Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

All those reindeer passing gas  (driving around in their SUVs) caused it 
to warm up and be green and warm when Erik the Red settled the place.




Craig via Mercedes 
January 3, 2020 at 11:28 PM
On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 00:00:49 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:


Quite the balmy day!

Indeed!

On the other side of the temperature scale (from my other list),

  We all saw the silly headlines about how Greenland was burning and
  sweltering last summer:
  
https://www.sciencealert.com/greenland-ice-sheet-just-poured-197-billion-tons-of-water-to-the-ocean-in-july

  But now it's winter and Greenland has just recorded its all-time low
  temperature of *-86.8 F* at Summit Station at 23:15 UTC 2 January
  2020, smashing beyond the previous record of -81.9 F.  I wonder what
  the headlines will be this time around.

  https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/obop/sum/met.html


Craig

  

On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:49 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

"Operation Black Glass" 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 00:00:49 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Quite the balmy day!

Indeed!

On the other side of the temperature scale (from my other list),

 We all saw the silly headlines about how Greenland was burning and
 sweltering last summer:
 
https://www.sciencealert.com/greenland-ice-sheet-just-poured-197-billion-tons-of-water-to-the-ocean-in-july

 But now it's winter and Greenland has just recorded its all-time low
 temperature of *-86.8 F* at Summit Station at 23:15 UTC 2 January
 2020, smashing beyond the previous record of -81.9 F.  I wonder what
 the headlines will be this time around.

 https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/obop/sum/met.html


Craig

 
> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:49 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > "Operation Black Glass" 
> > Start time is 0400 
> > Start Date is optional.
> > 18,000 degrees for 11 seconds, followed by slow bake at 5,000 for days
> > following. Local winds may exceed 800 MPH with following over
> > pressure. Try not to stare at the bright light.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Chuckles shows the results of inbreeding.   Lunatic moron: Chuckles the 
Clown.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
January 3, 2020 at 5:48 PM
I was watching a documentary on the UK, specifically the royals, and 
was surprised to learn about how Charles buddied up to the Arab states 
and promoted Muslims to the country. He apparently got a lot of “cred” 
in the Arab world, but the Queen Mum and Dad were apparently not happy.


-D





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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

you have to remember that Merkel, under the whipped topping, is a 
communist.   What the communists have been doing since about 1950, is 
destroying the culture and destabilizing countries form within.    Well, 
actually that is what they did in Russia in the 1910s.   Destabilize, 
get 2 factions fighting each other, then come in to the mess and offer 
"Stability"   Same for mao. Pretended to fight the japanese, then with 
the japanese gone, and the country in tatters, he rolled over the continent.


Merkel is just trying to ruin the EU so the communists can take it 
over.  But she does not see the evil she has unleashed, and that evil 
might destroy her plans.



Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
January 3, 2020 at 5:04 PM
Except that many of these neutral countries don’t let hoardes of 
Muslim “refugees” trample through their borders. Europe under Merkel 
has been decimated and destroyed permanently by this scourge.




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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Herr Mann put it well too.  Combine his argument with Philip's, then 
demand the guy replace BOTH sections with new, as that is the only way 
to do it right.   Or better yet, get him to refund the money and buy the 
2 pieces and do it yourself.


Was the bill paid with a CC?  If so, dispute the charge, get the money 
back, then fix it right.

fmiser via Mercedes 
January 3, 2020 at 3:28 PM

Dimitri wrote:
Not only does the weld look like dog shit but that area was
originally joined together with flanges and bolted
together.  ...cannot be unbolted and separated as was initially
intended.

To me, the ugly weld is disappointing.  If it seals and hold
together, maybe good enough.

But re-engineering?  Failure to repair "in kind"?  Diminish
serviceability by replacing a flange with a welded joint?

THAT is unacceptable



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Re: [MBZ] Aircraft nerding out

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 22:55:54 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_inquiry.aspx

Thanks to you and Kaleb.


> I have a half dozen brand new cabin windows for  DC10's - came as a
> package with the other stuff I wanted at an auction 

Hm ... Have you figured out any use for them?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

and cut out the restriction.   THt is a bigger deal than the ugly 
welds.   But the real deal is why was the flange cut out and not repaired?



Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
January 3, 2020 at 2:52 PM
Post his name on Twitter with pic-or threaten to if they don't clean 
up the

weld.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI



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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it? -- rear bumber

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Hahaha~!!   You spent how many thousands to buy a house just to keep ya 
busy so you leave that crappy bumper alone; besides you parked it at the 
budget rent a car lot so you'd never see it.   That's a lot of work and 
expense just to win a bet!


You know d@@m well that if you walked buy it every day for 30 days, and 
had to look at it, it would be done!



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
January 3, 2020 at 2:39 PM
You would need to leave the Parktronic sensors in the bumper, or you 
would have to find covers for the holes.


Good quality rattle cans (2) would cost about $60-$80 depending on who 
you get it from. No idea what a shop would charge, but I’ve wondered 
if it would be pretty cheap if you walked in with it, said “Paint this 
at your leisure” and asked for a deal with no strings (warranty). 
Can’t imagine it would be that expensive.


If I ever replace the rear bumper on my ML beater truck I may try 
this. I’ve done rattle cans on a W140 front bumper cover and it turned 
out well. I’m holding out for the one year anniversary before I do 
this so I can beat Curley’s bet that I’ll clean it up before that…


-D



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Quite the balmy day!

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:49 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> "Operation Black Glass" 
> Start time is 0400 
> Start Date is optional.
> 18,000 degrees for 11 seconds, followed by slow bake at 5,000 for days
> following. Local winds may exceed 800 MPH with following over pressure. Try
> not
> to stare at the bright light.
> 
> The 72 Perpetual virgins and the 300 "Pearly boys that don't bleed" are
> waiting..
> [look it up, it's in Quran and Hadith... the 73 virgins stay perpetual
> virgins, but the 3
> 00 pearly boys don't bleed. use your own logic to determine who gets
> the action.]
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:30 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> shoulda all been turned to glass by 0800 on Sept 12 2001.  Nothin there
>> anyone needs.
>> 
>>> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>> January 3, 2020 at 8:48 AM
>>> Good observations.
>>> 
>>> I say we take off and nuke the whole site from orbit. It’s the only
>>> way to be sure.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Aircraft nerding out

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https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_inquiry.aspx

I have a half dozen brand new cabin windows for  DC10's - came as a package
with the other stuff I wanted at an auction 

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:52 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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>
> https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=N68052
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:42 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 22:35:23 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Often times when I am watching movies or TV shows and there is an
> >> aircraft that has an N number I can see I sometimes look them up
> >> online. I am current watching The Shining from 1980 and am at the scene
> >> of a Continental DC 10 flying and looked it up. Plane was built in 1974
> >> and is still in service with Fedex. Anyway, just a little airplane nerd
> >> fact for anybody who might care.
> >
> > Yup, that's nerdy, all right.
> >
> > Where do you look them up? (I'm a nerd, too.)
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Aircraft nerding out

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=N68052

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:42 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 22:35:23 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Often times when I am watching movies or TV shows and there is an
>> aircraft that has an N number I can see I sometimes look them up
>> online. I am current watching The Shining from 1980 and am at the scene
>> of a Continental DC 10 flying and looked it up. Plane was built in 1974
>> and is still in service with Fedex. Anyway, just a little airplane nerd
>> fact for anybody who might care. 
> 
> Yup, that's nerdy, all right.
> 
> Where do you look them up? (I'm a nerd, too.)
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[G Mann via Mercedes]

"Operation Black Glass" 
Start time is 0400 
Start Date is optional.
18,000 degrees for 11 seconds, followed by slow bake at 5,000 for days
following. Local winds may exceed 800 MPH with following over pressure. Try
not
to stare at the bright light.

The 72 Perpetual virgins and the 300 "Pearly boys that don't bleed" are
waiting..
[look it up, it's in Quran and Hadith... the 73 virgins stay perpetual
virgins, but the 3
00 pearly boys don't bleed. use your own logic to determine who gets
the action.]



On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 9:30 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> shoulda all been turned to glass by 0800 on Sept 12 2001.  Nothin there
> anyone needs.
>
> > Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> > January 3, 2020 at 8:48 AM
> > Good observations.
> >
> > I say we take off and nuke the whole site from orbit. It’s the only
> > way to be sure.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

THAT level of quality should not cost over $40.   $24 is more like it.

No, you are not being too fussy.   The dude needs to LOOK at the crap he 
(his welder guy) is turning out.    And , no, I could not do any better 
unless I practiced for at least a half hour.


My FCAW is pretty ugly.    If I had GMAW available, I could do better. I 
think the nicest welds I ever did was DC stick with the WWII era motor 
generator.



Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
January 3, 2020 at 12:52 PM
My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in 
the Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I 
will not name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based 
on my experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical 
repairs. His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction 
to him regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he 
politely defended the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for 
me to show him what I found unsatisfactory. There was another area 
that was repaired in a similar manner. The total cost was $425 for the 
welding. What do you guys think of this repair? Am I being too fussy here?





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Re: [MBZ] Aircraft nerding out

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 22:35:23 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Often times when I am watching movies or TV shows and there is an
> aircraft that has an N number I can see I sometimes look them up
> online. I am current watching The Shining from 1980 and am at the scene
> of a Continental DC 10 flying and looked it up. Plane was built in 1974
> and is still in service with Fedex. Anyway, just a little airplane nerd
> fact for anybody who might care. 

Yup, that's nerdy, all right.

Where do you look them up? (I'm a nerd, too.)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Aircraft nerding out

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Quite interesting 

--FT
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> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Often times when I am watching movies or TV shows and there is an aircraft 
> that has an N number I can see I sometimes look them up online. I am current 
> watching The Shining from 1980 and am at the scene of a Continental DC 10 
> flying and looked it up. Plane was built in 1974 and is still in service with 
> Fedex. Anyway, just a little airplane nerd fact for anybody who might care. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2020?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 22:24:04 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Every time I've tried SW, they are way higher than any other airline.  
> the one way looks good for a round trip, but by the time you add the 
> return, it is high.

I guess it depends upon where you want to go.

I have always found them lower than the others.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 4 Jan 2020 02:22:57 + (UTC) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

>  I don't know that Upton Sinclair and Sinclair Lewis have any
> correlation.

Well, in that high school, I was told Sinclair Lewis was named after
Upton Sinclair and Upton Sinclair was not happy about it.


> Upton Sinclair wrote "The Jungle" about bad practices in meat packing
> plants...

That would certainly explain Dan's reference!


Craig

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[MBZ] Aircraft nerding out

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Often times when I am watching movies or TV shows and there is an aircraft that 
has an N number I can see I sometimes look them up online. I am current 
watching The Shining from 1980 and am at the scene of a Continental DC 10 
flying and looked it up. Plane was built in 1974 and is still in service with 
Fedex. Anyway, just a little airplane nerd fact for anybody who might care. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

which is why the whole place shoulda been glass on 08:01 on 12 Sept, 2001.


G Mann via Mercedes 
January 3, 2020 at 10:08 AM
All valid arguments. However, there is one factor not considered.
That factor is the imposition of Islam in the region, centuries ago.
Islam is a violent cult devoted to world conquest by any force available.
It is not now, nor has it ever been, a religion.
That factor has nothing to do with oil. Oil is only a resource to fund the
purchase of weapons to further the conquest of the world for Islam.

Ask any Muslim you meet this one question: "What will become of Islam?"
The answer will always be: "Islam will rule the world."

Take it from someone who lived in Mideast and worked for your 
government to

unravel the Gordian Knot for two decades.

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 8:53 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Agreed.   When Saddam was fighting the aye ya toljas,  It was pretty 
close to the ideal.



Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
January 3, 2020 at 9:48 AM
Could be why the Turks neatly dumped Iraq on the British after WWI.

It's stupid to play over there -- very little other than oil, and if 
we wean ourselves off wasting petroleum, the inhabitants of the middle 
east can battle each other over sand dunes forever with no impact 
beyond that.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

shoulda all been turned to glass by 0800 on Sept 12 2001.  Nothin there 
anyone needs.



Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
January 3, 2020 at 8:48 AM
Good observations.

I say we take off and nuke the whole site from orbit. It’s the only 
way to be sure.




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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2020?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Every time I've tried SW, they are way higher than any other airline.  
the one way looks good for a round trip, but by the time you add the 
return, it is high.



Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
January 3, 2020 at 11:26 AM
Might look at SWA then. It has been years since I have flown them as 
it seems AA ends up being the same price anyway.




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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2020?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Send me your miles so I can get a ticket too!

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
January 3, 2020 at 11:14 AM
Let me know so I can look at flights. Right now they are fairly 
reasonable going into Boston. A little more flying into Providence.




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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My dealer trained indy tech swears by Meinicke's welders.

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 11:04 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> As a quick alternative, I suggest a trip, with the car, to your local Midas
> Muffler Shop [or your local equal]. There, they will have tubing, sizing
> equipment, and proper welding skills and equipment to remove the damaged
> mess and replace it with proper exhaust materials, quickly...
> Should be a drive in, inspect, explain the issue, fix it... drive away...
> for small money.
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 8:57 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes I think the exhaust is “fixed”. When I get a tig welder, I will cut
> > out that atrocity and re-weld it properly.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:49 PM, Dwight Giles 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > So Dimitri- the bottom line-is your mother safe from exhaust leaks?
> > > I get that you don't want to sue the bastages so the real questionzat
> > least for now are there,any exhaust leaks.
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 2:16 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> What’s scary is that this is a welding professional. How could you be
> > so incompetent at your job when that’s all you do? How could you go home
> at
> > night feeling any satisfaction with your day’s accomplishments?
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > I mean if it works and does not leak, ok. But for that price I would
> > expect it to look a lot better than that. I could probably do similar
> with
> > my HF welder.
> > >> >
> > >> > Sent from my iPhone
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop
> > in the Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I
> > will not name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on
> my
> > experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs.
> > His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him
> > regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely
> defended
> > the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I
> > found unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a
> similar
> > manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys think
> of
> > this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

As a quick alternative, I suggest a trip, with the car, to your local Midas
Muffler Shop [or your local equal]. There, they will have tubing, sizing
equipment, and proper welding skills and equipment to remove the damaged
mess and replace it with proper exhaust materials, quickly...
Should be a drive in, inspect, explain the issue, fix it... drive away...
for small money.

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 8:57 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes I think the exhaust is “fixed”. When I get a tig welder, I will cut
> out that atrocity and re-weld it properly.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:49 PM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> >
> > So Dimitri- the bottom line-is your mother safe from exhaust leaks?
> > I get that you don't want to sue the bastages so the real questionzat
> least for now are there,any exhaust leaks.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 2:16 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> What’s scary is that this is a welding professional. How could you be
> so incompetent at your job when that’s all you do? How could you go home at
> night feeling any satisfaction with your day’s accomplishments?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I mean if it works and does not leak, ok. But for that price I would
> expect it to look a lot better than that. I could probably do similar with
> my HF welder.
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop
> in the Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I
> will not name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my
> experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs.
> His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him
> regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely defended
> the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I
> found unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a similar
> manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys think of
> this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yes I think the exhaust is “fixed”. When I get a tig welder, I will cut out 
that atrocity and re-weld it properly.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:49 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> So Dimitri- the bottom line-is your mother safe from exhaust leaks?
> I get that you don't want to sue the bastages so the real questionzat least 
> for now are there,any exhaust leaks. 
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 2:16 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> What’s scary is that this is a welding professional. How could you be so 
>> incompetent at your job when that’s all you do? How could you go home at 
>> night feeling any satisfaction with your day’s accomplishments? 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > I mean if it works and does not leak, ok. But for that price I would 
>> > expect it to look a lot better than that. I could probably do similar with 
>> > my HF welder. 
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > 
>> >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the 
>> >> Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will 
>> >> not name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my 
>> >> experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs. 
>> >> His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him 
>> >> regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely 
>> >> defended the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show 
>> >> him what I found unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired 
>> >> in a similar manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you 
>> >> guys think of this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Great point!

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:50 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So Dimitri- the bottom line-is your mother safe from exhaust leaks?
> I get that you don't want to sue the bastages so the real questionzat least
> for now are there,any exhaust leaks.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 2:16 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > What’s scary is that this is a welding professional. How could you be so
> > incompetent at your job when that’s all you do? How could you go home at
> > night feeling any satisfaction with your day’s accomplishments?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jan 3, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I mean if it works and does not leak, ok. But for that price I would
> > expect it to look a lot better than that. I could probably do similar
> with
> > my HF welder.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in
> > the Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I
> will
> > not name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my
> > experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs.
> > His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him
> > regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely
> defended
> > the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I
> > found unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a
> similar
> > manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys think
> of
> > this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

So Dimitri- the bottom line-is your mother safe from exhaust leaks?
I get that you don't want to sue the bastages so the real questionzat least
for now are there,any exhaust leaks.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 2:16 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What’s scary is that this is a welding professional. How could you be so
> incompetent at your job when that’s all you do? How could you go home at
> night feeling any satisfaction with your day’s accomplishments?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I mean if it works and does not leak, ok. But for that price I would
> expect it to look a lot better than that. I could probably do similar with
> my HF welder.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in
> the Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will
> not name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my
> experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs.
> His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him
> regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely defended
> the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I
> found unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a similar
> manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys think of
> this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
> >>
> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D -rear window wipes (outer)

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Dan, do you know of a bulk supplier in the US?
Yes I’m talking about the outer window scrapers. 
I found this one but it is in UK.   Does this one look like the correct profile?

https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/product/1734/window-weatherstrip

Thanks,
Mike




> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Do you mean the window scrapers? The rubber seal on the outside of the 
> window that is clipped onto the door along with the molding?
> 
> If so, you can find it in bulk online from non-MB suppliers, I believe. What 
> you get from MB is a bulk piece you have to cut to size. Been that way for 
> years.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Just got info from Tom at the Classic Center. He quoted The rear outer 
>> window wipes are $107.00 each.  Mine are falling apart but I can’t see 
>> spending that much.  Does anyone know of any aftermarket or any other 
>> solutions?
>> Thanks,
>> Mike
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yes, I believe the exhaust is stainless and therefore should have been welded 
with stainless wire or ideally tig welded. That being said, I have mig welded 
stainless exhausts with non stainless wire and the results were beautiful so I 
do believe the problem here was due to  complete incompetence on the part of 
the welder (the person operating the welding machine that is).

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 9:20 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dimitri says:
> 
>> Looks like mig not sure if with shielding gas or flux core. 
> 
> I wonder if the exhaust is some grade of stainless? There is some stainless 
> that has enough ferrous material in it to be somewhat magnetic. That would 
> explain why the welds look like that. Welder dude used the wrong wire and 
> shielding gas. 
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D -rear window wipes (outer)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Do NOT buy the cheapo non OEM window scrapers!  They don't  work. I  spring
for the OEMs from Tom and they work great - well worth it.  Request the
club discount.

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 8:42 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes & my MB Indy says you can piece it together -this after I bought long
> pieces for my big 123 300 CD doors. Got in England. Not cheap. Ecklers
> Performance4Benz had some. Some same for R107 & 126.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Do you mean the window scrapers? The rubber seal on the outside of the
> > window that is clipped onto the door along with the molding?
> >
> > If so, you can find it in bulk online from non-MB suppliers, I believe.
> > What you get from MB is a bulk piece you have to cut to size. Been that
> way
> > for years.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just got info from Tom at the Classic Center. He quoted The rear outer
> > window wipes are $107.00 each.  Mine are falling apart but I can’t see
> > spending that much.  Does anyone know of any aftermarket or any other
> > solutions?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mike
> > >
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> > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I don't know that Upton Sinclair and Sinclair Lewis have any correlation. 
Upton Sinclair wrote "The Jungle" about bad practices in meat packing plants...
-Curt

On Friday, January 3, 2020, 8:58:32 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 06:50:31 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Look at the ingredients - turkey, turkey, turkey. And floor sweepings.
> 
> Where’s Upton Sinclair when you need him?

For those of us who haven't heard anything about Upton Sinclair since
reading Sinclair Lewis in high school, what is the reference, Dan?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Dimitri says:

>Looks like mig not sure if with shielding gas or flux core. 

I wonder if the exhaust is some grade of stainless? There is some stainless 
that has enough ferrous material in it to be somewhat magnetic. That would 
explain why the welds look like that. Welder dude used the wrong wire and 
shielding gas. 

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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Mercedes 280SE 4.5 - $6000 (Hanahan)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The fuzzy dash cover suggests the top of the dash is toast.

Maybe $2K and that is a stretch.

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:43 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> I hadn’t looked at this until I saw Jaime’s comments. Wow.
>
> And for what it’s worth, I never understood the attraction of putting
> something like a Nardi wheel on one of these cars. Maybe on a 1950s/60s two
> seater sports car, possibly, but a Mercedes sedan? Nope, don’t get it.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 2:34 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Steering wheels are easy to change.  But whoever put that long piece of
> > hose on the aux air valve has no business working on these cars.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:49 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> >
> >> The steering wheel is a total turnoff
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:38 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
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[MBZ] Window seal wipes 240 300d etc

[Rick Hawkins Java Letterpress Cycles Photon via Mercedes]

> 
> There are lots of them on ebay

Some $10 and some 4 for $75 etc

Better than $100 each

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Mercedes+300d+window+seal&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=15

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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 06:50:31 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Look at the ingredients - turkey, turkey, turkey. And floor sweepings.
> 
> Where’s Upton Sinclair when you need him?

For those of us who haven't heard anything about Upton Sinclair since
reading Sinclair Lewis in high school, what is the reference, Dan?


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Re: [MBZ] OT Hog advice

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On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 19:20:59 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I thought they were from making calves into steers ...

Yes, Rocky Mountain Oysters are the difference between bulls and steers.


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D -rear window wipes (outer)

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes & my MB Indy says you can piece it together -this after I bought long
pieces for my big 123 300 CD doors. Got in England. Not cheap. Ecklers
Performance4Benz had some. Some same for R107 & 126.

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 7:09 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Do you mean the window scrapers? The rubber seal on the outside of the
> window that is clipped onto the door along with the molding?
>
> If so, you can find it in bulk online from non-MB suppliers, I believe.
> What you get from MB is a bulk piece you have to cut to size. Been that way
> for years.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Just got info from Tom at the Classic Center. He quoted The rear outer
> window wipes are $107.00 each.  Mine are falling apart but I can’t see
> spending that much.  Does anyone know of any aftermarket or any other
> solutions?
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> > Mike
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 240D -rear window wipes (outer)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Do you mean the window scrapers? The rubber seal on the outside of the window 
that is clipped onto the door along with the molding?

If so, you can find it in bulk online from non-MB suppliers, I believe. What 
you get from MB is a bulk piece you have to cut to size. Been that way for 
years.

-D


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
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> 
> Just got info from Tom at the Classic Center. He quoted The rear outer window 
> wipes are $107.00 each.  Mine are falling apart but I can’t see spending that 
> much.  Does anyone know of any aftermarket or any other solutions?
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Based on what I saw about him buddying up with the Arab states, I can’t imagine 
it was too upsetting.

-D


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> I wonder how Charles felt about Dodi boinking Diana.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I was watching a documentary on the UK, specifically the royals, and was 
>> surprised to learn about how Charles buddied up to the Arab states and 
>> promoted Muslims to the country. He apparently got a lot of “cred” in the 
>> Arab world, but the Queen Mum and Dad were apparently not happy.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:45 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes France and UK are the worst. Thanks to the E.U. policies which are 
>>> dictated mostly by Germany, countries such as Italy and Greece and others 
>>> have been inundated by these people. Hungary was smart and finally closed 
>>> its borders.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 You could say much the same for France or the UK, but the UK has been 
 doing this for a while based on colonialism..
 
 -D
 
 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  
> wrote:
> 
> Except that many of these neutral countries don’t let hoardes of Muslim 
> “refugees” trample through their borders. Europe under Merkel has been 
> decimated and destroyed permanently by this scourge.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> True. The Swiss really do it right. Nordic countries aren’t far away 
>> from this approach, either.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Clay via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The best foreign policy ever employed by the US has been to stay the 
>>> heck out of other peoples business and tidy up our own internal issues. 
>>>  Not that we have employed that line of action in forever.  
>>> 
>>> Whenever we decide to meddle, the banana republic or other backward 
>>> terrain becomes a pustulant sore in our backside.  We have no “national 
>>> interest” in any of these places and should resolve to show restraint 
>>> in dealing with other nations.  Just pull it all back to home shores, 
>>> navigate the world oceans with our big stick navy, and trim our 
>>> footprint on foreign soil to the most basic of services needed to meet 
>>> the needs of US citizens who visit these third world cesspools.  No 
>>> propping up dictators, overthrowing duly elected miscreants, play Spy 
>>> vs. Spy, supporting rapacious fruit plantations or other business 
>>> dealings.  Screw NAFTA and the rest of the open world trade policy 
>>> crap.  Make the things we need here, jack the tariffs on outside goods, 
>>> and trim the Department of State, CIA, NSA, and other multi-alphabet 
>>> agencies to the bone.
>>> 
>>> In my many decades of living outside the good old USA, the only nation 
>>> that did not go sideways were the Swiss.  All the rest have 
>>> transitioned into less welcoming places for our citizens to live or 
>>> visit, let alone do business.
>>> 
>>> Just my $0.02.
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 This is my thought. Everything anybody from the west has ever done in 
 the middle east has turned into poo. Why keep trying?
 -Curt
 
 On Friday, January 3, 2020, 10:53:57 AM EST, Peter Frederick via 
 Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 Could be why the Turks neatly dumped Iraq on the British after WWI.  
 
 It's stupid to play over there -- very little other than oil, and if 
 we wean ourselves off wasting petroleum, the inhabitants of the middle 
 east can battle each other over sand dunes forever with no impact 
 beyond that. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> clay monroe
>>> 
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>>> what I'm looking for didn't fall out.
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[MBZ] 1983 240D -rear window wipes (outer)

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Just got info from Tom at the Classic Center. He quoted The rear outer window 
wipes are $107.00 each.  Mine are falling apart but I can’t see spending that 
much.  Does anyone know of any aftermarket or any other solutions?
Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I wonder how Charles felt about Dodi boinking Diana.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I was watching a documentary on the UK, specifically the royals, and was 
> surprised to learn about how Charles buddied up to the Arab states and 
> promoted Muslims to the country. He apparently got a lot of “cred” in the 
> Arab world, but the Queen Mum and Dad were apparently not happy.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:45 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes France and UK are the worst. Thanks to the E.U. policies which are 
>> dictated mostly by Germany, countries such as Italy and Greece and others 
>> have been inundated by these people. Hungary was smart and finally closed 
>> its borders.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You could say much the same for France or the UK, but the UK has been doing 
>>> this for a while based on colonialism..
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
 
 Except that many of these neutral countries don’t let hoardes of Muslim 
 “refugees” trample through their borders. Europe under Merkel has been 
 decimated and destroyed permanently by this scourge.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> True. The Swiss really do it right. Nordic countries aren’t far away from 
> this approach, either.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Clay via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The best foreign policy ever employed by the US has been to stay the 
>> heck out of other peoples business and tidy up our own internal issues.  
>> Not that we have employed that line of action in forever.  
>> 
>> Whenever we decide to meddle, the banana republic or other backward 
>> terrain becomes a pustulant sore in our backside.  We have no “national 
>> interest” in any of these places and should resolve to show restraint in 
>> dealing with other nations.  Just pull it all back to home shores, 
>> navigate the world oceans with our big stick navy, and trim our 
>> footprint on foreign soil to the most basic of services needed to meet 
>> the needs of US citizens who visit these third world cesspools.  No 
>> propping up dictators, overthrowing duly elected miscreants, play Spy 
>> vs. Spy, supporting rapacious fruit plantations or other business 
>> dealings.  Screw NAFTA and the rest of the open world trade policy crap. 
>>  Make the things we need here, jack the tariffs on outside goods, and 
>> trim the Department of State, CIA, NSA, and other multi-alphabet 
>> agencies to the bone.
>> 
>> In my many decades of living outside the good old USA, the only nation 
>> that did not go sideways were the Swiss.  All the rest have transitioned 
>> into less welcoming places for our citizens to live or visit, let alone 
>> do business.
>> 
>> Just my $0.02.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is my thought. Everything anybody from the west has ever done in 
>>> the middle east has turned into poo. Why keep trying?
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> On Friday, January 3, 2020, 10:53:57 AM EST, Peter Frederick via 
>>> Mercedes  wrote:  
>>> 
>>> Could be why the Turks neatly dumped Iraq on the British after WWI.  
>>> 
>>> It's stupid to play over there -- very little other than oil, and if we 
>>> wean ourselves off wasting petroleum, the inhabitants of the middle 
>>> east can battle each other over sand dunes forever with no impact 
>>> beyond that. 
>> 
>> 
>> clay monroe
>> 
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>> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I was watching a documentary on the UK, specifically the royals, and was 
surprised to learn about how Charles buddied up to the Arab states and promoted 
Muslims to the country. He apparently got a lot of “cred” in the Arab world, 
but the Queen Mum and Dad were apparently not happy.

-D


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:45 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> Yes France and UK are the worst. Thanks to the E.U. policies which are 
> dictated mostly by Germany, countries such as Italy and Greece and others 
> have been inundated by these people. Hungary was smart and finally closed its 
> borders.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You could say much the same for France or the UK, but the UK has been doing 
>> this for a while based on colonialism..
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Except that many of these neutral countries don’t let hoardes of Muslim 
>>> “refugees” trample through their borders. Europe under Merkel has been 
>>> decimated and destroyed permanently by this scourge.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 True. The Swiss really do it right. Nordic countries aren’t far away from 
 this approach, either.
 
 -D
 
 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Clay via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The best foreign policy ever employed by the US has been to stay the heck 
> out of other peoples business and tidy up our own internal issues.  Not 
> that we have employed that line of action in forever.  
> 
> Whenever we decide to meddle, the banana republic or other backward 
> terrain becomes a pustulant sore in our backside.  We have no “national 
> interest” in any of these places and should resolve to show restraint in 
> dealing with other nations.  Just pull it all back to home shores, 
> navigate the world oceans with our big stick navy, and trim our footprint 
> on foreign soil to the most basic of services needed to meet the needs of 
> US citizens who visit these third world cesspools.  No propping up 
> dictators, overthrowing duly elected miscreants, play Spy vs. Spy, 
> supporting rapacious fruit plantations or other business dealings.  Screw 
> NAFTA and the rest of the open world trade policy crap.  Make the things 
> we need here, jack the tariffs on outside goods, and trim the Department 
> of State, CIA, NSA, and other multi-alphabet agencies to the bone.
> 
> In my many decades of living outside the good old USA, the only nation 
> that did not go sideways were the Swiss.  All the rest have transitioned 
> into less welcoming places for our citizens to live or visit, let alone 
> do business.
> 
> Just my $0.02.
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This is my thought. Everything anybody from the west has ever done in 
>> the middle east has turned into poo. Why keep trying?
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Friday, January 3, 2020, 10:53:57 AM EST, Peter Frederick via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:  
>> 
>> Could be why the Turks neatly dumped Iraq on the British after WWI.  
>> 
>> It's stupid to play over there -- very little other than oil, and if we 
>> wean ourselves off wasting petroleum, the inhabitants of the middle east 
>> can battle each other over sand dunes forever with no impact beyond 
>> that. 
> 
> 
> clay monroe
> 
> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what 
> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yes France and UK are the worst. Thanks to the E.U. policies which are dictated 
mostly by Germany, countries such as Italy and Greece and others have been 
inundated by these people. Hungary was smart and finally closed its borders.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You could say much the same for France or the UK, but the UK has been doing 
> this for a while based on colonialism..
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>> 
>> Except that many of these neutral countries don’t let hoardes of Muslim 
>> “refugees” trample through their borders. Europe under Merkel has been 
>> decimated and destroyed permanently by this scourge.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> True. The Swiss really do it right. Nordic countries aren’t far away from 
>>> this approach, either.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Clay via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 The best foreign policy ever employed by the US has been to stay the heck 
 out of other peoples business and tidy up our own internal issues.  Not 
 that we have employed that line of action in forever.  
 
 Whenever we decide to meddle, the banana republic or other backward 
 terrain becomes a pustulant sore in our backside.  We have no “national 
 interest” in any of these places and should resolve to show restraint in 
 dealing with other nations.  Just pull it all back to home shores, 
 navigate the world oceans with our big stick navy, and trim our footprint 
 on foreign soil to the most basic of services needed to meet the needs of 
 US citizens who visit these third world cesspools.  No propping up 
 dictators, overthrowing duly elected miscreants, play Spy vs. Spy, 
 supporting rapacious fruit plantations or other business dealings.  Screw 
 NAFTA and the rest of the open world trade policy crap.  Make the things 
 we need here, jack the tariffs on outside goods, and trim the Department 
 of State, CIA, NSA, and other multi-alphabet agencies to the bone.
 
 In my many decades of living outside the good old USA, the only nation 
 that did not go sideways were the Swiss.  All the rest have transitioned 
 into less welcoming places for our citizens to live or visit, let alone do 
 business.
 
 Just my $0.02.
 
 clay
 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is my thought. Everything anybody from the west has ever done in the 
> middle east has turned into poo. Why keep trying?
> -Curt
> 
> On Friday, January 3, 2020, 10:53:57 AM EST, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Could be why the Turks neatly dumped Iraq on the British after WWI.  
> 
> It's stupid to play over there -- very little other than oil, and if we 
> wean ourselves off wasting petroleum, the inhabitants of the middle east 
> can battle each other over sand dunes forever with no impact beyond that. 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You could say much the same for France or the UK, but the UK has been doing 
this for a while based on colonialism..

-D


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> Except that many of these neutral countries don’t let hoardes of Muslim 
> “refugees” trample through their borders. Europe under Merkel has been 
> decimated and destroyed permanently by this scourge.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> True. The Swiss really do it right. Nordic countries aren’t far away from 
>> this approach, either.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The best foreign policy ever employed by the US has been to stay the heck 
>>> out of other peoples business and tidy up our own internal issues.  Not 
>>> that we have employed that line of action in forever.  
>>> 
>>> Whenever we decide to meddle, the banana republic or other backward terrain 
>>> becomes a pustulant sore in our backside.  We have no “national interest” 
>>> in any of these places and should resolve to show restraint in dealing with 
>>> other nations.  Just pull it all back to home shores, navigate the world 
>>> oceans with our big stick navy, and trim our footprint on foreign soil to 
>>> the most basic of services needed to meet the needs of US citizens who 
>>> visit these third world cesspools.  No propping up dictators, overthrowing 
>>> duly elected miscreants, play Spy vs. Spy, supporting rapacious fruit 
>>> plantations or other business dealings.  Screw NAFTA and the rest of the 
>>> open world trade policy crap.  Make the things we need here, jack the 
>>> tariffs on outside goods, and trim the Department of State, CIA, NSA, and 
>>> other multi-alphabet agencies to the bone.
>>> 
>>> In my many decades of living outside the good old USA, the only nation that 
>>> did not go sideways were the Swiss.  All the rest have transitioned into 
>>> less welcoming places for our citizens to live or visit, let alone do 
>>> business.
>>> 
>>> Just my $0.02.
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 This is my thought. Everything anybody from the west has ever done in the 
 middle east has turned into poo. Why keep trying?
 -Curt
 
 On Friday, January 3, 2020, 10:53:57 AM EST, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
  wrote:  
 
 Could be why the Turks neatly dumped Iraq on the British after WWI.  
 
 It's stupid to play over there -- very little other than oil, and if we 
 wean ourselves off wasting petroleum, the inhabitants of the middle east 
 can battle each other over sand dunes forever with no impact beyond that. 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
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[MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I did the upgrade on my main PC yesterday and it failed for some reason 
and reverted back to win 7.  Problem is the registration key seems to 
have vanished.  It now says it is not registered. Anybody heard of 
this?  I can't locate my win 7 installation cd with the key on it.  I 
guess I may end up having to buy windows 10.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Except that many of these neutral countries don’t let hoardes of Muslim 
“refugees” trample through their borders. Europe under Merkel has been 
decimated and destroyed permanently by this scourge.

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> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> True. The Swiss really do it right. Nordic countries aren’t far away from 
> this approach, either.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> The best foreign policy ever employed by the US has been to stay the heck 
>> out of other peoples business and tidy up our own internal issues.  Not that 
>> we have employed that line of action in forever.  
>> 
>> Whenever we decide to meddle, the banana republic or other backward terrain 
>> becomes a pustulant sore in our backside.  We have no “national interest” in 
>> any of these places and should resolve to show restraint in dealing with 
>> other nations.  Just pull it all back to home shores, navigate the world 
>> oceans with our big stick navy, and trim our footprint on foreign soil to 
>> the most basic of services needed to meet the needs of US citizens who visit 
>> these third world cesspools.  No propping up dictators, overthrowing duly 
>> elected miscreants, play Spy vs. Spy, supporting rapacious fruit plantations 
>> or other business dealings.  Screw NAFTA and the rest of the open world 
>> trade policy crap.  Make the things we need here, jack the tariffs on 
>> outside goods, and trim the Department of State, CIA, NSA, and other 
>> multi-alphabet agencies to the bone.
>> 
>> In my many decades of living outside the good old USA, the only nation that 
>> did not go sideways were the Swiss.  All the rest have transitioned into 
>> less welcoming places for our citizens to live or visit, let alone do 
>> business.
>> 
>> Just my $0.02.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is my thought. Everything anybody from the west has ever done in the 
>>> middle east has turned into poo. Why keep trying?
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> On Friday, January 3, 2020, 10:53:57 AM EST, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:  
>>> 
>>> Could be why the Turks neatly dumped Iraq on the British after WWI.  
>>> 
>>> It's stupid to play over there -- very little other than oil, and if we 
>>> wean ourselves off wasting petroleum, the inhabitants of the middle east 
>>> can battle each other over sand dunes forever with no impact beyond that. 
>> 
>> 
>> clay monroe
>> 
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>> looking for didn't fall out.
>> 
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[MBZ] So what does this mean?

[Craig via Mercedes]

At the end of the craiglist advert Floyd posted for the '72 280SE, the
fellow wrote at the end of the posting:

  Don't send me a Google Voice Verification code
  to my own phone number. I'm not an idiot. 

What does this mean?

What vulnerability does this open up?


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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

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On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 15:17:02 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 4 hours at $100ea, plus $25 to dig in the scrap pile for the patch
> material? I can remember when MiG welding cost me $30 an hour, but that
> was in the 1980s. The good news is he cut the flange out so the next
> time it goes you'll have to replace two pieces instead of the piece the
> idiot indy (or foolish owner) should have replaced this time around.

I had a muffler shop in Pasadena, CA, do that with the exhaust system on
my '59 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spyder Veloce. I was not pleased, but as a
20-year-old college student, I didn't know what to do.


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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Drunken monkeyThis response takes the cake! 

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> On Jan 3, 2020, at 4:26 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> If the welder was a drunken monkey working for free peanuts and warm beer,
> using a flux core 110 welder, then it's an outstanding job.
> 
> Otherwise, as a 'paid expert"... it absolutely sucks !
> 
> Good welds are also pretty welds. These welds are bone ugly, show lack of
> heat control and hand / stinger coordination, and most likely is a flux
> core welder.. low cost cheap welder Really bad.
> 
> I would, for the money spent, demand the section be removed and replaced
> with new factory bolt or clamp in piece... at the shops cost to rework...
> 
> The welds are sub standard and will crack and leak... your mom drives it...
> strong argument for safety...
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:18 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Usually in this situation I just replace the rusty section with a factory
>> part. It bolts right in and the parts are not typically too expensive.
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 1:54 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Post his name on Twitter with pic-or threaten to if they don't clean up
>> the
>>> weld.
>>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 3:50 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I did but it fell on deaf ears. Oh well. From now on NOBODY will be
 welding on my or my family members’ cars. Period.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:11 PM, Dwight Giles 
>> wrote:
 
 I would definitely complain to the repair shop.
 Dwight E. Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI
 
 
 On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:06 PM Dimitri Seretakis >> 
 wrote:
 
> Not sure. Looks like mig not sure if with shielding gas or flux core.
> Paint covered up  the possibility of seeing uncleaned welding slag.
>> Not
> only does the weld look like dog shit but that area was originally
>>> joined
> together with flanges and bolted together. That’s not how the repair
>> was
> done. He slipped a piece over one end and into the other thus reducing
>>> the
> diameter of the exhaust and creating a local obstruction in the pipe
>>> which
> will rob some power from the engine. In addition, this dog shit welded
>>> mass
> cannot be unbolted and separated as was initially intended.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Dwight Giles 
>>> wrote:
> 
> NOT a Dimitri weld. Was it ever slagged?
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 1:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in
>>> the
>> Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I
>>> will not
>> name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my
>> experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical
>>> repairs.
>> His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him
>> regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely
>>> defended
>> the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him
>>> what I
>> found unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a
>>> similar
>> manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys
>>> think of
>> this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

There are various reasons why I don’t want to do that. First of all, it is a 
good Mercedes shop for mechanical repairs. I guess anything welding related is 
just a no no for them. After this experience, I will weld everything myself. I 
let it slide this time because I was busy and didn’t want to hold up my 
mother’s car while I found the time to weld it. She was complaining already 
about how she needed her car back. 
Second of all, the owner is a pretty decent guy so I don’t feel it’s fair to 
punish him for one bad experience not directly caused by his shop although he 
should have offered to remedy it either way. There is a third of all but I’ll 
keep it off the list!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yelp and Facebook are handy for this sort of social media shaming. However, 
> there is a flip side in that you can pretty much forget ever patronizing the 
> business again. Since it’s a place his mom has been taking the car that might 
> be a problem for her…
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Post his name on Twitter with pic-or threaten to if they don't clean up the
>> weld.
>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 3:50 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I did but it fell on deaf ears. Oh well. From now on NOBODY will be
>>> welding on my or my family members’ cars. Period.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:11 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would definitely complain to the repair shop.
>>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:06 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Not sure. Looks like mig not sure if with shielding gas or flux core.
 Paint covered up  the possibility of seeing uncleaned welding slag. Not
 only does the weld look like dog shit but that area was originally joined
 together with flanges and bolted together. That’s not how the repair was
 done. He slipped a piece over one end and into the other thus reducing the
 diameter of the exhaust and creating a local obstruction in the pipe which
 will rob some power from the engine. In addition, this dog shit welded mass
 cannot be unbolted and separated as was initially intended.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
 
 NOT a Dimitri weld. Was it ever slagged?
 
 Dwight Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI
 
 On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 1:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the
> Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will 
> not
> name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my
> experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs.
> His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him
> regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely 
> defended
> the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I
> found unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a 
> similar
> manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys think of
> this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Dimitri wrote:

> Not only does the weld look like dog shit but that area was
> originally joined together with flanges and bolted
> together.  ...cannot be unbolted and separated as was initially
> intended.

To me, the ugly weld is disappointing.  If it seals and hold
together, maybe good enough.

But re-engineering?  Failure to repair "in kind"?  Diminish
serviceability by replacing a flange with a welded joint?

THAT is unacceptable

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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

If the welder was a drunken monkey working for free peanuts and warm beer,
using a flux core 110 welder, then it's an outstanding job.

Otherwise, as a 'paid expert"... it absolutely sucks !

Good welds are also pretty welds. These welds are bone ugly, show lack of
heat control and hand / stinger coordination, and most likely is a flux
core welder.. low cost cheap welder Really bad.

I would, for the money spent, demand the section be removed and replaced
with new factory bolt or clamp in piece... at the shops cost to rework...

The welds are sub standard and will crack and leak... your mom drives it...
strong argument for safety...


On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:18 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Usually in this situation I just replace the rusty section with a factory
> part. It bolts right in and the parts are not typically too expensive.
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 1:54 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Post his name on Twitter with pic-or threaten to if they don't clean up
> the
> > weld.
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 3:50 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I did but it fell on deaf ears. Oh well. From now on NOBODY will be
> > > welding on my or my family members’ cars. Period.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:11 PM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would definitely complain to the repair shop.
> > > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:06 PM Dimitri Seretakis  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>  Not sure. Looks like mig not sure if with shielding gas or flux core.
> > >> Paint covered up  the possibility of seeing uncleaned welding slag.
> Not
> > >> only does the weld look like dog shit but that area was originally
> > joined
> > >> together with flanges and bolted together. That’s not how the repair
> was
> > >> done. He slipped a piece over one end and into the other thus reducing
> > the
> > >> diameter of the exhaust and creating a local obstruction in the pipe
> > which
> > >> will rob some power from the engine. In addition, this dog shit welded
> > mass
> > >> cannot be unbolted and separated as was initially intended.
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Dwight Giles 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> NOT a Dimitri weld. Was it ever slagged?
> > >>
> > >> Dwight Giles Jr.
> > >> Wickford RI
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 1:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in
> > the
> > >>> Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I
> > will not
> > >>> name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my
> > >>> experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical
> > repairs.
> > >>> His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him
> > >>> regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely
> > defended
> > >>> the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him
> > what I
> > >>> found unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a
> > similar
> > >>> manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys
> > think of
> > >>> this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
> > >>>
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Usually in this situation I just replace the rusty section with a factory
part. It bolts right in and the parts are not typically too expensive.

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 1:54 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Post his name on Twitter with pic-or threaten to if they don't clean up the
> weld.
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 3:50 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
>
> > I did but it fell on deaf ears. Oh well. From now on NOBODY will be
> > welding on my or my family members’ cars. Period.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:11 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> >
> > I would definitely complain to the repair shop.
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:06 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>  Not sure. Looks like mig not sure if with shielding gas or flux core.
> >> Paint covered up  the possibility of seeing uncleaned welding slag. Not
> >> only does the weld look like dog shit but that area was originally
> joined
> >> together with flanges and bolted together. That’s not how the repair was
> >> done. He slipped a piece over one end and into the other thus reducing
> the
> >> diameter of the exhaust and creating a local obstruction in the pipe
> which
> >> will rob some power from the engine. In addition, this dog shit welded
> mass
> >> cannot be unbolted and separated as was initially intended.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> NOT a Dimitri weld. Was it ever slagged?
> >>
> >> Dwight Giles Jr.
> >> Wickford RI
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 1:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in
> the
> >>> Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I
> will not
> >>> name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my
> >>> experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical
> repairs.
> >>> His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him
> >>> regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely
> defended
> >>> the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him
> what I
> >>> found unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a
> similar
> >>> manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys
> think of
> >>> this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yelp and Facebook are handy for this sort of social media shaming. However, 
there is a flip side in that you can pretty much forget ever patronizing the 
business again. Since it’s a place his mom has been taking the car that might 
be a problem for her…

-D


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Post his name on Twitter with pic-or threaten to if they don't clean up the
> weld.
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 3:50 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
> 
>> I did but it fell on deaf ears. Oh well. From now on NOBODY will be
>> welding on my or my family members’ cars. Period.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:11 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>> 
>> I would definitely complain to the repair shop.
>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:06 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Not sure. Looks like mig not sure if with shielding gas or flux core.
>>> Paint covered up  the possibility of seeing uncleaned welding slag. Not
>>> only does the weld look like dog shit but that area was originally joined
>>> together with flanges and bolted together. That’s not how the repair was
>>> done. He slipped a piece over one end and into the other thus reducing the
>>> diameter of the exhaust and creating a local obstruction in the pipe which
>>> will rob some power from the engine. In addition, this dog shit welded mass
>>> cannot be unbolted and separated as was initially intended.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> NOT a Dimitri weld. Was it ever slagged?
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 1:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the
 Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will not
 name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my
 experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs.
 His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him
 regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely defended
 the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I
 found unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a similar
 manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys think of
 this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Post his name on Twitter with pic-or threaten to if they don't clean up the
weld.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 3:50 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
wrote:

> I did but it fell on deaf ears. Oh well. From now on NOBODY will be
> welding on my or my family members’ cars. Period.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:11 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>
> I would definitely complain to the repair shop.
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:06 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
>
>>  Not sure. Looks like mig not sure if with shielding gas or flux core.
>> Paint covered up  the possibility of seeing uncleaned welding slag. Not
>> only does the weld look like dog shit but that area was originally joined
>> together with flanges and bolted together. That’s not how the repair was
>> done. He slipped a piece over one end and into the other thus reducing the
>> diameter of the exhaust and creating a local obstruction in the pipe which
>> will rob some power from the engine. In addition, this dog shit welded mass
>> cannot be unbolted and separated as was initially intended.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>>
>> NOT a Dimitri weld. Was it ever slagged?
>>
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 1:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the
>>> Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will not
>>> name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my
>>> experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs.
>>> His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him
>>> regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely defended
>>> the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I
>>> found unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a similar
>>> manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys think of
>>> this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I did but it fell on deaf ears. Oh well. From now on NOBODY will be welding on 
my or my family members’ cars. Period.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:11 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> I would definitely complain to the repair shop.
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:06 PM Dimitri Seretakis  
>> wrote:
>>  Not sure. Looks like mig not sure if with shielding gas or flux core. Paint 
>> covered up  the possibility of seeing uncleaned welding slag. Not only does 
>> the weld look like dog shit but that area was originally joined together 
>> with flanges and bolted together. That’s not how the repair was done. He 
>> slipped a piece over one end and into the other thus reducing the diameter 
>> of the exhaust and creating a local obstruction in the pipe which will rob 
>> some power from the engine. In addition, this dog shit welded mass cannot be 
>> unbolted and separated as was initially intended.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> NOT a Dimitri weld. Was it ever slagged?
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
 On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 1:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the 
 Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will 
 not name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my 
 experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs. 
 His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him 
 regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely 
 defended the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show 
 him what I found unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired 
 in a similar manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you 
 guys think of this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

True. The Swiss really do it right. Nordic countries aren’t far away from this 
approach, either.

-D


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> The best foreign policy ever employed by the US has been to stay the heck out 
> of other peoples business and tidy up our own internal issues.  Not that we 
> have employed that line of action in forever.  
> 
> Whenever we decide to meddle, the banana republic or other backward terrain 
> becomes a pustulant sore in our backside.  We have no “national interest” in 
> any of these places and should resolve to show restraint in dealing with 
> other nations.  Just pull it all back to home shores, navigate the world 
> oceans with our big stick navy, and trim our footprint on foreign soil to the 
> most basic of services needed to meet the needs of US citizens who visit 
> these third world cesspools.  No propping up dictators, overthrowing duly 
> elected miscreants, play Spy vs. Spy, supporting rapacious fruit plantations 
> or other business dealings.  Screw NAFTA and the rest of the open world trade 
> policy crap.  Make the things we need here, jack the tariffs on outside 
> goods, and trim the Department of State, CIA, NSA, and other multi-alphabet 
> agencies to the bone.
> 
> In my many decades of living outside the good old USA, the only nation that 
> did not go sideways were the Swiss.  All the rest have transitioned into less 
> welcoming places for our citizens to live or visit, let alone do business.
> 
> Just my $0.02.
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This is my thought. Everything anybody from the west has ever done in the 
>> middle east has turned into poo. Why keep trying?
>> -Curt
>> 
>>  On Friday, January 3, 2020, 10:53:57 AM EST, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> Could be why the Turks neatly dumped Iraq on the British after WWI.  
>> 
>> It's stupid to play over there -- very little other than oil, and if we wean 
>> ourselves off wasting petroleum, the inhabitants of the middle east can 
>> battle each other over sand dunes forever with no impact beyond that. 
> 
> 
> clay monroe
> 
> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it? -- rear bumber

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You would need to leave the Parktronic sensors in the bumper, or you would have 
to find covers for the holes.

Good quality rattle cans (2) would cost about $60-$80 depending on who you get 
it from. No idea what a shop would charge, but I’ve wondered if it would be 
pretty cheap if you walked in with it, said “Paint this at your leisure” and 
asked for a deal with no strings (warranty). Can’t imagine it would be that 
expensive.

If I ever replace the rear bumper on my ML beater truck I may try this. I’ve 
done rattle cans on a W140 front bumper cover and it turned out well. I’m 
holding out for the one year anniversary before I do this so I can beat 
Curley’s bet that I’ll clean it up before that…

-D



> On Jan 3, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I found a nice rear bumper cover on CL for $60. It was for a ML500, so has 
> the Parkmatic sensors which I don't need. Perhaps I can get some $ back for 
> them on eBay. It's white, so needs painted silver to match my ML320.
> 
> How much would Maaco charge me to paint a bumper? Or how much will I spend on 
> quality matching paint in rattle-cans?
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Floyd 
> Thursby via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 11:42 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Floyd Thursby
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it? -- rear bumber
> 
> This one is $270 or $286, the total depends on any options like park 
> sensors or such
> 
> https://www.carid.com/2005-mercedes-m-class-bumpers/replace-rear-bumper-cover-9960745.html
> 
> This one on Amazon is $315
> 
> https://www.carid.com/2005-mercedes-m-class-bumpers/replace-rear-bumper-cover-9960745.html
> 
> I know I saw one for like $250 but probably didn't bookmark it or maybe 
> it was really cheap, but the first one is close
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 1/3/20 1:37 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:
>> I found one for this 2005 that was like $250. I’ll look it up later
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> He’s confused.
>>> 
>>> Bumper covers for the 2004 and later models are different than earlier 
>>> models. You can get rear bumper covers for 2003 and earlier for a couple 
>>> hundred bucks. 2004 and later are over $300.
>>> 
>>> 1998-2003 rear bumper cover - $200 on eBay
>>> 
>>> 2003-2005 rear bumper cover - $329 on eBay
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Where can you get a bumper cover for that? I got an ML here that needs 
 both bumper covers but cant seem to find any that cheap.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> That bumper cover is less than $250, throw in a rattle can of paint and 
> yer good ta go
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 2004 ML 500 219kmi
>>> https://www.copart.com/lot/56506399
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Clay via Mercedes]

The best foreign policy ever employed by the US has been to stay the heck out 
of other peoples business and tidy up our own internal issues.  Not that we 
have employed that line of action in forever.  

Whenever we decide to meddle, the banana republic or other backward terrain 
becomes a pustulant sore in our backside.  We have no “national interest” in 
any of these places and should resolve to show restraint in dealing with other 
nations.  Just pull it all back to home shores, navigate the world oceans with 
our big stick navy, and trim our footprint on foreign soil to the most basic of 
services needed to meet the needs of US citizens who visit these third world 
cesspools.  No propping up dictators, overthrowing duly elected miscreants, 
play Spy vs. Spy, supporting rapacious fruit plantations or other business 
dealings.  Screw NAFTA and the rest of the open world trade policy crap.  Make 
the things we need here, jack the tariffs on outside goods, and trim the 
Department of State, CIA, NSA, and other multi-alphabet agencies to the bone.

In my many decades of living outside the good old USA, the only nation that did 
not go sideways were the Swiss.  All the rest have transitioned into less 
welcoming places for our citizens to live or visit, let alone do business.

Just my $0.02.

clay

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This is my thought. Everything anybody from the west has ever done in the 
> middle east has turned into poo. Why keep trying?
> -Curt
> 
>   On Friday, January 3, 2020, 10:53:57 AM EST, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Could be why the Turks neatly dumped Iraq on the British after WWI.  
> 
> It's stupid to play over there -- very little other than oil, and if we wean 
> ourselves off wasting petroleum, the inhabitants of the middle east can 
> battle each other over sand dunes forever with no impact beyond that. 


clay monroe

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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it? -- rear bumber

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You could probably get some paint mixed up and buy a cheap HF HVLP 
sprayer set-up for less than farming it out, assuming you had a place to 
set up little temporary spray booth .


--FT

On 1/3/20 3:24 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

I found a nice rear bumper cover on CL for $60. It was for a ML500, so has the 
Parkmatic sensors which I don't need. Perhaps I can get some $ back for them on 
eBay. It's white, so needs painted silver to match my ML320.

How much would Maaco charge me to paint a bumper? Or how much will I spend on 
quality matching paint in rattle-cans?

Greg

-Original Message-
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Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 11:42 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it? -- rear bumber

This one is $270 or $286, the total depends on any options like park
sensors or such

https://www.carid.com/2005-mercedes-m-class-bumpers/replace-rear-bumper-cover-9960745.html

This one on Amazon is $315

https://www.carid.com/2005-mercedes-m-class-bumpers/replace-rear-bumper-cover-9960745.html

I know I saw one for like $250 but probably didn't bookmark it or maybe
it was really cheap, but the first one is close

--FT


On 1/3/20 1:37 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:

I found one for this 2005 that was like $250. I’ll look it up later

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

He’s confused.

Bumper covers for the 2004 and later models are different than earlier models. 
You can get rear bumper covers for 2003 and earlier for a couple hundred bucks. 
2004 and later are over $300.

1998-2003 rear bumper cover - $200 on eBay

2003-2005 rear bumper cover - $329 on eBay

-D




On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Where can you get a bumper cover for that? I got an ML here that needs both 
bumper covers but cant seem to find any that cheap.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

That bumper cover is less than $250, throw in a rattle can of paint and yer 
good ta go

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Yep

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:

2004 ML 500 219kmi
https://www.copart.com/lot/56506399

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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it? -- rear bumber

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I found a nice rear bumper cover on CL for $60. It was for a ML500, so has the 
Parkmatic sensors which I don't need. Perhaps I can get some $ back for them on 
eBay. It's white, so needs painted silver to match my ML320.

How much would Maaco charge me to paint a bumper? Or how much will I spend on 
quality matching paint in rattle-cans?

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Floyd 
Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 11:42 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it? -- rear bumber

This one is $270 or $286, the total depends on any options like park 
sensors or such

https://www.carid.com/2005-mercedes-m-class-bumpers/replace-rear-bumper-cover-9960745.html

This one on Amazon is $315

https://www.carid.com/2005-mercedes-m-class-bumpers/replace-rear-bumper-cover-9960745.html

I know I saw one for like $250 but probably didn't bookmark it or maybe 
it was really cheap, but the first one is close

--FT


On 1/3/20 1:37 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:
> I found one for this 2005 that was like $250. I’ll look it up later
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>>
>> He’s confused.
>>
>> Bumper covers for the 2004 and later models are different than earlier 
>> models. You can get rear bumper covers for 2003 and earlier for a couple 
>> hundred bucks. 2004 and later are over $300.
>>
>> 1998-2003 rear bumper cover - $200 on eBay
>>
>> 2003-2005 rear bumper cover - $329 on eBay
>>
>> -D
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Where can you get a bumper cover for that? I got an ML here that needs both 
>>> bumper covers but cant seem to find any that cheap.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 That bumper cover is less than $250, throw in a rattle can of paint and 
 yer good ta go

 --FT
 Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> Yep
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 2004 ML 500 219kmi
>> https://www.copart.com/lot/56506399
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[MBZ] Wow, might not be a LOT of crack here

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

but definitely some.  BaT car for sure

https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/yadkinville-mercedes-benz-560-sl-1988/7049115194.html

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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car if There Ever Was One!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's a 210 coupe with a ragtop with a C designation that I don't 
understand.  i don't understand CLK, it should be ELK.


I find the 210s to be kinda tinny compared to a 123 or 126 but so far 
the E300 and the E320 seem fairly decent so this one would probably be 
OK too.  They have some electron nannies but mostly seem fairly 
straightforward so maintenance is probably OK.  I doubt if this one has 
major issues, some nanny probably kakked. Throw the computer on it and 
it would likely get sorted right quick.  This one looks fairly nice even 
with some warts, for $500 it would probably be a nice little project and 
fun to drive just for grins, get your money out of it and probably make 
some.


One pic shows no star, others show a cockeyed star.  Those wheels would 
probably be worth $500.


--FT

On 1/3/20 3:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Crap class, rag top. Double strikes.

Nope.

When the housing situation gets sorted I’ll be on the lookout for a yellow SLK 
320 to replace the wife’s SL500.

-D



On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  
wrote:

Man up and buy the car, you know you want to.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

No mileage. Looks like it’s got some wear and tear. For $500 I would consider 
it if the wheels fit one of my current cars.

Right now my disposable income is being disposed on houses.

-D




On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I’d be all over that.

--FT
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https://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/d/bushnell-2000-mercedes-clk-320/7049087251.html
 


-D


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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

4 hours at $100ea, plus $25 to dig in the scrap pile for the patch material?
I can remember when MiG welding cost me $30 an hour, but that was in the 1980s.
The good news is he cut the flange out so the next time it goes you'll have to 
replace two pieces instead of the piece the idiot indy (or foolish owner) 
should have replaced this time around. 
Mitch. 
> On January 3, 2020 at 2:59 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> $425? Ouch. I hope your guy marked the subbed work up substantially. I would 
> have a really hard time justifying that.

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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I would definitely complain to the repair shop.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
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On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:06 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
wrote:

>  Not sure. Looks like mig not sure if with shielding gas or flux core.
> Paint covered up  the possibility of seeing uncleaned welding slag. Not
> only does the weld look like dog shit but that area was originally joined
> together with flanges and bolted together. That’s not how the repair was
> done. He slipped a piece over one end and into the other thus reducing the
> diameter of the exhaust and creating a local obstruction in the pipe which
> will rob some power from the engine. In addition, this dog shit welded mass
> cannot be unbolted and separated as was initially intended.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>
> NOT a Dimitri weld. Was it ever slagged?
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 1:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the
>> Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will not
>> name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my
>> experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs.
>> His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him
>> regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely defended
>> the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I
>> found unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a similar
>> manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys think of
>> this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car if There Ever Was One!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Crap class, rag top. Double strikes.

Nope.

When the housing situation gets sorted I’ll be on the lookout for a yellow SLK 
320 to replace the wife’s SL500.

-D


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Man up and buy the car, you know you want to.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> No mileage. Looks like it’s got some wear and tear. For $500 I would 
>> consider it if the wheels fit one of my current cars.
>> 
>> Right now my disposable income is being disposed on houses.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’d be all over that. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 https://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/d/bushnell-2000-mercedes-clk-320/7049087251.html
  
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

$425? Ouch. I hope your guy marked the subbed work up substantially. I would 
have a really hard time justifying that.

-D

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> No real material cost other than some cheap section of pipe that was spliced 
> in. A few bucks at most.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m no welder other than stick welding two edges of steel plate butted 
>> together laying on a flat floor.
>> 
>> That being said, my exhaust guy does a much better job than that and would 
>> have charged significantly less based on my experience. For example, he 
>> welded the small catalytic converter on one side of my SL500 exhaust for 
>> $150, and that involved dropping the pipe from the manifold.
>> 
>> Hmm. No, I don’t think you’re being too fussy. I wonder how much he marked 
>> up the subcontractor’s charge? There wasn’t anything unique as far as the 
>> materials, correct?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the 
>>> Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will not 
>>> name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my 
>>> experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs. 
>>> His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him 
>>> regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely defended 
>>> the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I 
>>> found unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a similar 
>>> manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys think of 
>>> this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

No real material cost other than some cheap section of pipe that was spliced 
in. A few bucks at most.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m no welder other than stick welding two edges of steel plate butted 
> together laying on a flat floor.
> 
> That being said, my exhaust guy does a much better job than that and would 
> have charged significantly less based on my experience. For example, he 
> welded the small catalytic converter on one side of my SL500 exhaust for 
> $150, and that involved dropping the pipe from the manifold.
> 
> Hmm. No, I don’t think you’re being too fussy. I wonder how much he marked up 
> the subcontractor’s charge? There wasn’t anything unique as far as the 
> materials, correct?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the 
>> Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will not 
>> name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my experience 
>> with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs. His “welder” 
>> is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him regarding the 
>> quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely defended the welder and 
>> gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I found 
>> unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a similar 
>> manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys think of 
>> this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Mercedes 280SE 4.5 - $6000 (Hanahan)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I hadn’t looked at this until I saw Jaime’s comments. Wow.

And for what it’s worth, I never understood the attraction of putting something 
like a Nardi wheel on one of these cars. Maybe on a 1950s/60s two seater sports 
car, possibly, but a Mercedes sedan? Nope, don’t get it.

-D


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 2:34 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Steering wheels are easy to change.  But whoever put that long piece of
> hose on the aux air valve has no business working on these cars.
> 
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:49 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The steering wheel is a total turnoff
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:38 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/hanahan-1972-mercedes-280se-45/7048670713.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it? -- rear bumber

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This one is $270 or $286, the total depends on any options like park 
sensors or such


https://www.carid.com/2005-mercedes-m-class-bumpers/replace-rear-bumper-cover-9960745.html

This one on Amazon is $315

https://www.carid.com/2005-mercedes-m-class-bumpers/replace-rear-bumper-cover-9960745.html

I know I saw one for like $250 but probably didn't bookmark it or maybe 
it was really cheap, but the first one is close


--FT


On 1/3/20 1:37 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:

I found one for this 2005 that was like $250. I’ll look it up later

--FT
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On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

He’s confused.

Bumper covers for the 2004 and later models are different than earlier models. 
You can get rear bumper covers for 2003 and earlier for a couple hundred bucks. 
2004 and later are over $300.

1998-2003 rear bumper cover - $200 on eBay

2003-2005 rear bumper cover - $329 on eBay

-D




On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Where can you get a bumper cover for that? I got an ML here that needs both 
bumper covers but cant seem to find any that cheap.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

That bumper cover is less than $250, throw in a rattle can of paint and yer 
good ta go

--FT
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On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Yep

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On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:

2004 ML 500 219kmi
https://www.copart.com/lot/56506399

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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’m no welder other than stick welding two edges of steel plate butted together 
laying on a flat floor.

That being said, my exhaust guy does a much better job than that and would have 
charged significantly less based on my experience. For example, he welded the 
small catalytic converter on one side of my SL500 exhaust for $150, and that 
involved dropping the pipe from the manifold.

Hmm. No, I don’t think you’re being too fussy. I wonder how much he marked up 
the subcontractor’s charge? There wasn’t anything unique as far as the 
materials, correct?

-D



> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the 
> Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will not 
> name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my experience 
> with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs. His “welder” 
> is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him regarding the quality 
> of the welded exhaust repair but he politely defended the welder and gave no 
> apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I found unsatisfactory. 
> There was another area that was repaired in a similar manner. The total cost 
> was $425 for the welding. What do you guys think of this repair? Am I being 
> too fussy here?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Mercedes 280SE 4.5 - $6000 (Hanahan)

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Steering wheels are easy to change.  But whoever put that long piece of
hose on the aux air valve has no business working on these cars.

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:49 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The steering wheel is a total turnoff
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:38 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

That looks way better than 99% of my welds.  Especially working upside
down under the car on rusty metal...

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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

What’s scary is that this is a welding professional. How could you be so 
incompetent at your job when that’s all you do? How could you go home at night 
feeling any satisfaction with your day’s accomplishments? 

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> On Jan 3, 2020, at 2:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I mean if it works and does not leak, ok. But for that price I would expect 
> it to look a lot better than that. I could probably do similar with my HF 
> welder. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the 
>> Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will not 
>> name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my experience 
>> with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs. His “welder” 
>> is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him regarding the 
>> quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely defended the welder and 
>> gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I found 
>> unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a similar 
>> manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys think of 
>> this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

 Not sure. Looks like mig not sure if with shielding gas or flux core. Paint 
covered up  the possibility of seeing uncleaned welding slag. Not only does the 
weld look like dog shit but that area was originally joined together with 
flanges and bolted together. That’s not how the repair was done. He slipped a 
piece over one end and into the other thus reducing the diameter of the exhaust 
and creating a local obstruction in the pipe which will rob some power from the 
engine. In addition, this dog shit welded mass cannot be unbolted and separated 
as was initially intended.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> NOT a Dimitri weld. Was it ever slagged?
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 1:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the 
>> Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will not 
>> name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my experience 
>> with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs. His “welder” 
>> is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him regarding the 
>> quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely defended the welder and 
>> gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I found 
>> unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a similar 
>> manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys think of 
>> this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

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I mean if it works and does not leak, ok. But for that price I would expect it 
to look a lot better than that. I could probably do similar with my HF welder. 

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> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the 
> Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will not 
> name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my experience 
> with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs. His “welder” 
> is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him regarding the quality 
> of the welded exhaust repair but he politely defended the welder and gave no 
> apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I found unsatisfactory. 
> There was another area that was repaired in a similar manner. The total cost 
> was $425 for the welding. What do you guys think of this repair? Am I being 
> too fussy here?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car if There Ever Was One!

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Man up and buy the car, you know you want to.

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> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No mileage. Looks like it’s got some wear and tear. For $500 I would 
> consider it if the wheels fit one of my current cars.
> 
> Right now my disposable income is being disposed on houses.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’d be all over that. 
>> 
>> --FT
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 On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/d/bushnell-2000-mercedes-clk-320/7049087251.html
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

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NOT a Dimitri weld. Was it ever slagged?

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 1:53 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the
> Boston area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will not
> name names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my
> experience with him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs.
> His “welder” is subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him
> regarding the quality of the welded exhaust repair but he politely defended
> the welder and gave no apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I
> found unsatisfactory. There was another area that was repaired in a similar
> manner. The total cost was $425 for the welding. What do you guys think of
> this repair? Am I being too fussy here?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car if There Ever Was One!

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No joke. For that amount of money you should go get and and easily get it 
running then flip it. 

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> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/d/bushnell-2000-mercedes-clk-320/7049087251.html
>  
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[MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

My mom took her 2005 G500 to the most esteemed Indy Mercedes shop in the Boston 
area to have a few things repaired including the exhaust (I will not name 
names). To be fair, I like the owner and I feel, based on my experience with 
him that he does a great job with the mechanical repairs. His “welder” is 
subcontracted. I expressed my dissatisfaction to him regarding the quality of 
the welded exhaust repair but he politely defended the welder and gave no 
apologies and didn’t ask for me to show him what I found unsatisfactory. There 
was another area that was repaired in a similar manner. The total cost was $425 
for the welding. What do you guys think of this repair? Am I being too fussy 
here?



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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car if There Ever Was One!

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No mileage. Looks like it’s got some wear and tear. For $500 I would consider 
it if the wheels fit one of my current cars.

Right now my disposable income is being disposed on houses.

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> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> 
> I’d be all over that. 
> 
> --FT
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>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/d/bushnell-2000-mercedes-clk-320/7049087251.html
>>  
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it?

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Looks like there’s a version without the hitch plate and one with.

No hitch
Hitch
No hitch, Parktronic
Hitch, Parktronic

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> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The 05 has a plate that pops off for the hitch. This one I have doesn’t have 
> the hitch but has the plate. The replacement I saw has the plate too. Adding 
> a hitch might need a slight mod with a dremel to allow for clearance of the 
> aftermarket hitches. 
> 
> --FT
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>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Looks like there are a similar number of variants for the rear bumper, 
>> mostly between with/without a ‘removable trailer coupling” and Parktronic.
>> 
>> Stuff like this I always have my dealer guy/gal confirm because of all the 
>> variations, but if it doesn’t have a trailer hitch, I would guess it’s a 163 
>> 880 69 71. That’s the basic rear bumper. With the trailer hitch cover it’s a 
>> 163 880 70 71.
>> 
>> Pretty much the same part across all W163 models through at least 2003 from 
>> what I can see.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So which back bumper cover does this thing need, and what are the potential 
>>> donor cars?
>>> http://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_DatacardAction.php?lang=E&vin=4jgab75e54a462478
>>> 
> On January 3, 2020 at 1:20 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 
 So it looks like there are eight variations of the front bumper face bar, 
 as the EPC calls it.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car if There Ever Was One!

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I’d be all over that. 

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> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/d/bushnell-2000-mercedes-clk-320/7049087251.html
>  
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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it?

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The 05 has a plate that pops off for the hitch. This one I have doesn’t have 
the hitch but has the plate. The replacement I saw has the plate too. Adding a 
hitch might need a slight mod with a dremel to allow for clearance of the 
aftermarket hitches. 

--FT
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> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Looks like there are a similar number of variants for the rear bumper, 
> mostly between with/without a ‘removable trailer coupling” and Parktronic.
> 
> Stuff like this I always have my dealer guy/gal confirm because of all the 
> variations, but if it doesn’t have a trailer hitch, I would guess it’s a 163 
> 880 69 71. That’s the basic rear bumper. With the trailer hitch cover it’s a 
> 163 880 70 71.
> 
> Pretty much the same part across all W163 models through at least 2003 from 
> what I can see.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So which back bumper cover does this thing need, and what are the potential 
>> donor cars?
>> http://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_DatacardAction.php?lang=E&vin=4jgab75e54a462478
>> 
 On January 3, 2020 at 1:20 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So it looks like there are eight variations of the front bumper face bar, 
>>> as the EPC calls it.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it?

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I found one for this 2005 that was like $250. I’ll look it up later 

--FT
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> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> He’s confused.
> 
> Bumper covers for the 2004 and later models are different than earlier 
> models. You can get rear bumper covers for 2003 and earlier for a couple 
> hundred bucks. 2004 and later are over $300.
> 
> 1998-2003 rear bumper cover - $200 on eBay
> 
> 2003-2005 rear bumper cover - $329 on eBay
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Where can you get a bumper cover for that? I got an ML here that needs both 
>> bumper covers but cant seem to find any that cheap. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That bumper cover is less than $250, throw in a rattle can of paint and 
>>> yer good ta go
>>> 
>>> --FT
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>>> 
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  wrote:
 
 Yep
 
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>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> 2004 ML 500 219kmi
> https://www.copart.com/lot/56506399
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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it?

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Looks like there are a similar number of variants for the rear bumper, mostly 
between with/without a ‘removable trailer coupling” and Parktronic.

Stuff like this I always have my dealer guy/gal confirm because of all the 
variations, but if it doesn’t have a trailer hitch, I would guess it’s a 163 
880 69 71. That’s the basic rear bumper. With the trailer hitch cover it’s a 
163 880 70 71.

Pretty much the same part across all W163 models through at least 2003 from 
what I can see.

-D



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> 
> So which back bumper cover does this thing need, and what are the potential 
> donor cars?
> http://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_DatacardAction.php?lang=E&vin=4jgab75e54a462478
> 
>> On January 3, 2020 at 1:20 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> So it looks like there are eight variations of the front bumper face bar, as 
>> the EPC calls it.
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[MBZ] Kleb Car if There Ever Was One!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/d/bushnell-2000-mercedes-clk-320/7049087251.html
 


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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it?

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I will dig up the vin. I do not currently have a working EPC. I need to address 
that ASAP 

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> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I don’t know about the front as I didn’t look, but when the listing I linked 
> to first showed up it defaulted to my 2002 ML500 and said it would fit. I 
> changed the application to a 2004 and it said that fit, too.
> 
> If you want to PM me the VIN I’ll check the number in the EPC and see what 
> comes up. I was of the understanding that there was a change between 
> 2003/2004 model years on bumpers, but maybe it’s just the front.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The one I have is 03 but it appears to have the newer style bumpers as far 
>> as I know. I had wondered if I could put the old style on there and be done 
>> with it even if technically they are not the right ones. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> He’s confused.
>>> 
>>> Bumper covers for the 2004 and later models are different than earlier 
>>> models. You can get rear bumper covers for 2003 and earlier for a couple 
>>> hundred bucks. 2004 and later are over $300.
>>> 
>>> 1998-2003 rear bumper cover - $200 on eBay
>>> 
>>> 2003-2005 rear bumper cover - $329 on eBay
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Where can you get a bumper cover for that? I got an ML here that needs 
 both bumper covers but cant seem to find any that cheap. 
 
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>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> That bumper cover is less than $250, throw in a rattle can of paint and 
> yer good ta go
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 2004 ML 500 219kmi
>>> https://www.copart.com/lot/56506399
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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it?

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So which back bumper cover does this thing need, and what are the potential 
donor cars?
http://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_DatacardAction.php?lang=E&vin=4jgab75e54a462478

> On January 3, 2020 at 1:20 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> So it looks like there are eight variations of the front bumper face bar, as 
> the EPC calls it.
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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So it looks like there are eight variations of the front bumper face bar, as 
the EPC calls it.

Used without headlamp cleaning system
Headlamp wiper/washer
Parktronic
Headlamp wiper/washer, Parktronic

And the same list with the U49 or 220 option codes

-D


> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:12 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> 
> I was wondering about that. 
> Car-part lists the newer ones differently, and they list the V8s separately 
> from the V6s. Along with the usual variations for parking assist and tow 
> hitch. I figure the hitch designation means they cut a hole in when they 
> added a hitch, and no hitch would be intact. 
> 
> There were very few newer ones within 200 miles of me. 
> The $150 one was for an old ML320 IIRC.
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Mercedes 280SE 4.5 - $6000 (Hanahan)

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On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 10:37:58 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/hanahan-1972-mercedes-280se-45/7048670713.html

The car looks nice -- I have always liked the look of that model, and
apparently Richard Sexton did, too, because he used it as the basis of
his website's logo.

At the end of the posting he wrote:

  Don't send me a Google Voice Verification code
  to my own phone number. I'm not an idiot. 

What does this mean?

What vulnerability does this open up?


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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I was wondering about that. 
Car-part lists the newer ones differently, and they list the V8s separately 
from the V6s. Along with the usual variations for parking assist and tow hitch. 
I figure the hitch designation means they cut a hole in when they added a 
hitch, and no hitch would be intact. 

There were very few newer ones within 200 miles of me. 
The $150 one was for an old ML320 IIRC.

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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I don’t know about the front as I didn’t look, but when the listing I linked to 
first showed up it defaulted to my 2002 ML500 and said it would fit. I changed 
the application to a 2004 and it said that fit, too.

If you want to PM me the VIN I’ll check the number in the EPC and see what 
comes up. I was of the understanding that there was a change between 2003/2004 
model years on bumpers, but maybe it’s just the front.

-D



> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The one I have is 03 but it appears to have the newer style bumpers as far as 
> I know. I had wondered if I could put the old style on there and be done with 
> it even if technically they are not the right ones. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> He’s confused.
>> 
>> Bumper covers for the 2004 and later models are different than earlier 
>> models. You can get rear bumper covers for 2003 and earlier for a couple 
>> hundred bucks. 2004 and later are over $300.
>> 
>> 1998-2003 rear bumper cover - $200 on eBay
>> 
>> 2003-2005 rear bumper cover - $329 on eBay
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where can you get a bumper cover for that? I got an ML here that needs both 
>>> bumper covers but cant seem to find any that cheap. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 That bumper cover is less than $250, throw in a rattle can of paint and 
 yer good ta go
 
 --FT
 Sent from iPhone
 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 2004 ML 500 219kmi
>> https://www.copart.com/lot/56506399
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2020?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Agreed.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 12:25 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Then Manchester would be a better choice. Puts you that much closer to
> Maine. It’s a great airport, too. Maybe 10 gates, if that. Pretty much walk
> right up to security and you’re there.
>
> SWA flies there, cheap.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would be renting a car so we can drive to Maine to visit wife family
> either after the Q or before the Q
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:20 AM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >> Providence is a lot closer- SWA flies there. We can arrange pickup at
> ether one.
> >>
> >> Dwight Giles Jr.
> >> Wickford RI
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 12:14 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> Let me know so I can look at flights. Right now they are fairly
> reasonable going into Boston. A little more flying into Providence.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> 
>  
>  Except for 1 year when we couldn't get the park it has,always been
> second Saturday of September. They start taking reservations in late March
> so as soon as i reserve our sites, I will send out an announcement as soon
> as i get site confirmation from Goddard Park.
> 
>  Dwight Giles Jr.
>  Wickford RI
> 
> > On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 11:58 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> > So this year I decided to try and make it if possible. What are the
> dates going to be?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2020?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Oh OK.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 12:22 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I would be renting a car so we can drive to Maine to visit wife family
> either after the Q or before the Q
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:20 AM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Providence is a lot closer- SWA flies there. We can arrange pickup at
> ether one.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 12:14 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> Let me know so I can look at flights. Right now they are fairly
> reasonable going into Boston. A little more flying into Providence.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> > Except for 1 year when we couldn't get the park it has,always been
> second Saturday of September. They start taking reservations in late March
> so as soon as i reserve our sites, I will send out an announcement as soon
> as i get site confirmation from Goddard Park.
> >> >
> >> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> >> > Wickford RI
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, Jan 3, 2020, 11:58 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >> So this year I decided to try and make it if possible. What are the
> dates going to be?
> >> >>
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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The one I have is 03 but it appears to have the newer style bumpers as far as I 
know. I had wondered if I could put the old style on there and be done with it 
even if technically they are not the right ones. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> He’s confused.
> 
> Bumper covers for the 2004 and later models are different than earlier 
> models. You can get rear bumper covers for 2003 and earlier for a couple 
> hundred bucks. 2004 and later are over $300.
> 
> 1998-2003 rear bumper cover - $200 on eBay
> 
> 2003-2005 rear bumper cover - $329 on eBay
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Where can you get a bumper cover for that? I got an ML here that needs both 
>> bumper covers but cant seem to find any that cheap. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That bumper cover is less than $250, throw in a rattle can of paint and 
>>> yer good ta go
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Yep
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> 2004 ML 500 219kmi
> https://www.copart.com/lot/56506399
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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it?

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Correction - I found a rear bumper cover for 2003-2005 for $246:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-GRAY-BUMPER-for-Mercedes-Benz-ML350-ML320-ML500-MB1100167-1638807071/152009798686?fits=Year%3A2004%7CMake%3AMercedes-Benz%7CModel%3AML500%7CSubmodel%3ABase%7CEngine+-+Liter_Display%3A5.0L%7CTrim%3ABase+Sport+Utility+4-Door%7CEngine%3A5.0L+4973CC+V8+GAS+SOHC+Naturally+Aspirated
 


-D




> On Jan 3, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> He’s confused.
> 
> Bumper covers for the 2004 and later models are different than earlier 
> models. You can get rear bumper covers for 2003 and earlier for a couple 
> hundred bucks. 2004 and later are over $300.
> 
> 1998-2003 rear bumper cover - $200 on eBay
> 
> 2003-2005 rear bumper cover - $329 on eBay
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Where can you get a bumper cover for that? I got an ML here that needs both 
>> bumper covers but cant seem to find any that cheap. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That bumper cover is less than $250, throw in a rattle can of paint and 
>>> yer good ta go
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Yep
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> 2004 ML 500 219kmi
> https://www.copart.com/lot/56506399
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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

There's a good white one in Indiana for $275 or a beat up white one near 
Detroit for $150

> On January 3, 2020 at 12:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> 
> That bumper cover is less than $250, throw in a rattle can of paint and yer 
> good ta go
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> > Yep
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] should a bid a Kaleb for it?

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He’s confused.

Bumper covers for the 2004 and later models are different than earlier models. 
You can get rear bumper covers for 2003 and earlier for a couple hundred bucks. 
2004 and later are over $300.

1998-2003 rear bumper cover - $200 on eBay

2003-2005 rear bumper cover - $329 on eBay

-D



> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Where can you get a bumper cover for that? I got an ML here that needs both 
> bumper covers but cant seem to find any that cheap. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That bumper cover is less than $250, throw in a rattle can of paint and yer 
>> good ta go
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
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 https://www.copart.com/lot/56506399
 
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