Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[OK Don]

Chrysler had a push button transmission back in the late 50's or early 60's
didn't they? - nothing new there.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>  My gl has the keyless go(push button), I was in a dodge truck today,
>> brand new, had a knob on the dash next to the radio that you turned to
>> shift the gears
>>
>
> Now that's real manly!
>
> 
>
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Re: [MBZ] How I Spent My Spring Break - (part trios)

[Dieselhead]

And those were not even near the worst motor mounts I've seen.  (or 
you've seen)



Almost forgot to mention - the car drives/rides wonderfully with the 
new motor mounts. Any engine noise or vibration is almost 
imperceptible. Previously you could feel it idling.


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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Dieselhead]

Way to GO, Curt!


I had one of those on a rental car, fortunately there was an LED 
screen in the dash prompting me with the foot on the brake thing...


Which reminds me, the other day after work my 240D wouldn't start, 
it acted kind of crazy, I pushed my glow plug button and heard the 
relay clunk, then shudder on and off, turned the key and nothing. I 
jumped out and opened the hood. The car parked in front of me was a 
late model Golf TDI, the owner said "You okay?" I replied "dunno 
yet." he came over and shook his head obviously out of his league.


Acting on a hunch I retrieved the adjustable wrench from the console 
and pulled the ground cable. The guy said "I've got this guy you 
could call if you need, he's real good" the guy pulls out his phone 
and starts looking for the number, I spun the ground cable back and 
forth a couple times on the battery post, tightened it down, jumped 
back in the car and hit the button, the relay clicked and held 10 
seconds later the car was running. I jumped out and closed the hood. 
"Hey thanks for checking on me."

Jumped back in the car, the dude scratched his head as I drove off...

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Dieselhead]

Craig wrote:


Why? All of us have done something like that at one point or another.


A friend of mine called the dealer to find out why his brand new 
Nissan wouldn't start. "Did you have your foot on the brake when you 
hit the 'Start' button?"


I hope to never own a car with start and stop buttons.

Mitch.


That stupidity will peak when you have to click "start" to stop

Bill's stupidity will go on a long time.

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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Dieselhead]

My gl has the keyless go(push button), I was in a dodge truck today, 
brand new, had a knob on the dash next to the radio that you turned 
to shift the gears


Now that's real manly!



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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Dieselhead]

Another reason I love 240Ds (of any stripe), 123s, 124s and 126s. 
'specially the Diesels!


No dopey toadas for me please!


I had a rental a couple of years ago that had the silly "Start" 
button and no ignition.  As long as the fob was close enough the car 
would start (it was in my pocket.)


I could never shake the need to reach up to the dash with the key 
and try to put it into an ignition.  Really disturbing.


Dan


On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:


 Craig wrote:


 Why? All of us have done something like that at one point or another.


 A friend of mine called the dealer to find out why his brand new 
Nissan wouldn't start. "Did you have your foot on the brake when 
you hit the 'Start' button?"


 I hope to never own a car with start and stop buttons.

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Dieselhead]

Didn't have the car in Park.



Let the ridicule commence.

Dan


POS.  Kleb will give you $500 for it if you deliver!

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Re: [MBZ] How I Spent My Spring Break - (part trios)

[Dan Penoff]

Almost forgot to mention - the car drives/rides wonderfully with the new motor 
mounts. Any engine noise or vibration is almost imperceptible. Previously you 
could feel it idling.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[WILTON]

'Hope he learned something.  I learned my battery cable lesson in '48 when 
my brothers had left the '37 Ford "unattended" in the yard for coupla days 
and I took it for driving experience around and around the house 'til it 
wouldn't start after I had taken a little break.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" 

To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence,was Ignition Lock Cylinder 
Replacement?



I had one of those on a rental car, fortunately there was an LED screen in 
the dash prompting me with the foot on the brake thing...


Which reminds me, the other day after work my 240D wouldn't start, it 
acted kind of crazy, I pushed my glow plug button and heard the relay 
clunk, then shudder on and off, turned the key and nothing. I jumped out 
and opened the hood. The car parked in front of me was a late model Golf 
TDI, the owner said "You okay?" I replied "dunno yet." he came over and 
shook his head obviously out of his league.


Acting on a hunch I retrieved the adjustable wrench from the console and 
pulled the ground cable. The guy said "I've got this guy you could call if 
you need, he's real good" the guy pulls out his phone and starts looking 
for the number, I spun the ground cable back and forth a couple times on 
the battery post, tightened it down, jumped back in the car and hit the 
button, the relay clicked and held 10 seconds later the car was running. I 
jumped out and closed the hood. "Hey thanks for checking on me."

Jumped back in the car, the dude scratched his head as I drove off...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:59:03 -0500
From: Mitch Haley 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence,was Ignition Lock
   Cylinder Replacement?
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Craig wrote:


Why? All of us have done something like that at one point or another.


A friend of mine called the dealer to find out why his brand new Nissan 
wouldn't
start. "Did you have your foot on the brake when you hit the 'Start' 
button?"


I hope to never own a car with start and stop buttons.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Curt Raymond]

You mean to request the transmission to please shift the gears for you.

I'm loving my newly "repaired" 240D with added power. 3 pedals, 4 forward gears 
and I use 'em all.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:29:51 -0500
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence,was Ignition Lock
Cylinder Replacement?
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Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii

My gl has the keyless go(push button), I was in a dodge truck today, brand new, 
had a knob on the dash next to the radio that you turned to shift the gears

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Re: [MBZ] Bosch Water Pump

[WILTON]

See what Q, Jr. has to say.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "OK Don" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bosch Water Pump


Ask Q - oh wait, he retired. I wonder if Q Jr. has an opinion? Is Tom 
still

there - he could tell you.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:31 PM, clay  wrote:


I am in the process of sourcing parts to redo the leaking water pump in
Frosch.  Went to the TrentQ site and worldpac seems to have a variety of
pumps that have quite the negative following in online forums.  Hanson at
the Classic center has nothing nice to say about Graf, Geba or Laso.
 Anybody thing NAPA makes a good pump.  And then there is Bosch. 
Opinions

on which aftermarket pump is the best bet?

clay


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1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Curt Raymond]

I had one of those on a rental car, fortunately there was an LED screen in the 
dash prompting me with the foot on the brake thing...

Which reminds me, the other day after work my 240D wouldn't start, it acted 
kind of crazy, I pushed my glow plug button and heard the relay clunk, then 
shudder on and off, turned the key and nothing. I jumped out and opened the 
hood. The car parked in front of me was a late model Golf TDI, the owner said 
"You okay?" I replied "dunno yet." he came over and shook his head obviously 
out of his league.

Acting on a hunch I retrieved the adjustable wrench from the console and pulled 
the ground cable. The guy said "I've got this guy you could call if you need, 
he's real good" the guy pulls out his phone and starts looking for the number, 
I spun the ground cable back and forth a couple times on the battery post, 
tightened it down, jumped back in the car and hit the button, the relay clicked 
and held 10 seconds later the car was running. I jumped out and closed the 
hood. "Hey thanks for checking on me." 
Jumped back in the car, the dude scratched his head as I drove off...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:59:03 -0500
From: Mitch Haley 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence,was Ignition Lock
Cylinder Replacement?
Message-ID: <514120d7.9090...@voyager.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Craig wrote:

> Why? All of us have done something like that at one point or another.

A friend of mine called the dealer to find out why his brand new Nissan 
wouldn't 
start. "Did you have your foot on the brake when you hit the 'Start' button?"

I hope to never own a car with start and stop buttons.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

[Brian Toscano]

The turkey baster does work over time.  Without solvent or flush I'd expect
any new fluid to turn dark pretty quick.  Once you do it a few times you'd
be able to see the filter at the bottom of the reservoir for quite a while.
 The new fluid will end up cleaning stuff up or mixing with fluid you never
really got out earlier.


On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:52 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> Where do you find stoddard solvent these days? I haven't seen it years -
> but haven't really tried. I used many gallons of it washing the oil off the
> belly of Dad's C195, back in the day!
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 6:02 PM, G Mann  wrote:
>
> > I opened the return line and slipped some rubber hose over it with a
> clamp,
> > hooked up a harbor freight 12 volt pump and sucked it dry... then plumbed
> > in a 2 liter bottle of stoddard solvent and did a "power flush" of the
> > whole PS system while turning the wheel from lock to lock [car up on
> > stands] with the pump pushing fresh stoddard fluid through the entire
> > system until it ran clean. Sucked it dry of stoddard, and refilled with
> PS
> > fluid.
> >
> > Clean system... total time.. about 30 min.
> >
> > Look you system over, you will figure out how to plumb it all so the aux
> > pump cleans and cycles the whole system.
> >
> > Grant...
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> >
> > > Looking for a possible drain on the steering gear on my W140, I noticed
> > > there was a large bolt head about halfway up the front (bottom) side.
> > >
> > > Anyone know if this is a drain?
> > >
> > > I don't want to be removing bolts from the steering gear box without
> > > knowing what they are for
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

[OK Don]

Where do you find stoddard solvent these days? I haven't seen it years -
but haven't really tried. I used many gallons of it washing the oil off the
belly of Dad's C195, back in the day!

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 6:02 PM, G Mann  wrote:

> I opened the return line and slipped some rubber hose over it with a clamp,
> hooked up a harbor freight 12 volt pump and sucked it dry... then plumbed
> in a 2 liter bottle of stoddard solvent and did a "power flush" of the
> whole PS system while turning the wheel from lock to lock [car up on
> stands] with the pump pushing fresh stoddard fluid through the entire
> system until it ran clean. Sucked it dry of stoddard, and refilled with PS
> fluid.
>
> Clean system... total time.. about 30 min.
>
> Look you system over, you will figure out how to plumb it all so the aux
> pump cleans and cycles the whole system.
>
> Grant...
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>
> > Looking for a possible drain on the steering gear on my W140, I noticed
> > there was a large bolt head about halfway up the front (bottom) side.
> >
> > Anyone know if this is a drain?
> >
> > I don't want to be removing bolts from the steering gear box without
> > knowing what they are for
> >
> > Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[OK Don]

You should buy it and report back to us whether the rumor that you have to
buy two jags to keep one on the street is true or not :-)

Glad you don't think you are hurt. Go to the Doc and find out for sure.
(Ask your lawyer --- )

Henry does sound like he's a delight, and will become a hand full later
(good for him)!

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Donald Snook  wrote:

> Yep, the Snook car saga begins again.
>
> Before you groan because I am trading cars again, this time its not my
> fault.  I was in a car wreck.  Its pretty funny that a personal injury
> trial lawyer gets rear-ended.  But, the 2003 Lexus that belonged to my
> Stepmother is much worse for wear.  It really got smacked.  The insurance
> company is considering totaling it.  If they do not total it, I do not want
> the car because it has frame damage.  The car really took a hit.
>
> At any rate, my indy has a car that I am considering, but I want to make
> sure I am not acting crazy.  I don't think I got a head injury in the crash
> . . . Just Kidding.
>
> It is a 2004 Jaquar XJR.  I know, when I heard Jaguar I thought that is
> CRAZY.  But, I can get a great deal on this car.  I mean a real bargain.
>  My indy wants to buy the lexus (in its present smashed condition) and then
> I pay him a little bit more for the jag.  I get to keep the insurance
> check.  In fact, I would basically be getting the Jag for free.
> My indy bought it from the local Jaguar dealer when they wholesaled it.
>  It has 110,000 miles and is in AMAZING shape.  Apparently, the biggest
> problems with these cars is the air ride suspension.  The previous owner
> had several problems and finally just had the local Jag dealer replace
> everything with regular (i.e. non Jag air ride) components at a cost of
> $6,000.  They gave him a lifetime warranty on the repairs.  Other than
> that, I have not found anything awful about these cars.  The R indicates it
> has the 4.2L supercharged V8 and this thing is SCREAMING FAST.  Not that I
> need that.  It is also a beautiful car.   Am I being crazy to consider this
> car?  I think Jaguar has improved dramatically since Ford bought them.
>
> Donald H. Snook
> [cid:image001.jpg@01CE1F0E.88618A20]
>
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Re: [MBZ] Bosch Water Pump

[OK Don]

Ask Q - oh wait, he retired. I wonder if Q Jr. has an opinion? Is Tom still
there - he could tell you.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:31 PM, clay  wrote:

> I am in the process of sourcing parts to redo the leaking water pump in
> Frosch.  Went to the TrentQ site and worldpac seems to have a variety of
> pumps that have quite the negative following in online forums.  Hanson at
> the Classic center has nothing nice to say about Graf, Geba or Laso.
>  Anybody thing NAPA makes a good pump.  And then there is Bosch.  Opinions
> on which aftermarket pump is the best bet?
>
> clay
>
>
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] This car should be fun

[OK Don]

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:

>
>  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/**motoring/car-manufacturers/**
> volkswagen/9909255/Volkswagen-**XL1-review.html
>
> Gerrywho wants one.
>
>
So do I ---

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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Max Dillon]

Glad it was simple!
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Dan Penoff  wrote:

>Didn't have the car in Park.
>
>
>
>Let the ridicule commence.
>
>Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Mitch Haley]

Dan Penoff wrote:

I had a rental a couple of years ago that had the silly "Start" button and no 
ignition.  As long as the fob was close enough the car would start (it was in my pocket.)

I could never shake the need to reach up to the dash with the key and try to 
put it into an ignition.  Really disturbing.


Car and Driver did a three day track test of several cars recently.
The Focus only ran the first day, because they couldn't restart it after one of 
their staffers started the car with the fob on the roof before taking a few hot 
laps. When they found the fob it was smashed.


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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

My gl has the keyless go(push button), I was in a dodge truck today, brand new, 
had a knob on the dash next to the radio that you turned to shift the gears

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 13, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Craig wrote:
> 
>> Why? All of us have done something like that at one point or another.
> 
> A friend of mine called the dealer to find out why his brand new Nissan 
> wouldn't start. "Did you have your foot on the brake when you hit the 'Start' 
> button?"
> 
> I hope to never own a car with start and stop buttons.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[WILTON]

'Car I learned to drive on at 14, a '37 Ford in '48 had an ON/OFF toggle
switch on the steering column lock; 'flip the switch on, hit start button
with left thumb and ready to go.  Well, unless battery was dead, and ya had
to get a push.

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder 
Replacement?



I had a rental a couple of years ago that had the silly "Start" button and 
no ignition.  As long as the fob was close enough the car would start (it 
was in my pocket.)


I could never shake the need to reach up to the dash with the key and try 
to put it into an ignition.  Really disturbing.


Dan


On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:


Craig wrote:


Why? All of us have done something like that at one point or another.


A friend of mine called the dealer to find out why his brand new Nissan 
wouldn't start. "Did you have your foot on the brake when you hit the 
'Start' button?"


I hope to never own a car with start and stop buttons.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Dan Penoff]

I had a rental a couple of years ago that had the silly "Start" button and no 
ignition.  As long as the fob was close enough the car would start (it was in 
my pocket.)

I could never shake the need to reach up to the dash with the key and try to 
put it into an ignition.  Really disturbing.

Dan


On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

> Craig wrote:
> 
>> Why? All of us have done something like that at one point or another.
> 
> A friend of mine called the dealer to find out why his brand new Nissan 
> wouldn't start. "Did you have your foot on the brake when you hit the 'Start' 
> button?"
> 
> I hope to never own a car with start and stop buttons.
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Mitch Haley]

Craig wrote:


Why? All of us have done something like that at one point or another.


A friend of mine called the dealer to find out why his brand new Nissan wouldn't 
start. "Did you have your foot on the brake when you hit the 'Start' button?"


I hope to never own a car with start and stop buttons.

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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[WILTON]

When it happen to me, I was mighty glad to have that feeling of relief as I 
slipped it into PARK and recovered from a near-heart attack.


Wilton

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Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder 
Replacement?




On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:59:45 -0400 Dan Penoff  wrote:


Didn't have the car in Park.



Let the ridicule commence.


Why? All of us have done something like that at one point or another.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Dan Penoff]

Heh.  Just preparing for my public humiliation, that's all.  And yes, I have 
done my share of silly things.  I have no problem pointing them out, either, 
just part of life.

Dan


On Mar 13, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Craig wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:59:45 -0400 Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> Didn't have the car in Park.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Let the ridicule commence.
> 
> Why? All of us have done something like that at one point or another.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

[Dan Penoff]

The return line on the W140 is pretty tough to get to, nothing like earlier 
models where it's right out there with a hose clamp on it.  I don't have any 
Stoddard solvent, but I do have two liters of MB PS fluid, so I have plenty to 
flush.

I'm not keen about the turkey baster/suck the reservoir dry/refill/repeat 
approach, as I think it's horribly inefficient and won't get all of the old 
fluid out.  I would be a lot more comfortable with a drain and refill at least.

I have some things to take care of in the morning, then I'll get it up on jack 
stands and have a closer look.  If I can remove the centering bolt and use that 
to drain the system I would be happy with that

Thanks,

Dan


On Mar 13, 2013, at 7:02 PM, G Mann wrote:

> I opened the return line and slipped some rubber hose over it with a clamp,
> hooked up a harbor freight 12 volt pump and sucked it dry... then plumbed
> in a 2 liter bottle of stoddard solvent and did a "power flush" of the
> whole PS system while turning the wheel from lock to lock [car up on
> stands] with the pump pushing fresh stoddard fluid through the entire
> system until it ran clean. Sucked it dry of stoddard, and refilled with PS
> fluid.
> 
> Clean system... total time.. about 30 min.
> 
> Look you system over, you will figure out how to plumb it all so the aux
> pump cleans and cycles the whole system.
> 
> Grant...
> 
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> Looking for a possible drain on the steering gear on my W140, I noticed
>> there was a large bolt head about halfway up the front (bottom) side.
>> 
>> Anyone know if this is a drain?
>> 
>> I don't want to be removing bolts from the steering gear box without
>> knowing what they are for
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Craig]

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:59:45 -0400 Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Didn't have the car in Park.
> 
> 
> 
> Let the ridicule commence.

Why? All of us have done something like that at one point or another.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Dan Penoff]

When I used to be a corporate "troubleshooter" I can't count the number of 
times I had to tell people that "Don't worry, we've all done it ourselves.  
Your only mistake was having someone catch you when it happened"

Thank goodness it was something simple.  I had no idea the W140 chassis lock 
system was so different from earlier models.  At least now I know.

I also took the opportunity to hit the lock cylinder with a little bit of 
graphite while I was there.

Dan

On Mar 13, 2013, at 7:27 PM, WILTON wrote:

> Augh!
> 
> 'Glad it was only that!
> Well, I think I've even had that with my lowly 124 and 126.  ;<)
> 
> Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[Craig]

On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:12:30 -0400 "WILTON"  wrote:

> Just its.  ;<)' would be used between t and s if one were meaning
> it is. To show possession, it's just its.  ;<)

ATTABOY, WILTON!


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Re: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[WILTON]

Augh!

'Glad it was only that!
Well, I think I've even had that with my lowly 124 and 126.  ;<)

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] Let the ridicule commence,was Ignition Lock Cylinder 
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Didn't have the car in Park.



Let the ridicule commence.

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[WILTON]

Does it turn back to ON and running, START, etc?
I don't have a solution for 140; just wondering if you can still drive car?

Wilton

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Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?


Let me correct this - the key goes completely to the left, that is, into 
the "Off" position.


Dan

On Mar 13, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Just pulled up in the driveway and started to shut off the car.  Ignition 
key turns in the cylinder just fine, but it won't come out in 
position 1.  It will come out about 1/2" and that's it.  No amount of 
jiggling or twisting will release it.


Initial research suggests that the W140 has a totally different ignition 
lock cylinder arrangement from previous models, and I saw nothing in the 
way of holes for pins to insert in the cylinder like on a 124 or 126.


This is unknown territory for me.  Anyone?

Dan with a spare key
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Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

[G Mann]

I opened the return line and slipped some rubber hose over it with a clamp,
hooked up a harbor freight 12 volt pump and sucked it dry... then plumbed
in a 2 liter bottle of stoddard solvent and did a "power flush" of the
whole PS system while turning the wheel from lock to lock [car up on
stands] with the pump pushing fresh stoddard fluid through the entire
system until it ran clean. Sucked it dry of stoddard, and refilled with PS
fluid.

Clean system... total time.. about 30 min.

Look you system over, you will figure out how to plumb it all so the aux
pump cleans and cycles the whole system.

Grant...

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Looking for a possible drain on the steering gear on my W140, I noticed
> there was a large bolt head about halfway up the front (bottom) side.
>
> Anyone know if this is a drain?
>
> I don't want to be removing bolts from the steering gear box without
> knowing what they are for
>
> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Rich Thomas]

Thermite

--R

On 3/13/13 6:31 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Just pulled up in the driveway and started to shut off the car.  Ignition key turns 
in the cylinder just fine, but it won't come out in position 1.  It will come 
out about 1/2" and that's it.  No amount of jiggling or twisting will release 
it.

Initial research suggests that the W140 has a totally different ignition lock 
cylinder arrangement from previous models, and I saw nothing in the way of 
holes for pins to insert in the cylinder like on a 124 or 126.

This is unknown territory for me.  Anyone?

Dan with a spare key
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[MBZ] Let the ridicule commence, was Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Dan Penoff]

Didn't have the car in Park.



Let the ridicule commence.

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Dan Penoff]

Let me correct this - the key goes completely to the left, that is, into the 
"Off" position.

Dan

On Mar 13, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

> Just pulled up in the driveway and started to shut off the car.  Ignition key 
> turns in the cylinder just fine, but it won't come out in position 1.  It 
> will come out about 1/2" and that's it.  No amount of jiggling or twisting 
> will release it.
> 
> Initial research suggests that the W140 has a totally different ignition lock 
> cylinder arrangement from previous models, and I saw nothing in the way of 
> holes for pins to insert in the cylinder like on a 124 or 126.
> 
> This is unknown territory for me.  Anyone?
> 
> Dan with a spare key
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[MBZ] Ignition Lock Cylinder Replacement?

[Dan Penoff]

Just pulled up in the driveway and started to shut off the car.  Ignition key 
turns in the cylinder just fine, but it won't come out in position 1.  It 
will come out about 1/2" and that's it.  No amount of jiggling or twisting will 
release it.

Initial research suggests that the W140 has a totally different ignition lock 
cylinder arrangement from previous models, and I saw nothing in the way of 
holes for pins to insert in the cylinder like on a 124 or 126.

This is unknown territory for me.  Anyone?

Dan with a spare key
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Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

[Max Dillon]

There is no drain bolt, but...

The hole for the locking bolt (locks the steering gear in center position) is 
what I use.  FSM should describe that job and show the bolt.  It is either 13 
or 14mm.  Once you get it out, if the steering is pointed straight ahead, you 
will see a detent in the hole where the tip of the locking bolt engages.  

In order to get the fluid to drain, you must turn the steering off center to 
move the internals so they don't block the whole.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Dan Penoff  wrote:

>Looking for a possible drain on the steering gear on my W140, I noticed
>there was a large bolt head about halfway up the front (bottom) side.
>
>Anyone know if this is a drain?
>
>I don't want to be removing bolts from the steering gear box without
>knowing what they are for
>
>Dan
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[MBZ] Steering Gearbox Drain?

[Dan Penoff]

Here is a picture of one in an eBay auction.  The big bolt head by the mounting 
flange in the lower center is the one I was talking about.

I suspect it might hold something in place inside the steering gear...

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] How I Spent My Spring Break - (part trios)

[WILTON]

'Nother ATTABOY!

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I Spent My Spring Break - (part trios)



Just got out of the shower after doing the motor mounts.  Good news!

Despite this job being described as nightmarish in just about every 
reference I have found, it only took me three hours from start to finish.


The passenger side was the worst, amazingly, as getting the top bolt 
broken loose was a real trick.  There isn't enough room to get on it from 
above the engine, so you have to work from below, which is tough with all 
the stuff that's down there.  By using a couple of long 1/2" ratchet 
extensions and using a part of the frame as a fulcrum, I finally broke the 
top bolt loose. Oy.


Surprisingly, the driver's side mount was easier!  Once I got the lower 
bolts out, I raised the engine, which gave me room to get on the top bolt 
from above using a combination wrench.  Figuring I would have to find 
something to lever the wrench in order to apply enough torque to break the 
bolt loose, I first tried using my hand. Pop!  Darned thing came loose. 
Woo-hoo!


As an aside for anyone contemplating this job, there is a special wrench 
for removing and installing the top mount bolts that can be had for around 
$20.  While I considered buying one, I figured I would try it first 
without and then get one if I was unsuccessful.  Knowing what I do now, I 
would still suggest that someone thinking about doing this job drop the 
$20 and go with the wrench.  It would make breaking loose and tightening 
the top mount bolts far easier, and save a lot of time.


The driver's side is really tight with hoses and wiring harnesses in the 
area, so I was concerned about how I would get the mount out and the new 
one in.  With the engine jacked up as high as it would go, I was able to 
raise the mount, turn it sideways, and lower it out from underneath. New 
one went in the same way, only in reverse.


Getting the top bolt started on the driver's side mount was a challenge 
and time consuming - it would have been a lot easier with a helper.  I 
finally got it started by working from underneath.  Amazing he sorts of 
gyrations one has to accomplish to do things like this.


Everything lined up well underneath after lowering the engine, and only 
required a little bit of "tweaking" with a long screwdrivers to get the 
lower bolt holes lined up.


With the mounts tightened up, I put the fan shroud back on along with the 
air cleaner assembly and I was done.  I must have been living right today. 
I'll be going out later and will report on the difference while driving 
after that.  I had my local dealer order a transmission mount for me, 
which will be relegated to two weekends from now for installation.  Based 
on the condition of the motor mounts, I feel confident that the 
transmission mount is due as well.


Next up - power steering flush and fill.

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

[Rich Thomas]

Come on, live life on the edge!

--R

On 3/13/13 4:39 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Looking for a possible drain on the steering gear on my W140, I noticed there 
was a large bolt head about halfway up the front (bottom) side.

Anyone know if this is a drain?

I don't want to be removing bolts from the steering gear box without knowing 
what they are for

Dan
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[MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

[Dan Penoff]

Looking for a possible drain on the steering gear on my W140, I noticed there 
was a large bolt head about halfway up the front (bottom) side.

Anyone know if this is a drain?

I don't want to be removing bolts from the steering gear box without knowing 
what they are for

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] How I Spent My Spring Break - (part trios)

[WILTON]

'Reminds me: You've seen this before, but it's appropriate again.  'Bout 
nine years ago, when I was looking for a Diesel 124, I saw an add on 
cars.com for a '91 or '92 300D near York, SC. 'Called seller, who told me 
all sorts of great lies (it turned out) about how great the car was; 'got me 
to drive the 4 hours or more one way to see it. 'Could tell almost 
immediately when I saw it that it wasn't as advertised; 'opened driver's 
door and almost passed out from the strong stench (not odor - stench) of 
cigarette smoke. EVERYTHING inside the car was badly stained with nicotine. 
In spite of that and other significant issues, I foolishly made him an 
offer; 'sure glad he didn't take it.


Wilton

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I rented it from these folks:

http://www.ozoneapplications.com/rental/OMZ-3400_Rental.htm

I think the rental was $60 and shipping both ways about $30.  They were 
very responsive to my questions and also made it clear that if the smoke 
smell wasn't gone from my vehicle before the end of the rental period that 
if I contacted them I could keep the unit longer at no additional charge.


I don't think my situation was as bad as Rusty's, as his car had a 
lifetime of smoking in it.  Mine wasn't as bad, as the odor was only 
noticeable when you first got in it and went away after a minute or two.


I just had the ozone generator running for about 4 hours, and so far I 
can't smell anything.  My nose is pretty lousy from years around chemicals 
and industrial engines, so I'll have the spouse check it out when she gets 
home.  If she can't smell it I'm satisfied.  I'll still run it all night 
just for the heck of it.  Can't hurt.


Dan


On Mar 13, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:


Tell us more about the ozone generator. Did you rent one or buy one, and 
if the latter, which one and from where?
I also recall seeing instructions on how to make one but I assume you did 
not do that.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] How I Spent My Spring Break - (part trios)

[Dan Penoff]

Just got out of the shower after doing the motor mounts.  Good news!

Despite this job being described as nightmarish in just about every reference I 
have found, it only took me three hours from start to finish.

The passenger side was the worst, amazingly, as getting the top bolt broken 
loose was a real trick.  There isn't enough room to get on it from above the 
engine, so you have to work from below, which is tough with all the stuff 
that's down there.  By using a couple of long 1/2" ratchet extensions and using 
a part of the frame as a fulcrum, I finally broke the top bolt loose. Oy.

Surprisingly, the driver's side mount was easier!  Once I got the lower bolts 
out, I raised the engine, which gave me room to get on the top bolt from above 
using a combination wrench.  Figuring I would have to find something to lever 
the wrench in order to apply enough torque to break the bolt loose, I first 
tried using my hand. Pop!  Darned thing came loose. Woo-hoo!

As an aside for anyone contemplating this job, there is a special wrench for 
removing and installing the top mount bolts that can be had for around $20.  
While I considered buying one, I figured I would try it first without and then 
get one if I was unsuccessful.  Knowing what I do now, I would still suggest 
that someone thinking about doing this job drop the $20 and go with the wrench. 
 It would make breaking loose and tightening the top mount bolts far easier, 
and save a lot of time.

The driver's side is really tight with hoses and wiring harnesses in the area, 
so I was concerned about how I would get the mount out and the new one in.  
With the engine jacked up as high as it would go, I was able to raise the 
mount, turn it sideways, and lower it out from underneath. New one went in the 
same way, only in reverse.

Getting the top bolt started on the driver's side mount was a challenge and 
time consuming - it would have been a lot easier with a helper.  I finally got 
it started by working from underneath.  Amazing he sorts of gyrations one has 
to accomplish to do things like this.

Everything lined up well underneath after lowering the engine, and only 
required a little bit of "tweaking" with a long screwdrivers to get the lower 
bolt holes lined up.

With the mounts tightened up, I put the fan shroud back on along with the air 
cleaner assembly and I was done.  I must have been living right today.  I'll be 
going out later and will report on the difference while driving after that.  I 
had my local dealer order a transmission mount for me, which will be relegated 
to two weekends from now for installation.  Based on the condition of the motor 
mounts, I feel confident that the transmission mount is due as well.

Next up - power steering flush and fill.

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] How I Spent My Spring Break - (part trios)

[Dan Penoff]

I rented it from these folks:

http://www.ozoneapplications.com/rental/OMZ-3400_Rental.htm

I think the rental was $60 and shipping both ways about $30.  They were very 
responsive to my questions and also made it clear that if the smoke smell 
wasn't gone from my vehicle before the end of the rental period that if I 
contacted them I could keep the unit longer at no additional charge.

I don't think my situation was as bad as Rusty's, as his car had a lifetime of 
smoking in it.  Mine wasn't as bad, as the odor was only noticeable when you 
first got in it and went away after a minute or two.

I just had the ozone generator running for about 4 hours, and so far I can't 
smell anything.  My nose is pretty lousy from years around chemicals and 
industrial engines, so I'll have the spouse check it out when she gets home.  
If she can't smell it I'm satisfied.  I'll still run it all night just for the 
heck of it.  Can't hurt.

Dan


On Mar 13, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>> 
> Tell us more about the ozone generator. Did you rent one or buy one, and if 
> the latter, which one and from where?
> I also recall seeing instructions on how to make one but I assume you did not 
> do that.
> 
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Spring Break (so far - long)

[Dan Penoff]

Probably not, as the W140 uses the electronics to determine when to turn on the 
aux fans, as opposed to just using a switch.  I don't recall enough about the 
W124 to be sure of that, so it might be worth checking into...

Dan


On Mar 13, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

> Great question, will that modification work on my 124 cars?
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
> 
> Craig  wrote:
> 
> 
>>> While I am in the neighborhood, I take the time to disassemble the
>>> connections to the coolant temperature sender that controls the
>>> auxiliary fans.  By adding a 1.1K ohm resistor across the sender, the
>>> auxiliary fans will now come on around 92C instead of the 100C
>> starting
>>> point.  The 1.1K ohm resistor gets soldered into the sockets with the
>>> wires and the connector reassembled.  Voila!
>> 
>> Good fix. I wonder if it applies to other cars as well.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] How I Spent My Spring Break - (part trios)

[Dan Penoff]

I rented one from the same place Rusty got his a while back. Very economical, 
and very customer oriented folks, too.

I'll post details shortly.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 13, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> On 13/03/2013 11:03 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>> Ran some errands this morning and then got the car on the ramps.
>> 
>> Set up the ozone generator inside the car and turned it on. B
>> 
>> Got under the car and prepared to replace the engine mounts.  Oh, boy! The 
>> passenger side mount is out and ready to be replaced.  Took me a little 
>> under an hour, with a good part of that trying to work out the dynamics of 
>> how to remove the top bolt.  Even with the engine jacked up a couple of 
>> inches there is still very little room to work.  I was able to get a wrench 
>> on the bolt working from below, but turning the wrench was the hard part.  
>> Even with a twelve point wrench the choices for positioning were limited.  
>> Once I got the wrench in place, I ended up using a series of 1/2 ratchet 
>> extensions to produce enough leverage to break the bolt loose.  Once that as 
>> done it was all down hill.
>> 
>> The driver's side is a whole 'nother issue, as it is very, very tight.  I 
>> can see there being a possibility that I might not be able to change it, or 
>> that I might have to do some reconnaissance and return to it at a later time 
>> with some different tools/wrenches.  There is a special wrench for the top 
>> bolt, but from the looks of things it's nothing more than a stubby 
>> combination wrench.  I may have to go over to Harbor Freight and buy a 
>> sacrificial wrench to make one of my own
>> 
>> Just in case you might be wondering, here's what a good motor mount looks 
>> like compared to one that is not good:
>> 
>> (Pardon the lousy phone camera photos)
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/aawrhsfah2yawcc/4XzX7hMNSX
>> 
>> Hmmm.  I *think* it was about time to replace the mounts..
>> 
>> And now for the fun and games.  Back to the creeper and time to attack the 
>> driver's side.  Wish me luck, I'm going to need it.
>> 
>> Dan
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> I also recall seeing instructions on how to make one but I assume you did not 
> do that.
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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Spring Break (so far - long)

[Dan Penoff]

Royal Purple makes Purple Ice. They are much the same as RedLine, a 
manufacturer of high end specialty fluids. You can find a lot of their stuff at 
FLAPS.

I understand the slightly lowered boiling point, but heat transfer is slightly 
better with water and an additive than with higher concentrations of coolant.  
And yes, I don't plan on being in freezing temperatures, so the concentration 
shouldn't be an issue.

I'll drop you a private note about the parts. Thanks!

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 13, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Craig  wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:40:32 -0400 Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> First in went a bottle of Purple Ice, a wetting agent similar to
>> RedLine's Water Wetter.  I like the Purple Ice better, as I have found
>> Water Wetter to have a slight oily sheen in the cooling system.
> 
> Who makes the Purple Ice?
> 
> 
>> Next, I mix up a 40-60 mix of MB coolant and water.
> 
> Using a 40% mixture of antifreeze works well since you don't plan on
> going to the frozen north in winter, but also keep in mind that it has a
> lower boiling point than a 50% mixture as well.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[Gerry Archer]

Clay makes a good point.  The intervertebral discs are like little bags of 
semi-soft material that can flow.  A whiplash can cause damage to one or 
more cervical discs that cause no immediate symptoms and are not visible on 
xray, catscans, etc. Gradually or fairly quickly this soft material can 
protrude, the disc can partially collapse, and pressure on nerves or the 
spinal cord can be the result.  For that reason it's always good to claim 
pain from whiplash and to be evaluated by a physician if that's what the 
insurance company wants.  A medical exam can be a baseline if later problems 
arise.  There should be plenty of legal data/cases addressing this problem.

Gerry

From: "clay" 
You actually do have damage.  Neck and nerve that will manifest in a few 
months.  Best to get your butt to a doctor and a full work up.  Not a 
joke.  If it struck hard enough to mess up the back end of the car, it 
also imparted energy sufficient to bugger up the spine and neck muscles if 
not nerves.


clay


On Mar 13, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Donald Snook wrote:

Gerry wrote:  "Being a tort lawyer, Donald must certainly have claimed 
whiplash since that's the only way anyone can get fair treatment from 
present day insurors.
He will soon have enough enough pain and suffering money to buy any car 
he wants.  Never mind the Italian hotrods of the day; he can buy the true
pinnacle of automotive grandeur; a Rolls Royce; and his search for 
automotive perfection will be over."


HA!  I wish that were true.   Fortunately, I was not hurt.  My neck was a 
little sore for a couple of days, but I took some ibuprofen and its fine. 
It will be one week tomorrow, and I am fine.  Plus, in Kansas, there is a 
threshold for medical bills before you can even make a claim for pain and 
suffering.  I'll just have to make the millions on some other suit.  :)


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[Gerry Archer]

He couldn't get away with that in Kansas; he'd have to move to Tampa: [:o)

http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2013/jan/25/25/schnitt-attorneys-dui-arrest-set-up-by-bubba-attor-ar-616318/?referer=http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=stephen%20diaco%20dui&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftbo.com%2Far%2F616318%2F&ei=t8VAUfX7D4Oc9QSG3IHACg&usg=AFQjCNHwzxqOUxkXqh8CX9jOyRdaGZOnog&bvm=bv.43287494,d.eWU&shorturl=http://tbo.ly/W4s7xd

http://tbtpics.tampabay.com/news/courts/tampa-lawyer-stephen-diaco-at-center-of-controversy/1275688

Gerrywho hopes Donalds sense of humor wasn't damaged in the accident.

..

From: "Rich Thomas" 

He wanted a new car, mama said no, so he paid someone to rear-end him, got
the payout for a total wreck, shared it, a bit of a sore neck, but now
another car!
Your honor, I believe this to be a plausible explanation of the events as
presented to us.  I rest my case.
--R

On 3/13/13 9:43 AM, Donald Snook wrote:

Gerry wrote:  "Being a tort lawyer, Donald must certainly have claimed
whiplash since that's the only way anyone can get fair treatment from
present day insurors.
He will soon have enough enough pain and suffering money to buy any car
he wants.  Never mind the Italian hotrods of the day; he can buy the true
pinnacle of automotive grandeur; a Rolls Royce; and his search for
automotive perfection will be over."

HA!  I wish that were true.   Fortunately, I was not hurt.  My neck was a
little sore for a couple of days, but I took some ibuprofen and its fine.
It will be one week tomorrow, and I am fine.  Plus, in Kansas, there is a
threshold for medical bills before you can even make a claim for pain and
suffering.  I'll just have to make the millions on some other suit.  :)

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[clay]

You actually do have damage.  Neck and nerve that will manifest in a few 
months.  Best to get your butt to a doctor and a full work up.  Not a joke.  If 
it struck hard enough to mess up the back end of the car, it also imparted 
energy sufficient to bugger up the spine and neck muscles if not nerves.

clay


On Mar 13, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Donald Snook wrote:

> Gerry wrote:  "Being a tort lawyer, Donald must certainly have claimed 
> whiplash since that's the only way anyone can get fair treatment from present 
> day insurors.
> He will soon have enough enough pain and suffering money to buy any car he 
> wants.  Never mind the Italian hotrods of the day; he can buy the true
> pinnacle of automotive grandeur; a Rolls Royce; and his search for  
> automotive perfection will be over."
> 
> HA!  I wish that were true.   Fortunately, I was not hurt.  My neck was a 
> little sore for a couple of days, but I took some ibuprofen and its fine.  It 
> will be one week tomorrow, and I am fine.  Plus, in Kansas, there is a 
> threshold for medical bills before you can even make a claim for pain and 
> suffering.  I'll just have to make the millions on some other suit.  :)
> 
> Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[Gerry Archer]

If you've been following him you know that he's just a poor young lawyer who 
is probably still paying off his college loans.  Besides that, he's a sharp 
trader who manages, of necessity, to get good deals.  When we finally see 
his name on his law firms mast head, then we'll know he can buy any car he 
wants.  (If this isn't an eclectic bunch of people I don't know what is.) 
[:o)

Gerry

From: "WILTON" 
As if he can't already buy any car he wants?  ;<)  Isn't that what he's 
been doing?  ;<)

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again


Being a tort lawyer, Donald must certainly have claimed whiplash since 
that's the only way anyone can get fair treatment from present day 
insurors. He will soon have enough enough pain and suffering money to buy 
any car he wants.  Never mind the Italian hotrods of the day; he can buy 
the true pinnacle of automotive grandeur; a Rolls Royce; and his search 
for automotive perfection will be over.

Gerry

.



http://murphyauction.com/Auction/Details/426

Real catalogue is coming out Wed.  I am going to the preview and can 
scout out any car you find of interest


clay


On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Donald Snook wrote:


Yep, the Snook car saga begins again.

Before you groan because I am trading cars again, this time its not my 
fault.  I was in a car wreck.  Its pretty funny that a personal injury 
trial lawyer gets rear-ended.  But, the 2003 Lexus that belonged to my 
Stepmother is much worse for wear.  It really got smacked.  The 
insurance company is considering totaling it.  If they do not total it, 
I do not want the car because it has frame damage.  The car really took 
a hit.


At any rate, my indy has a car that I am considering, but I want to 
make sure I am not acting crazy.  I don't think I got a head injury in 
the crash . . . Just Kidding.


It is a 2004 Jaquar XJR.  I know, when I heard Jaguar I thought that is 
CRAZY.  But, I can get a great deal on this car.  I mean a real 
bargain. My indy wants to buy the lexus (in its present smashed 
condition) and then I pay him a little bit more for the jag.  I get to 
keep the insurance check.  In fact, I would basically be getting the 
Jag for free.
My indy bought it from the local Jaguar dealer when they wholesaled it. 
It has 110,000 miles and is in AMAZING shape.  Apparently, the biggest 
problems with these cars is the air ride suspension.  The previous 
owner had several problems and finally just had the local Jag dealer 
replace everything with regular (i.e. non Jag air ride) components at a 
cost of $6,000.  They gave him a lifetime warranty on the repairs. 
Other than that, I have not found anything awful about these cars.  The 
R indicates it has the 4.2L supercharged V8 and this thing is SCREAMING 
FAST.  Not that I need that.  It is also a beautiful car.   Am I being 
crazy to consider this car?  I think Jaguar has improved dramatically 
since Ford bought them.


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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[Rich Thomas]

He wanted a new car, mama said no, so he paid someone to rear-end him, 
got the payout for a total wreck, shared it, a bit of a sore neck, but 
now another car!


Your honor, I believe this to be a plausible explanation of the events 
as presented to us.  I rest my case.


--R

On 3/13/13 9:43 AM, Donald Snook wrote:

Gerry wrote:  "Being a tort lawyer, Donald must certainly have claimed whiplash 
since that's the only way anyone can get fair treatment from present day insurors.
He will soon have enough enough pain and suffering money to buy any car he 
wants.  Never mind the Italian hotrods of the day; he can buy the true
pinnacle of automotive grandeur; a Rolls Royce; and his search for  automotive 
perfection will be over."

HA!  I wish that were true.   Fortunately, I was not hurt.  My neck was a 
little sore for a couple of days, but I took some ibuprofen and its fine.  It 
will be one week tomorrow, and I am fine.  Plus, in Kansas, there is a 
threshold for medical bills before you can even make a claim for pain and 
suffering.  I'll just have to make the millions on some other suit.  :)

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[WILTON]

Just its.  ;<)' would be used between t and s if one were meaning it is. 
To show possession, it's just its.  ;<)


Wilton

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On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:44 AM, "Donald Snook"  wrote:


 Fortunately, I was not hurt.



That's good. The Lexus did what it was supposed to do and sacrificed 
itself for its' (correct grammar?) owner.


Rick
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[MBZ] OT - how fast children grow up

[Randy Bennell]

Just commenting on some issues raised in other threads -

I have been copying old home movies made with a video camera and copied 
onto VHS tapes, onto DVD's in an effort to save them for the future.
I have been working on tapes made starting in 1992 and am up to 
Christmas 1995.
My boys were born in 1984 and 1988 so I started out 20 years back when 
Tom was not quite 4 and Geoff was not yet 8. There are major changes in 
the time from 1992 to 1995. It is truly amazing to watch them change in 
a matter of minutes. We fail to note a lot of the changes on a day to 
day basis but watching the old tapes brings it all home. The younger one 
especially changed a lot in the 3 years or so between ages 3 and 7. The 
elder one, not quite so much but he was always quieter anyway.
The video quality is not so great but it is still nice to have these 
memories preserved.
Unfortunately, I am convinced that there was an earlier tape but have 
not been able to find it. I don't recall exactly when we got the first 
video camera but I specifically recall one incident with my younger son 
and am sure it was on tape as both my wife and I recall it and I am sure 
I remember watching it on the tape.
If I never find it, it will not matter but it annoys me that I think it 
should exist but cannot find it.
We have had 3 video cameras now - all Canon. The new one is so much 
better that it is hard to believe how technology has changed in 20 years.
Unfortunately, we also did not use the cameras often enough. I tend to 
have tape of Christmas and birthdays, and maybe Halloween but not much 
else. Too bad in one way but I guess I should not complain at not having 
spent more of my life looking through the viewfinder at what my children 
were doing.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Spring Break (so far - long)

[Max Dillon]

Great question, will that modification work on my 124 cars?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Craig  wrote:


>> While I am in the neighborhood, I take the time to disassemble the
>> connections to the coolant temperature sender that controls the
>> auxiliary fans.  By adding a 1.1K ohm resistor across the sender, the
>> auxiliary fans will now come on around 92C instead of the 100C
>starting
>> point.  The 1.1K ohm resistor gets soldered into the sockets with the
>> wires and the connector reassembled.  Voila!
>
>Good fix. I wonder if it applies to other cars as well.
>
>
>Craig




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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[WILTON]

I'm always amazed and highly pleased to see babies, toddlers, etc., learn so 
fast.


They grow up VERY fast, too.  One of "mine," #1 grandson, is graduating 
summa cum laude from UNC-CH in just 2 months.  'Hard to believe how fast 
time goes.


Congratulations, again.

Wilton

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Max wrote:  "Since you won't own it for longer than twelve months, go for 
it.  What can go wrong in twelve months?  What is book value going to be 
in twelve months?

More important, how's family?  Little one an amazing bundle of joy?"

You are probably right.  In fact, that was my thinking too.  The book 
value is going to be significantly higher than what I have invested in the 
car. It makes economic sense.


The family is great.  My son, Henry, will be 2 years in exactly two weeks. 
He is a blast.  He is learning everyday and it is so fun to watch him 
learn new things.  He really tests things.  I can tell he is going to be a 
good problem solver.   He is also going to be handful.  He has beautiful 
blue eyes that are very bright and clear.  He is also already learning how 
to charm and flash a smile when he wants to.  He is going to be trouble 
later. :)



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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[WILTON]

As if he can't already buy any car he wants?  ;<)  Isn't that what he's been 
doing?  ;<)


Wilton

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Being a tort lawyer, Donald must certainly have claimed whiplash since 
that's the only way anyone can get fair treatment from present day 
insurors. He will soon have enough enough pain and suffering money to buy 
any car he wants.  Never mind the Italian hotrods of the day; he can buy 
the true pinnacle of automotive grandeur; a Rolls Royce; and his search 
for automotive perfection will be over.

Gerry

.



http://murphyauction.com/Auction/Details/426

Real catalogue is coming out Wed.  I am going to the preview and can 
scout out any car you find of interest


clay


On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Donald Snook wrote:


Yep, the Snook car saga begins again.

Before you groan because I am trading cars again, this time its not my 
fault.  I was in a car wreck.  Its pretty funny that a personal injury 
trial lawyer gets rear-ended.  But, the 2003 Lexus that belonged to my 
Stepmother is much worse for wear.  It really got smacked.  The 
insurance company is considering totaling it.  If they do not total it, 
I do not want the car because it has frame damage.  The car really took 
a hit.


At any rate, my indy has a car that I am considering, but I want to make 
sure I am not acting crazy.  I don't think I got a head injury in the 
crash . . . Just Kidding.


It is a 2004 Jaquar XJR.  I know, when I heard Jaguar I thought that is 
CRAZY.  But, I can get a great deal on this car.  I mean a real bargain. 
My indy wants to buy the lexus (in its present smashed condition) and 
then I pay him a little bit more for the jag.  I get to keep the 
insurance check.  In fact, I would basically be getting the Jag for 
free.
My indy bought it from the local Jaguar dealer when they wholesaled it. 
It has 110,000 miles and is in AMAZING shape.  Apparently, the biggest 
problems with these cars is the air ride suspension.  The previous owner 
had several problems and finally just had the local Jag dealer replace 
everything with regular (i.e. non Jag air ride) components at a cost of 
$6,000.  They gave him a lifetime warranty on the repairs.  Other than 
that, I have not found anything awful about these cars.  The R indicates 
it has the 4.2L supercharged V8 and this thing is SCREAMING FAST.  Not 
that I need that.  It is also a beautiful car.   Am I being crazy to 
consider this car?  I think Jaguar has improved dramatically since Ford 
bought them.


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Re: [MBZ] How I Spent My Spring Break - (part trios)

[Randy Bennell]

On 13/03/2013 11:03 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Ran some errands this morning and then got the car on the ramps.

Set up the ozone generator inside the car and turned it on. B

Got under the car and prepared to replace the engine mounts.  Oh, boy! The 
passenger side mount is out and ready to be replaced.  Took me a little under 
an hour, with a good part of that trying to work out the dynamics of how to 
remove the top bolt.  Even with the engine jacked up a couple of inches there 
is still very little room to work.  I was able to get a wrench on the bolt 
working from below, but turning the wrench was the hard part.  Even with a 
twelve point wrench the choices for positioning were limited.  Once I got the 
wrench in place, I ended up using a series of 1/2 ratchet extensions to produce 
enough leverage to break the bolt loose.  Once that as done it was all down 
hill.

The driver's side is a whole 'nother issue, as it is very, very tight.  I can 
see there being a possibility that I might not be able to change it, or that I 
might have to do some reconnaissance and return to it at a later time with some 
different tools/wrenches.  There is a special wrench for the top bolt, but from 
the looks of things it's nothing more than a stubby combination wrench.  I may 
have to go over to Harbor Freight and buy a sacrificial wrench to make one of 
my own

Just in case you might be wondering, here's what a good motor mount looks like 
compared to one that is not good:

(Pardon the lousy phone camera photos)

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/aawrhsfah2yawcc/4XzX7hMNSX

Hmmm.  I *think* it was about time to replace the mounts..

And now for the fun and games.  Back to the creeper and time to attack the 
driver's side.  Wish me luck, I'm going to need it.

Dan
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Tell us more about the ozone generator. Did you rent one or buy one, and 
if the latter, which one and from where?
I also recall seeing instructions on how to make one but I assume you 
did not do that.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Spring Break (so far - part deux)

[Dan Penoff]

Shoehorned is not a good term

However, that being said, I can't even begin to imagine what these things are 
like with a V12 in them.  There could hardly be room to slip a sheet of paper 
in on either side.

Dan


On Mar 13, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

> On Mar 13, 2013 8:08 AM, "Craig"  wrote:
>> 
>> The M119 is
>> a really nice engine. It was frustrating
>> to work on with it shoehorned
>> into the W124 engine compartment.
> 
> Could be worse--I've seen pictures of an M119 in a W201.
> 
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[MBZ] How I Spent My Spring Break - (part trios)

[Dan Penoff]

Ran some errands this morning and then got the car on the ramps.

Set up the ozone generator inside the car and turned it on. B

Got under the car and prepared to replace the engine mounts.  Oh, boy! The 
passenger side mount is out and ready to be replaced.  Took me a little under 
an hour, with a good part of that trying to work out the dynamics of how to 
remove the top bolt.  Even with the engine jacked up a couple of inches there 
is still very little room to work.  I was able to get a wrench on the bolt 
working from below, but turning the wrench was the hard part.  Even with a 
twelve point wrench the choices for positioning were limited.  Once I got the 
wrench in place, I ended up using a series of 1/2 ratchet extensions to produce 
enough leverage to break the bolt loose.  Once that as done it was all down 
hill.

The driver's side is a whole 'nother issue, as it is very, very tight.  I can 
see there being a possibility that I might not be able to change it, or that I 
might have to do some reconnaissance and return to it at a later time with some 
different tools/wrenches.  There is a special wrench for the top bolt, but from 
the looks of things it's nothing more than a stubby combination wrench.  I may 
have to go over to Harbor Freight and buy a sacrificial wrench to make one of 
my own

Just in case you might be wondering, here's what a good motor mount looks like 
compared to one that is not good:

(Pardon the lousy phone camera photos)

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/aawrhsfah2yawcc/4XzX7hMNSX

Hmmm.  I *think* it was about time to replace the mounts..

And now for the fun and games.  Back to the creeper and time to attack the 
driver's side.  Wish me luck, I'm going to need it.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Spring Break (so far - part deux)

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Mar 13, 2013 8:08 AM, "Craig"  wrote:
>
> The M119 is
> a really nice engine. It was frustrating
> to work on with it shoehorned
> into the W124 engine compartment.

Could be worse--I've seen pictures of an M119 in a W201.

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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[Rick Knoble]

On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:44 AM, "Donald Snook"  wrote:

>  Fortunately, I was not hurt.


That's good. The Lexus did what it was supposed to do and sacrificed itself for 
its' (correct grammar?) owner. 

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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Spring Break (so far - long)

[Craig]

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:40:32 -0400 Dan Penoff  wrote:

> First in went a bottle of Purple Ice, a wetting agent similar to
> RedLine's Water Wetter.  I like the Purple Ice better, as I have found
> Water Wetter to have a slight oily sheen in the cooling system.

Who makes the Purple Ice?


> Next, I mix up a 40-60 mix of MB coolant and water.

Using a 40% mixture of antifreeze works well since you don't plan on
going to the frozen north in winter, but also keep in mind that it has a
lower boiling point than a 50% mixture as well.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Spring Break (so far - part deux)

[Craig]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:49:25 -0400 Dan Penoff  wrote:

> I want to check the distributor caps and rotors, but I'm afraid if I do
> I'll find they might be close to replacement.  That's a pricey fix for
> this car, and certainly a place where you don't want to cut corners
> price-wise.  Maybe I'll give the new "Q" a shot at the parts

I have one new, unused cap and one cap that's been used only a short
while (the left cap was in the list of things to disassemble when I
changed the power steering pump). I also have rotors in similar
condition. I won't be able to get to them for at least two weeks, however,
since we are in Phoenix for my surgery tomorrow.

If you need any specialized M119 parts, you might drop me a line, since
I'm planning on parting out our '94 E420. That's assuming the parts used
haven't changed between '94 and whenever your S500 was built. The M119 is
a really nice engine. It was frustrating to work on with it shoehorned
into the W124 engine compartment.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Spring Break (so far - long)

[Craig]

On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:40:32 -0400 Dan Penoff  wrote:

> The worst was yet to come I had to get the short hose back in
> place, and this took a good 20 minutes of wrestling with it to get it
> over both hose fittings.  Once I had finally gotten it on, I installed
> the clamps and tightened them.

When I read this, I didn't know which engine you have. Looking at Part
Deux, however, I see that it is an M119. I've done the very job you
describe. THAT deserves an ATTABOY, for sure!

I hope you have more room around the engine with it in a 140 than it has
in a 124.


> While I am in the neighborhood, I take the time to disassemble the
> connections to the coolant temperature sender that controls the
> auxiliary fans.  By adding a 1.1K ohm resistor across the sender, the
> auxiliary fans will now come on around 92C instead of the 100C starting
> point.  The 1.1K ohm resistor gets soldered into the sockets with the
> wires and the connector reassembled.  Voila!

Good fix. I wonder if it applies to other cars as well.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[Donald Snook]

Gerry wrote:  "Being a tort lawyer, Donald must certainly have claimed whiplash 
since that's the only way anyone can get fair treatment from present day 
insurors.
He will soon have enough enough pain and suffering money to buy any car he 
wants.  Never mind the Italian hotrods of the day; he can buy the true
pinnacle of automotive grandeur; a Rolls Royce; and his search for  automotive 
perfection will be over."

HA!  I wish that were true.   Fortunately, I was not hurt.  My neck was a 
little sore for a couple of days, but I took some ibuprofen and its fine.  It 
will be one week tomorrow, and I am fine.  Plus, in Kansas, there is a 
threshold for medical bills before you can even make a claim for pain and 
suffering.  I'll just have to make the millions on some other suit.  :)

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[Donald Snook]

Mitch wrote:  "Free or trading a low mileage Lexus for it?"

Well, the insurance check that I am getting is more than I paid for the car.  
So, sort of like free.  I do know that the Lexus has value and I am trading it 
in, but the insurance proceeds pays me more than I invested in the car 
originally.

Mitch also asked, "Lifetime to him or lifetime to the car?"

Good question.  If I have a problem, I will definitely argue that it meant 
lifetime to the car.


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[Donald Snook]

Max wrote:  "Since you won't own it for longer than twelve months, go for it.  
What can go wrong in twelve months?  What is book value going to be in twelve 
months?
More important, how's family?  Little one an amazing bundle of joy?"

You are probably right.  In fact, that was my thinking too.  The book value is 
going to be significantly higher than what I have invested in the car. It makes 
economic sense.

The family is great.  My son, Henry, will be 2 years in exactly two weeks.  He 
is a blast.  He is learning everyday and it is so fun to watch him learn new 
things.  He really tests things.  I can tell he is going to be a good problem 
solver.   He is also going to be handful.  He has beautiful blue eyes that are 
very bright and clear.  He is also already learning how to charm and flash a 
smile when he wants to.  He is going to be trouble later. :)


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[Donald Snook]

Dan P. wrote:  "Post British Leyland Jags are supposed to be pretty decent 
cars.  My brother had an XJ something that was built after Ford took them over 
and he had nary an issue with it during his ownership. How is the BMW doing?"

I had the same thing that Ford improved the cars pretty dramatically.  The BMW 
is doing great for its new owner.  My firm's office manager bought it and she 
and her husband love it.  They don't drive it everyday.  Its more of a fun car. 
 But, in the last month we have gotten two whoppers of snow storms, so I am 
guessing it hasn't been driven much.   I miss it.


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car with steel springs

[Hendrik and fay]

Speaking of 'conversions' there is a 109 3.5 for sale up here, owner 
wants 15k, mob at Ozbenz are all like, "ooh that is nice' and "great 
colour combo" blah blah blah, turns out the 109 has been turned into a 
108 and is now worth bugger all.


Hendrik
who saw a nice 109 6.3 the other day

On 13/03/13 14:00, Mitch Haley wrote:

Donald Snook wrote:


  In fact, I would basically be getting the Jag for free.


Free or trading a low mileage Lexus for it?


The previous owner had several problems and finally just had the 
local Jag dealer replace everything with regular (i.e. non Jag air 
ride) components at a cost of $6,000.  They gave him a lifetime 
warranty on the repairs. 


Lifetime to him or lifetime to the car?


Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> I've driven one Lincoln and one 450SEL 6.9 that had been converted to
> ordinary suspension and both drove all screwy, like the alignment 
was way
> off.  Could have just been those two examples that were done wrong, 
but it

> was quite scary.

Could it be you've discovered the reason why somebody would spend 
$6,000 customizing a car and then trade it in for less than $6,000?


Mitch.






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Re: [MBZ] Snook Car Saga begins again

[Gerry Archer]

Being a tort lawyer, Donald must certainly have claimed whiplash since 
that's the only way anyone can get fair treatment from present day insurors. 
He will soon have enough enough pain and suffering money to buy any car he 
wants.  Never mind the Italian hotrods of the day; he can buy the true 
pinnacle of automotive grandeur; a Rolls Royce; and his search for 
automotive perfection will be over.

Gerry

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http://murphyauction.com/Auction/Details/426

Real catalogue is coming out Wed.  I am going to the preview and can scout 
out any car you find of interest


clay


On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Donald Snook wrote:


Yep, the Snook car saga begins again.

Before you groan because I am trading cars again, this time its not my 
fault.  I was in a car wreck.  Its pretty funny that a personal injury 
trial lawyer gets rear-ended.  But, the 2003 Lexus that belonged to my 
Stepmother is much worse for wear.  It really got smacked.  The insurance 
company is considering totaling it.  If they do not total it, I do not 
want the car because it has frame damage.  The car really took a hit.


At any rate, my indy has a car that I am considering, but I want to make 
sure I am not acting crazy.  I don't think I got a head injury in the 
crash . . . Just Kidding.


It is a 2004 Jaquar XJR.  I know, when I heard Jaguar I thought that is 
CRAZY.  But, I can get a great deal on this car.  I mean a real bargain. 
My indy wants to buy the lexus (in its present smashed condition) and 
then I pay him a little bit more for the jag.  I get to keep the 
insurance check.  In fact, I would basically be getting the Jag for free.
My indy bought it from the local Jaguar dealer when they wholesaled it. 
It has 110,000 miles and is in AMAZING shape.  Apparently, the biggest 
problems with these cars is the air ride suspension.  The previous owner 
had several problems and finally just had the local Jag dealer replace 
everything with regular (i.e. non Jag air ride) components at a cost of 
$6,000.  They gave him a lifetime warranty on the repairs.  Other than 
that, I have not found anything awful about these cars.  The R indicates 
it has the 4.2L supercharged V8 and this thing is SCREAMING FAST.  Not 
that I need that.  It is also a beautiful car.   Am I being crazy to 
consider this car?  I think Jaguar has improved dramatically since Ford 
bought them.


Donald H. Snook
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