Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT truck battery

[G Mann via Mercedes]

A FLAPS load tester does exactly that, by pressing a button it loads the
battery through a loaded heat sink device and measures battery "reserve
under load" on the meter...
I have one from Harbor Fright that works fine.. low cost, but handy to have
handy..

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:58 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The acid test is to hold the meter probes in the actual battery posts
> while someone cranks the starter.  If the voltage (at the posts) stays
> above 10v there is a problem elsewhere.
>
> > -Original Message-
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> > Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:43 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT truck battery
> >
> > Thanks y’all some good suggestions. I put in the battery recently so
> it’s new,
> > but could still be bad I suppose, and cleaned everything and cables are
> tight
> > but worth doing again for sure. And the other ends of the cables need to
> be
> > checked too
> >
> > --R
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> > > On Apr 16, 2020, at 5:20 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Remove the cables from the battery and clean them and the battery
> post..
> > > re-install them using some "battery cable grease".
> > > Clean, Bright, and Tight... you are missing one of those three... IF
> > > the battery is holding good charge... have you load tested the
> > > battery? Most FLAPS will do it for you, for free.
> > > Start cheap, clean the cables and check for good ground connection and
> > > hot lead connection on the car... then test load test the battery.
> > >
> > >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:37 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Voltage on the battery at rest?
> > >> Check the other end of the battery cables and the ground strap too.
> > >> -Curt
> > >>
> > >>On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 4:27:11 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via
> > >> Mercedes  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --R
> > >> Sent from iPhone
> > >>
> > >> Begin forwarded message:
> > >>
> > >>> From: Buggered Benzmail 
> > >>> Date: April 16, 2020 at 3:30:54 PM EDT
> > >>> To: Mercedes mailing list 
> > >>> Subject: OT truck battery
> > >>>
> > >>> I have 6month old El Mercado de Wal battery in my truck. Doesn’t
> > >>> want
> > >> to crank the engine over recently, occasionally.  The voltmeter on
> > >> the instrument cluster shows 14V which suggests the alternator is
> > >> charging (right?).  Alternator is like 15yo and maybe 60-70kmi.
> > >> Cables are tight on the battery.
> > >>>
> > >>> Do you think the battery could have crapped out already?  Starter
> > >>> might
> > >> be going bad?  I guess I could go by EMdW and get it tested and
> > >> swapped if necessary but I want to check anything else first, and
> > >> avoid EMdW if possible
> > >>>
> > >>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT truck battery

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The acid test is to hold the meter probes in the actual battery posts while 
someone cranks the starter.  If the voltage (at the posts) stays above 10v 
there is a problem elsewhere.

> -Original Message-
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> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 7:43 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT truck battery
> 
> Thanks y’all some good suggestions. I put in the battery recently so it’s new,
> but could still be bad I suppose, and cleaned everything and cables are tight
> but worth doing again for sure. And the other ends of the cables need to be
> checked too
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
> > On Apr 16, 2020, at 5:20 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > Remove the cables from the battery and clean them and the battery post..
> > re-install them using some "battery cable grease".
> > Clean, Bright, and Tight... you are missing one of those three... IF
> > the battery is holding good charge... have you load tested the
> > battery? Most FLAPS will do it for you, for free.
> > Start cheap, clean the cables and check for good ground connection and
> > hot lead connection on the car... then test load test the battery.
> >
> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:37 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Voltage on the battery at rest?
> >> Check the other end of the battery cables and the ground strap too.
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 4:27:11 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via
> >> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --R
> >> Sent from iPhone
> >>
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >>> From: Buggered Benzmail 
> >>> Date: April 16, 2020 at 3:30:54 PM EDT
> >>> To: Mercedes mailing list 
> >>> Subject: OT truck battery
> >>>
> >>> I have 6month old El Mercado de Wal battery in my truck. Doesn’t
> >>> want
> >> to crank the engine over recently, occasionally.  The voltmeter on
> >> the instrument cluster shows 14V which suggests the alternator is
> >> charging (right?).  Alternator is like 15yo and maybe 60-70kmi.
> >> Cables are tight on the battery.
> >>>
> >>> Do you think the battery could have crapped out already?  Starter
> >>> might
> >> be going bad?  I guess I could go by EMdW and get it tested and
> >> swapped if necessary but I want to check anything else first, and
> >> avoid EMdW if possible
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 13:47:15 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I have a label maker that neatly solves those kinds of problems... it
> prints on a plastic like material that applies with an adhesive  backing
> [peel off , stick on]... Made by DYMO.
> I use it to make labels to stick to oil filters , ie. date, mileage,
> engine hours, etc. and to label and document engine work, oil change
> info, etc.. IF I recall.. less than $30 6 yrs ago. It has more than
> paid for it's self.

Perhaps you could make a label for me ...   :-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT truck battery

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 23:05:12 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes
 wrote:

> A bad starter and a bad battery can act much the same if "turn the
> key" is the only test.  The volt meter will help sort that out.

Turning on the interior lights and then looking at them before and during
starter engagement can easily and quickly provide helpful information,
too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT truck battery

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> G wrote:

> Remove the cables from the battery and clean them and the
> battery post.. re-install them using some "battery cable grease".

Wheel bearing grease works well.

> Clean, Bright, and Tight... you are missing one of those
> three... IF the battery is holding good charge... have you load
> tested the battery? Most FLAPS will do it for you, for free.
> Start cheap, clean the cables and check for good ground
> connection and hot lead connection on the car... then test load
> test the battery.

A bad starter and a bad battery can act much the same if "turn the
key" is the only test.  The volt meter will help sort that out.

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT truck battery

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Buggered wrote:

> I have 6month old El Mercado de Wal battery in my truck.
> Doesn’t want to crank the engine over recently, occasionally.
> The voltmeter on the instrument cluster shows 14V which
> suggests the alternator is charging (right?).

Maybe. 

> Do you think the battery could have crapped out already?

Sure is possible.

> Starter might be going bad?

Also possible.

>... I want to check anything else first, and avoid EMdW if
> possible.

A voltmeter may be all that's needed.

#1 Battery (ideal, post to post) voltage at rest.
   (13.6-14.2 is normal)

#2 Battery voltage under load.  Starter is good.  But also a high
   load of somewhat known size.  Headlights can work. (if it's
   less than 9, either the battery lacks capacity or the current
   draw is really high)

#3 Voltage between engine block and battery "neg".
   (more than 1 VDC indicates there is probably a problem - likely
   bad connections)

#4 Voltage between starter motor and battery "pos"
   (More than a couple volts suggest a starter that is drawing too
   much)

#5 Optional - voltage between starter terminal and engine block.
   (This really ought to be batter voltage under load minus the
   drop of the starter wire as measured in test #4)

It is okay to use a long, thin wire to extend a terminal to the
meter for one that is out of reach  - like the starter.

What can really help diagnosis is to have all those readings for a
system that works good.  But even without that, these should be
able to narrow it down to likely culprits.

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Re: [MBZ] Was the world really a better place 30 years ago?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Consider too the number and type (hdmi, rca, rgb, composite) of inputs
unless you have a video receiver that comverts streams.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 12:59 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> How much do people feel is reasonable to spend on a TV these days?
>
> I will let someone else put the OT label on this thread
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 12:19 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I’m hard pressed to watch anything of significance on a small screen.
> > Can’t imagine watching a movie that way.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 12, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah. We have kids and they will watch as much as they are allowed to.
> I
> > > end up disconnecting their devices from the internet but it is harder
> now
> > > with all the home schooling stuff as they use the same devices for
> both.
> > >
> > > Anyway not much use for TV. We did watch the Fastest Indian the other
> > night
> > > on an ipad, which the 9yo thought was a great film. It was available
> free
> > > on youtube.
> > >
> > > Karl
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 11:19 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:
> > >>
> >  Remember, you are paying for them [advertisements], same as "show
> > time".
> > >>>
> > >>> The truly infuriating thing I just noticed is that even though we are
> > >>> paying for Amazon Prime, there are commercials!  They interrupt the
> > >>> show, exactly as on broadcast.  This is new, in my experience.
> > >>
> > >> I had Prime for a couple of years, and canceled it last time they
> raised
> > >> the renewal fee. I never ordered enough to offset the cost with the
> free
> > >> shipping, and the other services I just never used. I tried the video
> > >> service a couple of times but didn't find it compelling and navigating
> > >> the content was awkward compared to Netflix. I'd cancel Netflix too,
> > >> never watch it myself, but the family likes it.
> > >>
> > >> I actually never watch TV anymore. I'd watch baseball or hockey, but
> > >> there's none on now.
> > >>
> > >> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Was the world really a better place 30 years ago?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I looked at those but ended up buying a regular LED tv. 

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> On Apr 16, 2020, at 7:43 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The only TV's that I consider to be worthy successors to our Plasmas are the 
> OLEDs.
> When/if the time comes, nothing less need apply.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Was the world really a better place 30 years ago?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The only TV's that I consider to be worthy successors to our Plasmas are the 
OLEDs.
When/if the time comes, nothing less need apply.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Crackhead of the day

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/159168892087682/


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Re: [MBZ] 124 body wiring harness

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

The early w124 used the 126 seat heater relay. The later w124 cars had a
different setup and harness I think.

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> Thanks Dan,
>
> After I sent that, realized that I probably can figure out the answer
> using the EPC.
> --
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> '95 E300
>
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> >I think the heated seat bits have a separate harness.  At least I know
> >they did on the W126.
> >
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[MBZ] Carfax Please

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT truck battery

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Thanks y’all some good suggestions. I put in the battery recently so it’s new, 
but could still be bad I suppose, and cleaned everything and cables are tight 
but worth doing again for sure. And the other ends of the cables need to be 
checked too 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 5:20 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Remove the cables from the battery and clean them and the battery post..
> re-install them using some "battery cable grease".
> Clean, Bright, and Tight... you are missing one of those three... IF the
> battery is holding good charge... have you load tested the battery? Most
> FLAPS will do it for you, for free.
> Start cheap, clean the cables and check for good ground connection and hot
> lead connection on the car... then test load test the battery.
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:37 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Voltage on the battery at rest?
>> Check the other end of the battery cables and the ground strap too.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 4:27:11 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --R
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Buggered Benzmail 
>>> Date: April 16, 2020 at 3:30:54 PM EDT
>>> To: Mercedes mailing list 
>>> Subject: OT truck battery
>>> 
>>> I have 6month old El Mercado de Wal battery in my truck. Doesn’t want
>> to crank the engine over recently, occasionally.  The voltmeter on the
>> instrument cluster shows 14V which suggests the alternator is charging
>> (right?).  Alternator is like 15yo and maybe 60-70kmi. Cables are tight on
>> the battery.
>>> 
>>> Do you think the battery could have crapped out already?  Starter might
>> be going bad?  I guess I could go by EMdW and get it tested and swapped if
>> necessary but I want to check anything else first, and avoid EMdW if
>> possible
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Interesting. Never seen a home brewed one, but I can’t think it would be that 
difficult.

-D


> On Apr 16, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> But that was an approved unit. I am thinking more of the DIY ones that people 
> show on Youtube.
> 
> RB
> 
> On 16/04/2020 11:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> We had no issues with the insurance company.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If I had a waste oil heater, I would likely have done so since most of the 
>>> used oil I would have is synthetic. I don't generate enough used oil to 
>>> heat much and I suspect my insurance company would not be amused but the 
>>> whole idea is tempting.
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 12:13:21 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I don’t recall, but this one was very clean burning.
> 
> This is the place that makes them:
> 
> https://www.cleanburn.com/clean-burn-products/waste-oil-furnaces/
> 

The smallest one,
https://www.cleanburn.com/clean-burn-products/waste-oil-furnaces/cb-140/,
says it needs

 - Air compressor required  2.5 CFM @ 25 PSI
 - Electrical Requirements  115 VAC 60 Hz, single phase
30 A circuit breaker

That's amazing, particularly the electrical requirements.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Economics

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 13:45:43 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I tend to believe academic researchers over stuff on the web. 

That ad hominem attack was a rather cheap shot.

Academic researchers post stuff on the web, too.

Did you look at any of the links I posted? If you had, you could have
seen a link at the bottom of the pages to https://fee.org/about/faculty,
which, among other people, lists a lot of academic researchers (see list
at the bottom of this email, which contains 83 academic researchers).

So how am I to discern what you say or what I linked is (closer to) the
truth?


> Unemployment isn't to allow lazy people not to work, it's to keep
> business operating rather than the whole nation going bankrupt.

It seems to me, rather, it is to help those who have been terminated from
their jobs to stay partially afloat until they find their next employment.

It is, indeed, not to allow lazy people to not work; there are
requirements to receive unemployment compensation, among which is looking
for a new job and making a record of job contacts which can be followed
up by the state agency administering unemployment compensation.

It is a cost on business, both through payment of unemployment insurance
premiums and higher taxes, which provides for former workers.

Other than providing a pool of possible new hires in slightly better
condition than without it and maybe giving an employer a slight ease of
conscience when he discharges an employee, I cannot see any real benefits
or advantages for business.




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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT truck battery

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 14:19:06 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 20:36:48 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> >  Voltage on the battery at rest?
> > Check the other end of the battery cables and the ground strap too.
> > -Curt
>
> Remove the cables from the battery and clean them and the battery post..
> re-install them using some "battery cable grease".
> Clean, Bright, and Tight... you are missing one of those three... IF the
> battery is holding good charge... have you load tested the battery? Most
> FLAPS will do it for you, for free.
> Start cheap, clean the cables and check for good ground connection and
> hot lead connection on the car... then test load test the battery.

Good ideas. Do you have a digital multimeter to measure the voltage at
the battery's terminals?

How often do you run the truck's engine? Recall lead-acid batteries will
self discharge over the period of about a month or so.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 190D 5spd

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Actually i have been on some 201 rescue missions with both of them.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 4:35 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Fred is the 201 Meister.
>
> Bob R
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Groady color combo though...Besides Fred had more 201s than I did. His
> were all the good ones though. ;)
> > -Curt
> >
> >On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 12:28:43 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> > A Curtmobile
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:10 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> *Silver with a maroon interior - the kiss of death in the early 90s.
> That
> >> combination was a killer.*
> >>
> >> Meaning what?  I find it a lot more attractive than beige/beige or
> >> white/palomino.  And when the car was new even more so.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wow! Silver with a maroon interior - the kiss of death in the early
> 90s.
> >>> That combination was a killer.
> >>>
> >>> Probably worth $1200 for the parts, especially the transmission.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/219292062763389
> 
>  1984 Mercedes-Benz 190 d
>  $1,200
>  Vehicles <
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/106181149412603/vehicles/
> 
>  Listed 3 weeks ago in FL <
> >>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/104074486296063/>
> 
> 
>  About This Vehicle…
> 
>  Driven 180,000 miles
>  Manual transmission
>  Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Red
>  Fuel type: Diesel
>  Good condition <
> https://www.facebook.com/business/help/979881538883930
> >>>
> 
> 
>  Seller's description…
> 
>  190 D diesel five-speed runs I have title
> 
>  --
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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

But that was an approved unit. I am thinking more of the DIY ones that 
people show on Youtube.


RB

On 16/04/2020 11:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

We had no issues with the insurance company.

-D



On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:

If I had a waste oil heater, I would likely have done so since most of the used 
oil I would have is synthetic. I don't generate enough used oil to heat much 
and I suspect my insurance company would not be amused but the whole idea is 
tempting.

RB

On 16/04/2020 11:48 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Try it and let us know :-)

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:17 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Anyone know if used synthetic oil burns the same as non-synthetic in a
waste oil heater?

RB



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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT truck battery

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Remove the cables from the battery and clean them and the battery post..
re-install them using some "battery cable grease".
Clean, Bright, and Tight... you are missing one of those three... IF the
battery is holding good charge... have you load tested the battery? Most
FLAPS will do it for you, for free.
Start cheap, clean the cables and check for good ground connection and hot
lead connection on the car... then test load test the battery.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:37 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Voltage on the battery at rest?
> Check the other end of the battery cables and the ground strap too.
> -Curt
>
> On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 4:27:11 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
>
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Buggered Benzmail 
> > Date: April 16, 2020 at 3:30:54 PM EDT
> > To: Mercedes mailing list 
> > Subject: OT truck battery
> >
> > I have 6month old El Mercado de Wal battery in my truck. Doesn’t want
> to crank the engine over recently, occasionally.  The voltmeter on the
> instrument cluster shows 14V which suggests the alternator is charging
> (right?).  Alternator is like 15yo and maybe 60-70kmi. Cables are tight on
> the battery.
> >
> > Do you think the battery could have crapped out already?  Starter might
> be going bad?  I guess I could go by EMdW and get it tested and swapped if
> necessary but I want to check anything else first, and avoid EMdW if
> possible
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Pennzoil advertises that their synthetic motor oil is made from natural
gas.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 4:21 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Randy wrote:
>
> > Anyone know if used synthetic oil burns the same as
> > non-synthetic in a waste oil heater?
>
> Yes.  Burns the same.
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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I have a label maker that neatly solves those kinds of problems... it
prints on a plastic like material that applies with an adhesive  backing
[peel off , stick on]... Made by DYMO.
I use it to make labels to stick to oil filters , ie. date, mileage, engine
hours, etc. and to label and document engine work, oil change info, etc..
IF I recall.. less than $30 6 yrs ago. It has more than paid for it's self.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:04 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> > I have a yellow paint pen, but I'm not too sure how it would last on
> > electrical tape ...
>
> Or on the body of one of the plugs?  Probably mark both x1 and x10
> if done that way.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: OT truck battery

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Voltage on the battery at rest?
Check the other end of the battery cables and the ground strap too.
-Curt

On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 4:27:11 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 

--R
Sent from iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Buggered Benzmail 
> Date: April 16, 2020 at 3:30:54 PM EDT
> To: Mercedes mailing list 
> Subject: OT truck battery
> 
> I have 6month old El Mercado de Wal battery in my truck. Doesn’t want to 
> crank the engine over recently, occasionally.  The voltmeter on the 
> instrument cluster shows 14V which suggests the alternator is charging 
> (right?).  Alternator is like 15yo and maybe 60-70kmi. Cables are tight on 
> the battery. 
> 
> Do you think the battery could have crapped out already?  Starter might be 
> going bad?  I guess I could go by EMdW and get it tested and swapped if 
> necessary but I want to check anything else first, and avoid EMdW if possible 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 190D 5spd

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Fred is the 201 Meister. 

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Groady color combo though...Besides Fred had more 201s than I did. His were 
> all the good ones though. ;)
> -Curt
> 
>On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 12:28:43 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> A Curtmobile
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:10 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> *Silver with a maroon interior - the kiss of death in the early 90s. That
>> combination was a killer.*
>> 
>> Meaning what?  I find it a lot more attractive than beige/beige or
>> white/palomino.  And when the car was new even more so.
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow! Silver with a maroon interior - the kiss of death in the early 90s.
>>> That combination was a killer.
>>> 
>>> Probably worth $1200 for the parts, especially the transmission.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/219292062763389
 
 1984 Mercedes-Benz 190 d
 $1,200
 Vehicles <
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/106181149412603/vehicles/
 
 Listed 3 weeks ago in FL <
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/104074486296063/>
 
 
 About This Vehicle…
 
 Driven 180,000 miles
 Manual transmission
 Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Red
 Fuel type: Diesel
 Good condition >> 
 
 
 Seller's description…
 
 190 D diesel five-speed runs I have title
 
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Re: [MBZ] S-Class W140 Diesel for the Klebster!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

No miles listed but looks half decent for the $$

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Another one for your collection!
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/tampa-1993-mercedes-benz/7109228385.html
>  
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[MBZ] Fwd: OT truck battery

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

--R
Sent from iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Buggered Benzmail 
> Date: April 16, 2020 at 3:30:54 PM EDT
> To: Mercedes mailing list 
> Subject: OT truck battery
> 
> I have 6month old El Mercado de Wal battery in my truck. Doesn’t want to 
> crank the engine over recently, occasionally.  The voltmeter on the 
> instrument cluster shows 14V which suggests the alternator is charging 
> (right?).  Alternator is like 15yo and maybe 60-70kmi. Cables are tight on 
> the battery. 
> 
> Do you think the battery could have crapped out already?  Starter might be 
> going bad?   I guess I could go by EMdW and get it tested and swapped if 
> necessary but I want to check anything else first, and avoid EMdW if possible 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Randy wrote:

> Anyone know if used synthetic oil burns the same as
> non-synthetic in a waste oil heater?

Yes.  Burns the same.

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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Agreed. And I don’t recall the walls being insulated, but I do know the ceiling 
was. Big clear span steel building.

Either way, it definitely made for a nice place to work on your car when it was 
winter. You didn’t have to wear your Carharts and fingerless gloves.

-D

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Even "rarely open" probably equates to way more airflow than an average house 
> gets. A regular person door presents a pretty small hole compared to a garage 
> door...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 3:57:58 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Absolutely. We had a 20’ roll up door on both ends of the shop, but it was 
> rarely open in the winter unless a truck was coming in or going out. We kept 
> all of our service vehicles inside at all times.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Apr 16, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Curt Raymond  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Shops usually aren't insulated all that well and have doors open for way 
> > more significant amounts of time than a house would.
> > 
> > -Curt
> > 
> > On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 2:51:31 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > These things suck it down, believe me. I think we had a 200,000 BTU model 
> > and would go through 500+ gallons of oil in a season, possibly more (this 
> > is in central Indiana). Understand that we were generating waste oil on an 
> > almost daily basis, probably collecting as much as 1,000 gallons or more in 
> > a year’s time. Used to be the SafetyKleen guys bought waste oil, and would 
> > pay a small amount for it. We would use that that to buy beer money for the 
> > shop. Then the “cradle to grave” stuff for oils and industrial chemicals 
> > kicked in and they stopped paying, and later even started charging to 
> > remove it. We had been burning waste oil prior to this, but on a much 
> > smaller scale with a smaller furnace used to heat the office in the shop. 
> > This was the tipping point where we decided to move up to a furnace large 
> > enough to heat the whole shop building and keep all of our waste oil. It 
> > worked quite well.
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > 
> > > On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  > >   > > >> wrote:
> > > 
> > > I seriously thought about it when we moved here - I have a 2000 sq. ft.
> > > hangar that I work in year round. However, the last two winters haven't
> > > been cold enough to have warranted having one. It is insulated and only 
> > > got
> > > down to 42°F this winter. I generate more waste oil now with the airplane,
> > > though the car and truck only get changed once a year. I collect the waste
> > > oil in a 55 gallon barrel, it's a little over half full now.
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:54 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com  
> > > >> wrote:
> > > 
> > >> If I had a waste oil heater, I would likely have done so since most of
> > >> the used oil I would have is synthetic. I don't generate enough used oil
> > >> to heat much and I suspect my insurance company would not be amused but
> > >> the whole idea is tempting.
> > >> 
> > >> RB
> > >> 
> > >> On 16/04/2020 11:48 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > >>> Try it and let us know :-)
> > >>> 
> > >>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:17 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com  
> > >>> >> wrote:
> > >>> 
> >  Anyone know if used synthetic oil burns the same as non-synthetic in a
> >  waste oil heater?
> >  
> >  RB
> >  
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> > > 
> > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> > > 
> > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
> > > Wernher
> > > Von Braun
> > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Even "rarely open" probably equates to way more airflow than an average house 
gets. A regular person door presents a pretty small hole compared to a garage 
door...
-Curt

On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 3:57:58 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Absolutely. We had a 20’ roll up door on both ends of the shop, but it was 
rarely open in the winter unless a truck was coming in or going out. We kept 
all of our service vehicles inside at all times.

-D

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Shops usually aren't insulated all that well and have doors open for way more 
> significant amounts of time than a house would.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 2:51:31 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> These things suck it down, believe me. I think we had a 200,000 BTU model and 
> would go through 500+ gallons of oil in a season, possibly more (this is in 
> central Indiana). Understand that we were generating waste oil on an almost 
> daily basis, probably collecting as much as 1,000 gallons or more in a year’s 
> time. Used to be the SafetyKleen guys bought waste oil, and would pay a small 
> amount for it. We would use that that to buy beer money for the shop. Then 
> the “cradle to grave” stuff for oils and industrial chemicals kicked in and 
> they stopped paying, and later even started charging to remove it. We had 
> been burning waste oil prior to this, but on a much smaller scale with a 
> smaller furnace used to heat the office in the shop. This was the tipping 
> point where we decided to move up to a furnace large enough to heat the whole 
> shop building and keep all of our waste oil. It worked quite well.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  > > wrote:
> > 
> > I seriously thought about it when we moved here - I have a 2000 sq. ft.
> > hangar that I work in year round. However, the last two winters haven't
> > been cold enough to have warranted having one. It is insulated and only got
> > down to 42°F this winter. I generate more waste oil now with the airplane,
> > though the car and truck only get changed once a year. I collect the waste
> > oil in a 55 gallon barrel, it's a little over half full now.
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:54 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > 
> >> If I had a waste oil heater, I would likely have done so since most of
> >> the used oil I would have is synthetic. I don't generate enough used oil
> >> to heat much and I suspect my insurance company would not be amused but
> >> the whole idea is tempting.
> >> 
> >> RB
> >> 
> >> On 16/04/2020 11:48 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Try it and let us know :-)
> >>> 
> >>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:17 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>> 
>  Anyone know if used synthetic oil burns the same as non-synthetic in a
>  waste oil heater?
>  
>  RB
>  
> >> 
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> > -- 
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> > 
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> > 
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
> > Wernher
> > Von Braun
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Absolutely. We had a 20’ roll up door on both ends of the shop, but it was 
rarely open in the winter unless a truck was coming in or going out. We kept 
all of our service vehicles inside at all times.

-D

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Shops usually aren't insulated all that well and have doors open for way more 
> significant amounts of time than a house would.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 2:51:31 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> These things suck it down, believe me. I think we had a 200,000 BTU model and 
> would go through 500+ gallons of oil in a season, possibly more (this is in 
> central Indiana). Understand that we were generating waste oil on an almost 
> daily basis, probably collecting as much as 1,000 gallons or more in a year’s 
> time. Used to be the SafetyKleen guys bought waste oil, and would pay a small 
> amount for it. We would use that that to buy beer money for the shop. Then 
> the “cradle to grave” stuff for oils and industrial chemicals kicked in and 
> they stopped paying, and later even started charging to remove it. We had 
> been burning waste oil prior to this, but on a much smaller scale with a 
> smaller furnace used to heat the office in the shop. This was the tipping 
> point where we decided to move up to a furnace large enough to heat the whole 
> shop building and keep all of our waste oil. It worked quite well.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  > > wrote:
> > 
> > I seriously thought about it when we moved here - I have a 2000 sq. ft.
> > hangar that I work in year round. However, the last two winters haven't
> > been cold enough to have warranted having one. It is insulated and only got
> > down to 42°F this winter. I generate more waste oil now with the airplane,
> > though the car and truck only get changed once a year. I collect the waste
> > oil in a 55 gallon barrel, it's a little over half full now.
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:54 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > 
> >> If I had a waste oil heater, I would likely have done so since most of
> >> the used oil I would have is synthetic. I don't generate enough used oil
> >> to heat much and I suspect my insurance company would not be amused but
> >> the whole idea is tempting.
> >> 
> >> RB
> >> 
> >> On 16/04/2020 11:48 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Try it and let us know :-)
> >>> 
> >>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:17 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>> 
>  Anyone know if used synthetic oil burns the same as non-synthetic in a
>  waste oil heater?
>  
>  RB
>  
> >> 
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> > -- 
> > OK Don
> > 
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> > 
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
> > Wernher
> > Von Braun
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Shops usually aren't insulated all that well and have doors open for way more 
significant amounts of time than a house would.
-Curt

On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 2:51:31 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 These things suck it down, believe me. I think we had a 200,000 BTU model and 
would go through 500+ gallons of oil in a season, possibly more (this is in 
central Indiana). Understand that we were generating waste oil on an almost 
daily basis, probably collecting as much as 1,000 gallons or more in a year’s 
time. Used to be the SafetyKleen guys bought waste oil, and would pay a small 
amount for it. We would use that that to buy beer money for the shop. Then the 
“cradle to grave” stuff for oils and industrial chemicals kicked in and they 
stopped paying, and later even started charging to remove it. We had been 
burning waste oil prior to this, but on a much smaller scale with a smaller 
furnace used to heat the office in the shop. This was the tipping point where 
we decided to move up to a furnace large enough to heat the whole shop building 
and keep all of our waste oil. It worked quite well.

-D


> On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I seriously thought about it when we moved here - I have a 2000 sq. ft.
> hangar that I work in year round. However, the last two winters haven't
> been cold enough to have warranted having one. It is insulated and only got
> down to 42°F this winter. I generate more waste oil now with the airplane,
> though the car and truck only get changed once a year. I collect the waste
> oil in a 55 gallon barrel, it's a little over half full now.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:54 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> If I had a waste oil heater, I would likely have done so since most of
>> the used oil I would have is synthetic. I don't generate enough used oil
>> to heat much and I suspect my insurance company would not be amused but
>> the whole idea is tempting.
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>> On 16/04/2020 11:48 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Try it and let us know :-)
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:17 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Anyone know if used synthetic oil burns the same as non-synthetic in a
 waste oil heater?
 
 RB
 
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> -- 
> OK Don
> 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
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> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] S-Class W140 Diesel for the Klebster!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I was wondering what those were. I didn’t look closely.

Some dental floss and 3M Adhesive Remover and they’re gone.

-D


> On Apr 16, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good deal and nice car but the stick on vents on the side have to go. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Another one for your collection!
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/tampa-1993-mercedes-benz/7109228385.html
>>  
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] S-Class W140 Diesel for the Klebster!

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Good deal and nice car but the stick on vents on the side have to go. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Another one for your collection!
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/tampa-1993-mercedes-benz/7109228385.html
>  
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Was the world really a better place 30 years ago?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Our 32" LG was my 15 year anniversary present from work.
I don't need a TV but would spend a couple hundred bucks on a computer monitor.
-Curt

   On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 12:59:36 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 How much do people feel is reasonable to spend on a TV these days?

I will let someone else put the OT label on this thread

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 12:19 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I’m hard pressed to watch anything of significance on a small screen.
> Can’t imagine watching a movie that way.
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Apr 12, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah. We have kids and they will watch as much as they are allowed to. I
> > end up disconnecting their devices from the internet but it is harder now
> > with all the home schooling stuff as they use the same devices for both.
> >
> > Anyway not much use for TV. We did watch the Fastest Indian the other
> night
> > on an ipad, which the 9yo thought was a great film. It was available free
> > on youtube.
> >
> > Karl
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 11:19 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:
> >>
>  Remember, you are paying for them [advertisements], same as "show
> time".
> >>>
> >>> The truly infuriating thing I just noticed is that even though we are
> >>> paying for Amazon Prime, there are commercials!  They interrupt the
> >>> show, exactly as on broadcast.  This is new, in my experience.
> >>
> >> I had Prime for a couple of years, and canceled it last time they raised
> >> the renewal fee. I never ordered enough to offset the cost with the free
> >> shipping, and the other services I just never used. I tried the video
> >> service a couple of times but didn't find it compelling and navigating
> >> the content was awkward compared to Netflix. I'd cancel Netflix too,
> >> never watch it myself, but the family likes it.
> >>
> >> I actually never watch TV anymore. I'd watch baseball or hockey, but
> >> there's none on now.
> >>
> >> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 AFAIK these days most "synthetic oil" is just highly refined conventional oil 
so it shouldn't matter.I remember somebody (Marshall?) suggesting that while a 
quart of conventional oil in the fuel tank was a good thing, that synthetic 
didn't burn well and was a bad idea. Of course I've heard a bunch of foolish 
ideas about synthetic over the years, including the one that says you "Can't 
use it in air cooled engines" which is just crap. I've used synthetic almost 
exclusively in all my lawnmowers and snowblowers for nearly 20 years now. The 
one time we had a failure it was when dad took a lawnmower out to mow on last 
year's oil. He was only "going to take it out for a minute to warm it up." 30 
minutes later he came walking back, the rod was hanging out through the side of 
the block...
Now I change the oil in the fall.

-Curt

On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 12:54:40 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 If I had a waste oil heater, I would likely have done so since most of 
the used oil I would have is synthetic. I don't generate enough used oil 
to heat much and I suspect my insurance company would not be amused but 
the whole idea is tempting.

RB

On 16/04/2020 11:48 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> Try it and let us know :-)
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:17 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Anyone know if used synthetic oil burns the same as non-synthetic in a
>> waste oil heater?
>>
>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] 190D 5spd

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Groady color combo though...Besides Fred had more 201s than I did. His were 
all the good ones though. ;)
-Curt

On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 12:28:43 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 A Curtmobile
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:10 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> *Silver with a maroon interior - the kiss of death in the early 90s. That
> combination was a killer.*
>
> Meaning what?  I find it a lot more attractive than beige/beige or
> white/palomino.  And when the car was new even more so.
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>
> > Wow! Silver with a maroon interior - the kiss of death in the early 90s.
> > That combination was a killer.
> >
> > Probably worth $1200 for the parts, especially the transmission.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/219292062763389
> > >
> > > 1984 Mercedes-Benz 190 d
> > > $1,200
> > > Vehicles <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/106181149412603/vehicles/
> > >
> > > Listed 3 weeks ago in FL <
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/104074486296063/>
> > >
> > >
> > > About This Vehicle…
> > >
> > > Driven 180,000 miles
> > > Manual transmission
> > > Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Red
> > > Fuel type: Diesel
> > > Good condition  >
> > >
> > >
> > > Seller's description…
> > >
> > > 190 D diesel five-speed runs I have title
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 190D 5spd

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Good for a toad. I’m learning all these fancy RV-er words. 

Bob R

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> On Apr 16, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> Burned off paint but I love that interior. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 16, 2020, at 9:35 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/219292062763389
>> 
>> 1984 Mercedes-Benz 190 d
>> $1,200
>> Vehicles 
>> Listed 3 weeks ago in FL 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> About This Vehicle…
>> 
>> Driven 180,000 miles
>> Manual transmission
>> Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Red
>> Fuel type: Diesel
>> Good condition 
>> 
>> 
>> Seller's description…
>> 
>> 190 D diesel five-speed runs I have title
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A Far Better Deal...

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Both?

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 12:34 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Definitely.  Is that a turbo or Bluetec?
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 3:01 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > That is worth exploring
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > …than the hail damaged one the guy in another part of town is still
> > trying to sell for $4200 FIRM:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/ctd/d/bradenton-2007-mercedes-class-e320-cdi/7099246309.html
> > <
> >
> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/ctd/d/bradenton-2007-mercedes-class-e320-cdi/7099246309.html
> > >
> > >
> > > The hail damaged $4200 FIRM car:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/new-port-richey-07-mercedes-320-bluetec/7108543557.html
> > <
> >
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/new-port-richey-07-mercedes-320-bluetec/7108543557.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Competition will drag him down. For what it’s worth, I ran a VMI on the
> > hail damaged car and it was dealer maintained from new until about 2014.
> > Everything, I mean everything, was done by the dealer. I wonder what they
> > paid the insurance company for it?
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Was the world really a better place 30 years ago?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

WHat's the smallese TV that has OLED?

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 3:01 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> I totally agree, however, there are some things you simply can’t escape
> whether the TV is current or a year old.
>
> Connectivity - Don’t. It adds little in the way of functionality,
> compromises your privacy, and the manufacturer’s applications that are on
> the TV are generally crap. An Amazon Firestick as Karl mentioned previously
> is a far better option for getting content along with a cable box if you’re
> going that direction.
>
> Picture quality - while the UHD TVs have excellent picture quality, the
> OLED TVs have breathtaking picture quality. There’s truly a difference
> between the two. This may or may not matter to you, but definitely compare
> them. While it wouldn’t and didn’t matter to me (I didn’t let anyone watch
> the demo TV in the store, I picked it out and brought it home) I can see
> where it might to some viewers. There really is a striking difference in
> picture quality between the two technologies. However, if it’s double the
> cost it might not make fiscal sense to some as it didn’t to me.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 16, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > As with most consumer tech items, the best values are usually found with
> > the stuff that's one or two years behind the leading edge.
> >
> > That's how I buy phones, computers, etc. I haven't bought a TV in years
> > and if it weren't for the rest of the family I probably would not own
> > one, but the same principle applies.
> >
> > Allan
> >
> > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
> >
> >> I suggest a trip to Costco where they have two aisles of oversized TVs
> of
> >> varying specs and picture quality.  It all boils down to how picky you
> are
> >> in keeping up with the joneses.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:59 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> How much do people feel is reasonable to spend on a TV these days?
> >>>
> >>> I will let someone else put the OT label on this thread
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 12:19 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  I’m hard pressed to watch anything of significance on a small screen.
>  Can’t imagine watching a movie that way.
> 
>  -D
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Re: [MBZ] A Far Better Deal...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Definitely.  Is that a turbo or Bluetec?

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 3:01 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> That is worth exploring
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > …than the hail damaged one the guy in another part of town is still
> trying to sell for $4200 FIRM:
> >
> >
> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/ctd/d/bradenton-2007-mercedes-class-e320-cdi/7099246309.html
> <
> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/ctd/d/bradenton-2007-mercedes-class-e320-cdi/7099246309.html
> >
> >
> > The hail damaged $4200 FIRM car:
> >
> >
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/new-port-richey-07-mercedes-320-bluetec/7108543557.html
> <
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/new-port-richey-07-mercedes-320-bluetec/7108543557.html
> >
> >
> > Competition will drag him down. For what it’s worth, I ran a VMI on the
> hail damaged car and it was dealer maintained from new until about 2014.
> Everything, I mean everything, was done by the dealer. I wonder what they
> paid the insurance company for it?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190d Diesel PACKAGE DEAL!!!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Someone oughta jump on that, assuming all three cars drive/shift/stop and
have titles.

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> The 2 Benz look good
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Apr 16, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/582086005986465
> >
> > $4,500
> > Vehicles  >
> > Listed 3 weeks ago in Marietta, GA <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/111822758834362/>
> >
> >
> > About This Vehicle…
> >
> > Driven 251,000 miles
> > Manual transmission
> > Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Grey
> > Good condition 
> >
> >
> > Seller's description…
> >
> > Selling all three - 1) 1986 Mercedes 190 Diesel 5 speed Manual 2) 1989
> Mercedes 560 SEL and 3) 1988 Lincoln Towncar. Inbox me what you like
> >
> > --
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[MBZ] S-Class W140 Diesel for the Klebster!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Another one for your collection!

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/tampa-1993-mercedes-benz/7109228385.html 


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[MBZ] S-Class W140 Diesel for the Klebster!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Another one for your collection!

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/d/tampa-1993-mercedes-benz/7109228385.html 


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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yes - the smallest one burns up to 1 GPH - 55 gallons would not last long.
https://www.cleanburn.com/clean-burn-products/waste-oil-furnaces/cb-140/

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> These things suck it down, believe me. I think we had a 200,000 BTU model
> and would go through 500+ gallons of oil in a season, possibly more (this
> is in central Indiana). Understand that we were generating waste oil on an
> almost daily basis, probably collecting as much as 1,000 gallons or more in
> a year’s time. Used to be the SafetyKleen guys bought waste oil, and would
> pay a small amount for it. We would use that that to buy beer money for the
> shop. Then the “cradle to grave” stuff for oils and industrial chemicals
> kicked in and they stopped paying, and later even started charging to
> remove it. We had been burning waste oil prior to this, but on a much
> smaller scale with a smaller furnace used to heat the office in the shop.
> This was the tipping point where we decided to move up to a furnace large
> enough to heat the whole shop building and keep all of our waste oil. It
> worked quite well.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I seriously thought about it when we moved here - I have a 2000 sq. ft.
> > hangar that I work in year round. However, the last two winters haven't
> > been cold enough to have warranted having one. It is insulated and only
> got
> > down to 42°F this winter. I generate more waste oil now with the
> airplane,
> > though the car and truck only get changed once a year. I collect the
> waste
> > oil in a 55 gallon barrel, it's a little over half full now.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:54 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If I had a waste oil heater, I would likely have done so since most of
> >> the used oil I would have is synthetic. I don't generate enough used oil
> >> to heat much and I suspect my insurance company would not be amused but
> >> the whole idea is tempting.
> >>
> >> RB
> >>
> >> On 16/04/2020 11:48 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Try it and let us know :-)
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:17 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Anyone know if used synthetic oil burns the same as non-synthetic in a
>  waste oil heater?
> 
>  RB
> 
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> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] Was the world really a better place 30 years ago?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I totally agree, however, there are some things you simply can’t escape whether 
the TV is current or a year old.

Connectivity - Don’t. It adds little in the way of functionality, compromises 
your privacy, and the manufacturer’s applications that are on the TV are 
generally crap. An Amazon Firestick as Karl mentioned previously is a far 
better option for getting content along with a cable box if you’re going that 
direction.

Picture quality - while the UHD TVs have excellent picture quality, the OLED 
TVs have breathtaking picture quality. There’s truly a difference between the 
two. This may or may not matter to you, but definitely compare them. While it 
wouldn’t and didn’t matter to me (I didn’t let anyone watch the demo TV in the 
store, I picked it out and brought it home) I can see where it might to some 
viewers. There really is a striking difference in picture quality between the 
two technologies. However, if it’s double the cost it might not make fiscal 
sense to some as it didn’t to me.

-D

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> As with most consumer tech items, the best values are usually found with
> the stuff that's one or two years behind the leading edge.
> 
> That's how I buy phones, computers, etc. I haven't bought a TV in years
> and if it weren't for the rest of the family I probably would not own
> one, but the same principle applies.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> I suggest a trip to Costco where they have two aisles of oversized TVs of
>> varying specs and picture quality.  It all boils down to how picky you are
>> in keeping up with the joneses.
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:59 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> How much do people feel is reasonable to spend on a TV these days?
>>> 
>>> I will let someone else put the OT label on this thread
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 12:19 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I’m hard pressed to watch anything of significance on a small screen.
 Can’t imagine watching a movie that way.
 
 -D
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Re: [MBZ] A Far Better Deal...

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

That is worth exploring 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> …than the hail damaged one the guy in another part of town is still trying 
> to sell for $4200 FIRM:
> 
> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/ctd/d/bradenton-2007-mercedes-class-e320-cdi/7099246309.html
>  
> 
> 
> The hail damaged $4200 FIRM car:
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/new-port-richey-07-mercedes-320-bluetec/7108543557.html
>  
> 
> 
> Competition will drag him down. For what it’s worth, I ran a VMI on the hail 
> damaged car and it was dealer maintained from new until about 2014. 
> Everything, I mean everything, was done by the dealer. I wonder what they 
> paid the insurance company for it?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190d Diesel PACKAGE DEAL!!!

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The 2 Benz look good 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/582086005986465
> 
> $4,500
> Vehicles 
> Listed 3 weeks ago in Marietta, GA 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 251,000 miles
> Manual transmission
> Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Grey
> Good condition 
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> Selling all three - 1) 1986 Mercedes 190 Diesel 5 speed Manual 2) 1989 
> Mercedes 560 SEL and 3) 1988 Lincoln Towncar. Inbox me what you like
> 
> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] 190D 5spd

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Burned off paint but I love that interior. 

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> On Apr 16, 2020, at 9:35 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/219292062763389
> 
> 1984 Mercedes-Benz 190 d
> $1,200
> Vehicles 
> Listed 3 weeks ago in FL 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 180,000 miles
> Manual transmission
> Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Red
> Fuel type: Diesel
> Good condition 
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> 190 D diesel five-speed runs I have title
> 
> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

These things suck it down, believe me. I think we had a 200,000 BTU model and 
would go through 500+ gallons of oil in a season, possibly more (this is in 
central Indiana). Understand that we were generating waste oil on an almost 
daily basis, probably collecting as much as 1,000 gallons or more in a year’s 
time. Used to be the SafetyKleen guys bought waste oil, and would pay a small 
amount for it. We would use that that to buy beer money for the shop. Then the 
“cradle to grave” stuff for oils and industrial chemicals kicked in and they 
stopped paying, and later even started charging to remove it. We had been 
burning waste oil prior to this, but on a much smaller scale with a smaller 
furnace used to heat the office in the shop. This was the tipping point where 
we decided to move up to a furnace large enough to heat the whole shop building 
and keep all of our waste oil. It worked quite well.

-D


> On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I seriously thought about it when we moved here - I have a 2000 sq. ft.
> hangar that I work in year round. However, the last two winters haven't
> been cold enough to have warranted having one. It is insulated and only got
> down to 42°F this winter. I generate more waste oil now with the airplane,
> though the car and truck only get changed once a year. I collect the waste
> oil in a 55 gallon barrel, it's a little over half full now.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:54 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> If I had a waste oil heater, I would likely have done so since most of
>> the used oil I would have is synthetic. I don't generate enough used oil
>> to heat much and I suspect my insurance company would not be amused but
>> the whole idea is tempting.
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>> On 16/04/2020 11:48 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Try it and let us know :-)
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:17 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Anyone know if used synthetic oil burns the same as non-synthetic in a
 waste oil heater?
 
 RB
 
>> 
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> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
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Re: [MBZ] Was the world really a better place 30 years ago?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

As with most consumer tech items, the best values are usually found with
the stuff that's one or two years behind the leading edge.

That's how I buy phones, computers, etc. I haven't bought a TV in years
and if it weren't for the rest of the family I probably would not own
one, but the same principle applies.

Allan

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

>  I suggest a trip to Costco where they have two aisles of oversized TVs of
> varying specs and picture quality.  It all boils down to how picky you are
> in keeping up with the joneses.
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:59 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> How much do people feel is reasonable to spend on a TV these days?
>>
>> I will let someone else put the OT label on this thread
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 12:19 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I’m hard pressed to watch anything of significance on a small screen.
>> > Can’t imagine watching a movie that way.
>> >
>> > -D

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Re: [MBZ] Was the world really a better place 30 years ago?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

 I suggest a trip to Costco where they have two aisles of oversized TVs of
varying specs and picture quality.  It all boils down to how picky you are
in keeping up with the joneses.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:59 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> How much do people feel is reasonable to spend on a TV these days?
>
> I will let someone else put the OT label on this thread
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 12:19 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I’m hard pressed to watch anything of significance on a small screen.
> > Can’t imagine watching a movie that way.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 12, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah. We have kids and they will watch as much as they are allowed to.
> I
> > > end up disconnecting their devices from the internet but it is harder
> now
> > > with all the home schooling stuff as they use the same devices for
> both.
> > >
> > > Anyway not much use for TV. We did watch the Fastest Indian the other
> > night
> > > on an ipad, which the 9yo thought was a great film. It was available
> free
> > > on youtube.
> > >
> > > Karl
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 11:19 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:
> > >>
> >  Remember, you are paying for them [advertisements], same as "show
> > time".
> > >>>
> > >>> The truly infuriating thing I just noticed is that even though we are
> > >>> paying for Amazon Prime, there are commercials!  They interrupt the
> > >>> show, exactly as on broadcast.  This is new, in my experience.
> > >>
> > >> I had Prime for a couple of years, and canceled it last time they
> raised
> > >> the renewal fee. I never ordered enough to offset the cost with the
> free
> > >> shipping, and the other services I just never used. I tried the video
> > >> service a couple of times but didn't find it compelling and navigating
> > >> the content was awkward compared to Netflix. I'd cancel Netflix too,
> > >> never watch it myself, but the family likes it.
> > >>
> > >> I actually never watch TV anymore. I'd watch baseball or hockey, but
> > >> there's none on now.
> > >>
> > >> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] A Far Better Deal...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

White with tan, I guess a good suthrun car.  But yeah that could be a 
good deal


--FT

On 4/16/20 1:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

…than the hail damaged one the guy in another part of town is still trying to 
sell for $4200 FIRM:

https://sarasota.craigslist.org/ctd/d/bradenton-2007-mercedes-class-e320-cdi/7099246309.html
 


The hail damaged $4200 FIRM car:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/new-port-richey-07-mercedes-320-bluetec/7108543557.html
 


Competition will drag him down. For what it’s worth, I ran a VMI on the hail 
damaged car and it was dealer maintained from new until about 2014. Everything, 
I mean everything, was done by the dealer. I wonder what they paid the 
insurance company for it?

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Half off at Wiha

[OK Don via Mercedes]

When an Allen wrench tip gets rounded, I just cut off the damaged end with
a Dremel cut-off disk, then it's as good as new.

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> My first set of handle driver Allen wrenches was Wiha, or as the hobby
> shop owner called them, W HAA! They had very comfortable
> handles with a top knob that went into your palm that would turn as the
> tool was twisted in your fingers. I hope you get my explanation. At the
> time (early 90s), they were $50 for the set of metric Allen drivers from
> 1.5mm to 5mm, a total of 8 drivers. They didn’t have replaceable tips, so
> when they stripped out, they were done. I’m not sure of their warranty. Now
> that I’m going to start my RC car trade-in business, I may invest in some
> more We Ha Allen drivers.
> Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
> 2019 Sprinter 720 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard AKA Der DoodleWagen
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard, no news in a while, still in the shop
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> > On Apr 16, 2020, at 7:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> >  Made in Germany...
> > -Curt
> >
> >On Wednesday, April 15, 2020, 11:33:25 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> > Kinda pricey even at half off.  Are they really worth it?
> >
> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 7:57 PM Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Discount code 50KCELEBRATE gives 50% off and free shipping on $50
> orders.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Half off at Wiha

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

My first set of handle driver Allen wrenches was Wiha, or as the hobby shop 
owner called them, W HAA! They had very comfortable handles with a 
top knob that went into your palm that would turn as the tool was twisted in 
your fingers. I hope you get my explanation. At the time (early 90s), they were 
$50 for the set of metric Allen drivers from 1.5mm to 5mm, a total of 8 
drivers. They didn’t have replaceable tips, so when they stripped out, they 
were done. I’m not sure of their warranty. Now that I’m going to start my RC 
car trade-in business, I may invest in some more We Ha Allen drivers.
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
2019 Sprinter 720 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard AKA Der DoodleWagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard, no news in a while, still in the shop

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 7:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Made in Germany...
> -Curt
> 
>On Wednesday, April 15, 2020, 11:33:25 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via 
> Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> Kinda pricey even at half off.  Are they really worth it?
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 7:57 PM Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Discount code 50KCELEBRATE gives 50% off and free shipping on $50 orders.
>> 
>> https://www.wihatools.com/
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[MBZ] A Far Better Deal...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

…than the hail damaged one the guy in another part of town is still trying to 
sell for $4200 FIRM:

https://sarasota.craigslist.org/ctd/d/bradenton-2007-mercedes-class-e320-cdi/7099246309.html
 


The hail damaged $4200 FIRM car:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/new-port-richey-07-mercedes-320-bluetec/7108543557.html
 


Competition will drag him down. For what it’s worth, I ran a VMI on the hail 
damaged car and it was dealer maintained from new until about 2014. Everything, 
I mean everything, was done by the dealer. I wonder what they paid the 
insurance company for it?

-D 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Max here's a donor

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Ten years too young to help me.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:45 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> CLK320 wrecked
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2686611948236273
>
> $650
> Vehicles 
> Listed 3 weeks ago in Brunswick, GA
> 
>
>
>   About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 122,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
>
>
>   Seller's description…
>
> Parts or whole car
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[MBZ] OT - Now TV - Was Was the world really a better place 30 years ago?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Depends.

I think the big difference is whether you go with standard UHD TV or the OLED 
TVs.

I bought a new TV late last year, and the price point between the two was the 
determining factor for where I spent my money. An OLED TV will probably start 
around $1200-$1500 depending on size and features, where a nice UHD TV can be 
had in the range of $600-$800, again, dependent on size, brand and feature set.

I think I spent around $800 for a 65” Samsung at Costco.

-D


> On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How much do people feel is reasonable to spend on a TV these days?
> 
> I will let someone else put the OT label on this thread
> 
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 12:19 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Wow, I coulda had a V-8

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Man a c body with a 55k would be a really quick machine. I wonder if anyone
tracks them.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020, 5:22 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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> Nope. No ragtops. Vario (hard) top convertibles only.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 15, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Mrs Poos needed this:
> >
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2002-mercedes-benz-clk55-amg-14/
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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I seriously thought about it when we moved here - I have a 2000 sq. ft.
hangar that I work in year round. However, the last two winters haven't
been cold enough to have warranted having one. It is insulated and only got
down to 42°F this winter. I generate more waste oil now with the airplane,
though the car and truck only get changed once a year. I collect the waste
oil in a 55 gallon barrel, it's a little over half full now.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:54 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> If I had a waste oil heater, I would likely have done so since most of
> the used oil I would have is synthetic. I don't generate enough used oil
> to heat much and I suspect my insurance company would not be amused but
> the whole idea is tempting.
>
> RB
>
> On 16/04/2020 11:48 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > Try it and let us know :-)
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:17 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> >
> >> Anyone know if used synthetic oil burns the same as non-synthetic in a
> >> waste oil heater?
> >>
> >> RB
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Was the world really a better place 30 years ago?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

How much do people feel is reasonable to spend on a TV these days?

I will let someone else put the OT label on this thread

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 12:19 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I’m hard pressed to watch anything of significance on a small screen.
> Can’t imagine watching a movie that way.
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Apr 12, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah. We have kids and they will watch as much as they are allowed to. I
> > end up disconnecting their devices from the internet but it is harder now
> > with all the home schooling stuff as they use the same devices for both.
> >
> > Anyway not much use for TV. We did watch the Fastest Indian the other
> night
> > on an ipad, which the 9yo thought was a great film. It was available free
> > on youtube.
> >
> > Karl
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020, 11:19 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:
> >>
>  Remember, you are paying for them [advertisements], same as "show
> time".
> >>>
> >>> The truly infuriating thing I just noticed is that even though we are
> >>> paying for Amazon Prime, there are commercials!  They interrupt the
> >>> show, exactly as on broadcast.  This is new, in my experience.
> >>
> >> I had Prime for a couple of years, and canceled it last time they raised
> >> the renewal fee. I never ordered enough to offset the cost with the free
> >> shipping, and the other services I just never used. I tried the video
> >> service a couple of times but didn't find it compelling and navigating
> >> the content was awkward compared to Netflix. I'd cancel Netflix too,
> >> never watch it myself, but the family likes it.
> >>
> >> I actually never watch TV anymore. I'd watch baseball or hockey, but
> >> there's none on now.
> >>
> >> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We had no issues with the insurance company.

-D


> On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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> 
> If I had a waste oil heater, I would likely have done so since most of the 
> used oil I would have is synthetic. I don't generate enough used oil to heat 
> much and I suspect my insurance company would not be amused but the whole 
> idea is tempting.
> 
> RB
> 
> On 16/04/2020 11:48 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> Try it and let us know :-)
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:17 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Anyone know if used synthetic oil burns the same as non-synthetic in a
>>> waste oil heater?
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

If I had a waste oil heater, I would likely have done so since most of 
the used oil I would have is synthetic. I don't generate enough used oil 
to heat much and I suspect my insurance company would not be amused but 
the whole idea is tempting.


RB

On 16/04/2020 11:48 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Try it and let us know :-)

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:17 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Anyone know if used synthetic oil burns the same as non-synthetic in a
waste oil heater?

RB




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Re: [MBZ] Question For Jaime

[OK Don via Mercedes]

They are in the ends of the rear bumper cover on our Subaru. Since it uses
microwaves (RF) and the covers are plastic, they are hidden inside - you
can't see them from the outside.

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> Randy writes:
>
> >Will it be something very similar to the back up >sensors in the bumper
> that beep faster as my truck >gets closer to an object?
>
> RB
>
> I thought that too,  however I see no evidence of them on the sides of the
> car.
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[MBZ] Classic Limited edition 1997 Mercedes SL500

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

…but I can’t take the time to run the sweeper over it a few times.

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/d/spring-hill-classic-limited-edition/7107267402.html
 


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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Try it and let us know :-)

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:17 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Anyone know if used synthetic oil burns the same as non-synthetic in a
> waste oil heater?
>
> RB
>
> On 16/04/2020 11:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > I don’t recall, but this one was very clean burning.
> >
> > This is the place that makes them:
> >
> > https://www.cleanburn.com/clean-burn-products/waste-oil-furnaces/ <
> https://www.cleanburn.com/clean-burn-products/waste-oil-furnaces/>
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I remember old waste oil heaters, got a lot of smoke out of them.  I
> wonder what kind of filters and nozzles they used in those things
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >> On 4/16/20 7:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Makes sense.
> >>>
> >>> I would think a lot of people would use waste oil for heating. In the
> generator service business I used to be in we had an oil furnace in the
> shop that was designed to burn waste motor oil, and our annual collection
> of waste oil was often enough to get us through the winter for a fuel
> source. I think the shop was 60' x 100’ with a 30’ ceiling and was pretty
> much an open space.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:11 AM, Clay via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  There are no facilities able to bother with waste oil from what I can
> tell.  There should be somebody who should, but the land area is too great
> and producers so spread out, there just ain’t a way to do it profitably.
> 
>  I took an old folks class last fall, and we did tours of waste
> processing/recycling facilities.  For something like vehicle fluids, the
> stuff would need to be gathered, then would end up in 55 gallon barrels and
> shipped back down to Tacoma, WA.  Too expensive to send glass down south,
> so it either just goes in the trash and landfill, or the really eco
> friendly will self sort and take it to a processing center where the glass
> ends up hauled to a place that will crush it and use it for bedding sewer
> pipes.  Fluids would be worse.
> 
>  It would not surprise me if some of the repair/service places will
> have it used in waste oil burners for shop heating.  I expect it is more
> likely to just get put in empty jugs and tossed in the garbage.  From the
> large oil spots leaving a trail behind last weeks garbage truck, somebody
> got rid of a few gallons that way.
> 
>  There is a landfill that is supposed to have only garbage left, and a
> person would be able to segregate his toxic waste from normal waste.  There
> is a garbage Co-gen facility that provides around 35% of the power for
> JBER.  Pretty sure oil ends up there as fuel.
> 
>  All the machinery/snow machines/dead cars/scrap in Alaska usually
> ends up just where it died.  Fluids and all.  Too expensive to actually
> deal with it.  Maybe at some far future it will be reprocessed tectonically
> and mined by aliens.
> 
> 
> 
>  clay
> 
>  I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
> 
> 
> 
> > On Apr 15, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I just got a promotional email from Auto Zone about the things
> they’re doing to assist customers and continue business operations, one of
> which is accepting waste oil. Something that sort of jumped out at me in
> the fine print was a statement that they don’t recycle oil in Alaska.
> >
> > Any idea why, Clay?
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Question For Jaime

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Lane Keeping Assist - uses cameras.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=mercedes+lane+keeping+assist&&view=detail&mid=D1F9F7D041BC36B28DEBD1F9F7D041BC36B28DEB&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dmercedes%2520lane%2520keeping%2520assist%26qs%3Dn%26form%3DQBVR%26sp%3D-1%26pq%3Dmercedes%2520lane%2520keeping%2520assist%26sc%3D6-28%26sk%3D%26cvid%3DECDAB62399FC41E68F33F1F440417151

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> On 16/04/2020 11:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> > Randy writes:
> >
> >> Will it be something very similar to the back up >sensors in the bumper
> that beep faster as my truck >gets closer to an object?
> > RB
> >
> > I thought that too,  however I see no evidence of them on the sides of
> the car.
> >
> > Rick
>
>
> Maybe in the mirrors?
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] RAT ROD!!!! 1959 Mercedes-Benz ponton 190d,$798

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That would be a great car with an OM602 turbo, or 603 if it will fit!

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:42 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Oh man I got the itch!!!
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2845929375475303
>
> 1959 Mercedes-Benz ponton 190d
> $798
> Vehicles 
> Listed a day ago in Dahlonega, GA
> 
>
>
>   About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 300 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Black
>
>
>   Seller's description…
>
> 1959 Mercedes Ponton 190d. Engine was removed. Engine needs resleeved,
> seats and interior needs redone: I have the engine and parts that was
> disassembled. Body is in good shape. Great classic car. This car needs
> restored
>
>
> --
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Re: [MBZ] 190D 5spd

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A Curtmobile
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On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:10 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> *Silver with a maroon interior - the kiss of death in the early 90s. That
> combination was a killer.*
>
> Meaning what?  I find it a lot more attractive than beige/beige or
> white/palomino.  And when the car was new even more so.
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Wow! Silver with a maroon interior - the kiss of death in the early 90s.
> > That combination was a killer.
> >
> > Probably worth $1200 for the parts, especially the transmission.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/219292062763389
> > >
> > > 1984 Mercedes-Benz 190 d
> > > $1,200
> > > Vehicles <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/106181149412603/vehicles/
> > >
> > > Listed 3 weeks ago in FL <
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/104074486296063/>
> > >
> > >
> > > About This Vehicle…
> > >
> > > Driven 180,000 miles
> > > Manual transmission
> > > Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Red
> > > Fuel type: Diesel
> > > Good condition  >
> > >
> > >
> > > Seller's description…
> > >
> > > 190 D diesel five-speed runs I have title
> > >
> > > --
> > > --FT
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 190D 5spd

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Tastes change.  Now Mercedes has a different shade of silver paint every
year.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:18 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> When I was working the Mannheim (PA) auction for a buddy who is a high
> line dealer I was actively searching for a nice 300E. At the time the
> combination of a maroon interior and silver exterior was not attractive to
> the luxury car buying public and these were cars the dealers would avoid at
> auction or pay a much lower price for.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Silver with a maroon interior - the kiss of death in the early 90s. That
> combination was a killer.
> >
> > Meaning what?  I find it a lot more attractive than beige/beige or
> white/palomino.  And when the car was new even more so.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > Wow! Silver with a maroon interior - the kiss of death in the early 90s.
> That combination was a killer.
> >
> > Probably worth $1200 for the parts, especially the transmission.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/219292062763389 <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/219292062763389>
> > >
> > > 1984 Mercedes-Benz 190 d
> > > $1,200
> > > Vehicles <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/106181149412603/vehicles/ <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/106181149412603/vehicles/>>
> > > Listed 3 weeks ago in FL <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/104074486296063/ <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/104074486296063/>>
> > >
> > >
> > > About This Vehicle…
> > >
> > > Driven 180,000 miles
> > > Manual transmission
> > > Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Red
> > > Fuel type: Diesel
> > > Good condition  >
> > >
> > >
> > > Seller's description…
> > >
> > > 190 D diesel five-speed runs I have title
> > >
> > > --
> > > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Question For Jaime

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On 16/04/2020 11:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Randy writes:


Will it be something very similar to the back up >sensors in the bumper that beep 
faster as my truck >gets closer to an object?

RB

I thought that too,  however I see no evidence of them on the sides of the car.

Rick



Maybe in the mirrors?

RB


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Re: [MBZ] 2007 Mercedes touring sedan - $7450 (Pawleys Island)

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Wilton's son drove an R class up to DC a few years back to take possession
of a W123 grille, but I don't recall which exact model.  It was hugely
roomy inside and looked like a fun car to drive.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:15 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> "Touring Sedan" because people who buy a new MB do not want to call it a
> "mini van" even though that is what it is.
>
> RB
>
> On 16/04/2020 8:55 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > Looks nice, crack price. R 500 4 matic Mercedes touring sedan
> >
> >
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/pawleys-island-2007-mercedes-touring/7108908660.html
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Should I go to Atlanta and get this?

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It's a gamble.  If the transmission were a simple fix how much could you
flip it for?

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:13 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> I'll take the trailer behind the truck
>
> --FT
>
> On 4/16/20 12:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > How much to transport it back home?
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:28 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >> Max Dillon
> >> Charleston SC
> >>
> >>
> >> Apr 15, 2020 11:03:36 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >>> :
> >>> I communicated with the guy, he sent me vids of it starting and running
> >> and all, seems decent. Unsure what the tranny issue is, I wonder if it
> is
> >> something simple or will need a new tranny. He says "Making noise
> >> (rattling)" I've got this E500 sitting here with a collapsed suspension
> and
> >> no title, would be a good donor. I bet $1k would get it, he was asking
> more
> >> than this last week
> >>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/152065039561867
> >>>
> >>> 2005 benz e-class
> >>> $1,400
> >>> Vehicles <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/106181149412603/vehicles/
> >>>
> >>> Listed 22 hours ago in Atlanta, GA <
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/108125329214833/>
> >>>
> >>> About This Vehicle…
> >>>
> >>> Automatic transmission
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Seller's description…
> >>>
> >>> V8 runs good needs A Transmission, Clean Title any questions feel free
> >> to ask!
> >>> --
> >>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Question For Jaime

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Randy writes:

>Will it be something very similar to the back up >sensors in the bumper that 
>beep faster as my truck >gets closer to an object?

RB

I thought that too,  however I see no evidence of them on the sides of the car.

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Re: [MBZ] 190D 5spd

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When I was working the Mannheim (PA) auction for a buddy who is a high line 
dealer I was actively searching for a nice 300E. At the time the combination of 
a maroon interior and silver exterior was not attractive to the luxury car 
buying public and these were cars the dealers would avoid at auction or pay a 
much lower price for.

-D

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Silver with a maroon interior - the kiss of death in the early 90s. That 
> combination was a killer.
> 
> Meaning what?  I find it a lot more attractive than beige/beige or 
> white/palomino.  And when the car was new even more so.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Wow! Silver with a maroon interior - the kiss of death in the early 90s. That 
> combination was a killer.
> 
> Probably worth $1200 for the parts, especially the transmission.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/219292062763389 
> > 
> > 
> > 1984 Mercedes-Benz 190 d
> > $1,200
> > Vehicles  > >
> > Listed 3 weeks ago in FL 
> >  > >
> > 
> > 
> > About This Vehicle…
> > 
> > Driven 180,000 miles
> > Manual transmission
> > Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Red
> > Fuel type: Diesel
> > Good condition  > >
> > 
> > 
> > Seller's description…
> > 
> > 190 D diesel five-speed runs I have title
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

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Anyone know if used synthetic oil burns the same as non-synthetic in a 
waste oil heater?


RB

On 16/04/2020 11:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I don’t recall, but this one was very clean burning.

This is the place that makes them:

https://www.cleanburn.com/clean-burn-products/waste-oil-furnaces/ 


-D


On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I remember old waste oil heaters, got a lot of smoke out of them.  I wonder 
what kind of filters and nozzles they used in those things

--FT

On 4/16/20 7:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Makes sense.

I would think a lot of people would use waste oil for heating. In the generator 
service business I used to be in we had an oil furnace in the shop that was 
designed to burn waste motor oil, and our annual collection of waste oil was 
often enough to get us through the winter for a fuel source. I think the shop 
was 60' x 100’ with a 30’ ceiling and was pretty much an open space.

-D


On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:11 AM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:

There are no facilities able to bother with waste oil from what I can tell.  
There should be somebody who should, but the land area is too great and 
producers so spread out, there just ain’t a way to do it profitably.

I took an old folks class last fall, and we did tours of waste 
processing/recycling facilities.  For something like vehicle fluids, the stuff 
would need to be gathered, then would end up in 55 gallon barrels and shipped 
back down to Tacoma, WA.  Too expensive to send glass down south, so it either 
just goes in the trash and landfill, or the really eco friendly will self sort 
and take it to a processing center where the glass ends up hauled to a place 
that will crush it and use it for bedding sewer pipes.  Fluids would be worse.

It would not surprise me if some of the repair/service places will have it used 
in waste oil burners for shop heating.  I expect it is more likely to just get 
put in empty jugs and tossed in the garbage.  From the large oil spots leaving 
a trail behind last weeks garbage truck, somebody got rid of a few gallons that 
way.

There is a landfill that is supposed to have only garbage left, and a person 
would be able to segregate his toxic waste from normal waste.  There is a 
garbage Co-gen facility that provides around 35% of the power for JBER.  Pretty 
sure oil ends up there as fuel.

All the machinery/snow machines/dead cars/scrap in Alaska usually ends up just 
where it died.  Fluids and all.  Too expensive to actually deal with it.  Maybe 
at some far future it will be reprocessed tectonically and mined by aliens.



clay

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On Apr 15, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

I just got a promotional email from Auto Zone about the things they’re doing to 
assist customers and continue business operations, one of which is accepting 
waste oil. Something that sort of jumped out at me in the fine print was a 
statement that they don’t recycle oil in Alaska.

Any idea why, Clay?

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Re: [MBZ] 2007 Mercedes touring sedan - $7450 (Pawleys Island)

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

"Touring Sedan" because people who buy a new MB do not want to call it a 
"mini van" even though that is what it is.


RB

On 16/04/2020 8:55 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Looks nice, crack price. R 500 4 matic Mercedes touring sedan

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/pawleys-island-2007-mercedes-touring/7108908660.html 






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Re: [MBZ] Jalopnik / BaT

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When I was in high school the local traffic/parking cop called Bud 
Bickle drove one.  We had a discussion about him the other day on this 
FB group, someone said they sold off those trikes (with a big trunk 
thing in the back) for a coupla hundred dollars at a police auction 
years ago


==FT

On 4/16/20 12:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

It was a foot clutch, hand shift. Very old school Harley. Being a 3
wheeler, very manageable...
Unlike the 2 wheel version, it could even be ridden while intoxicated... so
I have been told... ;))
[Of course, intoxication never happened at the Frat house.]

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 3:26 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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Grat,

Was it one with the big shifter with the chrome ball on it, or a foot
shift? I always thought the hand shift option was cool.

-D


On Apr 15, 2020, at 7:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 

wrote:

Many, many years ago, I owned a Harley 3 wheel vehicle that was purpose
built and sold as a meter maid vehicle. It had the Harley 45 Cubic inch
flat head engine and was equipped with a reverse gear which was very
convenient. The box on the back was about waist high and made to hold

"cop

stuff". I found it was exactly the right size to make beer runs, with ice
for the Frat house.. so it got regular use.. ;)

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 3:22 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Cushman Meter Maid?
Fred

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 5:36 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I think the things the cops/meter maids drove were smaller, or

narrower.

That thing looks like it was meant to haul stuff like a JD “Gator”.

-D


On Apr 15, 2020, at 5:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <

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I saw that thing and was quite puzzled by it. You would need a

trailer,

or at least a pickup truck, and it is somewhat unusual, so maybe it

fits

the mold.

I remember cops used to drive little things like that for parking

violators, and the mailmen had them.

--FT

On 4/15/20 5:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

https://jalopnik.com/you-know-the-economy-is-bad-when-high-roller-car-auctio-1842884367

<


https://jalopnik.com/you-know-the-economy-is-bad-when-high-roller-car-auctio-1842884367

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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I don’t recall, but this one was very clean burning.

This is the place that makes them:

https://www.cleanburn.com/clean-burn-products/waste-oil-furnaces/ 


-D

> On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I remember old waste oil heaters, got a lot of smoke out of them.  I wonder 
> what kind of filters and nozzles they used in those things
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 4/16/20 7:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Makes sense.
>> 
>> I would think a lot of people would use waste oil for heating. In the 
>> generator service business I used to be in we had an oil furnace in the shop 
>> that was designed to burn waste motor oil, and our annual collection of 
>> waste oil was often enough to get us through the winter for a fuel source. I 
>> think the shop was 60' x 100’ with a 30’ ceiling and was pretty much an open 
>> space.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:11 AM, Clay via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are no facilities able to bother with waste oil from what I can tell. 
>>>  There should be somebody who should, but the land area is too great and 
>>> producers so spread out, there just ain’t a way to do it profitably.
>>> 
>>> I took an old folks class last fall, and we did tours of waste 
>>> processing/recycling facilities.  For something like vehicle fluids, the 
>>> stuff would need to be gathered, then would end up in 55 gallon barrels and 
>>> shipped back down to Tacoma, WA.  Too expensive to send glass down south, 
>>> so it either just goes in the trash and landfill, or the really eco 
>>> friendly will self sort and take it to a processing center where the glass 
>>> ends up hauled to a place that will crush it and use it for bedding sewer 
>>> pipes.  Fluids would be worse.
>>> 
>>> It would not surprise me if some of the repair/service places will have it 
>>> used in waste oil burners for shop heating.  I expect it is more likely to 
>>> just get put in empty jugs and tossed in the garbage.  From the large oil 
>>> spots leaving a trail behind last weeks garbage truck, somebody got rid of 
>>> a few gallons that way.
>>> 
>>> There is a landfill that is supposed to have only garbage left, and a 
>>> person would be able to segregate his toxic waste from normal waste.  There 
>>> is a garbage Co-gen facility that provides around 35% of the power for 
>>> JBER.  Pretty sure oil ends up there as fuel.
>>> 
>>> All the machinery/snow machines/dead cars/scrap in Alaska usually ends up 
>>> just where it died.  Fluids and all.  Too expensive to actually deal with 
>>> it.  Maybe at some far future it will be reprocessed tectonically and mined 
>>> by aliens.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 15, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I just got a promotional email from Auto Zone about the things they’re 
 doing to assist customers and continue business operations, one of which 
 is accepting waste oil. Something that sort of jumped out at me in the 
 fine print was a statement that they don’t recycle oil in Alaska.
 
 Any idea why, Clay?
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes-Benz 220/8 NA,$1,500

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Getting a D I V O R C E so he probably just wants to bugger off

--FT

On 4/16/20 12:07 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 16/04/2020 10:19 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:


This car is priced to the dollar what I have in it so I can just break
even & move on.

Yeah, that's not really how it works.

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Re: [MBZ] Question For Jaime

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It's a lane change warning system on the newer models.

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> Will it be something very similar to the back up sensors in the bumper
> that beep faster as my truck gets closer to an object?
>
> RB
>
> On 16/04/2020 9:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > I say microwave (radar) because I used to work with automatic door
> controls way, way back in the day, and there were two kinds of sensing they
> used for opening and safety - infrared, which wasn’t terribly accurate and
> easily fooled, and microwave, which was far better at picking out objects
> in a given space and providing fairly accurate feedback on their position
> and movement.
> >
> > This is in lieu of the big rubber mats, of course. Those things were
> stupid expensive and failed with some frequency.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> Theres lots of ways you could do it but as Dan suggests its probably
> some kind of radar...
> >> I feel like the lights to tell people when a car is next to them is
> just protecting the idiots and allowing them to be lousy drivers.
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >> On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 10:16:14 AM EDT, Rick Knoble via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>
> >> Or Dan or whoever. How does the side collision prevention feature found
> on some (most?) modern cars work? Sometimes when I pass cars I can see the
> amber indicator on the outside mirror light up.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Should I go to Atlanta and get this?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I'll take the trailer behind the truck

--FT

On 4/16/20 12:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

How much to transport it back home?

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:28 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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Yes.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Apr 15, 2020 11:03:36 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
:
I communicated with the guy, he sent me vids of it starting and running

and all, seems decent. Unsure what the tranny issue is, I wonder if it is
something simple or will need a new tranny. He says "Making noise
(rattling)" I've got this E500 sitting here with a collapsed suspension and
no title, would be a good donor. I bet $1k would get it, he was asking more
than this last week

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/152065039561867

2005 benz e-class
$1,400
Vehicles 


About This Vehicle…

Automatic transmission


Seller's description…

V8 runs good needs A Transmission, Clean Title any questions feel free

to ask!

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Re: [MBZ] Question For Jaime

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah like little ultrasonic sensors you can buy for robots to avoid 
obstacles


--FT

On 4/16/20 12:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
Will it be something very similar to the back up sensors in the bumper 
that beep faster as my truck gets closer to an object?


RB

On 16/04/2020 9:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
I say microwave (radar) because I used to work with automatic door 
controls way, way back in the day, and there were two kinds of 
sensing they used for opening and safety - infrared, which wasn’t 
terribly accurate and easily fooled, and microwave, which was far 
better at picking out objects in a given space and providing fairly 
accurate feedback on their position and movement.


This is in lieu of the big rubber mats, of course. Those things were 
stupid expensive and failed with some frequency.


-D

On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Theres lots of ways you could do it but as Dan suggests its probably 
some kind of radar...
I feel like the lights to tell people when a car is next to them is 
just protecting the idiots and allowing them to be lousy drivers.


-Curt

    On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 10:16:14 AM EDT, Rick Knoble via 
Mercedes  wrote:


Or Dan or whoever. How does the side collision prevention feature 
found on some (most?) modern cars work? Sometimes when I pass cars I 
can see the amber indicator on the outside mirror light up.


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 190D 5spd

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*Silver with a maroon interior - the kiss of death in the early 90s. That
combination was a killer.*

Meaning what?  I find it a lot more attractive than beige/beige or
white/palomino.  And when the car was new even more so.

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> Wow! Silver with a maroon interior - the kiss of death in the early 90s.
> That combination was a killer.
>
> Probably worth $1200 for the parts, especially the transmission.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/219292062763389
> >
> > 1984 Mercedes-Benz 190 d
> > $1,200
> > Vehicles  >
> > Listed 3 weeks ago in FL <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/104074486296063/>
> >
> >
> > About This Vehicle…
> >
> > Driven 180,000 miles
> > Manual transmission
> > Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Red
> > Fuel type: Diesel
> > Good condition 
> >
> >
> > Seller's description…
> >
> > 190 D diesel five-speed runs I have title
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Jalopnik / BaT

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It was a foot clutch, hand shift. Very old school Harley. Being a 3
wheeler, very manageable...
Unlike the 2 wheel version, it could even be ridden while intoxicated... so
I have been told... ;))
[Of course, intoxication never happened at the Frat house.]

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 3:26 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Grat,
>
> Was it one with the big shifter with the chrome ball on it, or a foot
> shift? I always thought the hand shift option was cool.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 15, 2020, at 7:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Many, many years ago, I owned a Harley 3 wheel vehicle that was purpose
> > built and sold as a meter maid vehicle. It had the Harley 45 Cubic inch
> > flat head engine and was equipped with a reverse gear which was very
> > convenient. The box on the back was about waist high and made to hold
> "cop
> > stuff". I found it was exactly the right size to make beer runs, with ice
> > for the Frat house.. so it got regular use.. ;)
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 3:22 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Cushman Meter Maid?
> >> Fred
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 5:36 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think the things the cops/meter maids drove were smaller, or
> narrower.
> >>> That thing looks like it was meant to haul stuff like a JD “Gator”.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On Apr 15, 2020, at 5:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  I saw that thing and was quite puzzled by it. You would need a
> trailer,
> >>> or at least a pickup truck, and it is somewhat unusual, so maybe it
> fits
> >>> the mold.
> 
>  I remember cops used to drive little things like that for parking
> >>> violators, and the mailmen had them.
> 
>  --FT
> 
>  On 4/15/20 5:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>
> https://jalopnik.com/you-know-the-economy-is-bad-when-high-roller-car-auctio-1842884367
> >>> <
> >>>
> >>
> https://jalopnik.com/you-know-the-economy-is-bad-when-high-roller-car-auctio-1842884367
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes-Benz 220/8 NA,$1,500

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On 16/04/2020 10:19 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:


This car is priced to the dollar what I have in it so I can just break
even & move on.

Yeah, that's not really how it works.

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Re: [MBZ] Should I go to Atlanta and get this?

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How much to transport it back home?

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 10:28 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Yes.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
>
> Apr 15, 2020 11:03:36 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  >:
>
> > I communicated with the guy, he sent me vids of it starting and running
> and all, seems decent. Unsure what the tranny issue is, I wonder if it is
> something simple or will need a new tranny. He says "Making noise
> (rattling)" I've got this E500 sitting here with a collapsed suspension and
> no title, would be a good donor. I bet $1k would get it, he was asking more
> than this last week
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/152065039561867
> >
> > 2005 benz e-class
> > $1,400
> > Vehicles  >
> > Listed 22 hours ago in Atlanta, GA <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/108125329214833/>
> >
> >
> > About This Vehicle…
> >
> > Automatic transmission
> >
> >
> > Seller's description…
> >
> > V8 runs good needs A Transmission, Clean Title any questions feel free
> to ask!
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Re: [MBZ] Question For Jaime

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Will it be something very similar to the back up sensors in the bumper 
that beep faster as my truck gets closer to an object?


RB

On 16/04/2020 9:44 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I say microwave (radar) because I used to work with automatic door controls 
way, way back in the day, and there were two kinds of sensing they used for 
opening and safety - infrared, which wasn’t terribly accurate and easily 
fooled, and microwave, which was far better at picking out objects in a given 
space and providing fairly accurate feedback on their position and movement.

This is in lieu of the big rubber mats, of course. Those things were stupid 
expensive and failed with some frequency.

-D


On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
wrote:

Theres lots of ways you could do it but as Dan suggests its probably some kind 
of radar...
I feel like the lights to tell people when a car is next to them is just 
protecting the idiots and allowing them to be lousy drivers.

-Curt

On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 10:16:14 AM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Or Dan or whoever. How does the side collision prevention feature found on some 
(most?) modern cars work? Sometimes when I pass cars I can see the amber 
indicator on the outside mirror light up.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I have a yellow paint pen, but I'm not too sure how it would last on
> electrical tape ...

Or on the body of one of the plugs?  Probably mark both x1 and x10
if done that way.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] RAT ROD!!!! 1959 Mercedes-Benz ponton 190d,$798

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

There was one advertised here locally a few years back that looked 
pretty cool. I saved photos and will post them if I can locate them. 
Probably on my home computer so maybe tomorrow.


RB


On 16/04/2020 9:42 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Oh man I got the itch!!!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2845929375475303

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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I remember old waste oil heaters, got a lot of smoke out of them.  I 
wonder what kind of filters and nozzles they used in those things


--FT

On 4/16/20 7:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Makes sense.

I would think a lot of people would use waste oil for heating. In the generator 
service business I used to be in we had an oil furnace in the shop that was 
designed to burn waste motor oil, and our annual collection of waste oil was 
often enough to get us through the winter for a fuel source. I think the shop 
was 60' x 100’ with a 30’ ceiling and was pretty much an open space.

-D


On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:11 AM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:

There are no facilities able to bother with waste oil from what I can tell.  
There should be somebody who should, but the land area is too great and 
producers so spread out, there just ain’t a way to do it profitably.

I took an old folks class last fall, and we did tours of waste 
processing/recycling facilities.  For something like vehicle fluids, the stuff 
would need to be gathered, then would end up in 55 gallon barrels and shipped 
back down to Tacoma, WA.  Too expensive to send glass down south, so it either 
just goes in the trash and landfill, or the really eco friendly will self sort 
and take it to a processing center where the glass ends up hauled to a place 
that will crush it and use it for bedding sewer pipes.  Fluids would be worse.

It would not surprise me if some of the repair/service places will have it used 
in waste oil burners for shop heating.  I expect it is more likely to just get 
put in empty jugs and tossed in the garbage.  From the large oil spots leaving 
a trail behind last weeks garbage truck, somebody got rid of a few gallons that 
way.

There is a landfill that is supposed to have only garbage left, and a person 
would be able to segregate his toxic waste from normal waste.  There is a 
garbage Co-gen facility that provides around 35% of the power for JBER.  Pretty 
sure oil ends up there as fuel.

All the machinery/snow machines/dead cars/scrap in Alaska usually ends up just 
where it died.  Fluids and all.  Too expensive to actually deal with it.  Maybe 
at some far future it will be reprocessed tectonically and mined by aliens.



clay

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.




On Apr 15, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

I just got a promotional email from Auto Zone about the things they’re doing to 
assist customers and continue business operations, one of which is accepting 
waste oil. Something that sort of jumped out at me in the fine print was a 
statement that they don’t recycle oil in Alaska.

Any idea why, Clay?

-D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Blueberries

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Not sure what I’ll do with the rest, freeze or just eat them. Yum.

Or do both.  That's what I liked to do, when I had access to truly
fresh-picked.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Economics

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If politics could be kept out of it, as it had been up until now, you two, it 
was a decent conversation.

Yes, economic theory can be and often is politicized, but as others have shown 
here it can be discussed without engaging the political aspects. If you want to 
go down that road, yes, OkieTalk is the place for it.

-D


> On Apr 16, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think it belongs more on Okietalk, but I agree with you it's off the
> topic here.
> 
> I hope you're citing Salon as evidence that not everybody likes Sowell,
> not as evidence that Sowell is wrong. For many of us think Salon and Vice
> are as reliable as you'd think Infowars is.
> 
> Mitch.
> 
> On Thu, April 16, 2020 11:28 am, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Not everyone agrees with that assessment.  This belongs on Banned.
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.salon.com/2007/09/03/sowell/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Question for Clay

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Maybe cut it with heating oil.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:38 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Makes sense.
>
> I would think a lot of people would use waste oil for heating. In the
> generator service business I used to be in we had an oil furnace in the
> shop that was designed to burn waste motor oil, and our annual collection
> of waste oil was often enough to get us through the winter for a fuel
> source. I think the shop was 60' x 100’ with a 30’ ceiling and was pretty
> much an open space.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 16, 2020, at 12:11 AM, Clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > There are no facilities able to bother with waste oil from what I can
> tell.  There should be somebody who should, but the land area is too great
> and producers so spread out, there just ain’t a way to do it profitably.
> >
> > I took an old folks class last fall, and we did tours of waste
> processing/recycling facilities.  For something like vehicle fluids, the
> stuff would need to be gathered, then would end up in 55 gallon barrels and
> shipped back down to Tacoma, WA.  Too expensive to send glass down south,
> so it either just goes in the trash and landfill, or the really eco
> friendly will self sort and take it to a processing center where the glass
> ends up hauled to a place that will crush it and use it for bedding sewer
> pipes.  Fluids would be worse.
> >
> > It would not surprise me if some of the repair/service places will have
> it used in waste oil burners for shop heating.  I expect it is more likely
> to just get put in empty jugs and tossed in the garbage.  From the large
> oil spots leaving a trail behind last weeks garbage truck, somebody got rid
> of a few gallons that way.
> >
> > There is a landfill that is supposed to have only garbage left, and a
> person would be able to segregate his toxic waste from normal waste.  There
> is a garbage Co-gen facility that provides around 35% of the power for
> JBER.  Pretty sure oil ends up there as fuel.
> >
> > All the machinery/snow machines/dead cars/scrap in Alaska usually ends
> up just where it died.  Fluids and all.  Too expensive to actually deal
> with it.  Maybe at some far future it will be reprocessed tectonically and
> mined by aliens.
> >
> >
> >
> > clay
> >
> > I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 15, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I just got a promotional email from Auto Zone about the things they’re
> doing to assist customers and continue business operations, one of which is
> accepting waste oil. Something that sort of jumped out at me in the fine
> print was a statement that they don’t recycle oil in Alaska.
> >>
> >> Any idea why, Clay?
> >>
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Economics

[Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes]

I think it belongs more on Okietalk, but I agree with you it's off the
topic here.

I hope you're citing Salon as evidence that not everybody likes Sowell,
not as evidence that Sowell is wrong. For many of us think Salon and Vice
are as reliable as you'd think Infowars is.

Mitch.

On Thu, April 16, 2020 11:28 am, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Not everyone agrees with that assessment.  This belongs on Banned.
>
>
> https://www.salon.com/2007/09/03/sowell/


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Re: [MBZ] Economics

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not everyone agrees with that assessment.  This belongs on Banned.

https://www.salon.com/2007/09/03/sowell/

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:21 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sowell is great on economics and many other topics.  On the other hand,
> some so-called experts, like Krugman, are always wrong.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> > Knoble via Mercedes
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 1:39 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Cc: Rick Knoble 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Economics
> >
> > Thomas Sowell would be my choice for the explanation of economics.
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Economics-Fifth-Common-
> > Economy/dp/B00PKQMFT8/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Thomas+s
> > owell&qid=1586972019&sr=8-2
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/Classical-Economics-Thomas-
> > Sowell/dp/0300126069/ref=mp_s_a_1_68?dchild=1&keywords=Thomas+sow
> > ell&qid=1586972179&sr=8-68
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/Marxism-Philosophy-and-
> > Economics/dp/B0099AE5X0/ref=mp_s_a_1_21?dchild=1&keywords=Thomas+
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Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes-Benz 220/8 NA,$1,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:

> This car is priced to the dollar what I have in it so I can just break
> even & move on.

Yeah, that's not really how it works.

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Re: [MBZ] This might be worth checking out

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I sent the guy a message suggesting that, will see if he responds

--FT

On 4/16/20 10:58 AM, Dwight Giles wrote:

Prolly so if E320 or maybe cam sensor.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 10:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


I'm wondering if this is a crank position sensor issue.  Should
buy one,
offer $600, install the CPS and drive it home

--FT

On 4/13/20 11:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Sport designates nothing but cosmetic stuff. No performance
upgrades.
>
> -D
>
>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Not sure what's up with the headlights but other than the clear
coat it looks fairly nice.  Put the fancy computer on it and see
whussup.  What does "Sport" designate?
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/677992746282064
>>
>> 2002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class
>> $1,200
>> Vehicles

>> Listed 14 hours ago in Anderson, SC

>>
>>
>> About This Vehicle…
>>
>> Driven 177,503 miles
>> Automatic transmission
>> Exterior color: Grey
>>
>>
>> Seller's description…
>>
>> 2002 Mercedes Benz e320 has only 177k the car starts and shut
down right away dont know what's wrong with it maybe some sensor
selling as is have clean title in hand asking $1,200obo
>>
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[MBZ] 1973 Mercedes-Benz 220/8 NA,$1,500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Probably gone by now but this would be an interesting deal

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/493987487899401

1973 Mercedes-Benz 220/8 NA
$1,500
Vehicles 
Listed 16 weeks ago in Johnson City, TN 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 60,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Grey · Interior color: Tan
Fuel type: Gasoline
Fair condition 


 Seller's description…

1973 Mercedes Benz 220/8 W115 Old Timer Gasoline 2.2L Bulletproof 4 
cylinder This would make an excellent father & son project for an 
economical first classic car!!! I restore classic Mercedes & got this 
car because it was headed to the crusher & I wanted more experience 
solving W114 W115 W108 W109 specific problems. It’s had a HUGE amount of 
troubleshooting & labor put into it. I got exactly what I wanted out of 
it, knowledge I can apply to repairing other classic Mercedes. My plan 
was to fix it up nice for a profitable resale but sometimes life throws 
you a curve ball. I’m getting divorced & selling everything off as-is. 
This car is priced to the dollar what I have in it so I can just break 
even & move on. I know what it’s worth. The price is firm! First to 
bring cash with exact change! Don’t want to swap unless you’ve got an RV 
to trade for this & a Corvette. THE GOOD Very solid body & frame that’s 
not rusted out, getting harder to find these with good bones. Wheels 
restored & painted New tires with period look white wall flappers 0 
miles Complete brake system rebuilt Radiator repaired & coolant system 
reconditioned (cant get these anymore) Gas tank reconditioned with 
electrolysis, clean like new inside. (can’t get these either) Electrical 
system troubleshooting & repair. Starter restored Transmission engages 
in forward & reverse, as it should. Interior has seat covers making it 
clean & presentable but nothing fancy. Starts easy, idols smooth, 
doesn't smoke. Fresh synthetic oil & filter. These engines are called 
Bulletproof for a reason. You change the oil & they will last forever! A 
LOT of work has gone into this car to solve major problems that would 
total other cars like it 10 times over & you don’t have to deal with 
them because the hard stuff is already done. I have videos of it running 
& lots of pictures of what’s been done. No mystery of what your getting. 
THE BAD The (more desirable) 32/36 carburetor has been rebuilt but it 
has a stuck internal ball valve. It needs to go to a shop for a hot tank 
cleaning to get it unstuck. Carb cleaner just wont do it. This is the 1 
thing keeping it from being a driver. Idols smooth but bogs under a 
load. It will rev up nice if you put your thumb on the butterfly but you 
cannot drive it home as-is. It’s VERY close to being a driver. The front 
windshield is cracked on the passenger side. The front & rear windshield 
needs a new seal, $100 2 piece seal kit. (All of them need new 
windshield seals at this age.) A windshield is $400 a whole parts car is 
$300. A set of 4 new locking handled suction cups is included to make 
this DIY install easier. There is no key. When I got it, the ignition 
switch had been cut out (key cylinder failure is common) & it was a rats 
nest of wires. This has been sorted out at great troubleshooting labor. 
It currently has a fully functional & 100% fully reversible racing push 
button start system installed. It needs a cylinder specifically with the 
harness plug included. Will be easy to install, black wire to black wire 
ect. Complicated part is done. Must get the gas version the diesel 
version is different & won’t work. You can get a 6 piece lock & key set 
for $400, again a whole parts car is $300. The 2 rear quarter panels 
have had bodywork done at some point in the past & are primer gray. A 
little touch up attention & they would be ready to paint. There is no 
title. This is NOT a big deal with a car 47 years old! There are many 
ways to get around this & you do what you want but the way I was going 
to do it was to get Vermont plates by mail as this seemed to be the 
cheapest & easiest way to go about it. VTs no title state attitude on 
older cars is pretty much “Yes, we’ll take your money. Fill this out. 
Here you go.” it’s straightforward & easy. Feel free to Google more info 
on that. I’ve already done preliminary research on the cars history & 
it’s 100% not stolen, it just hasn’t been registered for a long time. No 
red flags or I wouldn’t have put so much time & money in it. None of 
these issues are insurmountable. None of them are going to cost a 
fortune to fix, especially if you can work on it a little yourself. It’s 
very close to being a driver, just as it is. Car is located in Johnson 
City TN close to the JC / Elizabethton exit & close to ETSU. Happy to 
help you load it or work with your tow truck operator, they know me, 
they bring 

Re: [MBZ] This might be worth checking out

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Prolly so if E320 or maybe cam sensor.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 10:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm wondering if this is a crank position sensor issue.  Should buy one,
> offer $600, install the CPS and drive it home
>
> --FT
>
> On 4/13/20 11:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Sport designates nothing but cosmetic stuff. No performance upgrades.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Apr 13, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not sure what's up with the headlights but other than the clear coat it
> looks fairly nice.  Put the fancy computer on it and see whussup.  What
> does "Sport" designate?
> >>
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/677992746282064
> >>
> >> 2002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class
> >> $1,200
> >> Vehicles <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/106181149412603/vehicles/>
> >> Listed 14 hours ago in Anderson, SC <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/114350815242119/>
> >>
> >>
> >> About This Vehicle…
> >>
> >> Driven 177,503 miles
> >> Automatic transmission
> >> Exterior color: Grey
> >>
> >>
> >> Seller's description…
> >>
> >> 2002 Mercedes Benz e320 has only 177k the car starts and shut down
> right away dont know what's wrong with it maybe some sensor selling as is
> have clean title in hand asking $1,200obo
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] This might be worth checking out

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I'm wondering if this is a crank position sensor issue.  Should buy one, 
offer $600, install the CPS and drive it home


--FT

On 4/13/20 11:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Sport designates nothing but cosmetic stuff. No performance upgrades.

-D


On Apr 13, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Not sure what's up with the headlights but other than the clear coat it looks fairly 
nice.  Put the fancy computer on it and see whussup.  What does "Sport" 
designate?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/677992746282064

2002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class
$1,200
Vehicles 
Listed 14 hours ago in Anderson, SC 



About This Vehicle…

Driven 177,503 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Grey


Seller's description…

2002 Mercedes Benz e320 has only 177k the car starts and shut down right away 
dont know what's wrong with it maybe some sensor selling as is have clean title 
in hand asking $1,200obo

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