Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 23:37:59 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: > One of the saddest cases of radiation poisoning in the 1930s was > Thorotrast. It was an oral contrast medium that did a beautiful job of > outlining and diagnosing the liver. Every single patient to whom it was > given died; usually after about ten years of misery. Gerry From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorotrast : Thorotrast is a suspension containing particles of the radioactive compound thorium dioxide, ThO2, that was used as a radiocontrast agent in medical radiography in the 1930s and 1940s. Use in some countries, such as the U.S., continued into the 1950s. Thorium compounds produce excellent images because of thorium's high opacity to X-rays (it has a high cross section for absorption). However, thorium is retained in the body, and it is radioactive, emitting harmful alpha radiation as it decays. Because the suspension offered high image quality and had virtually no immediate side-effects compared to the alternatives available at the time, Thorotrast became widely used after its introduction in 1931. António Egas Moniz contributed to its development.[1] About 2 to 10 million patients worldwide have been treated with Thorotrast. However, today it has shown an increase risk in certain cancers such as cholangiocarcinomas and angiosarcomas of the liver. Safety Even at the time of introduction, there was concern about the safety of Thorotrast. Following injection, the drug is distributed to the liver, spleen, lymph nodes, and bone, where it is absorbed. After this initial absorption, redistribution takes place at a very slow pace. Specifically, the biological half-life is estimated to be 22 years.[2] This means that the organs of patients who have been given Thorotrast will be exposed to internal alpha radiation for the rest of their lives. The significance of this long-term exposure was not fully understood at the time of Thorotrast's introduction in 1931. Due to the release of alpha particles, Thorotrast was found to be extremely carcinogenic. There is a high over-incidence of various cancers in patients who have been treated with Thorotrast. The cancers occur some years (usually 20-30) after injection of Thorotrast. The risk of developing liver cancer (or bile duct cancer) in former Thorotrast patients has been measured to be well above 100 times the risk of the rest of the population. The risk of leukemia appears to be 20 times higher in Thorotrast patients.[3] Thorotrast exposure has also been associated with the development of angiosarcoma. German patients exposed to Thorotrast had their median life-expectancy shortened by 14 years in comparison to a similar non-exposed control group.[4] Thorium is no longer used in X-ray contrast agents. Today, iodinated hydrophilic (water-soluble) molecules are universally used as injected contrast agents in X-ray procedures. The Danish director Nils Malmros's movie, Facing the Truth (original Danish title At Kende Sandheden) from 2002, portrays the dilemma that faced Malmros's father, Richard Malmros, when treating his patients in the 1940s. Richard Malmros was deeply concerned about the persistence of Thorotrast in the body but was forced to use Thorotrast, because the only available alternative (per-abrodil) had serious immediate side-effects, suffered from image quality problems and was difficult to obtain during the Second World War. The use of Thorotrast in Denmark ended in 1947 when safer alternatives became available. Current use Thorotrast has also been used in research to stain neural tissue samples for examination by historadiography.[5] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 21:41:09 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: > I don't know if BB made the machines ,but they Used them > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Oct 27, 2018 9:36 PM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > I don't think there were any documented customer cancer cases from those, > > but some employees who demonstrated them on their own feet several times a > > day got messed up bad. > > Along with some of the girls who painted radium markings on instrument > > faces for the military, and played with the glowing paint on work breaks. > > > > Was it Buster Brown that made the shoe sizing x-ray machines? > > I didn't know that. > > Mitch. > > > > > On October 27, 2018 at 9:05 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I heard from a colleague that those x-ray machines had to be removed from > > > the stores because of the high radiation exposure given to customers. > > > > > > > ___ One of the saddest cases of radiation poisoning in the 1930s was Thorotrast. It was an oral contrast medium that did a beautiful job of outlining and diagnosing the liver. Every single patient to whom it was given died; usually after about ten years of misery. Gerry --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
> On October 27, 2018 at 10:25 PM Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > It was watch faces. > > In the 1920s or thereabouts, there was even a radium drink, which some > people used extensively. One fellow had his jaw melt away into nothing > and had a rather painful death. What irked me was the Wiki article saying that the lab workers all wore lead aprons when working with radium, while the production foremen instructed the girls to repoint their paintbrushes with their lips every multiple times per minutes while wearing no protective gear. If that was true, the people running that place belonged in prison. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 21:45:28 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > > > On October 27, 2018 at 9:35 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > Along with some of the girls who painted radium markings on > > instrument faces for the military, and played with the glowing paint > > on work breaks. > > Or was that watch faces? > Probably both, but there were likely more watches made than submarine > instrument panels etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Girls It was watch faces. In the 1920s or thereabouts, there was even a radium drink, which some people used extensively. One fellow had his jaw melt away into nothing and had a rather painful death. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
Agreed- all he had to do was,to look at the worn out pair I was,wearing & pronation & suppination were obvious. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Oct 27, 2018 9:43 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes" wrote: IIRC, the New Balance store toys are based on weight sensors across the foot area. My wife tried one once - was not impressed. On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 8:31 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yes I read/heard/remember that too. It was the 50"s & radiation was cool. > This is,why I was,surprised a,few,weeks ago that the New Balance store had > some of digital imaging to tell me,about pronation etc. Not sure it had > any radiation > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Oct 27, 2018 9:05 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel" > wrote: > > > I heard from a colleague that those x-ray machines had to be removed from > > the stores because of the high radiation exposure given to customers. > > > > On Oct 27, 2018 8:49 PM, "Dwight Giles via Mercedes" < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Yes good memory Mitch. We wore Buster Brown"s. They had this cool Xray > >> machine that you could see your feet Inside the shoes > >> > >> Dwight Giles Jr. > >> Wickford RI > >> > >> On Oct 27, 2018 8:45 PM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> This talk of busters and shoes got me thinking about something I hadn't > >> given a thought to in a few decades, maybe not even since the 1970s. > >> Then I remembered the kid was Buster, not the dog, who was named Tige. > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkLxbHOFdE > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
> On October 27, 2018 at 9:35 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > Along with some of the girls who painted radium markings on instrument faces > for the military, and played with the glowing paint on work breaks. Or was that watch faces? Probably both, but there were likely more watches made than submarine instrument panels etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Girls ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
IIRC, the New Balance store toys are based on weight sensors across the foot area. My wife tried one once - was not impressed. On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 8:31 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yes I read/heard/remember that too. It was the 50"s & radiation was cool. > This is,why I was,surprised a,few,weeks ago that the New Balance store had > some of digital imaging to tell me,about pronation etc. Not sure it had > any radiation > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Oct 27, 2018 9:05 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel" > wrote: > > > I heard from a colleague that those x-ray machines had to be removed from > > the stores because of the high radiation exposure given to customers. > > > > On Oct 27, 2018 8:49 PM, "Dwight Giles via Mercedes" < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Yes good memory Mitch. We wore Buster Brown"s. They had this cool Xray > >> machine that you could see your feet Inside the shoes > >> > >> Dwight Giles Jr. > >> Wickford RI > >> > >> On Oct 27, 2018 8:45 PM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> This talk of busters and shoes got me thinking about something I hadn't > >> given a thought to in a few decades, maybe not even since the 1970s. > >> Then I remembered the kid was Buster, not the dog, who was named Tige. > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkLxbHOFdE > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
I don't know if BB made the machines ,but they Used them Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Oct 27, 2018 9:36 PM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" wrote: > I don't think there were any documented customer cancer cases from those, > but some employees who demonstrated them on their own feet several times a > day got messed up bad. > Along with some of the girls who painted radium markings on instrument > faces for the military, and played with the glowing paint on work breaks. > > Was it Buster Brown that made the shoe sizing x-ray machines? > I didn't know that. > Mitch. > > > On October 27, 2018 at 9:05 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > I heard from a colleague that those x-ray machines had to be removed from > > the stores because of the high radiation exposure given to customers. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
I don't think there were any documented customer cancer cases from those, but some employees who demonstrated them on their own feet several times a day got messed up bad. Along with some of the girls who painted radium markings on instrument faces for the military, and played with the glowing paint on work breaks. Was it Buster Brown that made the shoe sizing x-ray machines? I didn't know that. Mitch. > On October 27, 2018 at 9:05 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I heard from a colleague that those x-ray machines had to be removed from > the stores because of the high radiation exposure given to customers. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
Smart parents. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Oct 27, 2018 9:17 PM, "Craig via Mercedes" wrote: > On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 20:48:38 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Yes good memory Mitch. We wore Buster Brown"s. They had this cool Xray > > machine that you could see your feet Inside the shoes > > We had one in the shoe store in Westchester (Los Angeles, about 3 miles > north of LAX), but my parents would not let us use it (a doctor -- > pediatrician -- for my father and a nurse for my mother). > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
Yes I read/heard/remember that too. It was the 50"s & radiation was cool. This is,why I was,surprised a,few,weeks ago that the New Balance store had some of digital imaging to tell me,about pronation etc. Not sure it had any radiation Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Oct 27, 2018 9:05 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel" wrote: > I heard from a colleague that those x-ray machines had to be removed from > the stores because of the high radiation exposure given to customers. > > On Oct 27, 2018 8:49 PM, "Dwight Giles via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Yes good memory Mitch. We wore Buster Brown"s. They had this cool Xray >> machine that you could see your feet Inside the shoes >> >> Dwight Giles Jr. >> Wickford RI >> >> On Oct 27, 2018 8:45 PM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> This talk of busters and shoes got me thinking about something I hadn't >> given a thought to in a few decades, maybe not even since the 1970s. >> Then I remembered the kid was Buster, not the dog, who was named Tige. >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkLxbHOFdE >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 20:48:38 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: > Yes good memory Mitch. We wore Buster Brown"s. They had this cool Xray > machine that you could see your feet Inside the shoes We had one in the shoe store in Westchester (Los Angeles, about 3 miles north of LAX), but my parents would not let us use it (a doctor -- pediatrician -- for my father and a nurse for my mother). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
I heard from a colleague that those x-ray machines had to be removed from the stores because of the high radiation exposure given to customers. On Oct 27, 2018 8:49 PM, "Dwight Giles via Mercedes" wrote: > Yes good memory Mitch. We wore Buster Brown"s. They had this cool Xray > machine that you could see your feet Inside the shoes > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Oct 27, 2018 8:45 PM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" > > wrote: > > > This talk of busters and shoes got me thinking about something I hadn't > given a thought to in a few decades, maybe not even since the 1970s. > Then I remembered the kid was Buster, not the dog, who was named Tige. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkLxbHOFdE > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
Yes good memory Mitch. We wore Buster Brown"s. They had this cool Xray machine that you could see your feet Inside the shoes Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Oct 27, 2018 8:45 PM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" wrote: This talk of busters and shoes got me thinking about something I hadn't given a thought to in a few decades, maybe not even since the 1970s. Then I remembered the kid was Buster, not the dog, who was named Tige. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkLxbHOFdE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
My dogs begged to go out in wet & blustery today so they did get their soaked walks. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Oct 27, 2018 7:17 PM, "Craig via Mercedes" wrote: > On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 23:12:39 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I can't remember who suggested neets foot oil with bees wax but as it > > was raining today I figured I'd take some time with my boots. > > Good report. > > > > Maybe tomorrow I'll give them a shot, certainly Buster didn't like > > sitting inside all day today but it was blustery and miserable... -Curt > > What would Buster have done if you had turned him out into the blustery > miserableness? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
This talk of busters and shoes got me thinking about something I hadn't given a thought to in a few decades, maybe not even since the 1970s. Then I remembered the kid was Buster, not the dog, who was named Tige. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkLxbHOFdE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
Is that warm for this time of year? The temp here is about right (high in the low '40s) for this time of year but the wind and rain were quite vicious. I was in Vancouver the past week, it was lovely there until Thursday, then rainy but still fairly warm. Spent 3 hours in LA on Friday while flying home, sunny and hot, big surprise... -Curt On Saturday, October 27, 2018, 8:25:17 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > > Maybe tomorrow I'll give them a shot, certainly Buster didn't like > > sitting inside all day today but it was blustery and miserable... -Curt > > What would Buster have done if you had turned him out into the blustery > miserableness? > Hmmm . fickle weather. It was sunny and 78F today here while two of us ran another 500 ft. of replacement runway light wire (it should have been in conduit the first time). -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] That nasty smell
The two plate ones will do up to 2,000 ft^2 if my memory is right. I think the big one will do rooms up to 5,000 or so. Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Price looks good but this thing is very small. Look at the size compared to the electrical plug. Is it going to be big enough to do the job? How big are the ones that you have? RB On 26/10/2018 4:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: I have 2 ea of 2 plate and one 4 plate (made in USA) models in the original cases. The big one and one regular one have Aluminum cases. The other one has sawdustboard with fake walnut plastic covering. Yes, THis is a great price! A two plate Made in USA model will set you back about $300. Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Oh I probably don’t need it right now I just saw those for cheap and I know it had been a topic of discussion in the past. --FT Sent from iPhone On Oct 26, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: I've got one I can lend you. It was so cheap it didn't come with a fan, so you need to supply that. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On October 25, 2018 10:48:13 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: This is 220V but they probably have 110 too. https://m.banggood.com/AC220V-20g-Ozone-Generator-Long-life-Ozone-Disinfection-Machine-Purifier-p-1119907.html --R Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
Not sure, I took him out a couple times today, once he decided to run around the yard and eat something gross. He's not always smart enough to come in out of the rain... -Curt On Saturday, October 27, 2018, 7:17:21 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > Maybe tomorrow I'll give them a shot, certainly Buster didn't like > sitting inside all day today but it was blustery and miserable... -Curt What would Buster have done if you had turned him out into the blustery miserableness? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
> > > Maybe tomorrow I'll give them a shot, certainly Buster didn't like > > sitting inside all day today but it was blustery and miserable... -Curt > > What would Buster have done if you had turned him out into the blustery > miserableness? > Hmmm . fickle weather. It was sunny and 78F today here while two of us ran another 500 ft. of replacement runway light wire (it should have been in conduit the first time). -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 revival
Thanks Jim! We'll give it a go. Should I be worried about breaking off the stop lever? Jack (son in question) just subscribed to the list also, hi Jack! Best, Tim On Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 2:12 PM Jim Cathey wrote: > 1) the intake manifold has been off for a long time (5 years?) >> ... Suggestions for >> more effective cleaning methods? >> > > After you do all that, I'd hit it with compressed air, see if anything > blows back up and out. > > >> 2) the stop lever is stuck downShould I try to cajole it up? >> > > I would. > > -- Jim > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Boots update
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 23:12:39 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > I can't remember who suggested neets foot oil with bees wax but as it > was raining today I figured I'd take some time with my boots. Good report. > Maybe tomorrow I'll give them a shot, certainly Buster didn't like > sitting inside all day today but it was blustery and miserable... -Curt What would Buster have done if you had turned him out into the blustery miserableness? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Boots update
I can't remember who suggested neets foot oil with bees wax but as it was raining today I figured I'd take some time with my boots. As always I brushed 'em clean first, then oiled with neets foot. I keep a bottle for lantern pump leathers although the boots took so much I'll need another soon. Mixed up my regular beeswax cut about 50% with the oil. I was pleased how easily it works in, I used to warm the boots with a hairdryer, today just sitting near the wood stove was plenty. They absorbed a lot of the mix easily so I left 'em by the fire (not too close, just to stay warm) for a couple hours to soak, then buffed off the excess. The leather feels softer than before so at least something has happened. Maybe tomorrow I'll give them a shot, certainly Buster didn't like sitting inside all day today but it was blustery and miserable... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electrical weirdness
Alternator. I'm going to pull it and take to FLAPS for test, then probably try to get warranty replacement. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On October 27, 2018 2:34:46 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: >Yes, I believe the result of higher current indicates a shorted cell in >the >battery... "It's dead Jim" > >Try a fresh one... > >On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 11:03 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < >mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Follow up. Didn't have time to look at car until today, so it sat >for >> about eight days. Battery is so low it won't even run the air pump >for >> central locking system, let alone start the car. Remove battery, >hook up >> charger, at the 2 amp setting the charger meter says the battery has >almost >> 90% capacity. Increase the charging current to ten amps, then the >meter >> rapidly falls to only 25% capacity. >> >> Does this indicate a bad battery? >> >> I'm going to swap in a good fully charged battery, then go for a >drive to >> see if the weirdness is gone. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '87 300TD >> '95 E300 >> >> On October 18, 2018 9:24:14 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >Just as you describe - low voltage. >> > >> >-D >> > >> > >> >> On Oct 18, 2018, at 9:09 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> What would cause all the instrument cluster warning lights to come >> >on, and >> >> the ASD (traction control) light to flash, and the ABS light to >> >flash? >> >> This happens when I slow down and come to a stop, and the engine >> >speed >> >> drops to a low idle. If I shift to neutral and the engine speeds >up >> >a bit, >> >> or accelerate, then most of the lights go out but the battery >light >> >and the >> >> brake light glow faintly. >> >> >> >> Yesterday I drove my ;95 E300 out to John's Island and back to >> >retrieve a >> >> differential for The White Whale. The battery was low when I >started >> >the >> >> car to depart for J.I., but had enough juice to start the car, >> >barely. I >> >> figured the 40 minute drive would charge up the battery pretty >good, >> >and >> >> indeed the car re-started with no problem. The drive home was >after >> >dark, >> >> and I noticed that the headlights were dim and yellow. >> >> >> >> Today I drove the car to work, and the starter seemed to turn the >> >engine >> >> over slower than normal but it did start right up. It was dark >when >> >I left >> >> the house and again the headlights seemed dim and yellow. When I >> >drove the >> >> car during my lunch brake, I noticed when I pulled into a parking >lot >> >and >> >> came to a stop that the ASD light and the ABS light started >blinking, >> >but >> >> that stopped as soon as I shifted to park. >> >> - >> >> Max >> >> Charleston SC >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >___ >> >http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** WARNING WARNING WARNING
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 13:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > > > On October 27, 2018 at 10:10 AM Craig via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > He has a list of keywords at the bottom, which is against craigslist > > policy, so I clicked on "prohibited". > > W210 for a keyword is OK, but listing a dozen BMW chassis types is > really obnoxious. That's why I clicked "prohibited". Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electrical weirdness
Installed a fully charged battery, big spark when connecting the negative cable. Big draw immediately starts pulling down the battery. Unplugged the glow plug harness so no power can get from relay to plugs. Big drain still there. Left the glow plug harness off, rigged an amp meter, looks like roughly a five amp draw. Now I've got the battery charger on this battery, while I pull fuses and check for the draw to go away. I think the alarm system pulls a big load while it starts up, but that's probably normal. I need to rig up that trouble-shooting light someone described to see if I can speed up the diagnosing step. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On October 27, 2018 2:34:46 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: >Yes, I believe the result of higher current indicates a shorted cell in >the >battery... "It's dead Jim" > >Try a fresh one... > >On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 11:03 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < >mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Follow up. Didn't have time to look at car until today, so it sat >for >> about eight days. Battery is so low it won't even run the air pump >for >> central locking system, let alone start the car. Remove battery, >hook up >> charger, at the 2 amp setting the charger meter says the battery has >almost >> 90% capacity. Increase the charging current to ten amps, then the >meter >> rapidly falls to only 25% capacity. >> >> Does this indicate a bad battery? >> >> I'm going to swap in a good fully charged battery, then go for a >drive to >> see if the weirdness is gone. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '87 300TD >> '95 E300 >> >> On October 18, 2018 9:24:14 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >Just as you describe - low voltage. >> > >> >-D >> > >> > >> >> On Oct 18, 2018, at 9:09 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> What would cause all the instrument cluster warning lights to come >> >on, and >> >> the ASD (traction control) light to flash, and the ABS light to >> >flash? >> >> This happens when I slow down and come to a stop, and the engine >> >speed >> >> drops to a low idle. If I shift to neutral and the engine speeds >up >> >a bit, >> >> or accelerate, then most of the lights go out but the battery >light >> >and the >> >> brake light glow faintly. >> >> >> >> Yesterday I drove my ;95 E300 out to John's Island and back to >> >retrieve a >> >> differential for The White Whale. The battery was low when I >started >> >the >> >> car to depart for J.I., but had enough juice to start the car, >> >barely. I >> >> figured the 40 minute drive would charge up the battery pretty >good, >> >and >> >> indeed the car re-started with no problem. The drive home was >after >> >dark, >> >> and I noticed that the headlights were dim and yellow. >> >> >> >> Today I drove the car to work, and the starter seemed to turn the >> >engine >> >> over slower than normal but it did start right up. It was dark >when >> >I left >> >> the house and again the headlights seemed dim and yellow. When I >> >drove the >> >> car during my lunch brake, I noticed when I pulled into a parking >lot >> >and >> >> came to a stop that the ASD light and the ABS light started >blinking, >> >but >> >> that stopped as soon as I shifted to park. >> >> - >> >> Max >> >> Charleston SC >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >___ >> >http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electrical weirdness
Yes, I believe the result of higher current indicates a shorted cell in the battery... "It's dead Jim" Try a fresh one... On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 11:03 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Follow up. Didn't have time to look at car until today, so it sat for > about eight days. Battery is so low it won't even run the air pump for > central locking system, let alone start the car. Remove battery, hook up > charger, at the 2 amp setting the charger meter says the battery has almost > 90% capacity. Increase the charging current to ten amps, then the meter > rapidly falls to only 25% capacity. > > Does this indicate a bad battery? > > I'm going to swap in a good fully charged battery, then go for a drive to > see if the weirdness is gone. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > > On October 18, 2018 9:24:14 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >Just as you describe - low voltage. > > > >-D > > > > > >> On Oct 18, 2018, at 9:09 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > > wrote: > >> > >> What would cause all the instrument cluster warning lights to come > >on, and > >> the ASD (traction control) light to flash, and the ABS light to > >flash? > >> This happens when I slow down and come to a stop, and the engine > >speed > >> drops to a low idle. If I shift to neutral and the engine speeds up > >a bit, > >> or accelerate, then most of the lights go out but the battery light > >and the > >> brake light glow faintly. > >> > >> Yesterday I drove my ;95 E300 out to John's Island and back to > >retrieve a > >> differential for The White Whale. The battery was low when I started > >the > >> car to depart for J.I., but had enough juice to start the car, > >barely. I > >> figured the 40 minute drive would charge up the battery pretty good, > >and > >> indeed the car re-started with no problem. The drive home was after > >dark, > >> and I noticed that the headlights were dim and yellow. > >> > >> Today I drove the car to work, and the starter seemed to turn the > >engine > >> over slower than normal but it did start right up. It was dark when > >I left > >> the house and again the headlights seemed dim and yellow. When I > >drove the > >> car during my lunch brake, I noticed when I pulled into a parking lot > >and > >> came to a stop that the ASD light and the ABS light started blinking, > >but > >> that stopped as soon as I shifted to park. > >> - > >> Max > >> Charleston SC > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > > >___ > >http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electrical weirdness
Follow up. Didn't have time to look at car until today, so it sat for about eight days. Battery is so low it won't even run the air pump for central locking system, let alone start the car. Remove battery, hook up charger, at the 2 amp setting the charger meter says the battery has almost 90% capacity. Increase the charging current to ten amps, then the meter rapidly falls to only 25% capacity. Does this indicate a bad battery? I'm going to swap in a good fully charged battery, then go for a drive to see if the weirdness is gone. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On October 18, 2018 9:24:14 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >Just as you describe - low voltage. > >-D > > >> On Oct 18, 2018, at 9:09 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: >> >> What would cause all the instrument cluster warning lights to come >on, and >> the ASD (traction control) light to flash, and the ABS light to >flash? >> This happens when I slow down and come to a stop, and the engine >speed >> drops to a low idle. If I shift to neutral and the engine speeds up >a bit, >> or accelerate, then most of the lights go out but the battery light >and the >> brake light glow faintly. >> >> Yesterday I drove my ;95 E300 out to John's Island and back to >retrieve a >> differential for The White Whale. The battery was low when I started >the >> car to depart for J.I., but had enough juice to start the car, >barely. I >> figured the 40 minute drive would charge up the battery pretty good, >and >> indeed the car re-started with no problem. The drive home was after >dark, >> and I noticed that the headlights were dim and yellow. >> >> Today I drove the car to work, and the starter seemed to turn the >engine >> over slower than normal but it did start right up. It was dark when >I left >> the house and again the headlights seemed dim and yellow. When I >drove the >> car during my lunch brake, I noticed when I pulled into a parking lot >and >> came to a stop that the ASD light and the ABS light started blinking, >but >> that stopped as soon as I shifted to park. >> - >> Max >> Charleston SC >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] epub
I took Rick's advice for Calibre. Been reading a book file this morning, no complaints so far. Mitch. > On October 27, 2018 at 1:06 AM fmiser via Mercedes > wrote: > > I use FBReader. I don't know if it is ported anywhere but Linux. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** WARNING WARNING WARNING
> On October 27, 2018 at 10:10 AM Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > He has a list of keywords at the bottom, which is against craigslist > policy, so I clicked on "prohibited". W210 for a keyword is OK, but listing a dozen BMW chassis types is really obnoxious. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] epub
Are you getting the epubs from your local library? I recently discovered our library offers free access to The Economist, using the libraries recommend app. I'll put up with the bulky app for free access to The Economist (Floyd - recent issue has article about ideas for governments to reduce taxes through more efficient use of capital resources, funding repairs to infrastructure, very timely). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On October 26, 2018 10:12:08 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: >Can anybody recommend a decent windows based epub reader that just >helps you view the file, not help send marketing info to the people who >wrote the software or other unwanted side effects> > >Mitch. > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** WARNING WARNING WARNING
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 10:14:28 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > It’s stanced yo Sent it to Copart, ho-ho-ho-yo! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Andy's ML 350 Dissel
What model year was that? On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 11:34 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My sister had one, purchased new. It completely died while she was > driving in rush hour traffic, on a beltway at highway speeds. Very > dangerous situation, had to be towed to dealer for new nannies to replace > the nannies that quit. Once fixed, it was promptly sold. Sister would not > risk that happening again. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Andy's ML 350 Dissel
My sister had one, purchased new. It completely died while she was driving in rush hour traffic, on a beltway at highway speeds. Very dangerous situation, had to be towed to dealer for new nannies to replace the nannies that quit. Once fixed, it was promptly sold. Sister would not risk that happening again. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** WARNING WARNING WARNING
It’s stanced yo --R Sent from iPhone > On Oct 27, 2018, at 10:10 AM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 09:55:56 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > >> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1999-mercedes-e430-sport/6733881536.html > > Ugh ... it certainly does not fit with this demographic ... > > He has a list of keywords at the bottom, which is against craigslist > policy, so I clicked on "prohibited". > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** WARNING WARNING WARNING
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 09:55:56 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1999-mercedes-e430-sport/6733881536.html Ugh ... it certainly does not fit with this demographic ... He has a list of keywords at the bottom, which is against craigslist policy, so I clicked on "prohibited". Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** WARNING WARNING WARNING
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1999-mercedes-e430-sport/6733881536.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Andy's ML 350 Dissel
My Beetle TDI has the DEF filler cap next to the fuel cap behind the fuel door, very convenient. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR who didn’t know about DEF pumps at Truck stops Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 26, 2018, at 11:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 22:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > >> I just want to stick credit card in the pump and stick a nozzle in the >> side of the vehicle. I can't imagine why anybody would buy a bottle of >> the stuff when they could buy it in bulk from a hose at the pump island. > > Which is the way some truck stops are configured for the big boys ... > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
