Re: [MBZ] Wheel color
Not at all and it's a great suggestion. I purchased my AMG Monoblock II's off of eBay, where they had minor cosmetic damage (chipped paint, very light curb rash, etc.) I took them to Prince Wheel Services in Monroe, NC, where they did a fantastic job on powder coating them. Justin Prince, the proprietor, has several color chips that we matched perfectly (incandescent light color, fluorescent light color, metallic flake amount, etc.) to the original astral silver color of the new center caps I bought for the wheels at the dealership. For $130 per wheel, they measured the run out, roundness, etc. of each wheel to make sure they were perfect. After stripping the original paint and lightly machining the aluminum lip, the wheels were powder coated (minus the lip) and then given a final clear powder coat of the entire wheel. The result was a perfect, brand new set of AMG wheels, inside and out. Don't look for a super easy job in cleaning though, as brake dust won't simply hose off of anything. However, minimal effort with a wet sponge brings them back to new again. Trust me, from a guy who tried refinishing a set of Bundts, the $130 per wheel is cheaper than the time and materials you will spend doing it yourself. TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel color On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > I decided to get the NAPA silver wheel paint and just paint the set. Less > hassle than trying to find the "right" color. > What about powder coating? There are a couple of outfits near me that advertise that they will powder coat a set of wheels for $200, including a solvent dip and bead-blast beforehand (and they have plenty of shades of gray available). Seems like it'd be worth it to avoid spending hours scrubbing away brake dust and hand-sanding all the little holes in a bundt or 15-hole pancake wheel. Anyone know any reason why powder coating would be a bad idea? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W115 "sat for 20 plus years but it runs good"
"easy restore" http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/1899738988.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL Photographer of the week
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Why build this and "don't drive it in the mud or snow"
Same reason you see lifted lincoln SUV's on twenies with spinners, winches, sliders, black-hole tint, and leather seats. Walt On Aug 17, 2010 11:43 PM, "Allan Streib" wrote: http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/1904659520.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Old FSM CD-ROM availability [was: ML320 status]
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:54:30 -0700 Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Craig McCluskey > wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:06:59 -0700 Alex Chamberlain > > wrote: > > > >> http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/9124/?requestedDocId=9124 > >> > > No listing for 124 nor 126. > > That's because cars before 1995 or so are under the purview of the M-B > Classic Center: > > http://www.classictechlit.mbusa.com/MB/ > > I bought the W116 CD-ROM not long ago (I don't have a 116, but the > info on the 6.9's suspension is applicable to my 500SEL), and it is > still listed as available, but the 124 and 126 CDs apparently are > not---so you can BitTorrent them, or ask someone here off-list to burn > a copy for you, with a clear conscience. Yes, indeed, the only thing available for a '94 E420 is a reproduction Technical Data Book. I got my copy of the W124 service manual digitally from John Robbins. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Why build this and "don't drive it in the mud or snow"
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Re: [MBZ] Overheating - proven to be lack of waterpump output
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 18:39:02 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Robert Bigham wrote: > Removal of the thermostat should not have a material effect on the path > coolant; otherwise running without thermostat would be engine death, > which it is not, as all know. Removal of thermostat generally results > in overcooling. This is NOT true for Mercedes. A Mercedes thermostat has TWO plates to block water passages. With the thermostat installed and closed, the front plate blocks coolant flow through the radiator, so it has to go through the block. With the thermostat open, the back plate blocks coolant flow through the block, so it has to go through the radiator. Without the back plate blocking flow to the block, very little coolant will go through the radiator because the flow through the block is easier. You cannot just remove a Mercedes thermostat; you have to forcibly block it open so the back plate blocks coolant flow to the block. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel color
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > I decided to get the NAPA silver wheel paint and just paint the set. Less > hassle than trying to find the "right" color. > What about powder coating? There are a couple of outfits near me that advertise that they will powder coat a set of wheels for $200, including a solvent dip and bead-blast beforehand (and they have plenty of shades of gray available). Seems like it'd be worth it to avoid spending hours scrubbing away brake dust and hand-sanding all the little holes in a bundt or 15-hole pancake wheel. Anyone know any reason why powder coating would be a bad idea? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wheel color
Anybody got the paint code for 15 hole wheels and/or 8 hole wheels? From Paintchip.com, it looks like the number is G8081. Anyone know if this is right for 8 hole wheels? All the FLAPS computers (in town) say there is no such number as G8081 They had the 3 digit Glasurit paint numbers and a few 4 digit numbers, but no 8081 I decided to get the NAPA silver wheel paint and just paint the set. Less hassle than trying to find the "right" color. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Overheating - proven to be lack of waterpump output
OK, after rooting around for a while, I found the M103 coolant system. I assume this is very similar to the M102. Water pump forces water into the block from EITHER lower radiator hose (cold side) OR directly from head. Thermostat determines which what the water goes -- when closed, water re-enters the pump through the bottom opening in the thermostat housing, when open, the back flap on the thermostat closes the return off and water is forced out through the top of the thermostat and into the radiator. If there is no flap on the back of the thermostat, and many aftermarket ones don't have one, or it's too large, too small, or has a hole in it, coolant will circulate around the engine and never enter the radiator. Removing the thermostat, or replacing it with an open one minus the flap on the back will result in serious overheating. Period. On top of that, removing the thermostat on most engines results in serious overheating because the coolant circulates too fast -- no time for it to loose heat across the radiator! I would do the following: Remove the lower radiator hose and verify that it is not collapsed or plugged somehow. Re-install. Buy a thermostat from the dealer for your engine. You can use Fastlane at PeachParts or Rusty, but it must be and OEM, not from a parts store. Behr or Whaler only, any other name brand is almost certainly wrong. I've seen them all, they are all bunk. Test, or better yet, replace your coolant tank cap. Must hold 20 psi. Pressure test the system. Must hold 20 psi. Test engine fan clutch (electric on the M102, often fails and you have NO fan, hence it overheats. Last, if nothing else works, remove the water pump and see if it's plugged or has a loose or damaged impeller. Unlikely, but it has happened to a friend of mine, defective in the box. I repeat -- the intake from the head to the water pump in the thermostat housing MUST be closed off by the flap on the back of the thermostat as it opens. If this opening is not sealed by that flap, coolant will NOT circulate to the radiator, no matter what else you do. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New speakers
Speakers are one of those things where you didn't realize how bad they were until you replace them. The new Pioneers ($40 shipped from an Amazon seller) are sweet, sound sweet, fit in the holes on the back deck sweet and best of all worked nicely with the old speaker grills. I never did paint the grills and I'm not sure I want to, they'd look too perfect if I did, I like them scuffed up... Anyway the kit came with some very nice speaker wires that I scabbed onto the existing wires to use the nice connectors, easy job ~10 minutes... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Have you guys seen this new hotness for the W124?
I ask because I have seen nothing about w124 having them. So I am not sure if you are referring to the shims or spring buffers that I have yet to see. Of course there are some issues that cannot be easily overcome in these older cars , but really you are putting too much magic into this. The spring manufacturers set these cars up and test them. I can get Bilstein and progressive rate lowering springs (which your beloved OE sportline wont have from what I have read) for 2/3 to 3/4 of the cost of a OE sportline cost. -Rolf On 8/17/2010 3:29 PM, Rolf wrote: What do you mean by spring buffers? -Rolf On 08/17/2010 01:52 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Rolf wrote: What exactly do you mean by wheel geometry? -Rolf Change in suspension measurements, including but not limited to those that are part of an alignment job, during changes in suspension load, steering angle, and slip angle. It's dynamic rather than static. Wheel or suspension geometry is the reason why "upgrading" suspension parts ad hoc is a bad idea. The suspension of the 124 was carefully designed to behave a certain way in use. If you want to ruin the ride and handling of the car, by all means slap some shorter springs and stiffer shocks on it. If you want to do it right, change over to Sportline parts, including the proper spring buffers for your car (which vary by VIN). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM602 with SLS
yea I have seen a few of those on ebay Mitch Haley wrote: This must be what Ron Dwelle's 190D euro looks like under the hood, but I think it's a 250D in the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edHzfwo2Utc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What's not to like about this CL MB?
yes, they did. In other countrys, the 300D 2.5 was referred to as a 250D Curt Raymond wrote: Did they really make a 250D? A grey market car if they did. Still a cool ride, no way it gets 40mpg but I bet it'll do 30-35. If I had that kind of money hanging around I'd be all over it. -Curt Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 19:13:40 -0500 From: Mountain Man To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] What's not to like about this CL MB? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/1890991379.html mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3075 - Release Date: 08/16/10 01:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What's not to like about this CL MB?
looks nice, and interesting, except for the veggie oil conversion. Mountain Man wrote: http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/1890991379.html mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3073 - Release Date: 08/15/10 01:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Overheating - proven to be lack of waterpump output
I do disagree and if you actually look at an MB thermostat you'll see why. When the thermostat opens it closes the loop passage in the block, without that happening water doesn't take the path to the radiator, it follows the path of least resistance through the block. I've driven an '81 300TD with the thermostat out, it was fine for ~30 minutes from a cold start, then it would overheat. Let it cool off an hour and it would overheat again in ~5 minutes every single time. New thermostat and the problem went away. If you want to flush an MB cooling system without waiting for the thermostat you have to make a piece to hold the thermostat open, gutting it doesn't do anything. BTDT. If you want you can come out here some time and we can pull a thermostat from one of my cars and I'll show you. Thats why I said in my message that MB's don't cool like other cars. -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 18:39:02 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Robert Bigham To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Overheating - proven to be lack of waterpump output Message-ID: <6186523.1282088343022.javamail.r...@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello Thank you for your comment. I neglected to say that the gutted thermostat was gutted and installed after the new thermostat, which was thought to be the cure of the problem (everything else having been thought to be eliminated) did nothing that anyone could tell. New Wahlert thermostat installed, (opens at 90 deg C by test)has no efffect on overheating that anyone can see. Without doubt the path of coolant with thermostat installed and working should be from the pump toward the back of the block, back to the front through the head and block, and then out through the open thermostat through the top hose to the radiator top tank. Removal of the thermostat should not have a material effect on the path coolant; otherwise running without thermostat would be engine death, which it is not, as all know. Removal of thermostat generally results in overcooling. It is certain the top hose will discharge coolant if the water pump is pumping, or I say so. Do you agree or disagree? If you disagree, why? Thanx RE Bigham, alter ego and enablere of Edward Baldhead ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Overheating - proven to be lack of waterpump output
Hello Thank you for your comment. I neglected to say that the gutted thermostat was gutted and installed after the new thermostat, which was thought to be the cure of the problem (everything else having been thought to be eliminated) did nothing that anyone could tell. New Wahlert thermostat installed, (opens at 90 deg C by test)has no efffect on overheating that anyone can see. Without doubt the path of coolant with thermostat installed and working should be from the pump toward the back of the block, back to the front through the head and block, and then out through the open thermostat through the top hose to the radiator top tank. Removal of the thermostat should not have a material effect on the path coolant; otherwise running without thermostat would be engine death, which it is not, as all know. Removal of thermostat generally results in overcooling. It is certain the top hose will discharge coolant if the water pump is pumping, or I say so. Do you agree or disagree? If you disagree, why? Thanx RE Bigham, alter ego and enablere of Edward Baldhead Message: 13 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:10:26 -0400 From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating - proven to be lack of waterpump output If you have a good thermostat installed, all water pump output would stay within the engine and I would not expect anything to come out of the top radiator hose until normal engine temperature was reached and the t-stat opened. If the car has your gutted t-stat with hole installed, all bets are off as to where the water pump output would go. Some would probably flow out the top radiator hose. -Max -Original Message- Robert Bigham Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 3:04 PM Subject: [MBZ] Overheating - proven to be lack of waterpump output Hello all Engine 102.980 Has anyone else had overheating from no waterpump output? I like to never found the cause of my overheating. Mercifully, it's a hot weather thing only. You might not beleive some of the speculations as to the cause. Not the radiator. New a year or so back; came from the fatherland. 20 deg drop from head to bottom inlet on pump. Water pump Meyle new at same time. Not the cap; same reason as radiator. Not thermostat; same reason. No loss of coolant. Temperature gauge moves inexorably toward the top, particularly at low speed/idle. Does not reach red mark (shut off first). No coolant loss. Laser thermometer says temperature gauge in dash essentially correct. Radiator tubes or heat exchanger fins not blocked anywhere. Stop engine, it depressurizes and cools off pretty quickly. Gutted old thermostat to make gasketed plate with hole about 1 in. diameter: made it worse if anything. Finally, disconnect top hose at radiator, lay it on top of tank, block top radiator nozzle, top up coolant, start engine. No water pump output. Problem found. How did this happen? Pump makes no noise; seems OK until shown to have no output. Pump not off yet. Several are interested to see it when it comes off. Argh! ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel color
Here's what Eastwood sells - their products are always 1st class - IMO - http://search.eastwood.com/search?w=WHEEL+PAINT&x=7&y=15&p=Q&ts=custom Good Luck - LarryT 91 300D "In God We Trust" -- From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:56 PM To: Subject: [MBZ] Wheel color Anybody got the paint code for 15 hole wheels and/or 8 hole wheels? From Paintchip.com, it looks like the number is G8081. Anyone know if this is right for 8 hole wheels? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SILLY
> www.acura-legend.com/vbulletin/f9/see-through-tires-134681/.. > Pointless and ugly. These pics have been floating around for years. RLE > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel color
Wurth used to sell the paint in rattle cans. Might want to Google Wurth and wheel paint and see what comes up. I used it several times and then shot the wheels with Minwax clear spar varnish. I know that one set of wheels I did this to held up quite well in northern NY winters, according to Marshall. He saw them a number of times over the years and reported their condition back to me. Dan --- On Tue, 8/17/10, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> > Subject: [MBZ] Wheel color > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 1:56 PM > Anybody got the paint code for 15 > hole wheels and/or 8 hole wheels? > > From Paintchip.com, it looks like the number is > G8081. Anyone know if this is right for 8 hole > wheels? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel - $900 (Plattsburgh)
Maybe it needed an engine and he put an OM601 in it? Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:57 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel - $900 (Plattsburgh) I'd bet this one is the guy who bought the engine from my 190D. He tried to sell me this car. I don't remember what he said about it but there was something significantly wrong... He seemed like a fair schyster. -Curt enz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Overheating - proven to be lack of waterpump output
There must be a valve flap on the back of the thermostat, or the recirculation passage will be open and coolant will only circulate around the engine block. If this flap is missing or does not fit the hole, the car will slowly (or quickly) overheat. If you put in a restriction plate, you will fry the engine as NO coolant will circulate through the radiator -- the recirculation passages have lower back pressure. I would inspect tbe water pump though -- strange things happen, like malformed vanes or the impeller on backwards (or missing). Also make positively certain that the radiator fan clutch engages -- slow overheat at idle or low speed is often inadequate air flow through the rad. Ditto for the presence and condition of the fan shroud. Peter -Original Message- >From: Curt Raymond >Sent: Aug 17, 2010 4:55 PM >To: Diesel List >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating - proven to be lack of waterpump output > >Did you block the thermostat open or just put a hole in it? Did you let the >car warm up during this test? > >MB thermostats are not like other thermostats, and MB cooling systems don't >work like other cooling systems. A hole in the thermostat does not mean >coolant is circulating, the car can still overheat. If you block the >thermostat open it'll force coolant through the radiator... > >IIRC there are some waterpumps with cheaper vanes that sheer off, or maybe >you've just got a defective one? It happens... > >-Curt > >Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:04:03 -0500 (GMT-05:00) >From: Robert Bigham >To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >Subject: [MBZ] Overheating - proven to be lack of waterpump output >Message-ID: > <1914765.1282071845367.javamail.r...@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >Hello all > >Engine 102.980 > >Has anyone else had overheating from no waterpump output? > >I like to never found the cause of my overheating. Mercifully, >it's a hot weather thing only. You might not beleive some of >the speculations as to the cause. > >Not the radiator. New a year or so back; came from the >fatherland. 20 deg drop from head to bottom inlet on pump. >Water pump Meyle new at same time. Not the cap; same reason as >radiator. Not thermostat; same reason. > >No loss of coolant. Temperature gauge moves inexorably toward >the top, particularly at low speed/idle. Does not reach red >mark (shut off first). No coolant loss. > >Laser thermometer says temperature gauge in dash essentially >correct. Radiator tubes or heat exchanger fins not blocked >anywhere. Stop engine, it depressurizes and cools off pretty >quickly. > >Gutted old thermostat to make gasketed plate with hole about >1 in. diameter: made it worse if anything. > >Finally, disconnect top hose at radiator, lay it on top of >tank, block top radiator nozzle, top up coolant, start engine. > >No water pump output. Problem found. How did this happen? >Pump makes no noise; seems OK until shown to have no output. >Pump not off yet. Several are interested to see it when it >comes off. > >Argh! > > > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACC Buttons - back lights
And only use the proper rusty-supplied (or dealer supplied) bulbs. The aftermarket ones run too hot and will melt the bulb holders and the light pipes... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 16, 2010, at 21:49, LWB250 wrote: > BZZZT! WRONG! > > It's been a while. > > After looking at the photos, I forgot that the ACC has indirect lighting, so > all you have to do is replace the two lamps on the top of the PB assembly. > There are also separate lamps for the temperature dial and fan speed buttons > as well, so be sure to replace them, too. > > Check out the details at: > > http://gallery.me.com/dpenoff#100243 > > Let me know if you have any questions. > > Dan > > > > --- On Fri, 7/16/10, LWB250 wrote: > >> From: LWB250 >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACC Buttons - back lights >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 9:40 PM >> You'll have to remove the pushbutton >> module and pull the buttons off. >> >> Give me a few minutes and I'll upload some pictures to my >> web site. I've documented the complete R&R of a >> pushbutton unit for the later (horizontal) ACC system. >> >> In that tear down you'll see how to remove the buttons and >> where the lamps are located. Might as well buy a whole >> set since you'll be in there. That's what I always >> did... >> >> More in a few, as I am updating my web site as it is right >> now. Good timing on your part! >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> --- On Fri, 7/16/10, LarryT >> wrote: >> >>> From: LarryT >>> Subject: [MBZ] ACC Buttons - back lights >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 9:31 PM >>> Hi Gang >>> The push buttons on my ACC panel (91 300D) used to >> have >>> lights - I need to find how to replace the bulb/s - >>> >>> Have searched the manual without any luck - >>> >>> Suggestions? Thx - >>> LarryT >>> 91 300D >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How to start a very dormant W123 turbodiesel
the head swap should be no worse than a head gasket replacement... But I can understand your concerns about getting cruft in the bores... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 16, 2010, at 15:12, andrew strasfogel wrote: > I've already eliminated a head swap as too risky to attempt by anyone but a > pro. Besides, I love the idea of scavenging another parts car. > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Fmiser wrote: > >>> andrew strasfogel wrote: >> >>> I'm negotiating to purchase a scrap-grade 1985 300TD that was >>> totaled back in 2004. The car is virtually complete, although >>> all I really crave is a decent 300TD engine to transplant into >>> my 1985 300 pseudo-TD. Transport on a flatbed would probably >>> be under $300. >>> >>> The vehicle "ran well" at the time of the collision (so the >>> story goes). As the other driver was clearly at fault, the >>> owner received a generous settlement and also kept the car in >>> his yard for the past 6 years. Unfortunately, he cannot >>> jump-start it now. >>> >>> I am wondering whether I should take a chance on the car - >>> what could I do differently to get the motor running? Is >>> there a procedure to follow to start a long-dormant >>> turbodiesel? Would fuel flow have something to do with it? >> >> Possibly. Try a fresh reserve of fuel patched in at the >> prefilter under the hood - like the procedure for Diesel Purge. >> Or even use Diesel Purge. >> >>> Would a new battery potentially get it started (as opposed to >>> a jump start)? >> >> The engine requires a lot of current. Unless the jumper cables >> are Monster Cable, odds are the voltage drop caused by the small >> cable will drop the voltage at the starter motor so much in >> won't really spin fast enough. And if the old battery was left >> in, it too would contribute to voltage drop. >> >> A strong battery in the battery box may be all it needs. >> >>> In a worst case scenario it will NEVER start >>> due to low compression, but given the low price he's asking >>> Ihe would not want to take the time to perform a compression >>> test for me. >> >> But even if the compression is low, it still has the head with >> the pump - so you could swap heads and get your SLS working. >> >> -- Philip >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel - $900 (Plattsburgh)
I'd bet this one is the guy who bought the engine from my 190D. He tried to sell me this car. I don't remember what he said about it but there was something significantly wrong... He seemed like a fair schyster. -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:25:34 -0400 From: Frederick W Moir To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel - $900 (Plattsburgh) Message-ID: <4c6ae22e.2040...@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Not mine either. Fred Moir Lynn MA Klatta on! Original Message Subject: Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel - $900 (Plattsburgh) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:23:14 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/1902675060.html to contact the person who posted this. Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel Date: 2010-08-16, 7:55PM Beaufiful 1987 Mercedes 300SDL 290K Miles runs and drive good. $900CASH The negatives; 2 windows and blower not working Need a rear muffler The Positives Nice , Nice body Almost no rust No accident Excellent engine !!! $900.00 Must sell, NO MAIL, I DONT HAVE TIME FOR SPAMMER AND PARASITES !!! S E R I O U S ONLY 518 335 0438 * Location: Plattsburgh * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/1902675060.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Overheating - proven to be lack of waterpump output
Did you block the thermostat open or just put a hole in it? Did you let the car warm up during this test? MB thermostats are not like other thermostats, and MB cooling systems don't work like other cooling systems. A hole in the thermostat does not mean coolant is circulating, the car can still overheat. If you block the thermostat open it'll force coolant through the radiator... IIRC there are some waterpumps with cheaper vanes that sheer off, or maybe you've just got a defective one? It happens... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:04:03 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Robert Bigham To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Overheating - proven to be lack of waterpump output Message-ID: <1914765.1282071845367.javamail.r...@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello all Engine 102.980 Has anyone else had overheating from no waterpump output? I like to never found the cause of my overheating. Mercifully, it's a hot weather thing only. You might not beleive some of the speculations as to the cause. Not the radiator. New a year or so back; came from the fatherland. 20 deg drop from head to bottom inlet on pump. Water pump Meyle new at same time. Not the cap; same reason as radiator. Not thermostat; same reason. No loss of coolant. Temperature gauge moves inexorably toward the top, particularly at low speed/idle. Does not reach red mark (shut off first). No coolant loss. Laser thermometer says temperature gauge in dash essentially correct. Radiator tubes or heat exchanger fins not blocked anywhere. Stop engine, it depressurizes and cools off pretty quickly. Gutted old thermostat to make gasketed plate with hole about 1 in. diameter: made it worse if anything. Finally, disconnect top hose at radiator, lay it on top of tank, block top radiator nozzle, top up coolant, start engine. No water pump output. Problem found. How did this happen? Pump makes no noise; seems OK until shown to have no output. Pump not off yet. Several are interested to see it when it comes off. Argh! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel color
Here's the Wurth Paint that matches the OEM paint. Not sure about the PN - but the look is right -- Good luck - LarryT 91 300D "In God We Trust" -- From: "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:56 PM To: Subject: [MBZ] Wheel color Anybody got the paint code for 15 hole wheels and/or 8 hole wheels? From Paintchip.com, it looks like the number is G8081. Anyone know if this is right for 8 hole wheels? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel - $900 (Plattsburgh)
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Frederick W Moir wrote: > http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/1902675060.html > "No time for parasites?" But that huge trunk is just right for my tapeworm collection! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 300 TD - $200 (Shelburne )
Cool. I hear Curt is looking for a 240D turbo engine. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Have you guys seen this new hotness for the W124?
What do you mean by spring buffers? -Rolf On 08/17/2010 01:52 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Rolf wrote: What exactly do you mean by wheel geometry? -Rolf Change in suspension measurements, including but not limited to those that are part of an alignment job, during changes in suspension load, steering angle, and slip angle. It's dynamic rather than static. Wheel or suspension geometry is the reason why "upgrading" suspension parts ad hoc is a bad idea. The suspension of the 124 was carefully designed to behave a certain way in use. If you want to ruin the ride and handling of the car, by all means slap some shorter springs and stiffer shocks on it. If you want to do it right, change over to Sportline parts, including the proper spring buffers for your car (which vary by VIN). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel - $900 (Plattsburgh)
Not mine either. Fred Moir Lynn MA Klatta on! Original Message Subject:Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel - $900 (Plattsburgh) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:23:14 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/1902675060.html to contact the person who posted this. Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel Date: 2010-08-16, 7:55PM Beaufiful 1987 Mercedes 300SDL 290K Miles runs and drive good. $900CASH The negatives; 2 windows and blower not working Need a rear muffler The Positives Nice , Nice body Almost no rust No accident Excellent engine !!! $900.00 Must sell, NO MAIL, I DONT HAVE TIME FOR SPAMMER AND PARASITES !!! S E R I O U S ONLY 518 335 0438 * Location: Plattsburgh * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/1902675060.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 300 TD - $200 (Shelburne )
Yes, I wonder why all the good deals up there... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 3:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 300 TD - $200 (Shelburne ) On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Frederick W Moir wrote: > http://westernmass.craigslist.org/pts/1901198649.html Why are these kind of deals always on the other side of the country from me? I could really use the spare transmission vacuum doohickeys and thingamabobs to help diagnose my '87, which is shifting harshly yet again... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Overheating - proven to be lack of waterpump output
If you have a good thermostat installed, all water pump output would stay within the engine and I would not expect anything to come out of the top radiator hose until normal engine temperature was reached and the t-stat opened. If the car has your gutted t-stat with hole installed, all bets are off as to where the water pump output would go. Some would probably flow out the top radiator hose. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Robert Bigham Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 3:04 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Overheating - proven to be lack of waterpump output Hello all Engine 102.980 Has anyone else had overheating from no waterpump output? I like to never found the cause of my overheating. Mercifully, it's a hot weather thing only. You might not beleive some of the speculations as to the cause. Not the radiator. New a year or so back; came from the fatherland. 20 deg drop from head to bottom inlet on pump. Water pump Meyle new at same time. Not the cap; same reason as radiator. Not thermostat; same reason. No loss of coolant. Temperature gauge moves inexorably toward the top, particularly at low speed/idle. Does not reach red mark (shut off first). No coolant loss. Laser thermometer says temperature gauge in dash essentially correct. Radiator tubes or heat exchanger fins not blocked anywhere. Stop engine, it depressurizes and cools off pretty quickly. Gutted old thermostat to make gasketed plate with hole about 1 in. diameter: made it worse if anything. Finally, disconnect top hose at radiator, lay it on top of tank, block top radiator nozzle, top up coolant, start engine. No water pump output. Problem found. How did this happen? Pump makes no noise; seems OK until shown to have no output. Pump not off yet. Several are interested to see it when it comes off. Argh! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 300 TD - $200 (Shelburne )
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Frederick W Moir wrote: > http://westernmass.craigslist.org/pts/1901198649.html Why are these kind of deals always on the other side of the country from me? I could really use the spare transmission vacuum doohickeys and thingamabobs to help diagnose my '87, which is shifting harshly yet again... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Overheating - proven to be lack of waterpump output
Hello all Engine 102.980 Has anyone else had overheating from no waterpump output? I like to never found the cause of my overheating. Mercifully, it's a hot weather thing only. You might not beleive some of the speculations as to the cause. Not the radiator. New a year or so back; came from the fatherland. 20 deg drop from head to bottom inlet on pump. Water pump Meyle new at same time. Not the cap; same reason as radiator. Not thermostat; same reason. No loss of coolant. Temperature gauge moves inexorably toward the top, particularly at low speed/idle. Does not reach red mark (shut off first). No coolant loss. Laser thermometer says temperature gauge in dash essentially correct. Radiator tubes or heat exchanger fins not blocked anywhere. Stop engine, it depressurizes and cools off pretty quickly. Gutted old thermostat to make gasketed plate with hole about 1 in. diameter: made it worse if anything. Finally, disconnect top hose at radiator, lay it on top of tank, block top radiator nozzle, top up coolant, start engine. No water pump output. Problem found. How did this happen? Pump makes no noise; seems OK until shown to have no output. Pump not off yet. Several are interested to see it when it comes off. Argh! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 300 TD - $200 (Shelburne )
Not Mine etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Original Message Subject:1987 Mercedes 300 TD - $200 (Shelburne ) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:58:40 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://westernmass.craigslist.org/pts/1901198649.html to contact the person who posted this. 1987 Mercedes 300 TD Date: 2010-08-16, 8:11AM Got rear-ended this winter no time to fix 87 MB 300 turbo runs great 144K on the ticker front half of car usable AC still works good drivable !back is pretty well smashed no low ballers please I know what this is worth. Need to get off of property ASAP NEEDS TO GO!!! make offer FAST or it goes to the salvage yard by the weekend! $ 300 B.O. NEEDS TO GO ! LAST CHANCE! I NEED THIS GONE !!! P.S. If I don't contact you its MY choice!!! after all this is America and I can do what I want!! * Location: Shelburne * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://westernmass.craigslist.org/pts/1901198649.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wheel color
Anybody got the paint code for 15 hole wheels and/or 8 hole wheels? From Paintchip.com, it looks like the number is G8081. Anyone know if this is right for 8 hole wheels? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Have you guys seen this new hotness for the W124?
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Rolf wrote: > What exactly do you mean by wheel geometry? > > -Rolf Change in suspension measurements, including but not limited to those that are part of an alignment job, during changes in suspension load, steering angle, and slip angle. It's dynamic rather than static. Wheel or suspension geometry is the reason why "upgrading" suspension parts ad hoc is a bad idea. The suspension of the 124 was carefully designed to behave a certain way in use. If you want to ruin the ride and handling of the car, by all means slap some shorter springs and stiffer shocks on it. If you want to do it right, change over to Sportline parts, including the proper spring buffers for your car (which vary by VIN). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What to watch out for?
Thought for a moment that the 81 300SD was still a W116, but I guess it's the first year W126. So maybe there are "early" model issues that were not sorted out until later years? I don't know what those might be specifically. Allan Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes: > Yes, the front torsion bar can break, as can anything. THe 126 is an > amazing car, even 30 years later. Check the usual things, blowby, > transmission shifting, body, interior, Wandering or following tracks > indicates worn front end parts. Stand 30-50' behind and look at rear > wheel camber. Tops in/bottoms out indicates a rear subframe/suspension > rebuild is needed. > > >>Going to look at at 1981300SD. >> >>What should I look out for? >> >> I am sure this has been asked a thousand times but if you don't mind >> responding, I will appreciate it. >> >> The price seems low so I am concerned that there may be something >> bad but the fellow says it is being driven and >>needs nothing. >> >> Apart from the usual engine and transmission concerns with any old >> vehicle, what might I worry about with this one? >> >>is this one of the models that has issues with the sway bar ends breaking off? >> >>Randy >> >> >>___ >>http://www.okiebenz.com >>For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wheel color
Anybody got the paint code for 15 hole wheels and/or 8 hole wheels? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Have you guys seen this new hotness for the W124?
What exactly do you mean by wheel geometry? -Rolf On 08/17/2010 12:02 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Rolf wrote: As far as wheel geometry its all configurable on the W124, without touching anything you will have more camber. Wheel geometry and alignment are not the same thing. I don't see the point of buying an aftermarket kit of questionable design to improve the W124's handling when the complete Sportline setup is still available from the factory (with the exception of the steering box, which wouldn't be in the Tire Rack kit anyway). I bet Rusty can beat $700 on those parts easy too. That's the way to improve handling without compromising ride. A Sportline W124 handles better than any other four-door sedan from the mid-'80s except a 5-series BMW or a 2.3-16, and it's a lot more comfortable. But it's never going to win any autocrosses. If you want a go-cart, get something else. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL win for the day
It was the scammer line that was the win, not the car :D On 08/17/2010 11:04 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Funny line about the scammers, but the lack of details on the "over $4.5K in work done" and the "is in TOP shape for its age" makes me think the seller has unrealistic expectations of value. To get $6500 for a W123 300D it would need to be darn near perfect. Allan On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:33 -0400, "Rolf" wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/1903338766.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300 SD THINGS TO LOOK FOR
Yep--my swaybar broke. Damn near no way to tell until it does, aside from disassembly. Got mine fixed for $650--my indy cut the rusted end off, and installed a new end that fit like a collar over the cut-off end of the sway bar. Installed it with set screws into machined flats on the bar, and metallic epoxy. Sounds mickey-mouse, I know, but 50k miles later, its still holding fine, and I've driven very hard over very rough, frost-heaved Maine roads. Great cars. My 82 has 333k on it, averages 28 (will get 30 at a steady 60), and gets driven 120 miles a day. The undercoating is so good on these cars that "no rust" on the body can be deceptive, however--in addition to the swaybar end, I had to replace the LR control arm because it rusted out from the inside and deformed. I've also replaced the ACC and the vacuum pump. But no complaints from me. Plenty of power, and a better ride and more room than a 123, yet with the bulletproof iron 617. And nowadays, they're no more expensive than 123s. Dan Des Moines 82 300SD, 333k ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alas, No Lexus....
> From: lwb...@yahoo.com > Took delivery of a 2004 Ford Focus ZTW wagon yesterday. 124k, one owner, > local (Florida) car, full service records, maintained by local dealer on the > recommended schedule. Gray with gray leather (yes, leather!) interior. Have the ignition lock cylinder changed. My girlfriends sister has one of these and she has been stranded twice with lock cylinder problems. A reputable locksmith will be familiar with the problem. The last one to do my gf's sisters car said that Ford Focus lock problems put his daughter through college. I talked with him and there is an upgraded cylinder that can be put in from another Ford vehicle, that doesn't break. As Marshall said about MB, one key only on the keyring will help too. http://www.carcomplaints.com/Ford/Focus/2004/accessories-interior/index.shtml Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What to watch out for?
Thanks for the input. Hate to think about selling the 115 but I do like the bigger ones (and my wife says I cannot keep them all). Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:56 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What to watch out for? Yes, the front torsion bar can break, as can anything. THe 126 is an amazing car, even 30 years later. Check the usual things, blowby, transmission shifting, body, interior, Wandering or following tracks indicates worn front end parts. Stand 30-50' behind and look at rear wheel camber. Tops in/bottoms out indicates a rear subframe/suspension rebuild is needed. >Going to look at at 1981300SD. > >What should I look out for? > >I am sure this has been asked a thousand times but if you don't mind >responding, I will appreciate it. > >The price seems low so I am concerned that there may be something >bad but the fellow says it is being driven and >needs nothing. > >Apart from the usual engine and transmission concerns with any old >vehicle, what might I worry about with this one? > >is this one of the models that has issues with the sway bar ends breaking off? > >Randy > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Have you guys seen this new hotness for the W124?
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Rolf wrote: > As far as wheel geometry its all configurable on the W124, without touching > anything you will have more camber. Wheel geometry and alignment are not the same thing. I don't see the point of buying an aftermarket kit of questionable design to improve the W124's handling when the complete Sportline setup is still available from the factory (with the exception of the steering box, which wouldn't be in the Tire Rack kit anyway). I bet Rusty can beat $700 on those parts easy too. That's the way to improve handling without compromising ride. A Sportline W124 handles better than any other four-door sedan from the mid-'80s except a 5-series BMW or a 2.3-16, and it's a lot more comfortable. But it's never going to win any autocrosses. If you want a go-cart, get something else. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What to watch out for?
Yes, the front torsion bar can break, as can anything. THe 126 is an amazing car, even 30 years later. Check the usual things, blowby, transmission shifting, body, interior, Wandering or following tracks indicates worn front end parts. Stand 30-50' behind and look at rear wheel camber. Tops in/bottoms out indicates a rear subframe/suspension rebuild is needed. Going to look at at 1981300SD. What should I look out for? I am sure this has been asked a thousand times but if you don't mind responding, I will appreciate it. The price seems low so I am concerned that there may be something bad but the fellow says it is being driven and needs nothing. Apart from the usual engine and transmission concerns with any old vehicle, what might I worry about with this one? is this one of the models that has issues with the sway bar ends breaking off? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Old FSM CD-ROM availability [was: ML320 status]
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: > On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:06:59 -0700 Alex Chamberlain > wrote: > >> http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/9124/?requestedDocId=9124 >> > No listing for 124 nor 126. That's because cars before 1995 or so are under the purview of the M-B Classic Center: http://www.classictechlit.mbusa.com/MB/ I bought the W116 CD-ROM not long ago (I don't have a 116, but the info on the 6.9's suspension is applicable to my 500SEL), and it is still listed as available, but the 124 and 126 CDs apparently are not---so you can BitTorrent them, or ask someone here off-list to burn a copy for you, with a clear conscience. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What to watch out for?
By the way - he says it has about 181K miles on it and no rust. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] What to watch out for? Going to look at at 1981300SD. What should I look out for? I am sure this has been asked a thousand times but if you don't mind responding, I will appreciate it. The price seems low so I am concerned that there may be something bad but the fellow says it is being driven and needs nothing. Apart from the usual engine and transmission concerns with any old vehicle, what might I worry about with this one? is this one of the models that has issues with the sway bar ends breaking off? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What to watch out for?
Going to look at at 1981300SD. What should I look out for? I am sure this has been asked a thousand times but if you don't mind responding, I will appreciate it. The price seems low so I am concerned that there may be something bad but the fellow says it is being driven and needs nothing. Apart from the usual engine and transmission concerns with any old vehicle, what might I worry about with this one? is this one of the models that has issues with the sway bar ends breaking off? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OM602 with SLS
This must be what Ron Dwelle's 190D euro looks like under the hood, but I think it's a 250D in the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edHzfwo2Utc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL win for the day
Allan Streib wrote: Funny line about the scammers, but the lack of details on the "over $4.5K in work done" and the "is in TOP shape for its age" makes me think the seller has unrealistic expectations of value. To get $6500 for a W123 300D it would need to be darn near perfect. And if I were in the market for a $6500 W123, I'd not be looking for a car that 'runs on veggie oil'. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL win for the day
Funny line about the scammers, but the lack of details on the "over $4.5K in work done" and the "is in TOP shape for its age" makes me think the seller has unrealistic expectations of value. To get $6500 for a W123 300D it would need to be darn near perfect. Allan On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:33 -0400, "Rolf" wrote: > http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/1903338766.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL win for the day
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: New Michelin tires
Ah, is this the Tweel concept? On Aug 17, 2010 9:00 AM, "archer" wrote: Also: http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulletin/f9/see-through-tires-134681/ New Michelin Tires... Look for them in August. These tires are made in South Carolina, USA. SEE THROUGH TIRES Radical new tire design by Michelin. The next generation of tires. They had a pair at the Philadelphia car show. Yes, those are 'spoke' like connections to the inner part of the tire from the outside tread 'wrap!' The next picture shows how odd it looks in motion... Makes you wonder how the ride feels doesn't it? These tires are airless and are scheduled to be out on the market very soon. The bad news for law enforcement is that spike strips will not work on these. Just think of the impact on existing technology: A.. No more air valves... B. No more air compressors at gas stations... C. No more repair kits... D. No more flats... These are actual pictures taken at the South Carolina Michelin Test Center __._,_.___ . __,_._,___ -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 74959 bytes Desc: not available URL: < http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100817/cdde90ac/attachment.jpe > -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 50996 bytes Desc: not available URL: < http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100817/cdde90ac/attachment-0001.jpe > -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 70458 bytes Desc: not available URL: < http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100817/cdde90ac/attachment-0002.jpe > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Have you guys seen this new hotness for the W124?
Lowering a car will not necessarily make the ride harsh. That is
controlled more by the shocks. The Bilstein sports, for instance, are a
3 valved body, HD is 2 valves and comfort is 1 valve. Each valve
controls the rate and speed of movement of the shock.
As far as wheel geometry its all configurable on the W124, without
touching anything you will have more camber. Luckily this is adjustable
in the front and rear. I am not overly familiar with the rear on the
W124 but on my W123 the rear is not adjustable. As such the greater the
drop the greater the toe in and camber. I had to take it very easy
applying throttle in the rain, but cutting up curves in the mountain is
incredible. I have always wanted to take a G force meter with me for a
ride up GA129, it has very wide lanes with high banked and very short
switch backs in places. Lots of fun.
I am doing my shopping, if the H&R sport springs are truly progressive
rate I may take those over the touring cup kit. The reviews seem to
point to the touring kit being less harsh than the Bilstein sports with
lowering springs. According to some the Bilstein sports are harsher than
the sportline. Lots of options and very few people ever use more than
one combo, so getting accurate reviews is difficult.
I was extremely pleased with the vogtland springs/bilstein HD combo on
the W123 but after 4 years the shocks are quite serviceable but on the
trailing edge of what I like. I really wish they had made bilstein
sports for the W123.
-Rolf
On 08/16/2010 10:50 PM, OK Don wrote:
That's what I thought. I agree with you on the Bilsteins, I've had similar
experiences.
So, what does the sportline kit do/have to lower the chassis, yet keep the
wheels properly aligned?
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Dieselhead<126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
To answer OK Don's question: Lowering the car 1.3 inches will make it ride
something like a WWI Liberty truck. Or it could make it swim like a 75 gm
station wagon. ("Right full rudder""Aye aye Sir" "She will start to
come about soon Sir...")
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[MBZ] Fw: New Michelin tires
Also: http://www.acura-legend.com/vbulletin/f9/see-through-tires-134681/ New Michelin Tires... Look for them in August. These tires are made in South Carolina, USA. SEE THROUGH TIRES Radical new tire design by Michelin. The next generation of tires. They had a pair at the Philadelphia car show. Yes, those are 'spoke' like connections to the inner part of the tire from the outside tread 'wrap!' The next picture shows how odd it looks in motion... Makes you wonder how the ride feels doesn't it? These tires are airless and are scheduled to be out on the market very soon. The bad news for law enforcement is that spike strips will not work on these. Just think of the impact on existing technology: A.. No more air valves... B. No more air compressors at gas stations... C. No more repair kits... D. No more flats... These are actual pictures taken at the South Carolina Michelin Test Center __._,_.___ . __,_._,___ -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 74959 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100817/cdde90ac/attachment.jpe> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 50996 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100817/cdde90ac/attachment-0001.jpe> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 70458 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100817/cdde90ac/attachment-0002.jpe> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lets talk tire pressure
I still need to do that (check subframe mounts when subframe is hanging) with mine. Hopefully tonight I can make some time. Saturday I jacked up the car and took a hard look at all the links, and the lower control arm aka spring link was the ugliest. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 8:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lets talk tire pressure Yes, and if you see shiny polished aluminum on the body side and all the rubber on the subframe side when it hangs, stop wasting time speculating, and change the rear subframe mounts. >Curt, et al. > My old '85 190E (RIP) used to feel like it was in a fitful >cross-wind whilst driving along the highway at 60 ish. Bad rear sub >frame mounts. Jack up the car and put jack stands under the body, >letting the wheels and suspension hang, the mounts will partly separate >if bad. >YMMV >Fred Moir >Lynn MA >Diesel preferred. > >On 8/16/2010 10:38 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: >>So the Red '84 190D isn't handling the way I'd want it to. If it were >>a snowmobile I'd say "it darts" which is to say it'll twitch side to >>side when heading down the road at 45mph or more. If you twitch the >>steering wheel back and forth nothing happens... >> >>I'm thinking tire pressure so this morning I checked, 40psi all >>around. Sidewall max says 44 so we're still safe there. I pulled the >>fronts down to 36 and took a test drive which seemed to show some >>improvement but its still not right. Rear shocks are new as are all >>the rear links. All the suspension seems to be tight, confirmed by my >>Indy and the inspection station dude 165,000 miles on the car. >> >>These are 14" wheels I forget the exact tire size but the sidewalls >>are big Maybe this afternoon I'll go all the way down to factory >>pressure and see what happens. On my other 190D I was running a bit >>above factory (factory is 28/32 I think I was running >>30/34) which seemed to no hurt anything. It seems like the 4psi >>difference is more important than the actual tire pressure... >> >>Ideas? >> >>-Curt >> >> >> >> >>___ >>http://www.okiebenz.com >>For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives >>http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives >http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 project
Here's another great line: "Engine runs good but needs a tuneup" Translation: Engine needs a valve job/won't start. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:01 PM, OK Don wrote: > That would be my guess --- > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Allan Streib > wrote: > > > http://terrehaute.craigslist.org/cto/1896683143.html > > > > Looks fairly nice in the photos I'm wondering though if "in storage > > for 4 year" means "sitting in that field for 4 years" > > > > Allan > > -- > > > > -- > OK Don > 2001 ML320 > 1992 300D 2.5T > 1991 300E (for sale) > 1990 300D 2.5T > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
