Re: [MBZ] 1982 300D - 229k miles - $1,000

2021-07-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It's the last of the pre Becker electronic radios.  Very low tech.

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> Radio doesn't look like a Becker to me.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, 1:44 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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>
> > Looks like it might have some rust in addtion to needing "breaks" but
> > maybe could be a driver.
> >
> > Is that a factory radio?
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 2006 ML500 - 172k miles - $6,200

2021-07-03 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Crappy pics. I guess I should throw a new trans in this one I just got and sell 
it for $5k

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[MBZ] 2006 ML500 - 172k miles - $6,200

2021-07-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/westmont-mercedes-ml/7345879460.html

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Re: [MBZ] W124 window gremlins

2021-07-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Brings to mind also to check the rear window disable switch (child safety 
switch) that is in the center console, assuming the model in question has that. 
If that's gummed up with old soda and coffee spills, could cause the rear 
windows to not work.

Allan

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
> > You said the front and rear _switches_ for _a_ window are in series.
> 
> Exactly.  Twice the failure points for a rear window compared to a front.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 window gremlins

2021-07-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> You said the front and rear _switches_ for _a_ window are in series.

Exactly.  Twice the failure points for a rear window compared to a front.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Element dead again

2021-07-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Good feedback. Yes the other thought that occured to me since son wants to take 
the car to school in the fall is see if he's willing to help do the work and 
make it a learning experience.

It is a 2006 Element, AWD. Transmission should be model MZKA.

Allan

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> > Thoughts?
> 
> You asked. In selling a car that is need of work, you are creating an 
> extremely small market for the vehicle. Selling it as is seems like an 
> invitation to prospective purchasers to beat you down on price mercilessly. 
> If you find a transmission that is used, install it, or have an Indy that 
> won't report it to carfax install it, drive it for a bit, change the trans 
> fluid again, and detail it, you can command a premium price.
> 
> Those are my thoughts on the matter.
> 
> BTW, Pick-n-Pull is having a 50% off sale this weekend.  What year is the 
> Element?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Element dead again

2021-07-03 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> Thoughts?

You asked. In selling a car that is need of work, you are creating an extremely 
small market for the vehicle. Selling it as is seems like an invitation to 
prospective purchasers to beat you down on price mercilessly. If you find a 
transmission that is used, install it, or have an Indy that won't report it to 
carfax install it, drive it for a bit, change the trans fluid again, and detail 
it, you can command a premium price.

Those are my thoughts on the matter.

BTW, Pick-n-Pull is having a 50% off sale this weekend.  What year is the 
Element?

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Re: [MBZ] Lb7 injectors

2021-07-03 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
While I have the valve covers off I also need to adjust the valves. 

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> About 7 hours in and old injectors are out. New ones go in tomorrow.
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Re: [MBZ] Lb7 injectors

2021-07-03 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Wow. Lot of work. Good job

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] 2000 ML320 - 203k miles - $2500

2021-07-03 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Front star has red too. “Customized”

Maybe the carpets are fresh cleaned and the towels are to keep them that way 

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> Wonder what's going on with the rugs under the floor mats? And the one red 
> spoke on each wheel?
> 
> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/paoli-2000-mercedes-ml320/7345913479.html
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Re: [MBZ] W124 window gremlins

2021-07-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 9:28 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 8:32 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
> > In the computer-less windows the rear windows' door switches are in
> > series with the front switches for same.
> 
> Does that mean that you cannot operate the front and rear windows 
> simultaneously? Or in simultaneous but opposite directions? Not sure I've 
> ever tried it.

Hm, never mind (I think). My first read of what you wrote was not actually what 
you wrote. I thought you were saying the front and rear windows were in series. 
You said the front and rear _switches_ for _a_ window are in series.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 window gremlins

2021-07-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 8:32 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
> In the computer-less windows the rear windows' door switches are in
> series with the front switches for same.

Does that mean that you cannot operate the front and rear windows 
simultaneously? Or in simultaneous but opposite directions? Not sure I've ever 
tried it.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 window gremlins

2021-07-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
In the computer-less windows the rear windows' door switches are in
series with the front switches for same.  If EITHER switch is wonky then
the window won't work right.  There are only two wires to the motor.
One ends up hot and the other ends up grounded in order to make
the motor run. I.e., both wires are switched simultaneously.  Ample
opportunity for something to go wrong within either of the switches.
IIRC the resting state of both motor wires is hot.  If true, that's a good
diagnostic step, though you have to disconnect the motor to prove that
this is the case.  (If you don't both sides will look hot even if only one is,
because the minuscule metering current will run through the motor.)

Rare that a wire goes bad, except for the ones going through the hinge.
You have to look at a schematic in order to theorize what single failure
could cause any observed symptoms.  That and a multimeter and you
should be able to figure it out.

Barring trauma, it's one of: fuse, dirty switch, or broken hinge wire.
At least, initially.  It's also entirely possible to make things worse while
trying to fix it.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Element dead again

2021-07-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Checking sites like NADA, KBB, Edmunds, and local CL listings, setting aside 
the transmission problem I think I could get maybe $4K for mine given the miles 
and condition.

Buddy of mine who is a factory trained Honda tech said that swapping a 
transmission is about 8-9 hours. That's for a pro, so it would no doubt take me 
a lot longer, and I don't have a lift so it would be a real PITA.

He thought all-in for a rebuilt transmission such as from Jasper, plus labor 
and misc. I'd be in the ballpark of $5K.

I'm seeing used transmissions on car-part.com for $600-700 for lower-mileage 
examples but more of a crap shoot on whether they are any good, so thinking of 
just selling it as-is to someone who is more enthused than I am about this 
project.

Thinking I'd ask maybe $2,000, discounting for the cost of a used transmission 
and some room for profit for the buyer, and see if I get any bites. Thoughts?

Allan

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> That was the plan when Dan posted this
> 
> https://www.benzworld.org/threads/for-sale-2000-mb-e-class-e-320-awd-wagon-4d.3074620/
> 
> Figured get what I can from the Element as-is, then fix up this one and 
> probably be at about even money with a nicer (if older) car.
> 
> Seller never answered any of my inquiries though.
> 
> I don't urgently need the car, but it would be a nice-to-have to let my kid 
> take to college in the fall. So replacing/repairing will probably happen 
> sooner or later.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> > Sell as is or fix and then sell and buy a real car like a Mercedes w123 or 
> > w124 or even a w211. If you need to haul stuff get a wagon version. Life is 
> > too short to drive garbage!
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > > On Jul 3, 2021, at 12:10 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Well that didn't last long. Element transmission quit on me again today. 
> > > Fortunately I was able to roll off the road in a safe place and call son 
> > > to come with the tow chain and pull me home.
> > > 
> > > Now have to make that "fix it or scrap it" decision. I'm not crazy about 
> > > the car, but it is in pretty good shape otherwise. Engine runs well, AC 
> > > works well, in acceptable cosmetic condition, and it's a pretty useful 
> > > car as far as interior space and utility. 215k miles on it though.
> > > 
> > > Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W124 window gremlins

2021-07-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I agree, that is my recollection of how the windows work, but like you I'm not 
certain. Checking for frayed or broken wires probably a good next step.

Allan

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 7:57 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> > Can this be a wiring issue?
> 
> Yeah. IIRC there is power to the window all the time and the switch is a 
> grounding switch, meaning the switch provides a path to ground for the window 
> motor to move one way or the other. If the down grounding wire is shorted to 
> ground in the door jam or something, yeah it's going down.
> 
> I could be wrong about the whole thing. It's been a long while. Hopefully 
> Jaime or Dan or Kaleb will chime in.
> 
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] W124 window gremlins

2021-07-03 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> Can this be a wiring issue?

Yeah. IIRC there is power to the window all the time and the switch is a 
grounding switch, meaning the switch provides a path to ground for the window 
motor to move one way or the other. If the down grounding wire is shorted to 
ground in the door jam or something, yeah it's going down.

I could be wrong about the whole thing. It's been a long while. Hopefully Jaime 
or Dan or Kaleb will chime in.


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Re: [MBZ] W124 window gremlins

2021-07-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
And the front console switch will not move the window either!

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> On Jul 3, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Fuse was checked and replaced. No difference. To be clear, the old switch 
> also stopped working entirely before we replaced with new so I can’t fault 
> the new switch. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 3, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd first of all check the fuse, in case maybe there was a momentary short 
>> somehow caused in the process of changing the switch.
>> 
>> Otherwise, sounds like the new switch is bad. Try to verify with an 
>> ohmmeter/test light?
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
 On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 6:34 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>>> It doesn’t work at all. The window is stuck in the down position.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jul 3, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 When you say you replaced the switch "and nothing" you mean the window 
 now doesn't work at all or it still winds down on its own?
 
 Allan
 
> On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 6:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> My brother has a 1989 300TE and the left rear window went down it’s own- 
> that is the motor wound it down without actuating the switch. We took the 
> door panel off and disconnected the switch and reconnected it and the 
> window went up again after we actuated the switch but then went down 
> again on its own. We replaced switch with a new one and nothing. Can this 
> be a wiring issue? 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 window gremlins

2021-07-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Fuse was checked and replaced. No difference. To be clear, the old switch also 
stopped working entirely before we replaced with new so I can’t fault the new 
switch. 

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> On Jul 3, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'd first of all check the fuse, in case maybe there was a momentary short 
> somehow caused in the process of changing the switch.
> 
> Otherwise, sounds like the new switch is bad. Try to verify with an 
> ohmmeter/test light?
> 
> Allan
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 6:34 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> It doesn’t work at all. The window is stuck in the down position.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 3, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> When you say you replaced the switch "and nothing" you mean the window now 
>>> doesn't work at all or it still winds down on its own?
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
 On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 6:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
 My brother has a 1989 300TE and the left rear window went down it’s own- 
 that is the motor wound it down without actuating the switch. We took the 
 door panel off and disconnected the switch and reconnected it and the 
 window went up again after we actuated the switch but then went down again 
 on its own. We replaced switch with a new one and nothing. Can this be a 
 wiring issue? 
 
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[MBZ] 2000 ML320 - 203k miles - $2500

2021-07-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Wonder what's going on with the rugs under the floor mats? And the one red 
spoke on each wheel?

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/paoli-2000-mercedes-ml320/7345913479.html

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W124 window gremlins

2021-07-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I'd first of all check the fuse, in case maybe there was a momentary short 
somehow caused in the process of changing the switch.

Otherwise, sounds like the new switch is bad. Try to verify with an 
ohmmeter/test light?

Allan

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 6:34 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> It doesn’t work at all. The window is stuck in the down position.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 3, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > When you say you replaced the switch "and nothing" you mean the window now 
> > doesn't work at all or it still winds down on its own?
> > 
> > Allan
> > 
> >> On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 6:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> >> My brother has a 1989 300TE and the left rear window went down it’s own- 
> >> that is the motor wound it down without actuating the switch. We took the 
> >> door panel off and disconnected the switch and reconnected it and the 
> >> window went up again after we actuated the switch but then went down again 
> >> on its own. We replaced switch with a new one and nothing. Can this be a 
> >> wiring issue? 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] W124 window gremlins

2021-07-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
It doesn’t work at all. The window is stuck in the down position.

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> On Jul 3, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> When you say you replaced the switch "and nothing" you mean the window now 
> doesn't work at all or it still winds down on its own?
> 
> Allan
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 6:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> My brother has a 1989 300TE and the left rear window went down it’s own- 
>> that is the motor wound it down without actuating the switch. We took the 
>> door panel off and disconnected the switch and reconnected it and the window 
>> went up again after we actuated the switch but then went down again on its 
>> own. We replaced switch with a new one and nothing. Can this be a wiring 
>> issue? 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] W124 window gremlins

2021-07-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
When you say you replaced the switch "and nothing" you mean the window now 
doesn't work at all or it still winds down on its own?

Allan

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 6:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> My brother has a 1989 300TE and the left rear window went down it’s own- that 
> is the motor wound it down without actuating the switch. We took the door 
> panel off and disconnected the switch and reconnected it and the window went 
> up again after we actuated the switch but then went down again on its own. We 
> replaced switch with a new one and nothing. Can this be a wiring issue? 
> 
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[MBZ] W124 window gremlins

2021-07-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
My brother has a 1989 300TE and the left rear window went down it’s own- that 
is the motor wound it down without actuating the switch. We took the door panel 
off and disconnected the switch and reconnected it and the window went up again 
after we actuated the switch but then went down again on its own. We replaced 
switch with a new one and nothing. Can this be a wiring issue? 

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Re: [MBZ] OT Electric Vehicles On Collision Course With Reality

2021-07-03 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Berkshire Hathaway.. that shirt company… owns a vast amount of rail in the 
west.  No idea what it holds east of the Mississippy

clay 

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> On Jul 2, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Freight rail is heavily used in the USA, more than most of the rest of the 
> world. Freight railroads own most of the track which is why passenger service 
> is a second class citizen except in the northeast where Amtrak owns some 
> routes.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Electric Vehicles On Collision Course With Reality

2021-07-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Very true!
Also remember that all electrical use does not occur at the same time.
Typically cooling/heating demand is highest during the day and most EVs
will be charged at night - actually evening out the load somewhat.

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 1:06 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> I mean, a gallon of gasoline or diesel fuel has made quite a trip to make
> it into my vehicle. It's amazing that it can be as inexpensive as it is ...
> Curt
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Element dead again

2021-07-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
That was the plan when Dan posted this

https://www.benzworld.org/threads/for-sale-2000-mb-e-class-e-320-awd-wagon-4d.3074620/

Figured get what I can from the Element as-is, then fix up this one and 
probably be at about even money with a nicer (if older) car.

Seller never answered any of my inquiries though.

I don't urgently need the car, but it would be a nice-to-have to let my kid 
take to college in the fall. So replacing/repairing will probably happen sooner 
or later.

Allan


On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> Sell as is or fix and then sell and buy a real car like a Mercedes w123 or 
> w124 or even a w211. If you need to haul stuff get a wagon version. Life is 
> too short to drive garbage!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 3, 2021, at 12:10 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Well that didn't last long. Element transmission quit on me again today. 
> > Fortunately I was able to roll off the road in a safe place and call son to 
> > come with the tow chain and pull me home.
> > 
> > Now have to make that "fix it or scrap it" decision. I'm not crazy about 
> > the car, but it is in pretty good shape otherwise. Engine runs well, AC 
> > works well, in acceptable cosmetic condition, and it's a pretty useful car 
> > as far as interior space and utility. 215k miles on it though.
> > 
> > Allan
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Re: [MBZ] 2003 E500 - 97k miles - $5,800

2021-07-03 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I have a $500 03E500 with blown suspension, engine runs well but not drivable. 
I have the $900 04E500 with trans issues and fairly low miles, overall fairly 
nice but same boring colors as this one, gonna order a new CP soon. Total hot 
rod (at least nail the trans goes into limp mode). I was thinking to fix it and 
enjoy it for awhile but with prices as they are I should just unload it for 
some good profit. 

--FT
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> wrote:
> 
> I don't think I've seen an E500 in the wild before. Are they rare?
> 
> https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-2003-mercedes-class/7345620044.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2003 E500 - 97k miles - $5,800

2021-07-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Hm interesting I didn't look at the title status. "Salvage" to me means not 
roadworthy (or else it would be "rebuilt"). Wonder if the seller mis-clicked 
that?

Allan

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 1:58 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> Salvage Title so it has a history somewhere in its life of being on
> life support.
> 
> On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 10:51 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > I don't think I've seen an E500 in the wild before. Are they rare?
> >
> >
> > https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-2003-mercedes-class/7345620044.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Electric Vehicles On Collision Course With Reality

2021-07-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I mean, a gallon of gasoline or diesel fuel has made quite a trip to make it 
into my vehicle. It's amazing that it can be as inexpensive as it is ...
Curt

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  On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 1:58 PM, Jim Cathey via 
Mercedes wrote:   > EV proponents argue that EVs are 
much more efficient and...

While EV's may be, the _grid_ as a whole is something abysmal like 50% 
efficient.
That 'use-anywhere' convenience comes at quite an overall cost.  When you stack
up all the inefficiencies, each original erg is marked down substantially 
before it
actually pushes your ass to the nearest Starbucks...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 2003 E500 - 97k miles - $5,800

2021-07-03 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Salvage Title so it has a history somewhere in its life of being on
life support.

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> I don't think I've seen an E500 in the wild before. Are they rare?
>
>
> https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-2003-mercedes-class/7345620044.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT Electric Vehicles On Collision Course With Reality

2021-07-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> EV proponents argue that EVs are much more efficient and...

While EV's may be, the _grid_ as a whole is something abysmal like 50% 
efficient.
That 'use-anywhere' convenience comes at quite an overall cost.  When you stack
up all the inefficiencies, each original erg is marked down substantially 
before it
actually pushes your ass to the nearest Starbucks...

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Re: [MBZ] 1982 300D - 229k miles - $1,000

2021-07-03 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Radio doesn't look like a Becker to me.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Looks like it might have some rust in addtion to needing "breaks" but
> maybe could be a driver.
>
> Is that a factory radio?
>
>
> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/shelbyville-1982-mercedes/7345754961.html
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[MBZ] 2003 E500 - 97k miles - $5,800

2021-07-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I don't think I've seen an E500 in the wild before. Are they rare?

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-2003-mercedes-class/7345620044.html

Allan
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[MBZ] 1982 300D - 229k miles - $1,000

2021-07-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Looks like it might have some rust in addtion to needing "breaks" but maybe 
could be a driver.

Is that a factory radio?

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/shelbyville-1982-mercedes/7345754961.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT Electric Vehicles On Collision Course With Reality

2021-07-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I agree. Our electrical production and transmission "pipes" are sized with an 
upper limit on load that did not contemplate needing to support the energy 
equivalent of all the motor vehicle fuel consumed every day. EV proponents 
argue that EVs are much more efficient and while that may be true we're still 
talking about adding a massive amount of load to a grid that was never designed 
with that in mind. We'll need more power generation and more transmission 
capacity throughout the system. The only generation technologies currently 
feasible are coal or nuclear fission, and each is its own political football. 
This will be expensive and take a long time.

Allan

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021, at 7:39 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> One of the things I’ve heard of late and agree with is that the 
> infrastructure to support charging at a scale that some are attempting to 
> envision just doesn’t exist and probably never will.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Jul 2, 2021, at 10:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Am I being too simplistic to wonder what will happen when all the cars are 
> > electric (green wet dream) and all other consumer electronic/electrical 
> > devices depend on plug in 110v for charging?  Seems to me, when that kind 
> > of demand hits, the solar and wind farms will be woefully unable to 
> > adequate;'fill the need?
> > 
> > tia,
> > Larry
> > 06 S350..
> > 
> > On 7/2/2021 8:07 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> >> No, the freight rail issue was the railroads trying to get a monopoly and 
> >> shut everyone else down.  Huge shipping rate wars resulted in the collapse 
> >> of the rail beds and operations because they weren't making enough money, 
> >> in spite of being able to legally cooperate on setting rates.  Corporate 
> >> stupidity.  Bankrupted the New York Central after they bought everyone 
> >> else on the East Coast, leaving the nation with NO freight rail until the 
> >> Feds stepped in, and killed the passenger service.  We got the grossly 
> >> underfunded AmTrack instead.
> >> 
> >> The rail system should have been nationalized during WWi and operated like 
> >> the highway system, with the rail companies operating the trains and the 
> >> rails being owned and operated by the Federal government (like highways).  
> >> Rail companies paid highway fuel tax on diesel fuel into the 1980s, 
> >> directly subsidizing their competition.
> >> 
> >> To give you an idea of how crazy the rail system is, the 20th Century 
> >> Limited from New York to Chicago passed over the rails owned and 
> >> maintained by something like 175 railroad companies, some of which owned 
> >> less the 20 miles of track and had not owned equipment since the early 
> >> teens.
> >> 
> >> Shear lunacy.  This includes the fact that for many years going west of 
> >> the Mississippi River required going through Chicago, even if you were 
> >> going from New Orleans to Alberquerque.  All the rails were laid by 
> >> private companies for whatever they were doing in the mid to late 1800s, 
> >> and in those days everything in the West (since it was almost all cattle 
> >> being shipped for export) went to Chicago.  Once the local companies 
> >> serving smaller cities dropped passenger service you have to take one of 
> >> the big lines (if they still had service) and they all ran through 
> >> Chicago.  Take a look at the railroad maps sometime if you don't believe 
> >> me.
> >> 
> >> If I could take a train from Evansville to St. Louis I'd get to visit my 
> >> niece and nephew a lot more, and could have take my Mom some years longer 
> >> than we could in a car.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Electric Vehicles On Collision Course With Reality

2021-07-03 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It also points out the folly of massive centralized systems. When one plant
goes down, too many are left without power (which most of us depend on for
daily life). We need efficient local (in my backyard) power generation
systems - decentralized power (thorium reactors, anyone?). You can then
produce the power you need, when you need it. Combine solar, wind, whatever
with the fossil fuel of your choice.
Efficiency is the key - the current home generators burn too much fuel for
the power they produce. There
There's an opportunity here for someone smart enough to figure it out.

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 10:00 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Billions of government support dollars have been thrown at solar, wind, and
> other alternate energy systems. Those government free money dollars
> produced more solar farms, wind farms, and programs to build more. However,
> each system to date has a fatal flaw. That flaw being, the wind doesn't
> always blow the same speed, the sun doesn't always shine at night or in ice
> storms, and the energy produced has no way to be stored to be used "on
> demand" after it is produced... There are no huge city sized batteries to
> plug your Prius into.
> Add to that, the transmission systems for power are old, and tired, and
> have not been updated or maintained. At current capacity, they are
> routinely at or near overloaded.
> Vulnerable, is the word that comes to mind. So, if you really want an
> "electric only utopia" start building the support structure that will
> support it. Or, learn to like fossil fuels.
> I know, reality bites...
>
> On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 4:40 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > One of the things I’ve heard of late and agree with is that the
> > infrastructure to support charging at a scale that some are attempting to
> > envision just doesn’t exist and probably never will.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 2, 2021, at 10:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Am I being too simplistic to wonder what will happen when all the cars
> > are electric (green wet dream) and all other consumer
> electronic/electrical
> > devices depend on plug in 110v for charging?  Seems to me, when that kind
> > of demand hits, the solar and wind farms will be woefully unable to
> > adequate;'fill the need?
> > >
> > > tia,
> > > Larry
> > > 06 S350..
> > >
> > > On 7/2/2021 8:07 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> No, the freight rail issue was the railroads trying to get a monopoly
> > and shut everyone else down.  Huge shipping rate wars resulted in the
> > collapse of the rail beds and operations because they weren't making
> enough
> > money, in spite of being able to legally cooperate on setting rates.
> > Corporate stupidity.  Bankrupted the New York Central after they bought
> > everyone else on the East Coast, leaving the nation with NO freight rail
> > until the Feds stepped in, and killed the passenger service.  We got the
> > grossly underfunded AmTrack instead.
> > >>
> > >> The rail system should have been nationalized during WWi and operated
> > like the highway system, with the rail companies operating the trains and
> > the rails being owned and operated by the Federal government (like
> > highways).  Rail companies paid highway fuel tax on diesel fuel into the
> > 1980s, directly subsidizing their competition.
> > >>
> > >> To give you an idea of how crazy the rail system is, the 20th Century
> > Limited from New York to Chicago passed over the rails owned and
> maintained
> > by something like 175 railroad companies, some of which owned less the 20
> > miles of track and had not owned equipment since the early teens.
> > >>
> > >> Shear lunacy.  This includes the fact that for many years going west
> of
> > the Mississippi River required going through Chicago, even if you were
> > going from New Orleans to Alberquerque.  All the rails were laid by
> private
> > companies for whatever they were doing in the mid to late 1800s, and in
> > those days everything in the West (since it was almost all cattle being
> > shipped for export) went to Chicago.  Once the local companies serving
> > smaller cities dropped passenger service you have to take one of the big
> > lines (if they still had service) and they all ran through Chicago.
> Take a
> > look at the railroad maps sometime if you don't believe me.
> > >>
> > >> If I could take a train from Evansville to St. Louis I'd get to visit
> > my niece and nephew a lot more, and could have take my Mom some years
> > longer than we could in a car.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Electric Vehicles On Collision Course With Reality

2021-07-03 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Billions of government support dollars have been thrown at solar, wind, and
other alternate energy systems. Those government free money dollars
produced more solar farms, wind farms, and programs to build more. However,
each system to date has a fatal flaw. That flaw being, the wind doesn't
always blow the same speed, the sun doesn't always shine at night or in ice
storms, and the energy produced has no way to be stored to be used "on
demand" after it is produced... There are no huge city sized batteries to
plug your Prius into.
Add to that, the transmission systems for power are old, and tired, and
have not been updated or maintained. At current capacity, they are
routinely at or near overloaded.
Vulnerable, is the word that comes to mind. So, if you really want an
"electric only utopia" start building the support structure that will
support it. Or, learn to like fossil fuels.
I know, reality bites...

On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 4:40 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> One of the things I’ve heard of late and agree with is that the
> infrastructure to support charging at a scale that some are attempting to
> envision just doesn’t exist and probably never will.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jul 2, 2021, at 10:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Am I being too simplistic to wonder what will happen when all the cars
> are electric (green wet dream) and all other consumer electronic/electrical
> devices depend on plug in 110v for charging?  Seems to me, when that kind
> of demand hits, the solar and wind farms will be woefully unable to
> adequate;'fill the need?
> >
> > tia,
> > Larry
> > 06 S350..
> >
> > On 7/2/2021 8:07 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
> >> No, the freight rail issue was the railroads trying to get a monopoly
> and shut everyone else down.  Huge shipping rate wars resulted in the
> collapse of the rail beds and operations because they weren't making enough
> money, in spite of being able to legally cooperate on setting rates.
> Corporate stupidity.  Bankrupted the New York Central after they bought
> everyone else on the East Coast, leaving the nation with NO freight rail
> until the Feds stepped in, and killed the passenger service.  We got the
> grossly underfunded AmTrack instead.
> >>
> >> The rail system should have been nationalized during WWi and operated
> like the highway system, with the rail companies operating the trains and
> the rails being owned and operated by the Federal government (like
> highways).  Rail companies paid highway fuel tax on diesel fuel into the
> 1980s, directly subsidizing their competition.
> >>
> >> To give you an idea of how crazy the rail system is, the 20th Century
> Limited from New York to Chicago passed over the rails owned and maintained
> by something like 175 railroad companies, some of which owned less the 20
> miles of track and had not owned equipment since the early teens.
> >>
> >> Shear lunacy.  This includes the fact that for many years going west of
> the Mississippi River required going through Chicago, even if you were
> going from New Orleans to Alberquerque.  All the rails were laid by private
> companies for whatever they were doing in the mid to late 1800s, and in
> those days everything in the West (since it was almost all cattle being
> shipped for export) went to Chicago.  Once the local companies serving
> smaller cities dropped passenger service you have to take one of the big
> lines (if they still had service) and they all ran through Chicago.  Take a
> look at the railroad maps sometime if you don't believe me.
> >>
> >> If I could take a train from Evansville to St. Louis I'd get to visit
> my niece and nephew a lot more, and could have take my Mom some years
> longer than we could in a car.
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[MBZ] Doesn't look too bad -- 2000 Mercedes E320 Wagon - $1, 995 (West Ashley)

2021-07-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/d/charleston-2000-mercedes-e320-wagon/7345406802.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Element dead again

2021-07-03 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Those have a cult following, so should be an easy sell, fixed or not.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jul 3, 2021 12:10:16 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes :

> Well that didn't last long. Element transmission quit on me again today. 
> Fortunately I was able to roll off the road in a safe place and call son to 
> come with the tow chain and pull me home.
> 
> Now have to make that "fix it or scrap it" decision. I'm not crazy about the 
> car, but it is in pretty good shape otherwise. Engine runs well, AC works 
> well, in acceptable cosmetic condition, and it's a pretty useful car as far 
> as interior space and utility. 215k miles on it though.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] "balance shaft" problem M272/M273 engines

2021-07-03 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
You probably know this, hyper-v is the windows version of a virtual machine.

Can you save off your date, delete win 10 and reinstall?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jul 2, 2021 11:09:40 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes :

> I bought a set of DVDs like that for my '06 E350 Gasser - it runs on VMWare 
> and initially it ran fine on my Win10 Home system until a Win Update did 
> something I don't understand. Since that update, I get an error saying VMWare 
> is not compatible with Hyper-V.  Research says W10 Home does not   come with 
> Hyper-V and since it is not supposed to be included with Win10 Home, there is 
> little documentation telling how to disable it.  So I technically have a WSM, 
> I am unable to run it any longer.   So far, I have been unsuccessful finding 
> alternative SW to run the VM files on anything else  if only they had put 
> them on pdf's
> 
> Do'ncha jus' love MS?     +++
> Larry
>  W211 E350
> 
> 
> On 6/22/2021 8:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> I found the link on a sticky post on 164s on benzworld.
>> 
>> You can buy a set of DVDs on eBay From various sellers for $15 that has the 
>> WIS/EPC. It’s a PITA to get installed and is kinda funky to run As it 
>> requires a VM in Windows (included in the install) but all the details are 
>> in there.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 4:32 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Probably. How did you find the one that you found? Is the WIS included in 
>>> the cheep cheep chinee star system?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: June 22, 2021 3:26 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] "balance shaft" problem M272/M273 engines
>>> 
>>> I did that too, some useful stuff, looks like mostly for his later model 
>>> cars. It looks like he is using his website as a library but all the docs 
>>> are not linked off the main page. I wonder if most of it came from the WIS.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 22, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I did a search for pdf files on the website. I sure wish they were 
 indexed. There's a lot.
 
 Pdf site:benzbits.com
 
 
 Rick
 
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: June 22, 2021 9:48 AM
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com
 Subject: [MBZ] "balance shaft" problem M272/M273 engines
 
 Details on the cam/balance shaft issue with 350 engines,  If you're out
 of warranty you're...
 
 Remove / install balance shaft, replace if necessary (engine 272 removed)
 
 Equipped with M272 or M273 Engine Check Engine Light On / Fault Codes
 Current and/or Stored in ME-SFI Control Module / Oil Leaking at Camshaft
 Adjustment Solenoid
 
 
 This is due to the positioning of the timing chain driven camshafts
 relative to the crankshaft and can be caused by a worn sprocket on the
 balance shaft on engine M272 or by a worn guide (idler) gear for the
 timing chain on engine M273.
 
 https://benzbits.com/BalanceShaftTSB.pdf
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Element dead again

2021-07-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Sell as is or fix and then sell and buy a real car like a Mercedes w123 or w124 
or even a w211. If you need to haul stuff get a wagon version. Life is too 
short to drive garbage!

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> On Jul 3, 2021, at 12:10 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Well that didn't last long. Element transmission quit on me again today. 
> Fortunately I was able to roll off the road in a safe place and call son to 
> come with the tow chain and pull me home.
> 
> Now have to make that "fix it or scrap it" decision. I'm not crazy about the 
> car, but it is in pretty good shape otherwise. Engine runs well, AC works 
> well, in acceptable cosmetic condition, and it's a pretty useful car as far 
> as interior space and utility. 215k miles on it though.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Electric Vehicles On Collision Course With Reality

2021-07-03 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
One of the things I’ve heard of late and agree with is that the infrastructure 
to support charging at a scale that some are attempting to envision just 
doesn’t exist and probably never will.

-D


> On Jul 2, 2021, at 10:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Am I being too simplistic to wonder what will happen when all the cars are 
> electric (green wet dream) and all other consumer electronic/electrical 
> devices depend on plug in 110v for charging?  Seems to me, when that kind of 
> demand hits, the solar and wind farms will be woefully unable to 
> adequate;'fill the need?
> 
> tia,
> Larry
> 06 S350..
> 
> On 7/2/2021 8:07 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>> No, the freight rail issue was the railroads trying to get a monopoly and 
>> shut everyone else down.  Huge shipping rate wars resulted in the collapse 
>> of the rail beds and operations because they weren't making enough money, in 
>> spite of being able to legally cooperate on setting rates.  Corporate 
>> stupidity.  Bankrupted the New York Central after they bought everyone else 
>> on the East Coast, leaving the nation with NO freight rail until the Feds 
>> stepped in, and killed the passenger service.  We got the grossly 
>> underfunded AmTrack instead.
>> 
>> The rail system should have been nationalized during WWi and operated like 
>> the highway system, with the rail companies operating the trains and the 
>> rails being owned and operated by the Federal government (like highways).  
>> Rail companies paid highway fuel tax on diesel fuel into the 1980s, directly 
>> subsidizing their competition.
>> 
>> To give you an idea of how crazy the rail system is, the 20th Century 
>> Limited from New York to Chicago passed over the rails owned and maintained 
>> by something like 175 railroad companies, some of which owned less the 20 
>> miles of track and had not owned equipment since the early teens.
>> 
>> Shear lunacy.  This includes the fact that for many years going west of the 
>> Mississippi River required going through Chicago, even if you were going 
>> from New Orleans to Alberquerque.  All the rails were laid by private 
>> companies for whatever they were doing in the mid to late 1800s, and in 
>> those days everything in the West (since it was almost all cattle being 
>> shipped for export) went to Chicago.  Once the local companies serving 
>> smaller cities dropped passenger service you have to take one of the big 
>> lines (if they still had service) and they all ran through Chicago.  Take a 
>> look at the railroad maps sometime if you don't believe me.
>> 
>> If I could take a train from Evansville to St. Louis I'd get to visit my 
>> niece and nephew a lot more, and could have take my Mom some years longer 
>> than we could in a car.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Element dead again

2021-07-03 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
With used vehicle prices sky high right now, it makes the decision to repair a 
bit easier.


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Element dead again

Well that didn't last long. Element transmission quit on me again today. 
Fortunately I was able to roll off the road in a safe place and call son to 
come with the tow chain and pull me home.

Now have to make that "fix it or scrap it" decision. I'm not crazy about the 
car, but it is in pretty good shape otherwise. Engine runs well, AC works well, 
in acceptable cosmetic condition, and it's a pretty useful car as far as 
interior space and utility. 215k miles on it though.

Allan
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