[MBZ] OT Frogbarge seats (observations on flying)

2019-05-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
First an explanation:    Frog = french.  barge is something that floats 
and may be pushed in any direction.


airbus=frog plane   therefore it is also a frogbus. or a frogbarge.


Its been a while since I flew domestic airlines.   Over the past few 
days, flew 4 flights.   3 of then were on frogbus, A319, 320, 321.   THe 
other was on a 747, designed about 1976-77.   The seats on the 
frogbarges have a "pillow" at the top of the seat cover that forces your 
head forward.  I found the seats to be very uncomfortable because of the 
unnatural head forward position.


Incidentally, the dogde van has "headrests" that protruded in front of 
the seat also, forcing your into a headdown position.   This makes the 
muscles in the back of your neck work all the time to keep your head up 
so you can drive.   It is quite fatiguing.   On the dogde, I noticed the 
rods supporting the headrests looked the same size and spacing as out 
80s MB cars.  So, I pulled one out, and compared it to the MB headrests 
I had.  Bingo!   The van now has 2 blue MB headrests and no longer 
forces you into an uncomfortable position.


The 757 was the 3rd flight, and a long one.   it was noticeably more 
comfortable to sit in the 757 seat.


Some other things have changed a lot.
1.  on all 4 flights, all the window covers were down all the time. 
These were all daylight flights, over the cont. US, and generally good 
visibility.   There was plenty to see.
2.  On the 3rd flight, nearly 10% of the passengers were wheeled onto 
the plane in wheelchairs.  (236 passengers)   I've seen 2-3 wheelchairs 
before, but this jetway had the wheelchairs stacked up like grocery carts.
3.  Probably another 8% had walkers, canes or otherwise needed extra 
time to board.
4.  All flights were near a holiday, but I only saw 1 computer used on a 
plane. (it was a Mac) (I saw maybe a couple tablets)


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Re: [MBZ] Memorial Day Poem

2019-05-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
We spent memorial day with a huge flock of fliers.  A-6, F-4, A1 and 
more, up to F18.  It was a very interesting and also humbling 
experience.   One was the air boss on the USS Midway when the cessna 
landed on it.   The ship's Captain ok'd the landing and the Air Boss 
made it happen.   Also got to see the note the pilot, a ARVN Major 
dropped on the deck.  7 people were in the 2 seat plane.    Had the 
opportunity to talk to many of the pilots and crew members.   What an 
experience.   One other very interesting conversation was with a man who 
trained at Biloxi (T-28) flew fixed and rotary; flew many secret 
missions; was ordered to fly helo for the evacuation of Saigon, but his 
name was not on the list of those who were to be evacuated, and thereby 
saved.   But he and 14 family members did get out.


Another flyer we met flew in WWII, then flew the Navy version of the B24 
on spook missions, and continued to fly Navy until the 1970s.  Good stuff!


The second stanza of Magee's piece is better known.   Nice to see it 
all!   Like seeing all verses of the Star Spangled Banner.


archer75--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/29/19 1:01 PM:
  

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I’ve climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds, — and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of — wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov’ring there,
I’ve chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air . . .

Up, up the long, delirious burning blue
I’ve topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or ever eagle flew —
And, while with silent, lifting mind I’ve trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.

by John Magee, American father, English mother.
Killed flying a British Spitfire at age 19





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Re: [MBZ] SL top

2019-05-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
A VETERANS EXEMPT flag painted on the white top would make a statement, 
confuse most and make it blend with the schwarz car.


Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote on 5/29/19 5:58 AM:

One word: “Wrap”

I’m thinking something like the Minis have, maybe a Confederate battle flag, or 
Gadsden flag, or big Benz logo, or checkerboard... the possibilities are 
endless!  The white would make a great base.

Or Make Benz Great Again sign!

--FT




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Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes

2019-05-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Only way I could get brakes on the 85 107 was pressure bleeding from 
each wheel cyl.   The ABS kept it from bleeding top down, but I could 
bleed the SDL with the same ABS by gravity.   I figgered something was 
stuck in the ABS unit?


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/24/19 1:15 PM:
Ok, I a bled the crap out of it.  I did the bleeder at the abs unit, 
then did all the wheels again started and RR, the LR, RF, LF.  I ran 
about 3qts of fluid thru it.  At all wheels I have clean fluid and no 
bubbles coming out.  Took it out and it still has very little braking. 
Pedal goes probably 3/4 of the way to the floor till any sort of 
braking action happens.  It will stop, but not very fast and would not 
stop pulling a trailer.  Even if the back brakes were not fully 
adjusted out yet it would be better than this.  When I pump the pedal 
it does return but its not an instant return as soon as you left off 
the pedal.  Also, when just holding steady pressure at about the half 
pedal travel or oven 3/4 travel pedal does not sink it seems to stay 
steady.  Also, the red brake lite is on that would come on if the 
parking brake is on, the manual says this indicates a brake problem.  
No joke.  I really do not see how I could still have air in the 
lines.  Brakes are worse than they were before I replaced the rear 
wheel cylinders but they were never very good in the first place.  The 
front calipers and hoses are fairly new also.





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Re: [MBZ] Midwest Tornados

2019-05-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
that is how its been since about 1992.   Unless you get it on radio, 
there is no "news" in the US


Craig via Mercedes wrote on 5/23/19 1:32 PM:

On Thu, 23 May 2019 14:06:25 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7061433/Tornado-strikes-Jefferson-City-Missouri-causing-catastrophic-damage-state-capital.html

Interesting that one has to go to a web site in England to find
information about tornadoes in the midwest U.S.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse

2019-05-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes




Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 5/23/19 10:17 AM:

Just remember that for all Mercedes Benz cars designed after the W126-W124 the 
following applies: "Das
Beste oder nichts ist nichts."





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Re: [MBZ] Insco Update 1995 E300

2019-05-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
they prob'ly only tried the cheepchinetinfoil (aftermarket) supplier.   
Shops that are "insco approved" know how to cut the corners to keep the 
insco happy.


Parts are "sourced" in the software they use.   (urotype 
cheepcihineechit)   not in the software=NLA



Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 5/23/19 5:55 AM:

...

I wonder if they've already tried to get the parts from MB and found them
NLA?
-
Max
Charleston SC





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Re: [MBZ] Insco Update 1995 E300

2019-05-29 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
uh?   they claim to be repair "experts"???    Car-part.com?   Stealer?  
Classic Center? Fleabay.DE?


Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 5/22/19 8:12 PM:

After a week at the Geico / Repair shop, I called the adjuster to see
what's going on.  She says they are having a hard time finding a source of
parts for my old car.  Damage is to the fender, turn signal, front bumper,
and the fender liner.

Unsure of the availability of parts and what the cost will be, she says
they may end up totaling the car if the cost of the parts is too high.

Wow.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: ***SPAM*** OT: "Signal" App

2019-05-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
True, and maybe I’m being too simplistic.  The point being that is if you 
correspond with anyone who does not use the app, your communications will not 
be encrypted. So unless you can get everyone you know on board with Signal, 
you’re sending and receiving unencrypted SMS messages (unless you’re using an 
iPhone and the other part is as well.)

-D


> On May 29, 2019, at 9:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Almost correct - Signal only sends info to other signal apps/users. It's
> not just encrypted SMS. It's the securer alternative to WhatsApp.
> 
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 7:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> It’s for text messaging, so I’m not sure how it would benefit you for
>> online purchases. And yes, it’s an excellent choice for users that want to
>> keep their text messaging encrypted if they’re not using iMessage (Apple)
>> or another encrypted messaging app. It’s not terribly useful as the person
>> on the other end is using a native messaging app, however. In other words,
>> if you send me an SMS message with Signal and I don’t have the app
>> installed on my phone, you’re no more secure than if you were using the
>> native Android messaging app of your choice. The receiving entity has to
>> have Signal on their phone, too for the message to be encrypted.
>> 
>> As for email, if you’re trying to secure that, it’s a whole ‘nother ball
>> game.
>> 
>> And do be aware that your ISP/phone provider is logging everything that
>> goes across the wire, too.
>> 
>> There is so much data being vacuumed up that it’s a complete 'whack a
>> mole” world out there. I’m a security professional with all the tools
>> necessary at my fingertips, and I don’t bother with stuff like this unless
>> I’m doing OSINT or HUMINT work, depending on the entity I’m doing it for.
>> 
>> Going dark takes a LOT of time and energy. There are a lot of nice little
>> tools like browser extensions you can use to keep the amount of personal
>> data that gets scraped to a minimum, but it you want to go all in, and just
>> about anyone can, it takes some serious effort and inconvenience to do so.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2019, at 8:34 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> With all the info out recently about The Googs keeping a database of
>> everything someone purchases through a g mail account I figure that an open
>> source app with good privacy will keep my communications more secure. I use
>> Android, so more risk than apple stuff. Signal is a non-profit, so less
>> incentive to monetize the user.
>>> 
>>> One of my boys is a computer science guy, he recommends it.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
>> Penoff via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 5:22 PM
>>> To: Okie Benz
>>> Cc: Dan Penoff
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: "Signal" App
>>> 
>>> I am aware of it, being a security guy. Why would you need it?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On May 29, 2019, at 7:57 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Anyone use this?
 
 
 
 
>> https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/apps/a25736/signal-app-guide-how-to-use/
 
 
 
 Greg
 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: "Signal" App

2019-05-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
And again, what’s so special about text messaging between family members that 
people are worried about the content being logged?  She does realize that any 
texts you or she sends to non-family members without the app are sent “in the 
clear” anyway, unless both parties are using an Apple device?

This is what I’m talking about. Trying to lock down (all of) your 
communications is very, very difficult.

My family knows there are some subjects you don’t text. That’s easy.

-D
 
> On May 29, 2019, at 8:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes - our paranoid daughter got the whole family to use it. Works fine, and
> is not owned by Fakebook ...
> 
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 6:58 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Anyone use this?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/apps/a25736/signal-app-guide-how-to-use/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
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> OK Don
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: ***SPAM*** OT: "Signal" App

2019-05-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Almost correct - Signal only sends info to other signal apps/users. It's
not just encrypted SMS. It's the securer alternative to WhatsApp.

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 7:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It’s for text messaging, so I’m not sure how it would benefit you for
> online purchases. And yes, it’s an excellent choice for users that want to
> keep their text messaging encrypted if they’re not using iMessage (Apple)
> or another encrypted messaging app. It’s not terribly useful as the person
> on the other end is using a native messaging app, however. In other words,
> if you send me an SMS message with Signal and I don’t have the app
> installed on my phone, you’re no more secure than if you were using the
> native Android messaging app of your choice. The receiving entity has to
> have Signal on their phone, too for the message to be encrypted.
>
> As for email, if you’re trying to secure that, it’s a whole ‘nother ball
> game.
>
> And do be aware that your ISP/phone provider is logging everything that
> goes across the wire, too.
>
> There is so much data being vacuumed up that it’s a complete 'whack a
> mole” world out there. I’m a security professional with all the tools
> necessary at my fingertips, and I don’t bother with stuff like this unless
> I’m doing OSINT or HUMINT work, depending on the entity I’m doing it for.
>
> Going dark takes a LOT of time and energy. There are a lot of nice little
> tools like browser extensions you can use to keep the amount of personal
> data that gets scraped to a minimum, but it you want to go all in, and just
> about anyone can, it takes some serious effort and inconvenience to do so.
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 2019, at 8:34 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > With all the info out recently about The Googs keeping a database of
> everything someone purchases through a g mail account I figure that an open
> source app with good privacy will keep my communications more secure. I use
> Android, so more risk than apple stuff. Signal is a non-profit, so less
> incentive to monetize the user.
> >
> > One of my boys is a computer science guy, he recommends it.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Penoff via Mercedes
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 5:22 PM
> > To: Okie Benz
> > Cc: Dan Penoff
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: "Signal" App
> >
> > I am aware of it, being a security guy. Why would you need it?
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On May 29, 2019, at 7:57 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Anyone use this?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/apps/a25736/signal-app-guide-how-to-use/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Greg
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: "Signal" App

2019-05-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Yes - our paranoid daughter got the whole family to use it. Works fine, and
is not owned by Fakebook ...

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 6:58 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Anyone use this?
>
>
>
>
> https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/apps/a25736/signal-app-guide-how-to-use/
>
>
>
> Greg
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: ***SPAM*** OT: "Signal" App

2019-05-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It’s for text messaging, so I’m not sure how it would benefit you for online 
purchases. And yes, it’s an excellent choice for users that want to keep their 
text messaging encrypted if they’re not using iMessage (Apple) or another 
encrypted messaging app. It’s not terribly useful as the person on the other 
end is using a native messaging app, however. In other words, if you send me an 
SMS message with Signal and I don’t have the app installed on my phone, you’re 
no more secure than if you were using the native Android messaging app of your 
choice. The receiving entity has to have Signal on their phone, too for the 
message to be encrypted.

As for email, if you’re trying to secure that, it’s a whole ‘nother ball game.

And do be aware that your ISP/phone provider is logging everything that goes 
across the wire, too.

There is so much data being vacuumed up that it’s a complete 'whack a mole” 
world out there. I’m a security professional with all the tools necessary at my 
fingertips, and I don’t bother with stuff like this unless I’m doing OSINT or 
HUMINT work, depending on the entity I’m doing it for.

Going dark takes a LOT of time and energy. There are a lot of nice little tools 
like browser extensions you can use to keep the amount of personal data that 
gets scraped to a minimum, but it you want to go all in, and just about anyone 
can, it takes some serious effort and inconvenience to do so.

-D



> On May 29, 2019, at 8:34 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> With all the info out recently about The Googs keeping a database of 
> everything someone purchases through a g mail account I figure that an open 
> source app with good privacy will keep my communications more secure. I use 
> Android, so more risk than apple stuff. Signal is a non-profit, so less 
> incentive to monetize the user.
> 
> One of my boys is a computer science guy, he recommends it.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 5:22 PM
> To: Okie Benz
> Cc: Dan Penoff
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: "Signal" App
> 
> I am aware of it, being a security guy. Why would you need it?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 29, 2019, at 7:57 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone use this?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/apps/a25736/signal-app-guide-how-to-use/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Greg
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: ***SPAM*** OT: "Signal" App

2019-05-29 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
With all the info out recently about The Googs keeping a database of everything 
someone purchases through a g mail account I figure that an open source app 
with good privacy will keep my communications more secure. I use Android, so 
more risk than apple stuff. Signal is a non-profit, so less incentive to 
monetize the user.

One of my boys is a computer science guy, he recommends it.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: "Signal" App

I am aware of it, being a security guy. Why would you need it?

-D

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> Anyone use this?
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> https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/apps/a25736/signal-app-guide-how-to-use/
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: "Signal" App

2019-05-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I am aware of it, being a security guy. Why would you need it?

-D

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: "Signal" App

2019-05-29 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Anyone use this?

 

https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/apps/a25736/signal-app-guide-how-to-use/

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] Memorial Day Poem

2019-05-29 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

https://www.airspacemag.com/daily-planet/70-years-of-slipping-the-surly-bonds-2304171/

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan_Announces_the_Challenger_Disaster


On 29/05/2019 1:01 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
  

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I’ve climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds, — and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of — wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov’ring there,
I’ve chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air . . .

Up, up the long, delirious burning blue
I’ve topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or ever eagle flew —
And, while with silent, lifting mind I’ve trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.

by John Magee, American father, English mother.
Killed flying a British Spitfire at age 19


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Re: [MBZ] Memorial Day Poem

2019-05-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Oh, yes - one of the highlights of the day/night.

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 1:20 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> > Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth...
>
> Anybody else remember when TV transmitters actually
> shut down for the night?  They used to run an air force (?)
> video right before sign-off, with this poem being read
> as the audio.  I don't remember which network did that.
>
> -- Jim
>

-- 
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Another temptation

2019-05-29 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes



 Sorry, something went wrong.

We're working on getting this fixed as soon as we can.

On 5/29/19 2:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

NLA.

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:15 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1226997770810994/

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Re: [MBZ] Memorial Day Poem

2019-05-29 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I have not been to the Air & Space museum for years and watched the 
movie they show, but it used to feature this poem with uplifting 
narration with lots of footage of airplanes flying and music with lots 
of timpanies booming.  Government workers like the timpani booms, it 
apparently seems patriotic, even if the music is like doggerel.


BTW the ASM is amazing, esp the Dulles Annex.  I don't think they have a 
movie with timpani music there though.


--FT

On 5/29/19 2:19 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth...


Anybody else remember when TV transmitters actually
shut down for the night?  They used to run an air force (?)
video right before sign-off, with this poem being read
as the audio.  I don't remember which network did that.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Another temptation

2019-05-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
NLA.

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1226997770810994/
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Re: [MBZ] Memorial Day Poem

2019-05-29 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth...


Anybody else remember when TV transmitters actually
shut down for the night?  They used to run an air force (?)
video right before sign-off, with this poem being read
as the audio.  I don't remember which network did that.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Memorial Day Poem

2019-05-29 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
 
> Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
> And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
> Sunward I’ve climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
> Of sun-split clouds, — and done a hundred things
> You have not dreamed of — wheeled and soared and swung
> High in the sunlit silence. Hov’ring there,
> I’ve chased the shouting wind along, and flung
> My eager craft through footless halls of air . . .
> 
> Up, up the long, delirious burning blue
> I’ve topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
> Where never lark, or ever eagle flew —
> And, while with silent, lifting mind I’ve trod
> The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
> Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.
> 
> by John Magee, American father, English mother.
> Killed flying a British Spitfire at age 19 


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Re: [MBZ] SL top

2019-05-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I haven’t taken the hardtop off the car yet. I’m gonna stash itnin my friend’s 
barn tomorrow when I’ll have some help to unload it. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On May 29, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Or that you did not just take the car over there and install it for the ride 
> home?
> 
> 
>> On 29/05/2019 8:05 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I am kind of surprised it won’t fit inside the suburban.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2019, at 7:33 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Had to strap it to the roof of the Suburban
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] SL top

2019-05-29 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 29 May 2019 04:58:01 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> One word: Rain.
> 
> 
> 
> The key word here is “hard top”.  If he wants to change the color he’ll
> have to paint it.

But he did say, "white headliner," which I figured was inside.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] SL top

2019-05-29 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Or that you did not just take the car over there and install it for the 
ride home?



On 29/05/2019 8:05 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I am kind of surprised it won’t fit inside the suburban.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 29, 2019, at 7:33 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Had to strap it to the roof of the Suburban




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Re: [MBZ] SL top

2019-05-29 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 29/05/2019 5:58 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

One word: “Wrap”

I’m thinking something like the Minis have, maybe a Confederate battle flag, or 
Gadsden flag, or big Benz logo, or checkerboard... the possibilities are 
endless!  The white would make a great base.

Or Make Benz Great Again sign!

--FT

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Re: [MBZ] MAX YOU NEED TO GO GET THIS

2019-05-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The burl wood and wheels indicates it is.  It also has memory drivers 
seat which is also another indicating that it is SE.  SE does not come 
with seat heaters and/or leather by default, those were options even on 
the SE


On 5/29/2019 10:23 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

It appears to have burlwood interior, "special edition" wheels and door
jambs, but no seat heaters and no headlight wipers, so I'm not sure it is a
special edition version.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:56 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


We should at least go check it out, beat on the guy a bit with 10
bennies, and drive it away. It doesn't look TOO bad, the interior looks
half decent (if cleaned up).  for that money it would be hard to go wrong.

--FT

On 5/29/19 10:43 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Hmmm, if I get my insco check...

I love the color silver, not too keen on the black interior.

Paint on the hood and under the headlights looks like hell, maybe too

much

time on gravel roads following too close behind someone.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:14 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/39484995774/

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Re: [MBZ] MAX YOU NEED TO GO GET THIS

2019-05-29 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
It appears to have burlwood interior, "special edition" wheels and door
jambs, but no seat heaters and no headlight wipers, so I'm not sure it is a
special edition version.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> We should at least go check it out, beat on the guy a bit with 10
> bennies, and drive it away. It doesn't look TOO bad, the interior looks
> half decent (if cleaned up).  for that money it would be hard to go wrong.
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/29/19 10:43 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Hmmm, if I get my insco check...
> >
> > I love the color silver, not too keen on the black interior.
> >
> > Paint on the hood and under the headlights looks like hell, maybe too
> much
> > time on gravel roads following too close behind someone.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:14 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/39484995774/
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Schweeeeet 2000 Mercedes-Benz Clk320

2019-05-29 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Offer him $300. Take the key apart, clean the lint out, and drive it away.


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] Schwet 2000 Mercedes-Benz Clk320

$720, custom alligator skins!  Won’t start key won’t turn on ran great
and then it just stop and u got to send off for title

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/330042207624355/

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Re: [MBZ] MAX YOU NEED TO GO GET THIS

2019-05-29 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
We should at least go check it out, beat on the guy a bit with 10 
bennies, and drive it away. It doesn't look TOO bad, the interior looks 
half decent (if cleaned up).  for that money it would be hard to go wrong.


--FT

On 5/29/19 10:43 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Hmmm, if I get my insco check...

I love the color silver, not too keen on the black interior.

Paint on the hood and under the headlights looks like hell, maybe too much
time on gravel roads following too close behind someone.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/39484995774/

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Re: [MBZ] MAX new white whale

2019-05-29 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
When it rains it pours, maybe the insco check will be enough for both this
and the silver E300...

I need to buy some acreage to store all these "projects"
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> waiting for a diesel transplant
>
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Re: [MBZ] MAX YOU NEED TO GO GET THIS

2019-05-29 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Hmmm, if I get my insco check...

I love the color silver, not too keen on the black interior.

Paint on the hood and under the headlights looks like hell, maybe too much
time on gravel roads following too close behind someone.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] SL top

2019-05-29 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
You should have the wrench for installing/removing the top manually. If you 
don’t you need to get one. It’s not difficult to use once you know how.

-D

> On May 29, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The car has it's own on it now, I have not pulled it off yet. The pistons 
> probably don't work so I don't want to fool with it really, but I suppose I 
> should pop it off at some point.  Just a PITA, I have to find someone to help 
> do it
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 5/29/19 9:02 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>> You couldn't mount it on the R129, or the R129 already had a hard top on it?
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2019 at 8:33 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Had to strap it to the roof of the Suburban
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[MBZ] Schweeeeet 2000 Mercedes-Benz Clk320

2019-05-29 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
$720, custom alligator skins!  Won’t start key won’t turn on ran great 
and then it just stop and u got to send off for title


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[MBZ] RUN AWAY RUN AWAY

2019-05-29 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

How bad could it be?

Cars starts and runs great. Has conversion to run on diesel or vegetable 
oil.


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Re: [MBZ] MAX new white whale

2019-05-29 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Wilton's engine would drop right in, we got all the bits

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On 5/29/19 10:22 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

No need for a diesel transplant looks good as is

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waiting for a diesel transplant

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2395275014127544/

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[MBZ] 2007 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 BLUETEC Sedan,$4,995

2019-05-29 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Looks pretty nice

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Re: [MBZ] MAX new white whale

2019-05-29 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
No need for a diesel transplant looks good as is 

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Re: [MBZ] MAX YOU NEED TO GO GET THIS

2019-05-29 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Uhh yea somebody needs to get it 

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[MBZ] MAX new white whale

2019-05-29 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

waiting for a diesel transplant

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[MBZ] Another temptation

2019-05-29 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1226997770810994/

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[MBZ] MAX YOU NEED TO GO GET THIS

2019-05-29 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

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Re: [MBZ] SL top

2019-05-29 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
When I bought one (107) I drove to get it in the SL with the soft top up.
Thus transport was a cinch.  That top is still hanging in the garage.
(I bought it for the defroster glass.)

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Re: [MBZ] SL top

2019-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Yeah me too, needed probably another foot or so clearance to get it in, 
even tilting it


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On 5/29/19 9:05 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I am kind of surprised it won’t fit inside the suburban.

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Re: [MBZ] SL top

2019-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The car has it's own on it now, I have not pulled it off yet. The 
pistons probably don't work so I don't want to fool with it really, but 
I suppose I should pop it off at some point.  Just a PITA, I have to 
find someone to help do it


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On 5/29/19 9:02 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

You couldn't mount it on the R129, or the R129 already had a hard top on it?


On May 29, 2019 at 8:33 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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Had to strap it to the roof of the Suburban

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Re: [MBZ] SL top

2019-05-29 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I am kind of surprised it won’t fit inside the suburban. 

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>> Black and white. 
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Re: [MBZ] SL top

2019-05-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
You couldn't mount it on the R129, or the R129 already had a hard top on it?

> On May 29, 2019 at 8:33 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Had to strap it to the roof of the Suburban

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Re: [MBZ] "Weird" Steering Wheel

2019-05-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Yeah I saw that weird wheel a coupla weeks ago. Maybe like a “Designo” thing?

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> I’ll grab a screen shot later in the day. Sorry.
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>>> On May 29, 2019, at 5:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Someone remarked about one of these wheels a few weeks ago when an oder car 
>>> was posted for sale. These were AMG steering wheels that are considered to 
>>> be fairly rare:
>>> 
>>> https://www.500eboard.co/forums/index.php?threads/mercedes-benz-amg-atiwe-steering-wheel.13252/
>>> 
>>> Just figured I would point this out for reference purposes.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] SL top

2019-05-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Had to strap it to the roof of the Suburban 



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Re: [MBZ] "Weird" Steering Wheel

2019-05-29 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I’ll grab a screen shot later in the day. Sorry.

-D

> On May 29, 2019, at 6:52 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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>> On May 29, 2019, at 5:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Someone remarked about one of these wheels a few weeks ago when an oder car 
>> was posted for sale. These were AMG steering wheels that are considered to 
>> be fairly rare:
>> 
>> https://www.500eboard.co/forums/index.php?threads/mercedes-benz-amg-atiwe-steering-wheel.13252/
>> 
>> Just figured I would point this out for reference purposes.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] SL top

2019-05-29 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Black and white. 
Now you just need a light bar. 
Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT An historical aspect of The Wawwwww

2019-05-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Technological artifacts from the Second Waw of Independence 

https://www.postandcourier.com/news/charleston-lab-restores-civil-war-cannons-pulled-from-pee-dee/article_fc69ac90-8163-11e9-9165-2f4fcb978fe1.html

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Re: [MBZ] SL top

2019-05-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
One word: “Wrap”

I’m thinking something like the Minis have, maybe a Confederate battle flag, or 
Gadsden flag, or big Benz logo, or checkerboard... the possibilities are 
endless!  The white would make a great base. 

Or Make Benz Great Again sign!

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> One word: Rain.
> 
> 
> 
> The key word here is “hard top”.  If he wants to change the color he’ll have 
> to paint it.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 29, 2019, at 12:17 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, 28 May 2019 23:00:32 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> My car is black/black so this is not a match in that regard but it’s
>>> nice to have a good spare I guess. 
>> 
>> One word: dye.
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Re: [MBZ] "Weird" Steering Wheel

2019-05-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Have to set up an account and log in

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> On May 29, 2019, at 5:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> Someone remarked about one of these wheels a few weeks ago when an oder car 
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> fairly rare:
> 
> https://www.500eboard.co/forums/index.php?threads/mercedes-benz-amg-atiwe-steering-wheel.13252/
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[MBZ] "Weird" Steering Wheel

2019-05-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Someone remarked about one of these wheels a few weeks ago when an oder car was 
posted for sale. These were AMG steering wheels that are considered to be 
fairly rare:

https://www.500eboard.co/forums/index.php?threads/mercedes-benz-amg-atiwe-steering-wheel.13252/

Just figured I would point this out for reference purposes.

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Re: [MBZ] SL top

2019-05-29 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
One word: Rain.



The key word here is “hard top”.  If he wants to change the color he’ll have to 
paint it.

-D


> On May 29, 2019, at 12:17 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
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> On Tue, 28 May 2019 23:00:32 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
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>> My car is black/black so this is not a match in that regard but it’s
>> nice to have a good spare I guess. 
> 
> One word: dye.
> 
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