Re: [MBZ] High pressure A/C leak?
Seals on the compressor are easy/peasy IF you have the special tool for removing the clutch and AFTER you get it out of the car. If there is also a speed sensor on the rear, replace that while you are there as well as the manifold seal(s). You may also want to consider replacing the clutch, and then you'll practically have a rebuilt compressor. Follow the procedure in the FTM... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 3:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] High pressure A/C leak? From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Get some of that neon dye in a can? Walt On Jul 8, 2010 12:53 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: One problem with testing under the hood with engine running is that the air flow from the fan does... Remove the fan. Four little bolts, isn't it? Try bubble solution painted over the compressor manifold. -- Jim - Thanks. I'll try them. Gerry - Gerry wrote: Found the leak! Decided to try one more time with the freon detector after adding plenty of freon and letting the car sit in the shop all night. Went into the shop very slowly this morning so as to not create any more air currents than necessary, and went over everything in the engine compartment. When I got to the compressor with the detector set on high sensitivity, the detector buzzed at the bottom of the compressor shaft but not at the top. Double checked this and all possible leak points around it, and got a positive every time I stuck the probe under the shaft between the compressor and the clutch. Therefore, it must be the shaft seal in the compressor? Since I also need a compressor for the other 123, might try to replace the seal in one of the defective ones. Didn't you write something about replacing a compressor seal some time ago, Jim? Many thanks, Gerry.who has had little A/C experience. '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement
So you swapped out an r12 for an r134 evaporator? Did you also need to install the newer R-134 expansion valve? I see from the EPC that there is only one o-ring different between the two expansion valves, and it seals one of the connections on the evaporator. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement yes, the ev is different, but even with the 134 ev, it still does not cool as good as the factory 134 setup. Frederick W Moir wrote: Kaleb, Max, et al. The expansion valve is different for R12 R134a. What I found was that a clean and tight system with the 134 valve works OK, but not brilliantly. YMMV Fred Moir Lynn MA -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement
For my '87 wagon, EPC shows the evaporator was revised five times and condenser twice. Last revision for the evaporator made it identical to my '95. Revision for condenser is still a different part number, 124 830 18 70 in my '87 vice 124 830 16 70 for my '95. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement I thought of that myself but usually the EPC will give the replacement part numbers etc, but IIRC there was only one showing, so it did not look like it was replaced. Jim Cathey wrote: The evap and condenser all have the same part number for R12 or R134. So why does the factory 134 seem to cool better than a converted car? They have the same part number _now_, but did they always? A larger-for-R134a finned beast could supersede an R12-only unit in the parts callouts. Or, the converted thing didn't get rid of all the old immiscible oil, which is coating the pipes and adding insulation on the inside. Or, the expansion valve is sufficiently different. Or... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2988 - Release Date: 07/07/10 13:38:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mitchel 300D engine cheatsheet (pdf)
Walt, Neat stuff, I'd love to have same for my '87 wagon, engine is OM603.960. Does Mitchel have any torque converter stall speed data? I would like to know what that is for my '87 300TD, 124.193, transmission is 722.317. Thanks, Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Walt Zarnoch Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 1:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Mitchel 300D engine cheatsheet (pdf) Found this today, figured someone else might find it useful. I can possibly grab ones for other years/models as well. Walt -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: V2I785180.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 808400 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/2010070 8/f020d8a6/attachment.pdf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement
Looking at my last two posts, I'm wondering if the r134 expansion valve will fit into my '87 wagon? If I've got to pull the dash to replace a bad vacuum pod, why not go whole hog and replace the evaporator while I'm there so that I know the newer r134 expansion valve will fit? Hmmm, need to get my '95 back on the road so I can start taking apart my '87... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 6:56 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement For my '87 wagon, EPC shows the evaporator was revised five times and condenser twice. Last revision for the evaporator made it identical to my '95. Revision for condenser is still a different part number, 124 830 18 70 in my '87 vice 124 830 16 70 for my '95. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement I thought of that myself but usually the EPC will give the replacement part numbers etc, but IIRC there was only one showing, so it did not look like it was replaced. Jim Cathey wrote: The evap and condenser all have the same part number for R12 or R134. So why does the factory 134 seem to cool better than a converted car? They have the same part number _now_, but did they always? A larger-for-R134a finned beast could supersede an R12-only unit in the parts callouts. Or, the converted thing didn't get rid of all the old immiscible oil, which is coating the pipes and adding insulation on the inside. Or, the expansion valve is sufficiently different. Or... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2988 - Release Date: 07/07/10 13:38:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] High pressure A/C leak?
Seals on the compressor are easy/peasy IF you have the special tool for removing the clutch and AFTER you get it out of the car. You can also make this tool (for Nippondenso) if you have a welder and a spare drain plug from a differential. See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190dlog.html#clutchtool -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: High pressure A/C leak?
Gerry wrote: Didn't you write something about replacing a compressor seal some time ago, Jim? I've not yet replaced a shaft seal. -- Jim --- Seals on the compressor are easy/peasy IF you have the special tool for removing the clutch and AFTER you get it out of the car. If there is also a speed sensor on the rear, replace that while you are there as well as the manifold seal(s). You may also want to consider replacing the clutch, and then you'll practically have a rebuilt compressor. Follow the procedure in the FTM... -Max --- On the Nippndenso compressors it's not bad, but you do need to clean fhe front very well and have a clean workspace if you do not have the tools to pull the seal parts with the front cover on. Otherwise, you pull the front cover after removing the clutch and bearing assembly, swap the bits, and put it back together. I've done two, both work fine. Peter --- Thanks, guys. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: High pressure A/C leak?
The special tool for removing the clutch is pretty nifty. You can remove the clutch while the compressor is still mounted in the car. Theoretically you could replace just the seal underneath leaving the compressor in the car, but you may end up removing the radiator in order to get clearance. -Max From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of archer Sent: Fri 7/9/2010 9:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: High pressure A/C leak? Gerry wrote: Didn't you write something about replacing a compressor seal some time ago, Jim? I've not yet replaced a shaft seal. -- Jim --- Seals on the compressor are easy/peasy IF you have the special tool for removing the clutch and AFTER you get it out of the car. If there is also a speed sensor on the rear, replace that while you are there as well as the manifold seal(s). You may also want to consider replacing the clutch, and then you'll practically have a rebuilt compressor. Follow the procedure in the FTM... -Max --- On the Nippndenso compressors it's not bad, but you do need to clean fhe front very well and have a clean workspace if you do not have the tools to pull the seal parts with the front cover on. Otherwise, you pull the front cover after removing the clutch and bearing assembly, swap the bits, and put it back together. I've done two, both work fine. Peter --- Thanks, guys. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement
I put the 134 expansion valve on my 88 300TE. it helps if you have 10-12 yr old hands and fingers, but I managed to get it done with adult hands. I had extra orings, which was good, because I lost or cut a small, odd sized one in the process. My understanding is that the 134 models had a different (Larger) condensor and a different expansion valve, and of course seals in the compressor and orings all over made for 134. So, the ac should run just fine if you put in the newer condensor, the new expansion valve, flush the compressor, and put new orings everywhere. In addition,, you probably want to put the latest rev of the evaporator in too, and you should end up with AC that keeps you cool, essentially a '95 ac in the 87. For my '87 wagon, EPC shows the evaporator was revised five times and condenser twice. Last revision for the evaporator made it identical to my '95. Revision for condenser is still a different part number, 124 830 18 70 in my '87 vice 124 830 16 70 for my '95. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement I thought of that myself but usually the EPC will give the replacement part numbers etc, but IIRC there was only one showing, so it did not look like it was replaced. Jim Cathey wrote: The evap and condenser all have the same part number for R12 or R134. So why does the factory 134 seem to cool better than a converted car? They have the same part number _now_, but did they always? A larger-for-R134a finned beast could supersede an R12-only unit in the parts callouts. Or, the converted thing didn't get rid of all the old immiscible oil, which is coating the pipes and adding insulation on the inside. Or, the expansion valve is sufficiently different. Or... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2988 - Release Date: 07/07/10 13:38:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement
Bingo, exactly what I wanted to hear. I'll be calling Rusty shortly to order a new expansion valve. Condenser will have to wait - I'd like to compare my '95 to my '87 to see if it will fit. -Max From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Dieselhead Sent: Fri 7/9/2010 9:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement I put the 134 expansion valve on my 88 300TE. it helps if you have 10-12 yr old hands and fingers, but I managed to get it done with adult hands. I had extra orings, which was good, because I lost or cut a small, odd sized one in the process. My understanding is that the 134 models had a different (Larger) condensor and a different expansion valve, and of course seals in the compressor and orings all over made for 134. So, the ac should run just fine if you put in the newer condensor, the new expansion valve, flush the compressor, and put new orings everywhere. In addition,, you probably want to put the latest rev of the evaporator in too, and you should end up with AC that keeps you cool, essentially a '95 ac in the 87. For my '87 wagon, EPC shows the evaporator was revised five times and condenser twice. Last revision for the evaporator made it identical to my '95. Revision for condenser is still a different part number, 124 830 18 70 in my '87 vice 124 830 16 70 for my '95. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement I thought of that myself but usually the EPC will give the replacement part numbers etc, but IIRC there was only one showing, so it did not look like it was replaced. Jim Cathey wrote: The evap and condenser all have the same part number for R12 or R134. So why does the factory 134 seem to cool better than a converted car? They have the same part number _now_, but did they always? A larger-for-R134a finned beast could supersede an R12-only unit in the parts callouts. Or, the converted thing didn't get rid of all the old immiscible oil, which is coating the pipes and adding insulation on the inside. Or, the expansion valve is sufficiently different. Or... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2988 - Release Date: 07/07/10 13:38:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: High pressure A/C leak?
I managed to swap the clutches on the MB and the DatHonToy compressor with out any special tool, but I did have the compressors out of the cars. I did a write up for the list several years ago. The special tool for removing the clutch is pretty nifty. You can remove the clutch while the compressor is still mounted in the car. Theoretically you could replace just the seal underneath leaving the compressor in the car, but you may end up removing the radiator in order to get clearance. -Max From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of archer Sent: Fri 7/9/2010 9:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: High pressure A/C leak? Gerry wrote: Didn't you write something about replacing a compressor seal some time ago, Jim? I've not yet replaced a shaft seal. -- Jim --- Seals on the compressor are easy/peasy IF you have the special tool for removing the clutch and AFTER you get it out of the car. If there is also a speed sensor on the rear, replace that while you are there as well as the manifold seal(s). You may also want to consider replacing the clutch, and then you'll practically have a rebuilt compressor. Follow the procedure in the FTM... -Max --- On the Nippndenso compressors it's not bad, but you do need to clean fhe front very well and have a clean workspace if you do not have the tools to pull the seal parts with the front cover on. Otherwise, you pull the front cover after removing the clutch and bearing assembly, swap the bits, and put it back together. I've done two, both work fine. Peter --- Thanks, guys. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement
Well when you get all that stuff maybe we can try out the HF cheapie vac pump and gauges, and consult on the noisy compressor in the converted 84 SD. --R On 7/9/2010 9:28 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Bingo, exactly what I wanted to hear. I'll be calling Rusty shortly to order a new expansion valve. Condenser will have to wait - I'd like to compare my '95 to my '87 to see if it will fit. -Max From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Dieselhead Sent: Fri 7/9/2010 9:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement I put the 134 expansion valve on my 88 300TE. it helps if you have 10-12 yr old hands and fingers, but I managed to get it done with adult hands. I had extra orings, which was good, because I lost or cut a small, odd sized one in the process. My understanding is that the 134 models had a different (Larger) condensor and a different expansion valve, and of course seals in the compressor and orings all over made for 134. So, the ac should run just fine if you put in the newer condensor, the new expansion valve, flush the compressor, and put new orings everywhere. In addition,, you probably want to put the latest rev of the evaporator in too, and you should end up with AC that keeps you cool, essentially a '95 ac in the 87. For my '87 wagon, EPC shows the evaporator was revised five times and condenser twice. Last revision for the evaporator made it identical to my '95. Revision for condenser is still a different part number, 124 830 18 70 in my '87 vice 124 830 16 70 for my '95. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement I thought of that myself but usually the EPC will give the replacement part numbers etc, but IIRC there was only one showing, so it did not look like it was replaced. Jim Cathey wrote: The evap and condenser all have the same part number for R12 or R134. So why does the factory 134 seem to cool better than a converted car? They have the same part number _now_, but did they always? A larger-for-R134a finned beast could supersede an R12-only unit in the parts callouts. Or, the converted thing didn't get rid of all the old immiscible oil, which is coating the pipes and adding insulation on the inside. Or, the expansion valve is sufficiently different. Or... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.comhttp://www.okiebenz.com/ For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2988 - Release Date: 07/07/10 13:38:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.comhttp://www.okiebenz.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.comhttp://www.okiebenz.com/ For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.comhttp://www.okiebenz.com/ For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.comhttp://www.okiebenz.com/ For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] High pressure A/C leak?
Max wrote: Seals on the compressor are easy/peasy IF you have the special tool for removing the clutch and AFTER you get it out of the car. You can also make this tool (for Nippondenso) if you have a welder and a spare drain plug from a differential. See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190dlog.html#clutchtool -- Jim Both cars have R-4 compressors but I'll keep that on file since next MB might have a Nippondenso. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: High pressure A/C leak?
The special tool for removing the clutch is pretty nifty. You can remove the clutch while the compressor is still mounted in the car. Theoretically you could replace just the seal underneath leaving the compressor in the car, but you may end up removing the radiator in order to get clearance. -Max Doesn't look like there would be room without removing the radiator on the 300D; maybe on the 240D. The special tool sounds like it would be a worthwhile investment. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement
The expansion valve is the same on the outside. the new one was stamped with 134 on the outside. Bingo, exactly what I wanted to hear. I'll be calling Rusty shortly to order a new expansion valve. Condenser will have to wait - I'd like to compare my '95 to my '87 to see if it will fit. -Max From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Dieselhead Sent: Fri 7/9/2010 9:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement I put the 134 expansion valve on my 88 300TE. it helps if you have 10-12 yr old hands and fingers, but I managed to get it done with adult hands. I had extra orings, which was good, because I lost or cut a small, odd sized one in the process. My understanding is that the 134 models had a different (Larger) condensor and a different expansion valve, and of course seals in the compressor and orings all over made for 134. So, the ac should run just fine if you put in the newer condensor, the new expansion valve, flush the compressor, and put new orings everywhere. In addition,, you probably want to put the latest rev of the evaporator in too, and you should end up with AC that keeps you cool, essentially a '95 ac in the 87. For my '87 wagon, EPC shows the evaporator was revised five times and condenser twice. Last revision for the evaporator made it identical to my '95. Revision for condenser is still a different part number, 124 830 18 70 in my '87 vice 124 830 16 70 for my '95. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement I thought of that myself but usually the EPC will give the replacement part numbers etc, but IIRC there was only one showing, so it did not look like it was replaced. Jim Cathey wrote: The evap and condenser all have the same part number for R12 or R134. So why does the factory 134 seem to cool better than a converted car? They have the same part number _now_, but did they always? A larger-for-R134a finned beast could supersede an R12-only unit in the parts callouts. Or, the converted thing didn't get rid of all the old immiscible oil, which is coating the pipes and adding insulation on the inside. Or, the expansion valve is sufficiently different. Or... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2988 - Release Date: 07/07/10 13:38:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior
Sure can. S'not though, this is a good American trailer from the '70s! Only rust protection was a poor quality coat of paint. Fortunately previous owners repainted and I've kept up with it, except on this bit which is deep underneath. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 11:03:32 -0500 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpmefpogaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Just be a bit careful if the trailer is galvanized. The fumes can make you ill. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:03 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior Yup, and the tilt mechanism on mine is pretty simple, two C channel pieces with 3 bolts. Just need to take off the middle piece of decking to get at it... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Diagnose strange towing behavior
this is a good American trailer from the '70s! Only rust protection was a poor quality coat of paint. My EZ-Loader had only what appears to be an excellent coat of paint. There's a limit to what paint can do, when you repeatedly dunk the whatsit in salt water and don't get a chance to rinse it off for a week or so. Now it's got rattle-can red paint! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 12 Wonderful Wagons We Want
Ford made a Fairmont wagon in the early 80's that would have been comparable too. I never had the wagon but I had the Mercury Zephyr 2 door and it was quite a decent little car with an inline 6. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of ernest breakfield Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 12 Wonderful Wagons We Want i miss the early 60's Ford Falcon wagon my family had; red, 2-door, big circular tail lights, and that typical 'wood' paneling treatment that was so popular at the time. that little thing really hauled! (can't recall my Ford engines exactly, but i think it had some small V8 in it.) i have distinct memories of my mom as a young mother booking that thing up some of the dirt roads near our house in the woods when the roads were snowy and sloppy and she had to hit some of the hills with some momentum to make it up,... all the kids in the back would be cheering her on to go faster.;-) cheers! e On 08/Jul/10 06:22, Rich Thomas wrote: 2 Benzes, and some other greats. My dad bought a used Vista Cruiser back when for car #2, it was cool. --R http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/07/12-wagons-we-want?pid=21 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Life without an oil cooler
Two questions: Do you have AC and are you using it? 2nd Question, if you do not have working AC do you have the AC aux fan? Put a switch in to permit you to manually turn it on so you have more airflow through the rad. Also a suggestion to make sure that the main rad fan is working correctly. Fluid coupling OK? Another possible answer if you only have issues during really hot times is to put in a simple system to spray some water onto the rad. I think some people have used a windshield washer setup with a pipe accross the top of the rad with small holes drilled in it. Turn on the pump and spray some water onto the rad - should help bring temperatures down somewhat. Drag racers used something like this to cool the engine after a run down the track. I am sure I saw this in a Car Craft mag years back. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:17 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Life without an oil cooler Anybody remember that I removed the oil cooler from my 240D? That was last fall I think. Well I've been driving without it (probably 10,000 miles or more) since then and nothing terrible has happened. Except lately the temp has been unacceptably high. Hardly a shocker since we're in the middle of a heatwave. With the outside temp in the mid to high 90's I couldn't really drive over 65mph for any prolonged time as the needle would rise perilously high (who knows how hot exactly, above the 100C mark anyway) until I wussed out and slowed down. Well rather than put in the new oil cooler I noticed a wet spot on the lower radiator hose and yesterday while I was running errands I stopped at the local CarQuest to see if they had the hoses. They had the upper and got me the lower today. Had a radiator cap too, made in Mexico, nice looking cap. The one on the car is so corroded I can't read it anymore. I put it on 6 or 7 years and ~70,000 miles ago... I was surprised how little coolant I lost in the replacement, no big whoop. I guess its mostly full of G05 now, I've been doing a running project coolant change changed a bunch when I did the water pump (and as it leaked just before I did the water pump) and more now. What came out was pretty yellow. Took a little ride and it rose more than I liked, could be just needing to burp though, I'll add more once it cools off and see how it does tomorrow. If its still real hot I'll put the oil cooler in. If the red car were registered I'd just drive that until it cooled off again, we won't be at these temps for too much longer. ;) Heck I may put the new oil cooler in no matter what just since I've got it. Or not, it depends on how hot it is Saturday. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mitchel 300D engine cheatsheet (pdf)
Max wrote: Neat stuff, I'd love to have same for my '87 wagon, engine is OM603.960. Yes - and also needed is the 616 engine cheat sheet, although the 617 is just one cylinder more... so maybe it works fine... generally. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mitchel 300D engine cheatsheet (pdf)
this is pretty cool, though it's for the 617.912 (non-turbo). if we could get one of these for the turbo-diesel (617.952), that would be *super* cool! ;-) cheers! e On 08/Jul/10 10:21, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Found this today, figured someone else might find it useful. I can possibly grab ones for other years/models as well. Walt -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: V2I785180.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 808400 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100708/f020d8a6/attachment.pdf ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mitchel 300D engine cheatsheet (pdf)
How close is this to the engine in the 115? My guess is pretty close. I assume that the 123 has the oil filter housing up top but apart from that probably not much difference. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Walt Zarnoch Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:21 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Mitchel 300D engine cheatsheet (pdf) Found this today, figured someone else might find it useful. I can possibly grab ones for other years/models as well. Walt -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: V2I785180.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 808400 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100708/f020d8a6/attachment.pdf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT A Toyota Fun Ride
http://www.durangoherald.com/sections/News/2010/07/09/Driver_survives_cars_496foot_plunge_off_Red_Mountain_Pass/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT A Toyota Fun Ride
Rich Thomas wrote: http://www.durangoherald.com/sections/News/2010/07/09/Driver_survives_cars_496foot_plunge_off_Red_Mountain_Pass/ The less often it rains, the more slippery the roads are when it does rain. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT A Toyota Fun Ride
Now if they could only figure out how to build that kind of safety to the Lexus LFA rimshot -Rolf Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: http://www.durangoherald.com/sections/News/2010/07/09/Driver_survives_cars_496foot_plunge_off_Red_Mountain_Pass/ The less often it rains, the more slippery the roads are when it does rain. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: High pressure A/C leak?
Gerry stop off at Advance and Autozone and see if they have the tool for rent. I seem to remember doing that a few years ago when I needed to replace a clutch on a compressor. Manfred Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 09:47:34 -0400 From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: High pressure A/C leak? The special tool for removing the clutch is pretty nifty. You can remove the clutch while the compressor is still mounted in the car. Theoretically you could replace just the seal underneath leaving the compressor in the car, but you may end up removing the radiator in order to get clearance. -Max Doesn't look like there would be room without removing the radiator on the 300D; maybe on the 240D. The special tool sounds like it would be a worthwhile investment. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's always something...
Jill called me at lunch from the library parking lot, and said that the 560SL battery (that went through Hell with the alternator incident) made a big 'pop' noise when she went to start the car, and fluid started dripping out of the back. (It also wouldn't start, and had been getting difficult to start recently, and could sometimes barely turn over though the voltage and charge state always seemed OK.) Sheesh! I got there and opened it up, and the newly-repaired battery box had contained all the acid from the 8-year-old NAPA battery's case blowing open! It had cracks and fractures all over the place, and had leaked thoroughly. We got a pan of water and sluiced it off before lifting it out onto the ground, and diluted the acid stream that was running away from the car. I put the battery on one of the rubber winter floor mats in the trunk of my car, and we went off to Les Schwab where we bought another Group 49 battery for $108. (I washed off the floor mat with their hose.) It installed easily enough into the car, but the cables didn't reach well and I didn't have time to fuss with it. (It's possible that the new battery is a bit shorter than the old one.) It got her home, anyway, but the car wouldn't start again because the positive cable had popped off sometime along the way. The battery box and the lid have some new cracks in them, so I'll have to do some more gluing too. Exploding battery, that's a first for me. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] High pressure A/C leak?
They have to tool. Don't try to remove the clutch on a R4 without it. DAMHIK Russ W. MG wrote: Gerry stop off at Advance and Autozone and see if they have the tool for rent. I seem to remember doing that a few years ago when I needed to replace a clutch on a compressor. Manfred Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 09:47:34 -0400 From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: High pressure A/C leak? The special tool for removing the clutch is pretty nifty. You can remove the clutch while the compressor is still mounted in the car. Theoretically you could replace just the seal underneath leaving the compressor in the car, but you may end up removing the radiator in order to get clearance. -Max Doesn't look like there would be room without removing the radiator on the 300D; maybe on the 240D. The special tool sounds like it would be a worthwhile investment. Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: High pressure A/C leak?
Good idea, Manfred; never thought of that. I've borrowed a number of tools from Autozone. They might even be able to order the seal. Rusty doesn't carry them and GM dealer has to order them for $45. Thanks, Gerry Gerry stop off at Advance and Autozone and see if they have the tool for rent. I seem to remember doing that a few years ago when I needed to replace a clutch on a compressor. Manfred The special tool for removing the clutch is pretty nifty. You can remove the clutch while the compressor is still mounted in the car. Theoretically you could replace just the seal underneath leaving the compressor in the car, but you may end up removing the radiator in order to get clearance. -Max Doesn't look like there would be room without removing the radiator on the 300D; maybe on the 240D. The special tool sounds like it would be a worthwhile investment. Thanks, Gerry ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's always something...
Jim Cathey wrote: Exploding battery, that's a first for me. And, IIRC, charging voltage was reasonable when you tested it. I'd still test the charging just to be safe. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] High pressure A/C leak?
Thanks, Russ. Good abbreviation. Gerry --- They have to tool. Don't try to remove the clutch on a R4 without it. DAMHIK Russ W. MG wrote: Gerry stop off at Advance and Autozone and see if they have the tool for rent. I seem to remember doing that a few years ago when I needed to replace a clutch on a compressor. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's always something...
I had a battery on a piece of equipment blow up in my face many moons ago. We had jumped the battery, and when we disconnected the jumpers, the spark ignited the hydrogen gas from the battery, which was now charging. Ever since then, I am very careful to hook up the last connection as a ground far away from the dead battery, and it is the first one to be disconnected. There must have been hydrogen gas and a spark. The hydrogen gas may have been in the battery box from when she was driving the car. The spark came when she tried to start the car. Jill called me at lunch from the library parking lot, and said that the 560SL battery (that went through Hell with the alternator incident) made a big 'pop' noise when she went to start the car, and fluid started dripping out of the back. (It also wouldn't start, and had been getting difficult to start recently, and could sometimes barely turn over though the voltage and charge state always seemed OK.) Sheesh! I got there and opened it up, and the newly-repaired battery box had contained all the acid from the 8-year-old NAPA battery's case blowing open! It had cracks and fractures all over the place, and had leaked thoroughly. We got a pan of water and sluiced it off before lifting it out onto the ground, and diluted the acid stream that was running away from the car. I put the battery on one of the rubber winter floor mats in the trunk of my car, and we went off to Les Schwab where we bought another Group 49 battery for $108. (I washed off the floor mat with their hose.) It installed easily enough into the car, but the cables didn't reach well and I didn't have time to fuss with it. (It's possible that the new battery is a bit shorter than the old one.) It got her home, anyway, but the car wouldn't start again because the positive cable had popped off sometime along the way. The battery box and the lid have some new cracks in them, so I'll have to do some more gluing too. Exploding battery, that's a first for me. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 03 S430
My buddy is going to be buying an Audi A8 sometime in the next few months. Car is in perfect condition, 52k miles. I am thinking about $15k plus something for the 100k ext warranty? I might consider it, though with the SD and other cars, it would not be a popular choice at this time. And some friends came over the other evening with their SL500, and mama was gaga over it. (I must admit my lust as well) ---R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT CL poster of the week
Notice anything familiar? http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1834374642.html http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/1834334118.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] These would look good on a SDL
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1833697723.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL photog of the week
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1832837612.html Looks good! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL photog of the week
This one might have it beat. http://chico.craigslist.org/cto/1834666383.html Dave On Jul 9, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1832837612.html Looks good! —R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] These would look good on a SDL
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 23:08:11 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1833697723.html Ick! Wretch! Patooey! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's always something...
Exploding battery, that's a first for me. And, IIRC, charging voltage was reasonable when you tested it. I'd still test the charging just to be safe. It was 14.03V when I tested it after putting the new one in. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's always something...
There must have been hydrogen gas and a spark. The hydrogen gas may have been in the battery box from when she was driving the car. The spark came when she tried to start the car. H2 had to be inside the battery, as did the spark. The box was just fine, but the battery case itself was fractured. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
