[MBZ] Rolling, Rolling, Rolling.....

[redghost--- via Mercedes]

The OM617 had been sitting on the hoist, blocking my garage door for the past 
week. I had tried to use a garbage harbour fright dolly, but it just shattered 
when the engine was lowered on to it. 

I made my own out of a few scrap 2x14 and some 2x6. HF got the trashed dolly 
and I got some spare cash out of it. I purchased their 5.25" casters for my 
wheels. Once all bolted up, I rolled the thing under the now raised motor and 
learned it would slide just over the legs! Dropped it down and pulled the dolly 
away. That was totally cool. I pulled the SL out of the garage and grunted 
enough to get the dolly, with motor, tucked against the wall with enough room 
to pull a car in alongside. 

I am happy. 

The local show and shine was yesterday. I took Polei, but garnered no awards. 
The fellow I sold a Hirschmann to a few weeks back did win the B class 
(1980-1999) second place. I got him to sign up when I helped him install the 
antenna, which gave him two weeks to make his 560SEL into a very lovely example 
of the Marque. 

Photos of Polei will be posted to BW. 

clay 
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Re: [MBZ] OT cpap machines

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

SWMBO. What do ya need to know?

Rick
  Original Message
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Subject: [MBZ] OT cpap machines


Any of you old people dealt with these?  It appears Im going to have to
get one.


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Re: [MBZ] OT cpap machines

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

If you get one with good data logging, you can view the results on a computer. 
Like my Resmed Airsense 10 Autoset.

If it senses and responds to your Apnea/Hypoapnea events, you can adjust the 
prescription over time for the best results. I was prescribed 9-12 CM of water 
for pressure levels. I ended up setting it as a CPAP instead of an autopap, 7cm 
works perfectly for me. When I went in for my 3 month checkup and they took the 
SD card out of my machine, the doctor came in a while later, and said "has 
anybody changed the settings on your machine?"
(you can see every RX change and when it was made, and I'd made a lot of them 
as I was zeroing in on the best pressure).
I told him that twice in the first week I woke up with the pressure at 12, my 
mouth open, air rushing in my nose and out my mouth, none going to  my lungs, 
feeling like I was going to die. After the 2nd time I lowered the max pressure 
out of self defense. He just said it looked like it was working great where I 
had it set, he wished every patient was that engaged in their treatment. 

If you travel a lot, it's good to have a small machine, like mine. 
If you sleep away from the power grid, it's good to have one that runs on 12v, 
unlike mine which runs on 24 volt and needs a power adapter to run off a car 
battery. 

Back in October, my machine was considered the best one on the market. Well, 
the AS 10 for her is slightly better, it has his and hers modes, some people, 
male and female, get better results with the female response curves, the normal 
model just has the manly mode, the female model (white instead of black 
housing) has both modes and costs the same. 
If you want a specific machine, just have your Dr prescribe that exact thing. 
My Rx is for an auto responding machine with data logging, and my DME (durable 
medical equipment supplier) supplied me with the exact machine I was going to 
ask them for (I didn't know about the for her model then).  

My dad got a new machine last month, he has Cheney-Stokes and had a $3900 VPAP, 
his new one is a special version of my machine that's a step above VPAP but 
only costs about $1700. 

Mine is price-fixed at $883, but if your insurance isn't paying for the whole 
thing you can find demos/open box/etc for around $500. My insurance pays the 
DME $76 a month for ten months on a rent to own plan, after ten months I own 
it. Final payment should have been a couple of weeks ago, I suppose I should 
call them and verify it's mine now. 
They're supposed to supply everything needed to keep it running while I'm 
renting it, but the jerks would only give me what the insurance company will 
let them bill extra for, they wanted me to pay them for air filters because 
they were supposed to be included in the rent but they wanted to be paid extra 
for them, so I just bought extra filters online. If my insco wasn't paying less 
than list for the thing I would have made an official complaint over trying to 
bill me for filters. 

The top two discussion forums are 
http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/
http://www.cpaptalk.com/CPAP-Sleep-Apnea-Forum.html

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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 22:35:36 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Do you still have the hard shifting? If so you have a vacuum leak and
> probably do not have full power out of the turbo.

I found a vacuum hose underneath the area where the cruise actuator
mounts that was loose. I reconnected it and the shifts are better.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 23:19:35 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> > On August 14, 2017 at 11:13 PM Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
>  
> > And to keep the transmission from going 4-3-4-3-4-3-4-3 ... as we
> > drive up the hill.
> > 
> 
> So, is that a design flaw or the result of making less power than when
> new? If an auto trans shifts up when current power demand is more than
> what's available in the next gear, it's flawed. 

No, it's a function of the topography of the hill, with its constantly
varying slope. The car has enough power in fourth to go up a part of the
hill until the slope increases, which requires a downshift to third.
Then, when the slope decreases, it upshifts to fourth and continues on
until the slope increases again.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT cpap machines

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 22:36:57 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Any of you old people dealt with these?  It appears Im going to have to 
> get one.

I have had older friends who use them, but have no personal experience
with them.


Craig

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[MBZ] OT cpap machines

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Any of you old people dealt with these?  It appears Im going to have to 
get one.



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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Do you still have the hard shifting? If so you have a vacuum leak and probably 
do not have full power out of the turbo.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2017, at 10:13 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 21:51:55 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On August 14, 2017 at 8:22 PM Craig via Mercedes
>>>  wrote: I normally downshift to keep the speed
>>> at 65 mph.
>> 
>> There's such a thing as a hill (I forget, is this a W124 2.5?) that you
>> can't just leave the cruise set at 65 and drive up it?
> 
> I have not yet installed the cruise control actuator Kaleb sent, so I
> cannot say.
> 
> 
>> Or you know the car will downshift, so you're trying to save wear on
>> the trans by doing the shift under light load instead of in the middle
>> of the hillclimb?
> 
> And to keep the transmission from going 4-3-4-3-4-3-4-3 ... as we drive
> up the hill.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 14, 2017 at 11:13 PM Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
 
> And to keep the transmission from going 4-3-4-3-4-3-4-3 ... as we drive
> up the hill.
> 

So, is that a design flaw or the result of making less power than when new? 
If an auto trans shifts up when current power demand is more than what's 
available in the next gear, it's flawed. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] '98 Porsche Boxster 5 speed on BAT

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

His signature says 1974, so after big bumpers and before 911SC.
Maybe shoulda bought a 73?
Mitch. 
> On August 14, 2017 at 11:10 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> What vintage 911?
>

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Re: [MBZ] '98 Porsche Boxster 5 speed on BAT

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 23:01:00 -0400 Larry Turner via Mercedes
 wrote:

> They will go through money like June bugs through a goose.

An interesting metaphor!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 21:51:55 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> > On August 14, 2017 at 8:22 PM Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote: I normally downshift to keep the speed
> > at 65 mph.
> 
> There's such a thing as a hill (I forget, is this a W124 2.5?) that you
> can't just leave the cruise set at 65 and drive up it?

I have not yet installed the cruise control actuator Kaleb sent, so I
cannot say.


> Or you know the car will downshift, so you're trying to save wear on
> the trans by doing the shift under light load instead of in the middle
> of the hillclimb?

And to keep the transmission from going 4-3-4-3-4-3-4-3 ... as we drive
up the hill.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 21:40:32 -0400 MG via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Yeah I do believe it is Sun Valley.
> 
> As for having to manually down shift. Doesn't the transmission do 
> that for itself?

Yes, it will if I engage the kickdown switch. But then when the slope
decreases slightly, it upshifts again. Then when the slope increases,
I have to engage the kickdown switch again. That repeats several times
as we drive up the hill.


> If it didn't I would have looked at that a long time ago. With my 123's
> going up a hill if I want to go faster I just push harder on the
> peddle. It will either go faster in fourth or downshift and go faster.
> Might be that there was something wrong with it for a long time and is
> finally letting you know that it's time to get a rebuilt?

That I don't know.


> Is that the big hill on that multilane highway (40?) going east 
> from Albuquerque?

Yes, it's I-40 east of Albuquerque. The hill in question is the one
before the Sedillo exit (Exit 181).


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] '98 Porsche Boxster 5 speed on BAT

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What vintage 911?

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It depends on how well it's been maintained.  A cheap Porsche is like a
> cheap Mercedes.  All Boxsters have gas engines and the early ones are not
> especially in demand.   This is because for a few more $$s you can get more
> HP.  Do your homework before you start thinking about flipping one.  They
> will go through money like June bugs through a goose.   But they handle
> like they're on rails, are quiet and have plenty of power.   There are
> dozens of pages of research/road test available on line.  I love my 911 but
> it's not a Boxster.
>
> LarryT
> 91 300D
> 74 911
>
> On 08/14/2017 12:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Meade - what's the Boxster like to fdrive?
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dan says:
>>>
>>> ‎ The Porch community seems to revile >the Boxsters. Sort of like the C

>>> class MBs, >maybe?
>>>
>>> Exactly.
>>> They hated the 924 for similar reasons.
>>> Purists never cared for ‎the entry level cars.
>>>
>>> Rick
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[MBZ] What Makes Synthetic Oil Better?

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a12007368/what-makes-synthetic-oil-better/

The above might help with the recent thread about oil in general and 
synthetic particularly.


LarryT
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Oil Analysis' are like Blood Test for your engine!
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Re: [MBZ] '98 Porsche Boxster 5 speed on BAT

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

It depends on how well it's been maintained.  A cheap Porsche is like a 
cheap Mercedes.  All Boxsters have gas engines and the early ones are 
not especially in demand.   This is because for a few more $$s you can 
get more HP.  Do your homework before you start thinking about flipping 
one.  They will go through money like June bugs through a goose.   But 
they handle like they're on rails, are quiet and have plenty of power.   
There are dozens of pages of research/road test available on line.  I 
love my 911 but it's not a Boxster.


LarryT
91 300D
74 911

On 08/14/2017 12:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Meade - what's the Boxster like to fdrive?

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Dan says:


‎ The Porch community seems to revile >the Boxsters. Sort of like the C

class MBs, >maybe?

Exactly.
They hated the 924 for similar reasons.
Purists never cared for ‎the entry level cars.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 14, 2017 at 8:22 PM Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> I normally downshift to keep the speed at 65 mph.

There's such a thing as a hill (I forget, is this a W124 2.5?) that you can't 
just leave the cruise set at 65 and drive up it?

Or you know the car will downshift, so you're trying to save wear on the trans 
by doing the shift under light load instead of in the middle of the hillclimb?

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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[MG via Mercedes]

Yeah I do believe it is Sun Valley.

As for having to manually down shift. Doesn't the transmission do 
that for itself? If it didn't I would have looked at that a long 
time ago. With my 123's going up a hill if I want to go faster I 
just push harder on the peddle. It will either go faster in 
fourth or downshift and go faster. Might be that there was 
something wrong with it for a long time and is finally letting 
you know that it's time to get a rebuilt?


Is that the big hill on that multilane highway (40?) going east 
from Albuquerque? I don't remember having much of a problem going 
up that in June's 4cyl pickup. Course that was a few years ago 
and we only went up that twice I think. I probably forgot about 
it slowing down, but then again I did have to keep up with John 
who was driving his V10 diesel Turag so we were probably doing 
around 70 or more. He loves pushing that thing.


Manfred

Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 18:53:25 -0400 MG via Mercedes
 wrote:

OK Do you normally do a manual downshift on that hill or was this 
something that you did because the engine wasn't putting out 
enough power this time vs doing ok all the other times till this 
time?


I normally downshift to keep the speed at 65 mph.


Not really any help in fixing your transmission problem but 
trying to get all the info I can.


I understand. Thank you for your effort to help me.


Does anyone know if Craig's car has the electronic part in the 
transmission? If so could it be a problem in that part? If not 
then trying to break loose a stuck valve may work. My thought is 
that if this was an isolated first time thing of doing a manual 
downshift then there might have been some crud broken loose in 
the valve body that is keeping one or more of the valves from 
operating the way they should because it got jammed.


No, I regularly down-shifted the transmission manually, particularly when
going up that specific hill.



You might  try hand shifting up and down doing the shifts at first at
lower RPMs and then if that doesn't work run the snot out of it and 
make it shift only at the upper limit of the shift range both up 
and down. The faster the engine turns, the more pressure builds 
up and sometimes stuck valves will come loose when the harder 
shock of that high RPM shift hits them. If nothing else works 
that might. If not then it may need to have the valve body come 
out and be gone through.


Oh.


Another thought is to try calling the guys in California and see 
what they have to say.


That did come to mind. Sun Valley, isn't it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 91 300D W124 Vacuum DIagram?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes

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> On Aug 14, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Its a 124, don't those all have a separate pump for the locks? I know the 
> 201s did...
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, August 14, 2017, 3:54:00 PM PDT, MG via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Look in the sections for climate control and the central locking 
> system, unless it has a separate electric pump to do the locks.
> 
> MG
> 
> Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> There's a vacuum problem stopping the engine from shutting down when 
>> the key is turned off.  Is there a diagram somewhere? I have looked 
>> through the 2 CDs in my WSM but no luck.
>> 
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> LarryT
>> 91 300D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 18:53:25 -0400 MG via Mercedes
 wrote:

> OK Do you normally do a manual downshift on that hill or was this 
> something that you did because the engine wasn't putting out 
> enough power this time vs doing ok all the other times till this 
> time?

I normally downshift to keep the speed at 65 mph.


> Not really any help in fixing your transmission problem but 
> trying to get all the info I can.

I understand. Thank you for your effort to help me.


> Does anyone know if Craig's car has the electronic part in the 
> transmission? If so could it be a problem in that part? If not 
> then trying to break loose a stuck valve may work. My thought is 
> that if this was an isolated first time thing of doing a manual 
> downshift then there might have been some crud broken loose in 
> the valve body that is keeping one or more of the valves from 
> operating the way they should because it got jammed.

No, I regularly down-shifted the transmission manually, particularly when
going up that specific hill.


> You might  try hand shifting up and down doing the shifts at first at
> lower RPMs and then if that doesn't work run the snot out of it and 
> make it shift only at the upper limit of the shift range both up 
> and down. The faster the engine turns, the more pressure builds 
> up and sometimes stuck valves will come loose when the harder 
> shock of that high RPM shift hits them. If nothing else works 
> that might. If not then it may need to have the valve body come 
> out and be gone through.

Oh.


> Another thought is to try calling the guys in California and see 
> what they have to say.

That did come to mind. Sun Valley, isn't it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 91 300D W124 Vacuum DIagram?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That's a good possibility!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 14, 2017 8:03:37 PM EDT, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>
>
>But ya know, it just dawned on me,  last Dec I had some problems with
>my 
>GPs - also had difficulty installing the manifold and getting good 
>electrical to the GPs.  I recall removing the manifold again and 
>reinstalling it so I would be sure to get the stands set properly.  
>Maybe that's when I disturbed the Vacuum Lines??
>Sound familiar? ;-)
>

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Re: [MBZ] 91 300D W124 Vacuum DIagram?

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

Thanks Gang!  You've given me some detective work to do!  I am getting 
better and can stand a bit now using my walker.  I'll see what I can 
find during the next few days -


Max - re- pulling a vacuum on the shutoff valve - maybe I looked at it 
wrong in the past but I always found it hard to track any vac lines near 
the shutoff valve except for the ones on the side between the shutoff 
and the windscreen washer fluid reservoir. The vac lines on the top/rear 
are so crammed in they're hard to work with.


But ya know, it just dawned on me,  last Dec I had some problems with my 
GPs - also had difficulty installing the manifold and getting good 
electrical to the GPs.  I recall removing the manifold again and 
reinstalling it so I would be sure to get the stands set properly.  
Maybe that's when I disturbed the Vacuum Lines??

Sound familiar? ;-)

Larry

On 08/14/2017 7:31 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

Brown line is the supply to the switch, brown with a blue stripe is the line to 
the servo.  Line goes from the four way T at the front of the engine to the 
left fender and hence to the switch on the keyswitch.  Servo line comes out of 
the dash by the fuse box, I think, and to the servo.

Three things can happen:

Broken line (usually the hard plastic one in the engine compartment on the 
supply side) or some other supply failure -- there is a restriction at the pump 
for the control servos, so a big leak anywhere will leave you with no vac for 
shutdown.  Can also be a cracked servo hard line, or a failed rubber connector 
on the servo.

Bad servo on the IP (or broken line between switch and servo)

Bad column switch (very rare, I've only seen one and that was on my brother '75 
300D)

Typically you will find a cracked hard plastic line, they get really brittle.  
Often get broken when you do something on the IP side of the engine, like 
change the fuel filter.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 91 300D W124 Vacuum DIagram?

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Brown line is the supply to the switch, brown with a blue stripe is the line to 
the servo.  Line goes from the four way T at the front of the engine to the 
left fender and hence to the switch on the keyswitch.  Servo line comes out of 
the dash by the fuse box, I think, and to the servo.

Three things can happen:

Broken line (usually the hard plastic one in the engine compartment on the 
supply side) or some other supply failure -- there is a restriction at the pump 
for the control servos, so a big leak anywhere will leave you with no vac for 
shutdown.  Can also be a cracked servo hard line, or a failed rubber connector 
on the servo.

Bad servo on the IP (or broken line between switch and servo)

Bad column switch (very rare, I've only seen one and that was on my brother '75 
300D)

Typically you will find a cracked hard plastic line, they get really brittle.  
Often get broken when you do something on the IP side of the engine, like 
change the fuel filter.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 91 300D W124 Vacuum DIagram?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Door locks are a separate circuit powered by a pump under the rear seat, no 
need to look there.

Check under the hood that the vacuum connections are all in place.  I believe 
there is a vacuum diagram on a sticker on the radiator support.

How well do the brakes work?

Vacuum shut off valve working?  Your mouth should provide enough suction to 
pull the stop lever down.
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Re: [MBZ] 91 300D W124 Vacuum DIagram?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Its a 124, don't those all have a separate pump for the locks? I know the 201s 
did...
-Curt

On Monday, August 14, 2017, 3:54:00 PM PDT, MG via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Look in the sections for climate control and the central locking 
system, unless it has a separate electric pump to do the locks.

MG

Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote:
> Hi All,
>    There's a vacuum problem stopping the engine from shutting down when 
> the key is turned off.  Is there a diagram somewhere? I have looked 
> through the 2 CDs in my WSM but no luck.
> 
>    Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> LarryT
> 91 300D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Check engine light comes and goes

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I figured that. I just thought I'd see if someone had experienced this
before.

Bob R


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> Nobody can tell you the story without hooking up the laptop to it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > My W210 (98 E300 D) comes on and it'll stay on for a couple of days and
> then it goes out for a couple of days. When the light is out, the car runs
> as normal. Good performance everything feels normal. When the check engine
> light is on, it feels like the turbo is not working. And not only that, I
> have dropped about four MPG on my normal driving. What's the story?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 91 300D W124 Vacuum DIagram?

[MG via Mercedes]

Look in the sections for climate control and the central locking 
system, unless it has a separate electric pump to do the locks.


MG

Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote:

Hi All,
There's a vacuum problem stopping the engine from shutting down when 
the key is turned off.  Is there a diagram somewhere? I have looked 
through the 2 CDs in my WSM but no luck.


Any ideas?

Thanks,
LarryT
91 300D


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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[MG via Mercedes]

OK Do you normally do a manual downshift on that hill or was this 
something that you did because the engine wasn't putting out 
enough power this time vs doing ok all the other times till this 
time?


Not really any help in fixing your transmission problem but 
trying to get all the info I can.


Does anyone know if Craig's car has the electronic part in the 
transmission? If so could it be a problem in that part? I not 
then trying to break loose a stuck valve may work. My thought is 
that if this was an isolated first time thing of doing a manual 
downshift then there might have been some crud broken loose in 
the valve body that is keeping one or more of the valves from 
operating the way they should because it got jammed. You might 
try hand shifting up and down doing the shifts at first at lower 
RPMs and then if that doesn't work run the snot out of it and 
make it shift only at the upper limit of the shift range both up 
and down. The faster the engine turns, the more pressure builds 
up and sometimes stuck valves will come loose when the harder 
shock of that high RPM shift hits them. If nothing else works 
that might. If not then it may need to have the valve body come 
out and be gone through.


Another thought is to try calling the guys in California and see 
what they have to say.


MG


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On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 08:31:55 -0400 MG via Mercedes
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Please describe "the engine stopped running correctly". Just loss 
of power or actually misfiring and dropped cylinders?


Loss of power, but I think I fixed that with replacing the prefilter.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Check engine light comes and goes

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Nobody can tell you the story without hooking up the laptop to it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My W210 (98 E300 D) comes on and it'll stay on for a couple of days and then 
> it goes out for a couple of days. When the light is out, the car runs as 
> normal. Good performance everything feels normal. When the check engine light 
> is on, it feels like the turbo is not working. And not only that, I have 
> dropped about four MPG on my normal driving. What's the story? 
> 
> Bob R
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[MBZ] 91 300D W124 Vacuum DIagram?

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

Hi All,
There's a vacuum problem stopping the engine from shutting down 
when the key is turned off.  Is there a diagram somewhere? I have looked 
through the 2 CDs in my WSM but no luck.


Any ideas?

Thanks,
LarryT
91 300D


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Re: [MBZ] Guns (was Saturday Stuff)

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

We need a spirited discussion about OIL!  ;-)  Or maybe Gun Oil?
LarryT
91 300D

On 08/12/2017 5:06 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, somehow we got off guns and into joint replacement and bicycling

-
Max
Charleston SC

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Drifting off subject.  N



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Re: [MBZ] Check engine light comes and goes

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Swing by a FLAPS and have them put a code reader on it.  Might reveal what the 
problem is…

-D


> On Aug 14, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My W210 (98 E300 D) comes on and it'll stay on for a couple of days and then 
> it goes out for a couple of days. When the light is out, the car runs as 
> normal. Good performance everything feels normal. When the check engine light 
> is on, it feels like the turbo is not working. And not only that, I have 
> dropped about four MPG on my normal driving. What's the story? 
> 
> Bob R
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[MBZ] Check engine light comes and goes

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

My W210 (98 E300 D) comes on and it'll stay on for a couple of days and then it 
goes out for a couple of days. When the light is out, the car runs as normal. 
Good performance everything feels normal. When the check engine light is on, it 
feels like the turbo is not working. And not only that, I have dropped about 
four MPG on my normal driving. What's the story? 

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I had the same symptoms in my '83 300TD - loss of power going uphill.
Changed the main fuel filter - problem solved.

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 08:31:55 -0400 MG via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Please describe "the engine stopped running correctly". Just loss
> > of power or actually misfiring and dropped cylinders?
>
> Loss of power, but I think I fixed that with replacing the prefilter.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 08:31:55 -0400 MG via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Please describe "the engine stopped running correctly". Just loss 
> of power or actually misfiring and dropped cylinders?

Loss of power, but I think I fixed that with replacing the prefilter.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] '98 Porsche Boxster 5 speed on BAT

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

No idea, haven't had the pleasure yet.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> Meade - what's the Boxster like to fdrive?
>
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Re: [MBZ] '98 Porsche Boxster 5 speed on BAT

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Meade - what's the Boxster like to fdrive?

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> Dan says:
>
> >‎ The Porch community seems to revile >the Boxsters. Sort of like the C
> class MBs, >maybe?
>
> Exactly.
> They hated the 924 for similar reasons.
> Purists never cared for ‎the entry level cars.
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Re: [MBZ] '98 Porsche Boxster 5 speed on BAT

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Dan says:

>‎ The Porch community seems to revile >the Boxsters. Sort of like the C class 
>MBs, >maybe?

Exactly.
They hated the 924 for similar reasons. 
Purists never cared for ‎the entry level cars.

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Re: [MBZ] '98 Porsche Boxster 5 speed on BAT

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I'd love to pick up a Cayman some day, those are truly gorgeous.  Years ago
I knew a fellow who picked up an early Boxster very cheap because it had
several nearly invisible paint flaws the drove the perfectionist original
owner nuts.  They were only visible in bright sunlight, but totally ruined
the car for the guy.  IIRC the car was two or three years old and the price
was like $15k for a car that was $50k new or somesuch.  I was truly shocked
and immediately petitioned the Chairman of the Finance Committee for money
to get mine, but got nowhere.  Recently a neighbor bought one for about $4k
I think, it had major paint issues but otherwise was very nice.  Looked
like it was never washed or waxed and left out until the clear coat failed.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> OK so add $800 to transport back to the east coast and double your money.
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Curt Raymond 
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] '98 Porsche Boxster 5 speed on BAT

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OK so add $800 to transport back to the east coast and double your money.

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Might be the location, lots of those in So Cal...
>
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Re: [MBZ] '98 Porsche Boxster 5 speed on BAT

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Might be the location, lots of those in So Cal...

Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   I had no idea these were so 
cheap/uncollectible.

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Re: [MBZ] '98 Porsche Boxster 5 speed on BAT

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These along with the Caymans in a few more years.  The Porch community seems to 
revile the Boxsters. Sort of like the C class MBs, maybe?

-D


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[MBZ] '98 Porsche Boxster 5 speed on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I had no idea these were so cheap/uncollectible.

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Re: [MBZ] Heck!

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Coup de grace?  (license plate)

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
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> Couo de grace?
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> Seems that these were popular in Egypt for some reason. Considering the
>> way people drive there, I can sort of understand it.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 14, 2017, at 8:21 AM, MG via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > There is also one not quite as spendy there.
>> >
>> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-AMG-S-SL-W126-280-380-
>> 500-SACEX-Heackblende-NOS-RARE/282609911975?_trkparms=
>> aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%
>> 3Db35df9c31c6a453187d7063d29125af3%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D1%2
>> 6rkt%3D2%26sd%3D122647656287&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
>> >
>> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> >> If you know what these are you’ll be stunned at the price:
>> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/122647656287?ul_noapp=true
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Re: [MBZ] Heck!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Couo de grace?

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Seems that these were popular in Egypt for some reason. Considering the
> way people drive there, I can sort of understand it.
>
> -D
>
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> > On Aug 14, 2017, at 8:21 AM, MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > There is also one not quite as spendy there.
> >
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-AMG-S-SL-W126-
> 280-380-500-SACEX-Heackblende-NOS-RARE/282609911975?_
> trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%
> 3Db35df9c31c6a453187d7063d29125af3%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D1%
> 26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D122647656287&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
> >
> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> If you know what these are you’ll be stunned at the price:
> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/122647656287?ul_noapp=true
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Heck!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Seems that these were popular in Egypt for some reason. Considering the way 
people drive there, I can sort of understand it.

-D


> On Aug 14, 2017, at 8:21 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> There is also one not quite as spendy there.
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-AMG-S-SL-W126-280-380-500-SACEX-Heackblende-NOS-RARE/282609911975?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3Db35df9c31c6a453187d7063d29125af3%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D122647656287&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> If you know what these are you’ll be stunned at the price:
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/122647656287?ul_noapp=true
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] More problems ...

[MG via Mercedes]

Please describe "the engine stopped running correctly". Just loss 
of power or actually misfiring and dropped cylinders?


MG

Craig via Mercedes wrote:

Shirley and I were driving back from Albuquerque in the '90 E300D and
about to ascend a hill at 65 mph, so I moved the transmission from D to 3.
Suddenly, the engine stopped running correctly and had little power and I
couldn't get the transmission to work correctly.

I got off I-40 and drove to a nearby filling station. The engine seemed
to run OK and the fuel gauge was not showing the reserve light, so I
drove the rest of the way home on Route 66. I noticed the engine ran OK
going down hills, but had difficulty going up hills.

I recalled the color of the prefilter being dark, so I thought maybe it
had plugged with bugs growing in the fuel tank.

Just a little while ago, I changed the prefilter and took it for a test
drive. The engine seems to have normal power (I don't have any hills
around here to check that out), but the transmission wasn't working
properly.

When starting out from a stop with the transmission in "D", it starts out
in third gear, even when I engage the kickdown switch.

I can make it start out in first and second by moving the lever to "2"
and the car starts briskly.

When driving 40 mph in fourth gear, I can make it go to third gear by
engaging the kickdown switch, so that seems to work.

Any ideas what is wrong?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Heck!

[MG via Mercedes]

There is also one not quite as spendy there.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-AMG-S-SL-W126-280-380-500-SACEX-Heackblende-NOS-RARE/282609911975?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3Db35df9c31c6a453187d7063d29125af3%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D122647656287&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

If you know what these are you’ll be stunned at the price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122647656287?ul_noapp=true

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Heck!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

What were they new 30 years ago, $100?

Nowadays, $1000 for a 2' long piece of plastic reflector seems outlandish. 
But, hey, it's perfectly contoured to match the ridges in the taillamp lenses. 

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Heck!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If you know what these are you’ll be stunned at the price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122647656287?ul_noapp=true

-D


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