Re: [MBZ] dirty oil flush

2012-07-07 Thread Brian Toscano
There is a product called Auto-RX (available online) that is designed for "slow cleaning". People often report it cleans varnish off dipsticks and valve covers. But, just like synthetic oil and engine flush, it cannot replace metal that has been worn away. On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Hendri

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread G Mann
Question: Wouldn't the population be better served if the government offered to carry the education cost for anyone who wanted to become a doctor? I note that the much argued "obama care" generates some 20,000,000 new patients, some 16,000 new IRS agents to collect the "fee/tax" , but not one dime

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas writes: > Medicare pays something like $80. An auto mechanic charges more than > that an hour, and has a lower salary, overhead, etc. Last time I visited the ER I got a bill for over $400 for the doc (who was in the room maybe 5 minutes), plus a separate bill from the hospital for t

Re: [MBZ] GL v ML

2012-07-07 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Sure size wise they are different but they look very alike http://autoshow.roadfly.com/mercedes-benz-bluetec-r320-ml320-gl320.html the R looks quite yucky Hendrik who can't afford fancy cars On 08/07/12 12:04, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: The gl is much larger and heavier duty than the ml. They loo

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: They had the stuff about "we'll help you if you can't afford it," which was crap. Because he worked at the time, and when I say that I mean in the most menial fashion, as in food service, he was not eligible for their "program". So while he barely brought in what the drug

Re: [MBZ] LED/Xenon headlights? TE light update

2012-07-07 Thread Hendrik & Fay
A while back I posted about upgrading to better/more modern headlight bulbs in my S124, well I bought some Phillips X-treme vision H4's off ebay for the princely sum of AU$54. Installation was piece of pi.e. After having them for a while I can say that they are definitely an improvement wit

Re: [MBZ] Another LED myth?

2012-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
LED's themselves are cheap and last as long as a transistor lasts. White LED's are fluorescent, and have the usual half-life concerns of that. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://w

Re: [MBZ] dirty oils done dirt cheap done M1

2012-07-07 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Well, I reckon you would be foolish to waste $$$'s on M1 in an engine that is old, sure if you rebuild the engine and it is nice and shiny inside then extendes M1 use would the go. Hendrik who doesn't use M1 On 08/07/12 05:27, clay monroe wrote: Changed over to castrol diesel stuff. Seem

Re: [MBZ] GL v ML

2012-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The gl is much larger and heavier duty than the ml. They look completely different to me. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > What exactly is the difference between a GL and ML, they look the same to me? > Is a GL halfway between a G and ML? > > Hendrik > wh

Re: [MBZ] GL v ML

2012-07-07 Thread Hendrik & Fay
What exactly is the difference between a GL and ML, they look the same to me? Is a GL halfway between a G and ML? Hendrik who is confused.again On 06/07/12 12:20, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Drive one, you will understand Sent from my iPhone On Jul 5, 2012, at 9:18 PM, Fmiser wrote: Kale

Re: [MBZ] dirty oil flush

2012-07-07 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Might pay to pull the rocker covers off to see what the go is. If you're game you can do an engine flush but I would definitely want to know what I am up against. An engine flush might dislodge all sorts of nasties that can block up the oil passages. Hendrik who is thinking about a flush for t

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Well here is what my wife says. She has a patient who comes in with some sort of follow-up for cancer. Patient understandably has a lot of questions, and the fam is there too for moral support and to ask questions, take notes, keep track of stuff because a cancer patient does not have a lot o

Re: [MBZ] Another LED myth?

2012-07-07 Thread Hans Neureiter
Some of us think the sun flickers. LED's themselves are cheap and last as long as a transistor lasts. The arrays they have to be put in and the driving circuitry embedded in that array is the driver for the cost factor. Allthough not cost effective for manufacturers in the short run, the benefits

Re: [MBZ] OT - ice cream

2012-07-07 Thread Mountain Man
Rusty wrote: > Since I am diabetic, we use Splenda instead of sugar... Dude - don't to splenda. The alternative is to consume less. Use local honey, lower the recipe liquid. Splenda *will* reap untoward benefits against you over time, no doubt. Eat food - that is better than idiot chemicals in

Re: [MBZ] 2005 E 320 CID

2012-07-07 Thread Dwight Giles
IIRC-they have a bad history of blowing turbos-Google it. I looked into one once but turbo blew during test drive with friend driving it. Repair records will confirm if new turbo has been installed. Nice car-someday when my 123 & 124 wear out, I'd like one myself. Dwight 90 300D 2.5t 82 300CD- On

Re: [MBZ] 2005 E 320 CID

2012-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Very fast very quiet very good mileage Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote: > Friend is looking at one. Any +/- comments? > All I know it's not a 126, 124 or123. But she tinks I know MB. > > > -- > Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX > '82 300SD > '02 VW New Beetle 1.9L

[MBZ] 2005 E 320 CID

2012-07-07 Thread Hans Neureiter
Friend is looking at one. Any +/- comments? All I know it's not a 126, 124 or123. But she tinks I know MB. -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '02 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Another LED myth?

2012-07-07 Thread Rick Knoble
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp#section_4 Rick Who now knows more about headlights. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe o

Re: [MBZ] Another LED myth?

2012-07-07 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jul 7, 2012, at 6:02 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: > Do the same persons who see strobing also have problems with Xenon > headlights? Strobing effects from xenons? Nope. However, if those are the ones that have a color change effect when viewed off axis, that does irk me. Rick Who doesn't r

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Scott Ritchey
Rich Thomas said: "The interesting thing about health care these days, at least in the oncology side, is that reimbursements for actual doc time and procedures is not enough to even begin to cover costs of providing that service. " This really makes me ponder. It seems I see my doctor routinely

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Scott Ritchey
Dan said "I think the health care industry should be nationalized. Our costs go up every year..." Hey why stop there. Education is going up almost as fact (and for the same reason). Housing was like this until 2006. Petrol was doing the same until a month or so ago. By this logic, we should na

Re: [MBZ] LED/Xenon headlights?

2012-07-07 Thread RELNGSON
> I was thinking about swapping in LED to the headlamps.  Pretty cost > ineffective if that application would not work.  The glare shield in the > euro lamps reduces light bleed head on and a bit to the side.  Not silvered > so > it does not reflect photons back toward the reflectors... >

Re: [MBZ] Another LED myth?

2012-07-07 Thread RELNGSON
> ...I certainly see it. Leds have to be pulsed or they burn out > If you mean visible pulsing, not so. More and more new cars (seen a new KIA lately?) have all LED rear lights (MB W212, for another example) and just last fall, City Light replaced all the poles on my street and installed new

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 126 headlamps arymamut

2012-07-07 Thread Max Dillon
I'd guess the back, maybe a cover held by a metal wire/spring clip? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscrib

Re: [MBZ] LED lights idiotic?

2012-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Replacing the TS relay with some sort of little timer circuit would handle that OK. Probably about 80cents worth of parts -- a 555 timer chip (or just a little microcontroller chip), a transistor, and maybe a coupla resistors/capacitors or something. I should look that up and try one. Oh lo

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Max Dillon
Did you buy any ELC shares? ;) Dan Penoff wrote: >I grew up in Indianapolis, home to Eli Lilly & Co., one of the largest >domestic pharmaceutical companies. > >To say that ELC was a cash cow is an understatement. Most of that >money comes from drugs they have developed and hold ownership to.

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Max Dillon
Invest now and get your share... Peter Frederick wrote: >They are. Look at their profit statements and dividends. Price looks > >low due to the number of shares, not the profit of the company. > -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http:/

Re: [MBZ] Strobing?

2012-07-07 Thread Fmiser
> Rolf wrote: > I certainly see it. Leds have to be pulsed or they burn out. No. Heat dissipation is a major limiting factor in the light output of LEDs. The simple way to avoid overheating the LED is to set the current limit to low enough that with constant current the substrate can dissipat

Re: [MBZ] LED lights idiotic?

2012-07-07 Thread Fmiser
> Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > I assume we're talking about putting LEDs in older cars to > replace traditional light bulbs... Yes. > I'd be very weary to replace a bulb with LEDs unless you buy > one of the pre-made solutions. That's what Clay did. > Home-made solutions simply lack reliability,

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
When I was a surgical resident, drug company funded filet mignon and lobster dinners were the norm in Boston's and DC's top steak houses:) Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: It was a sad day when they changed all the rules on drug reps entertaining their custo

[MBZ] Fwd: 126 headlamps arymamut

2012-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
bounced again Original Message Subject:126 headlamps Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 16:37:32 -0400 From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion List Mama got stopped by a cop one morning early a coupla weeks ago, he said one headlight was out. Turns out it was the hi

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Dan Penoff
I grew up in Indianapolis, home to Eli Lilly & Co., one of the largest domestic pharmaceutical companies. To say that ELC was a cash cow is an understatement. Most of that money comes from drugs they have developed and hold ownership to. One of them my oldest son was on, and it cost over $1,0

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
It was a sad day when they changed all the rules on drug reps entertaining their customers. When my wife was a Fellow, one of them took 3 couples (us + 2 other Fellows/spouses) to a really nice (one of the nicest) restaurant in Houston. The waiter brought over the wine list, she handed it to

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Peter Frederick
They are. Look at their profit statements and dividends. Price looks low due to the number of shares, not the profit of the company. Problem comes when they borrow immense amounts of money to buy each other, or when their drug goes off patent. Peter __

Re: [MBZ] Heat pump.

2012-07-07 Thread clay monroe
That sounds like my situation. Fifteen years ago the messed up electric furnace crapped out in Feb. Three weeks without heat, and getting ready to redo the kitchen. Switch to gas, got the antiquated electric panel upgrade to new, and all new furnace and WH. Old furnace was on knob and tube

Re: [MBZ] LED lights idiotic?

2012-07-07 Thread clay monroe
I am not planning to subject this car to any known extremes where a less sturdy solution would fail. These are the same lamps as FLAPS peddles, I just went to the source, instead of paying FLAPS to floor them. The car will be put to bed for the winter, and come out to play when moderate temps

Re: [MBZ] strobing

2012-07-07 Thread clay monroe
I was thinking about swapping in LED to the headlamps. Pretty cost ineffective if that application would not work. The glare shield in the euro lamps reduces light bleed head on and a bit to the side. Not silvered so it does not reflect photons back toward the reflectors. clay 1974 450s

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Max Dillon
If this were true, it would be reflected in the stock prices, and big pharmaceutical firms would be fantastic investments Peter Frederick wrote: >All those salespeople clear $200,000 a year in BONUSES as a general >rule, with base pay in the upper 80's. I'm sure many make more than >th

Re: [MBZ] Strobing?

2012-07-07 Thread clay monroe
Blinker maybe has no impact on energy saving, but you will drop amperage draw using LED for always on applications. BiL changed out all lamps to LED in his rig and amperage went from 70 to 7. clay On Jul 6, 2012, at 8:37 PM, David Bruckmann wrote: > I see the same thing. There's a definite

Re: [MBZ] Heat pump.

2012-07-07 Thread Max Dillon
Air handler is single speed. Thanks for the info. I'll see how she does without a top off. Going to try to install over the next couple weeks, hour here and there after work. Mitch Haley wrote: > >Seems to be in the ballpark. > >Regular air handler >http://www.acwholesalers.com/Goodman_Hea

Re: [MBZ] dirty oils done dirt cheap

2012-07-07 Thread clay monroe
Changed over to castrol diesel stuff. Seems to have a minor impact on pressure. Will keep going with changes and see if it gets better. If the sediment is flushed out that way, I should be able to use M1 clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple an

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Dan Penoff
I had a former neighbor who was a pharma salesperson. While it is an understatement, she was magically babelicious. She made BIG bucks doing nothing more than calling on doctors and wining/dining them on a regular basis. If she had any product knowledge I would have been surprised. That bein

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Peter Frederick
All those salespeople clear $200,000 a year in BONUSES as a general rule, with base pay in the upper 80's. I'm sure many make more than that. Most pharmas have huge profits from grossly overcharging for patented drugs, many of which they only had a small part developing (all the basic re

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Scott Ritchey
I'm sure that's true when you include the cost of all the attractive, well-dressed men and women who frequent my primary-care provider. They really stand out from actual patients who usually wear work clothes, jeans, shorts, t-shirts, etc. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okieben

Re: [MBZ] dirty oil

2012-07-07 Thread Larry T
My mistake - the writer said he had recently changed the oil ... after 1000 miles something else besides dirty oil is going on... as in "I have about 1k on the recent oil fill in Frosch.Oil is black as night and nasty. Granted, I used rotella 20-50,... " But it was just a suggestion - "

Re: [MBZ] Heat pump.

2012-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Max Dillon wrote: Is this a fair price? I just paid $1660 delivered for a 2 ton Goodman heat pump system (outside condenser unit, inside handler, 50 foot copper line set). R410, 13 SEER. It comes with the refrigerant charge, I can install myself with about 20 hours of labor, plus supplies l

Re: [MBZ] Strobing?

2012-07-07 Thread Rolf
A resistor is all that is needed but that is inefficient and then you lose the ability to control intensity (brake lights). I've found cadillac's brake lights to be the worst. -Rolf On 7/7/2012 10:40 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Max Dillon writes: Almost every single appliance I own uses LED

Re: [MBZ] Heat pump.

2012-07-07 Thread Max Dillon
Is this a fair price? I just paid $1660 delivered for a 2 ton Goodman heat pump system (outside condenser unit, inside handler, 50 foot copper line set). R410, 13 SEER. It comes with the refrigerant charge, I can install myself with about 20 hours of labor, plus supplies like silver solder, n

Re: [MBZ] MB topic - cosidering waxing top of 126

2012-07-07 Thread WILTON
Not concerned 'bout heat's effect on the "process;" that's easily taken care of; concerned 'bout heat's effect on ME! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB topic - cosidering waxing

Re: [MBZ] MB topic - cosidering waxing top of 126

2012-07-07 Thread Dan Penoff
The heat really won't affect the process - it's just really important to never wax in full sunlight or a surface that has recently been in the sun and has a high surface temperature. That being said, a nap is probably a better choice. Dan about to head out to the garage to put another finish co

[MBZ] MB topic - cosidering waxing top of 126

2012-07-07 Thread WILTON
Was thinking about going out to clean and wax top of black 126, but decided to take nap instead when I noticed that it's 91F headed to 104. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okieb

Re: [MBZ] Heat pump.

2012-07-07 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley writes: > OTOH, the guys on an HVAC forum tell me that a Goodman dealer buys > from Goodman for substantially less than I paid. Makes me wonder how > the guys without a dealership who buy from the supply houses can ever > compete. Most people replace their furnace in a panic, in Janu

Re: [MBZ] Strobing?

2012-07-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Manufacturers use PWM (pulse-width modulation) to send a square wave to the LEDs with a peak voltage and current above the continuous rating. This allows the LED to be driven at a much greater brightness that it would have with a continuous (lower) voltage applied to it. Depending on the frequ

Re: [MBZ] Strobing?

2012-07-07 Thread Allan Streib
Max Dillon writes: > Almost every single appliance I own uses LED lights, so they are all > pulsing and strobing? Guess I'm lucky I don't notice it. Do you > notice it everywhere? It used to be pretty obvious on old LED digital displays (calculators, watches) but I always assumed that was b

Re: [MBZ] Strobing?

2012-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Leds have to be pulsed or they burn out. I disagree. They CAN be brighter WITHOUT burning out IF pulsed. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscr

Re: [MBZ] Strobing?

2012-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
I don't find an issue with LEDs but if I am in a flourescent-lighted room for any length of time I start to get eye twitches and headaches. --R On 7/7/12 10:29 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Almost every single appliance I own uses LED lights, so they are all pulsing and strobing? Guess I'm lucky I

Re: [MBZ] Strobing?

2012-07-07 Thread Craig
On Sat, 07 Jul 2012 09:31:17 -0400 Rolf wrote: > Leds have to be pulsed or they burn out. No, LEDs do not have to be pulsed. Some of the newer high-brightness ones, for example, have a shorter life if they are pulsed. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] Strobing?

2012-07-07 Thread Max Dillon
Almost every single appliance I own uses LED lights, so they are all pulsing and strobing? Guess I'm lucky I don't notice it. Do you notice it everywhere? Rolf wrote: >I certainly see it. Leds have to be pulsed or they burn out. > >Sent via string from my tin can. > > -- Max Dillon Charles

Re: [MBZ] Heat pump.

2012-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: That, or find someone with a sales tax exemption certificate or business license and buy it from a local wholesaler. Johnstone Supply wanted $1059 for my furnace that I got for $831 (before deducting a 6% coupon) shipped from an internet dealer in Florida. I was rather surp

Re: [MBZ] Strobing?

2012-07-07 Thread Rolf
I certainly see it. Leds have to be pulsed or they burn out. Sent via string from my tin can. OK Don wrote: >I'll try that, as I haven' noticed the strobing either. > >On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Craig wrote: > >> With subject car about 100 - 150 yards ahead, glance to the left side and >>

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Most drug companies spend more on advertizing than they do on R&D. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http:/

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Tim C
On Jul 6, 2012 3:15 PM, "WILTON" wrote: > > 'Don't know 'bout prices at other pharmacies - don't even know total price at MY pharmacy other than HIGH - MY federally mandated fee (as I understand it) is a set fee (very small part of total) per prescription (fee keeps creeping upward since its incep

Re: [MBZ] prescription costs

2012-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: Yes, even group trips by chartered bus, weren't there? Don't they do that any more? One of my Senators, Debbie Stabenow, used to charter those buses to aid in the illegal importation of drugs. The prices were lower in Canada because the government set the prices, and generally

Re: [MBZ] LED lights idiotic?

2012-07-07 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I assume we're talking about putting LEDs in older cars to replace traditional light bulbs... I've found when original lights are not acceptable, its because they need cleaning or to have the reflectors replaced and new bulbs installed. After 20 years, things can get pretty cloudy inside a light.