[MBZ] Your OT automotive Dissel pR0n for the day

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZhGpZaLC10&feature=youtu.be

Not MB, but Dissel funny

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Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

No, actually the modern version came about during WWI when factory  
owners could run another hour in the summer on second shift without  
using electric lighting.  Of course they were running three shifts so  
it made absolutely no difference anyway.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Over the last couple years my 300D has become reluctant to start at  
below zero temps.   one or two cylinders fire right up, and if the  
rest did like my old diesel did, it would take right off.


These days I have to keep cranking while it sputters and smokes,  
eventually starting and running poorly, but this was a -8,


Engine now has at least 400,000 miles on it, and I suspect I need to  
replace the pressure valve holder seals and probably need to check the  
injectors, it always runs rather rough at idle and the nozzles have at  
least 120,000 miles on them, possibly considerably more.


I think it would benefit from a new timing chain, too.

But it started and ran well at -8 with no block heater.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD: The faster I drive the colder it gets

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

MTC brand, made in China?

Avoid problems, order from MB Classic Center, restore heat, you will need it 
during the coming ice age.

If you have faith in global warming, get the MTC with five year warranty, which 
should be long enough for the earth to warm up...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 9, 2015 12:09:07 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>This one is really cheap.  What's the catch?
>
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-W123-HVAC-Heater-Control-Mono-Valve-Kit-0008350644-/261484645304?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ce1b30bb8&vxp=mtr
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Aircraft sighting

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Starting today, at Casa Grande, AZ is the Annual Cactus Fly in. It will run
through Sunday.

The Arizona Wing of CAF [formerly known as Confederate Air Force, until the
era of "political correctness'] will be in attendance with a good sample of
it's collection of WW2 bombers and fighters.

For a price, you can purchase a seat and go for a ride.. For an even
greater price, you can take a turn in the co-pilot seat and actually be at
the controls [you will only fit in the seat after you remove your wallet
{trust me on this} ].

This airplane orgy usually brings a very fine sampling of the best antique
and special interest airplanes from many states, along with several
privately owned WW2 fighter aircraft, all in flying status.



Ð
These shots were taken at last years event, but give some example of what
you can walk up and touch [with owners permission of course].

Note the snow and ice, with heavy overcast "Arizona style"  ;))

Grant...


Wish I could be there.   40 some years ago I 
tried to figure out a way to get to be a gopher 
for a crew at the reno air races to get close to 
some of those birds and the people who flew them. 
Never was successful.  At that time, Bearcats 
were the hot ride.


I did get to meet Pappy Boyington at Oshkosh in 
1987.  He was already in pretty bad shape then.

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Re: [MBZ] Aircraft sighting

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

 > >> As it passed over to the left, it appeared to be in 8th Air Force livery

 >> I could not make out the identification letters, but it was definitely
 NOT
 >> Aluminum Overcast as it was painted camouflage.
 >>
 >> Definitely a rare and exciting sighting, especially straight on.
 >>
 >> I am not sure how many examples are in flying condition, but this was
 one
 >> of em.  I was so Awestruck, I did not determine if it was an E, F, or G,
 >> but I am 90% positive it was not a G, because I believe i'd have noticed
 >> the chin turret.  I was focused on trying to read the ID letters on the
 >> waist to determine the name.
 >>

 > >>


Well, it must have been a G.  According to the internet, all flying 
condition B-17s are G models which never saw action in WWII.


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD: The faster I drive the colder it gets

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This one is really cheap.  What's the catch?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-W123-HVAC-Heater-Control-Mono-Valve-Kit-0008350644-/261484645304?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ce1b30bb8&vxp=mtr


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> It's the mono valve
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 8, 2015, at 10:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > My 1983 300TD has very little heat, although the engine warms up to
> normal
> > levels even on cold days so itg's unlikely I have a thermostat problem.
> >
> > At low speeds there is some tepid heat but once we start cruising on the
> > highway, the faster the speed the the colder it gets.  Ordinarily I would
> > say this must be the monovalve except that the AC worked flawlessly right
> > up to November.  Ideas?
> >
> > Andrew
> > 1983 300TD and 1985 300TD, both heat challenged
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD: The faster I drive the colder it gets

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

So why does the AC [I can't resist] BLOW ICE COLD?

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 11:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> It's the mono valve
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 8, 2015, at 10:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > My 1983 300TD has very little heat, although the engine warms up to
> normal
> > levels even on cold days so itg's unlikely I have a thermostat problem.
> >
> > At low speeds there is some tepid heat but once we start cruising on the
> > highway, the faster the speed the the colder it gets.  Ordinarily I would
> > say this must be the monovalve except that the AC worked flawlessly right
> > up to November.  Ideas?
> >
> > Andrew
> > 1983 300TD and 1985 300TD, both heat challenged
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Re: [MBZ] MB Archives

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Any practical uses?

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
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> Just opened to the public:
>>
>> https://mercedes-benz-publicarchive.com/marsPublic/
>> en/instance/ko.xhtml?oid=4940076&conversationId=423952
>>
>> Nice.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>
> The 110/OM621 one looks just like my 200D, except mine had a radio in it
> when I bought it.   I did have a 190D radio blank plate somewhere...
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I was totally BLINDSIDED this morning - the clock on my cell phone leapt
ahead without warning!!  I lost an hour but it sure was nice to enjoy
sunshine at 6:30 PM.

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:46 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
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> While I really don't like bankers, I do like more light in the evening. I
> also hate changing the clocks and having to adjust my schedule twice a
> year. I vote to permanently implement the one hour ahead - make "high noon
> sun time" happen at 1PM clock time. Of course, now that I'm retired and
> don't keep any kind of regular schedule at all - the only effect I suffer
> is that on those around me, like the other drivers, etc.
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 18:51:45 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>   Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing? Does
> >>>  anyone else find this whole business completely stupid and bothersome?
> >>>
> >>
> >> YES!!!
> >>
> >
> > Muey stupido
> >
> > It was done so the bankers can play more golf after they put in  a hard
> > day at work from 9 to 3 with a tee martuni 2 hour lunch.
> >
> >
>
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> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Buy a used blower motor - they're dirt cheap and easy to install.

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
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> Also possible the brushes are worn.  when the fan is off, (switch on) and
> you go over a RR Track, does the fan come on sometimes?  If so, I'd change
> the brushes.   If you drive with the switch on, and the fan starts and
> stops randomly, it can be brushes, or PBU.
>
>
>  The controller is probably going bad (or is bad I guess), bad solder
>> joints or connections or switches or something.  The repeat turning on
>> aspect might just be happenstance that it decides to work at some point.
>>
>> Did you actually CHANGE YOUR FUSE?
>>
>> --R
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Should I or shouldn't I?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Where are the pix?

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Well the ac really does blow ice cold but it only gets about 25mpg
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > And it gets 40mpg on free veggie oil!  Did that model come with the
> bulletproof glass?
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> >> On 3/8/15 6:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I forgot to mention the ac blows ice cold
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just do it
> >>>
> >>> --Nike
> >>>
>  On 3/8/15 5:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>  Looked at a 91 350sd today, odo shows 228k, seller said it worked but
> I know the trip odo did not work and did not notice if the main odo worked.
> Guy bought it off original owner and he has the service records back to
> new. Appears well maintained. Has had a little bid of paint work done on
> the drivers side. Very very clean engine with very little blow by. Asked
> how much oil it used and he says a qt every 3 tanks of fuel, so probably
> 1500 miles or so. It did not have that oil burning smell like I have seen
> other rod benders have and did not smoke. Rear muffler fell off so it needs
> to be replaced or maybe put back on. Noticed some jb weld on oil pan, he
> said he scraped the oil pan in his driveway and it did not crack by just
> applied it in case it did start leaking. I did not observe any leaks. Also
> needs tires and a couple glow plugs. He is selling it because he needs a
> truck for works. Wants $2500, I offered 2k and he said he had to get 2500.
> Told him I would think about it. It is a nice well documented car but not
> sure if I am being to cheap. 2500 seems fair for the car but I would like
> to be closer to 2. I have always wanted a 91 126 diesel and it does drive
> very nice. Shifts good, suspension feels good. Interior in good shape. Has
> a few dings here and there. Clean carfax.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I buy a 1985 300CD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

SICK!  What is that color?  Must be aftermarket.  THIS CAR HAS NO VALUE.
But I will give you $500 anyway since you are a decent fellow.

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
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> It worked that time.  It is the maroon colored car?  I love that color.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 3/7/15 7:54 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
>
>> Tap the skip button, or whatever it says, to get past it... no need to
>> download an app to view stuff on flickr. Although they do have an app.
>>
>> Jaime
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
>> That link wants me to download an app for my phone and to sign in,
>> does not go to your photos.
>>
>> --R
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/7/15 2:47 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>> Its been a while since I've driven an 1985 car powered by an
>> OM617a...  I
>> never owned one, but I've driven several and was alway
>> impressed.  I always
>> considered a 1985 W123 to be the most refined of the bunch,
>> and therefore
>> the most desirable.
>>
>> I've heard a few folks on the list here say they avoid the
>> last model year
>> for various reasons, but I don't really understand why.  Sure
>> there are a
>> few more vacuum lines under the hood, but no more than found
>> on 1986-
>> cars.  Acceleration off the line is outstanding, the
>> transmission shifts
>> better than earlier cars, and the lower geared rear makes for
>> a better
>> highway cruise.
>>
>> I just brought this home:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16743796931/in/
>> photostream/
>>
>> A 1985, 240k miles... a bit high for my tastes, but its second
>> owner bough
>> the car in 1990 and has always serviced it at the dealer.  Its
>> had lots of
>> work done and really drives nicely.  Of course, a few things
>> to sort out
>> still... but a great car with original paint, super clean in
>> terms of rust,
>> always garaged in NYC.
>>
>> Jaime
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD: The faster I drive the colder it gets

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It's the mono valve 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 8, 2015, at 10:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My 1983 300TD has very little heat, although the engine warms up to normal
> levels even on cold days so itg's unlikely I have a thermostat problem.
> 
> At low speeds there is some tepid heat but once we start cruising on the
> highway, the faster the speed the the colder it gets.  Ordinarily I would
> say this must be the monovalve except that the AC worked flawlessly right
> up to November.  Ideas?
> 
> Andrew
> 1983 300TD and 1985 300TD, both heat challenged
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[MBZ] 1983 300TD: The faster I drive the colder it gets

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My 1983 300TD has very little heat, although the engine warms up to normal
levels even on cold days so itg's unlikely I have a thermostat problem.

At low speeds there is some tepid heat but once we start cruising on the
highway, the faster the speed the the colder it gets.  Ordinarily I would
say this must be the monovalve except that the AC worked flawlessly right
up to November.  Ideas?

Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] Aircraft sighting

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

On behalf of the non-secessionist community, I apologize to all the
confederate flyers whose feelings were hurt when the name of the show was
changed

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 1:33 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Starting today, at Casa Grande, AZ is the Annual Cactus Fly in. It will run
> through Sunday.
>
> The Arizona Wing of CAF [formerly known as Confederate Air Force, until the
> era of "political correctness'] will be in attendance with a good sample of
> it's collection of WW2 bombers and fighters.
>
> For a price, you can purchase a seat and go for a ride.. For an even
> greater price, you can take a turn in the co-pilot seat and actually be at
> the controls [you will only fit in the seat after you remove your wallet
> {trust me on this} ].
>
> This airplane orgy usually brings a very fine sampling of the best antique
> and special interest airplanes from many states, along with several
> privately owned WW2 fighter aircraft, all in flying status.
>
>
>
> ​
> These shots were taken at last years event, but give some example of what
> you can walk up and touch [with owners permission of course].
>
> Note the snow and ice, with heavy overcast "Arizona style"  ;))
>
> Grant...
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:36 AM, WILTON via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > "LARGE aircraft?"  ;<)
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 11:47 PM
> > Subject: [MBZ] Aircraft sighting
> >
> >
> >
> >  Sunday evening, driving along the tollway from i75 to orlando, I spied a
> >> large aircraft going low and slow straight at us, apparently navigating
> by
> >> tollway.  (VFR)   From a distance I could not make out much, but
> silhouette
> >> and flight characteristics seemed similar to a B-17 limping home to
> england
> >> during WWII.  I kept thinking, Naaa can't be, then wondering if I was
> >> hallucinating or in a time warp.
> >>
> >> I was sure it had to be a piston engine plane, because of the speed. As
> >> we closed eventually I could make out 4 engine nacelles, so the thoughts
> >> were the same...B17... Naaa, can't be... am I in a time warp?
> >>
> >> It got close enough  to identify, and my heart leapt!  It REALLY was a
> >> B-17!
> >>
> >> As it passed over to the left, it appeared to be in 8th Air Force livery
> >> I could not make out the identification letters, but it was definitely
> NOT
> >> Aluminum Overcast as it was painted camouflage.
> >>
> >> Definitely a rare and exciting sighting, especially straight on.
> >>
> >> I am not sure how many examples are in flying condition, but this was
> one
> >> of em.  I was so Awestruck, I did not determine if it was an E, F, or G,
> >> but I am 90% positive it was not a G, because I believe i'd have noticed
> >> the chin turret.  I was focused on trying to read the ID letters on the
> >> waist to determine the name.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] MB Archives

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Just opened to the public:

https://mercedes-benz-publicarchive.com/marsPublic/en/instance/ko.xhtml?oid=4940076&conversationId=423952

Nice.

Dan


The 110/OM621 one looks just like my 200D, except mine had a radio in 
it when I bought it.   I did have a 190D radio blank plate 
somewhere...


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Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

[OK Don via Mercedes]

While I really don't like bankers, I do like more light in the evening. I
also hate changing the clocks and having to adjust my schedule twice a
year. I vote to permanently implement the one hour ahead - make "high noon
sun time" happen at 1PM clock time. Of course, now that I'm retired and
don't keep any kind of regular schedule at all - the only effect I suffer
is that on those around me, like the other drivers, etc.

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 18:51:45 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>>   Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing? Does
>>>  anyone else find this whole business completely stupid and bothersome?
>>>
>>
>> YES!!!
>>
>
> Muey stupido
>
> It was done so the bankers can play more golf after they put in  a hard
> day at work from 9 to 3 with a tee martuni 2 hour lunch.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] Hi lift jack

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

HA!
I'd said grease but Hi-Lift specifically recommends a light lubricating oil, 
silicone or teflon spray. They also specifically say NOT motor oil although I 
bet many a hi-lift has been lubed with motor oil.
I suspect it just ships with a little spray of WD-40 or some like to keep it 
from rusting.
Sounds like the foot didn't work out, shoulda probably read the manual: 
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/A1veiEJCLxS.pdfthe foot slipping out is 
probably the most common "oops" with them. I've seen people stand them in an 
old wheel to stablize them. I keep a couple pieces of 2x12 maybe 18" long in 
the truck when I'm carrying the jack.
-Curt
  From: G Mann via Mercedes 
 To: Kaleb C. Striplin ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2015 10:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hi lift jack
   
A ... finally.. another oil thread !!

;)

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Right out of the box?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Mar 8, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > You know you have to grease the jack right?
> > -Curt
> >      From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2015 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [MBZ] Hi lift jack
> >
> > So the hi lift jack, off road base, and lift mate arrived so I started
> around 10:30 this morning digging the truck out. Just now got done. That
> was a whore of a job. I just don't think the real deal hi lift is as good
> of quality as they used to be. After a while it because almost impossible
> after pumping the handle down to get it back up, it kept catching on
> something. Then on one wheel the plate kept sliding out and I ended up
> putting a big old dent in my truck. Plenty of choice words were used.
> Anyway I finally got that pig out of the mud and I am work plumb out.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Once he got a decent battery in it, my son's 190D started reliably in
Houghton, MI - on the UP - for two years. I'm sure it got plenty cold
there. I never had an issue with any of the OM60x engines at or a little
below 0F here. Mobil 1 is your friend (at the risk of starting another oil
thread).

I agree that given that you are moving soon, having one less car to move is
a plus. So glad to hear that Shirley is going to be OK - rolling a car is
very scary!


On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Any 60x engine should start well below zero. I've never figured out how
> cold it has to be before a 190D won't start. I've had 'em start easily at
> -10F. I've started my '98 Jetta at -16F and although I had to wait for a
> long time for the glow plugs it started right up no problem. I'd suggest
> any diesel in that age range should start right up in the cold.
> -Curt
>


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Re: [MBZ] Hi lift jack

[G Mann via Mercedes]

A ... finally.. another oil thread !!

;)

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Right out of the box?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 8, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > You know you have to grease the jack right?
> > -Curt
> >  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2015 4:30 PM
> > Subject: [MBZ] Hi lift jack
> >
> > So the hi lift jack, off road base, and lift mate arrived so I started
> around 10:30 this morning digging the truck out. Just now got done. That
> was a whore of a job. I just don't think the real deal hi lift is as good
> of quality as they used to be. After a while it because almost impossible
> after pumping the handle down to get it back up, it kept catching on
> something. Then on one wheel the plate kept sliding out and I ended up
> putting a big old dent in my truck. Plenty of choice words were used.
> Anyway I finally got that pig out of the mud and I am work plumb out.
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Re: [MBZ] Hi lift jack

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Right out of the box?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 8, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You know you have to grease the jack right?
> -Curt
>  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2015 4:30 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Hi lift jack
> 
> So the hi lift jack, off road base, and lift mate arrived so I started around 
> 10:30 this morning digging the truck out. Just now got done. That was a whore 
> of a job. I just don't think the real deal hi lift is as good of quality as 
> they used to be. After a while it because almost impossible after pumping the 
> handle down to get it back up, it kept catching on something. Then on one 
> wheel the plate kept sliding out and I ended up putting a big old dent in my 
> truck. Plenty of choice words were used. Anyway I finally got that pig out of 
> the mud and I am work plumb out.
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Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Also possible the brushes are worn.  when the fan is off, (switch on) 
and you go over a RR Track, does the fan come on sometimes?  If so, 
I'd change the brushes.   If you drive with the switch on, and the 
fan starts and stops randomly, it can be brushes, or PBU.



The controller is probably going bad (or is bad I guess), bad solder 
joints or connections or switches or something.  The repeat turning 
on aspect might just be happenstance that it decides to work at some 
point.


Did you actually CHANGE YOUR FUSE?

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Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 18:51:45 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 wrote:


 Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing? Does
 anyone else find this whole business completely stupid and bothersome?


YES!!!


Muey stupido

It was done so the bankers can play more golf after they put in  a 
hard day at work from 9 to 3 with a tee martuni 2 hour lunch.


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Re: [MBZ] Hi lift jack

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

You know you have to grease the jack right?
-Curt
  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
 Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2015 4:30 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Hi lift jack
   
So the hi lift jack, off road base, and lift mate arrived so I started around 
10:30 this morning digging the truck out. Just now got done. That was a whore 
of a job. I just don't think the real deal hi lift is as good of quality as 
they used to be. After a while it because almost impossible after pumping the 
handle down to get it back up, it kept catching on something. Then on one wheel 
the plate kept sliding out and I ended up putting a big old dent in my truck. 
Plenty of choice words were used. Anyway I finally got that pig out of the mud 
and I am work plumb out.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - RAISING COTTON

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Did I ever mention I have my great grandfather's Farmall Regular? He bought it 
new in 1929, my grandmother has his ledger from when he bought it. I have 
pictures of my dad as a little boy sitting on it. Its fun to show off the 
pictures and people ask if he is me...
Sadly he was killed by a train in 1933. Thats an Wilton-like story I might 
recount some day.
-Curt
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 To: Mountain Man ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2015 9:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - RAISING COTTON
   
A tobacco farmer with a tractor in eastern NC in 1940 would have been VERY 
rare.  Mules were used for certain jobs into the sixties.  Tractors began to 
take many of their jobs in the early fifties.

 $$ enough for my house today?  You are kidding, aren't you?  ;<)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - RAISING COTTON


> Wilton wrote:
>> Cotton is another crop we raised that was very labor-intensive but not
>> nearly so much as tobacco.
>
> Mules were used in 1940?
> Did this type of wage earn $$ enough to live in the house you live today?
> Thanks.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I live in Arizona, where the sun shines on average 360 days out of the
year. Arizona does not have daylight savings. Our Legislature was wise
enough to understand that we have enough sunshine and we have no need to
"save it"..

I personally note that "Daylight Savings" is a government program, which
has been "saving daylight" now for several decades with nothing to show for
it.

If it were a private enterprise, the daylight "saved" would be sold back
during the long dark winter hours in the frozen northeast to those vitamin
D deprived souls only getting 4 hrs of weak sun per day, or to melt snow
instead of rust cars with salt infused roads, or some other useful purpose.

If the government actually saved daylight, it would have devised some
"national sun energy reserve" managed by Dept of Energy, where you could
apply for sunlight allotments, or some other scheme.. Then, of course,,,
there would be a "sunshine tax".. have to tax it.. right?

Well.. let me just close with the comment that the government ordered
daylight savings should be put where the sun doesn't shine..

[Had to work for that one.. didn't I .. ;)) ]

Grant...

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing? Does
> anyone else find this whole business completely stupid and bothersome?
>
> I grew up in Indiana, the time never changed so in the winter we were on
> Central Time and in the summer we were on Eastern time, or maybe the other
> way around, I forget, doesn't matter anyway.  No one ever had an issue with
> it.  Then I moved to places where the time changes and everyone I know
> complains about it.  That is my anecdotal survey of the stupidity of it.
>
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Any 60x engine should start well below zero. I've never figured out how cold it 
has to be before a 190D won't start. I've had 'em start easily at -10F. I've 
started my '98 Jetta at -16F and although I had to wait for a long time for the 
glow plugs it started right up no problem. I'd suggest any diesel in that age 
range should start right up in the cold.
-Curt
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck
   
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:33:12 -0400 Max Dillon 
wrote:

> Craig,
> 
> Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  
> 
> Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?
> Perhaps leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six
> engine?  I think nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More and
> better safety features, which may be attractive to you.

Re-taking the thread to talk about our car situation :-) :

I had been thinking of another late W124 (I have a set of 15" rims I got
from Kaleb and could get the 16" rims off our '95 E320 -- if they are not
bent).

I also thought of an '84 or '85 300SD.

I would be open to a W140, given Dan's positive comments on the series
(and, hopefully, his advice on fixing one).

I'm not sure I would want a W210, since we will be moving to the Rust
Belt in northern Indiana.

Also, since we will be where it gets COLD, I'm thinking our next car
should run on gasoline, unless a diesel can be started when it's cold.
One advantage, though, is that Elkhart is close to water, so it won't get
quite as bitterly cold as, say, Montana or Minnesota.

With the number of things we need to do before the end of the month when
we need to be out of our home, I'm thinking of delaying the acquisition
of another Mercedes until after we move. And I'm still in the process of
getting our truck repaired (which is why Shirley was coming down to
Albuquerque to pick me up). I need to go down to Albuquerque (~ 2 hours
one way) early this week to retrieve our personal items from our E320 and
then go talk with people about trailers and tires for them.




Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a Flipper for Jaime

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On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 20:02:16 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I wonder if I could get that motor into a 123 coupe!

Now there's a thought!

With all the tin worm's work that you can see, you probably could not fix
it economically. I wonder what the shock towers look like.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - RAISING COTTON

[WILTON via Mercedes]

A tobacco farmer with a tractor in eastern NC in 1940 would have been VERY 
rare.  Mules were used for certain jobs into the sixties.  Tractors began to 
take many of their jobs in the early fifties.


$$ enough for my house today?  You are kidding, aren't you?   ;<)

Wilton

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Wilton wrote:

Cotton is another crop we raised that was very labor-intensive but not
nearly so much as tobacco.


Mules were used in 1940?
Did this type of wage earn $$ enough to live in the house you live today?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] BMW carpet set

[dseretakis--- via Mercedes]

Thanks. It's good fun!

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> On Mar 8, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
> 
> Impressive!  Keep up the good work!
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:44 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
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>> I'm sewing one up. Check it out here:
>> 
>> http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=22025.0
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a Flipper for Jaime

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, just takes time and money

Sell a few more treasurers, and you can pay someone else.

More fun, transplant into a wagon for a real sleeper.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On March 8, 2015 8:02:16 PM EDT, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I wonder if I could get that motor into a 123 coupe!
>
>
>On Sunday, March 8, 2015, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>
>wrote:
>
>> Perfect Jersey car, and cheap, too!
>>
>>
>>
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/181684681681?forcerRptr=true&item=181684681681&viewitem=
>> <
>>
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/181684681681?forcerRptr=true&item=181684681681&viewitem=
>> >
>>
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Re: [MBZ] BMW carpet set

[dseretakis--- via Mercedes]

Yes I learned a bunch from the Internet but practiced a whole lot on my GF's 
home machine. I then practiced sewing in circles and curves on the industrial 
machine. Tricky thing is controlling the speed on industrial machines fitted 
with the old fashioned clutch style motors like mine. I could fit it with a 
servo motor which is what is used now but I really didn't see the point. With a 
few hours of practice I tamed it!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2015, at 8:43 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a machine my uncle had, he got it from the shoe factory that closed in 
> the town where he lived.  it is similar to that one you have, I don't 
> remember the brand, it might be a Singer.  THe whole set up weighs about 
> 300lb.
> 
> I need to learn how to set it up and use it.  Did you do your learnings on 
> the tubernets?
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/6/15 7:44 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> I'm sewing one up. Check it out here:
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>> http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=22025.0
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Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

No.  Doesn't bother me.

Perhaps I've become immune with all my worldly travels and sailing the seven 
seas (actually only sailed in four of them, so far).
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On March 8, 2015 6:51:45 PM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing? Does 
>anyone else find this whole business completely stupid and bothersome?
>
>I grew up in Indiana, the time never changed so in the winter we were
>on 
>Central Time and in the summer we were on Eastern time, or maybe the 
>other way around, I forget, doesn't matter anyway.  No one ever had an 
>issue with it.  Then I moved to places where the time changes and 
>everyone I know complains about it.  That is my anecdotal survey of the
>
>stupidity of it.
>
>--R
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Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

If a slight turn of the key switches the fan on, it's time for a new  
key switch.  You won't like the price.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a Flipper for Jaime

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

I wonder if I could get that motor into a 123 coupe!


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Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Indiana changes now, and it's stupid.

I've heard every excuse in the book for why we do it, but none of them  
are factual.


Another "better idea" that wasn't, but got stuck in the works so we  
have to deal with it.


Same as summers off in college so the kids can go work on the farm,  
which they mostly never did.


Long past time to ditch a stupid idea.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior

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G. M. wrote:
> Anyone got any suggestions as to where/what to look for?
>

We have that in one of our W123.  A slight turn of the key one way or
the other makes fan operate.  You might try that?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

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Craig wrote:
> Our recent experience was on Friday, before the change.
>

Yabbbuttt...
That is too close.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

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On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 18:40:39 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes
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> Craig wrote:
> > There have been studies done which show that Daylight Time:
> >
> > - Causes automobile accidents,
> 
> DO NOT SAY that again, given your recent experience, please.
> mao

Our recent experience was on Friday, before the change.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

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Craig wrote:
> There have been studies done which show that Daylight Time:
>
> - Causes automobile accidents,

DO NOT SAY that again, given your recent experience, please.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

Same here.  Grew up in Dayton, went to school in Indiana and grew really fond 
of no time change.

> On Mar 8, 2015, at 6:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing? Does anyone 
> else find this whole business completely stupid and bothersome?
> 
> I grew up in Indiana, the time never changed so in the winter we were on 
> Central Time and in the summer we were on Eastern time, or maybe the other 
> way around, I forget, doesn't matter anyway.  No one ever had an issue with 
> it.  Then I moved to places where the time changes and everyone I know 
> complains about it.  That is my anecdotal survey of the stupidity of it.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

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On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 18:51:45 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
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> Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing? Does 
> anyone else find this whole business completely stupid and bothersome?

YES!!!


> I grew up in Indiana, the time never changed so in the winter we were
> on Central Time and in the summer we were on Eastern time, or maybe the 
> other way around, I forget, doesn't matter anyway.  No one ever had an 
> issue with it.  Then I moved to places where the time changes and 
> everyone I know complains about it.  That is my anecdotal survey of the 
> stupidity of it.

There have been studies done which show that Daylight Time:

- Causes medical problems,
- Causes automobile accidents,
- Raises other havoc and difficulties.

I do not like it.

BTW, does Indiana still stay on standard time, not changing for Daylight
Time?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - RAISING COTTON

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Wilton wrote:
> Cotton is another crop we raised that was very labor-intensive but not
> nearly so much as tobacco.

Mules were used in 1940?
Did this type of wage earn $$ enough to live in the house you live today?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

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--R wrote:
> Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing?
>

Yes.
mao

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[MBZ] OT Temporal Discontinuity

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Is anyone else totally ferklempt with the DST time change thing? Does 
anyone else find this whole business completely stupid and bothersome?


I grew up in Indiana, the time never changed so in the winter we were on 
Central Time and in the summer we were on Eastern time, or maybe the 
other way around, I forget, doesn't matter anyway.  No one ever had an 
issue with it.  Then I moved to places where the time changes and 
everyone I know complains about it.  That is my anecdotal survey of the 
stupidity of it.


--R



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Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

The controller is probably going bad (or is bad I guess), bad solder 
joints or connections or switches or something.  The repeat turning on 
aspect might just be happenstance that it decides to work at some point.


Did you actually CHANGE YOUR FUSE?

--R



On 3/8/15 6:30 PM, G. M. Brown via Mercedes wrote:

Guys,

Just thought I'd touch base to see if any of you have experienced the same fan 
oddity and found the cause, etc.  While driving around the other day on some 
errands and stopping/starting the car occasionally, the interior fan would not 
turn on after a restart unless I turned the car off again (sometimes it would 
require 2X restarts for the fan to start).  Anyone got any suggestions as to 
where/what to look for?  And, no it's not the fuse (8).  TIA.

G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC

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Re: [MBZ] BMW carpet set

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

I’ve seen it in person.  Dimitri does really nice work!


> On Mar 8, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
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> Impressive!  Keep up the good work!
> 
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>> I'm sewing one up. Check it out here:
>> 
>> http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=22025.0
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[MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior

[G. M. Brown via Mercedes]

Guys,

Just thought I'd touch base to see if any of you have experienced the same fan 
oddity and found the cause, etc.  While driving around the other day on some 
errands and stopping/starting the car occasionally, the interior fan would not 
turn on after a restart unless I turned the car off again (sometimes it would 
require 2X restarts for the fan to start).  Anyone got any suggestions as to 
where/what to look for?  And, no it's not the fuse (8).  TIA.

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Re: [MBZ] Should I or shouldn't I?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well the ac really does blow ice cold but it only gets about 25mpg

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> On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And it gets 40mpg on free veggie oil!  Did that model come with the 
> bulletproof glass?
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 3/8/15 6:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I forgot to mention the ac blows ice cold
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just do it
>>> 
>>> --Nike
>>> 
 On 3/8/15 5:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 Looked at a 91 350sd today, odo shows 228k, seller said it worked but I 
 know the trip odo did not work and did not notice if the main odo worked. 
 Guy bought it off original owner and he has the service records back to 
 new. Appears well maintained. Has had a little bid of paint work done on 
 the drivers side. Very very clean engine with very little blow by. Asked 
 how much oil it used and he says a qt every 3 tanks of fuel, so probably 
 1500 miles or so. It did not have that oil burning smell like I have seen 
 other rod benders have and did not smoke. Rear muffler fell off so it 
 needs to be replaced or maybe put back on. Noticed some jb weld on oil 
 pan, he said he scraped the oil pan in his driveway and it did not crack 
 by just applied it in case it did start leaking. I did not observe any 
 leaks. Also needs tires and a couple glow plugs. He is selling it because 
 he needs a truck for works. Wants $2500, I offered 2k and he said he had 
 to get 2500. Told him I would think about it. It i
 s a nice well documented car but not sure if I am being to cheap. 2500 seems 
fair for the car but I would like to be closer to 2. I have always wanted a 91 
126 diesel and it does drive very nice. Shifts good, suspension feels good. 
Interior in good shape. Has a few dings here and there. Clean carfax.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Should I or shouldn't I?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

And it gets 40mpg on free veggie oil!  Did that model come with the 
bulletproof glass?


--R


On 3/8/15 6:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I forgot to mention the ac blows ice cold

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:

Just do it

--Nike


On 3/8/15 5:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Looked at a 91 350sd today, odo shows 228k, seller said it worked but I know 
the trip odo did not work and did not notice if the main odo worked. Guy bought 
it off original owner and he has the service records back to new. Appears well 
maintained. Has had a little bid of paint work done on the drivers side. Very 
very clean engine with very little blow by. Asked how much oil it used and he 
says a qt every 3 tanks of fuel, so probably 1500 miles or so. It did not have 
that oil burning smell like I have seen other rod benders have and did not 
smoke. Rear muffler fell off so it needs to be replaced or maybe put back on. 
Noticed some jb weld on oil pan, he said he scraped the oil pan in his driveway 
and it did not crack by just applied it in case it did start leaking. I did not 
observe any leaks. Also needs tires and a couple glow plugs. He is selling it 
because he needs a truck for works. Wants $2500, I offered 2k and he said he 
had to get 2500. Told him I would think about it. It is

 a nice well documented car but not sure if I am being to cheap. 2500 seems 
fair for the car but I would like to be closer to 2. I have always wanted a 91 
126 diesel and it does drive very nice. Shifts good, suspension feels good. 
Interior in good shape. Has a few dings here and there. Clean carfax.


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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:33:12 -0400 Max Dillon 
wrote:

> Craig,
> 
> Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  
> 
> Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?
> Perhaps leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six
> engine?  I think nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More and
> better safety features, which may be attractive to you.

Re-taking the thread to talk about our car situation :-) :

I had been thinking of another late W124 (I have a set of 15" rims I got
from Kaleb and could get the 16" rims off our '95 E320 -- if they are not
bent).

I also thought of an '84 or '85 300SD.

I would be open to a W140, given Dan's positive comments on the series
(and, hopefully, his advice on fixing one).

I'm not sure I would want a W210, since we will be moving to the Rust
Belt in northern Indiana.

Also, since we will be where it gets COLD, I'm thinking our next car
should run on gasoline, unless a diesel can be started when it's cold.
One advantage, though, is that Elkhart is close to water, so it won't get
quite as bitterly cold as, say, Montana or Minnesota.

With the number of things we need to do before the end of the month when
we need to be out of our home, I'm thinking of delaying the acquisition
of another Mercedes until after we move. And I'm still in the process of
getting our truck repaired (which is why Shirley was coming down to
Albuquerque to pick me up). I need to go down to Albuquerque (~ 2 hours
one way) early this week to retrieve our personal items from our E320 and
then go talk with people about trailers and tires for them.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

That sort of thing is pretty scary, glad she has emerged mostly 
functional.  A testament I guess to a car that is 20 years old, and the 
engineering in it.  Not sure I would want to be in some other 20 yr old 
vehicle and do that, though my truck is a 96 and I drive that.  Hope I 
never have the chance to test its integrity in that fashion.


Maybe Kleb can give you a coupla $100 for the hulk, use the bits to fix 
up his other treasures.


--R



On 3/8/15 5:32 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 11:15:57 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:


Geez glad to hear she is ok. What was she driving? The snook car?

She's banged up, bruised, and sore, but is OK.

She was driving our '95 E320 (the one I bought from Snook). I haven't
seen it, but was told it was rolled multiple times, so I cannot see how
it won't be totaled.

I guess I won't be needing the passenger side mirror from you anymore. :-)

I also won't have to change the transmission fluid, fix the emergency
blinker, or buy new tires for it.

We had a flat tire while we were in Carlsbad and I almost bought a new
set for the car since the Nokian WRG2 tires are down to the wear bars --
having to wait a day for the tire store to get them from Albuquerque or
El Paso stopped that, thankfully.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Should I or shouldn't I?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I forgot to mention the ac blows ice cold

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> On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just do it
> 
> --Nike
> 
>> On 3/8/15 5:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Looked at a 91 350sd today, odo shows 228k, seller said it worked but I know 
>> the trip odo did not work and did not notice if the main odo worked. Guy 
>> bought it off original owner and he has the service records back to new. 
>> Appears well maintained. Has had a little bid of paint work done on the 
>> drivers side. Very very clean engine with very little blow by. Asked how 
>> much oil it used and he says a qt every 3 tanks of fuel, so probably 1500 
>> miles or so. It did not have that oil burning smell like I have seen other 
>> rod benders have and did not smoke. Rear muffler fell off so it needs to be 
>> replaced or maybe put back on. Noticed some jb weld on oil pan, he said he 
>> scraped the oil pan in his driveway and it did not crack by just applied it 
>> in case it did start leaking. I did not observe any leaks. Also needs tires 
>> and a couple glow plugs. He is selling it because he needs a truck for 
>> works. Wants $2500, I offered 2k and he said he had to get 2500. Told him I 
>> would think about it. It is 
 a nice well documented car but not sure if I am being to cheap. 2500 seems 
fair for the car but I would like to be closer to 2. I have always wanted a 91 
126 diesel and it does drive very nice. Shifts good, suspension feels good. 
Interior in good shape. Has a few dings here and there. Clean carfax.
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Re: [MBZ] Should I or shouldn't I?

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Just do it

--Nike

On 3/8/15 5:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Looked at a 91 350sd today, odo shows 228k, seller said it worked but I know 
the trip odo did not work and did not notice if the main odo worked. Guy bought 
it off original owner and he has the service records back to new. Appears well 
maintained. Has had a little bid of paint work done on the drivers side. Very 
very clean engine with very little blow by. Asked how much oil it used and he 
says a qt every 3 tanks of fuel, so probably 1500 miles or so. It did not have 
that oil burning smell like I have seen other rod benders have and did not 
smoke. Rear muffler fell off so it needs to be replaced or maybe put back on. 
Noticed some jb weld on oil pan, he said he scraped the oil pan in his driveway 
and it did not crack by just applied it in case it did start leaking. I did not 
observe any leaks. Also needs tires and a couple glow plugs. He is selling it 
because he needs a truck for works. Wants $2500, I offered 2k and he said he 
had to get 2500. Told him I would think about it. It is a

 nice well documented car but not sure if I am being to cheap. 2500 seems fair 
for the car but I would like to be closer to 2. I have always wanted a 91 126 
diesel and it does drive very nice. Shifts good, suspension feels good. 
Interior in good shape. Has a few dings here and there. Clean carfax.


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Re: [MBZ] Now Looking for a Car - Was Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Title is wrong it's a 320 gas

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> On Mar 8, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> Why is it badged as an E320?
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That's a heck of a deal if it's not beat and the miles are correct. Around 
>> here they seem to sell for 6-8k with close to 300k miles
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is my favorite:
>>> 
>>> http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4911331619.html 
>>>  
>>> >> >
>>> 
>>> “Serious injuries only!”
>>> 
>>> Dan
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[MBZ] Should I or shouldn't I?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Looked at a 91 350sd today, odo shows 228k, seller said it worked but I know 
the trip odo did not work and did not notice if the main odo worked. Guy bought 
it off original owner and he has the service records back to new. Appears well 
maintained. Has had a little bid of paint work done on the drivers side. Very 
very clean engine with very little blow by. Asked how much oil it used and he 
says a qt every 3 tanks of fuel, so probably 1500 miles or so. It did not have 
that oil burning smell like I have seen other rod benders have and did not 
smoke. Rear muffler fell off so it needs to be replaced or maybe put back on. 
Noticed some jb weld on oil pan, he said he scraped the oil pan in his driveway 
and it did not crack by just applied it in case it did start leaking. I did not 
observe any leaks. Also needs tires and a couple glow plugs. He is selling it 
because he needs a truck for works. Wants $2500, I offered 2k and he said he 
had to get 2500. Told him I would think about it. It is a n
 ice well documented car but not sure if I am being to cheap. 2500 seems fair 
for the car but I would like to be closer to 2. I have always wanted a 91 126 
diesel and it does drive very nice. Shifts good, suspension feels good. 
Interior in good shape. Has a few dings here and there. Clean carfax.

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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 11:15:57 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Geez glad to hear she is ok. What was she driving? The snook car?

She's banged up, bruised, and sore, but is OK.

She was driving our '95 E320 (the one I bought from Snook). I haven't
seen it, but was told it was rolled multiple times, so I cannot see how
it won't be totaled.

I guess I won't be needing the passenger side mirror from you anymore. :-)

I also won't have to change the transmission fluid, fix the emergency
blinker, or buy new tires for it.

We had a flat tire while we were in Carlsbad and I almost bought a new
set for the car since the Nokian WRG2 tires are down to the wear bars --
having to wait a day for the tire store to get them from Albuquerque or
El Paso stopped that, thankfully.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Now Looking for a Car - Was Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[OK Don via Mercedes]

And he listed it as an E300, not a 320, which also lead to the confusion.

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I got confused with all the diesel talk.  Sorry.
>
> Dan
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Here's a Flipper for Jaime

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I like this part - "The rear muffler has rotted through and sounds
glorious: people pay $$$ to get their car to sound like this."

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You ought to buy that thing and just drive it into the ground as-is.
> Beater money and you could probably part it out and get your dinero back
> easy when time comes to unload it, or unload it and get some of your money
> back.
>
> --R
>
>
>
>
> On 3/8/15 4:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Perfect Jersey car, and cheap, too!
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/181684681681?forcerRptr=true&;
>> item=181684681681&viewitem= > 181684681681?forcerRptr=true&item=181684681681&viewitem=>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Now Looking for a Car - Was Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I got confused with all the diesel talk.  Sorry.

Dan

 
> On Mar 8, 2015, at 5:08 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> 
> Because that's what it is? The info box on the right side says it uses gas ---
> 
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Why is it badged as an E320?
> 
> Dan
> 
> >> http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4911331619.html 
> >>  
> >>  >> >
> 
> 
> 
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> themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] Now Looking for a Car - Was Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Because that's what it is? The info box on the right side says it uses gas
---

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Why is it badged as an E320?
>
> Dan
>
>  >> http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4911331619.html <
> http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4911331619.html>
>



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Re: [MBZ] Here's a Flipper for Jaime

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

You ought to buy that thing and just drive it into the ground as-is.  
Beater money and you could probably part it out and get your dinero back 
easy when time comes to unload it, or unload it and get some of your 
money back.


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On 3/8/15 4:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Perfect Jersey car, and cheap, too!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181684681681?forcerRptr=true&item=181684681681&viewitem= 


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[MBZ] Here's a Flipper for Jaime

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Perfect Jersey car, and cheap, too!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181684681681?forcerRptr=true&item=181684681681&viewitem=
 


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Re: [MBZ] Now Looking for a Car - Was Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Why is it badged as an E320?

Dan


> On Mar 8, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's a heck of a deal if it's not beat and the miles are correct. Around 
> here they seem to sell for 6-8k with close to 300k miles
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > > wrote:
>> 
>> This is my favorite:
>> 
>> http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4911331619.html 
>>  
>> > >
>> 
>> “Serious injuries only!”
>> 
>> Dan
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] Now Looking for a Car - Was Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That's a heck of a deal if it's not beat and the miles are correct. Around here 
they seem to sell for 6-8k with close to 300k miles

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 8, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This is my favorite:
> 
> http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4911331619.html 
> 
> 
> “Serious injuries only!”
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> 
>> Holy.  Those are even scarcer around here than W140s looking at CL.  E300 
>> diesels seem to be plentiful, however.
>> 
>> 
>> http://tampa.craigslist.org/search/cto?sort=rel&autoMakeModel=mercedes&autoMinYear=1990&autoMaxYear=2002&query=mercedes+e300
>> 
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If it were me I would get a e430, its going to have a ton of power and will 
>>> get about the same mileage as the e320. If you can find one e300 diesel is 
>>> really great. I will like the 124 and 140 way better but if you want 
>>> something newer the 210 is hard to beat. Just watch out for rust.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Now Looking for a Car - Was Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

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I would jump on on of those turbos

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> On Mar 8, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Holy.  Those are even scarcer around here than W140s looking at CL.  E300 
> diesels seem to be plentiful, however.
> 
> 
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/search/cto?sort=rel&autoMakeModel=mercedes&autoMinYear=1990&autoMaxYear=2002&query=mercedes+e300
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If it were me I would get a e430, its going to have a ton of power and will 
>> get about the same mileage as the e320. If you can find one e300 diesel is 
>> really great. I will like the 124 and 140 way better but if you want 
>> something newer the 210 is hard to beat. Just watch out for rust.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Now Looking for a Car - Was Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is my favorite:

http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/4911331619.html 


“Serious injuries only!”

Dan


> On Mar 8, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> Holy.  Those are even scarcer around here than W140s looking at CL.  E300 
> diesels seem to be plentiful, however.
> 
> 
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/search/cto?sort=rel&autoMakeModel=mercedes&autoMinYear=1990&autoMaxYear=2002&query=mercedes+e300
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> If it were me I would get a e430, its going to have a ton of power and will 
>> get about the same mileage as the e320. If you can find one e300 diesel is 
>> really great. I will like the 124 and 140 way better but if you want 
>> something newer the 210 is hard to beat. Just watch out for rust.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Now Looking for a Car - Was Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Holy.  Those are even scarcer around here than W140s looking at CL.  E300 
diesels seem to be plentiful, however.


http://tampa.craigslist.org/search/cto?sort=rel&autoMakeModel=mercedes&autoMinYear=1990&autoMaxYear=2002&query=mercedes+e300


Dan



> On Mar 8, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If it were me I would get a e430, its going to have a ton of power and will 
> get about the same mileage as the e320. If you can find one e300 diesel is 
> really great. I will like the 124 and 140 way better but if you want 
> something newer the 210 is hard to beat. Just watch out for rust.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Now Looking for a Car - Was Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

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If it were me I would get a e430, its going to have a ton of power and will get 
about the same mileage as the e320. If you can find one e300 diesel is really 
great. I will like the 124 and 140 way better but if you want something newer 
the 210 is hard to beat. Just watch out for rust.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 8, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I am really jonesing for an early E55, like a 2000 or 2001.  There’s one I 
> like in Portland (OR), but it’s on the high end of my budget and it would 
> cost me another $1000 to get it here.
> 
> There was one in town I wanted to look at, but the guy got in a wreck and it 
> was totaled out.
> 
> These are even harder to find than a nice S500.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You should forget about another 140 and try a 210. While I agree the 140 is 
>> very nice, the 210 is a decent modern car that are much easier to find.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Talked to the guy last week and he was supposed to call me back when he 
>>> could set up a time to see the car.  Haven’t heard back from him….
>>> 
>>> Got a line on a nice one owner S320 in Sarasota with 154k, dealer 
>>> maintained, etc., but I can’t seem to connect with the guy either.  I’ve 
>>> had emails from his daughter who posted the CL ad, but Dad seems to be a 
>>> Luddite when it comes to everything, even phones.
>>> 
>>> Grr.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 8, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 What about that 320 you were talking about?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without a lot 
> of success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the immediate 
> area.  There is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I want but I’m not 
> keen about driving 2+ hours to look at it, as it’s at a dealership…
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Craig,
>> 
>> Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  
>> 
>> Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?  
>> Perhaps leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six engine?  
>> I think nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More and better safety 
>> features, which may be attractive to you.
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95

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Re: [MBZ] Now Looking for a Car - Was Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I am really jonesing for an early E55, like a 2000 or 2001.  There’s one I like 
in Portland (OR), but it’s on the high end of my budget and it would cost me 
another $1000 to get it here.

There was one in town I wanted to look at, but the guy got in a wreck and it 
was totaled out.

These are even harder to find than a nice S500.

Dan

> On Mar 8, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You should forget about another 140 and try a 210. While I agree the 140 is 
> very nice, the 210 is a decent modern car that are much easier to find.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Talked to the guy last week and he was supposed to call me back when he 
>> could set up a time to see the car.  Haven’t heard back from him….
>> 
>> Got a line on a nice one owner S320 in Sarasota with 154k, dealer 
>> maintained, etc., but I can’t seem to connect with the guy either.  I’ve had 
>> emails from his daughter who posted the CL ad, but Dad seems to be a Luddite 
>> when it comes to everything, even phones.
>> 
>> Grr.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What about that 320 you were talking about?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without a lot of 
 success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the immediate area.  
 There is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I want but I’m not keen 
 about driving 2+ hours to look at it, as it’s at a dealership…
 
 Dan
 
 
> On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Craig,
> 
> Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  
> 
> Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?  Perhaps 
> leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six engine?  I think 
> nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More and better safety 
> features, which may be attractive to you.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
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Re: [MBZ] BMW carpet set

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Impressive!  Keep up the good work!

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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

You should forget about another 140 and try a 210. While I agree the 140 is 
very nice, the 210 is a decent modern car that are much easier to find.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Talked to the guy last week and he was supposed to call me back when he could 
> set up a time to see the car.  Haven’t heard back from him….
> 
> Got a line on a nice one owner S320 in Sarasota with 154k, dealer maintained, 
> etc., but I can’t seem to connect with the guy either.  I’ve had emails from 
> his daughter who posted the CL ad, but Dad seems to be a Luddite when it 
> comes to everything, even phones.
> 
> Grr.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What about that 320 you were talking about?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without a lot of 
>>> success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the immediate area.  
>>> There is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I want but I’m not keen about 
>>> driving 2+ hours to look at it, as it’s at a dealership…
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Craig,
 
 Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  
 
 Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?  Perhaps 
 leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six engine?  I think 
 nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More and better safety features, 
 which may be attractive to you.
 -- 
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Black socks with sandals!  And don't forget to schedule your haircut, 
doctor visit, bank visit, grocery run, pharmacy run, and other errands 
on different days so you have something to do, just enough to justify 
the nap after the errands.


I told my kids if I ever get to that point they have my permission to 
take me out to the woods and tie me to a tree.  It's in my living will.


--R



On 3/8/15 1:25 PM, WILTON wrote:
Washin' the Bermuda shorts and black socks and watchin' the clock for 
the early bird specials.  ;<)


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck


That's what happens when you are trying to buy Florida geezermobiles 
from old retired Yankees


--R



On 3/8/15 12:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Talked to the guy last week and he was supposed to call me back when 
he could set up a time to see the car.  Haven’t heard back from him….


Got a line on a nice one owner S320 in Sarasota with 154k, dealer 
maintained, etc., but I can’t seem to connect with the guy either.  
I’ve had emails from his daughter who posted the CL ad, but Dad 
seems to be a Luddite when it comes to everything, even phones.


Grr.

Dan


On Mar 8, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:


What about that 320 you were talking about?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without 
a lot of success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the 
immediate area.  There is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I 
want but I’m not keen about driving 2+ hours to look at it, as 
it’s at a dealership…


Dan


On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Craig,

Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?

Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan? 
Perhaps leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six 
engine?  I think nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More 
and better safety features, which may be attractive to you.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Washin' the Bermuda shorts and black socks and watchin' the clock for the 
early bird specials.  ;<)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck


That's what happens when you are trying to buy Florida geezermobiles from 
old retired Yankees


--R



On 3/8/15 12:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Talked to the guy last week and he was supposed to call me back when he 
could set up a time to see the car.  Haven’t heard back from him….


Got a line on a nice one owner S320 in Sarasota with 154k, dealer 
maintained, etc., but I can’t seem to connect with the guy either.  I’ve 
had emails from his daughter who posted the CL ad, but Dad seems to be a 
Luddite when it comes to everything, even phones.


Grr.

Dan


On Mar 8, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:


What about that 320 you were talking about?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without a lot 
of success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the immediate 
area.  There is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I want but I’m not 
keen about driving 2+ hours to look at it, as it’s at a dealership…


Dan


On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Craig,

Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?

Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan? 
Perhaps leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six 
engine?  I think nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More and 
better safety features, which may be attractive to you.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I remain convinced that the time SWMBA was forced off the freeway
in the SL, had she been in the X5 it would have rolled.  The 107
is low, wide, and heavy, and did not flip.  There was a lot of
crap wedged between the tires and the rims, and a water jug in
the trunk was split.  Lot of sideways forces at play there,
she did a 360 before coming to a stop.  Much prefer yaw to
roll!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

That's what happens when you are trying to buy Florida geezermobiles 
from old retired Yankees


--R



On 3/8/15 12:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Talked to the guy last week and he was supposed to call me back when he could 
set up a time to see the car.  Haven’t heard back from him….

Got a line on a nice one owner S320 in Sarasota with 154k, dealer maintained, 
etc., but I can’t seem to connect with the guy either.  I’ve had emails from 
his daughter who posted the CL ad, but Dad seems to be a Luddite when it comes 
to everything, even phones.

Grr.

Dan



On Mar 8, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

What about that 320 you were talking about?

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without a lot of 
success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the immediate area.  There 
is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I want but I’m not keen about driving 
2+ hours to look at it, as it’s at a dealership…

Dan



On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
wrote:

Craig,

Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?

Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?  Perhaps leap 
forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six engine?  I think nice 
examples start at about $14k or so.  More and better safety features, which may 
be attractive to you.
--
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Talked to the guy last week and he was supposed to call me back when he could 
set up a time to see the car.  Haven’t heard back from him….

Got a line on a nice one owner S320 in Sarasota with 154k, dealer maintained, 
etc., but I can’t seem to connect with the guy either.  I’ve had emails from 
his daughter who posted the CL ad, but Dad seems to be a Luddite when it comes 
to everything, even phones.

Grr.

Dan


> On Mar 8, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What about that 320 you were talking about?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without a lot of 
>> success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the immediate area.  
>> There is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I want but I’m not keen about 
>> driving 2+ hours to look at it, as it’s at a dealership…
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Craig,
>>> 
>>> Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  
>>> 
>>> Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?  Perhaps 
>>> leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six engine?  I think 
>>> nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More and better safety features, 
>>> which may be attractive to you.
>>> -- 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> '87 300TD
>>> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

What about that 320 you were talking about?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without a lot of 
> success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the immediate area.  
> There is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I want but I’m not keen about 
> driving 2+ hours to look at it, as it’s at a dealership…
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Craig,
>> 
>> Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  
>> 
>> Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?  Perhaps 
>> leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six engine?  I think 
>> nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More and better safety features, 
>> which may be attractive to you.
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Geez glad to hear she is ok. What was she driving? The snook car?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2015, at 11:51 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Long as Shirley's okeh, the rest is gravy.  (sends good vibes along)
> 
> -MMM-
> 
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Craig McCluskey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I had hoped to send out an Update email describing all that has been
>> going on with us and what we think the Lord will have us do to get to
>> Indiana, but I have waiting at a truck service center here in Albuquerque
>> for Shirley to come down from Los Alamos to pick me up and just got a call
>> that she was involved in a roll-over accident on the Coors offramp from
>> I-40.
>> 
>> I do know that Shirley is OK; I talked with her on our cell phone. An
>> Albuquerque Police Detective came on the phone and said he would send a
>> squad car over to pick me up.
>> 
>> I called Charlie Bell of our church and he is initiating some help from
>> the church people.
>> 
>> Your prayers are greatly coveted.
>> 
>> God bless,
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 124 front lower control arms

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Doh!
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'95 E300

On March 8, 2015 12:05:12 PM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>You should remember those bolts are ECcentric.  The mnemonic is that 
>they are like most of us on this list.
>
>--R
>

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Re: [MBZ] I buy a 1985 300CD

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

It worked that time.  It is the maroon colored car?  I love that color.

--R



On 3/7/15 7:54 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
Tap the skip button, or whatever it says, to get past it... no need to 
download an app to view stuff on flickr. Although they do have an app.


Jaime


On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


That link wants me to download an app for my phone and to sign in,
does not go to your photos.

--R




On 3/7/15 2:47 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

Its been a while since I've driven an 1985 car powered by an
OM617a...  I
never owned one, but I've driven several and was alway
impressed.  I always
considered a 1985 W123 to be the most refined of the bunch,
and therefore
the most desirable.

I've heard a few folks on the list here say they avoid the
last model year
for various reasons, but I don't really understand why.  Sure
there are a
few more vacuum lines under the hood, but no more than found
on 1986-
cars.  Acceleration off the line is outstanding, the
transmission shifts
better than earlier cars, and the lower geared rear makes for
a better
highway cruise.

I just brought this home:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16743796931/in/photostream/

A 1985, 240k miles... a bit high for my tastes, but its second
owner bough
the car in 1990 and has always serviced it at the dealer.  Its
had lots of
work done and really drives nicely.  Of course, a few things
to sort out
still... but a great car with original paint, super clean in
terms of rust,
always garaged in NYC.

Jaime





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Re: [MBZ] 124 front lower control arms

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

You should remember those bolts are ECcentric.  The mnemonic is that 
they are like most of us on this list.


--R



On 3/8/15 11:48 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Dieselvolk,

Yesterday I started the job of replacing the bushings in the front lower
control arms on my '87 wagon, aka The White Whale.  It has developed a
steady pull to the right as I've been driving it over the last couple
months.  I took it to a local garage to see about an alignment, but the
technician took one look at those bushings and declined.  He was very
concerned that the bushings were too far gone and would not even allow the
concentric bolts to turn properly.

Well, I should have pushed him to at least try to align the car.  I sprayed
some PB Blaster on all the nuts / bolts that needed to come loose, and then
proceeded to try some of  the nicer looking examples on the right side.  I
found that both inner bushings concentric adjustment bolts were loose.  The
bolt for the rear bushing was REALLY loose and could easily move all over
the place.  Clearly the last alignment tech had not properly torqued them,
and so they came loose and subsequently the front end went out of alignment.

They did look awful (the outer visible edge that is), and I'd already
purchased new bushings from the MB Classic Center ($137 per side for the
kit which included new bushings and the replacement one-time-use nuts), so
I decided to proceed.  After another few hours and using Rich's spring
compressor and a sawz-all clone from Harbor Freight, I had both bushings
out.  Internally, they looked (and probably worked) fine.  The rubber had
plenty of life to it, and there was no corrosion at all inside the sleeves
of the lower control arm.

I'm going to wire-wheel the rust off the outside of the control arm, get
some black rustoleum paint on it, and put her all back together.  Probably
finish up right side next weekend, unless I get some time after work this
coming week.




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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without a lot of 
success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the immediate area.  There 
is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I want but I’m not keen about driving 
2+ hours to look at it, as it’s at a dealership…

Dan


> On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Craig,
> 
> Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  
> 
> Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?  Perhaps 
> leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six engine?  I think nice 
> examples start at about $14k or so.  More and better safety features, which 
> may be attractive to you.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
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[MBZ] 124 front lower control arms

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Dieselvolk,

Yesterday I started the job of replacing the bushings in the front lower
control arms on my '87 wagon, aka The White Whale.  It has developed a
steady pull to the right as I've been driving it over the last couple
months.  I took it to a local garage to see about an alignment, but the
technician took one look at those bushings and declined.  He was very
concerned that the bushings were too far gone and would not even allow the
concentric bolts to turn properly.

Well, I should have pushed him to at least try to align the car.  I sprayed
some PB Blaster on all the nuts / bolts that needed to come loose, and then
proceeded to try some of  the nicer looking examples on the right side.  I
found that both inner bushings concentric adjustment bolts were loose.  The
bolt for the rear bushing was REALLY loose and could easily move all over
the place.  Clearly the last alignment tech had not properly torqued them,
and so they came loose and subsequently the front end went out of alignment.

They did look awful (the outer visible edge that is), and I'd already
purchased new bushings from the MB Classic Center ($137 per side for the
kit which included new bushings and the replacement one-time-use nuts), so
I decided to proceed.  After another few hours and using Rich's spring
compressor and a sawz-all clone from Harbor Freight, I had both bushings
out.  Internally, they looked (and probably worked) fine.  The rubber had
plenty of life to it, and there was no corrosion at all inside the sleeves
of the lower control arm.

I'm going to wire-wheel the rust off the outside of the control arm, get
some black rustoleum paint on it, and put her all back together.  Probably
finish up right side next weekend, unless I get some time after work this
coming week.

-- 
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Craig,

Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  

Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?  Perhaps leap 
forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six engine?  I think nice 
examples start at about $14k or so.  More and better safety features, which may 
be attractive to you.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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