40 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Chris N John wrote: Facebook is trying to save FACE. They have been sharing lots of stuff you don't want living on your computer! I read a column on their new 'privacy policies' the other day. Then I promised myself I'd never register for Facebook. With the orientation of things at work and constant reminders of security, I make it a point to say away from social networking sites. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A heartbreaker
Quite a sobering thing to read about... I nearly had a case of fireball with my project truck. I had just put the gauge cluster back in after a good inside and out cleaning, turned the key to check the gauges worked, dome light dimmed low and the cluster started smokeing. Turns out one of the sensor wires shorted out due to all the wigling needed to unplug the cluster. Ended up frying the flexi board on the cluster, but luckily it didn't catch fire. Quite a scarry experience. Took forever to get the smell out. It's always been my plan to have a CO2 extinguisher behind the seat just in case, and I have a small dry chem that might go in also. Walt On Jan 15, 2010 11:33 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Learn to keep a fire extinguisher in the car. Speaking of which, I need to take mine out of the 16v and put it in the winter car. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.o... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
