Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

2020-08-13 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Around here they are saying that false negatives are a thing, but false positives are almost zero. That's very convenient for the lockdown enthusiasts. Yet we have heard about the testing centers in Florida that reported 100% positive tests. Like so much about this situation, who knows what to bel

Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

2020-08-13 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Small cruise ship had to turn around because of false positives. Alaska is seeing a large number of inaccurate test results. Science is not up to the standards required to effectively handle the plague. https://www.ktoo.org/2020/08/12/uncruise-says-wilderness-adventurer-did-not-have-covid-19-o

Re: [MBZ] I found another leak

2020-08-13 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 16:38:52 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > > Buy and install a new radiator. That one is shot. > > I concur. The aluminum and plastic radiators are both cheaper and > lighter than their soldered brass predecessors. They also don't last > as long, and are non-repairabl

Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

2020-08-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
We have Brazilian cherry flooring that is so hard that glasses and plates shatter when dropped on it. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 6:26 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My parent's kitchen area is all vinyl that looks like tile. Visually its > amazing, looks just like ti

Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

2020-08-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The clips in your link threw me off, the original movie was black and white. I've got a copy of it somewhere. The original is not a musical, it did have a dentist scene though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAli9a8bbys -Curt On Thursday, August 13, 2020, 7:45:04 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Me

Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

2020-08-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> And I had no idea the 1986 version was a remake. > https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054033/ Sort of. The remake was a musical, the original was not. Jack Nicholson's first (small) movie role. The musical was first a stage show, sort of like the Rocky Horror

Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

2020-08-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Thu, August 13, 2020 7:29 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > I don't think I've ever seen the whole thing. Might have to fix that. I saw it, or most of it, 30 years ago but don't remember the dentist. And I had no idea the 1986 version was a remake. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054033/ _

Re: [MBZ] I found another leak

2020-08-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Buy and install a new radiator. That one is shot. I concur. The aluminum and plastic radiators are both cheaper and lighter than their soldered brass predecessors. They also don't last as long, and are non-repairable. The leaks will get worse, rapidly. -- Jim _

Re: [MBZ] I found another leak

2020-08-13 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Buy and install a new radiator. That one is shot. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

2020-08-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I don't think I've ever seen the whole thing. Might have to fix that. -Curt On Thursday, August 13, 2020, 7:27:53 PM EDT, Jim Cathey wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoWom0CCRKM I had forgotten about Steve Martin doing this song... Tasty little movie.  And, as over-the-top as M

Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

2020-08-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoWom0CCRKM > > I had forgotten about Steve Martin doing this song... Tasty little movie. And, as over-the-top as Martin's sadistic dentist may be, he's still completely upstaged by Bill Murray's masochistic dental p

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Thu, August 13, 2020 7:00 pm, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > Saturns make good 'toads'. Something about the transmission allows them > to be flat-towed with impunity, or so I recall. Only the manuals, IIRC. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list arch

Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

2020-08-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoWom0CCRKM I had forgotten about Steve Martin doing this song... -Curt On Thursday, August 13, 2020, 7:04:14 PM EDT, Jim Cathey wrote: > Maybe out of work dentists... She said "My boy, I think some day You'll find a way to make your natural tendencies

Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

2020-08-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Maybe out of work dentists... She said "My boy, I think some day You'll find a way to make your natural tendencies pay" -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options g

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Saturns make good 'toads'. Something about the transmission allows them to be flat-towed with impunity, or so I recall. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

2020-08-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
My parent's kitchen area is all vinyl that looks like tile. Visually its amazing, looks just like tile, if you had soft soled shoes on you probably wouldn't know it wasn't tile. When you touch it its obvious. Theirs is all one piece, makes cleanup a snap. -Curt On Thursday, August 13, 2020,

Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

2020-08-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Thu, August 13, 2020 6:09 pm, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > I'm probably a dinosaur but I'll go with vinyl (over ceramic tile) every > time for kitchens and bathrooms. I'll admit it's nice when I drop a glass or plate and it bounces instead of shattering.

Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

2020-08-13 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I'm probably a dinosaur but I'll go with vinyl (over ceramic tile) every time for kitchens and bathrooms. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of G Mann via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 4:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: 210 rear wheel bearings

2020-08-13 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Good idea. I have one of those. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Aug 13, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes > wrote: > > Try checking with a non-contact thermometer to see where there is too much > heat after a run. > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:me

Re: [MBZ] 210 rear wheel bearings

2020-08-13 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
"Does it change when you turn to the left or to the right, i.e., load/unload the right/left side?" This was the most useful test to identify a bad rear wheel bearing in my Outback. Also (being a station wagon) I was able to crawl back there and listen while someone else drove -Original Me

[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: 210 rear wheel bearings

2020-08-13 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Try checking with a non-contact thermometer to see where there is too much heat after a run. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 2:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc:

Re: [MBZ] I found another leak

2020-08-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Thu, August 13, 2020 5:25 pm, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > Now what to do about it ... Do they still have radiator repair shops in your area? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change deli

Re: [MBZ] 210 rear wheel bearings

2020-08-13 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I think I did that a coupla months ago and did not notice much difference but I will check again. Pinion bearings difficult? FT Sent from iPhone > On Aug 13, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > It could also be the diff pinion bearings. > > Does it change when you turn to the le

Re: [MBZ] A Moose Once Ate My Pizza...

2020-08-13 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
"If you give a moose a pizza, he’ll ask for a Labatt’s. And you don’t want a drunk moose." Max Dillon Charleston SC Aug 12, 2020 7:31:12 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes : > https://thetakeout.com/park-rangers-warn-guests-not-to-feed-moose-pizza-1844702194 > > -D > ___

Re: [MBZ] 210 rear wheel bearings

2020-08-13 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 15:34:35 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > I might have mentioned or asked this before. The rear end of the > $600E320 is howling. Increases with speed. I changed the diff fluid but > that didn’t make a difference. So I’m guessing it must be the wheel > bearings or

Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

2020-08-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
If you are building a new house for yourself, bathrooms and laundry rooms.. kitchen sink areas, use marine grade 5 ply plywood... it is made to be exposed to water and will hold up years longer than particle board flooring underlayment. Since the Kaleb rent house has a history of soft water damage

Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

2020-08-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Mon, August 10, 2020 10:10 am, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > When they installed the tile in this house when it was built they > apparently installed it directly on the osb subfloor. As a result we have > had tiles thru the entire house crack over the years. It varies with tile size (big

[MBZ] 210 rear wheel bearings

2020-08-13 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I might have mentioned or asked this before. The rear end of the $600E320 is howling. Increases with speed. I changed the diff fluid but that didn’t make a difference. So I’m guessing it must be the wheel bearings or could it be in the axles? I seem to recall Kaleb or someone saying those wheel

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Thu, August 13, 2020 2:50 pm, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > Just checked.. it has 133323.0 miles no rust anywhere, likely PLASTIC car.. FIFY. I owned my Ion for a year before I realized the doorskins and fenders were plastic (I knew the SL/SC were mostly plastic, but thought the Ion was more l

Re: [MBZ] 6.9 fun fun fun on ze autobahn

2020-08-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Is that the 'warning, don't go faster than this when stuck in the snow' zone? Looks like the shift points are at 105 and 170, but it seemed to shift before it got to those points. Mitch. On Thu, August 13, 2020 10:45 am, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > there is that hashed yellow band between

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I have not even looked at mileage... or tried the AC yet... So far... just pulled all the "Stuff" that had been crammed in and stored... loads of NEW camping items... tags still on... and womens clothing.. tags still on... funny people do funny things.. Just checked.. it has 133323.0 miles no rust

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Dang, too bad. My parents had a Saturn with a manual at one point. The clutch feel was "numb" but not a bad car otherwise. Mileage? Heat and AC systems work? G Mann via Mercedes writes: > Automatic... power windows [which work BTW] Power door locks.. actually.. > considering it was a cheap ca

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Automatic... power windows [which work BTW] Power door locks.. actually.. considering it was a cheap car in the cheap car market.. it is rather well appointed. Even has a power moon roof [reason enough to sell it quick.. and take some flip money.. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:16 AM Allan Streib via

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Manual or automatic? G Mann via Mercedes writes: > As it happens, I just had a 2000 Saturn SC1 given to me, free... take it > away please... it had been setting for maybe 5 years... I put a fresh > battery in... cranked for a few turns... it fired right up... I drove it to > my shop... slowly..

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I meant to the general public, not insiders. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 2:14 PM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 1:07 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Especially the Lucky Strikes. Who rememebers LSMFT

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 1:07 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Especially the Lucky Strikes. Who rememebers LSMFT? Lucky Strikes Mean Fatal Tumors! -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebe

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
In 2018 Angie and I got to walk under a Saturn V at the US Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville. The thing about the Saturn V is that you walk under it, and then keep walking under it for what feels like forever, the dang thing just goes on and on. I got thinking about the lunatics that strapp

Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

2020-08-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Maybe out of work dentists... -Curt On Thursday, August 13, 2020, 1:41:52 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: *This is uncomfortable, so it is often not performed aggressively enough to get a good sample.* At last  -  profession tailor made for sadists On Thu, Aug 13, 2020

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Especially the Lucky Strikes. Who rememebers LSMFT? On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 1:55 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yeah definitely slower to 17,000mph > > The 5 F1 engines each had 2.5million pounds of thrust and there was > never an operational failure. A testame

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
As it happens, I just had a 2000 Saturn SC1 given to me, free... take it away please... it had been setting for maybe 5 years... I put a fresh battery in... cranked for a few turns... it fired right up... I drove it to my shop... slowly... the tires are dry rotted .. 12 yr old DOT code... I had ne

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Yeah definitely slower to 17,000mph The 5 F1 engines each had 2.5million pounds of thrust and there was never an operational failure.   A testament to guys in white short-sleeve shirts, short haircuts, skinny ties, slide rules, and Lucky Strikes. --FT On 8/13/20 1:43 PM, Rick Knoble via Mer

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I you look at the video, he says the Saturn rocket was 0-42 mph in ten seconds. I would suspect that the SL600 would be far quicker than that. Maybe even 0-100 mph, the SL600 would be quicker. From 100- 17,000 mph, I would guess the rocket wins. What a glorious time for science. I'm sad that it

Re: [MBZ] just buy it and drive it as is?

2020-08-13 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
no loballers i no whut i got --FT On 8/13/20 1:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Maybe for $400. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:51 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-ml550-4-matic/7176583364.html -- --FT

Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

2020-08-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
*This is uncomfortable, so it is often not performed aggressively enough to get a good sample.* At last - profession tailor made for sadists On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 12:31 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Polymerase chain reaction. > > The swab can get gunked up

Re: [MBZ] 6.9 fun fun fun on ze autobahn

2020-08-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Those poor bugs never had a chance. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:45 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I wondered about the light too, maybe some Euro thing for fuel mileage > or speed or something? there is that hashed yellow band between 50 and > 60 too > > --FT > >

Re: [MBZ] just buy it and drive it as is?

2020-08-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Maybe for $400. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:51 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-ml550-4-matic/7176583364.html > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archive

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>I think you mean the Saturn S: No. Like a Saturn V. Roman numeral for "five" or "5".  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V https://youtu.be/n4vWXL9E7jg Rick ___

Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification

2020-08-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Buggered wrote: *...gratifying to stomp the go pedal, kick down, and launch like a Saturn V* I think you mean the Saturn S: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_Corporation#/media/File:Saturn-SL2.jpg On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:16 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

2020-08-13 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Polymerase chain reaction. The swab can get gunked up or not make contact with the infected epithelium. It has to go way in the back of your nose where it joins your throat. This is uncomfortable, so it is often not performed aggressively enough to get a good sample. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 8:55 AM

Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

2020-08-13 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 08:41:15 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > It is almost all false negatives with the current PCR nasopharyngeal > seab, die to technique. False positives are rare. Karl, Is that supposed to be "with the current PCR nasopharyngeal swab, due to technique" ? What d

Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

2020-08-13 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
It is almost all false negatives with the current PCR nasopharyngeal seab, die to technique. False positives are rare. On Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 9:43 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Neither appeals particularly, with false negative you expose others, with > false posit

[MBZ] just buy it and drive it as is?

2020-08-13 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-ml550-4-matic/7176583364.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinf

Re: [MBZ] 6.9 fun fun fun on ze autobahn

2020-08-13 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I wondered about the light too, maybe some Euro thing for fuel mileage or speed or something?  there is that hashed yellow band between 50 and 60 too --FT On 8/13/20 10:22 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: The wheels are a travesty. What is it flashing red light on the speedo? Bob R Sent

Re: [MBZ] 6.9 fun fun fun on ze autobahn

2020-08-13 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
The wheels are a travesty. What is it flashing red light on the speedo? Bob R Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2020, at 6:51 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > The guy could have cleaned the windshield. Notice velour seats > > https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=uJn

[MBZ] 6.9 fun fun fun on ze autobahn

2020-08-13 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
The guy could have cleaned the windshield. Notice velour seats https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=uJnwhIa7FYs --FT Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change deli

Re: [MBZ] A Moose Once Ate My Pizza...

2020-08-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Silly campers, everybody knows mooses prefer popcorn... -Curt On Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 9:25:03 PM EDT, Dwight Giles wrote: Thanks Dan. We are,safe here but Curt needs to pay attention. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 7:31 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: h