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Re: [MBZ] Perhaps I need to get this w109?

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Already pending 

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> On Apr 25, 2023, at 9:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> Interesting.  Since the steering wheel appears to be intact there is a
> chance the car was not abused.  Not a fan of velour seats as they soak up
> cigarette smoke like a sponge.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Perhaps I need to get this w109?

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Interesting.  Since the steering wheel appears to be intact there is a
chance the car was not abused.  Not a fan of velour seats as they soak up
cigarette smoke like a sponge.

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[MBZ] Green land shark

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Re: [MBZ] Need an almost 500hp reasonable priced family car? Here you go

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The V12 Guy designed and builds his own coils so yeah they’re better. The 
coilovers are NOT an upgrade. 

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> On Apr 25, 2023, at 9:03 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Are the coil packs an actual upgrade?
> I'm guessing the suspension mods are not.
> Mitch.
> 
> "Some of the typical problem features have been fixed- the ABC hydraulic 
> suspension system has been disabled and a Strutmaster kit with conventional 
> struts/springs has been installed. The coil packs on both cylinder banks have 
> been replaced with ones from v12icpack.com."
> 
> 
>> On 2023-04-24 23:08, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> N.b. "possible" flood damage
>> https://peoria.craigslist.org/cto/d/tremont-2006-mercedes-s600-v12-turbo/7614096960.html
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Re: [MBZ] Need an almost 500hp reasonable priced family car? Here you go

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Are the coil packs an actual upgrade?
I'm guessing the suspension mods are not.
Mitch.

"Some of the typical problem features have been fixed- the ABC hydraulic 
suspension system has been disabled and a Strutmaster kit with 
conventional struts/springs has been installed. The coil packs on both 
cylinder banks have been replaced with ones from v12icpack.com."



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N.b. "possible" flood damage

https://peoria.craigslist.org/cto/d/tremont-2006-mercedes-s600-v12-turbo/7614096960.html



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Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues

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Yeah so far I like my W211 but the complexity is somewhat offputting. Probably 
won't buy anything newer than a W126 going forward.



On Tue, Apr 25, 2023, at 19:54, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> yes I wondered about my w211. Firing up the CD this week now that winter is
> over
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:47 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Totally agree, but even a car as “new” as a W211, or a W210 for that
>> matter, can have similar problems as they use EIS much like the GL500 does.
>>
>> I love my ML550, but I do have reservations about it from that standpoint.
>> That being said, EIS issues are pretty rare, but when they do crop up
>> you’re pretty much screwed unless you go with an aftermarket repair option.
>>
>> I do agree with Jim, though. In another 5-10 years many of these cars will
>> go straight to the crusher when they die, as they will be unrepairable.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> > On Apr 25, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > yes no new Mercedes for me
>> > . my 2005 w211 is as far as I will stretch.
>> > miss my w124 300D 2.5T
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:07 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yup, even G-wagens are disposable. I’m not interested in ever buying a
>> >> modern Mercedes.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
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>> >>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 11:19 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> 
>> 
>>  The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not
>> >> repairable...
>> >>>
>> >>> Expect more and more of this as time goes on.  Vehicles continue to
>> >> climb in cost and complexity,
>> >>> and their service life (in years) gets shorter and shorter.
>> >>>
>> >>> 'Barn finds' will eventually become 100% liabilities, rather than
>> assets.
>> >>>
>> >>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

yes I wondered about my w211. Firing up the CD this week now that winter is
over

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:47 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Totally agree, but even a car as “new” as a W211, or a W210 for that
> matter, can have similar problems as they use EIS much like the GL500 does.
>
> I love my ML550, but I do have reservations about it from that standpoint.
> That being said, EIS issues are pretty rare, but when they do crop up
> you’re pretty much screwed unless you go with an aftermarket repair option.
>
> I do agree with Jim, though. In another 5-10 years many of these cars will
> go straight to the crusher when they die, as they will be unrepairable.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 25, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > yes no new Mercedes for me
> > . my 2005 w211 is as far as I will stretch.
> > miss my w124 300D 2.5T
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:07 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yup, even G-wagens are disposable. I’m not interested in ever buying a
> >> modern Mercedes.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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> >>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 11:19 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> 
>  The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not
> >> repairable...
> >>>
> >>> Expect more and more of this as time goes on.  Vehicles continue to
> >> climb in cost and complexity,
> >>> and their service life (in years) gets shorter and shorter.
> >>>
> >>> 'Barn finds' will eventually become 100% liabilities, rather than
> assets.
> >>>
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[MBZ] Perhaps I need to get this w109?

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Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues

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They say while they don’t absolutely need the ignition switch, the results will 
be better if they have it so that everything is synchronized.

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> On Apr 25, 2023, at 7:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No they just need the ecu. 
> 
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>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 5:09 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>> 
>> They want the ignition switch and key too. I wonder how difficult it will 
>> be to remove the ignition switch.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Get on ebay and find the exact part number of your old ECU, or 
>>> car-part.com.  After you get the new one, get back on ebay and find a 
>>> seller doing ECU cloning.  You send them the old one and the used one you 
>>> bought and they clone it and ship it back to you.  Here is one I am looking 
>>> at with this CLK that I think also needs a ECU.
>>> 
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/125881244257
>>> 
>>> 
> On 4/24/2023 7:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
 My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed 
 at a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was 
 incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them 
 doing it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car 
 was there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no longer 
 start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was destroyed 
 from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the 
 car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The insurance 
 company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to fix it.
 
 I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had 
 limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but that 
 I need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch and the 
 key and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using the data 
 from the old one. Is this my only option?
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues

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No they just need the ecu. 

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> On Apr 25, 2023, at 5:09 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> They want the ignition switch and key too. I wonder how difficult it will be 
> to remove the ignition switch.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Get on ebay and find the exact part number of your old ECU, or 
>> car-part.com.  After you get the new one, get back on ebay and find a seller 
>> doing ECU cloning.  You send them the old one and the used one you bought 
>> and they clone it and ship it back to you.  Here is one I am looking at with 
>> this CLK that I think also needs a ECU.
>> 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/125881244257
>> 
>> 
 On 4/24/2023 7:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>>> My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed 
>>> at a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was 
>>> incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them 
>>> doing it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car 
>>> was there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no longer 
>>> start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was destroyed 
>>> from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the 
>>> car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The insurance 
>>> company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to fix it.
>>> 
>>> I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had 
>>> limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but that 
>>> I need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch and the 
>>> key and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using the data 
>>> from the old one. Is this my only option?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues

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Yes

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> On Apr 25, 2023, at 5:08 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if this will be a plug and play situation once I get the 
> reprogrammed ecu back.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 24, 2023, at 9:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dealers don’t want to fool with 1) old cars and 2) cloning electronics (esp 
>> with used stuff) because they likely have no one who can do it and can’t 
>> guarantee it. 
>> 
>> Yeah you need to find the exact ECU then send both off to an outfit that can 
>> do the cloning. There’s a bunch around that advertise on eBay and have parts 
>> and services. I think one is called ECUTUNING or something like that. Most 
>> are in California it appears but there are a coupla others around. I think 
>> it’s like $3-400 or so. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> But the dealer claims that they don’t want to do it because they won’t 
>>> install a used ECU. Is it just this dealer? Will another dealer do it?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 I believe so. They need to clone the data from the old ECU so it will 
 play nice with everything else. This is especially important for the EIS 
 system, which is why they want those parts all together. They have to be 
 coded together as a group, you can’t just swap one out from the junkyard 
 or recode one without recoding all of the other parts.
 
 At least that’s the way it’s been explained to me, and why I avoid any car 
 that’s got EIS issues. It’s something the dealer has to do.
 
 -D
 
>> On Apr 24, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed 
> at a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was 
> incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them 
> doing it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car 
> was there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no 
> longer start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was 
> destroyed from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA 
> and that the car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The 
> insurance company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to 
> fix it.
> 
> I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had 
> limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but 
> that I need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch 
> and the key and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using 
> the data from the old one. Is this my only option?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues

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Totally agree, but even a car as “new” as a W211, or a W210 for that matter, 
can have similar problems as they use EIS much like the GL500 does.

I love my ML550, but I do have reservations about it from that standpoint. That 
being said, EIS issues are pretty rare, but when they do crop up you’re pretty 
much screwed unless you go with an aftermarket repair option.

I do agree with Jim, though. In another 5-10 years many of these cars will go 
straight to the crusher when they die, as they will be unrepairable.

-D

> On Apr 25, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> yes no new Mercedes for me
> . my 2005 w211 is as far as I will stretch.
> miss my w124 300D 2.5T
> 
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:07 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yup, even G-wagens are disposable. I’m not interested in ever buying a
>> modern Mercedes.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 11:19 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 
 The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not
>> repairable...
>>> 
>>> Expect more and more of this as time goes on.  Vehicles continue to
>> climb in cost and complexity,
>>> and their service life (in years) gets shorter and shorter.
>>> 
>>> 'Barn finds' will eventually become 100% liabilities, rather than assets.
>>> 
>>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues

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yes no new Mercedes for me
. my 2005 w211 is as far as I will stretch.
miss my w124 300D 2.5T

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> Yup, even G-wagens are disposable. I’m not interested in ever buying a
> modern Mercedes.
>
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> >
> > 
> >>
> >> The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not
> repairable...
> >
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> > and their service life (in years) gets shorter and shorter.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues

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They want the ignition switch and key too. I wonder how difficult it will be to 
remove the ignition switch.

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> On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Get on ebay and find the exact part number of your old ECU, or car-part.com. 
>  After you get the new one, get back on ebay and find a seller doing ECU 
> cloning.  You send them the old one and the used one you bought and they 
> clone it and ship it back to you.  Here is one I am looking at with this CLK 
> that I think also needs a ECU.
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/125881244257
> 
> 
>> On 4/24/2023 7:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed at 
>> a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was 
>> incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them doing 
>> it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car was 
>> there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no longer 
>> start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was destroyed 
>> from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the 
>> car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The insurance 
>> company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to fix it.
>> 
>> I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had 
>> limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but that I 
>> need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch and the key 
>> and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using the data from 
>> the old one. Is this my only option?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues

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I wonder if this will be a plug and play situation once I get the reprogrammed 
ecu back.

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> On Apr 24, 2023, at 9:46 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dealers don’t want to fool with 1) old cars and 2) cloning electronics (esp 
> with used stuff) because they likely have no one who can do it and can’t 
> guarantee it. 
> 
> Yeah you need to find the exact ECU then send both off to an outfit that can 
> do the cloning. There’s a bunch around that advertise on eBay and have parts 
> and services. I think one is called ECUTUNING or something like that. Most 
> are in California it appears but there are a coupla others around. I think 
> it’s like $3-400 or so. 
> 
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>> On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> But the dealer claims that they don’t want to do it because they won’t 
>> install a used ECU. Is it just this dealer? Will another dealer do it?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On Apr 24, 2023, at 8:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I believe so. They need to clone the data from the old ECU so it will play 
>>> nice with everything else. This is especially important for the EIS system, 
>>> which is why they want those parts all together. They have to be coded 
>>> together as a group, you can’t just swap one out from the junkyard or 
>>> recode one without recoding all of the other parts.
>>> 
>>> At least that’s the way it’s been explained to me, and why I avoid any car 
>>> that’s got EIS issues. It’s something the dealer has to do.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Apr 24, 2023, at 5:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 My mom’s 2005 G500 was involved in an accident in September. It was fixed 
 at a body shop recommended by the local MB dealer. The body shop was 
 incompetent and didn’t repair it properly- I basically gave up on them 
 doing it right after multiple attempts to correct their mistakes. The car 
 was there for 5 months and at the end they claimed the car would no longer 
 start. They took it to the dealer who claimed that the ecu was destroyed 
 from water intrusion. The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the 
 car is not repairable as they cannot install used parts. The insurance 
 company then totaled the car. We bought it back and now have to fix it.
 
 I’m not sure how to proceed here. I called around for a used ecu and had 
 limited success. One place- ecuteam.com claims that they have one but that 
 I need to send them the old nonfunctional ecu, the ignition switch and the 
 key and then they can program and synchronize the used ecu using the data 
 from the old one. Is this my only option?
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues

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Yup, even G-wagens are disposable. I’m not interested in ever buying a modern 
Mercedes.

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> On Apr 25, 2023, at 11:19 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not repairable...
> 
> Expect more and more of this as time goes on.  Vehicles continue to climb in 
> cost and complexity,
> and their service life (in years) gets shorter and shorter.
> 
> 'Barn finds' will eventually become 100% liabilities, rather than assets.
> 
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[MBZ] 2002 E320 hovercraft wagon miles

[RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes]

Folks

The funky cluster display in the hovercraft shows 323k approximately 

The car is tight and drives well

Xx r

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Re: [MBZ] Knock 50% Off...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Does not seem an outrageous priced for lowish miles and it looks 
decent.  I'd negotiate around the AC issue.


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On 4/25/23 5:39 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Guess it would help to include the link:

https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/sarasota-1999-mercedes-e430/7614348333.html

-D


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…and maybe, just maybe it’s worth it.

Ask Kaleb - the W210/E430 is a sleeper with the V8.

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Re: [MBZ] Knock 50% Off...

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Guess it would help to include the link:

https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/sarasota-1999-mercedes-e430/7614348333.html

-D

> On Apr 25, 2023, at 2:35 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> …and maybe, just maybe it’s worth it.
> 
> Ask Kaleb - the W210/E430 is a sleeper with the V8.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon Mileage Champ

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Doubt it.

CarFax maintenance records are spotty, at best, because they rely on service 
providers to self report. I would want to see the owner’s service records and a 
VMI. If a new engine was installed in 2000, it was likely done by a dealer 
under a warranty or recall campaign, as the car would only have been a year old 
at that time.

Salvage (branded) title immediately kills the value. Paint looks like it might 
be a little sketchy, too.

-D

> On Apr 25, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Carfax report should reveal this, unless he did his own maintenance/repairs.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 5:31 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> 
>> I wonder what work it has had done along the way to that number?
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> 
>> On 25/04/2023 4:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 409,495/23= 17,800 miles/yr.  Not unimaginable.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 3:49 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Certainly speaks to the ruggedness of these models. W210, the
 Corolla/Camry of Mercedes.
 
 -D
 
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 That’s a crap ton of miles. I’d love to see the seats.
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/903917643997181/
 
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[MBZ] Knock 50% Off...

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

…and maybe, just maybe it’s worth it.

Ask Kaleb - the W210/E430 is a sleeper with the V8.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon Mileage Champ

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Carfax report should reveal this, unless he did his own maintenance/repairs.

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 5:31 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> I wonder what work it has had done along the way to that number?
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 25/04/2023 4:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > 409,495/23= 17,800 miles/yr.  Not unimaginable.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 3:49 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Certainly speaks to the ruggedness of these models. W210, the
> >> Corolla/Camry of Mercedes.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >> On Apr 25, 2023, at 10:52 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> That’s a crap ton of miles. I’d love to see the seats.
> >>
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/903917643997181/
> >>
> >> AZBob
> >>
> >>
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[MBZ] PLEASE DON'T ASK IF STILL AVAILABLE! SERIOUSLY INQUIRIES ONLY! 2003 Mercedes-Benz e 500, $1, 250

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This looks like it could be a scam but maybe not.  Could be a good deal 
if it is not totally trashed


Belt just broke Car will still start and run. Runs great with 
replacement of the belt.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/110084922069151

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon Mileage Champ

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I wonder what work it has had done along the way to that number?

Randy


On 25/04/2023 4:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

409,495/23= 17,800 miles/yr.  Not unimaginable.

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 3:49 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Certainly speaks to the ruggedness of these models. W210, the
Corolla/Camry of Mercedes.

-D

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That’s a crap ton of miles. I’d love to see the seats.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/903917643997181/

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon Mileage Champ

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409,495/23= 17,800 miles/yr.  Not unimaginable.

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> Certainly speaks to the ruggedness of these models. W210, the
> Corolla/Camry of Mercedes.
>
> -D
>
> On Apr 25, 2023, at 10:52 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> That’s a crap ton of miles. I’d love to see the seats.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/903917643997181/
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Re: [MBZ] Wagon Mileage Champ

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Certainly speaks to the ruggedness of these models. W210, the Corolla/Camry of 
Mercedes.

-D

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mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

That’s a crap ton of miles. I’d love to see the seats.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/903917643997181/

AZBob

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[MBZ] Wagon Mileage Champ

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That’s a crap ton of miles. I’d love to see the seats. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/903917643997181/ AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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[MBZ] 2008 GL550 - 155k miles - $8,900

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Looks nice, one concern from that area is salt.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/d/schererville-2008-mercedes-gl550/7614191547.html
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Re: [MBZ] never got around to filing lost title 2004 Mercedes-Benz other, $1, 800

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The blinker fluid dries up.

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023, at 08:40, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> You know how those bulbs go bad from just sitting around…
>
> -D
>
>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 6:35 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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>> Drives smoothed needs brakes Fast Might need new light bulbs from sitting
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Unbelievable SUV 2007 Mercedes-Benz gl 320 cdi,$5,000

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Is that Provenance or a Red Flag?

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> This looks like the Hoovie/Kleb GL
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Re: [MBZ] G500 ECU issues

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> The dealer claimed that the ecu is NLA and that the car is not repairable...

Expect more and more of this as time goes on.  Vehicles continue to climb in 
cost and complexity,
and their service life (in years) gets shorter and shorter.

'Barn finds' will eventually become 100% liabilities, rather than assets.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Northern lights

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 21:39:53 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> It’s clear here tonight I should see if it’s visible this far south.
> It’s pretty dark out here along the coast away from town

I looked last night, but it was overcast (and an incredible 68%
humidity!).


Craig

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[MBZ] I can only get it cranked by spraying starting fluid for a few second 1985 mercedes 380 - $1, 500 (ROCKY MOUNT)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

previous owner stated it was running about a year ago

https://eastnc.craigslist.org/pts/d/rocky-mount-1985-mercedes-380/7613880759.html

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[MBZ] I could probably get a cold compression test done on it. Mercedes OM617 Engine W123 W126 - $1, 000 (Matthews)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah maybe do that

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/pts/d/matthews-mercedes-om617-engine-w123-w126/7613452443.html

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[MBZ] one for Parts one in ok shape and one in good shape. All have been sitting for years. 61 63 64. 3 Mercedes unimogs - $10, 000 (Moyock)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Bring a flatbed and take em home!

https://norfolk.craigslist.org/pts/d/moyock-mercedes-unimogs/7610844293.html

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[MBZ] This would be a good road rig -- tow big RV/Toy trailer 2000 Freightliner fl60, $55, 000

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/230802082962970


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Re: [MBZ] The body man that was doing it passed away -- E320 -- 2004 Mercedes-Benz e-class, $2, 400

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Shrewd negotiations to follow

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On 4/25/23 9:43 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

With the miles and condition I think there may be too many digits in that ask.

-D


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Could be a reasonably easy project to finish

Firm on price as is or we will finish it for $3800! Car runs Perfect! Hit a 
deer and had to replace the front bumper , radiator, condenser, headlights, and 
only thing left to do is put the grill o. And repair the hood and paint front 
number and good repair!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1590123161475135

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[MBZ] Mercedes 250SE 1967 come from France and in perfect condiction.

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 1967 Mercedes-Benz 250 se

$32,999

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/538823711772109

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Re: [MBZ] The body man that was doing it passed away -- E320 -- 2004 Mercedes-Benz e-class, $2, 400

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With the miles and condition I think there may be too many digits in that ask.

-D

> On Apr 25, 2023, at 6:41 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Could be a reasonably easy project to finish
> 
> Firm on price as is or we will finish it for $3800! Car runs Perfect! Hit a 
> deer and had to replace the front bumper , radiator, condenser, headlights, 
> and only thing left to do is put the grill o. And repair the hood and paint 
> front number and good repair!
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1590123161475135
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Re: [MBZ] never got around to filing lost title 2004 Mercedes-Benz other, $1, 800

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The blinker flood probably leaked out

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On 4/25/23 9:40 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

You know how those bulbs go bad from just sitting around…

-D


On Apr 25, 2023, at 6:35 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
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Drives smoothed needs brakes Fast Might need new light bulbs from sitting

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/179067338402897

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[MBZ] The body man that was doing it passed away -- E320 -- 2004 Mercedes-Benz e-class, $2, 400

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Could be a reasonably easy project to finish

Firm on price as is or we will finish it for $3800! Car runs Perfect! 
Hit a deer and had to replace the front bumper , radiator, condenser, 
headlights, and only thing left to do is put the grill o. And repair the 
hood and paint front number and good repair!


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1590123161475135

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Re: [MBZ] never got around to filing lost title 2004 Mercedes-Benz other, $1, 800

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You know how those bulbs go bad from just sitting around…

-D

> On Apr 25, 2023, at 6:35 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Drives smoothed needs brakes Fast Might need new light bulbs from sitting
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/179067338402897
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[MBZ] Unbelievable SUV 2007 Mercedes-Benz gl 320 cdi,$5,000

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This looks like the Hoovie/Kleb GL

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/193733393479575

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[MBZ] never got around to filing lost title 2004 Mercedes-Benz other, $1, 800

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Drives smoothed needs brakes Fast Might need new light bulbs from sitting

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/179067338402897

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[MBZ] Title in hand tag fee $100 2006 Mercedes-Benz r 500,$3,000

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looks half decent, what's with "tag fee"?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/278460731174699

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[MBZ] 2006 e350 benz wagon runs n drive good just needs suspension work $1, 200

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Suspension easy enough to deal with but the engine is likely bad too.  
And the pics are awful


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[MBZ] manual 5 speed transmission swapped 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300d Sedan 4D, $8, 300

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looks nice

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/774942880642052

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Re: [MBZ] Need an almost 500hp reasonable priced family car? Here you go

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Maybe $3k if it checks out in regards to the salvage aspect 

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> On Apr 24, 2023, at 11:09 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> N.b. "possible" flood damage
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