If the idle is set too low the same lights will come on until the engine is
revved up a bit and the alternator starts charging better. I am still
betting on a loose ground or weak alternator.(alternator mounted securely?
Mine wasn't.another story.). Engine to chassis ground good?
Mike
On Dec
On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:51:23 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
wrote:
Wait a tick. I just had one more thought.
When I turn on the key to run the 3 indicator lights (parking brake,
brake wear and low fuel) all come on dim.
I seem to vaugely remember that field current comes through the
instrument
I looked at the belt and saw that just as it had before, the belt had
shredded just a small portion, maybe 1/8" on the inboard edge. The
rest of the belt is intact and undamaged.
Belt alignment? Specifically any angle on an idler pulley, or
perhaps an alternator with incorrect spacers?
-- Jim
On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:51:23 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
wrote:
> Wait a tick. I just had one more thought.
>
> When I turn on the key to run the 3 indicator lights (parking brake,
> brake wear and low fuel) all come on dim.
>
> I seem to vaugely remember that field current comes through the
> inst
Yeah the two tone paint is in great shape like the left rear door.
John
On Dec 3, 2012 5:15 PM, "clay monroe" wrote:
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/3444742628.html
>
> I think there is a $400 om617 in PDX
>
>
> clay
>
>
> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
> 1972 220D - Gump - She is
hard to tell. The seats look to have been either euro or updated. Added the
rear door, so must have had somebody willing to keep it looking ok and on the
road
clay
On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> I have a feeling that car is pretty rough in person. I have an engine fo
I have a feeling that car is pretty rough in person. I have an engine for it
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On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:15 PM, clay monroe wrote:
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/3444742628.html
>
> I think there is a $400 om617 in PDX
>
>
> clay
>
>
> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone
Dan,
Disconcerting to hear- I'd replaced that belt ROUGHLY a year before you
bought it. The interesting thing was I'd been getting an occasional squeak
so I got a Continental replacement; found that the belt on the car (which
had about 30k miles/2 years) showed signs of imminent failure with chun
http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3414876270.html
The guy has not realistically thought out the future for this ride.
This is a parts car and only a parts car from my point of view. $6k for a new
engine or rebuild, full exhaust, interior and center console controls are going
to need expens
http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/0810dp_2008_volkswagen_touareg_v10_tdi/viewall.html
VW diesel V10 Touareg. Uses gears. Might be a belt inside the thing
somewhere, but no external belts.
-Dave Walton
On Monday, December 3, 2012, wrote:
> > ..Hmm. There are of course plenty of cars out th
Such as?
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On Dec 3, 2012, at 6:57 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:
>> ..Hmm. There are of course plenty of cars out there with chain-driven
>> cams,
>> and a few with gear-driven ones... but was an engine ever made with no
>> belts at all? I.e., all accessories chain- or gear- d
Wait a tick. I just had one more thought.
When I turn on the key to run the 3 indicator lights (parking brake, brake wear
and low fuel) all come on dim.
I seem to vaugely remember that field current comes through the instrument
cluster. What if the alternator indicator bulb failed?
-Curt
Date
Someone is getting confused. No mention of a Focus - this is a 1992 300E.
Dan
On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:37 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:
> No experience with these kinds of belts, but had a problem once with metal
> gears where the bearings did not last. Finally checked between the teeth on
> every gear
No experience with these kinds of belts, but had a problem once with metal
gears where the bearings did not last. Finally checked between the teeth on
every gear and found debris that had been flattened so much it was not
obvious on casual inspection. Scraped it out and the bearing problem was
s
http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/3444742628.html
I think there is a $400 om617 in PDX
clay
1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
I had a 123 oe alternator fail with this, plus the alternator light would
come on only when the car was turned off (other lights were off then).
Replaced the alternator but it was probably just the regulator. I also
have a known ground issue, but that took it back to normal at least.
Best,
Tim
On
What if said cheaper accessory seizes? When it's belt driven, it
only breaks a belt I've seen this happen more than once with a/c
and alternators.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (159,xxx mi)
Uh.that is what shear pins or shear bolts are for. Every powered
boat h
> ..Hmm. There are of course plenty of cars out there with chain-driven
> cams,
> and a few with gear-driven ones... but was an engine ever made with no
> belts at all? I.e., all accessories chain- or gear- driven? (Not
> counting
> motorcycle engines since they don't have any accessories to s
> ...I looked at the belt and saw that just as it had before, the belt had
> shredded just a small portion, maybe 1/8" on the inboard edge. The rest of
> the belt is intact and undamaged.
>
> Any suggestions as to what might might be causing this?..
>
> Pully alignment.
RLE
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The fan is out of whack and slowly nicking bits of the belt until you get a
failure condition
clay
On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
> Eldest son comes to me on Saturday and says the belt on his car started
> shredding Friday night.
>
> We replaced said belt for the exact same rea
Found one problem, but that is odd behavior for an alternator failure. I think
it probably is THE problem, looking forward to finding out.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
OK Don wrote:
>I think you found it --
>
>On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Curt Raymond
>wrote:
>
>> Looks
I think you found it --
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> Looks like the unlikely possibility #1 (alternator problems) is the
> reality but please give me a reality check here.
>
> Engine off - around 12.5v (cheapo analog voltmeter)
> Engine running - around 12.5v
> Engine ru
Looks like the unlikely possibility #1 (alternator problems) is the reality but
please give me a reality check here.
Engine off - around 12.5v (cheapo analog voltmeter)
Engine running - around 12.5v
Engine running headlights, blower and rear defroster on - 12v
revving the engine doesn't change an
Check the fan pulley, it can be put on wrong way round (and the water
pump pulley, if I remember correctly). The difference is just about 1
and one half ribs, so eventually the belt shreds on one side (the rear
on my brother's car) and works fine so long as you don't mind the mess.
The dif
On 03/12/2012 3:42 PM, dbl...@comcast.net wrote:
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Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 09:28:52 -0800
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On Dec 3, 2012 9:21 AM, "Gerry Arch
Oh, right. Possibility #3, enhanced by the almost completely random nature of
the temp gauge. I've got another cluster I've been meaning to swap in to see if
it fixed the temp gauge problem...
So I'll check for charging first, followed by changing the cluster which I
think is easier than going
Bad ground, loose connection on alternator, weak regulator or alternator.
Probably nothing to do with the indicators seeing other things light up.
Mike
On Dec 3, 2012 4:29 PM, "Curt Raymond" wrote:
> Any idea why the parking brake indicator, brake wear indicator and low
> fuel indicator would a
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 09:28:52 -0800
> From: Alex Chamberlain
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92 300E Eating Serpentine Belta?
> Message-ID:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On Dec 3, 2012 9:21 AM, "Gerry Archer"
> wrote:
> >
> > Gerry.
Bad ground somewhere.
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On Dec 3, 2012, at 16:29, Curt Raymond wrote:
> Any idea why the parking brake indicator, brake wear indicator and low fuel
> indicator would all come on just randomly?
> Last night heading home
Any idea why the parking brake indicator, brake wear indicator and low fuel
indicator would all come on just randomly?
Last night heading home in my '84 190D those three lights came on but not even
at full brightness. It was raining and late so I didn't troubleshoot, just
grabbed my 240D for tod
What if said cheaper accessory seizes? When it's belt driven, it only
breaks a belt I've seen this happen more than once with a/c and
alternators.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (159,xxx mi)
On 12/3/2012 3:07 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
On Dec 3, 2012 9:21 AM, "Gerry Archer
On Dec 3, 2012 9:21 AM, "Gerry Archer" wrote:
Gerrywho prefers chains or gears.
Hmm. There are of course plenty of cars out there with chain-driven cams,
and a few with gear-driven ones... but was an engine ever made with no
belts at all? I.e., all accessories chain- or gear- driven?
"Cover" is the correct term. Navy Blue may appear to be black to land lubbers
and poly-wogs. ;)
You may carry on. :0
--
Max Dillon
Charleston, would rather be sailing
'95 E300
'87 300TD
WILTON wrote:
>'Zackly.
>
>Wilton
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Rich Thomas"
>To: "Merced
'Zackly.
Wilton
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Anybody there? yhe5equ5
No lids indoors
--R
On 12/3/12 2:41 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
Did they have scrambled eggs on the brim
Not sure - I'll have to take a closer look.
What is interesting is his comment about hitting a bump in this person's
driveway and then the belt shredding. As one might expect, a small piece came
loose and started whipping around. Thankfully, he's smart enough to shut off
the engine and investig
Is there anything near the belt that could move and bump the edge of it
when the car flexes a bit?
Randy
On 03/12/2012 12:29 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
This is an interesting question, as he mention it happening when it immediately
following going over some sort of bump in a driveway... I dismisse
No lids indoors
--R
On 12/3/12 2:41 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
Did they have scrambled eggs on the brim of their hats?
(Not from a food fight)
Dan
On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:37 PM, "WILTON" wrote:
Max, is that black or Navy blue? Always looks black to me, too. ;<)
Wilton
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4 little clouds with lightning on mine; 6 little clouds with lightning on
generals' hat brims.
Wilton
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Anybody there? yhe5equ5
Did they have s
Did they have scrambled eggs on the brim of their hats?
(Not from a food fight)
Dan
On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:37 PM, "WILTON" wrote:
> Max, is that black or Navy blue? Always looks black to me, too. ;<)
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas"
>
> To: "Mercedes Discussi
Max, is that black or Navy blue? Always looks black to me, too. ;<)
Wilton
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Anybody there? yhe5equ5
4 and 3 with some gold stars or something
4 and 3 with some gold stars or something. I think I read them right.
A friend of mine was a captain then an admiral, when he was a captain I
think he had the 4 but I only saw him with the whites. These guys had
the black suits (MIB) with the stuff on their sleeves.
--R
On 12/3/12 1:35 PM,
4 stripes on one, 3 on the other? (Or an eagle and a silver leaf?)
Wilton
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Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 1:19 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: Anybody there? yhe5equ5
I am getting banned again
--R
Orig
This is an interesting question, as he mention it happening when it immediately
following going over some sort of bump in a driveway... I dismissed this,
thinking that since everything the belt drives is attached to the engine in
some fashion it wouldn't affect the belt.
Could I be wrong?
Dan
Car shake at idle?
--R
On 12/3/12 1:13 PM, Tim C wrote:
Total guess, but bad engine mounts leading to shake at idle?
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I am getting banned again
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Subject:Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:10:29 -0500
From: Rich Thomas
To: Mercedes Discussion List
I had dinner the other night with a Navy Captain and a Commander. At
least I think that is
On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 13:04:25 -0500 "Gerry Archer"
wrote:
> I wouldn't mind having a car with flat belts so long as a broken belt
> didn't destroy the engine.
> (Don't remember the name of that type engine.)
> Gerry
Non-interference. With interference engines, the pistons will hit the
valves if t
On Dec 3, 2012 9:21 AM, "Gerry Archer" wrote:
Gerrywho prefers chains or gears.
Hmm. There are of course plenty of cars out there with chain-driven cams,
and a few with gear-driven ones... but was an engine ever made with no
belts at all? I.e., all accessories chain- or gear- driven? (N
On Dec 3, 2012 11:43 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote:
>
> Everything appears to be tight and lined up. No slop in any of the
pulleys that I could find.
Total guess, but bad engine mounts leading to shake at idle? Or, does son
usually drive with windows down in summer? Might the compressor pulley be
shak
Is there a tensioning pulley out of alignment?
Any oil or other fluid leaks? They can weaken the belt so it wears out faster.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
Dan Penoff wrote:
>Eldest son comes to me on Saturday and says the belt on his car started
>shredding Friday night.
>
>
Dillon, Max, present!
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
WILTON wrote:
>Wilton
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Maybe one of the pulleys is out is alignment causing belt to ride over the edge
of the pulley?
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On Dec 3, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
> Eldest son comes to me on Saturday and says the belt on his car started
> shredding Friday night.
>
> We replaced said belt for t
On Dec 3, 2012 9:21 AM, "Gerry Archer" wrote:
>
> Gerrywho prefers chains or gears.
>
Hmm. There are of course plenty of cars out there with chain-driven cams,
and a few with gear-driven ones... but was an engine ever made with no
belts at all? I.e., all accessories chain- or gear- driven?
Watch the belt while cranking the engine without starting it. Use a
different brand of belt when replacing it if no problem is seen. A dial
indicator rubbing on the side and the belt contact area of each slowly
turned pulley with the belt off will sometimes diagnose a hidden problem.
Incorrec
Everything appears to be tight and lined up. No slop in any of the pulleys that
I could find.
Dan
On Dec 3, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Rich Thomas
wrote:
> Pulleys lined up correctly? Something cockeyed? Pulley runs true? All
> elements tight?
>
> --R
>
> On 12/3/12 10:26 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>
This is not Banned is it?
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Pulleys lined up correctly? Something cockeyed? Pulley runs true? All
elements tight?
--R
On 12/3/12 10:26 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
Eldest son comes to me on Saturday and says the belt on his car started
shredding Friday night.
We replaced said belt for the exact same reason a good 6-8 months
One of the pulleys offset from the others, or the tensioner has tilted off at an
angle?
Mitch.
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Eldest son comes to me on Saturday and says the belt on his car started
shredding Friday night.
We replaced said belt for the exact same reason a good 6-8 months ago which up
until now has been fine.
When we replaced the belt the last time I made a point of inspecting all of the
pulleys to mak
No, I'm here.
--R
On 12/3/12 9:49 AM, WILTON wrote:
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Getting ready to go pull parts for Bob R.
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On 12/3/2012 08:49, WILTON wrote:
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A nap sounds good. Too much to do in nice weather. Enjoy yours.
Mike
On Dec 3, 2012 9:58 AM, "WILTON" wrote:
> Sunny, 59; s'posed to go to 73 today, 75 tomorrow.
> Well, I may as well take a nap. ;<)
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Michael Canfield" >
> To: "Mercedes Discu
Sunny, 59; s'posed to go to 73 today, 75 tomorrow.
Well, I may as well take a nap. ;<)
Wilton
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody there?
Good morning Wilton. Working here.
Good morning Wilton. Working here. About 60 degrees here in NY
today...How is the weather in NC?
Mike
On Dec 3, 2012 9:50 AM, "WILTON" wrote:
> Well, the electrons are flowing, anyway.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "WILTON"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 9:49
Well, the electrons are flowing, anyway.
Wilton
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Subject: [MBZ] Anybody there?
Wilton
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