Re: [MBZ] OT - Grndson

2012-06-13 Thread Mitch Haley

Rick Knoble wrote:

I live five miles away from the worst urban area in the country (Gary, IN).


http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/lake/13063624-418/chicago-atf-agents-find-gary-less-than-hospitable.html


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Engine Exhaust Causes Lung Cancer, WHO Agency Says

2012-06-13 Thread Gerry Archer

Without getting into a discussion that could rival oil and tires, consider
that if diesel smoke caused as much disease as various interests imply,
there would be a well defined epidemic; especially in major air polluted
cities.  The reason there isn't may be because the lungs have their own
cleaning system which does a good job of removing particulates and other
substances unless they are  overwhelmed by concentrated smoke or vapors
going directly into the lungs as is the case with tobacco smoke.
One type of lung cell produces a constant stream of sputum that is propelled
upwards by another type of cell which has little fingers or whips called
cilia.  Without realizing it, people periodically swallow small amounts of
this sputum which has collected whatever particulates and foreign substances
that have been inhaled and it is harmlessly excreted as part of the feces.
This amounts to about 10 ml (1/3 oz) of sputum per hour in most adults.
If a persons lung cleaning system is constantly overwhelmed, which is
usually indicated by frequent coughing, they can increase the flow of sputum
by taking an expectorant; the commonest being over-the-counter guaifenesin
400 mg at any drugstore.  Walgreens brand is called Mucus relief.
The human body has several barriers against cancer and there are several
substances and techniques that will possibly strengthen these barriers, but
that is
another, often controversial, subject.
Gerry


Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca writes:

I shouldn't think that would come as any real surprise to most folks.
Unfortunately, it is just another item on a long list of things that
we ought not to breath into our lungs.



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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Engine Exhaust Causes Lung Cancer, WHO Agency Says

2012-06-13 Thread Gerry Archer

Many years ago the veterinary research lab where I worked got it's own
shipment of cancer prone mice.  So many substances gave these mice cancer
that one of the employees bet another that plain old horse sh*t would also
give them cancer.
It was tested and he won the bet.
Since then I've often wondered how many profound studies about the causes of
cancer are using offspring of these same cancer prone mice.
Gerry

From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca



Like the study a number of years ago that decided that drinking coffee
caused cancer. They later acknowledged that a lot of the folks who drank a
lot of coffee also smoked at the same time.

Randy who is more worried about the drivers behind him crashing in the
thick black smoke than he is about them dying of cancer because they were
breathing

On 12/06/2012 2:00 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

Interesting about the bladder CA. The well known causes of bladder CA are
cigarette smoking, aniline dye exposure from the printing industry and
ascaris (worm infection- mostly Egypt). A lot of truckers who are those
mostly exposed to Diesel are smokers. I wonder then if the study was
confounded?

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On Jun 12, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca  wrote:

I shouldn't think that would come as any real surprise to most folks.
Unfortunately, it is just another item on a long list of things that we
ought not to breath into our lungs.

Randy


On 12/06/2012 12:19 PM, Dan Elliott wrote:
This seems relevant for those owning older diesels such as myself:Dan
Elliott

300TD 82 129kmi
  Diesel Engine Exhaust Causes Lung Cancer, WHO Agency Says


Exhaust from diesel engines
http://topics.bloomberg.com/diesel-engines/causes lung cancer, a
World
Health Organizationhttp://www.who.int/en/   agency said for the first
time, citing a review of studies.

Diesel exhaust also was linked to an increased risk of bladder cancer,
the International
Agency for Research on
Cancerhttp://www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/iarcnews/2012/mono105-backgrounderQ_A.php,
based in Lyon, Francehttp://topics.bloomberg.com/france/, said in a
statementhttp://press.iarc.fr/pr213_E.pdf   today. The group published
the
findings after a review over eight days by a panel of scientists. An
earlier review, in 1988, classified diesel engine exhaust as “probably
carcinogenic.”

The agency isn’t providing guidelines on what level of exposure is
carcinogenic, leaving it up to national and international regulatory
authorities to weigh its conclusion, Christopher Wild, director of the
agency, told reporters today on a conference call.

“The scientific evidence was compelling and the working group’s
conclusion
was unanimous: Diesel engine exhaust causes lung cancer in humans,”
Christopher Portier, chairman of the IARC working group, said in the
statement. “Given the additional health impacts from diesel particulates,
exposure to this mixture of chemicals should be reduced worldwide.‘‘

The review of older studies may not take into account advances in diesel
technology over the last decade, Steve
Hansenhttp://topics.bloomberg.com/steve-hansen/,
a spokesman for the Diesel Technology
Forumhttp://www.dieselforum.org/index.cfm?objectid=1098FAC0-9376-11E0-98E9000C296BA163in
Washingtonhttp://topics.bloomberg.com/washington/, said in an e-mailed
statement. The group represents global diesel engine manufacturers,
automakers and oil refiners. Members include Deere   Co.
(DE)http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/DE:US,
Ford Motor Co. (F)http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/F:US   and BP Plc.
(BP/)http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/BP/:LN
Lower Emissions

Nitrogen oxide emissions from heavy-duty trucks and buses have been
reduced
by 99 percent and particulate emissions by 98 percent over the last 10
years, Hansen said.

While the amount of particulates and chemicals are reduced with these
changes, it is not yet clear how they may translate into health effects,
the IARC said. ‘‘Research into this question is needed.’’

Existing vehicles without these modifications will take many years to be
replaced, particularly in developed countries, where regulatory measures
are less stringent, the IARC said.

In March, the U.S. National Cancer Institute Heavy released results from
a
study that said exposure to diesel fumes increased risk of death from
lung
cancerhttp://topics.bloomberg.com/lung-cancer/   in
minershttp://www.cancer.gov/newscenter/pressreleases/2012/DieselMinersPressReleasein
the U.S.

To contact the reporter on this story: Makiko Kitamura in London at
mkitamu...@bloomberg.net
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Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD Climate Control

2012-06-13 Thread Gerry Archer


I hope you have better luck than I did buying used climate control parts for
my '83 300D.  The first thing I had to do was resolder the pushbutton unit.
It works but not quite like the original.
It also drew just enough extra current to blow the 16 amp fuse and I had to
put a relay between the control unit and the blower to reduce the current
draw.  It's been working, sort of, for about a year.
Gerry

From: aland...@knology.net

Thanks for the tips on the climate control unit. Didn't think of the
solder fix but I'll give it a try. It is a solid car, not a heap. The 123
chassis is all I would drive on a daily basis.
Rusty:  I appreciate the reduced price offer, but this is another flip so
I need to put the most inexpensive parts in it. Hope to be able to make a
profit. They always need more repairs than you anticipate.
Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN





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Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD Climate Control

2012-06-13 Thread Hans Neureiter
I had trouble with the fuse blowing. The PB unit looked pretty ragy. I
reolaced it with an e-bay steal ($50), but the same problem persisted.
Than I noticed the fuse blew always when I stepped on the gas.
I disconnected the kick-down swith and all is good now.
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote:


 I hope you have better luck than I did buying used climate control parts
 for
 my '83 300D.  The first thing I had to do was resolder the pushbutton unit.
 It works but not quite like the original.
 It also drew just enough extra current to blow the 16 amp fuse and I had to
 put a relay between the control unit and the blower to reduce the current
 draw.  It's been working, sort of, for about a year.
 Gerry

 From: aland...@knology.net

  Thanks for the tips on the climate control unit. Didn't think of the
 solder fix but I'll give it a try. It is a solid car, not a heap. The 123
 chassis is all I would drive on a daily basis.
 Rusty:  I appreciate the reduced price offer, but this is another flip so
 I need to put the most inexpensive parts in it. Hope to be able to make a
 profit. They always need more repairs than you anticipate.
 Alan Duff
 Knoxville, TN





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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Engine Exhaust Causes Lung Cancer, WHO Agency Says

2012-06-13 Thread Rusty Cullens

How true. I have a very good friend that worked for W.R. Grace when he
graduated from Wharton Business School. He had a B.S. in chemistry and a
B.S. in Chemical Engineering from GA Tech. Then got his M.B.A. at Wharton.
Grace had him in charge of a saccharin study. He said the amount that they
gave to rats to give them cancer was equal to a human drinking 500 cases of
diet soft drinks a day for 10 years. Now we know that most people drink at
LEAST that many. So saccharin was banned. Sounds logical to me. And he got
paid over $100,000 a year 40 years ago just to do this. Nice.


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On Behalf Of Gerry Archer
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Engine Exhaust Causes Lung Cancer, WHO Agency Says

Many years ago the veterinary research lab where I worked got it's own
shipment of cancer prone mice.  So many substances gave these mice cancer
that one of the employees bet another that plain old horse sh*t would also
give them cancer.
It was tested and he won the bet.
Since then I've often wondered how many profound studies about the causes of
cancer are using offspring of these same cancer prone mice.
Gerry

From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca


 


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Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD Climate Control

2012-06-13 Thread Gerry Archer
That's weird.  Mine showed a constant voltage of something over 16 volts 
while operating and the fuse would blow after 15-20 minutes of operation.

Gerry

From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com

I had trouble with the fuse blowing. The PB unit looked pretty ragy. I
reolaced it with an e-bay steal ($50), but the same problem persisted.
Than I noticed the fuse blew always when I stepped on the gas.
I disconnected the kick-down swith and all is good now.
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Gerry Archer 
arche...@embarqmail.comwrote:




I hope you have better luck than I did buying used climate control parts
for
my '83 300D.  The first thing I had to do was resolder the pushbutton 
unit.

It works but not quite like the original.
It also drew just enough extra current to blow the 16 amp fuse and I had 
to

put a relay between the control unit and the blower to reduce the current
draw.  It's been working, sort of, for about a year.
Gerry

From: aland...@knology.net


 Thanks for the tips on the climate control unit. Didn't think of the
solder fix but I'll give it a try. It is a solid car, not a heap. The 
123

chassis is all I would drive on a daily basis.
Rusty:  I appreciate the reduced price offer, but this is another flip 
so
I need to put the most inexpensive parts in it. Hope to be able to make 
a

profit. They always need more repairs than you anticipate.
Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN





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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Engine Exhaust Causes Lung Cancer, WHO Agency Says

2012-06-13 Thread Larry T

Rusty,
That's the way they always  link cancer to foods - because they 
cannot easily duplicate a lifetime of normal doses of what they 
consider dangerous foods, substances, etc.  IMO, that's not a precise 
duplication but there's no other way.

It seems *_everything _*causes cancer ---

;-)

LarryT
91 300D


On 6/13/2012 9:40 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote:

How true. I have a very good friend that worked for W.R. Grace when he
graduated from Wharton Business School. He had a B.S. in chemistry and a
B.S. in Chemical Engineering from GA Tech. Then got his M.B.A. at Wharton.
Grace had him in charge of a saccharin study. He said the amount that they
gave to rats to give them cancer was equal to a human drinking 500 cases of
diet soft drinks a day for 10 years. Now we know that most people drink at
LEAST that many. So saccharin was banned. Sounds logical to me. And he got
paid over $100,000 a year 40 years ago just to do this. Nice.


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On Behalf Of Gerry Archer
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 8:12 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Engine Exhaust Causes Lung Cancer, WHO Agency Says

Many years ago the veterinary research lab where I worked got it's own
shipment of cancer prone mice.  So many substances gave these mice cancer
that one of the employees bet another that plain old horse sh*t would also
give them cancer.
It was tested and he won the bet.
Since then I've often wondered how many profound studies about the causes of
cancer are using offspring of these same cancer prone mice.
Gerry

From: Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca





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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Engine Exhaust Causes Lung Cancer, WHO Agency Says

2012-06-13 Thread Gerry Archer

Interesting!  I remember all the fuss about saccharin back then.
Gerry

From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com

How true. I have a very good friend that worked for W.R. Grace when he
graduated from Wharton Business School. He had a B.S. in chemistry and a
B.S. in Chemical Engineering from GA Tech. Then got his M.B.A. at Wharton.
Grace had him in charge of a saccharin study. He said the amount that they
gave to rats to give them cancer was equal to a human drinking 500 cases 
of

diet soft drinks a day for 10 years. Now we know that most people drink at
LEAST that many. So saccharin was banned. Sounds logical to me. And he got
paid over $100,000 a year 40 years ago just to do this. Nice.


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Says


Many years ago the veterinary research lab where I worked got it's own
shipment of cancer prone mice.  So many substances gave these mice 
cancer

that one of the employees bet another that plain old horse sh*t would also
give them cancer.
It was tested and he won the bet.
Since then I've often wondered how many profound studies about the causes 
of

cancer are using offspring of these same cancer prone mice.
Gerry

From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca





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Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD Climate Control

2012-06-13 Thread David Bruckmann
The controls often fail because the aux coolant pump, which is not separately 
fused, burns out the control unit's circuit board. Do yourself a favour and 
yank that useless pump's connector while you are at it.

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Engine Exhaust Causes Lung Cancer, WHO Agency Says

2012-06-13 Thread Rich Thomas
I don't know whether diesel exhaust causes lung cancer or not, but it 
is sorta reasonable to think that inhaling nasty stuff does not do you 
any good.  Diesel particulates are/have nasty stuff, so not surprising.  
It is pretty clear that for those who have lung cancer, cigarettes are 
the primary cause (absent things like workplace exposure to nasties), 
though some people just develop it with no other apparent significant 
environmental risk factors.


The interesting thing about cancers is that 1) if you don't smoke or 
drink heavily, and get checked for hepatitis, and eat well and exercise, 
your likelihood of most cancers is pretty low (breast cancers have some 
genetic and racial dispositions), and 2) given that many other diseases 
(save congenital stupidity) have either been eliminated, cured, or 
managed well (at least in the civilized world), cancers have now sorta 
moved up the list of stuff that will kill you, but mostly later than all 
those other diseases would have killed you in the past.  At some point 
we are all gonna die, something is gonna cause it, and it will likely be 
something that is not treatable or manageable at that time.  Or will 
cost too much, but that is another discussion.


Of course we all know people whom we can cite anecdotally who did all 
the right things, and still developed a cancer and died, but those folks 
are still sort of a smallish subset of all.  I have friends who fell in 
that category for no rhyme or reason.  Then there are those who eat 
crap, smoke like chimneys, drink like fish, and live to be 100.  Go figure.


The good news is that a lot of cancers are generally preventable  (or 
risk-reducible, perhaps more accurately), and many are now treatable and 
manageable with increasing 5yr survival rates.


Oh, and the WHO is a quasi-governmental bureaucracy, and we all know 
what bureaucracies are all about.  Especially international 
bureaucracies, which are like a cancer themselves.


--R (who gets this all second hand)

On 6/13/12 10:04 AM, Larry T wrote:
It seems *_everything _*causes cancer --- 


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Engine Exhaust Causes Lung Cancer, WHO Agency Says

2012-06-13 Thread Rusty Cullens


 

 

Of course we all know people whom we can cite anecdotally who did all 
the right things, and still developed a cancer and died, but those folks 
are still sort of a smallish subset of all.  I have friends who fell in 
that category for no rhyme or reason.  Then there are those who eat 
crap, smoke like chimneys, drink like fish, and live to be 100.  Go figure.

  Yes, we do. One of our neighbors was a nutritionist that never smoked,
drank 1 glass of red wine every day and ate as well as anyone you know. When
she hit 49 she developed a glioblastoma in her brain and was dead in 90 days
from date of diagnosis. Go figure. 


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[MBZ] 116 parts

2012-06-13 Thread Kaleb Striplin, Okieben
Anybody want a couple of mostly complete 116 parts cars with good engine and 
transmission? Going to the crusher as is this weekend

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Engine Exhaust Causes Lung Cancer, WHO Agency Says

2012-06-13 Thread Rich Thomas
A doc at MDAnderson, who specialized in brain cancer, got brain cancer 
himself at an age something like that.  He died after operations and 
treatments and such, and had a very good attitude about it all as a 
learning/teaching experience, was chronicled in the paper occasionally.  
One of my son's high school classmates' father also developed the same, 
did not live long.  Shit happens, enjoy the ride.


--R

On 6/13/12 12:14 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote:







Of course we all know people whom we can cite anecdotally who did all
the right things, and still developed a cancer and died, but those folks
are still sort of a smallish subset of all.  I have friends who fell in
that category for no rhyme or reason.  Then there are those who eat
crap, smoke like chimneys, drink like fish, and live to be 100.  Go figure.

   Yes, we do. One of our neighbors was a nutritionist that never smoked,
drank 1 glass of red wine every day and ate as well as anyone you know. When
she hit 49 she developed a glioblastoma in her brain and was dead in 90 days
from date of diagnosis. Go figure.


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Engine Exhaust Causes Lung Cancer, WHO Agency Says

2012-06-13 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
We can't control our genes yet. Glioblastoma in adults is more aggressive and 
almost uniformly lethal.  The juvenile version confers a much better prognosis.

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On Jun 13, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:







Of course we all know people whom we can cite anecdotally who did all 
the right things, and still developed a cancer and died, but those folks 
are still sort of a smallish subset of all.  I have friends who fell in 
that category for no rhyme or reason.  Then there are those who eat 
crap, smoke like chimneys, drink like fish, and live to be 100.  Go figure.

 Yes, we do. One of our neighbors was a nutritionist that never smoked,
drank 1 glass of red wine every day and ate as well as anyone you know. When
she hit 49 she developed a glioblastoma in her brain and was dead in 90 days
from date of diagnosis. Go figure. 


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Re: [MBZ] 83 300SD Climate Control

2012-06-13 Thread andrew strasfogel
Hans, that's downright brilliant reasoning for all its simplicity.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had trouble with the fuse blowing. The PB unit looked pretty ragy. I
 reolaced it with an e-bay steal ($50), but the same problem persisted.
 Than I noticed the fuse blew always when I stepped on the gas.
 I disconnected the kick-down swith and all is good now.
 On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote:


 I hope you have better luck than I did buying used climate control parts
 for
 my '83 300D.  The first thing I had to do was resolder the pushbutton unit.
 It works but not quite like the original.
 It also drew just enough extra current to blow the 16 amp fuse and I had to
 put a relay between the control unit and the blower to reduce the current
 draw.  It's been working, sort of, for about a year.
 Gerry

 From: aland...@knology.net

  Thanks for the tips on the climate control unit. Didn't think of the
 solder fix but I'll give it a try. It is a solid car, not a heap. The 123
 chassis is all I would drive on a daily basis.
 Rusty:  I appreciate the reduced price offer, but this is another flip so
 I need to put the most inexpensive parts in it. Hope to be able to make a
 profit. They always need more repairs than you anticipate.
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Re: [MBZ] 116 parts

2012-06-13 Thread Allan Streib
Diesel?

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Engine Exhaust Causes Lung Cancer, WHO Agency Says

2012-06-13 Thread Allan Streib
Same thing happened to a high school friend of mine.  No prior symptoms, fell 
over unconscious one day, diagnosed brain cancer, died in a few months.  Pretty 
sad, I think he was only 17.


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 A doc at MDAnderson, who specialized in brain cancer, got brain cancer 
 himself at an age something like that.  He died after operations and 
 treatments and such, and had a very good attitude about it all as a 
 learning/teaching experience, was chronicled in the paper occasionally.  
 One of my son's high school classmates' father also developed the same, 
 did not live long.  Shit happens, enjoy the ride.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Engine Exhaust Causes Lung Cancer, WHO Agency Says

2012-06-13 Thread G Mann
On that note, I've noticed that location is very important. For example, in
California, nearly everything is labeled that it causes cancer. However,
if you drive South a couple hours to Mexico, the same materials are easily
purchased and recommended for consumption.

Definition: Elephant. A mouse built under government contract.

It's simply amazing how overloaded we are with warnings and labels which
stem from some government funded project or grant which produced
nothing, until the money runs out, and the need to publish or perish
happens, so it can be renewed

Just a thought.

Very few have ever gotten past this life alive... Old age simply means we
die more slowly than our piers.

Grant...
He who dies with the most toys, is still dead

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 A doc at MDAnderson, who specialized in brain cancer, got brain cancer
 himself at an age something like that.  He died after operations and
 treatments and such, and had a very good attitude about it all as a
 learning/teaching experience, was chronicled in the paper occasionally.
  One of my son's high school classmates' father also developed the same,
 did not live long.  Shit happens, enjoy the ride.

 --R

 On 6/13/12 12:14 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote:






  Of course we all know people whom we can cite anecdotally who did all
 the right things, and still developed a cancer and died, but those folks
 are still sort of a smallish subset of all.  I have friends who fell in
 that category for no rhyme or reason.  Then there are those who eat
 crap, smoke like chimneys, drink like fish, and live to be 100.  Go
 figure.

   Yes, we do. One of our neighbors was a nutritionist that never smoked,
 drank 1 glass of red wine every day and ate as well as anyone you know.
 When
 she hit 49 she developed a glioblastoma in her brain and was dead in 90
 days
 from date of diagnosis. Go figure.


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Re: [MBZ] 116 parts

2012-06-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Gas 

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 Diesel?
 
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[MBZ] 1972 220D Lost Key $500

2012-06-13 Thread Kevin Kraly
I spotted this one on the local Craigslist just a few miles from me. The car is 
all there, it’s been parked for 5 years, but ran before he lost the key. He got 
the VIN coded key, but somebody changed the iggie at some point so the key 
doesn’t work. He disassembled it enough to know that he couldn’t fix it 
himself. Are these cars like the W123/126 in the way of ignition lock removal? 
Is it possible to hook a battery up and start it without the key using just the 
start pull lever?  If this one’s worth buying, how much should I expect to pay 
for having it fixed if it’s not a DIIY job?
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
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[MBZ] OT - septic tank treatment

2012-06-13 Thread Mountain Man
Our septic tank pump contractor has always recommended using Rid-X
each month, so we do.  The other day I talked to a neighbor and he
mentioned something new.  He said the 'old-timers' used to toss
roadkill in to the septic tank which did the same job as Rid-X.

Has anyone heard of this?
Has anyone done the roadkill treatment?

Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - septic tank treatment

2012-06-13 Thread Brian Toscano
I would recommend not using anything.

Brian
who has owned two homes with septic systems and never done anything but
shower  flush as if he had a sewer line.


On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 Our septic tank pump contractor has always recommended using Rid-X
 each month, so we do.  The other day I talked to a neighbor and he
 mentioned something new.  He said the 'old-timers' used to toss
 roadkill in to the septic tank which did the same job as Rid-X.

 Has anyone heard of this?
 Has anyone done the roadkill treatment?

 Thanks.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - septic tank treatment

2012-06-13 Thread Craig
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:02:41 -0600 Brian Toscano
brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would recommend not using anything.
 
 Brian
 who has owned two homes with septic systems and never done anything but
 shower  flush as if he had a sewer line.
 
 
 On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Our septic tank pump contractor has always recommended using Rid-X
  each month, so we do.  The other day I talked to a neighbor and he
  mentioned something new.  He said the 'old-timers' used to toss
  roadkill in to the septic tank which did the same job as Rid-X.
 
  Has anyone heard of this?
  Has anyone done the roadkill treatment?

I have not heard of the roadkill treatment.

When we lived south of Calhan, CO, our septic tank (which had
ground-level cleanout accesses) started to smell. A friend at church, who
was the Director of the Colorado Springs Utility Division, said to get a
bag (2# ? about 14 x 10 x 6) of brewers yeast and flush that down the
toilet. It was hard getting all that dry stuff down the toilet, even with
a lot of water, but we managed and the smell went away.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D Lost Key $500

2012-06-13 Thread Jim Cathey

Are these cars like the W123/126 in the way of ignition lock removal?


Pretty much.

Is it possible to hook a battery up and start it without the key using 
just the start pull lever?


Not really, in that the key is _supposed_ to interlock the knob.
But sometimes that interlock is broken...

However, if you get under the hood and can disconnect the knob's
cable and run the IP by hand, and hotwire the glow system,
and the starter, then you should be good no matter what the
key says about it.  Alternator won't charge, though.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D Lost Key $500

2012-06-13 Thread Craig
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 16:20:22 -0700 Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net
wrote:

 Are these cars like the W123/126 in the way of ignition lock removal?

Sorry, Kevin, I don't know; it's been a long time since I worked on the
W115 we had. I would guess, though, that it would be somewhat a similar
process of turning the key to a specific position and inserting a
wire/pin in a hole to be able to remove a shield cylinder/plate.

Hopefully, someone that currently has a W115 will chime in.


 Is it possible to hook a battery up and start it without the key using
 just the start pull lever?

I do recall one time driving our '72 220D/8 and wondering if it would run
on no electricity. In a deserted part of roadway, I punched the Pull Knob
to turn the engine off and allow the key to be turned to off. I then
pulled the pull knob out and it ran just fine -- I couldn't steer, of
course, but it ran just fine. I quickly unlocked the steering and drove
on.

So, it will be possible to have it run. Most likely, though, you will
find that the starter won't run when you pull the Pull Knob all the way
out (actually, I can almost guarantee that). You will have to have
someone short the top, battery cable terminal on the starter solenoid to
the middle terminal on the solenoid with a big screwdriver to have the
starter engage and turn the engine.


 If this one’s worth buying, how much should I expect to pay for having
 it fixed if it’s not a DIIY job?

I would expect you will have to have the lock drilled out (the armor
plate in front of it, actually) and then replace the lock and armor plate
and anything else that was damaged.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - septic tank treatment

2012-06-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I use liquid ridx that says to put a cup
Down once every 2 months

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On Jun 13, 2012, at 7:02 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would recommend not using anything.
 
 Brian
 who has owned two homes with septic systems and never done anything but
 shower  flush as if he had a sewer line.
 
 
 On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Our septic tank pump contractor has always recommended using Rid-X
 each month, so we do.  The other day I talked to a neighbor and he
 mentioned something new.  He said the 'old-timers' used to toss
 roadkill in to the septic tank which did the same job as Rid-X.
 
 Has anyone heard of this?
 Has anyone done the roadkill treatment?
 
 Thanks.
 mao
 
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[MBZ] Rick K

2012-06-13 Thread Rolf
My emails are going to your spam filter I think. Did you get my response 
about the headlight?


-Rolf

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Re: [MBZ] 116 parts

2012-06-13 Thread Allan Streib
Either of them have a good ACC servo?  Or are you not interested in
parting out?

Allan

Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes:

 Gas 

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 On Jun 13, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Diesel?
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - septic tank treatment

2012-06-13 Thread Allan Streib
Road kill doesn't make any sense to me.

I use RidX a few times a year, when I think of it, and have the tank
pumped every few years.

No trouble so far (knock on wood) other than a failed pump float switch
one time.

I'm pretty careful about not letting a lot of trash get into the system.
Have a good lint filter on the clothes washer drain, no disposer (all
food waste goes in the trash) and only paper that gets flushed is toilet
tissue.

Allan


Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes:

 Our septic tank pump contractor has always recommended using Rid-X
 each month, so we do.  The other day I talked to a neighbor and he
 mentioned something new.  He said the 'old-timers' used to toss
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 Has anyone heard of this?
 Has anyone done the roadkill treatment?

 Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - septic tank treatment

2012-06-13 Thread OK Don
I was told by several people to not put anything in the septic system, and
so far it's worked fine (10 months). The PO said they were pouring
buttermilk down the drain, per Mother Earth News.

I also removed the disposer when I replaced the kitchen sink - most food
scraps go to the worm bin(worm ranch). Tell me more about the washer lint
trap. Is it a sock like thing that goes into the drain pipe - that you have
to pull out and clean frequently?

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Road kill doesn't make any sense to me.

 I use RidX a few times a year, when I think of it, and have the tank
 pumped every few years.

 No trouble so far (knock on wood) other than a failed pump float switch
 one time.

 I'm pretty careful about not letting a lot of trash get into the system.
 Have a good lint filter on the clothes washer drain, no disposer (all
 food waste goes in the trash) and only paper that gets flushed is toilet
 tissue.

 Allan


 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes:

  Our septic tank pump contractor has always recommended using Rid-X
  each month, so we do.  The other day I talked to a neighbor and he
  mentioned something new.  He said the 'old-timers' used to toss
  roadkill in to the septic tank which did the same job as Rid-X.
 
  Has anyone heard of this?
  Has anyone done the roadkill treatment?
 
  Thanks.
  mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] 116 parts

2012-06-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I'm interested in selling the whole car but I will sell the servo before I haul 
to the crushed

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 Either of them have a good ACC servo?  Or are you not interested in
 parting out?
 
 Allan
 
 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes:
 
 Gas 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Diesel?
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - septic tank treatment

2012-06-13 Thread Mitch Haley

Allan Streib wrote:


I'm pretty careful about not letting a lot of trash get into the system.


Like bones and fur?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] learn to post or stop

2012-06-13 Thread RELNGSON
 ...Hendrik
 who wonders if mythbusters have tested this
 
 On 12/06/12 07:44, relng...@aol.com wrote:
  ..I have a theory that many of the folks who buy VWs are young and 
 don't
  know much about (or think they can't afford) proper maintenance so the 
 car
  gets neglected. Then they trade it in and the NEXT guy gets screwed
 
  My friend SJB has a two year old Golf diesel (DSG) with 38000 miles on 
 it
  so far that has been bombproof.
 
  44mpg.
 
  RLE
 

I did not post the first half of this despite what Hendrik thinks. 

Do not combine my stuff with somebody else's and then tag my name on the 
end. Got it?

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Rick K

2012-06-13 Thread Michael Canfield
Or mine about the other one?

Thanks again, Mike
On Jun 13, 2012 9:43 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:

 My emails are going to your spam filter I think. Did you get my response
 about the headlight?

 -Rolf

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Re: [MBZ] learn to post or stop

2012-06-13 Thread Rich Thomas
I don't think I am getting about half of the posts today, including my 
own originals.  I wouldn't know if you wrote that or not, and really 
could not care less as it matters naught to me.


--R

On 6/13/12 11:07 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

...Hendrik
who wonders if mythbusters have tested this

On 12/06/12 07:44, relng...@aol.com wrote:

..I have a theory that many of the folks who buy VWs are young and

don't

know much about (or think they can't afford) proper maintenance so the

car

gets neglected. Then they trade it in and the NEXT guy gets screwed


My friend SJB has a two year old Golf diesel (DSG) with 38000 miles on

it

so far that has been bombproof.

44mpg.

RLE

I did not post the first half of this despite what Hendrik thinks.

Do not combine my stuff with somebody else's and then tag my name on the
end. Got it?

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Glioblastoma multiforme

2012-06-13 Thread RELNGSON
 .We can't control our genes yet. Glioblastoma in adults is more 
 aggressive and almost uniformly lethal.  The juvenile version confers a much 
 better prognosis
 
The 21 year old daughter of a friend died of a Glio last fall. Her first 
brain surgery was at age eight. My father died of a Glio in 1991, ten months 
after surgery. My mother died last Thanksgiving weekend of a return of her 
breast cancer of 35 years ago which resurfaced as spinal cancer. Her 100th 
birthday would have been next month. She had been my total responsibility for 
quite a while.

Early detection is still vital.

RLE
 
 
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[MBZ] OT Selectric printer

2012-06-13 Thread Rich Thomas

http://www.robotdialogs.com/2012/05/started-working-on-selectric-ii.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] learn to post it or stop it

2012-06-13 Thread Hendrik Fay

Roger did not write this, the system generated it:

On 14/06/12 12:37, relng...@aol.com wrote:

Roger did not write this, I did:

...Hendrik
who wonders if mythbusters have tested this

Roger did not write this, the system generated it:


On 12/06/12 07:44, relng...@aol.com wrote:
Not sure who wrote this as Rogers original VW post did not say, perhaps 
he could quote his sources:

..I have a theory that many of the folks who buy VWs are young and

don't

know much about (or think they can't afford) proper maintenance so the

car

gets neglected. Then they trade it in and the NEXT guy gets screwed

Roger did say this:



My friend SJB has a two year old Golf diesel (DSG) with 38000 miles on

it

so far that has been bombproof.

44mpg.

RLE

I did not post the first half of this despite what Hendrik thinks.

Do not combine my stuff with somebody else's and then tag my name on the
end. Got it?

RLE

Roger did not write this, once again it's system generated:

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Hendrik writes this:

You know thanks to your heads up I am getting the hang of this 
fangdangled interwebby posty thingy.
Wonder what all those pretty coloured vertical lines are for, any ideas 
Roger?


KHR

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Re: [MBZ] Glioblastoma multiforme

2012-06-13 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Yes breast cancer is weird like that. You can never really be cured. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 13, 2012, at 11:23 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

.We can't control our genes yet. Glioblastoma in adults is more 
aggressive and almost uniformly lethal.  The juvenile version confers a much 
better prognosis

The 21 year old daughter of a friend died of a Glio last fall. Her first 
brain surgery was at age eight. My father died of a Glio in 1991, ten months 
after surgery. My mother died last Thanksgiving weekend of a return of her 
breast cancer of 35 years ago which resurfaced as spinal cancer. Her 100th 
birthday would have been next month. She had been my total responsibility for 
quite a while.

Early detection is still vital.

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Grndson in the hood

2012-06-13 Thread Dieselhead

We have a choice:  Communist or socialist.


--R wrote:

 He's doing a pretty good job of taking himself out, it is just taking a few
 months to get there!


Someone here pointed out months ago that there is no contest this
cycle.  How does it make sense to run the guy that couldn't beat the
guy that lost in the last cycle (Obama vs McCain)?  How does Romney,
who didn't win against McCain make sense?  We are also coming to grips
with the stupidity of a campaign built on a platform of we can't let
this guy be elected for another 4 years.  That does not constitute a
platform.  The incumbent will win again.
mao


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[MBZ] Secret message for CUrt

2012-06-13 Thread Dieselhead

Curt,

Check out the article about statins here..
http://www.brianpeskin.com/BP.com/publications/CancerChol-Well8.09.pdf

He also has a new printing of a book THe Hidden story of cancer.
Here:  http://www.pinnacle-press.com/

No affiliation etc.  But I did buy the book.
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Re: [MBZ] 116 parts

2012-06-13 Thread Allan Streib
If it has a good working servo I'm interested in that.

Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes:

 I'm interested in selling the whole car but I will sell the servo before I 
 haul to the crushed

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 13, 2012, at 9:06 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Either of them have a good ACC servo?  Or are you not interested in
 parting out?
 
 Allan
 
 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes:
 
 Gas 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 13, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 
 Diesel?
 
 On Wed, Jun 13, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Kaleb Striplin, Okieben wrote:
 Anybody want a couple of mostly complete 116 parts cars with good engine 
 and transmission? Going to the crusher as is this weekend
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D Lost Key $500

2012-06-13 Thread Dieselhead
I spotted this one on the local Craigslist just a few miles from me. 
The car is all there, it's been parked for 5 years, but ran before 
he lost the key. He got the VIN coded key, but somebody changed the 
iggie at some point so the key doesn't work. He disassembled it 
enough to know that he couldn't fix it himself. Are these cars like 
the W123/126 in the way of ignition lock removal?



Pretty much the same, except the pull is part of the unit.

Is it possible to hook a battery up and start it without the key 
using just the start pull lever?


Not the best approach.  Put in a good battery. Disconnect the 
push/pull cable at the inj pump. (this will allow the lever on the 
pump to move from the off position (Forward) to the run position. 
(center)  you can also work the lever front to back to make sure it 
goes to the center when you are not pushing one way or t'other. 
This is a check to make sure the rack is not sticky.  If you have a 
remote start switch or a helper, hold the lever back for starting. 
That will give it full fuel.  Be prepared for the governor to jam it 
forward when the engine starts.  Don't get pinched.  I've always been 
ok just leaving it in the run position.


If you have a remote start switch, use it.  If not jump the bat+ 
terminal (big one on top) on the starter solenoid to the solenoid 
coil terminal (small one)


Dem Dissels don't need no 'lectricity. to run.

Alternative is to disconnect the push pull cable at the IP and push 
or pull the car.  (Better have a straight shot, as the steering will 
be locked.)


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Re: [MBZ] OT - septic tank treatment

2012-06-13 Thread Allan Streib
OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes:

 Tell me more about the washer lint
 trap. Is it a sock like thing that goes into the drain pipe - that you have
 to pull out and clean frequently?

Yeah pretty much.  

It's called a Filtrol 160.  Basically looks like a cartridge-type water
filter housing, with a 160-mesh sock inside.  We do a fair bit of
laundry, and it traps about a fistful of lint every week or so.  A bit
messy to clean, and I'm not sure how much it ultimately helps, but it's
well made and works as advertised.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Glioblastoma multiforme

2012-06-13 Thread Dieselhead





  .We can't control our genes yet. Glioblastoma in adults is more

 aggressive and almost uniformly lethal.  The juvenile version confers a much
 better prognosis


The 21 year old daughter of a friend died of a Glio last fall. Her first
brain surgery was at age eight. My father died of a Glio in 1991, ten months
after surgery. My mother died last Thanksgiving weekend of a return of her
breast cancer of 35 years ago which resurfaced as spinal cancer. Her 100th
birthday would have been next month.  That makes me about 85.  She 
had been my total responsibility for

quite a while.

Early detection is still vital.

RLE
 


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