Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

I just wear a bandana.  Might or might not work, but at least I rock the
look.  :)

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] '65 DIESEL Land Rover

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes i had a,series III gas one. Spent a year changing electrics from Lucas
(prince of darkness)   to Bosch.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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>  Highly iconic and virtually indestructible.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Your freedom to not wear a mask or to be traced ends where my freedom not
to be infected by you begins. Like your freedom of expression ends where my
nose begins. We are all in this together, whether we like it or not. I
don't like to wear a mask anymore than anyone else, but I've taken to
wearing the N95 in stores as so few others are wearing any kind of mask.
The supply of three year old N95's is getting low however -

We'll get the vaccine (whether it works or not) that produces the highest
profit for the powers that be, and will probably be forced to purchase it.
Profit based medicine will be the death of us yet.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 5:08 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> I predict we will get rushed approval on a vaccine (Moderna most likely).
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] Real info about covid

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVe4osbt44U

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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

And then the crisis will be over, regardless of the efficacy (or
longevity) of the vaccine.

Question for Karl: Are people really getting re-infected within 3 months?
Is it because the disease mutated or because the body didn't feel like
keeping the antibodies for future usage? I'm thinking mutation, because
the latter just doesn't compute.

Do reinfections tend to be less of a problem than the initial infection,
since the body has already dealt with a related infection before?

Mitch.

On Wed, July 15, 2020 6:07 pm, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> I predict we will get rushed approval on a vaccine (Moderna most likely).


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Re: [MBZ] Real info about covid

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> OK wrote:

> So, how do you download youtube videos?

youtubedl   https://youtube-dl.org/

VideoDownload Heleper extension

Or look for other extensions.  There are quite a few.




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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I predict we will get rushed approval on a vaccine (Moderna most likely).

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 6:06 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Anything over 60% alcohol inactivates it pretty well.
>
> Rick there has never been a polio outbreak like the ones we are seeing with
> this virus, where 60 of 80 choir members get infected at a single practice,
> or a hundred korean aerobics people get it at dance class. It is definitely
> airborne. Polio is fecal-oral.
>
> Contact tracing is only feasible if we get the epidemic slowed down. Then
> it becomes essential for managing the disease in the future.
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 10:04 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I suspect this virus is spread like polio, not like the flu or colds.
> > Contact tracing may help, but I doubt it is the ultimate answer.
> >
> > Wash your hands. Really well. (hard to do properly at the beach, picnics,
> > and other outdoor events).
> >
> > BTW, alcohol (hand sanitizer) doesn't emulsify lipids (coronavirus is
> > lipid enveloped) particularly well, soap and water does. Wash your hands.
> > Really well.
> >
> > Rick
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Coronavirus wpidemics are not free either. You pay a cost either way.
Ideally people are smart enough to choose the lower cost item

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 12:04 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Karl wrote:
>
> > Not to beat a dead horse, but this is why testing and tracing is
> > so important.
>
> > ...sensible measures like masking... and tracing as many contacts
> > as possible
>
> Once the tracing Pandora is out of the box, how do we ever get it
> back in again?  When will this "crisis" be over?  At which point,
> what is the likelihood of some other "crisis" will appear that
> will require tracing everyone to continue?   How much is liberty
> cost is it worth?   Patrick Henry has one view.  Not everyone
> believes keep life at any cost.  Liberty and freedom is not free!!
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Anything over 60% alcohol inactivates it pretty well.

Rick there has never been a polio outbreak like the ones we are seeing with
this virus, where 60 of 80 choir members get infected at a single practice,
or a hundred korean aerobics people get it at dance class. It is definitely
airborne. Polio is fecal-oral.

Contact tracing is only feasible if we get the epidemic slowed down. Then
it becomes essential for managing the disease in the future.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 10:04 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I suspect this virus is spread like polio, not like the flu or colds.
> Contact tracing may help, but I doubt it is the ultimate answer.
>
> Wash your hands. Really well. (hard to do properly at the beach, picnics,
> and other outdoor events).
>
> BTW, alcohol (hand sanitizer) doesn't emulsify lipids (coronavirus is
> lipid enveloped) particularly well, soap and water does. Wash your hands.
> Really well.
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

One reason why I ALWAYS eat in!

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 2:56 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> On Wed, July 15, 2020 1:49 pm, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > I would imagine not all restaurant workers are diligent about wearing
> > their masks 100 percent of the time.
>
> I doubt they're as good at washing their hands as you'd want them to be.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Heh. Thalidomide.

P.J. O’Rourke and his Porsche review. "Back seats big enough for Thalidomide 
babies”. How tasteless, but how PJ.

-D

> On Jul 15, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> My doc is honest.  He willingly admits when he gets duped by the mainstream 
> medical hoopla over medication and other claims that turn out to be 
> overstated or outright false.  We both remember Thalidomide and how easily 
> pat answers and early prognostication ends up junk.  The medicine as profit 
> center model is not popular in his practice.
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2020, at 5:43 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Not to beat a dead horse, but this is why testing and tracing is so 
>> important. If you don't know which citizens are "guilty", and who they have 
>> been associating with, it is hard to protect the "innocent" (uninfected) 
>> from disruptive containment policies. The only sensible path forward is a 
>> containment strategy focused on hard quantitative testing goals (e.g. 
>> increase testing until achieving below 5% positive results), sensible 
>> measures like masking (Clay's doc is probably wrong about them not working), 
>> and tracing as many contacts as possible and isolating them for two weeks 
>> (over 15 minutes at close range continuous without masking). Then everybody 
>> else can go about their business. Otherwise, expect more chaos.
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Clay via Mercedes]

Having worked in the food industry, most of the staff is not that diligent 
about hygiene.  Kitchen staff just loved it when the prissy type wait staff 
would squeal when they had to use the head.  Maybe if the line staff are 
getting $15/hr, same as the dishwasher (who was tasked with keeping the crapper 
clean) it changes.  But I am not holding my breath.   I do not use customer 
facilities when I eat out, since they are not kept sanitary either.  Last time 
I did, there were needles and blood on counter and floor as well as fecal 
staining.


clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On Jul 15, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would imagine not all restaurant workers are diligent about wearing their
> masks 100 percent of the time.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 1:36 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> There was early reporting on this out of Wuhan. I recall stories of
>> illegal/non-code sewage hookups or modifications in many apartments of
>> those who were sick.
>> 
>> If true, masks are useless. Studies showing that masks help prevent
>> spread may be conflating correlation with causation. Maybe people who
>> are diligent about wearing masks are also diligent in their personal
>> hygiene generally. Most of the mask studies I've seen are also in
>> health-care environments, which cooincidentally emphasize frequent
>> hand-washing and other hygiene practices.
>> 
>> We're seeing a spike in restaurant worker infections here, and they
>> all wear masks since the reopening started.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> 
>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> I suspect this virus is spread like polio, not like the flu or colds.
>> Contact tracing may help, but I doubt it is the ultimate answer.
>>> 
>>> Wash your hands. Really well. (hard to do properly at the beach,
>> picnics, and other outdoor events).
>>> 
>>> BTW, alcohol (hand sanitizer) doesn't emulsify lipids (coronavirus is
>> lipid enveloped) particularly well, soap and water does. Wash your hands.
>> Really well.
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Clay via Mercedes]

My doc is honest.  He willingly admits when he gets duped by the mainstream 
medical hoopla over medication and other claims that turn out to be overstated 
or outright false.  We both remember Thalidomide and how easily pat answers and 
early prognostication ends up junk.  The medicine as profit center model is not 
popular in his practice.


clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On Jul 15, 2020, at 5:43 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not to beat a dead horse, but this is why testing and tracing is so 
> important. If you don't know which citizens are "guilty", and who they have 
> been associating with, it is hard to protect the "innocent" (uninfected) from 
> disruptive containment policies. The only sensible path forward is a 
> containment strategy focused on hard quantitative testing goals (e.g. 
> increase testing until achieving below 5% positive results), sensible 
> measures like masking (Clay's doc is probably wrong about them not working), 
> and tracing as many contacts as possible and isolating them for two weeks 
> (over 15 minutes at close range continuous without masking). Then everybody 
> else can go about their business. Otherwise, expect more chaos.

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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 13:35:29 -0400
Allan Streib via Mercedes  wrote:

> There was early reporting on this out of Wuhan. I recall stories of
> illegal/non-code sewage hookups or modifications in many apartments of
> those who were sick.
> 
> If true, masks are useless. Studies showing that masks help prevent
> spread may be conflating correlation with causation. Maybe people who
> are diligent about wearing masks are also diligent in their personal
> hygiene generally. Most of the mask studies I've seen are also in
> health-care environments, which cooincidentally emphasize frequent
> hand-washing and other hygiene practices.
> 
> We're seeing a spike in restaurant worker infections here, and they
> all wear masks since the reopening started.
> 
> Allan

Cloth masks aren’t the same as surgical masks or N95 respirator masks, which 
are used by medical workers at high risk for being exposed to the coronavirus. 
Cloth masks may not prevent you from inhaling any particles that carry the 
coronavirus. But that doesn’t mean it’s not worth wearing one.

Aaron Hamilton, MD, sets the record straight on some common misunderstandings 
about masks.
Myth #1: Wearing a cloth mask is no use.

Wearing a homemade cloth face mask is an easy way you can help protect others 
in your family and community.

The 2019 novel coronavirus is thought to mainly be spread through viral 
droplets that come out of people’s nose or mouth when they cough, sneeze or 
talk. Cloth masks act as a physical barrier to keep large droplets from spewing 
out into the air, where someone else could breathe them in and become infected.

Studies have demonstrated that cloth masks reduce the number of microorganisms 
that someone releases into the air. So the more people wear masks in an area, 
the fewer potential viral droplets go into the space, and the less risk that 
someone will be exposed to the virus.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/5-myths-about-coronavirus-and-face-masks-debunked/

My guess would be that restaurant workers wearing cloth masks catch Covid-19 
from customers.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Real info about covid

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Here's what I use:
https://www.4kdownload.com/products/product-videodownloader

Not hard to use.  Gives choice of available resolutions. Works for YouTube and 
Facebook and probably any other platform.

We live stream church services to Facebook using a Mevo.  Later, I download in 
high and low resolution (for folks with a slow connection) and post on our own 
site.
-

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So, how do you download youtube videos?



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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Karl wrote:

> Not to beat a dead horse, but this is why testing and tracing is
> so important.

> ...sensible measures like masking... and tracing as many contacts
> as possible 

Once the tracing Pandora is out of the box, how do we ever get it
back in again?  When will this "crisis" be over?  At which point,
what is the likelihood of some other "crisis" will appear that
will require tracing everyone to continue?   How much is liberty
cost is it worth?   Patrick Henry has one view.  Not everyone
believes keep life at any cost.  Liberty and freedom is not free!!

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Re: [MBZ] Real info about covid

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On Wed, July 15, 2020 1:56 pm, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> So, how do you download youtube videos?

For years, with Video Downloadhelper.
When a Firefox update broke it, I switched to Easy Youtube Video
Downloader Express, which has its own problems.

BTW, do you remember when Mercedes/Detroit Diesel went to Indy with Team
Penske?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ9uoNPhZ04


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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Wed, July 15, 2020 1:49 pm, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> I would imagine not all restaurant workers are diligent about wearing
> their masks 100 percent of the time.

I doubt they're as good at washing their hands as you'd want them to be.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice Rolls sells for under $10k

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Wed, July 15, 2020 1:12 pm, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Here's a classic Rolls that is slightly dearer.
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-3/

There was a MSU Econ prof who filed an age discrimination suit when they
forcibly retired him at the age of 70. He settled out of court for an
agreement to retire at 72 or 73, and apparently an undisclosed sum of
money. Before the lawsuit, you'd see him on campus in a Hawaiian shirt,
riding an English 3 speed bicycle. (not a bad way to stay in shape at that
age, commute on a bicycle) When he came back, the Brit bike was replaced
by a 1972 Silver Shadow. I figured the taxpayers bought him that car
outright, fortunately a '72 was fully depreciated by then.

I noticed a Brit car I'd never heard of before, a 2003 Scorpion. The
intent was apparently a modernized Morgan, but I wonder about the
execution. It must be really fun to drive if they've racked up 3000 miles
in only 17 years.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-grinnall-scorpion-iii/

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Re: [MBZ] Real info about covid

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>So, how do you download youtube videos?

https://ytmp3.cc/en13/

Download as mp4 for video, mp3 for audio.
Most talking head videos I download as audio,
so they can be listened to at 1.8x-2x speed on
an audiobook or podcast app.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Of course, innocent and not infected are two different things.
Our local Trump clone (governor) is now infected. Another one who refuses
masks.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 7:20 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hmmm, used to be that a citizen was considered to be innocent until proven
> guilty
> -
> Max (Give Me Liberty or Give Me Wuhan Red Death!)
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:49 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > You are presumed to be sick until proven otherwise, 14 days later.
> > "I don't want to go on the cart, I'm not dead yet!"
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 1:51 PM Craig via Mercedes  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:39:43 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Quarantine laws are still in the books in all states I think.  You
> can
> > > > be restricted to your home if you have an infectious disease by
> force.
> > > > Completely Constitutional.
> > >
> > > But here they are forcing visitors to stay home without knowing whether
> > > they have an infectious disease or not.
> > >
> > > Quarantine laws say the sick have to stay home. In this pandemic, the
> > > healthy are being forced to stay home.
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Real info about covid

[OK Don via Mercedes]

So, how do you download youtube videos?

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 7:11 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Any video over five minutes, I download and save it because I'd rather
> watch and navigate it in VLC than a Flash browser plugin. If there's any
> chance of it getting canceled, I don't delete it after I watch it.
>
> It's been a long time since I've watched that movie, I wonder if it's in
> the $2.97 bin at the giant store which shall not be named?
>
> On Wed, July 15, 2020 12:53 am, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Mitch, are you like the fireman or the hobo at the end of Fahrenheit
> > 451?  Saving all that is true in your private archive, ready to rebuild
> > after the coming collapse of society?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I would imagine not all restaurant workers are diligent about wearing their
masks 100 percent of the time.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 1:36 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There was early reporting on this out of Wuhan. I recall stories of
> illegal/non-code sewage hookups or modifications in many apartments of
> those who were sick.
>
> If true, masks are useless. Studies showing that masks help prevent
> spread may be conflating correlation with causation. Maybe people who
> are diligent about wearing masks are also diligent in their personal
> hygiene generally. Most of the mask studies I've seen are also in
> health-care environments, which cooincidentally emphasize frequent
> hand-washing and other hygiene practices.
>
> We're seeing a spike in restaurant worker infections here, and they
> all wear masks since the reopening started.
>
> Allan
>
>
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > I suspect this virus is spread like polio, not like the flu or colds.
> Contact tracing may help, but I doubt it is the ultimate answer.
> >
> > Wash your hands. Really well. (hard to do properly at the beach,
> picnics, and other outdoor events).
> >
> > BTW, alcohol (hand sanitizer) doesn't emulsify lipids (coronavirus is
> lipid enveloped) particularly well, soap and water does. Wash your hands.
> Really well.
> >
> > Rick
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Nissan

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

They had a short-lived partnership with Cummins.

https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/discontinued/titan-cummins-diesel-truck.html

Allan

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:

> I have a rental Nissan at the moment and notice the non functioning icon in 
> the Speedo. I guess they sell these in diesels in some places?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

There was early reporting on this out of Wuhan. I recall stories of
illegal/non-code sewage hookups or modifications in many apartments of
those who were sick.

If true, masks are useless. Studies showing that masks help prevent
spread may be conflating correlation with causation. Maybe people who
are diligent about wearing masks are also diligent in their personal
hygiene generally. Most of the mask studies I've seen are also in
health-care environments, which cooincidentally emphasize frequent
hand-washing and other hygiene practices.

We're seeing a spike in restaurant worker infections here, and they
all wear masks since the reopening started.

Allan


Rick Knoble via Mercedes  writes:

> I suspect this virus is spread like polio, not like the flu or colds. Contact 
> tracing may help, but I doubt it is the ultimate answer.
>
> Wash your hands. Really well. (hard to do properly at the beach, picnics, and 
> other outdoor events).
>
> BTW, alcohol (hand sanitizer) doesn't emulsify lipids (coronavirus is lipid 
> enveloped) particularly well, soap and water does. Wash your hands. Really 
> well.
>
> Rick
>

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Re: [MBZ] asking 5500 firm come correct or don't come at all

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This is a top 10 idjut listing.  Maybe top 5.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 10:20 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2685088174924624/
>
> 2007 Mercedes-Benz S-Class · S 550 4MATIC Sedan 4D
> $5,500
> Vehicles 
> Listed a week ago in Thomasville, NC
> 
>
>
> About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 154,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Beige
> 14.0 MPG city · 21.0 MPG highway · 16.0 MPG combined
>
>
> Typical Features…
>
>   *
> Leather Seats
>   *
> Moon Roof
>   *
> Navigation
>   *
> Alloy Wheels
>   *
>
>
> Seller's description…
>
> Owned this car for a long time now, drove it everyday for 2 years before
> i got hit in the back passenger side quarter panel, and car has sat for
> atleast 2 years after that but had no issues whatsoever since parked and
> was fully serviced no check engine lights or warnings before hand, needs
> a little extra sanding on the quarter panel, adjustment of the deck lid,
> tail lights, and rear bumper for perfect body lines, also need the
> interior trunk trimming put back in and could use a set of tires all the
> way around, think they've got some dry rott and hardened in the flat
> spots where it sat at for soo long. Would make a very nice car for some
> one I have paper work in hand for the car asking 5500 firm come correct
> or don't come at all, could possibly workout a trade or partial trade on
> either end just throw what ya got at me!
>
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[MBZ] Diesel Nissan

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have a rental Nissan at the moment and notice the non functioning icon in the 
Speedo. I guess they sell these in diesels in some places?



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[MBZ] '65 DIESEL Land Rover

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

 Highly iconic and virtually indestructible.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-land-rover-88-series-iia-4x4-7/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2020-07-15
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Re: [MBZ] Nice Rolls sells for under $10k

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Here's a classic Rolls that is slightly dearer.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-3/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2020-07-15


On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 1:06 PM Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> *They’ll be regretting it as soon as they have to do a brake job.*
> If I owned one I would do a lot of coasting.
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 7:35 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Basic maintenance is more like an opera than a song. They’ll be
>> regretting it as soon as they have to do a brake job.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> > On Jul 14, 2020, at 10:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Sold for a song?
>> >
>> >
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-rolls-royce-silver-spirit-4/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2020-07-14
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Re: [MBZ] Nice Rolls sells for under $10k

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

*They’ll be regretting it as soon as they have to do a brake job.*
If I owned one I would do a lot of coasting.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 7:35 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Basic maintenance is more like an opera than a song. They’ll be regretting
> it as soon as they have to do a brake job.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 14, 2020, at 10:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sold for a song?
> >
> >
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-rolls-royce-silver-spirit-4/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2020-07-14
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I suspect this virus is spread like polio, not like the flu or colds. Contact 
tracing may help, but I doubt it is the ultimate answer.

Wash your hands. Really well. (hard to do properly at the beach, picnics, and 
other outdoor events).

BTW, alcohol (hand sanitizer) doesn't emulsify lipids (coronavirus is lipid 
enveloped) particularly well, soap and water does. Wash your hands. Really well.

Rick

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[MBZ] asking 5500 firm come correct or don't come at all

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2685088174924624/

2007 Mercedes-Benz S-Class · S 550 4MATIC Sedan 4D
$5,500
Vehicles 
Listed a week ago in Thomasville, NC 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 154,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Beige
14.0 MPG city · 21.0 MPG highway · 16.0 MPG combined


   Typical Features…

 *
   Leather Seats
 *
   Moon Roof
 *
   Navigation
 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *


   Seller's description…

Owned this car for a long time now, drove it everyday for 2 years before 
i got hit in the back passenger side quarter panel, and car has sat for 
atleast 2 years after that but had no issues whatsoever since parked and 
was fully serviced no check engine lights or warnings before hand, needs 
a little extra sanding on the quarter panel, adjustment of the deck lid, 
tail lights, and rear bumper for perfect body lines, also need the 
interior trunk trimming put back in and could use a set of tires all the 
way around, think they've got some dry rott and hardened in the flat 
spots where it sat at for soo long. Would make a very nice car for some 
one I have paper work in hand for the car asking 5500 firm come correct 
or don't come at all, could possibly workout a trade or partial trade on 
either end just throw what ya got at me!


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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Karl, I've read several news articles that indicate that the virus has mutated 
and has weakened; although the number of cases is rising, those who are 
hospitalized are less severe and more likely to survive than before.  Does your 
experience match that?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jul 15, 2020 9:44:04 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes :

> Not to beat a dead horse, but this is why testing and tracing is so 
> important. If you don't know which citizens are "guilty", and who they have 
> been associating with, it is hard to protect the "innocent" (uninfected) from 
> disruptive containment policies. The only sensible path forward is a 
> containment strategy focused on hard quantitative testing goals (e.g. 
> increase testing until achieving below 5% positive results), sensible 
> measures like masking (Clay's doc is probably wrong about them not working), 
> and tracing as many contacts as possible and isolating them for two weeks 
> (over 15 minutes at close range continuous without masking). Then everybody 
> else can go about their business. Otherwise, expect more chaos.
> 
> On 7/15/2020 5:19 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Hmmm, used to be that a citizen was considered to be innocent until proven
>> guilty
>> -
>> Max (Give Me Liberty or Give Me Wuhan Red Death!)
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:49 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> You are presumed to be sick until proven otherwise, 14 days later.
>>> "I don't want to go on the cart, I'm not dead yet!"
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 1:51 PM Craig via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:39:43 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
> Quarantine laws are still in the books in all states I think.  You can
> be restricted to your home if you have an infectious disease by force.
> Completely Constitutional.
 But here they are forcing visitors to stay home without knowing whether
 they have an infectious disease or not.
 
 Quarantine laws say the sick have to stay home. In this pandemic, the
 healthy are being forced to stay home.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Not to beat a dead horse, but this is why testing and tracing is so 
important. If you don't know which citizens are "guilty", and who they 
have been associating with, it is hard to protect the "innocent" 
(uninfected) from disruptive containment policies. The only sensible 
path forward is a containment strategy focused on hard quantitative 
testing goals (e.g. increase testing until achieving below 5% positive 
results), sensible measures like masking (Clay's doc is probably wrong 
about them not working), and tracing as many contacts as possible and 
isolating them for two weeks (over 15 minutes at close range continuous 
without masking). Then everybody else can go about their business. 
Otherwise, expect more chaos.


On 7/15/2020 5:19 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Hmmm, used to be that a citizen was considered to be innocent until proven
guilty
-
Max (Give Me Liberty or Give Me Wuhan Red Death!)
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:49 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:


You are presumed to be sick until proven otherwise, 14 days later.
"I don't want to go on the cart, I'm not dead yet!"

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 1:51 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:39:43 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
 wrote:


Quarantine laws are still in the books in all states I think.  You can
be restricted to your home if you have an infectious disease by force.
Completely Constitutional.

But here they are forcing visitors to stay home without knowing whether
they have an infectious disease or not.

Quarantine laws say the sick have to stay home. In this pandemic, the
healthy are being forced to stay home.




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Re: [MBZ] Real info about covid

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Well, what did you think?

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> On Jul 14, 2020, at 11:59 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Finally got to watch it instead of being canceled out by the Twitty nannies.
> Thanks...
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 9:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> This one is still active.
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/WQB_nksm5Gc
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Hmmm, used to be that a citizen was considered to be innocent until proven
guilty
-
Max (Give Me Liberty or Give Me Wuhan Red Death!)
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:49 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> You are presumed to be sick until proven otherwise, 14 days later.
> "I don't want to go on the cart, I'm not dead yet!"
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 1:51 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 13:39:43 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Quarantine laws are still in the books in all states I think.  You can
> > > be restricted to your home if you have an infectious disease by force.
> > > Completely Constitutional.
> >
> > But here they are forcing visitors to stay home without knowing whether
> > they have an infectious disease or not.
> >
> > Quarantine laws say the sick have to stay home. In this pandemic, the
> > healthy are being forced to stay home.
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Real info about covid

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Any video over five minutes, I download and save it because I'd rather
watch and navigate it in VLC than a Flash browser plugin. If there's any
chance of it getting canceled, I don't delete it after I watch it.

It's been a long time since I've watched that movie, I wonder if it's in
the $2.97 bin at the giant store which shall not be named?

On Wed, July 15, 2020 12:53 am, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> Mitch, are you like the fireman or the hobo at the end of Fahrenheit
> 451?  Saving all that is true in your private archive, ready to rebuild
> after the coming collapse of society?



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Re: [MBZ] Nice Rolls sells for under $10k

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Basic maintenance is more like an opera than a song. They’ll be regretting it 
as soon as they have to do a brake job.

-D

> On Jul 14, 2020, at 10:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Sold for a song?
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-rolls-royce-silver-spirit-4/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2020-07-14
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Re: [MBZ] Real info about covid

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Mr. Mann wrote:

> Do we all enmass genuflect 3 times and deposit our life savings
> in the poor box by the door, or did someone save the file in a
> form that can be passed along?

archive.org to the rescue!

https://web.archive.org/web/20200706024417/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIGdv-TybUk


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