[MBZ] 60x fuel line bracket Need one?

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I consolidated all my Dissel injection stuff a year ago.  I went through it today and found I have a whole bunch of the 601 078 26 41 "fuel line bracket" which is the plastic clamp that can be wrapped around 1, 2, or 3 injection lines.  It is used at the front of the engine to wrap lines 1 to

Re: [MBZ] R dizzel looks nice

2020-02-19 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes
Not necessarily. My 08 E320 is a Blutech but DOESN'T use  DEF. Early models don't '07 & '08. Russ W On 2/19/2020 17:07, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: https://www.lastvin.com/vin/7l9rK2eaxpJ2bZeLm It's the V6 diesel. It has a DPF, so it's a Bluetec.

[MBZ] Wonderful

2020-02-19 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Now they are going to drive the price of W210's through the roof. Pretty color. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-mercedes-benz-e320-11/?utm_source=transactionalemail_medium=email_campaign=bat_model_notification Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Clean white/black 450SE on BAT

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Touche. NS at $8200. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:08 AM Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Nice condition but color combination leaves me cold. Probably won't reach > $10k and will be a NS in that case > > >

Re: [MBZ] R dizzel looks nice

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sounds intriguing. I emailed the seller with some questions. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:08 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://www.lastvin.com/vin/7l9rK2eaxpJ2bZeLm > > It's the V6 diesel. It has a DPF, so it's a Bluetec. > >

Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT brake caliper dragging

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Sage advice.   Opening the bleeder is too.   I forgot to mention that test.   Anymore on MBs, if I have a suspicion, I put new hoses on. Peter Frederick via Mercedes February 19, 2020 at 6:05 PM I tend to replace all the brake hoses after 10 or 15 years or 200k

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I was Peace Corps but not usaid. We were told at the time that CIA casually infiltrated Peace Corps overseas. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 6:19 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > There are extreme environmental movements that would eliminate humans > from the planet, thereby

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
While I was on loan to the USCG, my mentor there was reassigned as such (MILAT?) to another country in that general area. I am not aware that these are generally CIA. I think more USAID and USIA are more likely such. Of course our intelligence people can put on any uniform or other operational

Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT brake caliper dragging

2020-02-19 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Easy. Open the bleeder, if the caliper releases it's the hose. If not, it's the caliper. Trapped air sometimes causes a caliper to drag, but only if it's in the caliper. All brake hoses are subject to the "make a one way valve" failure, leading to dragging calipers. I tend to replace all

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That was the guy who used to own my house that “committed suicide” on Cyprus. Military attache to the U.S. Embassy. -D > On Feb 19, 2020, at 6:18 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes > wrote: > > Some spy jobs are "open secret" positions, like Military Attaché. I have seen > a bit of Spy vs.

[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Some spy jobs are "open secret" positions, like Military Attaché. I have seen a bit of Spy vs. Spy stuff, (back in the Soviet Union days) to include our spy playing chess against their spy, and everyone knew who the players were. Fun times. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
There are extreme environmental movements that would eliminate humans from the planet, thereby eliminating any man-made impact. Obviously they have no concept of stewardship, or dominion. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement Rick

Re: [MBZ] Trump's tariffs boosts solar industry in the south

2020-02-19 Thread Clay via Mercedes
The increase in employment in the solar industry has grown like a cancer up in Alaska over the past two years. Incredible jump in subsidies and installations both on homes and in arrays. Sadly, the panels are pretty useless from late September to Memorial Day. Equal insolation to Seattle.

Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

2020-02-19 Thread Clay via Mercedes
That is worthy of ATTA BOY clay > On Feb 19, 2020, at 9:25 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > Sunday my son changed out, pretty much all on his own, the > passenger-side door check in the 190D he's driving. We had > already done the driver's-side check last year. > > -- Jim > > >

Re: [MBZ] R dizzel looks nice

2020-02-19 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
https://www.lastvin.com/vin/7l9rK2eaxpJ2bZeLm It's the V6 diesel. It has a DPF, so it's a Bluetec. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM642_engine It appears to be somewhat detuned in US form. Hmm. Perhaps a bit of computer tweaking, it could have MUCH better acceleration For

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
True. USAID is often a cover for spooks, or so I found when working in third world countries. -D > On Feb 19, 2020, at 6:03 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: > > I missed the part about USAID. Peace Corps is populated by the do gooders. > Moving over to USAID is commonly cover for the Company.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Clay via Mercedes
I missed the part about USAID. Peace Corps is populated by the do gooders. Moving over to USAID is commonly cover for the Company. Much less obvious than Military Attache clay > On Feb 19, 2020, at 8:01 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Fifth: My guess is that this guy is

Re: [MBZ] R dizzel looks nice

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
And you don't have to buy used wizz. Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes February 19, 2020 at 3:39 PM Cdi is going to be a lot less trouble down the line than a urea burner. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Clay via Mercedes
I do not farm, but am an avid gardening fool. About the only thing I have found to grow well in shaded conditions is moss. Grass hates to be in shade. I have yet to find a fruit that enjoys it in the least. Every plant in my gardens over the past 40 years has despised shade and deformed

Re: [MBZ] virus

2020-02-19 Thread Clay via Mercedes
The more I read, the more I sense this is ObamaCare in action. WhooHoo virus is culling the herd of the aged and infirm, leaving those more robust perking along, spewing out contagion, but able to keep payments flowing to insurance companies without requiring the level of services of the

Re: [MBZ] I might have to pursue this one

2020-02-19 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
That sounds ok, just drop the head at a machine shop and let them deal with the broken plug. Take the head now, come back for the rest later. Max Dillon Charleston SC Feb 18, 2020 7:00:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : > Auction ended yesterday with me on top at $675. I then received a

Re: [MBZ] R dizzel looks nice

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Is it turbo charged or a Slowpoke? On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 4:39 PM Karl Wittnebel wrote: > Cdi is going to be a lot less trouble down the line than a urea burner. > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 11:19 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Too bad. That's a great body

Re: [MBZ] R dizzel looks nice

2020-02-19 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Cdi is going to be a lot less trouble down the line than a urea burner. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 11:19 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Too bad. That's a great body style. > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com>

Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

2020-02-19 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> It amazes me that your son would be old enough to drive... I have a picture of him in a baby bucket in the back of the Chicken Wagon. Had the CW a manual tranny that would have been his car to drive. But, he'd been along with me, at about age 3, when I bought the 190D that he's driving, so

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
All the big UPS's and whole-house inverters are 48V, as is telco (and enterprise-level packet) switching gear. I am amazed that my 75AH 48V UPS battery bank is now quite old, having been deployed in 2006. Almost exactly 14 years old, it still seems to be working fine. I did lose one (of the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Reductio ad absurdo. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 3:29 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Can't be. Everything causes "pollution" by current definitions. > > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > > February 19, 2020 at 1:30 PM > > How about

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Can't be.   Everything causes "pollution" by current definitions. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes February 19, 2020 at 1:30 PM How about "to Curt" - meaning, to object reflexively to every suggestion that doesn't cause pollution.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
HAHAHA!    Good one! Curt Raymond via Mercedes February 19, 2020 at 1:26 PM I think Andrew needs to become a verb. Andrew, verb: To reply to the wrong post in such a way that the reply made makes no sense at all."Whoops, I Andrewed, meant to reply to Bill's post

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I was thinking that the bulbs used with the Delco light plant were 24V, but this site says delco would have been 32v http://www.delcolight.com/8.html Unless the load side was 24V and the charging side was 32  I remember as a kid removing the LVDC stuff after my Grandmother died so dad

Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
A sign of maturity! (otherwise, a mark of old age)   Yeah, I remember when he was born. etc.   Stuff that happened 20 or 25 years ago seems recent to me. When I was a kid, the neighbor's Model T seemed ancient, but now 123s are more ancient than it was then. Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
How about "to Curt" - meaning, to object reflexively to every suggestion that doesn't cause pollution. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 2:29 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Quotes page. > > -D > > > > On Feb 19, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < >

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Quotes page. -D > On Feb 19, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I think Andrew needs to become a verb. > Andrew, verb: To reply to the wrong post in such a way that the reply made > makes no sense at all."Whoops, I Andrewed, meant to reply to Bill's post > instead of

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I think Andrew needs to become a verb. Andrew, verb: To reply to the wrong post in such a way that the reply made makes no sense at all."Whoops, I Andrewed, meant to reply to Bill's post instead of this one." -Curt On Wednesday, February 19, 2020, 2:21:07 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
All I know is that they work flawlessly. So far... On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 2:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Other than stepdown transformers which have the same dang issue as the > 110v inverter. > I've been debating going 24v with our system, bigger panels

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You missed part, the 50,000 hours is at max capacity. There are no moving parts, they don't just quit at that point, their capacity starts to degrade and continues for at least 30 years. Our oldest panel is going on, I think, 5 years and, since my dad bought it, you can bet its the cheapest

Re: [MBZ] R dizzel looks nice

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Too bad. That's a great body style. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > CDI I don't think is a bluetec > > --FT > > On 2/19/20 1:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > If this is Bluetec maybe I should consider an R class vs. the SUV model.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Other than stepdown transformers which have the same dang issue as the 110v inverter. I've been debating going 24v with our system, bigger panels are almost all 24v and much cheaper per-watt than the 12v panels we use. In the end I've decided that our best course is to stay 12v. This spring

Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

2020-02-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
It amazes me that your son would be old enough to drive but then I think back and realize I've been on this list and its predecessor for nearly 17 years now... I've got an upcoming class where we give away some swag. My boss suggested this year we do backpacks because it had been several years

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
unless they had the chicoms build the panels for them. Floyd Thursby via Mercedes February 19, 2020 at 1:00 PM Mits is Japanesium not Chinesium --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT brake caliper dragging

2020-02-19 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: > Swollen hose will cause swerving when brake pedal is released, as > least it did on my W108 280SE. That makes sense, and I do not notice this happening. So I'll pick up some new calipers. Thanks. Allan ___

[MBZ] Two socialites drown after their Mercedes rolls off the front of a ferry on its way to Miami's exclusive Fisher Island

2020-02-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
They shoulda been driving a VW bug https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8020545/Two-women-dead-car-fell-ferry-taking-residents-Fisher-Island-community.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
not really, but I was being generous, and i'd assume that is what the installers claim, knowing they will be under a different business flag in 6 yrs and not need to honor warranty and irate customers. Rick Knoble via Mercedes February 19, 2020 at 12:43 PM Curly

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Mits is Japanesium not Chinesium --FT On 2/19/20 1:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: My Mitsubishi black PV panels have been worry free since 8/1/2016 and are warranted for 10 years. I can also sell the SRECs. Good deal. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1:44 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] R dizzel looks nice

2020-02-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
CDI I don't think is a bluetec --FT On 2/19/20 1:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: If this is Bluetec maybe I should consider an R class vs. the SUV model. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1:15 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My Mitsubishi black PV panels have been worry free since 8/1/2016 and are warranted for 10 years. I can also sell the SRECs. Good deal. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1:44 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Curly sez> > > >We can assume a 20 yr amortization for the solar

Re: [MBZ] R dizzel looks nice

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If this is Bluetec maybe I should consider an R class vs. the SUV model. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 1:15 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-07-merscdes-r320-cdi/7077797718.html > > -- > --FT > > >

[MBZ] Trump's tariffs boosts solar industry in the south

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
A nationwide jobs survey released today found that big states in the U.S. South hired hundreds or even thousands of solar workers last year, including Texas, Virginia, Georgia and Florida, helping to reverse years of national declines. Overall, the U.S. solar industry's employment numbers grew by

Re: [MBZ] This is cheap

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Ask seller to please define "TLC". On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:56 PM Rick Hawkins Java Letterpress Cycles Photon via Mercedes wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3337987372942961/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Curly sez> >We can assume a 20 yr amortization for the solar >stuff. That will tell us the >gross profit. 20 year amortization? You are being mighty generous. LEDs made from Chinesium are supposed to last 50,000 hours. Many fail within a year or two. Do you really think those solar panels

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Fortunately the RV community has good 12v options. Sadly, there don't seem to be many 48V options. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT brake caliper dragging

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Swollen hose will cause swerving when brake pedal is released, as least it did on my W108 280SE. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 12:31 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > nope. > > Don't know if hondog brake hoses swell with DOT3 brake fluid. but MBs > from the 60s to 90s do.

Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list

2020-02-19 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Sunday my son changed out, pretty much all on his own, the passenger-side door check in the 190D he's driving. We had already done the driver's-side check last year. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

[MBZ] R dizzel looks nice

2020-02-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-07-merscdes-r320-cdi/7077797718.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] This is cheap

2020-02-19 Thread Rick Hawkins Java Letterpress Cycles Photon via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Living off grid is a lifestyle choice, you can't continue to consume energy the way you do in an on-grid life and move offgrid, it just can't work.Well I suppose it could but you'd need massive energy inputs, like a big diesel generator. The rule of thumb for solar is that $1 spent on

Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT brake caliper dragging

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
nope. Don't know if hondog brake hoses swell with DOT3 brake fluid. but MBs from the 60s to 90s do.  (I don't know about newer)   If only one is dragging, probably only the caliper. (but still could be the hose too) Allan Streib via Mercedes February 19, 2020 at

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
WInd and solar (small scale) are necessary components of living "off grid"   As a teenager, my dad installed a "wincharger" brand wind generator before electric lines.  My grandfather installed a Delco light plant to provide electricity for lighting and possibly a few other uses, also before

[MBZ] Somewhat OT brake caliper dragging

2020-02-19 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
2006 Honda has dragging brake right front. I am guessing it's the caliper and not the rubber hose because I drove it this morning without using the brakes at all and it still got hot. Agree? I'm inclined to replace them both anyway but is there any more diagnosis to be done? Allan

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I suspect this would be useful in some cases but this is a small field in a place where it gets cold. I did note that the panels are much taller than normal, I wonder how much more structure this will require than regular installations do... The added height suggests less shading than short

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Lets remember also that my "farm" is twice the size of their "farm"... -Curt On Wednesday, February 19, 2020, 11:39:35 AM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: If any of his neighbors are real farmers, (opposed to hobby farms) I am sure they will!  Because they will call BS faster

Re: [MBZ] virus

2020-02-19 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
The basic problem is that no one knows what the true denominator is in terms of infected people. If there is a high number of asymptomatic infections, the case fatality rate goes way down. Deaths are a lot easier to track than asymptomatic infections. It will be awhile before there are any

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Fifth:   My guess is that this guy is very well connected politically, and has greased the skids for taxpayer money to fund this. This is from Jack's own website  "After graduate school, serving in the Peace Corps, and working as a U.S. diplomat for the U.S. Agency for International

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
I'm a big pro-nuke (Thorium Gen IV !!!) guy, but I also think solar and even wind are fine in niche applications. The solar panels on the motor home are great. I see windmills on farms in dry areas to pump water. The place I rent in Maui is almost entirely solar powered. It makes sense to me.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I question the methodology and statistics.    People distort studies every day to "prove" what the funding source wants to hear, whether the finding is from a corporation or from a goobermnt. This assures the "scientist" a continuing source of funds. See "How to lie with Statistics"

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'll let the private sector weigh in on that by either adopting or shunning this practice. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:33 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So, tell us: What is the input coast per acre? What is the gross > cash return per acre per year? What is

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
If any of his neighbors are real farmers, (opposed to hobby farms) I am sure they will!  Because they will call BS faster than Curt. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes February 19, 2020 at 10:20 AM You should tell that poor deluded farmer and all those research

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
So, tell us:   What is the input coast per acre?   What is the gross cash return per acre per year?   What is the annual operating expense per year?   We can assume a 20 yr amortization for the solar stuff.  That will tell us the gross profit. That aside, it is still a fluff piece. Andrew

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You should tell that poor deluded farmer and all those research scientists that you know better. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:14 AM Curt Raymond wrote: > I did read the article, its rubbish. The panels themselves will eat all > the sunlight shone on them. The sunlight getting to the plants has

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I did read the article, its rubbish. The panels themselves will eat all the sunlight shone on them. The sunlight getting to the plants has to do so by going around the panels otherwise the panels would give up any hope of efficiency. See through panels won't work for poop, there isn't much

[MBZ] Clean white/black 450SE on BAT

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Nice condition but color combination leaves me cold. Probably won't reach $10k and will be a NS in that case https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-mercedes-benz-450se-10/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-02-19 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I guess Curt didn't read the article. The panels do NOT block sunlight completely and in some cases benefit crops by mitigating the severity of the sun's rays. This can boost yields in some cases. *In a recent test in Arizona, scientists compared crops planted under solar panels with those

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I think you missed the obvious lie in this one Andrew, crops don't grow better in the shade. An experienced gardener like you should know the truth here. As an experiment put a tarp over your tomato plants this season and tell us how much better they grow... -Curt On Wednesday, February

Re: [MBZ] 250 Project on BAT

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sold for $5100. On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 11:33 AM Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Looks clean. Selling at NR. I predict $3500. > > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-mercedes-benz-250-8/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-02-18 > ___

Re: [MBZ] OT: Article on Solar Panels for cash-strapped farms.

2020-02-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I wouldn't recommend growing wheat under these circumstances. Duh. Otherwise, I fail to see why a struggling farmer wouldn't want to supplement his or her income if crop yields are either not affected or even slightly enhanced. I realize that this is probably too much of a no-brainer for

[MBZ] virus

2020-02-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
This graphic shows some encouraging news about the mexican beer virus. https://www.afp.com/sites/default/files/nfs/diff-intra/english/shared/top/621e88bed08a6cb49bd9bfd9f06e667aa50fcfe9.jpg it shows daily recoveries are nearing the number of daily new cases. (if you believe the chicoms)