The cables are probably stuck or something, it is all manual.
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On Dec 27, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I’m considering taking a look at a 1979 350SE (Euro) that’s for sale in the
area. While everything checks out for the
From pictures I’m looking at the flaps are cable operated, but the two rotary
knobs are electrical switches, with the bottom one having some vacuum
connections as well.
Which knob does what? The icons or graphics aren’t terribly clear.
I’m finding some good pictures on eBay, but not a lot of
Well not sure then. Why would you want such a car anyway?
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On Dec 27, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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From pictures I’m looking at the flaps are cable operated, but the two rotary
knobs are electrical switches, with the bottom
Here’s an eBay auction with some good pictures:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/116-450SEL-280SEL-280SE-300SD-AC-HEATER-CLIMATE-CONTROL-EURO-/120927096866?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item1c27d11022
This system looks pretty complex. From these pictures it appears that there
are some
1.) Because it’s cool.
2.) I want a sedan, I’m really becoming disappointed with the SL (R129) from a
functional standpoint. The convertible thing just isn’t my bag. It’s a novelty
I thought I would enjoy, and quite honestly, I like the car better with the
hard top on.
The car is in
On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 22:31:08 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel
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BFD. The point is, if you have coal fired electricity nothing is going
to help.
Well, it is a big deal, since people tend to get all glassy-eyed over
electric cars and not consider what generates the
My favorite trick is to obtain full disclosure by asking this simple
question:
What would it take to make car 100 percent perfect - mechanically and
cosmetically?
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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1.) Because it’s cool.
2.) I want a
Well, those attitudes will have to die if we are to make progress in our
air quality environment.
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 22:31:08 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel
astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
BFD. The point is, if you
Craig via Mercedes wrote:
On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 22:31:08 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel
astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
BFD. The point is, if you have coal fired electricity nothing is going
to help.
Well, it is a big deal, since people tend to get all glassy-eyed over
electric cars and not consider
It's a ZEV if it came with a treadmill or stationary bicycle
for charging it. Otherwise, REV, and wipe that smug look off
your phiz, greenie! The R-er it is the more losses there are
in the process, which nobody talks about. What is the efficiency
rating of the electric grid system as a whole?
http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/4821295548.html
Rick
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Some wag needs to print up a bunch of Powered by Coal! bumper
stickers, easily removable, to apply to selected smugmobiles
as required. The lettering should be formed of black clouds
from a smokestack for best effect. (Not available in WA,
'cause we basically don't use coal. Maybe ours should
So, my former web site host, which basically disappeared
spontaneously last May causing me a whole bunch of flap
resulting in my setting up my own server, has recently
(?) decided to reappear. I, of course, haven't put any
newer content on it at all, since it was not there. I
have no reason to
Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/4821295548.html
If the purpose of the 190D is to make the 220D look fast, what does a 180D do,
make bicycles look fast?
Mitch.
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Yes.
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On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
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Dimitri Sez:
I have seen OM615 lines crack several times!
Did they have the clamps in place?
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But very very high mileage car, circa 800K.
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On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:51 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes
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Yes.
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On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
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Dimitri Sez:
I have
Mitch wrote:
If the purpose of the 190D is to make the 220D look fast, what does a 180D
do, make bicycles look fast?
That's just fine.
The objective has never been fast.
The objective has always been - get there, safe.
mao
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That is a nice car! I'd be sorely temped if it were in the neighborhood.
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes
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Mitch wrote:
If the purpose of the 190D is to make the 220D look fast, what does a
180D
do, make bicycles look fast?
That's
Much as I call SUV's RBV's (Ridiculously Big Vehicles), cause most of 'em
are.
Wilton
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Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] An article
Look at this one for a comparison -
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/4801580367.html
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 1:12 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
That is a nice car! I'd be sorely temped if it were in the neighborhood.
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes
Wow. That’s an extreme example of “optimistic”.
Dan
On Dec 27, 2014, at 2:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Look at this one for a comparison -
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/4801580367.html
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/4801580367.html
I know ask at my own risk. Does Mobil still make 5w-40 synthetic?
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See with that thing I would drop the body on an SL63 running gear or
bodge something up with some newer donor vehicle, and go around blowing
Porches off the road.
--R
On 12/27/14 2:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
Look at this one for a comparison -
I went and looked at a 82 240d 4 speed today. Guy parked it in 08 because he
did not drive it anymore and now won't start. It seems to crank fine. Had a
repaint in 05 that was ok. I figured out why it would not start, or at least
what it appears, the prefilter had no fuel in it. I bet if I
On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 14:52:33 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
He was asking 1k I offered 600 and he is firm. I come back at 800 he is
still firm. Told him I would think about it. Thinking i should have
just paid him and loaded it up.
Don't you have enough cars
On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 10:16:58 -0800 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Of course, its presence has apparently masked my new
site from Google's search results. Any suggestions?
I do seem to be able to reach the old site via FTP
again, should I just scuttle its contents? Will
Craig via Mercedes wrote:
I would expect that Google does actively prevent duplicate content
showing up.
Google has omitted xxx results similar to the ones shown.
To see omitted search results, click here.
Mitch.
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Yep.
Sorry for the mobile device link.
http://mobile.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-5W-40-Turbo-Diesel-Truck-Motor-Oil-1-gal./17128879
Rick
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Thanks. Have having trouble last couple changes sucking out 15w-50 in OM602
On Dec 27, 2014 4:18 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Yep.
Sorry for the mobile device link.
http://mobile.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-5W-40-Turbo-Diesel-Truck-Motor-Oil-1-gal./17128879
On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 16:07:20 -0500 Mitch Haley via Mercedes
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Craig via Mercedes wrote:
I would expect that Google does actively prevent duplicate content
showing up.
Google has omitted xxx results similar to the ones shown.
To see omitted search results,
I have a gallon of 15w50 not marked for any particular use if you want it. We
could meet in Worcester for breakfast or lunch. I've never had trouble getting
it.
Curt
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Yes. I bought a couple of gallons at Walmart one month ago.
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On Dec 27, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes
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I know ask at my own risk. Does Mobil still make 5w-40 synthetic?
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I just put in 15w-50 but Sam I have had increasing difficulty getting
it out even using two types of suckers . But we finally slowly got it out
today. I checked my records I have used 15w-50 in it for last 9 years so
won't switch to 5w-40. But breakfast in Worcester sounds great. Could give
Getting it warm first?
I've always had trouble with the sucker, never as easy as I thought it should
be. Still easier than the alternative...
Curt
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 15:55:35 -0800 Curt Raymond via Mercedes
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Getting it warm first?
Yes, trying to do it cold is asking for trouble.
I've always had trouble with the sucker, never as easy as I thought it
should be. Still easier than the alternative...
I've
Mercedes changed it's recommendations away from the sucker anyway.
The sucker is nice in the cold when you don't want to get on the ground, but,
it doesn't work well in the cold!
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On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
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The one I have says to run the engine (if it’s cold for 2-3 minutes) before
using the extractor. They specifically say to not use it if the engine is hot.
Dan
On Dec 27, 2014, at 7:32 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Mercedes changed it's recommendations away
124 and 201 cars the sucker is the way to go, the cars are low and the sounds
pans are in the way. On a 123 I drain from the bottom, its faster...
Curt
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So I have the sucker deal, it's called a suck up I believe. Instead of pumping
it the drain nozzle of the tank is the perfect since for the hose of my shop
vac to fit over so I just let the shop vac do the pumping.
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On Dec 27, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Craig wrote:
Well, it is a big deal, since people tend to get all glassy-eyed over
electric cars and not consider what generates the electricity.
To a certain degree, electricity generation is going to happen
regardless. It might be an interesting report to show how much
generation is
What do you mean? They don't recommend doing the sucking anymore?
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On Dec 27, 2014, at 6:32 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes
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Mercedes changed it's recommendations away from the sucker anyway.
The sucker is nice in the cold when you don't want
On a 123 I drain from the bottom, its faster...
I love using the topsider...sure, it takes a little while to drain, but then
you go off and do something else for 20 minutes or so. I do my '03 Jetta
TDI from the top too. Why crawl under a car unless required???
Greg
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Got it to operating temp on 10 mile run. But here is theoreticsl question.
Does oil temp rise the same as operating temp? Or does it need much longer
run? We have been top sucking for 10 years on various 123 124s. But
last couple have been hard. Can rule out miles on oil.
On Dec 27, 2014 6:58
Right but ambient temp was 58F today. Last time i had trouble was May. I am
baffled at what has changed.
On Dec 27, 2014 7:32 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Mercedes changed it's recommendations away from the sucker anyway.
The sucker is nice in the cold when you
Hmm that is interesting. Why? I have always gotten the engine hot.
On Dec 27, 2014 7:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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The one I have says to run the engine (if it’s cold for 2-3 minutes)
before using the extractor. They specifically say to not use it if the
engine
By crawling under a car you find stuff that you may normally miss, like a new
leak, a torn tie rod boot, etc., but it sucks to crawl under a car in the cold.
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On Dec 27, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
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On a 123 I drain from
Beats me. It’s what they said in the instructions. Hasn’t caused a problem
for me, as I just start the car and let it idle for a couple of minutes.
Dan
On Dec 27, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm that is interesting. Why? I have always gotten the engine
Hmm that is interesting. Why?
Too hot and the plastic sucking tube will collapse. Warm enough and the oil
flows well. So if the engine is at full temp I always let it cool for 10-15
min.
Greg
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Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
Got it to operating temp on 10 mile run. But here is theoreticsl question.
Does oil temp rise the same as operating temp? Or does it need much longer
run? We have been top sucking for 10 years on various 123 124s. But
last couple have been hard. Can rule out
Yes I wondered about when the oil cooler kicked in.
On Dec 27, 2014 8:43 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
Got it to operating temp on 10 mile run. But here is theoreticsl question.
Does oil temp rise the same as operating temp? Or does
Found a W116 Star service manual online, which just happened to have all the
Euro climate control information. Downloaded the who section so I can peruse
it at my leisure.
A pretty complex system considering it’s just a couple of knobs and some
cables. Lots of vacuum stuff going on.
Dan
Well I have been around cars long enough to remember single vis oil. So I
am wonder if only 2 -3 minute keeps it at lower vis? Anyway this used to be
easy so we are trying to figure out what has changed.
On Dec 27, 2014 7:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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The one I
Operating temp.
Wilton
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 15:55:35 -0800 Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Thanks all. I meant to send an oil change sample to Larry T but missed
that. Next change in 6 months.
On Dec 27, 2014 10:38 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Operating temp.
Wilton
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Well Dan I happen to think w116 models are cool. Good luck.
On Dec 27, 2014 9:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Found a W116 Star service manual online, which just happened to have all
the Euro climate control information. Downloaded the who section so I can
peruse
Well, those attitudes will have to die if we are to make progress in our
air quality environment.
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I agree those attitudes will have to die to make progress. I love
the smell of coal smoke and wood smoke in the
What's the paint code/name?
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes
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Well Dan I happen to think w116 models are cool. Good luck.
On Dec 27, 2014 9:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Found a W116 Star service manual
You must be sick of living
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 11:28 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
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Well, those attitudes will have to die if we are to make progress in our
air quality environment.
On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes
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I am guessing the controls are pretty much the same as on 108, 109,
110, 111, 112, 113 etc. with the addition of the integrated air
conditioning, and turned vertically.
Left heat, right heat, Air up or down, and the fourth one varies by
model, outside air or recirc, or defrost off or on.
Hmm that is interesting. Why? I have always gotten the engine hot.
On Dec 27, 2014 7:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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The one I have says to run the engine (if it's cold for 2-3 minutes)
before using the extractor. They specifically say to not use it if the
So I have the sucker deal, it's called a suck up I believe. Instead
of pumping it the drain nozzle of the tank is the perfect since for
the hose of my shop vac to fit over so I just let the shop vac do
the pumping.
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My sucker works great hot or cold. It is an old soda
Dwight sez:
Got it to operating temp on 10 mile run. But here is theoreticsl question.
Does oil temp rise the same as operating temp? Or does it need much longer
run? We have been top sucking for 10 years on various 123 124s. But
last couple have been hard. Can rule out miles on oil.
On Dec
On Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:38:54 -0500 Mitch Haley via Mercedes
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On my 16v (only car I have with oil temp gauge), ten miles is way more
than needed to get the water to thermostat temp, but not nearly enough
to get the oil temp to quit rising. Seems nearly impossible to
The Frankenheap's oil pressure drops a bit at idle when it's
fully up to temperature. That's how I know it's hot!
-- Jim
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