Re: [MBZ] OT Covids vax
Pretty good article by someone who had it recently. https://www.theorganicprepper.com/covid-personal-story/ Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Covids vax
yes exactly. On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 9:09 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dr Boy at Stanford says a lot of the cases earlier were occurring a bit to > the south Of his location in areas with larger Hispanics populations, > generally lower socioeconomic groups who live more densely and don’t have > the luxury of working from home since most of their jobs are services or > construction etc that involve lots of close contact. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:29 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Karl, In your experience, do you think illegal immigration across the > > southern border could be a factor, especially in CA? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes > > Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:01 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Cc: Peter Frederick > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Covids vax > > > > Actually, all the new cases are from there being far too many cases > around. > > Since I'm half way through a case myself with no known exposure, I can > > verify it's very contagious. > > > > The more people have it, the more it spreads, just like any contagious > > disease. The death rate is going up because somewhere between one and > three > > percent of people who contract it eventually die from it. Several > million > > new cases since every idiot in the US just HAD to travel for Thanksgiving > > means 3 new deaths in the next month, minumum, and probably far more. > > We have now arrived at the point where hospital services are unavailable > due > > to the number of CoVid cases, so people are going to also start dying > from > > other preventable causes as well -- excess deaths in the US are up > > considerably more than just the number from CoVid already, and it's > going to > > be much worse in January and February. > > > > My 97 year old mother is currently in hospital, still doing pretty well > but > > on oxygen, diagnosed three days after I was. I suspect she got it from > her > > home health aides rather than me bringing it home since she was > complaining > > of chills for several days before I started to run a temp. Gonna be > another > > couple weeks before we know for sure she's gonna make it. > > > > I got the Lilly mono-clonal antibody treatment. Mom would have had the > > Remdesivir except she has some pre-existing kidney issues so they didn't > > prescribe it, haven't heard back if they decided to use the Lilly one > (it's > > not usually used in hospitalized patients). Seemed to help me, I have > > regained a little sense of taste and smell, although strong odors make my > > nose sting like crazy. > > > > I was hoping Mom could be vaccinated shortly, she's up as soon as the > > nursing home residents get one which starts this week in Indiana. > > Thankfully my sister in law the nurse is already done with round one of > the > > Pfizer vaccine. > > > > This stuff is not a joke, get the vaccine as soon as you can! > > > > Peter > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Covids vax
We see plenty of people from south of the border here legally, visiting family. One of my patients right now is here on vacation from Mexico. But he probably got it here. We have plenty of covid on our side of the border to account for what we are seeing. I think the housing situation here is driving it. Prices drive many people to live in houses that have been added on to and expanded over the years, either for large families or just to collect rent from people who need a room. But the rest of the house is often shared. Covid travels easily in households, and if the people are all working construction etc they can get it and bring it home. I think this explains a lot of the ethnic disparity in burden of disease for our state, anyway. We certainly have a lot of immigrants but many of them are lower in socioeconomic status which drives household sizes up. On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 8:29 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Karl, In your experience, do you think illegal immigration across the > southern border could be a factor, especially in CA? > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes > Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:01 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Peter Frederick > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Covids vax > > Actually, all the new cases are from there being far too many cases around. > Since I'm half way through a case myself with no known exposure, I can > verify it's very contagious. > > The more people have it, the more it spreads, just like any contagious > disease. The death rate is going up because somewhere between one and > three > percent of people who contract it eventually die from it. Several million > new cases since every idiot in the US just HAD to travel for Thanksgiving > means 3 new deaths in the next month, minumum, and probably far more. > We have now arrived at the point where hospital services are unavailable > due > to the number of CoVid cases, so people are going to also start dying from > other preventable causes as well -- excess deaths in the US are up > considerably more than just the number from CoVid already, and it's going > to > be much worse in January and February. > > My 97 year old mother is currently in hospital, still doing pretty well but > on oxygen, diagnosed three days after I was. I suspect she got it from her > home health aides rather than me bringing it home since she was complaining > of chills for several days before I started to run a temp. Gonna be > another > couple weeks before we know for sure she's gonna make it. > > I got the Lilly mono-clonal antibody treatment. Mom would have had the > Remdesivir except she has some pre-existing kidney issues so they didn't > prescribe it, haven't heard back if they decided to use the Lilly one (it's > not usually used in hospitalized patients). Seemed to help me, I have > regained a little sense of taste and smell, although strong odors make my > nose sting like crazy. > > I was hoping Mom could be vaccinated shortly, she's up as soon as the > nursing home residents get one which starts this week in Indiana. > Thankfully my sister in law the nurse is already done with round one of the > Pfizer vaccine. > > This stuff is not a joke, get the vaccine as soon as you can! > > Peter > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Covids vax
Dr Boy at Stanford says a lot of the cases earlier were occurring a bit to the south Of his location in areas with larger Hispanics populations, generally lower socioeconomic groups who live more densely and don’t have the luxury of working from home since most of their jobs are services or construction etc that involve lots of close contact. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:29 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > Karl, In your experience, do you think illegal immigration across the > southern border could be a factor, especially in CA? > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes > Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:01 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Peter Frederick > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Covids vax > > Actually, all the new cases are from there being far too many cases around. > Since I'm half way through a case myself with no known exposure, I can > verify it's very contagious. > > The more people have it, the more it spreads, just like any contagious > disease. The death rate is going up because somewhere between one and three > percent of people who contract it eventually die from it. Several million > new cases since every idiot in the US just HAD to travel for Thanksgiving > means 3 new deaths in the next month, minumum, and probably far more. > We have now arrived at the point where hospital services are unavailable due > to the number of CoVid cases, so people are going to also start dying from > other preventable causes as well -- excess deaths in the US are up > considerably more than just the number from CoVid already, and it's going to > be much worse in January and February. > > My 97 year old mother is currently in hospital, still doing pretty well but > on oxygen, diagnosed three days after I was. I suspect she got it from her > home health aides rather than me bringing it home since she was complaining > of chills for several days before I started to run a temp. Gonna be another > couple weeks before we know for sure she's gonna make it. > > I got the Lilly mono-clonal antibody treatment. Mom would have had the > Remdesivir except she has some pre-existing kidney issues so they didn't > prescribe it, haven't heard back if they decided to use the Lilly one (it's > not usually used in hospitalized patients). Seemed to help me, I have > regained a little sense of taste and smell, although strong odors make my > nose sting like crazy. > > I was hoping Mom could be vaccinated shortly, she's up as soon as the > nursing home residents get one which starts this week in Indiana. > Thankfully my sister in law the nurse is already done with round one of the > Pfizer vaccine. > > This stuff is not a joke, get the vaccine as soon as you can! > > Peter > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Covids vax
Karl, In your experience, do you think illegal immigration across the southern border could be a factor, especially in CA? -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 11:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Peter Frederick Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Covids vax Actually, all the new cases are from there being far too many cases around. Since I'm half way through a case myself with no known exposure, I can verify it's very contagious. The more people have it, the more it spreads, just like any contagious disease. The death rate is going up because somewhere between one and three percent of people who contract it eventually die from it. Several million new cases since every idiot in the US just HAD to travel for Thanksgiving means 3 new deaths in the next month, minumum, and probably far more. We have now arrived at the point where hospital services are unavailable due to the number of CoVid cases, so people are going to also start dying from other preventable causes as well -- excess deaths in the US are up considerably more than just the number from CoVid already, and it's going to be much worse in January and February. My 97 year old mother is currently in hospital, still doing pretty well but on oxygen, diagnosed three days after I was. I suspect she got it from her home health aides rather than me bringing it home since she was complaining of chills for several days before I started to run a temp. Gonna be another couple weeks before we know for sure she's gonna make it. I got the Lilly mono-clonal antibody treatment. Mom would have had the Remdesivir except she has some pre-existing kidney issues so they didn't prescribe it, haven't heard back if they decided to use the Lilly one (it's not usually used in hospitalized patients). Seemed to help me, I have regained a little sense of taste and smell, although strong odors make my nose sting like crazy. I was hoping Mom could be vaccinated shortly, she's up as soon as the nursing home residents get one which starts this week in Indiana. Thankfully my sister in law the nurse is already done with round one of the Pfizer vaccine. This stuff is not a joke, get the vaccine as soon as you can! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Covids vax
Actually, all the new cases are from there being far too many cases around. Since I'm half way through a case myself with no known exposure, I can verify it's very contagious. The more people have it, the more it spreads, just like any contagious disease. The death rate is going up because somewhere between one and three percent of people who contract it eventually die from it. Several million new cases since every idiot in the US just HAD to travel for Thanksgiving means 3 new deaths in the next month, minumum, and probably far more. We have now arrived at the point where hospital services are unavailable due to the number of CoVid cases, so people are going to also start dying from other preventable causes as well -- excess deaths in the US are up considerably more than just the number from CoVid already, and it's going to be much worse in January and February. My 97 year old mother is currently in hospital, still doing pretty well but on oxygen, diagnosed three days after I was. I suspect she got it from her home health aides rather than me bringing it home since she was complaining of chills for several days before I started to run a temp. Gonna be another couple weeks before we know for sure she's gonna make it. I got the Lilly mono-clonal antibody treatment. Mom would have had the Remdesivir except she has some pre-existing kidney issues so they didn't prescribe it, haven't heard back if they decided to use the Lilly one (it's not usually used in hospitalized patients). Seemed to help me, I have regained a little sense of taste and smell, although strong odors make my nose sting like crazy. I was hoping Mom could be vaccinated shortly, she's up as soon as the nursing home residents get one which starts this week in Indiana. Thankfully my sister in law the nurse is already done with round one of the Pfizer vaccine. This stuff is not a joke, get the vaccine as soon as you can! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What Do the Amish Think of Civilization?
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[MBZ] What Do the Amish Think of Civilization?
> > What Do the Amish Think of Civilization? > > > > A fifteen-year-old Amish boy and his father visited the city for the very > > first time. They > > wandered around, marveling at the different sights. Eventually, they got > > to a mall. > > > > They were amazed by almost everything they saw, but they were especially > > amazed at two > > shiny, silver walls that could move apart and then slide back together > > again. > > > > The boy asked, "What is this Father?" The father (never having seen an > > elevator) > > responded, "Son, I have never seen anything like this in my life, I don't > > know what it is." > > > > While the boy and his father were watching with amazement, a fat old lady > > in a > > wheelchair rolled up to the moving walls and pressed a button. The walls > > opened, and > > the lady passed between them into a small room. The walls closed, and the > > boy and his > > father watched the small numbers above the walls light up sequentially. > > > > They continued to watch until it reached the last number, and then the > > numbers began > > to light in the reverse order. Finally, the walls opened up again and a > > gorgeous 24-yearold blond woman stepped out. > > > > The father, not taking his eyes off the young woman, said quietly to his > > son: > > > > "Junior, go get your Mother." -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Covids vax
Credit report, Karl. Thank you. Can you explain why the number of deaths is increasing at such an alarming rate. I thought that the new cases were from restaurants and other large event Gatherings. Is it possible to generalize? On Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 5:47 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yes we can shift a lot of resources around. But you have to realize it > means nothing else is getting done. All elective surgeries are cancelled > until further notice. All of our anesthesia residents have been temporarily > assigned to ICUs, along with every other qualified fellow (cardiology etc) > in the institution. Currently about 310 of our 900 total beds are occupied > by covid patients, and we are increasing by 15-20 covid patients per day. > The peak in April was 160. Not looking good. Some hospitals in the state > are something like 80-90% covid patients, e.g. El Centro. > > The limit on hospital beds is more often a staffing limit than a physical > limit. It isnt like there is a huge pool of RNs out there available to hire > to staff an extra 20 beds every day. This is particularly true of ICU > nurses. Most nurses dont work in ICUs. Respiratory therapists are also in > high demand. Overtime is very expensive. > > If you come into the ER for any non-covid reason, your care will be > impacted, including the ambulance taking you to a distant facility because > the ER where you would like to be taken is closed. > > At any rate we will do what we have to do. Most of the fear mongering is > media driven - not hospitals or providers. Our hospital is normally full. > Giving up over 300 beds is a big deal. But no one is in the parking lot - > yet. > > Hospitals are only "businesses" in the sense that they are not publically > supported, so they run as nonprofits typically. They have to watch the > bottom line or they can run out of cash quickly. If they were not run as > businesses, we would have to pay for them with tax money. > > Daily new cases seem to have peaked here now, but hospitalizations tend to > lag the new cases by a week or two. So we could easily be over 400 patients > in hospital before this wave subsides. We also have no idea why we are even > in a wave, as we remain mostly locked down, but there are lots of people in > high density housing working essential jobs who are likely contributing, > and apparently that is enough to cause a spike. > > In other news, some details of the botched CDC testing fiasco. What a > cluster this turned out to be when they could have simply bought some tests > from Thailand or Korea. A real "perfect is the enemy of good" scenario: > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cdc-covid/2020/12/25/c2b418ae-4206-11eb-8db8-395dedaaa036_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F2de0633%2F5fe766a79d2fda0efb94a093%2F5e2922849bbc0f632602b279%2F8%2F68%2F5fe766a79d2fda0efb94a093 > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 11:41 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > My understanding of the hospital bed "shortage" is that hospitals are > > businesses, and having an empty bed "just because" is a money losing > > proposition. Thus the number of available beds is set based on demand > and > > forecasted demand. Chicken Little crying about the sky is falling > because > > hospital beds are nearly full / nearly at capacity is deceptive > > fear-mongering. When the demand exists, hospitals will meet it. Back at > > the start of this panic, the US. Navy hospital ships were mobilized, one > to > > each coast, and they were not used to treat Wuhan Red Death patients. > That > > would be a money losing proposition for the hospitals, so no one should > be > > surprised. > > - > > Max > > Charleston SC > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 11:12 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > You do bring up a good point about hospitals being hit with shortages > > > again. You'd have thought that having the summer off they'd have > stocked > > up > > > on PPE. I've certainly stocked us up on cleaners, TP and paper towels. > > I've > > > got meat and frozen veg laid in assuming we're going to be locked down > > > starting at the first of the year. > > > Apparently hospital administrators don't think ahead. Angie has laid > in a > > > year's worth (!) of masks, rubber gloves and cleaner for her practice > > > although I expect her to be closed down after the holidays. > > > -Curt > > > > > > On Sunday, December 20, 2020, 6:11:39 PM EST, Clay Monroe via > > Mercedes > > > wrote: > > > > > > Short term success in this plague is no measure of long term > > > effectiveness. > > > > > > There are small victories that have not withstood the test of time. > > > Kauai, HI shut itself off for seven months and now is being hard hit by > > > infections. AK also thought it had a handle, but that early
Re: [MBZ] OT Covids vax
Yes we can shift a lot of resources around. But you have to realize it means nothing else is getting done. All elective surgeries are cancelled until further notice. All of our anesthesia residents have been temporarily assigned to ICUs, along with every other qualified fellow (cardiology etc) in the institution. Currently about 310 of our 900 total beds are occupied by covid patients, and we are increasing by 15-20 covid patients per day. The peak in April was 160. Not looking good. Some hospitals in the state are something like 80-90% covid patients, e.g. El Centro. The limit on hospital beds is more often a staffing limit than a physical limit. It isnt like there is a huge pool of RNs out there available to hire to staff an extra 20 beds every day. This is particularly true of ICU nurses. Most nurses dont work in ICUs. Respiratory therapists are also in high demand. Overtime is very expensive. If you come into the ER for any non-covid reason, your care will be impacted, including the ambulance taking you to a distant facility because the ER where you would like to be taken is closed. At any rate we will do what we have to do. Most of the fear mongering is media driven - not hospitals or providers. Our hospital is normally full. Giving up over 300 beds is a big deal. But no one is in the parking lot - yet. Hospitals are only "businesses" in the sense that they are not publically supported, so they run as nonprofits typically. They have to watch the bottom line or they can run out of cash quickly. If they were not run as businesses, we would have to pay for them with tax money. Daily new cases seem to have peaked here now, but hospitalizations tend to lag the new cases by a week or two. So we could easily be over 400 patients in hospital before this wave subsides. We also have no idea why we are even in a wave, as we remain mostly locked down, but there are lots of people in high density housing working essential jobs who are likely contributing, and apparently that is enough to cause a spike. In other news, some details of the botched CDC testing fiasco. What a cluster this turned out to be when they could have simply bought some tests from Thailand or Korea. A real "perfect is the enemy of good" scenario: https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cdc-covid/2020/12/25/c2b418ae-4206-11eb-8db8-395dedaaa036_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F2de0633%2F5fe766a79d2fda0efb94a093%2F5e2922849bbc0f632602b279%2F8%2F68%2F5fe766a79d2fda0efb94a093 On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 11:41 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My understanding of the hospital bed "shortage" is that hospitals are > businesses, and having an empty bed "just because" is a money losing > proposition. Thus the number of available beds is set based on demand and > forecasted demand. Chicken Little crying about the sky is falling because > hospital beds are nearly full / nearly at capacity is deceptive > fear-mongering. When the demand exists, hospitals will meet it. Back at > the start of this panic, the US. Navy hospital ships were mobilized, one to > each coast, and they were not used to treat Wuhan Red Death patients. That > would be a money losing proposition for the hospitals, so no one should be > surprised. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 11:12 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > You do bring up a good point about hospitals being hit with shortages > > again. You'd have thought that having the summer off they'd have stocked > up > > on PPE. I've certainly stocked us up on cleaners, TP and paper towels. > I've > > got meat and frozen veg laid in assuming we're going to be locked down > > starting at the first of the year. > > Apparently hospital administrators don't think ahead. Angie has laid in a > > year's worth (!) of masks, rubber gloves and cleaner for her practice > > although I expect her to be closed down after the holidays. > > -Curt > > > > On Sunday, December 20, 2020, 6:11:39 PM EST, Clay Monroe via > Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > Short term success in this plague is no measure of long term > > effectiveness. > > > > There are small victories that have not withstood the test of time. > > Kauai, HI shut itself off for seven months and now is being hard hit by > > infections. AK also thought it had a handle, but that early control was > > shown to be immune to the reality of disease spread. New Zealand also > > though they had mastered it, but keeps getting hit while being sealed off > > from the world. And the list of places that followed the narrative of > > plague control are now hotbeds. > > > > The West Coast is full of sheeple who would willingly follow mandates and > > narrative. Yet that willingness to isolate and mask has not translated > > into a reduction. Medical centers are filled to the gil
Re: [MBZ] OT how much further could I ride this down in value?
I love his enthusiasm and naivete. On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 12:09 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It's part of the charm: > Welcome to Hoovie's Garage, the Dumbest Automotive Channel in all of > YouTube. > > On 2020-12-26 10:54, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > But but but it is SO entertaining. > > > > On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 11:59 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> The dumbest automotive show on YouTube > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT how much further could I ride this down in value?
It's part of the charm: Welcome to Hoovie's Garage, the Dumbest Automotive Channel in all of YouTube. On 2020-12-26 10:54, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: But but but it is SO entertaining. On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 11:59 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: The dumbest automotive show on YouTube ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT how much further could I ride this down in value?
But but but it is SO entertaining. On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 11:59 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The dumbest automotive show on YouTube > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:09 PM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Who is Hoovie? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electric vehicles and wind power information
Not perhaps. Definitely. Thanks. On Fri, Dec 25, 2020, 11:54 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Perhaps of particular interest to Andrew > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88jpgxSRVZU > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
