Re: [MBZ] M119 Troubleshooting

2017-08-29 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Dan wrote: > Again, the crack in the exhaust didn’t occur until a couple of > weeks after the O2 sensors went out of band. The leak didn't occur? Or it was leaking enough to mess up the O2 sensor but not enough to make noise enough to attract attention?

[MBZ] Son of Poos needs a VW

2017-08-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Maybe we can do a Martha Stewart plastic bumper patching how-to: https://www.copart.com/lot/36757597 Have to look it over well and find out what Secondary Damage:Mechanical means. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

[MBZ] Curt needs another VW

2017-08-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] M119 Troubleshooting

2017-08-29 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
An injector slobbering will cause it to go over-lean -- white burned plugs on all but the bad cylinder, which will be dark. Remember, all the computer "sees" is oxygen in the exhaust. Too much fuel on one cylinder will reduce the oxygen level average (the O2 sensor is pretty slow to respond)

Re: [MBZ] Cheap MLs

2017-08-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On August 29, 2017 at 9:13 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Looks like a deal to me to, if it runs. I couldn't find any description of > the condition. Condition is listed as Hail Damaged. Which means dented all over, but needing no repair if you can live

Re: [MBZ] M119 Troubleshooting

2017-08-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
How’s about an injector that’s slobbering? -D > On Aug 29, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes > wrote: > > You also need to verify that you do not have a misfire or vacuum leak, too -- > the o2 sensor does not see anything but oxygen level, so anything

Re: [MBZ] M119 Troubleshooting

2017-08-29 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
You also need to verify that you do not have a misfire or vacuum leak, too -- the o2 sensor does not see anything but oxygen level, so anything that lets excess air in, pre or post combustion, will cause the computer to add fuel trying to make the oxygen go away. if the computer cannot balance

Re: [MBZ] M119 Troubleshooting

2017-08-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It went off for a day or two. I can clear the faults and they come back within an hour or two of driving. Again, the crack in the exhaust didn’t occur until a couple of weeks after the O2 sensors went out of band. -D > On Aug 29, 2017, at 9:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Cheap MLs

2017-08-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So whats the deal with buying from copart? Can you bid online? Does it cost anything? On 8/29/2017 8:13 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Looks like a deal to me to, if it runs. I couldn't find any description of the condition. ___

Re: [MBZ] M119 Troubleshooting

2017-08-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I thought you said you replaced the o2 sensors and the light went off for a while and now it is back? On 8/29/2017 8:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Peter, Do note that the crack in the catalytic converter occurred well after the O2 sensors started registering a rich mixture. I’m

Re: [MBZ] Cheap MLs

2017-08-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Looks like a deal to me to, if it runs. I couldn't find any description of the condition. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 29, 2017 8:34:48 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: >This ML is the same year and model as mine, slightly different

Re: [MBZ] M119 Troubleshooting

2017-08-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That is pretty much what I told him but he wants to throw money at it before fixing the exhaust. On 8/29/2017 7:33 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: An air leak into the exhaust upstream from the O2 sensor will cause it to run rich, and if you have separate sensors, it will run rich

Re: [MBZ] M119 Troubleshooting

2017-08-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Peter, Do note that the crack in the catalytic converter occurred well after the O2 sensors started registering a rich mixture. I’m suggesting that it’s the result of the rich mixture. Could this be the case? -D > On Aug 29, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] M119 Troubleshooting

2017-08-29 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
An air leak into the exhaust upstream from the O2 sensor will cause it to run rich, and if you have separate sensors, it will run rich only on that side. Fix the leak before you do anything else, the sensor may "fix" itself. Don't forget that exhaust gasses from a gasoline engine are

[MBZ] Cheap MLs

2017-08-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
This ML is the same year and model as mine, slightly different color, 40k less on the odometer. Sold for $475. Reserve wasn't met, but now it says SOLD so I guess the seller accepted the high bid. I think it was a gift at that price, what do you guys think? https://www.copart.com/lot/30346577

Re: [MBZ] M119 Troubleshooting

2017-08-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Remans from regular suppliers run around $26/each, there are all kinds of secondary rebuilders selling complete sets for around $80 up. They don’t even ask for cores…I would replace the whole set even if only one was bad no matter what. I’m going to pull plugs on that side tomorrow night if I

Re: [MBZ] M119 Troubleshooting

2017-08-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Aren't those injectors pretty cheap? Replace them all? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 29, 2017 7:40:59 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >Car = 1997 SL500 (R129) >Engine - M119 > >Complaint: > >A month or so ago, a CEL was thrown with

Re: [MBZ] You know it's hurricane season...

2017-08-29 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Gassers put out more heat since they are less efficient than our beloved diesels. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 2:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] M119 Troubleshooting

2017-08-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s not going to happen. I’ll sort out the cause then seal the crack with some exhaust sealer. It’s pretty small, less than a millimeter. There’s no room whatsoever to work around it, so anything like welding would require removing the exhaust pipe. -D > On Aug 29, 2017, at 7:54 PM,

Re: [MBZ] M119 Troubleshooting

2017-08-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Probably need to weld up the exhaust before proceeding further. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2017, at 6:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Car = 1997 SL500 (R129) > Engine - M119 > > Complaint: > > A month or so ago, a CEL was thrown with codes

[MBZ] M119 Troubleshooting

2017-08-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Car = 1997 SL500 (R129) Engine - M119 Complaint: A month or so ago, a CEL was thrown with codes indicating that the right side O2 sensors were out of spec. The front one was completely rejected by the computer as being way out of line, the rear only identified as being out of spec

Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

2017-08-29 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Ok! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 29, 2017 6:20:20 PM EDT, MG via Mercedes wrote: >Sounds good to me then. We should be there some time between 11 >and 11:30 on the 14th then. > >MG > >Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: >> I think that

Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

2017-08-29 Thread MG via Mercedes
Sounds good to me then. We should be there some time between 11 and 11:30 on the 14th then. MG Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: I think that construction will take years to complete. Traffic should be just fine, if you're avoiding morning and afternoon rush hour. WARNING: when you get onto

Re: [MBZ] You know it's hurricane season...

2017-08-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Flush toilets too! -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes To: Mercedes List Cc: Dan Penoff Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017, 5:51:09 PM EDTSubject: Re: [MBZ] You know it's hurricane season... They have TV up there? -D > On Aug 29,

Re: [MBZ] You know it's hurricane season...

2017-08-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
They have TV up there? -D > On Aug 29, 2017, at 5:47 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > The television station by our camp in Maine is hiring, I've debated putting > in a resume. If I did a Webasto would probably be a requirement, northern > Maine gets much

Re: [MBZ] You know it's hurricane season...

2017-08-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The television station by our camp in Maine is hiring, I've debated putting in a resume. If I did a Webasto would probably be a requirement, northern Maine gets much more serious cold than it does here in MA... Actually since my commute would get much shorter I'd probably end up with a gasser

Re: [MBZ] You know it's hurricane season...

2017-08-29 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
No, no, no! What is the matter with you fellows? How can we have a pure world if you insist upon using fossil fuels to keep warm? RB On 29/08/2017 4:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 15:25:45 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: What the electric cars

Re: [MBZ] You know it's hurricane season...

2017-08-29 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Real men like Andrew don't need heat or AC! RB On 29/08/2017 3:13 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Somewhat. But heating/AC needs would matter more. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent:

Re: [MBZ] You know it's hurricane season...

2017-08-29 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 15:25:45 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > What the electric cars need in the cold seasons is a nice gasoline > heater like my Dad's Cessna 195 had! > > http://southwindheater.com/Home.html Or diesel heaters!

Re: [MBZ] You know it's hurricane season...

2017-08-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Webasto still makes heaters too... -Curt From: OK Don via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: OK Don Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017, 4:25:53 PM EDTSubject: Re: [MBZ] You know it's hurricane season... What the electric cars

Re: [MBZ] You know it's hurricane season...

2017-08-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
What the electric cars need in the cold seasons is a nice gasoline heater like my Dad's Cessna 195 had! http://southwindheater.com/Home.html On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Somewhat. But heating/AC needs would matter more. > > >

Re: [MBZ] You know it's hurricane season...

2017-08-29 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Somewhat. But heating/AC needs would matter more. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 1:37 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Andrew

Re: [MBZ] 1968 Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL $1500

2017-08-29 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Jaime wrote: > No, it's unlikely this has an M189 if it's a 1968. It's an M130, a 109.016 I have M189 injector pump. tin.man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] OT fire scare

2017-08-29 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 29/08/2017 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: On my magnificent HUGE Kitchenaid everything gets satisfyingly dry without using the heater element. AND - If you do not use the drying element in your dishwasher, you may save enough power to permit some poor soul to plug in his

Re: [MBZ] OT fire scare

2017-08-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
On my magnificent HUGE Kitchenaid everything gets satisfyingly dry without using the heater element. On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That is what I have always done. Mostly because it was one of the few > things that would set my

Re: [MBZ] OT fire scare

2017-08-29 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
That is what I have always done. Mostly because it was one of the few things that would set my mother off. So, I developed a habit of not washing them (in the dishwasher). BUT, I never knew the reason. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com]

Re: [MBZ] OT fire scare

2017-08-29 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I have an older Kenmore and I don't think it has one either. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell [mailto:rbenn...@bennell.ca] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 11:04 AM To: Max Dillon via Mercedes Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT fire scare AND our Bosch does

Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

2017-08-29 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I think that construction will take years to complete. Traffic should be just fine, if you're avoiding morning and afternoon rush hour. WARNING: when you get onto highway 17 from I-95 to cut over to Charleston, obey the speed limit. There's a couple small towns along there that really like the

Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

2017-08-29 Thread MG via Mercedes
BTW do you know if the construction right there at Bertha's for the access ramps to 26 is done yet? That would make access better. What is the traffic like down there and do they have a place to sit and relax or will we have to find someplace else? Just trying to plan ahead here. What can I

Re: [MBZ] 1968 Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL $1500

2017-08-29 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
No, it's unlikely this has an M189 if it's a 1968. It's an M130, a 109.016 Jaime On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:20 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Kaleb wrote: > > H > > Is this M189? > tin.man > > ___ >

Re: [MBZ] The groundhog is long gone - what about skunks?

2017-08-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Oi. you're taking a huge risk. On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On August 29, 2017 at 1:33 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Do it when you have a nose cold and no sense of taste or

Re: [MBZ] The groundhog is long gone - what about skunks?

2017-08-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On August 29, 2017 at 1:33 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Do it when you have a nose cold and no sense of taste or smell. The ML350 killed a weasel or a brown mink this morning. I knew it would reek, but it didn't smell much (or my nose was stuffed

Re: [MBZ] You know it's hurricane season...

2017-08-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Wouldn't the range of an EV depend on the weight of the occupants? On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:32 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Electric cars keep getting smaller and smaller. > Mercedes is building an electric SUV — and that should worry Tesla > > The German

Re: [MBZ] 1968 Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL $1500

2017-08-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yes. On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Kaleb wrote: > > H > > Is this M189? > tin.man > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To

Re: [MBZ] The groundhog is long gone - what about skunks?

2017-08-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Do it when you have a nose cold and no sense of taste or smell. On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Rick wrote: > > Trap them in a live trap. Sneak up on it with a blanket to cover the > trap. Take them elsewhere or drown them. No smell.

[MBZ] Fw: 1986 Mercedes 200

2017-08-29 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Transitional W124 with M115. Fred Moir. Lynn MA. Diesel preferred. From: nore...@craigslist.org Sent: 29 August 2017 13:02 To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com Subject: 1986 Mercedes 200 fredy4.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist:

Re: [MBZ] You know it's hurricane season...

2017-08-29 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Electric cars keep getting smaller and smaller. Mercedes is building an electric SUV — and that should worry Tesla The German automaker showed off its electric SUV concept, the EQ, at the Paris Motor Show on Thursday. The concept is expected to get a range of up to 310 miles, and Mercedes said

Re: [MBZ] 1968 Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL $1500

2017-08-29 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Kaleb wrote: > H Is this M189? tin.man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] The groundhog is long gone - what about skunks?

2017-08-29 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Rick wrote: > Trap them in a live trap. Sneak up on it with a blanket to cover the trap. > Take them elsewhere or drown them. No smell. No smell. Really? tin.man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Allen took it in the behind

2017-08-29 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
Just catching up on digest and I saw this. I'm glad you are okay Clay. Make sure you get that checked out. I have been in a few wrecks and was stiff for 1-2 days. If it lasts longer than that, make sure you get real treatment. Don Snook -Original Message- From:

Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

2017-08-29 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Bertha's Kitchen: This bare-bones counter-serve restaurant is popular for unpretentious, homestyle Southern soul food. No BBQ, just good food. Chicken, pork chops, fried fish, rice-n-lima-beans, corn bread, sweet tea. For about $10 you may get a food coma, unless you show up hungry. Address:

Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

2017-08-29 Thread MG via Mercedes
That would be Thursday the 14th. MG via Mercedes wrote: That would work but this will be on Thursday could be there any time between 11 and 1. Where abouts is Bertha's? MG Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Nothing out there, you need to cut over the Charleston on 17, Rich and I will meet you

Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

2017-08-29 Thread MG via Mercedes
That would work but this will be on Thursday could be there any time between 11 and 1. Where abouts is Bertha's? MG Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Nothing out there, you need to cut over the Charleston on 17, Rich and I will meet you at Berthas. ___

Re: [MBZ] 1968 Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL $1500

2017-08-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
H Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2017, at 6:21 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > That's a good price for a w109 for parts... I paid more for the 67 300sel > sitting in my driveway earlier this year. But mine is an m189 car, this is > probably an

Re: [MBZ] The groundhog is long gone - what about skunks?

2017-08-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Won't it also self ignite if you just let it out of the bottle too fast? Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > > using acetylene gas (from carbide) Acetylene is _hugely_ explosive.  One spark, even

Re: [MBZ] 1968 Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL $1500

2017-08-29 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
That's a good price for a w109 for parts... I paid more for the 67 300sel sitting in my driveway earlier this year. But mine is an m189 car, this is probably an M130. Condition is similar. Still a great parts car. You can make the $1500 back pretty fast. Jaime On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:46