[MBZ] One More For Okie Acres

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/classic-low-miles-240d/6564965312.html

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Vacation etc.

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 30, 2018 at 11:30 PM Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 29 May 2018 14:04:50 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > Picked what turned out to be 35 quarts of fiddleheads that we processed
> > and froze yesterday.
> 
> OK, what are fiddleheads?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiddlehead_fern

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Vacation etc.

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 29 May 2018 14:04:50 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Picked what turned out to be 35 quarts of fiddleheads that we processed
> and froze yesterday.

OK, what are fiddleheads?


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[MBZ] 190d blower motor resistor/ac

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Is it normal for the blower motor resistor to glow like a toaster? Not sure I 
have ever noticed it before.  I need to push the 190d into service since the 98 
e300 is down right now with a bad conductor plate, and the muffler has fallen 
off the 95. Going to try to use an adaptor deal to reconnect it. Ac is dead and 
is still r12. Compressor does not kick in when pressure switch is jumped, but 
does kick in when Klima relay is jumpered. While compressor is running I don’t 
see anything moving they the sight glass so it’s probably empty. I will hook it 
up to my r12 machine and see if it holds a vacuum or not. I think I have a 
partial 30lb cylinder of r12 but am reluctant to use it. Is there a drop in 
replacement that will be available locally? I seem to recall freeze 12 but 
don’t know if it’s still available at flaps like it used to be. Otherwise I 
guess I will convert to r134.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] 2003 e320 wagon 82k miles

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I can buy it from him. You send the truck. I will ask him for some photos
to make sure it is not all beat to hell.

On Wed, May 30, 2018, 5:47 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On May 30, 2018 at 2:43 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yes in LA.
> >
> > Further questioning reveals a shifting issue; it doesnt always do what it
> > is told apparently.
> >
> > Anyway seems like parting it out may be the best option for him.
>
> Jaime (and I, if it's 4matic which is probably is not) are interested in
> it as a car.
>
> 1. It's the very last of the 210 chassis, and there weren't many of them
> made.
> 2. It's probably 100% rust free.
> 3. It has less than 100k on the odo, mine had 234k on it when I bought it
> six years ago.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yes its a union thing. Autonomous trains have been possible for decades now.

Flawed as they may be, and as deceptive as the advertising is, the
collision avoidance stuff is probably saving more lives than it takes, by a
large margin. But I have driven the Tesla and was so unimpressed by the
otto pilot that I went and leased an x5 instead. Unlike the tesla it has a
range following radar. Works pretty well but not perfect either.

Teslas got rid of lidar. Nobody else thinks that is possible.

Waymo is way mo advanced than the rest. They will have driverless minivans
for hire deployed this year or next I think; only company to be even
remotely close to that.

On Wed, May 30, 2018, 7:46 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Curt wrote:
>
> >  I'm wondering why there seems to be no focus on self driving
> > trains. Seems like thats low hanging fruit, you don't have to
> > steer...
>
> Maybe you would run afoul of a union?
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[MBZ] Drilling a hole in a bolt for safety wire

[fmiser via Mercedes]

I went looking for a jig to simplify trying to drill a hole
through a corner of a bolt/nut hex to attach safety wire.

Amazon has one for sale.  Two parts - one to drill the corner of a hex and the 
other to drill through the thread end of a bolt.

https://www.amazon.com/MOTO4U-Safety-Lockwire-Drill-Metric/dp/B074J83Q2V

One review.  I do agree with the fellow that some sort of
instructions should be included.  But look at the photo to see how
he is using it.

Creative.  And really struck my funny bone!

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curt wrote:

>  I'm wondering why there seems to be no focus on self driving
> trains. Seems like thats low hanging fruit, you don't have to
> steer... 

Maybe you would run afoul of a union?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: HTML is bad for Email

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 30 May 2018 09:30:49 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Since friends who use it are computer illiterate, and don't even
> realize some members can't read their emails, what should I tell them
> to do? Which email client should they use if the email client is
> causing the problem; OR; which email client should I switch to?

Sylpheed!


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[MBZ] OT - .22 Shooting Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Spent about three hours at the range with the youngest boy his afternoon.  Went 
through easily 300+ rounds of .22 between the Marlin 60 and the Beretta Neos.  
Shot about 80 rounds in the SKS as well.

The boy got the Marlin’s scope zeroed in quite well.  At 25 yards, the max 
distance of our range (after all, it really is a pistol range) you can easily 
group within an inch.  Not bad for a cheap scope.

Looking forward to getting the speed loader, for sure.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I'm wondering why there seems to be no focus on self driving trains. Seems 
like thats low hanging fruit, you don't have to steer...
-Curt

On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, 5:44:35 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Who is going to fund 30-50 years of R to perfect autopilot for cars and
trucks?

I read an article the other day which argued that a more rational approach
would be developing better driver assistance tools, which is the path that
MB (and probably others) has taken.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 5:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I would add - "yet" to Autopilot Does_not_work. Early Sperry auto-pilots in
> aircraft killed a few people as well - but auto-pilot is just short of
> standard equipment now, and most of your airliner rides are flown by a
> computer. Yes, driving a car is far more complex than keeping an aircraft
> straight and level and following a GPS course, but they'll get the bugs
> worked out in another 30 to 50 years . . .
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 30/05/2018 6:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

There are many highly intelligent people out there without a lick of common 
sense.  Common sense would dictate to most of us that it would be foolhardy to 
trust a car’s assistive driving features to pilot it without oversight.

-D




No kidding!

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

There are many highly intelligent people out there without a lick of common 
sense.  Common sense would dictate to most of us that it would be foolhardy to 
trust a car’s assistive driving features to pilot it without oversight.

-D


> On May 30, 2018, at 7:21 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 30/05/2018 4:27 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>>Autopilot Does_not_work.
>> 
>> I had my yearly physicians appointment today and we were discussing 
>> different things. One thing that came up is a young physician that recently 
>> died in a single car auto accident. He was showing off his new Infinity with 
>> Pro pilot or some such autonomous driving feature to my doctor. He remarked 
>> to my doctor he could probably sleep while it did the driving.
>> 
>> I suspect that sentiment cost him his life.
>> 
>> http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/coroner-doctor-dies-in-single-vehicle-crash-on-toll-road/article_bdbe746c-3175-5c1a-b4f3-b24bd1b2de98.html#utm_source=nwitimes.com_campaign=%2Femail-updates%2Fbreaking%2F_medium=email_content=F16BB8682923D6A57EF91E25A80E537F60855CBF
>> Rick
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> could sleep while the car drove him somewhere?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I assume (maybe without justification) that this death and the Tesla crashes 
with parked emergency vehicles are caused by the pilot getting bored and 
letting his attention drift away from the task at hand, the task that he's not 
doing himself but merely supervising...

Mitch. 


> On May 30, 2018 at 7:21 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> How can a person be smart enough to become an MD but dumb enough to 
> think he could sleep while the car drove him somewhere?
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 30/05/2018 4:27 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
  
  Autopilot Does_not_work.


I had my yearly physicians appointment today and we were discussing different 
things. One thing that came up is a young physician that recently died in a 
single car auto accident. He was showing off his new Infinity with Pro pilot or 
some such autonomous driving feature to my doctor. He remarked to my doctor he 
could probably sleep while it did the driving.

I suspect that sentiment cost him his life.

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/coroner-doctor-dies-in-single-vehicle-crash-on-toll-road/article_bdbe746c-3175-5c1a-b4f3-b24bd1b2de98.html#utm_source=nwitimes.com_campaign=%2Femail-updates%2Fbreaking%2F_medium=email_content=F16BB8682923D6A57EF91E25A80E537F60855CBF
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Absolutely - they are trained and kept current to the standards of their
country, or company in some cases. I really like the pilots who fly GA
aircraft in their spare time for fun - they know how to hand fly an
airplane. that having been said, I don't think Sully flew GA - just had
good training and kept his cool.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On May 30, 2018 at 5:37 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I would add - "yet" to Autopilot Does_not_work. Early Sperry auto-pilots
> in
> > aircraft killed a few people as well - but auto-pilot is just short of
> > standard equipment now, and most of your airliner rides are flown by a
> > computer.
>
> ...resulting, in some cases, in high hour "pilots" who don't know how to
> fly when they have to take over from the robopilot...
> https://www.ntsb.gov/news/events/Pages/2014_Asiana_BMG-Abstract.aspx
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 30, 2018 at 5:37 PM OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> I would add - "yet" to Autopilot Does_not_work. Early Sperry auto-pilots in
> aircraft killed a few people as well - but auto-pilot is just short of
> standard equipment now, and most of your airliner rides are flown by a
> computer.

...resulting, in some cases, in high hour "pilots" who don't know how to fly 
when they have to take over from the robopilot...
https://www.ntsb.gov/news/events/Pages/2014_Asiana_BMG-Abstract.aspx

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Who is going to fund 30-50 years of R to perfect autopilot for cars and
trucks?

I read an article the other day which argued that a more rational approach
would be developing better driver assistance tools, which is the path that
MB (and probably others) has taken.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 5:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I would add - "yet" to Autopilot Does_not_work. Early Sperry auto-pilots in
> aircraft killed a few people as well - but auto-pilot is just short of
> standard equipment now, and most of your airliner rides are flown by a
> computer. Yes, driving a car is far more complex than keeping an aircraft
> straight and level and following a GPS course, but they'll get the bugs
> worked out in another 30 to 50 years . . .
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I would add - "yet" to Autopilot Does_not_work. Early Sperry auto-pilots in
aircraft killed a few people as well - but auto-pilot is just short of
standard equipment now, and most of your airliner rides are flown by a
computer. Yes, driving a car is far more complex than keeping an aircraft
straight and level and following a GPS course, but they'll get the bugs
worked out in another 30 to 50 years . . .

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 4:27 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>  Autopilot Does_not_work.
>
> I had my yearly physicians appointment today and we were discussing
> different things. One thing that came up is a young physician that recently
> died in a single car auto accident. He was showing off his new
> Infinity with Pro pilot or some such autonomous driving feature to my
> doctor. He remarked to my doctor he could probably sleep while it did the
> driving.
>
> I suspect that sentiment cost him his life.
>
> http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/coroner-doctor-
> dies-in-single-vehicle-crash-on-toll-road/article_bdbe746c-
> 3175-5c1a-b4f3-b24bd1b2de98.html#utm_source=nwitimes.com&
> utm_campaign=%2Femail-updates%2Fbreaking%2F_medium=email_content=
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"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

 
 Autopilot Does_not_work. 

I had my yearly physicians appointment today and we were discussing different 
things. One thing that came up is a young physician that recently died in a 
single car auto accident. He was showing off his new Infinity with Pro pilot or 
some such autonomous driving feature to my doctor. He remarked to my doctor he 
could probably sleep while it did the driving. 

I suspect that sentiment cost him his life. 

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/coroner-doctor-dies-in-single-vehicle-crash-on-toll-road/article_bdbe746c-3175-5c1a-b4f3-b24bd1b2de98.html#utm_source=nwitimes.com_campaign=%2Femail-updates%2Fbreaking%2F_medium=email_content=F16BB8682923D6A57EF91E25A80E537F60855CBF
  
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Re: [MBZ] Curt Needs to Get This...

[OK Don via Mercedes]

IIRC, the 8E and 8F are mildly aerobatic - definitely the models to look
for. I haven't seen a Narco Superhomer in a LONG time. It's not legal to
use anymore, but was cool back in the day. The radio I had in my Cessna 140
was even more primitive than that. only four frequencies, no nav.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:32 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> Dan needs to get this:
>
> https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_1366708_Luscombe+8A+1946.html
>
> Others:
>
> https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_1360158_1946+Luscombe+8a.html
>
> https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_1353886_Luscombe+8E.html
>
> Projects:
>
> https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_1369751_1948+
> Luscombe+8E+Project.html
>
> https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_1353886_Luscombe+8E.html
>
> https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_1363798_1938+
> LUSCOME+8+VERY+RARE%21%21.html
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Re: [MBZ] A Realistic BAT Auction

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Both.

> On May 30, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Sold well or bought well?  Sold well implies seller came out ahead.  I 
> thought it was a fair price, maybe even a little low.
> 
>> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> I thought this sold well:
>> 
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-oldsmobile-toronado/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-05-30
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

In 50+ years of driving I have only rearended one car - but it was an Acura
so no big deal.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 2:57 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So far in 2018, these rare and expensive cars have "assisted" their owners
> into hitting TWO firetrucks and now a police SUV. Just imagine what would
> happen if there were a lot of these things on the road.
>
> And Uber managed to kill a pedestrian.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] A Realistic BAT Auction

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sold well or bought well?  Sold well implies seller came out ahead.  I
thought it was a fair price, maybe even a little low.

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I thought this sold well:
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-oldsmobile-toronado/?utm_source=
> dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-05-30
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

So far in 2018, these rare and expensive cars have "assisted" their owners into 
hitting TWO firetrucks and now a police SUV. Just imagine what would happen if 
there were a lot of these things on the road. 

And Uber managed to kill a pedestrian. 

Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT: Elon Musk's very awkward moment...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Tesla in Autopilot mode hits parked police car in Calif.Published:
Wednesday, May 30, 2018

A Tesla Inc. electric vehicle in Autopilot mode yesterday crashed into a
parked police car in Laguna Beach, Calif., authorities said.

The driver of the Tesla sedan suffered minor injuries, said police Sgt. Jim
Cota.

There was no one behind the wheel of the police car, which ended up with
two wheels on the sidewalk, Cota said.

The incident places even further scrutiny on Tesla's semiautonomous
Autopilot feature.

Earlier this month, a Tesla Model S on Autopilot sped up just before
crashing into a fire truck in Utah.

Consumer groups have asked federal regulators to probe what they call the
company's "deceptive advertising" for the feature (*Greenwire*
, May 23; Associated Press
, May 29)
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Re: [MBZ] Curt Needs to Get This...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Dan needs to get this:

https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_1366708_Luscombe+8A+1946.html

Others:

https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_1360158_1946+Luscombe+8a.html

https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_1353886_Luscombe+8E.html

Projects:

https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_1369751_1948+Luscombe+8E+Project.html

https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_1353886_Luscombe+8E.html

https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_1363798_1938+LUSCOME+8+VERY+RARE%21%21.html

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Re: [MBZ] Curt Needs to Get This...

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I rather think I need to learn to fly and get it for myself. Gotta get rich 
first I think...

Just read "The Lucky 666" which is an amazing story out of the south Pacific 
during WWII. That combined with the thing somebody posted a couple weeks ago 
about the Pan Am guys flying home at the outbreak of war has been making me 
think a lot about planes.

-Curt
 

On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, 1:13:58 PM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 ...for OK Don:

https://maine.craigslist.org/avo/d/1947-luscombe-8e/6586717605.html

-D
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[MBZ] Curt Needs to Get This...

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

...for OK Don:

https://maine.craigslist.org/avo/d/1947-luscombe-8e/6586717605.html

-D
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Re: [MBZ] OT:anybody heard from Wilton lately?

[Tim Crone via Mercedes]

Hi Wilton,

You'll be glad to know that my older son has taken up work on the SDLs
(his first major mechanical project). He's actually getting reasonably
but it will definitely be an all-summer project for him.

Best,
-Tim
also lurking

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> Hi Wilt:
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> Good to hear from you!
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> I'm okay; still lurking.
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Re: [MBZ] OT:anybody heard from Wilton lately?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Hi Wilt:

Good to hear from you!

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:anybody heard from Wilton lately?

I'm okay; still lurking.

Thanks

Wilt

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Re: [MBZ] OT:anybody heard from Wilton lately?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Wilton,
Good to hear from you. Check in once in a while, we've missed you.

Grant

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 8:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Craig and his wife Shirley will be passing through NC about now or in the
> next week, maybe you'll be able to meet up.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:19 AM, WILTON via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] OT:anybody heard from Wilton lately?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Craig and his wife Shirley will be passing through NC about now or in the
next week, maybe you'll be able to meet up.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] OT:anybody heard from Wilton lately?

[WILTON via Mercedes]

I'm okay; still lurking.

Thanks

Wilt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: HTML is bad for Email

[MG via Mercedes]

You might try setting your list preferences to receive all email 
in text only form. Works for me.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Doesn't seem like it, no.
Yahoo supposedly replies in whatever format the incoming email is. The list 
then seems to mis-interpret that...

-Curt






On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, 10:12:42 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  wrote: 






You can't change it in the default settings?
Mitch. 


On May 30, 2018 at 10:02 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
wrote:


I find it interesting that the list regularly misinterprets Yahoo mail. I do 
make an attempt to remember to send emails as plain text which I think helps 
but its an extra step I often forget.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: HTML is bad for Email

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Understood. 
What are some current email clients that will work with Windows7 ?
Gerry

> Nearly all email clients offer an option to send messages in plain text.  
> However, there’s nothing you can do about emails you receive from others.  
> Again, most current email clients will display both types of mail without 
> issue, and make the determination to do so on the fly and automagically.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On May 30, 2018, at 9:30 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > More and more people seem to be sending simple messages to email groups on 
> > the web using an unfamiliar version of html.
> > Those that appear as little boxes marked html that force you to open them 
> > from the web are a big PIA, and sometimes you can't even read them then.
> > 
> > A website last published in 2005 had this to say:
> > 
> > "Because HTML is for making web pages and plain text is for simple 
> > communications. If you're looking to create a web page or write a book, 
> > fine. But e-mail messages are not web pages or books. e-mail was designed 
> > for simple messaging. Anything else detracts, rather than adds to its core 
> > functionality."
> > 
> > Why HTML in E-Mail is a Bad Idea
> > http://archive.birdhouse.org/etc/evilmail.html#problem
> > 
> > Since friends who use it are computer illiterate, and don't even realize 
> > some members can't read their emails, what should I tell them to do? Which 
> > email client should they use if the email client is causing the problem; 
> > OR; which email client should I switch to?
> > Thanks,
> > Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] W108 Walkaround

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

It’s Craigslist. Need I say more?

I replied back to the seller and suggested they have “go to Jesus” meeting  
with the owner if they expected to sell the car, listing just a handful of 
reasons, but didn’t get a response - not that I expected one.  I did it as a 
courtesy, but these slime bucket sellers will always be in the market and 
there’s no way to rationalize where they’re coming from.

-D

> On May 30, 2018, at 10:00 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> For that kind of money? Where do people find the gall?
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, 8:43:02 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Five minute walk around - just a sampling of what I found:
> 
> Repaint. Paint poorly masked around windows and seals and peeling in those 
> areas
> 
> Floor rusted through in several spots and repaired, but they missed a couple 
> of dime-sized holes in the rear seat floorboards. Oops!
> 
> Undercarriage has signs of recently applied undercoating (floorboard 
> replacement and covering rocker panels)
> 
> Both sides of trunk wells full of water, like 3”-4”
> 
> New motor mounts!
> 
> The “new” cold start valve came with gobs of RTV slathered around the joint 
> where the cover meets the base. Nice. Never saw one out of the box like that, 
> must be a redesign
> 
> I could go on, but why bother?  A classic example of a CL ad. Looks halfway 
> decent, but upon closer inspection it’s a train wreck.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On May 29, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > "Blue" interior? 3rd pic looks black to me, maybe he meant Navy blue?
> > 
> > 4th pic, photog failed to place finger to cover license plate, then gave up 
> > entirely in the 5th pic.
> > 
> > I hate those chrome wheel well arches.
> > -- 
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> > 
> >> On May 29, 2018 5:53:51 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >> So look at this car and everyone give me your opinion:
> >> 
> >> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/6590696870.html
> >> 
> >> I’ve looked at it and will dissect it after the peanut gallery
> >> responds.  It’s a classic CL posting, I’ll tell you that much.
> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: HTML is bad for Email

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Doesn't seem like it, no.
Yahoo supposedly replies in whatever format the incoming email is. The list 
then seems to mis-interpret that...

-Curt






On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, 10:12:42 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





You can't change it in the default settings?
Mitch. 

> On May 30, 2018 at 10:02 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I find it interesting that the list regularly misinterprets Yahoo mail. I do 
> make an attempt to remember to send emails as plain text which I think helps 
> but its an extra step I often forget.
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT: HTML is bad for Email

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

You can't change it in the default settings?
Mitch. 
> On May 30, 2018 at 10:02 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I find it interesting that the list regularly misinterprets Yahoo mail. I do 
> make an attempt to remember to send emails as plain text which I think helps 
> but its an extra step I often forget.
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT: HTML is bad for Email

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I find it interesting that the list regularly misinterprets Yahoo mail. I do 
make an attempt to remember to send emails as plain text which I think helps 
but its an extra step I often forget.

-Curt
Remembered to change to plain text this time.





On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, 9:58:30 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Nearly all email clients offer an option to send messages in plain text.  
However, there’s nothing you can do about emails you receive from others.  
Again, most current email clients will display both types of mail without 
issue, and make the determination to do so on the fly and automagically.

-D

> On May 30, 2018, at 9:30 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> More and more people seem to be sending simple messages to email groups on 
> the web using an unfamiliar version of html.
> Those that appear as little boxes marked html that force you to open them 
> from the web are a big PIA, and sometimes you can't even read them then.
> 
> A website last published in 2005 had this to say:
> 
> "Because HTML is for making web pages and plain text is for simple 
> communications. If you're looking to create a web page or write a book, fine. 
> But e-mail messages are not web pages or books. e-mail was designed for 
> simple messaging. Anything else detracts, rather than adds to its core 
> functionality."
> 
> Why HTML in E-Mail is a Bad Idea
> http://archive.birdhouse.org/etc/evilmail.html#problem
> 
> Since friends who use it are computer illiterate, and don't even realize some 
> members can't read their emails, what should I tell them to do? Which email 
> client should they use if the email client is causing the problem; OR; which 
> email client should I switch to?
> Thanks,
> Gerry
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W108 Walkaround

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

For that kind of money? Where do people find the gall?

-Curt
 

On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, 8:43:02 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Five minute walk around - just a sampling of what I found:

Repaint. Paint poorly masked around windows and seals and peeling in those areas

Floor rusted through in several spots and repaired, but they missed a couple of 
dime-sized holes in the rear seat floorboards. Oops!

Undercarriage has signs of recently applied undercoating (floorboard 
replacement and covering rocker panels)

Both sides of trunk wells full of water, like 3”-4”

New motor mounts!

The “new” cold start valve came with gobs of RTV slathered around the joint 
where the cover meets the base. Nice. Never saw one out of the box like that, 
must be a redesign

I could go on, but why bother?  A classic example of a CL ad. Looks halfway 
decent, but upon closer inspection it’s a train wreck.

-D


> On May 29, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> "Blue" interior? 3rd pic looks black to me, maybe he meant Navy blue?
> 
> 4th pic, photog failed to place finger to cover license plate, then gave up 
> entirely in the 5th pic.
> 
> I hate those chrome wheel well arches.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On May 29, 2018 5:53:51 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> So look at this car and everyone give me your opinion:
>> 
>> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/6590696870.html
>> 
>> I’ve looked at it and will dissect it after the peanut gallery
>> responds.  It’s a classic CL posting, I’ll tell you that much.
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: HTML is bad for Email

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Nearly all email clients offer an option to send messages in plain text.  
However, there’s nothing you can do about emails you receive from others.  
Again, most current email clients will display both types of mail without 
issue, and make the determination to do so on the fly and automagically.

-D

> On May 30, 2018, at 9:30 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> More and more people seem to be sending simple messages to email groups on 
> the web using an unfamiliar version of html.
> Those that appear as little boxes marked html that force you to open them 
> from the web are a big PIA, and sometimes you can't even read them then.
> 
> A website last published in 2005 had this to say:
> 
> "Because HTML is for making web pages and plain text is for simple 
> communications. If you're looking to create a web page or write a book, fine. 
> But e-mail messages are not web pages or books. e-mail was designed for 
> simple messaging. Anything else detracts, rather than adds to its core 
> functionality."
> 
> Why HTML in E-Mail is a Bad Idea
> http://archive.birdhouse.org/etc/evilmail.html#problem
> 
> Since friends who use it are computer illiterate, and don't even realize some 
> members can't read their emails, what should I tell them to do? Which email 
> client should they use if the email client is causing the problem; OR; which 
> email client should I switch to?
> Thanks,
> Gerry
> 
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[MBZ] OT: HTML is bad for Email

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

More and more people seem to be sending simple messages to email groups on the 
web using an unfamiliar version of html.
Those that appear as little boxes marked html that force you to open them from 
the web are a big PIA, and sometimes you can't even read them then.

A website last published in 2005 had this to say:

"Because HTML is for making web pages and plain text is for simple 
communications. If you're looking to create a web page or write a book, fine. 
But e-mail messages are not web pages or books. e-mail was designed for simple 
messaging. Anything else detracts, rather than adds to its core functionality."

Why HTML in E-Mail is a Bad Idea
http://archive.birdhouse.org/etc/evilmail.html#problem

Since friends who use it are computer illiterate, and don't even realize some 
members can't read their emails, what should I tell them to do? Which email 
client should they use if the email client is causing the problem; OR; which 
email client should I switch to?
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Re: [MBZ] 2003 e320 wagon 82k miles

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 30, 2018 at 2:43 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes in LA.
> 
> Further questioning reveals a shifting issue; it doesnt always do what it
> is told apparently.
> 
> Anyway seems like parting it out may be the best option for him.

Jaime (and I, if it's 4matic which is probably is not) are interested in it as 
a car. 

1. It's the very last of the 210 chassis, and there weren't many of them made. 
2. It's probably 100% rust free. 
3. It has less than 100k on the odo, mine had 234k on it when I bought it six 
years ago.

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Re: [MBZ] W108 Walkaround

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Five minute walk around - just a sampling of what I found:

Repaint. Paint poorly masked around windows and seals and peeling in those areas

Floor rusted through in several spots and repaired, but they missed a couple of 
dime-sized holes in the rear seat floorboards. Oops!

Undercarriage has signs of recently applied undercoating (floorboard 
replacement and covering rocker panels)

Both sides of trunk wells full of water, like 3”-4”

New motor mounts!

The “new” cold start valve came with gobs of RTV slathered around the joint 
where the cover meets the base. Nice. Never saw one out of the box like that, 
must be a redesign

I could go on, but why bother?  A classic example of a CL ad. Looks halfway 
decent, but upon closer inspection it’s a train wreck.

-D


> On May 29, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> "Blue" interior? 3rd pic looks black to me, maybe he meant Navy blue?
> 
> 4th pic, photog failed to place finger to cover license plate, then gave up 
> entirely in the 5th pic.
> 
> I hate those chrome wheel well arches.
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> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On May 29, 2018 5:53:51 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> So look at this car and everyone give me your opinion:
>> 
>> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/6590696870.html
>> 
>> I’ve looked at it and will dissect it after the peanut gallery
>> responds.  It’s a classic CL posting, I’ll tell you that much.
>> 
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[MBZ] A Realistic BAT Auction

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I thought this sold well:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-oldsmobile-toronado/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-05-30

-D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - any pump experts out there?

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Yes, I think so too. I am thinking about making steampunk taps from copper 
fittings so they will have a full half inch feed.


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Re: [MBZ] OT military M1911 pistol auction

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Yeah, I’m not interested in spending a grand for an old beat up 1911, 
regardless of provenance.  I may ask the range about it next time I’m there.

Interestingly, I noticed that all of the local ROTC groups are members.

-D

> On May 29, 2018, at 10:12 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps call CMP and ask what it takes to get listed? I think they are just
> trying to meet the "marksmanship" portion of their mandate, and membership
> in a range that provides that opportunity is enough. This is just my guess
> though . . .
> 
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 9:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Mine’s not listed.  I’ll be there tomorrow and will ask.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2018, at 10:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When my son bought is Garand from the CMP, the CMP site listed a local
>> gun
>>> range as affiliated. He called the range and they told him that it was
>> not
>>> affiliated. He then call CMP, and they told him that yes, if he got a
>>> membership card from them, and sent them a copy with his paperwork, all
>>> would be good. He joined the range, made them provide a membership card,
>>> which the staff there at the time didn't know about, and bought the
>> Garand.
>>> 
>>> So, don't just assume that your club is not acceptable to the CMP . . .
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Not only that, but one of the requirements for applying is to be a
>> member
 of a local CMP club.  My range/club is not.
 
 Thanks, but I’ll stick with my SA Range Officer.
 
 -D
 
 
 
> On May 29, 2018, at 7:30 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Those CMP 1911s aren't going to be collectibles, they'll be many times
 armory refurbished collections of mismatched parts replaced as needed
>> over
 the decades.
> 
> The ones that have value will be classified as 'auction grade' and they
 won't go cheap. Oh, I see the linked article covered that:
> "Some of the pistols have been deemed more valuable and set aside for
 auction. Cooper said those include weapons with parts that have matching
 serial numbers."
> 
> http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/05/daniel-zimmerman/
 cmp-publishes-pricing-on-milsurp-m1911-and-m1911a1-pistols/
> 
> Mitch.
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>>> 
>>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
>> of
>>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>> who
>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>>> for themselves."
>>> 
>>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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> 
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> for themselves."
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> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD wanted

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yes the four on the tree made my 1961 190d a veritable rocketship. Very
tractor-like, but slower.

On Tue, May 29, 2018, 8:35 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Worse, you're stuck with an auto.
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 25, 2018, 11:14:34 AM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  OK-then  he would want 81 or newer.  My 82CD  is a turbo.
> Non turbo 300D is not much better than 240D.
>
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > wrote:
>
> > I don’t think there was turbo anything until 81.
> >
> > Having owned a non-turbo, I would never buy or recommend one myself.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On May 25, 2018, at 11:03 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok let me,ask him. I think he might want a turbo. Was 80 the first year
> > for
> > > Turbo CD's?
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > > On May 25, 2018 10:04 AM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > This 78 I have is pretty nice. I have lots of pics I could send.
> > >
> > > --R
> > > Sent from iPhone
> > >
> > >> On May 25, 2018, at 9:53 AM, MG via Mercedes 
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Only if he wants a project.
> > >>
> > >> Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> > >>> Anybody know of one for sale? I have a friend looking for one.
> > >>> Dwight Giles Jr.
> > >>> 1982 300CD
> > >>> 2005 E320 4matic
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb needs this

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Photo shows the turbo. Too bad about the seats.

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> Turbo or NA?
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> > https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/d/1983-mercedes-
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Re: [MBZ] 2003 e320 wagon 82k miles

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yes in LA.

Further questioning reveals a shifting issue; it doesnt always do what it
is told apparently.

Anyway seems like parting it out may be the best option for him.

On Tue, May 29, 2018, 5:51 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
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> Where is it located?
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 6:40 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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>
> > Coworker has this car wants to get rid of it. He has driven it for a long
> > time; bought CPO. Just fyi. Seemed like someone on here wanted one but
> not
> > sure about the year.
> >
> > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 11:43 AM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
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> >
> > > Before you take another drive, Tighten up your break petal!!
> > > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
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> > > > On May 29, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> > > >
> > > > Your loosing parts
> > > >
> > > > --R
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> > > >> On May 29, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> The rear muffler finally let go on the 95 e300 and started
> dragging. I
> > > pulled it off and it’s currently in the trunk while I drive around with
> > no
> > > muffler. I later discovers the rf corner light fell off somewhere today
> > > also.
> > > >>
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