Re: [MBZ] Flying
There are supposed to be flying jobs in Florida that are plenty cool. Kaleb would fly from from an unmarked strip in Florida to Colombia and back with fuel stops along the way. All he needs to do is learn how to take off and land a small plane and then sign up after a test flight. He'll ride right seat for a while where he'll learn the finer points of flying, and he'll soon be flying solo. The pay is exceptionally good. If he gets caught, the Florida jails are not bad at all and the judges usually go easy on ordinary pilots. If he makes the right connections in Colombia, he can move down there after he serves his sentence and fly for local feeder airlines in mountainous areas. How can flying get any cooler than that? Gerry On 2/27/2014 6:02 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: I think, most pilots are glorified bus drivers. With all the modern stuff, it is not as interesting as the old days. Get on, kick in the auto pilot and try to stay awake and ready if an emergency arises. Train, train, train for a situation that you truly hope never arises and then if it does, pray that you immediately understand what is happening, that you do the right thing and that you have some luck on your side. The more exciting stuff is also the dangerous stuff. Crop dusters etc. You might want to get into flying at the bottom with an ultralight. Cheaper to buy and to fly than most anything else. Fly low and slow and enjoy the scenery. Randy who would like to fly but is too old and poor and smart to start now, etc. On 27/02/2014 11:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Been thinking lately about a career change to flying for a living. I think however I would be on the verge I being too old, if not already. We got any pro pilots on here? As an alternative, maybe I should finish my private license and just have a hobby like ok don. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pistol Caliber, was Crockett, Tubbs
If you had a flu shot last fall, and you don't have pig flu, you can have flu that lasts much less than a week or ten days. Gerry On 2/27/2014 10:06 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i'm pretty strong tonight, like 85% it was bad though. muscle pain. extreme weakness. kidney pain. i even want swimming out in the rain earlier tonight and was able to go well enough for about 40 minutes could there be a 3 day flu? the one time i had the flu, it was 2 weeks On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 5:35 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Lots of pig flu in your part of the country; nasty bug. Give it a week or ten days before you try to do much of anything. A pig flu relapse can put you in the hospital. Gerry On 2/27/2014 4:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: yes, something is amiss but it's getting much better. my kid gave me some kind of thing and since sunday afternoon i've been as weak as weak can get. i've spent most of the last 3 days just sitting in my chair sleeping. i'm hoping to get out to see if i can maybe walk 1/4 or 1/2 mile a little later to see if i can get some minimal strength back into my legs and, if you will, get the juices flowing On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: It's not a matter of how things look to me, it's a matter of concern since it appears something is amiss. Get well, and do so quickly if possible. We need your erudite commentary here. Dan On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'm sick, dan. unwell. it makes life's simple task far more difficult. hopefully i will be well against shortly and things will look better to you On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Gary, you're beginning to scare me. Your messages are starting to look like Richarde's. Are uoy hanivg prolbems wtih yuor kebyroad? Dan On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it's like hinckley. guy goes out to kill teh prez with a saturday night special .22 obviously insane in terms of high powered rifles, call me cheap and obsolete, but i'd shoot someone in the middle of their head with 8mm mauser. it wouldnt' boucne off On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:59 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: On 2/27/2014 12:26 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 27/02/2014 10:59 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Usually, but not always. A deputy went to serve a warrant out in the country. When he was halfway between his patrol car and the house, the farmer stepped out the door and shot him precisely between the eyes with a rifle, then shot the deputies partners gun out of his hand. The deputies partner picked up the gun with his other hand and shot the farmer dead . The deputy got up and walked to his partners car and was taken to the hospital. At the hospital they found that the bullet had gone through the nasal septum and lodged in the spinal column a few centimeters from the spinal cord; damaging no other structures. The deputy was discharged a few weeks later after receiving psychotherapy. The bullet was impossible to remove, and during the few years before he moved and went to work for the FDLE, (Floridas FBI), the bullet had caused no trouble. Usually, if someone is shot between the eyes they die, but not in all cases. Gerry What sort of rifle? A .22 short? Or did the deputy have an unusually thick skull? One would think that most bullets would have come on out the back side of his head. Randy This happened many years ago and the only reason I remember this much is because the deputy was a former neighbor and my wife, an RN, took care of the deputy in the hospital. As you suggest, the bullet may have been small caliber without much penetrating power. On the other hand, healthy bone; especially vertebrae; is very hard to penetrate if a bullet squarely hits the solid part of the vertebrae. Note: The bullet traveled below the skull and hit a vertebra. It didn't enter the head. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list
Re: [MBZ] Pistol Caliber, was Crockett, Tubbs
Exactly. Like the deputy had his head tilted down when he was shot. I worked at a big city public hospital during the 1950s when the cheap .22 short Saturday Night Special revolvers came on the scene. We had all sorts of weird gunshot wounds come in the ER back then. Gerry On 2/27/2014 10:15 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Sounds like he was shot just below the eyes at a downward angle, demonstrating the difference between a head shot and a brain shot. I also wonder if it was a .22LR with a solid bullet. I head shot a groundhog once with a .22 hollow point, and it took quite a while to die, like 30 seconds or more. That was when I realized that the center of the head is the sinus cavity, not the brain. Aim between the ear and the eye and it's a certain bang-flop without all the kicking and thrashing around. Back in the 1970s, a cop, probably Lansing Township, got shot right in the forehead as he walked into a robbery in progress at the Michigan National bank branch in the Frandor Shopping Center. That should have been a brain shot. The bullet expanded, flattened right out actually, but failed to penetrate bone. The weapon was a cheap pocket pistol in .25ACP. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pistol Caliber, was Crockett, Tubbs
no flu shots for me, gerry On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 6:05 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: If you had a flu shot last fall, and you don't have pig flu, you can have flu that lasts much less than a week or ten days. Gerry On 2/27/2014 10:06 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i'm pretty strong tonight, like 85% it was bad though. muscle pain. extreme weakness. kidney pain. i even want swimming out in the rain earlier tonight and was able to go well enough for about 40 minutes could there be a 3 day flu? the one time i had the flu, it was 2 weeks On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 5:35 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Lots of pig flu in your part of the country; nasty bug. Give it a week or ten days before you try to do much of anything. A pig flu relapse can put you in the hospital. Gerry On 2/27/2014 4:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: yes, something is amiss but it's getting much better. my kid gave me some kind of thing and since sunday afternoon i've been as weak as weak can get. i've spent most of the last 3 days just sitting in my chair sleeping. i'm hoping to get out to see if i can maybe walk 1/4 or 1/2 mile a little later to see if i can get some minimal strength back into my legs and, if you will, get the juices flowing On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: It's not a matter of how things look to me, it's a matter of concern since it appears something is amiss. Get well, and do so quickly if possible. We need your erudite commentary here. Dan On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'm sick, dan. unwell. it makes life's simple task far more difficult. hopefully i will be well against shortly and things will look better to you On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Gary, you're beginning to scare me. Your messages are starting to look like Richarde's. Are uoy hanivg prolbems wtih yuor kebyroad? Dan On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it's like hinckley. guy goes out to kill teh prez with a saturday night special .22 obviously insane in terms of high powered rifles, call me cheap and obsolete, but i'd shoot someone in the middle of their head with 8mm mauser. it wouldnt' boucne off On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:59 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: On 2/27/2014 12:26 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 27/02/2014 10:59 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Usually, but not always. A deputy went to serve a warrant out in the country. When he was halfway between his patrol car and the house, the farmer stepped out the door and shot him precisely between the eyes with a rifle, then shot the deputies partners gun out of his hand. The deputies partner picked up the gun with his other hand and shot the farmer dead . The deputy got up and walked to his partners car and was taken to the hospital. At the hospital they found that the bullet had gone through the nasal septum and lodged in the spinal column a few centimeters from the spinal cord; damaging no other structures. The deputy was discharged a few weeks later after receiving psychotherapy. The bullet was impossible to remove, and during the few years before he moved and went to work for the FDLE, (Floridas FBI), the bullet had caused no trouble. Usually, if someone is shot between the eyes they die, but not in all cases. Gerry What sort of rifle? A .22 short? Or did the deputy have an unusually thick skull? One would think that most bullets would have come on out the back side of his head. Randy This happened many years ago and the only reason I remember this much is because the deputy was a former neighbor and my wife, an RN, took care of the deputy in the hospital. As you suggest, the bullet may have been small caliber without much penetrating power. On the other hand, healthy bone; especially vertebrae; is very hard to penetrate if a bullet squarely hits the solid part of the vertebrae. Note: The bullet traveled below the skull and hit a vertebra. It didn't enter the head. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL
Hi and thanks for the replies. I checked out the alarm boxes under the passenger side and there are 3 boxes there. One is a Becker's, and 2 Bosch. Which is for the alarm? There is a warning not to mess with the red plug as it is the airbag control and may cause harm! Thanks. Ralph, '87 300SDL On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: My central locking system blew a fuse and I have to manually open a door, with the key, and pull up the lock buttons to open them, and reverse, to lock the car. When I try to replace the fuse, the alarm sounds until I remove the fuse again. How can I replace the fuse without driving everybody nuts with the horn blowing? I tried even removing the actual horn fuse, but the alarm went off anyway. Ralph '87 300SDL ___ Put the fuse in and let er rip. (the alarm system) Lock the driver's door, then unlock the driver's door. that should shut off the alarm. If the alarm is still squawking after that, then you might want to pull the fuse, unplug the alarm brain (passenger side right side panel in front of the RF door) then put the fuse back in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pistol Caliber, was Crockett, Tubbs
Just remember that when you get old; (like over 60), they can keep you from getting pneumonia and save your life. Gerry On 2/28/2014 7:01 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: no flu shots for me, gerry On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 6:05 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: If you had a flu shot last fall, and you don't have pig flu, you can have flu that lasts much less than a week or ten days. Gerry On 2/27/2014 10:06 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i'm pretty strong tonight, like 85% it was bad though. muscle pain. extreme weakness. kidney pain. i even want swimming out in the rain earlier tonight and was able to go well enough for about 40 minutes could there be a 3 day flu? the one time i had the flu, it was 2 weeks On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 5:35 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Lots of pig flu in your part of the country; nasty bug. Give it a week or ten days before you try to do much of anything. A pig flu relapse can put you in the hospital. Gerry On 2/27/2014 4:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: yes, something is amiss but it's getting much better. my kid gave me some kind of thing and since sunday afternoon i've been as weak as weak can get. i've spent most of the last 3 days just sitting in my chair sleeping. i'm hoping to get out to see if i can maybe walk 1/4 or 1/2 mile a little later to see if i can get some minimal strength back into my legs and, if you will, get the juices flowing On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: It's not a matter of how things look to me, it's a matter of concern since it appears something is amiss. Get well, and do so quickly if possible. We need your erudite commentary here. Dan On Feb 27, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'm sick, dan. unwell. it makes life's simple task far more difficult. hopefully i will be well against shortly and things will look better to you On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Gary, you're beginning to scare me. Your messages are starting to look like Richarde's. Are uoy hanivg prolbems wtih yuor kebyroad? Dan On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it's like hinckley. guy goes out to kill teh prez with a saturday night special .22 obviously insane in terms of high powered rifles, call me cheap and obsolete, but i'd shoot someone in the middle of their head with 8mm mauser. it wouldnt' boucne off On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:59 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: On 2/27/2014 12:26 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 27/02/2014 10:59 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Usually, but not always. A deputy went to serve a warrant out in the country. When he was halfway between his patrol car and the house, the farmer stepped out the door and shot him precisely between the eyes with a rifle, then shot the deputies partners gun out of his hand. The deputies partner picked up the gun with his other hand and shot the farmer dead . The deputy got up and walked to his partners car and was taken to the hospital. At the hospital they found that the bullet had gone through the nasal septum and lodged in the spinal column a few centimeters from the spinal cord; damaging no other structures. The deputy was discharged a few weeks later after receiving psychotherapy. The bullet was impossible to remove, and during the few years before he moved and went to work for the FDLE, (Floridas FBI), the bullet had caused no trouble. Usually, if someone is shot between the eyes they die, but not in all cases. Gerry What sort of rifle? A .22 short? Or did the deputy have an unusually thick skull? One would think that most bullets would have come on out the back side of his head. Randy This happened many years ago and the only reason I remember this much is because the deputy was a former neighbor and my wife, an RN, took care of the deputy in the hospital. As you suggest, the bullet may have been small caliber without much penetrating power. On the other hand, healthy bone; especially vertebrae; is very hard to penetrate if a bullet squarely hits the solid part of the vertebrae. Note: The bullet traveled below the skull and hit a vertebra. It didn't enter the head. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or
Re: [MBZ] Flying
On 28/02/2014 9:32 AM, G Mann wrote: A word of caution regarding fractional ownership of an aircraft. Well, actually several words.. Pick your fellow owners more carefully than you pick a wife. They can ultimately do you great harm. True. Pick very good pilots and honest people too. If they are not good at flying the thing and don't tell you about the hard landings etc, then you may not know what condition the plane is in. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Hole for wood fired oven
I do need to re-read the book again as we're getting closer to building. I like scavenging and building with left-overs, but there is NO clay around here - strangest place I've seen! On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: If we are working form the same book he says not to use a refractable mix on the inside because it won't breathe and the leftover moisture inside will cause the inside layer to fail. He says to use clay throughout and it'll last longer... My friend used cement to mortar together the bricks for the base but some imported clay and onsite materials for everything else. The book I've got is very hippy centric for the whole thing... I rather like his ideal in that, I'll only be paying money for the mortar for the base and the firebrick, everything else I plan to scavenge. Oh, I'll probably pay for some tin for a roof too, I don't want the roof to be flammable... -Curt -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
And what does fuel run per hour? Randy On 27/02/2014 9:06 PM, OK Don wrote: Yup - plus the annual inspection ($500 - 1500) and repairs as needed, etc. It's not cheap - you have to REALLY want to fly. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: So you buy a plane and if you don't live on the airport like you, I guess you got to pay for a hangar or to park it at the airport. Seems to be getting more expensive by the minute. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pistol Caliber, was Crockett, Tubbs
I do believe I have been mis-quoted! Randy On 27/02/2014 9:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: Randy who actually believes what he reads in the US media. The prime beneficiaries of Florida's 'stand your ground' law (which had nothing to do with the George Zimmerman case) are blacks, who were being overprosecuted for self defense even more than whites where. Believe it or not, a black citizen in FL is more likely to be involved in a self defense shooting and invoke SYG than a white citizen is. Probably because the average black dude lives in a higher crime area than the average white dude. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Hole for wood fired oven, was transmission rebuilders
On 27/02/2014 10:45 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: That's the strange thing, a commercial pilot is supposed to be a highly trained individual with years of experience but gets paid peanuts but a commercial truck driver can barely read or write but gets paid more by the sounds of things. Hendrik who has a truck license and can read and writejust I had a client who said that being a long haul trucker was the only job he knew of where he could work 24 hours a day for about $1 per hour. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more Euro headlights
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-NEW-W114-W115-EURO-STYLE-HEADLIGHT-ASSEMBLIES-/151241353617?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item2336afe991vxp=mtr So, what do you think? They look better than a lot of the original ones that are getting pretty old. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
Minor corrections ( the rest is accurate) : There is a short list of maintenance items that the owner can perform and sign off in the log book that includes changing the oil. Then there is the owner assist maintenance and inspections where you do all the work under the supervision of an AP or IA and pay them for signing the books and paperwork. This is how I am able to have a plane . . . On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:32 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: A word of caution regarding fractional ownership of an aircraft. Well, actually several words.. Simple things, like even tune ups and oil changes, require log book entry for each act preformed on the airplane, signed off by a certified mechanic.. [who works for $$, has to charge incredible shop rates because his shop can only be located on an airport, etc etc.] -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
Your ticket is valid until you screw up and they take it away. Your medical has to be current and you need a flight review. I just started again after a 30+ year hiatus due to raising kids, etc. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I have over 400 hours of left seat time in that airframe. Dan who's ticket long expired. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
My Dad's first Beech was a fractional with two doctors. It was a nightmare. They would take it without scheduling, never clean it up when they were done, just a general disregard for the other owners as a whole. After we showed up at the hangar for a weekend trip to our place on Sanibel Island and the plane was nowhere to be found, he pulled the plug and bought his own plane. A nice Beech V35 with full IFR (Dad had an IFR ticket as well as a number of others, including instructor.) N899T, which lives on in Kansas these days, I believe. I have over 400 hours of left seat time in that airframe. Dan who's ticket long expired. Sent from my iPad On Feb 28, 2014, at 10:32 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: A word of caution regarding fractional ownership of an aircraft. Well, actually several words.. Pick your fellow owners more carefully than you pick a wife. They can ultimately do you great harm. Reduce every aspect of said ownership to written contract and add financial enforcements to each clause. Airplanes are an expensive mistress that makes designer shoes and handbags seem like a shopping trip to the local five and dime.. Unlike aforementioned mistress if they do not get what they demand, they do not preform after pouting for a while.. [ please don't as how I may know this]. Simple things, like even tune ups and oil changes, require log book entry for each act preformed on the airplane, signed off by a certified mechanic.. [who works for $$, has to charge incredible shop rates because his shop can only be located on an airport, etc etc.] The old wisdom that; If it floats, flys, or F---s , Rent it may indeed apply. Unless you just happen to be a trust fund baby and money is no object. The aviation world is well populated with people who work to fly, with every spare nickle going to follow their dream and desire. For some, it pays off. For many, it does not. However, even those who give up the near holy quest to fly feel the sacrifices paid were worth the experience.. Follow your dream, do what you love, and you will never work a day in your life. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:29 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, like your local anesthesiologist. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So you buy a plane and if you don't live on the airport like you, I guess you got to pay for a hangar or to park it at the airport. Seems to be getting more expensive by the minute. That's why it's so popular to own 1/3 to 1/5 of an airplane. The trick is to find co-owners who are too busy making money to actually be using the plane when you want to fly it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme
Speaking of flying…I’m sure this video will spark some comments. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj9_jt_5jHYfeature=youtu.be ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme
I think he was thinking more in terms of what such a scheme would do the hundreds of thousands of US citizens who are employed by the US air transportation industry. On Feb 28, 2014, at 10:20 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I couldn't understand the captain due to an echo, but I do remember reading about a Norwegian airline that plans to offer fares much cheaper than usual. His operation will be out of Ireland for some reason IIRC. The writer of the article was of the opinion that the Norwegian would fail since airline fares are already priced at minimums. I would assume that the captain is pointing out the damage such an airline would do to Deltas business? Gerry On 2/28/2014 9:44 AM, Jon Agne wrote: Speaking of flying…I’m sure this video will spark some comments. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj9_jt_5jHYfeature=youtu.be ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
if you were aware of how he picks wives, you'd know you needn't be concerned about him not making a greater effort whilst picking former airplane owners On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:32 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: A word of caution regarding fractional ownership of an aircraft. Well, actually several words.. Pick your fellow owners more carefully than you pick a wife. They can ultimately do you great harm. Reduce every aspect of said ownership to written contract and add financial enforcements to each clause. Airplanes are an expensive mistress that makes designer shoes and handbags seem like a shopping trip to the local five and dime.. Unlike aforementioned mistress if they do not get what they demand, they do not preform after pouting for a while.. [ please don't as how I may know this]. Simple things, like even tune ups and oil changes, require log book entry for each act preformed on the airplane, signed off by a certified mechanic.. [who works for $$, has to charge incredible shop rates because his shop can only be located on an airport, etc etc.] The old wisdom that; If it floats, flys, or F---s , Rent it may indeed apply. Unless you just happen to be a trust fund baby and money is no object. The aviation world is well populated with people who work to fly, with every spare nickle going to follow their dream and desire. For some, it pays off. For many, it does not. However, even those who give up the near holy quest to fly feel the sacrifices paid were worth the experience.. Follow your dream, do what you love, and you will never work a day in your life. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:29 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, like your local anesthesiologist. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So you buy a plane and if you don't live on the airport like you, I guess you got to pay for a hangar or to park it at the airport. Seems to be getting more expensive by the minute. That's why it's so popular to own 1/3 to 1/5 of an airplane. The trick is to find co-owners who are too busy making money to actually be using the plane when you want to fly it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
Mine burns auto gas at $3.50/gal at the rate of 10GPH, so $35/hr. or so for local flying. AV gas varies wildly from airport to airport, but averages around $6/gal, so $60/hr. cross country. Slower aircraft are usually more economical to fly as the increase in speed is not proportional to the increase in power (and fuel consumption). On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: And what does fuel run per hour? Randy -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
now that is a career path, senor striplin! On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:37 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: There are supposed to be flying jobs in Florida that are plenty cool. Kaleb would fly from from an unmarked strip in Florida to Colombia and back with fuel stops along the way. All he needs to do is learn how to take off and land a small plane and then sign up after a test flight. He'll ride right seat for a while where he'll learn the finer points of flying, and he'll soon be flying solo. The pay is exceptionally good. If he gets caught, the Florida jails are not bad at all and the judges usually go easy on ordinary pilots. If he makes the right connections in Colombia, he can move down there after he serves his sentence and fly for local feeder airlines in mountainous areas. How can flying get any cooler than that? Gerry On 2/27/2014 6:02 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: I think, most pilots are glorified bus drivers. With all the modern stuff, it is not as interesting as the old days. Get on, kick in the auto pilot and try to stay awake and ready if an emergency arises. Train, train, train for a situation that you truly hope never arises and then if it does, pray that you immediately understand what is happening, that you do the right thing and that you have some luck on your side. The more exciting stuff is also the dangerous stuff. Crop dusters etc. You might want to get into flying at the bottom with an ultralight. Cheaper to buy and to fly than most anything else. Fly low and slow and enjoy the scenery. Randy who would like to fly but is too old and poor and smart to start now, etc. On 27/02/2014 11:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Been thinking lately about a career change to flying for a living. I think however I would be on the verge I being too old, if not already. We got any pro pilots on here? As an alternative, maybe I should finish my private license and just have a hobby like ok don. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Hole for wood fired oven
If we are working form the same book he says not to use a refractable mix on the inside because it won't breathe and the leftover moisture inside will cause the inside layer to fail. He says to use clay throughout and it'll last longer... My friend used cement to mortar together the bricks for the base but some imported clay and onsite materials for everything else. The book I've got is very hippy centric for the whole thing... I rather like his ideal in that, I'll only be paying money for the mortar for the base and the firebrick, everything else I plan to scavenge. Oh, I'll probably pay for some tin for a roof too, I don't want the roof to be flammable... -Curt Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 19:57:48 -0600 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Hole for wood fired oven Message-ID: CANZcij_FQcp8X3MzOq5NV+6ES5RAUagYuewx=qkqr3bva0d...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yup - the same book. We have a company that sells the supplies for building boilers, industrial ovens, etc. that had firebrick - have that in hand now - and refractable mix that we'll use for the inside layer. Then I need clay of some sort for the rest of the dome - probably look for the least expensive potters clay. We have a home sized concrete mixer that came with the property that we'll use for the concrete - just on principle. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme
I couldn't understand the captain due to an echo, but I do remember reading about a Norwegian airline that plans to offer fares much cheaper than usual. His operation will be out of Ireland for some reason IIRC. The writer of the article was of the opinion that the Norwegian would fail since airline fares are already priced at minimums. I would assume that the captain is pointing out the damage such an airline would do to Deltas business? Gerry On 2/28/2014 9:44 AM, Jon Agne wrote: Speaking of flying…I’m sure this video will spark some comments. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj9_jt_5jHYfeature=youtu.be ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
A word of caution regarding fractional ownership of an aircraft. Well, actually several words.. Pick your fellow owners more carefully than you pick a wife. They can ultimately do you great harm. Reduce every aspect of said ownership to written contract and add financial enforcements to each clause. Airplanes are an expensive mistress that makes designer shoes and handbags seem like a shopping trip to the local five and dime.. Unlike aforementioned mistress if they do not get what they demand, they do not preform after pouting for a while.. [ please don't as how I may know this]. Simple things, like even tune ups and oil changes, require log book entry for each act preformed on the airplane, signed off by a certified mechanic.. [who works for $$, has to charge incredible shop rates because his shop can only be located on an airport, etc etc.] The old wisdom that; If it floats, flys, or F---s , Rent it may indeed apply. Unless you just happen to be a trust fund baby and money is no object. The aviation world is well populated with people who work to fly, with every spare nickle going to follow their dream and desire. For some, it pays off. For many, it does not. However, even those who give up the near holy quest to fly feel the sacrifices paid were worth the experience.. Follow your dream, do what you love, and you will never work a day in your life. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:29 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, like your local anesthesiologist. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So you buy a plane and if you don't live on the airport like you, I guess you got to pay for a hangar or to park it at the airport. Seems to be getting more expensive by the minute. That's why it's so popular to own 1/3 to 1/5 of an airplane. The trick is to find co-owners who are too busy making money to actually be using the plane when you want to fly it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
Sounds about like running a boat. Randy On 28/02/2014 10:57 AM, OK Don wrote: Mine burns auto gas at $3.50/gal at the rate of 10GPH, so $35/hr. or so for local flying. AV gas varies wildly from airport to airport, but averages around $6/gal, so $60/hr. cross country. Slower aircraft are usually more economical to fly as the increase in speed is not proportional to the increase in power (and fuel consumption). On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: And what does fuel run per hour? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
That's good to know. Haven't been behind a stick or yoke for 30 yearsprobably won't be in the future unless I hit the lottery or someone gifts me a plane. Dan Sent from my iPad On Feb 28, 2014, at 11:53 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Your ticket is valid until you screw up and they take it away. Your medical has to be current and you need a flight review. I just started again after a 30+ year hiatus due to raising kids, etc. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I have over 400 hours of left seat time in that airframe. Dan who's ticket long expired. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
Is a cheap aircraft like a cheap Mercedes? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Flying That's good to know. Haven't been behind a stick or yoke for 30 yearsprobably won't be in the future unless I hit the lottery or someone gifts me a plane. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
YES!!! On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Is a cheap aircraft like a cheap Mercedes? Fred Moir -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] front Struts - 91 300D
Howdy -- I am going to need front struts before too long. I noticed one of the front bushings was coming apart with the bottom 1/2 coming loose and sliding down the piston shaft. If I buy a strut like a Bilstein, do they usually come complete with the upper and lower bushings? Also, should fasteners be replaced (are they part of the strut kit?) and should any lock-tite or never-seize be placed on the fastener threads or do they come with something to lock them in? I looked at the shocks/struts and they looks to be pretty easy to RR but I seem to recall warnings about the type of spring compressor that is used. Can someone give me some details about how to deal with the springs? On other cars I would put a jack under the center of the LCA where the spring rests and then lower the car until things were relaxed. (i left some steps out for brevity). Is that not acceptable for the 91 W124 300D? Thanks gang! -- Sincerely, Larry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL
Hi and thanks for the replies. I checked out the alarm boxes under the passenger side and there are 3 boxes there. One is a Becker's, and 2 Bosch. Which is for the alarm? There is a warning not to mess with the red plug as it is the airbag control and may cause harm! Thanks. Ralph, '87 300SDL You can rule out the Becker. You can rule out the airbag one. the one that is left is the alarm. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Firewood
Dave wrote: ... I saw and split 10 -12 cords. Randy wrote: Have you seen Mitch trimmed all of Daves post (Thank you Mitch!) and wrote: ..log splitter of death... Andrew wrote: Where do you burn your firewood? Randy wrote: Are you asking me or Mitch? Andrew wrote: The Gilmore guy in WV who needs 10+ cords. If you are replying to Dave, why did you reply to the email from Mitch that was a reply from Randy that had _all_ of Dave's post trimmed? Try replying to the email to which your comment applies. It makes _so_ much more sense to the readers. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
OK wrote: Yup - plus the annual inspection ($500 - 1500) and repairs as needed, etc. It's not cheap - you have to REALLY want to fly. I'd start by getting an AP (airframe and powerplant) license because I _sure_ don't want to trust my life to another guy wrenching on my airplane. Or just fly it experimental and still do my own mechanic work. --Philip, who doesn't have an AP ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
Applies to boats too! Randy On 28/02/2014 12:01 PM, OK Don wrote: YES!!! On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Is a cheap aircraft like a cheap Mercedes? Fred Moir ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Firewood
Try replying to the email to which your comment applies. It makes _so_ much more sense to the readers. -- Philip ___ There would be no sport in that Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
Commercial flying bus route drivers are going to be in short supply as the skilled boys and former military flyboys age out. I do not have figures on the current crop of fighter jet jockeys moving to airlines, but I suspect it is a small number, given the pay and skill set requirements clay On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: he's not serious. you do know this, right? On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Kaleb, look at it this way: Recall your recent fun with Delta. Now think how the guys with the front-facing windows got jerked around similarly, but with a lot more stress. Now think about doing that 15-20 days every month, and that's after you've reached the peak of the profession. Now consider the impact on family life; my test pilot friends who flew for the airlines are all divorced except one. Now consider the mandatory retirement by age 65 or at the first bad physical. Now realize you'll be competing against 30-something former military pilots with thousands of hours when they start. Maybe not so cool? Kaleb wrote: ...but damn it seems like a cool job. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL
Thanks, I was able to re-boot the system doing the fuse replacement procedure and then unlocking and re-locking the door. I had to go to a deserted area to avoid driving everyone crazy with the alarm, but it worked and I didn't have to disconnect the alarm box. However, there are 3 boxes, as I previously said, one Becker and 2 Bosch. The Becker is on the left side and the 2 Bosch are on the right. One of them larger then the other, but I don't know which one is for the alarm, nor do I know what the remaining one is for. It would just be nice to know which one is the alarm, at this point. Ralph On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Hi and thanks for the replies. I checked out the alarm boxes under the passenger side and there are 3 boxes there. One is a Becker's, and 2 Bosch. Which is for the alarm? There is a warning not to mess with the red plug as it is the airbag control and may cause harm! Thanks. Ralph, '87 300SDL You can rule out the Becker. You can rule out the airbag one. the one that is left is the alarm. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more Euro headlights
Go for it! The lights completely change the look of the car for the better. You can use halogen bulbs and the fog light is included, not an external rusted out thing. Price is pretty good if the units are really in like new condition. Catalogue price would be at least $500 per clay On Feb 28, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-NEW-W114-W115-EURO-STYLE-HEADLIGHT-ASSEMBLIES-/151241353617?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item2336afe991vxp=mtr So, what do you think? They look better than a lot of the original ones that are getting pretty old. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more Euro headlights
I would like to do so. It is a bit odd that they mention all the vehicles they are supposed to fit but do not mention 1976. I assume, always a dangerous thing, that if it will fit a 1975 it will fit a 1976. Didn't the 123 come out mid year in 1976? That might be why they avoid stating it will fit a 1976. Randy On 28/02/2014 3:02 PM, clay wrote: Go for it! The lights completely change the look of the car for the better. You can use halogen bulbs and the fog light is included, not an external rusted out thing. Price is pretty good if the units are really in like new condition. Catalogue price would be at least $500 per clay On Feb 28, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-NEW-W114-W115-EURO-STYLE-HEADLIGHT-ASSEMBLIES-/151241353617?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item2336afe991vxp=mtr So, what do you think? They look better than a lot of the original ones that are getting pretty old. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Firewood
Kaleb is the master. He repleis yes in post 23 out of 57 in a conversation. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Try replying to the email to which your comment applies. It makes _so_ much more sense to the readers. -- Philip ___ There would be no sport in that Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Flying: Basic Rules fot Pilots
Try to stay in the middle of the air. Do not go near the edges of it. The edges of the air can be recognized by the appearance of ground, buildings, sea, trees and interstellar space. It is much more difficult to fly there. You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes full power to taxi to the terminal. The Piper Cub is the safest airplane in the world; it can just barely kill you. Blue water Navy truism: There are more planes in the ocean than there are submarines in the sky. If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter -- and, therefore, unsafe. When one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane, you always have enough power left to get you to the scene of the crash. Without ammunition, the USAF would just be another expensive flying club. I remember when sex was safe and flying was dangerous. If you're faced with a forced landing, fly the thing as far into the crash as possible. You've never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3. Never fly in the same cockpit with someone braver than you. Just remember, if you crash because of weather, your funeral will be held on a sunny day. When a flight is proceeding incredibly well, something was forgotten. The four most common expressions (aka famous last words) in aviation are: Why is it doing that?, Where are we?, Uh oh and Oh, shit. Every takeoff is optional. Every landing is mandatory. If you push the stick forward, the houses get bigger. If you pull the stick back, they get smaller. That is, unless you keep pulling the stick all the way back, then they get bigger again. Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous. It's always better to be down here wishing you were up there than up there wishing you were down here. The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire. The propeller is just a big fan in front of the plane used to keep the pilot cool. When it stops, you can actually watch the pilot start sweating. When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No one has ever collided with the sky. A 'good' landing is one from which you can walk away. A 'great' landing is one after which they can use the plane again. Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make all of them yourself. You know you've landed with the wheels up if it takes full power to taxi to the ramp. The probability of survival is inversely proportional to the angle of arrival. Large angle of arrival, small probability of survival and vice versa. Never let an aircraft take you somewhere your brain didn't get to five minutes earlier. Stay out of clouds. The silver lining everyone keeps talking about might be another airplane going in the opposite direction. Reliable sources also report that mountains have been known to hide out in clouds. Always try to keep the number of landings you make equal to the number of take offs you've made. There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately no one knows what they are. You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience before you empty the bag of luck. Helicopters can't fly; they're just so ugly the earth repels them. If all you can see out of the window is ground that's going round and round and all you can hear is commotion coming from the passenger compartment, things are not at all as they should be. In the ongoing battle between objects made of aluminum going hundreds of miles per hour and the ground going zero miles per hour, the ground has yet to lose. It's always a good idea to keep the pointy end going forward as much as possible. Keep looking around. There's always something you've missed. Remember, gravity is not just a good idea. It's the law. And it's not subject to repeal. The three most useless things to a pilot are the altitude above you, runway behind you, and a tenth of a second ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
And snowmobiles... -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 14:30:33 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Flying Message-ID: 5310f1e9.6030...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Applies to boats too! Randy On 28/02/2014 12:01 PM, OK Don wrote: YES!!! On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Is a cheap aircraft like a cheap Mercedes? Fred Moir ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme
Jon wrote: I think he was thinking more in terms of what such a scheme would do the hundreds of thousands of US citizens who are employed by the US air transportation industry. He makes it sound like Kaleb can train to be captain of 787 and commute to Singapore for work. Probable pay might be 40k. Sounds like exciting biz, Kaleb. Is this sad, Jon? - it seems sad. OTOH, this guy is pulling down 6figures due to seniority in his union, no doubt. This type of insistence on good pay and plush conditions seems to have outgrown its luster or place in world conditions. Maybe another spin he might play is to suggest his pay and pension are greater than needed and that he and many others cut their pay and pension in half to save his arena of the biz for future seniority such as Kaleb and Jon. I dunno... it all seems sad in too many ways, no? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pistol Caliber, was Crockett, Tubbs
Just remember that when you get old; (like over 60), they can keep you from getting pneumonia and save your life. Gerry Isn't the premise of the pneumonia shot that it is to prevent you from getting pneumonia? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme
Mao, What is it exactly that you do for a living? On Feb 28, 2014, at 9:30 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Jon wrote: I think he was thinking more in terms of what such a scheme would do the hundreds of thousands of US citizens who are employed by the US air transportation industry. He makes it sound like Kaleb can train to be captain of 787 and commute to Singapore for work. Probable pay might be 40k. Sounds like exciting biz, Kaleb. Is this sad, Jon? - it seems sad. OTOH, this guy is pulling down 6figures due to seniority in his union, no doubt. This type of insistence on good pay and plush conditions seems to have outgrown its luster or place in world conditions. Maybe another spin he might play is to suggest his pay and pension are greater than needed and that he and many others cut their pay and pension in half to save his arena of the biz for future seniority such as Kaleb and Jon. I dunno... it all seems sad in too many ways, no? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme
Jon wrote: What is it exactly that you do for a living? I am not alive, therefore I do nothing to live. I used to create drawings for commercial developments and wastewater reclamation and reuse systems. That type of work is dead except for new guys so this old guy steps aside in deference to the new guys who need to do life and I say to myself that time *was* good and all things *do* end, so... let it rip. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme
Jon wrote: What is it exactly that you do for a living? The more important question seems to be what a person such as yourself close to the biz might think about your seniority telling things such as this. Is this necessary? Can he solve the situation via gov't? Is the wolf gonna eat your industry? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more Euro headlights
Careful, those are aftermarket. The wiring is incomplete and I don't see how any standard H4 bulb can be used as the mount is quite strange. And don't expect much from them as far as lighting performance goes. Some are downright dangerous. Just put some 7 Cibies in the original US housing... they blow away any vintage european headlight. They're cheaper, too. If you want to improve the appearance, buy new headlight frames, or good used ones. Jaime On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I would like to do so. It is a bit odd that they mention all the vehicles they are supposed to fit but do not mention 1976. I assume, always a dangerous thing, that if it will fit a 1975 it will fit a 1976. Didn't the 123 come out mid year in 1976? That might be why they avoid stating it will fit a 1976. Randy On 28/02/2014 3:02 PM, clay wrote: Go for it! The lights completely change the look of the car for the better. You can use halogen bulbs and the fog light is included, not an external rusted out thing. Price is pretty good if the units are really in like new condition. Catalogue price would be at least $500 per clay On Feb 28, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-NEW-W114-W115-EURO- STYLE-HEADLIGHT-ASSEMBLIES-/151241353617?pt=Motors_Car_ Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item2336afe991vxp=mtr So, what do you think? They look better than a lot of the original ones that are getting pretty old. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] front Struts - 91 300D
Howdy -- I am going to need front struts before too long. I noticed one of the front bushings was coming apart with the bottom 1/2 coming loose and sliding down the piston shaft. If I buy a strut like a Bilstein, do they usually come complete with the upper and lower bushings? Also, should fasteners be replaced (are they part of the strut kit?) and should any lock-tite or never-seize be placed on the fastener threads or do they come with something to lock them in? I looked at the shocks/struts and they looks to be pretty easy to RR but I seem to recall warnings about the type of spring compressor that is used. Can someone give me some details about how to deal with the springs? On other cars I would put a jack under the center of the LCA where the spring rests and then lower the car until things were relaxed. (i left some steps out for brevity). Is that not acceptable for the 91 W124 300D? Thanks gang! -- Sincerely, Larry Buy the Bilsteins. You can probably get a good deal from autohausaz.com Unless you car has a lot of rust, you should be able to reuse the bolts and nuts, but it is not a bad idea to buy new if you want. The new ones to NOAT come with the dust cover. I was ablt to buy the dust covers directly from Bilstein, but they did not have a listing. SO if you search the archives, there is a post form me with the bilstein prat number for the dust covers. NO locktite needed as long as you tighten the bolts reasonably. I have done it with Rusty's loaner Klann compressor, and without. Since you have done it before with a jack, i'd say do it without the compressor, and with the jack. You may want to replace the rubber upper mount. I didn't but had to a year later. (with the jack) Bilsteins are lifetime warranty, and give the car the ride it was built to have. Anything else will not ride right. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pistol Caliber, was Crockett, Tubbs
Dieselhead wrote: Isn't the premise of the pneumonia shot that it is to prevent you from getting pneumonia? The problem is that prevention is *not* the only thing that the shot does. Those are the things I don't want to know, so I refuse this jazz. Last time I had flu shot was in coledg 40 years ago and I suspect it still affects my life today. That is not good medicine. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme
Mao, Yes, the WOLF just might eat the industry just as it did with the US maritime industry in the 1960’s and 70’s. The government only responds to it’s constituents, and if the constituents want a VIRTUAL airline responsible to nobody, so be it. You’ll get what you pay for. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/07/a-virtual-airline-a-real-crash/?_php=true_type=blogssmid=fb-share_r=0 As far as my seniority and experience go: I am an Naval Aviator with 8.5 active duty years experience flying P-3’s (L-188 Lockheed Electra for you civil types) worn further 2.5 years flying them in the reserves. I have been employed by Delta Air Lines for the past 22+ years and am rated as an international captain on the Boeing 767/757. I am 54 years old.. Any more questions? Jon PS: I’d love to teach Kaleb to fly, but my FAA flight instructor certificate expired in 1998, and besides he would not like my methods. I teach in the US Navy style. On Feb 28, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Jon wrote: What is it exactly that you do for a living? The more important question seems to be what a person such as yourself close to the biz might think about your seniority telling things such as this. Is this necessary? Can he solve the situation via gov't? Is the wolf gonna eat your industry? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 22:04:01 -0500 Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: PS: I’d love to teach Kaleb to fly, but my FAA flight instructor certificate expired in 1998, and besides he would not like my methods. I teach in the US Navy style. With every landing like that on a carrier? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] front Struts - 91 300D
There are four parts here -- strut itself, the boot, the top carrier, and a rubber jounce bumper that goes on the top of the strut rod under the boot. Replace the boots, it's imperative that you keep them in good shape. Otherwise road dirt chews up the top seal and the strut dies prematurely. You can easily change them by jacking the car up and putting it down on jack stands under the control arm in the cut-out near the ball joint. The weight of the car will keep the spring in place. You can then unbolt the strut, pull it down, and remove if. If there are any cracks in the visible rubber of the mounts, or they thump on bumps, replace them. Reminds me to check mine, I put new struts in but that was a while back and there is more noise up front than I like. Put the new boot and bumper on the new strut and put it in. Quite easy other than aligning the bolts and the dirt and grease. Have a care not to damage the wiring for the anti-lock brakes, and don't forget to take the clip for the wires off the old strut and put it on the new one before installation. It is vastly easier to replace the upper bearing while you have the strut out. Once the strut expands, they are a real pain to compress unless you want to take them out completely to change the bearing. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pistol Caliber, was Crockett, Tubbs
Just remember that when you get old; (like over 60), they can keep you from getting pneumonia and save your life. Gerry Isn't the premise of the pneumonia shot that it is to prevent you from getting pneumonia? Dieselhead In general, pneumonia shots protect against bacterial infections; especially the pneumococcus which causes bacterial pneumonia. These are usually given to people over 65. There are also pneumonia shots for less common bacterial infections that are often used on small children . Flu shots lessen the effect of viruses in viral pneumonia. Sometimes flu viruses will weaken a persons resistance and allow a secondary bacterial infection such as pneumococcal pneumonia to occur. That's why both flu shots and pneumonia shots are usually given to older people. Others who are more up to date can probably expand on this. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme
Never landed on a carrier. I know how to fly AOA (angle-of-attack) approaches, but the P-3 was 4-engine turboprop and landed on 6000-8000 foot runways. (Although I once did a radar approach to a fly by of the USS Constellation. On Feb 28, 2014, at 10:06 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 22:04:01 -0500 Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: PS: I’d love to teach Kaleb to fly, but my FAA flight instructor certificate expired in 1998, and besides he would not like my methods. I teach in the US Navy style. With every landing like that on a carrier? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] more Euro headlights
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-NEW-W114-W115-EURO-STYLE-HEADLIGHT- ASSEMBLIES-/ 151241353617?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item2336afe991 vxp=mtr I was toying with the idea of these Turkish lights for the reboot of the Frankenheap. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme
Craig wrote: With every landing like that on a carrier? Listen to NPR This American Life this weekend. The show was recorded on the Stennis aircraft carrier and is an interesting exposure to military life at sea on a huge 5,000 person boat. http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/206/somewhere-in-the-arabian-sea mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme
Ooops….I said Constellation….I meant Saratoga. On Feb 28, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Never landed on a carrier. I know how to fly AOA (angle-of-attack) approaches, but the P-3 was 4-engine turboprop and landed on 6000-8000 foot runways. (Although I once did a radar approach to a fly by of the USS Constellation. On Feb 28, 2014, at 10:06 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 22:04:01 -0500 Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: PS: I’d love to teach Kaleb to fly, but my FAA flight instructor certificate expired in 1998, and besides he would not like my methods. I teach in the US Navy style. With every landing like that on a carrier? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme
Jon wrote: The government only responds to it's constituents, and if the constituents want a VIRTUAL airline responsible to nobody, so be it. You'll get what you pay for. Ya think? - Do you really think they respond to constituents? I suspect that is not realistic. They respond like everyone else. They respond to $$ and that leads to corruption - read The Law by Frederic Bastiat online many places written in 1840. Another concern today is the reality that we all act like wall street gamblers taking more than necessary to make it while castrating the net worth of the nation collectively in the process at the expense of the nation potentially and our progeny. Good income has always been the objective but is there a place where we can say enough is enough and let other persons earn living using the excess we forgo? - key word is living, not excess. Be realistic about excess, be realistic about living. So seniority pilots lose a bit, other execs in other industries lose a bit, workers demand less, more people work, we live as a community nation again *with* each other instead of merely me and my bank account. Waaay off topic, but... these things can kill us not unlike the Wolf coming at our airline industry like the maritime industry 60 years ago. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pistol Caliber, was Crockett, Tubbs
On 2/28/2014 9:55 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Dieselhead wrote: Isn't the premise of the pneumonia shot that it is to prevent you from getting pneumonia? The problem is that prevention is *not* the only thing that the shot does. Those are the things I don't want to know, so I refuse this jazz. Last time I had flu shot was in coledg 40 years ago and I suspect it still affects my life today. That is not good medicine. mao What are the symptoms you experienced after receiving the flu shot in college? What are your symptoms now? The flu shots nowadays are far more benign, and far more effective, than those of even ten years ago. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Norwegian Air Shuttle Scheme
Jon wrote: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/07/a-virtual-airline-a-real-crash/?_php=true_type=blogssmid=fb-share_r=0 Really sad. Then one of its planes crashed, killing the pilots and four others, and Manx2 said it wasn't an airline after all. It was resolutely earthbound, a mere ticket seller. Someone else was responsible for what happened up in the sky. Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pistol Caliber, was Crockett, Tubbs
Gerry wrote: What are the symptoms you experienced after receiving the flu shot in college? What are your symptoms now? No real memory of the shot then but I have lived since then needing meds so my conjecture is without basis, but... other instances of strange things are noted these days for many things, so my mind wanders to back when and today. It seems we can never be too careful. Like Gary, I say our best healthcare is eating - eat food that is real and without labels such as greens and fruit. Solely? - certainly not, but much moreso than fast food or excess. Take as much life as necessary and leave plenty for others. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flying
I do my own wrenching, so far anyway, and it is nice to have someone else check the work before taking to the air. My butt's on the line, and his license to work is. We both have skin in the game. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: I'd start by getting an AP (airframe and powerplant) license because I _sure_ don't want to trust my life to another guy wrenching on my airplane. Or just fly it experimental and still do my own mechanic work. --Philip, who doesn't have an AP -- OK Don There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
