Hey Kaleb,
I hooked up my Alpine CD changer this morning. For some reason, the
wiring was a little different than yours. But it;s pretty straight-forward
and for the most part only goes together one way.
It was a great feeling when I pushed MOD and the screen said CD1. ;-D
Howdy,
I finally have a working CD Changer for my '91 Mercedes (long story) -
it attaches to the amp tuner in the trunk so I need to mount it somewhere
back there. Under the hat-rack would be the best place, but other options
will be considered.
I'd like to minimize CD skipping if
really liked having the changer in that car. It was
the one Becker radio that I truly enjoyed - probably
because the changer gave me options beyond the crappy
FM section...
Dan
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Howdy,
I finally have a working CD Changer for my '91
Mercedes (long story
I agree - although I'd like a MB SUV with a diesel engine ;-) - that V12
W140 is at the top of my list when I win the lottery - until then,
fergetaboutit. Way to expensive maintanence IMHO. And I'd prefer a W140
over the newest S class - the design of which I find odd.
There's a similar
I had a lady call me Saturday asking about an Oil Analysis kit - seems
her 2000 Chrysler 300M's engine has a 1 dia hole in the block. She bought
it 2 years ago from a Chrysler as a Certified Pre-Owned Used Chrysler
which had th 120 point checklist and she bought the 2 year warranty which
Don't know how different the 603 is from the 602 which I have, but when I
removed the intake man from mine I bought extra long allen wrenches from
http://www.wihatools.com/indexes/indx_ballhex.htm - I got the ones with the
rounded end so it doesn't have to be perfectly aligned to
, June 25, 2007 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tappet noise - and oil level compared to W123
LarryT wrote:
Like you, she said the oil was like colored water when her mechanic
drained it.Naturally, she wanted to have it analyzed to see what it
would tell.
I assume your kits test viscosity
Howdy,
Don't have one of those - but my Dad gave me a Leica he bought in the
early 50s. I used it in my 4 years of what used to be called Graphic Arts -
which at the time (late 60s) consisted of Photography, Offset Press,
Letterpress and Silk Screening cloth.
I still have it - but
Hi Ken,
The compression is pretty good.. Typically you want the lowest value to be
within 10% of the others - which you are.
Is it possible the IP timing changed?
Does it do this when warm or only when cold?
My 91 300D 2.5T did something similar - but it was intermittant. It would
smoke
Hey Gary,
This is a new type of scam (fairly new, I guess) where the seller claims
the car is overseas and is too expensive to title/register/insure and drive
so they want to sell ship it back. I went into this with a '97 Porsche
993 Cabr offered for $30k incl shipping to a city near the
You need a notarized statement from the leinholder stating the lein has been
satisfied. Otherwise, it's doubtful the title will transfer. if for some
reason it does transfer, the title holder will own 1st claim to car you
could end up being on the hook for the lein -
Naturally this kind of
Hi Randy,
Slide the knife between metal door frame and the door panel - until you
hit one of the snap-in pins - with a slight pressure against the plastic peg
you can turn the putty knife - although I use a Oyster knife. You cannot
avoid pressing on the panel completrely, but by having the
I don't believe the diaphrams are available seperately - have always replace
the assy -
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- Original Message -
From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing
LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED
Thanks Dan! Excellent description of how it works! Would love to see add'l
info for the W124 --
BTW, when you're looking for leaks, where are you opening the Tee's for
testing? At the main junction in the Passenger footwell? If so, I guess
you watch to see which door lock opens/ or closes
I think you will find the vast majority of people have no idea what age
a MB is. My '78 240D has all of its parts, a beautiful paint job which I
keep clean and waxed and have had several people ask if it's new! It's 30
freakin' years old! Jeez... Also, I worked with a guy - reasonably
But you'll be very happy with it. You will not find any flaws (or
shouldn't) and will look at it with pride of ownership you would never have
if you tried to do it yourself. You might do something like this once every
15-20 years while the pro's do 2 or 3 a *day*!!
That's the only way you
in SO CA.just
in
case I ever need it.
On 6/28/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But you'll be very happy with it. You will not find any flaws (or
shouldn't) and will look at it with pride of ownership you would never
have
if you tried to do it yourself. You might do something like
I don't think you need to play with the IP *unless* there's a reason to
suspect it has changed without help from you or a technician - if youfound
the hold down bolts loose then it may have changed, but if it's the same it
was when it ran good, I woud not think it changed without help. Uness
James, If you dont want to tear into the injectors yourself - all yellow
pages usually have at least 1 Bosch authorized service center - if you don;t
see one (look under engines), look under truck servicing - most will work on
the small diesels also -
If you still can't find one, contact me
Sunil askedlike a 124 - how do terrorists have style?
I agree it was a 124 - same color as mine - but they don't have style - it
wasn't a diesel! ;-)
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Ya'll wrote:uninstalled Office 2007, and
re-installed Office 2003.
If it's not broke why fix it?
Indeed.
You *know* the answer - they have to find a reason to get users of Office
95, O97, O'00, etc to spend $100, $200 or nore to upgrade. The only reason
to upgrade anymore is features now that
Some comments about the terrorists using MB for bombs - some mentioned 5th
Gear buying a MB for ~ $1000 to destroy - and it was mentioned older (but
not real old) MBs are cheap -
I don't understand this - unless it's because of the UKs RH drive? In the
US even W123s and 124s are not what I
I'll wait a year for the bugs to be wiped out - way too many frustrations
for new sw.
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When I lived in the mountains of western MD we had a storm blow thru with
temp around -15f one night - very windy producing a windchill of -90F. It
found a little opening in my basement siding blew against a water pipe
of course froze burst it. Spent most of the day fixing it.
v cold day
Hi Peter,
One plus for buying the correct grease from MB ius it comes in a tube
with the correct amount for 2 wheels - fold the tube in half and cut it
you hve enough for 1 wheel.
I assume the grease Rusty sells are packaged the same way -
Good luck -
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Hi Gary,
Your ideas sound completely plausible to me - expecially considering
events of the recent few years. We seem to be moving farther and farther
away from the Constitution with this crap about it being a living document
that needs to change with the times - Bull - it was fine until
Sorry about my last post - hit send before I saw your cut it out request
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Andrew wrote115 degrees is brutal hot!
Yep. Just like the temp in my oven!! *Very* dry but I wouldn't want to
roam around in there --
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Hi Gary,
IMHO that's the standard MO for Autozone - they're always asking if they
can help as I walk thru the door - asking again if I look confused (which is
often) and always willing to earn their pay.
I'll bet Rusty could use someone like her!?
Take care --
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Hi Bob,
I take it the AC clutch I sent you is operating as promised? ;-)
There're pretty simple, huh?
Happy 4th Of July - viva la revolution!
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It's been glued on all the MBs I've ever owned - 7, ranging from 69 to 91.
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Hi Mike,
;-)
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The people who wrote about their TC failures (at least the 3 or 4 I read)
didn't telll how many miles they had or what the OM told them about when to
change it.
Do you know when the suggested mileage is?
Just curious -
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I think the ongoing search for performance and economy demands the
interference design. Personally, I'd give up a little perf econ for a
engine that would provide an assurance that a TC failure would leave you
on the side of the road, but not needing a new engine.
Viva The Revolution!
Larry
Tom Allan wrote:Nothing can replace experience when faced with a tough
problem.
VERY few people understand this anymore -- 'specially in the corporate
world.
This goes back to the TQ mentality where only improvements that could be
measured were worth doing. It would be very difficult to
Hi Ken,
If at all possible, I suggest you try to put the IP back where it was
when
you started changing things. There's a specific procedure to check the
chain timing - send me your address and I'll send it to you on a CD. While
a diesel is not rocket science it does require a controlled,
I would choose the Behr as it's OE - unless the price is double or something
silly like that. As far as the other things, it's been sop long I really
can't recall - but I don;t remember how hard it was ---
Can't help with the rest --
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I have a 3 small syringes 1 with ATF, 1 with MMO in it the other with
Mobil 1 10W30 in it.
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Howdy -
By far the biggest part of a paint job is the prep - the biggest part
of the prep is sanding - unless you have a rust bucket, in which case you
need to move on - anyway - sanding is a lengthy job - sand, check the
results, sand some more, repear, repeat, repeat.
I sanding my
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] $50 Paint Job
I agree - where's the savings??
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Howdy -
By far the biggest part of a paint job is the prep - the biggest
part
of the prep is sanding - unless you have a rust bucket, in which
Does the subject mean I have a leak? The AC stopped working this AM, then,
started again this PM.
I think it means air is in the system from a leak - correct? I have R12
BTW. Do any of the aftermarket substitutes work with safety?
Thx --
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The subject talks about buying a domestic car - my experience has been
positive over the last few years. My Mom and M-I-L both lived with us as we
provided them Hospice and both brought cars they valued for us to have. One
was a 92 Olds 98 with 3.8 V6 and other was a 97 Chrysler Concord w/3.5
Thx John (and Jim C),
Youy wrote:three cans on ebay for about $15 a can - is that the R12?
Or a R12 substitute?
Sounds like it's time to get my EPA609 certification to buy -
Thanks! Now, I must decide if I want to risk blending the coolants ;-)
Thanks again!
Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78
While the AMG MB's are pretty fast, they're too heavy to be competitive -
else you'd see them entered in races all over. It's almost impossible to
remove weight from a street car - it's always easier to start from scratch.
The AMG treatment for the V12 is pretty extensive - engine is removed,
Tom wrotethere is fraud and the same is true for freon
You;re so right! I used to work for one of th 2 major chemical companies
who made Freon (so I used to hear about this stuff ) and other R12 products
with other names - just like smuggling cocaine, pot, etc, there's a huge
profit in freon
ok - the jim c. method of blending on the fly - what would
I add to my R12 and how would I do it?
do I have to remove the r12 and fill with the other stuff?
It may be easier to go to the corner mechanic and have a can of R12 put
in --
BTW, I am getting my EPA certification so I can buy some
: Re: [MBZ] Bubbles in AC sight glass? 91 300D 2.5T
LarryT wrote:
I believe the taxes make current legal prices around $850./ pound
Where on earth did you come up with that number? Is that how much it
would cost to buy new R12 manufactured in the US or something? That
certainly isn't
It's possible only 2 or 3 cylinders are firing - due to bad glow plugs - and
once warmed up all start cylinders working as they should. But it;s a
strange situation - especially the manny tran - that 4 cyl is pretty simple.
But the engine will die a long slow death gradually losing more and
an aversion to revving
the engine high. Wish the thing came with a tachometer and I knew the
redline. Yes, I know you supposedly cannot overrev a diesel except for
by downshifting.
Brian
83 240D
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It's possible only 2 or 3 cylinders are firing - due
kevin wrotemuch more hip 240D
Now, I've heard it all! LOL!
Man! with prices like that I may put my 78 240D in the market!
;-)
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My problem using Google Earth is they all seem pretty out of focus - my
neighborhood is a green gray blob.
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Hi Fred,
I bought 2 from Rusty - the 2 rear ones on my 91 300D are bad - the
fittings
are rounded off. Looks like someone used a pair of pliers on them. So, I
spoke with Rusty and he ordered them - one was in stock the other came from
Germany. I was surprised to learn one was no longer
me if
she drove by this place!
On 7/14/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My problem using Google Earth is they all seem pretty out of focus - my
neighborhood is a green gray blob.
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driveway. alas, today, it's crappy old benzes, georgia weeds and lots
of oil stains. if the previous owner weren't dead, she'd kill me if
she drove by this place!
On 7/14/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My problem using Google Earth is they all seem pretty out of focus - my
neighborhood
Hello Scott,
I changed the metal brake lines and the rubber hoses, calipers, rotors,
etc last weekend on my 91 W124. I used 3 flare nut wrenches IIRC - 17mm
13mm for the rubber to metal connection at the chassis a 13mm where the
rubber hose connects to the caliper.
I bought a 5 pc
Hi Tarek,
I was reading your explanation of refrigeration and was thinking WOW! This
is really easy to understand.
Then you started on Carnot cycle and thermodynamic irreversibility and
once again, I was lost, lost, lost.
Oh well, it was a good start -
;-)
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Hi Bill,
The window is pretty easy to replace - at least it was in my W123 78 240D.
Also, I don;t believe that car has the ACC - probably still uses the older
manual system like mine. I had the whole system renewed in mine and it was
$1000 - that was 2 years ago and it still blows so cold I
I would think you would be better off buying a semi-nice W123/W124 for $5k
or so - use it for a year, maintain it and fix what needs fixing then sell
it for what you have in it. Dont go crazy - be as economical as possible
and you may come out ahead. The seret is finding a nice example and
Too much toe out -- need a front end alignment - normally done as a 4 wheel
alignment --
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It's almost *impossible* to find stuff that's *not* made in China!
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We've got our fuel useage down pretty accurately. The manual says the light
comes on when ~2.5 gal remain. My tank (91 300D 2,5t) holds a total of 18g.
Our MPGs is between 28 32 so 2.5g means we go between ~70 80 mi before
we run completely out of fuel - which thankfully hasn't happened
I've become a big fan of 303. I use it on the plastic panels on the MB, all
rubber, it even does a good job on metal. I also found it doesn;t smear of
harm glass when I get overspray on it I can buff it until it polishes out.
Also, it does not contain any silicones which is a big problem when
Hi Ed
`Ed wrote: I LOVE Eagle One leather care - does it have a pleasant
aroma?
Does it smell like Leather or something else?
Thx --
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Just read an interesting article about refinishing seats. SOme of you have
talked about Leatherique, etc and some other methods - this article says the
leather seats are treated very similarily to the paint on the body. For
instance, severe problem areas are sanded to reach good material.
I have a catalog in front of me that came a couple of days ago - what's the
description of the Welder you want?
I'll provide the catalog # and Item # - that should get what you want -
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Just went thru the catalog and found 120 Amp, 230Volt, Flux and Mig Welder
but theprice is shown as $299.99.
I confirmed the prie in Order from cat as $299. Haven't seen anything with
a $170 price. And Iseem to get their flyers and/or catalogs every day or 2.
There's a number of other welders
Depending on the location of the crack you can get oil into the coolant or
coolant in the oil. Also, bubbles in the radiator is possible. Very quick
overheating also -
Those are the most common - IMHO
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Zoltan said:I have in Craftsman. It stood up to it
I like Craftsman for the same reason. Also, a few years ago I found Sears
offers a Pro series of many tools - they;re highly polished, very smooth
chrome wrenches - those are the only tools I;ve noticed to be Pro but I
suspect they offer
Don't have any personal experience, but previous discussions on other lists
have had several people talking about these 12v impact wrenches. here's
one: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92349
not as cumbersome as an X-Wrench and I'm told the torque is
Curt wrote: if you weren't standing over them telling them not to
overtighten
I watched a gas station attendant change my flat - when he was putting the
lug nuts on I told him to tighten them in a criss-cross manner - 2 o'clock,
8 o'clock, 3 o'clock, etc, and he said, Sure!, he said, smiling.
Like ya'll, I had a similar thing happen - forgive if anyone has heard
this story - I was a electricians apprentice working on the USS JFK - in a
small space with a 440V cabinet with 4 big cables sticking out that had been
cut off. The procedure was to tape the cut ends but it had not been
IMHO, This should be standard maintanence for each 10 year anniversary. Or
sooner if mysterious problems arise, as sometimes it *really* is that
simple.
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If you need to buy welding helmet, I suggest you try one of the Instant
Darkening types. I bught one when I got my MIG and the helmet was the
highlight of the deal although the welder works pretty good once the power
and wire feed settings are optimized.
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And put a dab of anti-seize on the threads of the new one.
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Howdy -
I am replacing my rotors calipers on the - 91 300D 2.5t W124 - and
flushing the brake fluid as I bleed the system. I am using a Pressure
Bleeder and maintaining 20 + #'s on the bleeder. I am using Ate Blue
brake fluid so I can tell when fresh fluid has filled the part of the system
I woud have thought pulling a vacuum would remove any existing oil. with
new oil added (IIRC) the same as freon is added.
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the reservoir before
starting.
--Robert
LarryT wrote:
Howdy -
I am replacing my rotors calipers on the - 91
300D 2.5t W124 - and
flushing the brake fluid as I bleed the system.
I am using a Pressure
Bleeder and maintaining 20 + #'s on the bleeder.
I am using Ate Blue
brake fluid so
Thx Dan,
Will give it a try - I have a fresh can of PB Blaster and some vice grips
with nice sharp teeth - but I'm not looking forward to doing all that work
laying on my back! ;-)
Thanks for the suggestions --
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Hi John,
My 602 ('91 300D 2.5t) also seems to wait before it pegs - but I
checked the Owners Manual and it said the Pressure should be pegged by
approx. 3000 RPM. Mine is like yours and pegs at 1600-1800rpm. So,
according to MB it doesn;t seem to be a problem.
I had been using
Howdy -
Our Chiuahuah's (2 of them) love to go everywhere we go - one doesn't
like riding in the car a lot, but she likes staying home even less. The
other one (weighs all of 2.5#s) likes to ride in on the rear hat shelf - I
don't let her stay for long since it's dangerous, but sometimes
I've never bothered with block drains and such - there should be a large
plastic drain plug in the lower front corner of the radiator - remove that
and 99% of the coolant will rush out.
When you remove the water pump there might be a small bit more coolant but
not much (no more than a couple
This may be true of other states, but if you get into Va on the Bue Ridge
PW, check with some of the state parks as they offer beautiful cottages deep
in the forests - some by themselves - with no phones, TV, etc. Some have
outside bathrooms,..err... make that toilet -
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Me Tooo!!
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- Original Message -
From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work
The Auto Parts Store should be able to provide a FedEx Tracking Number so
you can locate the shipment. Without that, it might mean it was never
shipped.
Did you try to call them - or were you using email? In times like this,
the phone is better than email.
You can also check with the
I'd use Simple Green and the garden hose. You should be able to flush it
enough out to get rid of the odor --
Good luck =
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do use the CC for most
payments everywhere.
Regards
mak
- Original Message -
From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] USA trip Parts fraud
The Auto Parts Store should be able
I used Greyhound to ship a front bumper cover for a 911 from Va to Or or Wa
for ~$35 and it arrived in 3 days.It worked well for me. I would think
wheels would be easy this way -
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Unfortunately, about all we can do is tell as many people as possible. I
didn't
get www.eaparts.com to work but maybe it'll work later -
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Exactly!
I do all my own work if at all possible. Some things I don;t do because
of time or tools needed but I find that when I let a professional do the
work it *invariably* comes back with something not done or not properly
done. I''m not talking about 1 or 2 shops, as I try to find
Used prices are traditionally set at 50% of the new cost, or less depending
on availability and supply/demand.
If you are looking for parts at a junk yard you should *always* know the
price of the part new before going in.
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LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Exactly!
I do all my own work if at all possible. Some things I don;t do
because
of time or tools needed but I find that when I let a professional do
the
work it *invariably* comes back with something not done or not properly
done. I''m not talking
Hi Allan,
What is name location of this yard?
Thx -
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From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] u-pull discovery
LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi Allan,
What is name location of this yard?
It is called
IMO, the thing the state os trying to do when requiring plates on all
vehicles - even short erm tow vehicles, is to make sure they have insurance
on them. All in all a good thing should I get hit by one. ;-)
But a PITA when *I* need to move a vehicle. When I bought my 911 I drove 80
mi to
Howdy --
We talked about this issue a week or so ago - we basically said you get
what you pay for - I got a surprise recently. I bought a 3 draw unit for
my toolchest that fits between the top box and bottom box - btw, I highly
recommend this method of adding more space. It is very
As with others I highly recommend the Bilsteins - to see the difference hold
your used Bilstein next to your new Monroe - like I did several years ago
when finances required I buy the heaper Monroes. The chrome shaft on the
Bilsteins is about twice as large (diameter) as the Monroe - same for
I would suggest you ask Rusty. Either send him an email today or use
Instant Messaging on Monday - he'll be happy to help - just ask if he knows
which lasts the longest. Likely they are comparable and the price is the
only difference.
Don't forget to buy a new gasket - they don't typically
Howdy -
My 240D has a sound like something is running besides the engine - like
a roar that is not dependant on the speed of the engine but *is* dependant
on the speed of the car. My car has a solid fan attachment (no viscous
clutch) and I've replaced the motor mounts which cured a lot of
Thanks Dan (and others) --
I will check the wheel bearings on both front wheels.
BTW, I Love those old W108s!! Owned several a few years back - a '69 S and
my favorite a '73 SE 4.5 - and absolutely awesome machine even though ot got
terrible gas mileage. Would love a W140 6 cyl turbo diesel
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