Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50
Well, if no one else remembers that comment my memory must be faulty. I'm sure not going to search the archives looking for oil threads LOL ;-) LarryT 91 300D youroil.net -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 4:36 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50 Negative, unless you can find a post specifically supporting that. -Curt Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:12:42 -0400 From: Larry l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50 Message-ID: 3D0AF867FD214545B28A8C82C78E7E4D@Acer Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I thought we said a while back that M1 15W50 wasn't good for diesels because of Soot suspension (or lack of it)? LarryT youroil.net -Original Message- From: Allan Streib Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 5:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: I emailed Mobil and got a reply that since CF was discontinued they removed it from the bottle but that it still meets CF spec. I thought CI and CI-4 replaced CF years ago or is that not how that works? Well that's good to know, but I wonder if it still meets the MB 229.1 spec that it used to. Specifically the oil on that spec sheet was Mobil 1 Tri-Synthetic Formula 15W-50 229.1 Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Pre-chambers
Hoping to get some beer money, I need to get the pre-chambers out of the cracked head from my wagon so I can take it to the aluminum recycler. How to get them out? BFH? I removed the locking rings with hammer and chisel, and beat on one for a bit. Pounded it flush, but now it doesn't want to go any further. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pre-chambers
Wrong way to do that. You need to find the two tools for this job -- or the combination tool. It screws into the hole where the injector goes and has a wrench that fits in the slots to unscrew the locking ring and a slide hammer to pull the pre-chamber out. DO NOT use a hammer on the end of the pre-chamber on the other side of the head in an attempt to drive them out. You will surely flare the end, making it a grinder job instead of a slide hammer job. You can improvise the toos - - weld some table to a bar to unscrew or weld some tabs to a large bolt that slips in as a tool to unscrew the locking rings, and weld a bolt that fits into the injector thread (or an old injector body) to a slide hammer to pull the pre-chambers. It's likely you will raise a huge burr on the locking rings using a chisel, and they won't come out. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pre-chambers
The slide hammer deal that Peter mentioned can be fashioned from a bicycle crank puller, but it might be cheaper to visit fastenal and get a bolt with the same threading and use that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pre-chambers
So the injector threads into the pre-chamber, right? I will take it by the machine shop when I pick up the new head, see if they will pull them for free. If not, then I may have to make a puller. What about getting the valves out, how does that keeper come off? Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Wrong way to do that. You need to find the two tools for this job -- or the combination tool. It screws into the hole where the injector goes and has a wrench that fits in the slots to unscrew the locking ring and a slide hammer to pull the pre-chamber out. DO NOT use a hammer on the end of the pre-chamber on the other side of the head in an attempt to drive them out. You will surely flare the end, making it a grinder job instead of a slide hammer job. You can improvise the toos - - weld some table to a bar to unscrew or weld some tabs to a large bolt that slips in as a tool to unscrew the locking rings, and weld a bolt that fits into the injector thread (or an old injector body) to a slide hammer to pull the pre-chambers. It's likely you will raise a huge burr on the locking rings using a chisel, and they won't come out. Peter _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pre-chambers
Cheap is good, more $ left for beer and parts. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: The slide hammer deal that Peter mentioned can be fashioned from a bicycle crank puller, but it might be cheaper to visit fastenal and get a bolt with the same threading and use that. _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crack heads versus rod benders
The earlier heads on the 3.0 liter engines tended to crack when overheated. I think they got it figured out by the #21 heads (though I might be wrong on which number is which). Kaleb is correct, the 3.5 liter engines bent rods. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: The 3.5 was the rod bender Sent from my iPhone On Jul 3, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: We are having a bit of an argument on the Ozbenz forum as to which engine had which problem, up for discussion is a 87 230TE which has had a OM603.912 installed, I seem to remember that these engines had some heads that where prone to cracking and another forum member reckons that the heads are OK but they bend the conrods. I am thinking that it was the larger 3.5 liter engine that had the conrod problems? So which is it, as this comes up on this list now and again but I never pay attention cause I have neither of these engines. Hendrik who is confused, as usual ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pre-chambers
Max. I have an used adapter for injectors from Sir Tools. It is my spare and worn, yours if you want it. If you have not mushroomed the tips of the pre-chambers too badly, or if you can cut them off flush, this tool may be of use to you or your machine shop. Pre-chambers must be extracted using an appropriate tool, a (big) slide hammer, I don't believe that MB has a procedure requiring a BFH! Removing a pre-chamber is not complicated but they can be almost seized in place by decades of carbon buildup. The older heads have upright injectors and the newer have inclined, Q. do both heads use the same type? The later pre-chambers are held in place by an inside splined ring (special tool), the older ones use a top slotted ring. (BFH and chisel?) Confused yet? The delete key is you know where. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 7/4/2011 8:59 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Hoping to get some beer money, I need to get the pre-chambers out of the cracked head from my wagon so I can take it to the aluminum recycler. How to get them out? BFH? I removed the locking rings with hammer and chisel, and beat on one for a bit. Pounded it flush, but now it doesn't want to go any further. Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pre-chambers
Max Dillon wrote: What about getting the valves out, how does that keeper come off? Compress the spring until the valve end and split keeper stand proud of the upper spring seat. They make spring compressors for this purpose. I like the big clamp style, like KD 380/383/385. Mine's an old 380 IIRC. Remove keeper with dental pick and small magnet. Removal is easier than installation, it can be a bear getting both halves simultaneously completely installed. The last valve job I had done, I didn't check the keepers when I got it back from the machine shop, they'd gotten half a keeper one notch from fully installed and I noticed it as I was installing pushrods and rockers, AFTER I'd bolted the head to the back cylinder bank on a transverse V-6. Would have been a one minute job to fix it if I'd found it before I put the head on the engine. Had to fill the cylinder with rope, run the piston up to hold the valve closed, and use one of those little spring compressors that looks like a battery terminal lifter, all while stretching to reach back there. If you just want to remove them, sometimes you can get away with putting a deep socket over the spring seat and whacking it with a hammer until the keepers pop out. Once you get the rhythm, you can probably get them out in 1-3 whacks each. Keep a firm hold of the socket, it'll jump pretty good when the keeper falls entirely out and the spring extends fully. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] July 4, 2011
HAPPY 4TH ALL. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My afternoon working on MB's
Please note that I have deleted part of the message below to shorten it and relate to my response. What is the torque setting for the head bolts when you put it back together? Are you going to need a monster torque wrench? My son was working on an F250 Diesel and they needed a wrench capable of something like 500+ foot pounds. Randy On 03/07/2011 10:44 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Spent the afternoon working on my '95 E300 for a bit (fixed the other rear window using the 210 slider previously discussed) and then I dove into removing the head on my '87. So, exhaust came off, pulled turbo drain tube, finally wiggled the turbo supply oil line out of the block. It is time to loosen the head bolts! I'd ordered the Hazet bit from Rusty for the head bolts (triple square 10mm), and it was really nice to have. Didn't need it for all the bolts, but for the seven buried under the cam bearings it was very nice. Those head bolts are TIGHT! Needed the breaker bar to get them all loose. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My afternoon working on MB's
On 03/07/2011 11:16 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net writes: I soaked the exhaust nuts/bolts again (had soaked them all with PB Blaster a week or so ago) prior to starting on the '95 window, and when I returned they came off like butter. PB Blaster is really nice stuff, when you can give it time to work. I was a PB Blaster evangelist myself, until I tried ATF and acetone. Now THAT works like a charm. Allan My experience with that is that you sort of mix what you need when you need it as the acetone evaporates out too quickly to keep any around for any length of time. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel question
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:45 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: The wise man learn from others mistakes, and I wish to become wise as regards wheel use. I've learned more about MBZ wheels today than I knew existed. Grant, was it you who mentioned a few weeks back that you had a set of 15 or 16 inch Centra wheels from the '80s in storage? If so, those were probably meant for a 126 car and hence will fit your 123 if you get the right lug bolts. (And if you don't want those wheels, I still want to buy them from you...) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz E300 diesel - $2500 (Cape Coral FL)
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: http://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/cto/2475536178.html That sounds like a great deal even if the car needs a new Rusty trans! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My afternoon working on MB's
IIRC, you torque to given value - not all the great, then turn the bolt 90 degrees, let it sit for 15 minutes, then turn it another 90 degrees. These are strech bolts. You need to measure the shank of the old ones before re-using them to see if they're in tolerance or not. I just bought new bolts from Rusty. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Please note that I have deleted part of the message below to shorten it and relate to my response. What is the torque setting for the head bolts when you put it back together? Are you going to need a monster torque wrench? My son was working on an F250 Diesel and they needed a wrench capable of something like 500+ foot pounds. Randy On 03/07/2011 10:44 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Spent the afternoon working on my '95 E300 for a bit (fixed the other rear window using the 210 slider previously discussed) and then I dove into removing the head on my '87. So, exhaust came off, pulled turbo drain tube, finally wiggled the turbo supply oil line out of the block. It is time to loosen the head bolts! I'd ordered the Hazet bit from Rusty for the head bolts (triple square 10mm), and it was really nice to have. Didn't need it for all the bolts, but for the seven buried under the cam bearings it was very nice. Those head bolts are TIGHT! Needed the breaker bar to get them all loose. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My afternoon working on MB's
My experience is that acetone does not mix with Mobil 1 ATF - I just shake it got get the globs as small as possible, then squirt on liberally. I only mix what I need for the job at hand, and use it all. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 03/07/2011 11:16 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Max Dillonmeadedillon@bellsouth.**net meadedil...@bellsouth.net writes: I soaked the exhaust nuts/bolts again (had soaked them all with PB Blaster a week or so ago) prior to starting on the '95 window, and when I returned they came off like butter. PB Blaster is really nice stuff, when you can give it time to work. I was a PB Blaster evangelist myself, until I tried ATF and acetone. Now THAT works like a charm. Allan My experience with that is that you sort of mix what you need when you need it as the acetone evaporates out too quickly to keep any around for any length of time. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My afternoon working on MB's
I think it's 45 Nm first torque. 26! bolts total. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, you torque to given value - not all the great, then turn the bolt 90 degrees, let it sit for 15 minutes, then turn it another 90 degrees. These are strech bolts. You need to measure the shank of the old ones before re-using them to see if they're in tolerance or not. I just bought new bolts from Rusty. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Please note that I have deleted part of the message below to shorten it and relate to my response. What is the torque setting for the head bolts when you put it back together? Are you going to need a monster torque wrench? My son was working on an F250 Diesel and they needed a wrench capable of something like 500+ foot pounds. Randy On 03/07/2011 10:44 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Spent the afternoon working on my '95 E300 for a bit (fixed the other rear window using the 210 slider previously discussed) and then I dove into removing the head on my '87. So, exhaust came off, pulled turbo drain tube, finally wiggled the turbo supply oil line out of the block. It is time to loosen the head bolts! I'd ordered the Hazet bit from Rusty for the head bolts (triple square 10mm), and it was really nice to have. Didn't need it for all the bolts, but for the seven buried under the cam bearings it was very nice. Those head bolts are TIGHT! Needed the breaker bar to get them all loose. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon _ **_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/; To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com; -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pre-chambers
I'm interested! Is this adapter for a slide hammer or some other purpose? Do you have the part number? I'd like to look it up to see a picture. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Max. I have an used adapter for injectors from Sir Tools. It is my spare and worn, yours if you want it. If you have not mushroomed the tips of the pre-chambers too badly, or if you can cut them off flush, this tool may be of use to you or your machine shop. Pre-chambers must be extracted using an appropriate tool, a (big) slide hammer, I don't believe that MB has a procedure requiring a BFH! Removing a pre-chamber is not complicated but they can be almost seized in place by decades of carbon buildup. The older heads have upright injectors and the newer have inclined, Q. do both heads use the same type? The later pre-chambers are held in place by an inside splined ring (special tool), the older ones use a top slotted ring. (BFH and chisel?) Confused yet? The delete key is you know where. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 7/4/2011 8:59 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Hoping to get some beer money, I need to get the pre-chambers out of the cracked head from my wagon so I can take it to the aluminum recycler. How to get them out? BFH? I removed the locking rings with hammer and chisel, and beat on one for a bit. Pounded it flush, but now it doesn't want to go any further. Max _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M1 15w50
Larry l02tur...@comcast.net writes: Well, if no one else remembers that comment my memory must be faulty. I'm sure not going to search the archives looking for oil threads LOL ;-) I vaguely recall it. The way I remember it the 5W-40 (a/k/a M1 Delvac) was better at soot suspension but the 15W-50 was adequate, and diesel rated. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pre-chambers
Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net writes: Hoping to get some beer money, I need to get the pre-chambers out of the cracked head from my wagon so I can take it to the aluminum recycler. LOL. I once took a head with cams and everything still on it to the scrapyard and they paid me the aluminum price for the whole thing. I only later realized their mistake. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My afternoon working on MB's
Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca writes: On 03/07/2011 11:16 PM, Allan Streib wrote: I was a PB Blaster evangelist myself, until I tried ATF and acetone. Now THAT works like a charm. My experience with that is that you sort of mix what you need when you need it as the acetone evaporates out too quickly to keep any around for any length of time. Yes, unless you have a very-well sealed container. I mix it as needed. Roughly 50:50; the ratio doesn't seem to be all that important. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My afternoon working on MB's
Works out to be more expensive than PB, and likes to eat plastic from what I've found. Walt On Jul 4, 2011 1:57 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca writes: On 03/07/2011 11:16 PM, Allan Streib wrote: I was a PB Blaster evangelist myself, until I tried ATF and acetone. Now THAT works like a charm. My experience with that is that you sort of mix what you need when you need it as the acetone evaporates out too quickly to keep any around for any length of time. Yes, unless you have a very-well sealed container. I mix it as needed. Roughly 50:50; the ratio doesn't seem to be all that important. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel question
Alex, Thanks for your interest. Indeed I do still have the set of Centra wheels with caps and other bits like the right lug bolts. They are in decent condition with no curb rash and still shiney . They are 15 inch, btw. They do indeed fit the 123, in fact they came mounted on the 300D. I don't plan to use them on either 300 I have, I prefer the stock look. Email me direct if you wish, g2mann2 at gmail.com and perhaps we can make them yours. Grant... Phoenix, AZ On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:45 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: The wise man learn from others mistakes, and I wish to become wise as regards wheel use. I've learned more about MBZ wheels today than I knew existed. Grant, was it you who mentioned a few weeks back that you had a set of 15 or 16 inch Centra wheels from the '80s in storage? If so, those were probably meant for a 126 car and hence will fit your 123 if you get the right lug bolts. (And if you don't want those wheels, I still want to buy them from you...) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craig's internet problem
Did Craig ever make it online? Any specific help we can offer? Including things not computer, if that's what's needed. Thanks, -Tim On Jul 1, 2011 2:02 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: If the card is unpowered: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594535 If he has an interface and gets output from sudo /sbin/iwlist ethX scan Then I can get him through wpa-supplicant from the command line, once I'm back at work. -Tim On Jul 1, 2011 10:58 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] July 4, 2011
And also to you. I am riding up I95 in a Ford, but I hope all my fellow yanks have a Benz- and boom-filled day... not at the same time of course. And I hope you non-US folk also have a pleasant day. Best, Tim On Jul 4, 2011 11:45 AM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: HAPPY 4TH ALL. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craig's internet problem
Tim C wrote: Did Craig ever make it online? Any specific help we can offer? Including things not computer, if that's what's needed. He should be home, but he might be too busy to talk to us. I figure if he had functional wifi in the hotel room we'd have heard about it when it happened. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pre-chambers
Hi, Max. Number is :- M 0046 A little beat up but usable for your needs. Thread for the end of the slide hammer shaft is 1/2 x 13. Addy? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 7/4/2011 1:05 PM, Max Dillon wrote: I'm interested! Is this adapter for a slide hammer or some other purpose? Do you have the part number? I'd like to look it up to see a picture. Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pre-chambers
I had a precchamber ring puller made ar a machine shop, then finished it myself. THe thread pitch inside the ring is 2mm. As I recall we used a 1 dia rod, maybe a foot long. Cut the thread on one end, and welded a couple of big nuts on the other end. After I brought it home, I drilled a 3/8 hole through the threaded end, then used a 3/8 mill cutter in a drill to make the hole about 3/4 long by 3/8 wide. Then I cut the end off a small punch made from 3/8 square stock. This gave me a hard piece of 3/8 by 3/8 by ~1 1/2 to fit in the slot. To use: put one ring you screwed up by using a chisel on it on the threaded part. Screw the rod into the prechamber. Drop the square stock in the slots of the ring. screw the other ring down onto the square stock. Use a big wrench to unscrew the ring. Repeat as needed. After the rings are out, use the prechamber puller. It is also made from a foot or so of 1 rod. One end is threaded to fit the prechamber That is a 1mm pitch. The other end has a 5/8 UNC thread to screw onto the normal slide hammer puller. I had the puller made at a machine shop, and borrowed a slide hammer initially. Later, I got a 2 foot chunk of 5/8 rod, threaded the end, then welded a big nut on the other end for a stop and about 8-9 more 5/8 rod for a t handle. I found an old JD 2 cylinder wrist pin that weighs 4-5 lb and used that for the sliding hammer. I also used it once with a 10 lb weightlifting weight, but the wrist pin works better. Also, it is much easier to do this with the head still on the engine. Even the cast iron heads move around a lot while you are trying to pull prechambers. Hoping to get some beer money, I need to get the pre-chambers out of the cracked head from my wagon so I can take it to the aluminum recycler. How to get them out? BFH? I removed the locking rings with hammer and chisel, and beat on one for a bit. Pounded it flush, but now it doesn't want to go any further. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] We are back
After a week at the Glorieta Baptist Conference Center in Glorieta, NM, we are back home and have the computer set up and running. Nothing here was damaged. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We are back
Very good. Glad all is well. I know you are too. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 14:24:32 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] We are back After a week at the Glorieta Baptist Conference Center in Glorieta, NM, we are back home and have the computer set up and running. Nothing here was damaged. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We are back
Good to hear! After you evacuated, read that some residents left cars in middle of large parking lots to avoid loss. Good trick to remember for next time. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: After a week at the Glorieta Baptist Conference Center in Glorieta, NM, we are back home and have the computer set up and running. Nothing here was damaged. Craig _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We are back
Glad you're ok and all went well! I'd be skeptical of the parking lot thing... what if the asphalt catches fire? Walt On Jul 4, 2011 4:28 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Good to hear! After you evacuated, read that some residents left cars in middle of large parking lots to avoid loss. Good trick to remember for next time. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: After a week at the Glorieta Baptist Conference Center in Glorieta, NM, we are back home and have the computer set up and running. Nothing here was damaged. Craig _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We are back
Great news! Glad all is well despite the inconvenience. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: After a week at the Glorieta Baptist Conference Center in Glorieta, NM, we are back home and have the computer set up and running. Nothing here was damaged. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We are back
Goo deal great way to celebrate the 4th Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: After a week at the Glorieta Baptist Conference Center in Glorieta, NM, we are back home and have the computer set up and running. Nothing here was damaged. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We are back
That's Good News. Welcome Home On 7/4/2011 3:24 PM, Craig wrote: After a week at the Glorieta Baptist Conference Center in Glorieta, NM, we are back home and have the computer set up and running. Nothing here was damaged. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3743 - Release Date: 07/04/11 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We are back
Glad to hear that you suffered no damage. Welcome back. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: After a week at the Glorieta Baptist Conference Center in Glorieta, NM, we are back home and have the computer set up and running. Nothing here was damaged. OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
Alles. Does anyone have headlight assemblies for an 190DT that they would be willing to sell to me? On the web, the prices are high for some really used up lights. -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
Do you gave a dt? I guess I did not know that. If I keep mine I will need to some for me too Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Alles. Does anyone have headlight assemblies for an 190DT that they would be willing to sell to me? On the web, the prices are high for some really used up lights. -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fire near Los Alamos
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:18:02 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Craig wrote: So far the evacuation is only voluntary, so we don't have to leave. Begin your move east? Hey, now, there's a thought! :-) How is that prospect turning out for you - TN, correct? Northwest Georgia, almost in Tenessee. They called off their search for this year. Can I take your seat at LANL? OK by me, but I don't have the final say. Go to http://www.lanl.gov/ and click on the Careers tab for information, or go directly to http://www.hr.lanl.gov/JobListing/index.aspx?JobType=LANLRecScope=External for the job listings. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fire near Los Alamos
Hey Craig, My cousin just started his first day at Los Alamos fire dept yesterday, what perfect timing. Glad your back home safe and sound. We head back to Calif. in the AM after watching the fireworks in Sante Fe. tonight. Rory On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:18:02 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Craig wrote: So far the evacuation is only voluntary, so we don't have to leave. Begin your move east? Hey, now, there's a thought! :-) How is that prospect turning out for you - TN, correct? Northwest Georgia, almost in Tenessee. They called off their search for this year. Can I take your seat at LANL? OK by me, but I don't have the final say. Go to http://www.lanl.gov/ and click on the Careers tab for information, or go directly to http://www.hr.lanl.gov/JobListing/index.aspx?JobType=LANLRecScope=External for the job listings. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mandatory Evacuation Called
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:55:08 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I suspect Shirley is not eager to drive the van or the 240D, so the 420 goes with her. Yup. That's how it was. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mandatory Evacuation Called
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:08:59 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Good luck!! So you are driving the van packed full of stuff and the E420 is driven by the wife I presume? Yes, that's what we did. I even had Ori in her crate in the back of the van. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
Kaleb, et al. Have three of them. Youngest is white, Bent. 104kmi. Middle is Blue, daily driver 220kmi plus TMU Oldest is Conn, beige-ish (Smoke Silver) 140kmi. Getting closer to the road. Bent was hit in front, took out grill, radiator, fan, RH headlight. (Bosch Euro). Still have drivers side (L) H/L in so-so condition. This car was from Cape Cod and had been in at least two accidents, front and rear. The front clip forward of the shock towers had been torched off and another front end sorta blob welded on, new hood and fenders. This increased the rust activity started by the sea air. Paatz Cahr. My fantasy is to find a nice W124 300CE for a low price, won't need engine/trans, and swap in the engine/trans from Bent. Would also need some parts from a 300D of similar vintage. Dreams are free, it's reality that costs. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 7/4/2011 5:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Do you gave a dt? I guess I did not know that. If I keep mine I will need to some for me too Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Fred Moirfred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Alles. Does anyone have headlight assemblies for an 190DT that they would be willing to sell to me? On the web, the prices are high for some really used up lights. -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
I have one that I am not sure if I want to fix sell or part out. I would not mind having one. Are they fun to drive? What kind of mileage you get? I should post some pics and get opinions on if I should sell it or fix it Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Kaleb, et al. Have three of them. Youngest is white, Bent. 104kmi. Middle is Blue, daily driver 220kmi plus TMU Oldest is Conn, beige-ish (Smoke Silver) 140kmi. Getting closer to the road. Bent was hit in front, took out grill, radiator, fan, RH headlight. (Bosch Euro). Still have drivers side (L) H/L in so-so condition. This car was from Cape Cod and had been in at least two accidents, front and rear. The front clip forward of the shock towers had been torched off and another front end sorta blob welded on, new hood and fenders. This increased the rust activity started by the sea air. Paatz Cahr. My fantasy is to find a nice W124 300CE for a low price, won't need engine/trans, and swap in the engine/trans from Bent. Would also need some parts from a 300D of similar vintage. Dreams are free, it's reality that costs. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 7/4/2011 5:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Do you gave a dt? I guess I did not know that. If I keep mine I will need to some for me too Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Fred Moirfred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Alles. Does anyone have headlight assemblies for an 190DT that they would be willing to sell to me? On the web, the prices are high for some really used up lights. -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We are back
Happy Independence Day to Craig and Shirley. Glad to hear the 240D 3.0 is OK. Did you ever get a wifi connection established? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
You should sell it to me. You are getting rid of 123, 126 and 201, remember? Rick Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I have one that I am not sure if I want to fix sell or part out. I would not mind having one. Are they fun to drive? What kind of mileage you get? I should post some pics and get opinions on if I should sell it or fix it Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Kaleb, et al. Have three of them. Youngest is white, Bent. 104kmi. Middle is Blue, daily driver 220kmi plus TMU Oldest is Conn, beige-ish (Smoke Silver) 140kmi. Getting closer to the road. Bent was hit in front, took out grill, radiator, fan, RH headlight. (Bosch Euro). Still have drivers side (L) H/L in so-so condition. This car was from Cape Cod and had been in at least two accidents, front and rear. The front clip forward of the shock towers had been torched off and another front end sorta blob welded on, new hood and fenders. This increased the rust activity started by the sea air. Paatz Cahr. My fantasy is to find a nice W124 300CE for a low price, won't need engine/trans, and swap in the engine/trans from Bent. Would also need some parts from a 300D of similar vintage. Dreams are free, it's reality that costs. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 7/4/2011 5:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Do you gave a dt? I guess I did not know that. If I keep mine I will need to some for me too Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Fred Moirfred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Alles. Does anyone have headlight assemblies for an 190DT that they would be willing to sell to me? On the web, the prices are high for some really used up lights. -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
Kaleb, et al. The 190DT is a blast to drive. Reasonably fast, nimble and comfortable. Relatively easy to fix and parts are available. I get about 30 in the winter and about 31.5 in the summer. 34 once when I tooled along at 60 on cruise control. With the correct tires 2950 rpm equals 80 mph. I especially like the ability to accelerate up hill. What does yours need to be roadworthy? (Besides time and money). Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 7/4/2011 6:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have one that I am not sure if I want to fix sell or part out. I would not mind having one. Are they fun to drive? What kind of mileage you get? I should post some pics and get opinions on if I should sell it or fix it Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] July 4, 2011
and THANKS to all the brave service men women who are serving in foreign lands trying to keep us free! Viva Revolution! LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: glenn brown Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 11:45 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] July 4, 2011 HAPPY 4TH ALL. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craig's internet problem
On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 15:30:54 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Tim C wrote: Did Craig ever make it online? Any specific help we can offer? Including things not computer, if that's what's needed. He should be home, but he might be too busy to talk to us. I figure if he had functional wifi in the hotel room we'd have heard about it when it happened. You are right on all counts. Since Los Alamos is a very dusty place, and since I had removed our computer equipment for the evacuation, I decided to do a good cleaning of our main computer area. I didn't get back on line until late this morning. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We are back
On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 18:39:48 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Happy Independence Day to Craig and Shirley. Glad to hear the 240D 3.0 is OK. It is. Did you ever get a wifi connection established? No, eventhough I tried for several hours to do that. The USB-10N is going back to the store in Santa Fe (which, amazingly, is an appliance store that has a computer corner, and from which we have purchased a vent hood for our kitchen remodel -- when we go to get the hood the USB-10N will go along for a one-way ride). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We are out -- need wireless help
On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:26:39 -0400 Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: Linksys wusb600n or the new Linksys USB one. Available at Sam's Club, Wal-Mart, or cheaper refurbished from Amazon. Download the driver from ralink. Works in at least rhel, centos, fedora. I'm using 128 of them right now. I wish I had seen this before I went out and bought an Asus USB-N10. I could not get it to work with CentOS 5.6, even with downloading the latest driver from Realtek. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
So it will get about the same as a 124 2.5. I bought it with a bad tranny but the po just put it in and it quit again. it sounds like he did not get the converter locked in and sheared off the pump tabs. Other that that it needs headlight doors, has some rust spots here and there nothing real major that I recall Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Kaleb, et al. The 190DT is a blast to drive. Reasonably fast, nimble and comfortable. Relatively easy to fix and parts are available. I get about 30 in the winter and about 31.5 in the summer. 34 once when I tooled along at 60 on cruise control. With the correct tires 2950 rpm equals 80 mph. I especially like the ability to accelerate up hill. What does yours need to be roadworthy? (Besides time and money). Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 7/4/2011 6:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have one that I am not sure if I want to fix sell or part out. I would not mind having one. Are they fun to drive? What kind of mileage you get? I should post some pics and get opinions on if I should sell it or fix it Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 19:40:37 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: So it will get about the same as a 124 2.5. What is a 190DT? The same thing as a mis-named 300DT, a 190D with a turbo? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
Surrounds or whole assemblies? I have two of the former and one of the latter. Assuming that one from an '85 190D non-T will work. In fact I'm sure you gave me one of mine. I've also got a bunch of headlights... C'mon out and pick over the pile. -Curt Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:05:54 -0400 From: Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight. Message-ID: 4e122b32.7060...@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Alles. Does anyone have headlight assemblies for an 190DT that they would be willing to sell to me? On the web, the prices are high for some really used up lights. -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 1984 Mercedes 300CD Coupe - $900 (Grand Isle)
Not Mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:1984 Mercedes 300CD Coupe - $900 (Grand Isle) Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:39:36 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/2475852030.html to contact the person who posted this. 1984 Mercedes 300CD Coupe Date: 2011-07-03, 6:40PM 1984 300 CD Coupe in excellent mechanical condition. Reliably gets 30 mpg. just did diesel purge and oil change. new transmission in 2005 done by dealer. $900 OBO. phone preferred over email. call or text David at 802 363-6508. * Location: Grand Isle * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/2475852030.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18xOTcyNTE5NygGEyqoT1xxS8AA-Qx1E7WlrD25b-vV4IaI-v-TJZtYx8ZKbxfSEGxaKLrE5V_EcA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
I have a set. Let me know what you are wanting (reasonable) to pay and I can figure out the UPS ground for a total clay Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 4, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Fred Moir wrote: Alles. Does anyone have headlight assemblies for an 190DT that they would be willing to sell to me? On the web, the prices are high for some really used up lights. -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
Curt Raymond wrote: Surrounds or whole assemblies? I have two of the former and one of the latter. Assuming that one from an '85 190D non-T will work. AFAIK, 84-86 had 6x8 sealed beams and 87+ had flush faced headlamps with replaceable bulbs. I don't know if 87 and 93 are the same, or if there was another change in later years. I know my '86 has the sealed beams and my '87 has the permanent fixtures. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
Check the osram sylvania bulb interchange. I've found it to be quite acurate for most US spec vehicles. Walt On Jul 4, 2011 11:08 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: Surrounds or whole assemblies? I have two of the former and one of the latter. Assuming that one from an '85 190D non-T will work. AFAIK, 84-86 had 6x8 sealed beams and 87+ had flush faced headlamps with replaceable bulbs. I don't know if 87 and 93 are the same, or if there was another change in later years. I know my '86 has the sealed beams and my '87 has the permanent fixtures. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fire near Los Alamos
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 15:33:43 -0600 Rory amsoil...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Craig, My cousin just started his first day at Los Alamos fire dept yesterday, what perfect timing. Indeed! He just missed out on a lot of excitement. We head back to Calif. in the AM after watching the fireworks in Sante Fe. tonight. Not surprizingly, Los Alamos has no fireworks tonight. I did get a few pictures at about sunset of the hot spots on the hillsides south and west of where I live. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
They are different than the earlier style Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2011, at 7:51 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Surrounds or whole assemblies? I have two of the former and one of the latter. Assuming that one from an '85 190D non-T will work. In fact I'm sure you gave me one of mine. I've also got a bunch of headlights... C'mon out and pick over the pile. -Curt Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 17:05:54 -0400 From: Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight. Message-ID: 4e122b32.7060...@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Alles. Does anyone have headlight assemblies for an 190DT that they would be willing to sell to me? On the web, the prices are high for some really used up lights. -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:28:36 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: They are different than the earlier style SO WHAT IS A 190DT Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
A 190D wagon? Doesn't the T stand for wagon on that era? On Jul 4, 2011 11:41 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 22:28:36 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: They are different than the earlier style SO WHAT IS A 190DT Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
Craig wrote: SO WHAT IS A 190DT Shorthand for 190D 2.5 Turbo. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
a 190 with the DTs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
SO WHAT IS A 190DT There is no such thing as a 190DT There is no 201 wagon As some people insist that their 300D is a DT or TD, it is neither; and some people want to call their 190D a DT, it is not. It is a 190D. people mistakenly believe that because their engine has a turbo, they have to add a T to the model number. MB has no designation for a car with a turbo, (other than the turbo trunk badge on US models) as that is indicated by the engine type. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 23:59:01 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: SO WHAT IS A 190DT Shorthand for 190D 2.5 Turbo. Now that makes more sense. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 23:03:49 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: SO WHAT IS A 190DT There is no such thing as a 190DT There is no 201 wagon As some people insist that their 300D is a DT or TD, it is neither; and some people want to call their 190D a DT, it is not. It is a 190D. people mistakenly believe that because their engine has a turbo, they have to add a T to the model number. MB has no designation for a car with a turbo, (other than the turbo trunk badge on US models) as that is indicated by the engine type. I know all that, which is why I asked the question of those who had been discussing a 190DT this afternoon and evening. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190DT Headlight.
ok I thought so. Welcome back. Glad nothing burned. It would have been a real shame to loose a 240D 3.0. On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 23:03:49 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: SO WHAT IS A 190DT There is no such thing as a 190DT There is no 201 wagon As some people insist that their 300D is a DT or TD, it is neither; and some people want to call their 190D a DT, it is not. It is a 190D. people mistakenly believe that because their engine has a turbo, they have to add a T to the model number. MB has no designation for a car with a turbo, (other than the turbo trunk badge on US models) as that is indicated by the engine type. I know all that, which is why I asked the question of those who had been discussing a 190DT this afternoon and evening. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
