Re: [MBZ] Nicely sorted Heckflosse on BAT

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This example only went to $7100 and I guess the owner still had it. 

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> On Jul 25, 2024, at 3:27 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> Always wanted a 230, never could find a decent one. The one W110 I searched 
> for years for and never found. Except for the one that OkieBoy stole out from 
> under me from Knutsack.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 25, 2024, at 1:39 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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>> 
>> 14 minutes left…..at $7,100….
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Jul 25, 2024, at 12:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Nicely sorted Heckflosse on BAT

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14 minutes left…..at $7,100….

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Re: [MBZ] A GL

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I have never spent more than $4800 on a pre-owned vehicle (the ML I have now). 
I have always felt pretty confident, utilizing my knowledge and experience 
coupled with all y’all’s insight, in doing my own PPIs. 
That being typed, I have decided that if I spend more than $6k or up on a 
“newer” model MB I will have my Indy do a PPI. 

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> On Jul 23, 2024, at 6:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> I recommend a PPI from a trusted mechanic before purchasing a used
> Mercedes.  If the tech finds any flaws those can serve as bargaining chips
> to reduce the cost to you - more than the cost of the PPI.
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 9:20 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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>> 
>> If it’s not something new/late model, you just have to do your due
>> diligence (research, talk to others, look at ones for sale even if you’re
>> not interested in that particular car) so you’re as well-informed as
>> possible. Provenance plays big in the process, too, I believe.
>> 
>> It’s a used car. There will always be “clunkers” no matter how good a job
>> you do with your part.
>> 
>> That said, by doing the work up front, you tip the scales in your favor.
>> But that’s not absolute, either. Stuff happens, and when/if it does, you
>> just have to assess the situation as best as possible and make hard
>> decisions, if necessary.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jul 23, 2024, at 5:30 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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>>> There's nothing wrong with paying top dollar for something that proves
>>> out to be what you were hoping it to be.
>>> 
>>> Or you can pay plenty for something that is not, like our X5.  Worst.
>> Car.
>>> Value.  Ever.  But how do you know, going in?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A GL

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Who knows? I’ll have to see what scanning reveals if I go check it out. 
Hard to get past silver. 

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> On Jul 23, 2024, at 10:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> "It does have a wiring issue" -- meaning what?
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 1:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes should be.
>> 
>> So if you have to replace compressor buy it from FCP euro so it has a
>> lifetime warranty.
>> 
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>>> On Jul 23, 2024, at 1:13 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1185911826054141/
>>> 
>>> Is this late enough to be rid of the timing chain issues Kaleb spoke of?
>>> Seller told me it throws many codes, I can scan it when I look at it and
>> that the “bags have been replaced but I think the compressor need to be
>> looked at”.
>>> But….it’s silver. Ugh.
>>> 
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[MBZ] A GL

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1185911826054141/

Is this late enough to be rid of the timing chain issues Kaleb spoke of? 
Seller told me it throws many codes, I can scan it when I look at it and that 
the “bags have been replaced but I think the compressor need to be looked at”.
But….it’s silver. Ugh. 

AZBob

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[MBZ] GL450 or GL550

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By and large we are smart guys. Most of us know the right answer when told. 
As a result I’ll be shopping for a GL450 or GL550 to get the third row seating 
I have been told we need. 
Pros and cons of each? 

AZBob  (doing things like this is how I have made it 44 years and counting)

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Re: [MBZ] 617 oil pan gasket

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Did a lot of ditch mowing one summer on a SuperM. Fun times. 

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> On Jul 22, 2024, at 7:16 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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> 
> I replaced the pan gasket on my 1952 Farmall Super M last summer. That uses 
> a nice thick cork gasket which will take up a lot of slop but the pan had 
> been bashed into something, or possibly several somethings, causing the 
> mating surface to not be even close to flat.
> 
> I spent about an hour laying the pan on a (mostly) flat surface and 
> prying/bashing on it to get it as flat as possible. Then I used a thin 
> coating of RTV to glue the gasket to the pan. When that had mostly setup 
> before I added another thin coat of RTV to the engine side of the gasket and 
> hoisted it into position for the install.
> 
> The machine still marks its territory but where I had previously been adding 
> about a quart of makeup oil every time I used the machine it now needs maybe 
> a pint every other year.
> 
> I would expect a 617 pan to be able to tolerate some straightening...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, July 21, 2024 at 06:22:10 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Pan was probably overtorqued and warped at some time in the past. RTV may be 
> the only answer now or a new pan.
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, at 17:05, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> Well it can't really hurt to apply some RTV if it was done before.  Then
>> keep an eye on it and check for flat if you have to get a new gasket
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 7/21/24 4:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Dropped the pan on the 617 doing the turbo oil drain. Whoever removed pan 
>>> before used rtv on it. I had a new pan gasket in stock but thing might be 
>>> 15 years old. Torqued bolts to spec. Filled with oil, pan leaks badly. 
>>> Tightened them down just a bit more and leaks slowed down but still leaks. 
>>> Assuming the old gasket is too hard and old to seal. Or, perhaps someone 
>>> tighten pan too much in the past and it’s no longer flat? Anyway, do y’all 
>>> put a light coating of RTV on both sides of the gasket when installing? Or 
>>> should they be dry? I read online folks recommend a light coating but 
>>> thought I would get the consensus here for when I order a new gasket and 
>>> pull the pan again.
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[MBZ] Mexican Crack Hits Hard

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That 0.5L engine sure looks bigger in the picture (that's what she said).

https://www.facebook.com/share/eSomNUqtpGQGXWiW/


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[MBZ] 335SD.......??

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Not sure what to think

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/d/vallejo-1971-mercedes-benz-280se-with/7764838892.html


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[MBZ] Be Unique

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https://reno.craigslist.org/cto/d/reno-1982-mercedes-240gd/7768035851.html

I'd drive that.

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[MBZ] This is Strange

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Someone got loose in the Porsche/VW paint shop:

https://www.facebook.com/share/MdrMk7rwQSRWvZPK/


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Re: [MBZ] OT 3yo posting

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Good old fake book has been doing that a lot over the last couple of weeks, 
popping up those listings. 

AZBob

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> On Jul 19, 2024, at 7:24 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> https://www.facebook.com/share/MehcHLExc4Ya3Lk7/?mibextid=79PoIi
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> Actually looks like a good deal, post is still up must still be available
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D

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Last night I stayed up until almost midnight waiting to go fetch SIL from the 
ER after having heat stroke on his UPS route.  I was a yawning, tired mess, but 
he was in worse shape. He took 4 bags of fluid and felt much better, I was 
still tired. 
And, I’m sure youz guyz can relate to this, even after hitting the hay at 0100 
I was still up, sans alarm, at 0515 like normal. 

AZBob

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> On Jul 19, 2024, at 2:32 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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> 
> On 19/07/2024 4:01 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Just had a conversation last night over beers about the laziness and 
>> apparent lack of motivation in today's young generations. Definitely an old 
>> man topic. LOL.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
> I am more concerned about my own laziness and lack of motivation than I am in 
> that of the young folks. I find it difficult to motivate myself to do things 
> after our evening meal. I used to accomplish stuff after supper but not so 
> much any more.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D

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Inching towards geezerdom.

AZBob

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> On Jul 19, 2024, at 1:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Some more-so than others. Frankly, we have begun to worry about you.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
>> On 19/07/2024 2:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I think everyone here is aging to a certain extent.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jul 19, 2024, at 2:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Who are the members who aren't aging?
>>> 
 On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 3:50 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>>That’s right.
>>> 
>>>Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Jul 19, 2024, at 2:47 PM, dan penoff.com 
>>>via Mercedes  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Send all the aging members out to the Back40?
>>>>
>>>> Like the Inuit who put them on an ice floe and let them drift off?
>>>>
>>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 240D

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I’ll know in the morning. 

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> On Jul 19, 2024, at 11:27 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> On Fri, Jul 19, 2024, at 13:32, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> Interesting color, not quite china blue.
> 
> Phoenix sun bleaching?
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Re: [MBZ] 240D

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The young fella called me and said he wasn’t expecting to get a call on it. 
Labels himself a “Mercedes Enthusiast” and he was really surprised how good of 
shape it’s in.  Starts right up, drives, stops, “sounds right”. He said one of 
his ham-handed underlings punched the hole in the grill. 
He told me I will likely be the old person there to check it out since nearly 
100% of the people he deals with want late model Hondas and Toyotas. 
He said he will meet me at the gate in the morning and he’s glad it “will be 
going to someone who knows what it is.” 
Slow your roll, hot rod. Let me at least look at it first. 

AZBob

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> On Jul 19, 2024, at 11:02 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> And it’s a late model, too! 1998!
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 19, 2024, at 10:35 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s baby blue, not sure what the official color is called.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Jul 19, 2024, at 12:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting color, not quite china blue. Could be a respray or it could be 
>>> just the camera...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 01:05:20 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just randomly saw this:
>>> 
>>> https://offerup.co/ZmnJPlDBmLb
>>> 
>>> Have to go check that out I feel. Cannot believe the AC is cold.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D

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I figured you'd be.
The dude is a tow yard/impound. His message on VM said to be at the yard at 
0830 in the morning to be able to look at. We are phone tagging at the moment.

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I am highly interested in that.

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> I just randomly saw this:
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> Have to go check that out I feel. Cannot believe the AC is cold.
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[MBZ] 240D

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I just randomly saw this:

https://offerup.co/ZmnJPlDBmLb

Have to go check that out I feel. Cannot believe the AC is cold.

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Re: [MBZ] '08 ML550

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Seller finally responded. 
carfax reports minor damage in 2014 but it doesn’t show what area of the 
vehicle was effected. Otherwise it was purchased new in Beverly Hills and 
serviced there regularly until 2013, 55k miles, sold to someone in Bakersfield 
and was regularly serviced there until seller buying it in June (seller is a 
guy trying to be a small, independent dealer). 
He said he’d bring it over to my side of town so I can see it. I just might 
take him up on it…unless the CarFax should make me nervous. 

Also, could I scan it with this scanner I use on the W163? 

AZBob

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> On Jul 18, 2024, at 2:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It’s a pump, a valve, a reservoir tank, and 2 struts in front and 2 bags in 
> back. There’s a controller somewhere. The bags are relatively inexpensive, 
> the struts more. The valve snd pump are cheap. Nothing particularly difficult 
> to swap. I’m not sure why people get all bent about airmatic given the 
> benefits esp in an SUV.  If you’re buying an expensive German vehicle thrr we 
> n don’t be a cheapass about its primary features. Get a DAS system you can 
> scan diagnose and test the system and you’re halfway there.
> 
> --FT
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> 
>> On Jul 18, 2024, at 1:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Floyd has some insight into the pneumatic suspension, but I don’t think 
>> it’s problematic based on what I’ve heard/read. I believe it’s a system 
>> similar to what’s on the W220/211, but not sure as I’ve never owned a car 
>> with it. If so, these are pretty simple, the struts can be expensive to 
>> replace if they leak, which I don’t think is a common issue.
>> 
>> Good catch - I didn’t notice the debadging. You can buy the badging from MB 
>> all ready to stick on the car, if it’s still available.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>>> On Jul 18, 2024, at 10:21 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How problematic is the pneumatic suspension? Also, I wonder why the badging 
>>> is removed? Do people think it makes it somehow look better?
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 18, 2024, at 9:58 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Bob,
>>>> 
>>>> It’s not so much the ML550, but the W164. It’s a major improvement over 
>>>> the W163s, far more car-like while still retaining a lot of the truck 
>>>> qualities that made the W163 useful.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m not sure the smaller displacement W164s do much better economy-wise, 
>>>> so having the ML550 does provide some advantages when it comes to power 
>>>> and towing. Amazingly, my ML550 got better mileage while towing a UHaul 
>>>> car carrier with the CL600 on it than running empty. Go figure!
>>>> 
>>>> I love mine, despite the crappy mileage. If I’m just tooling around town 
>>>> I’ll be lucky to hit 16 mpg, but on the highway, depending on load, I’ll 
>>>> easily hit the mid and upper teens. I don’t drive that much anyway, so the 
>>>> difference doesn’t really matter a whole lot to me. It’s a far more 
>>>> comfortable ride, I think, far less truck-like than the W163, and has more 
>>>> creature comforts, too.
>>>> 
>>>> Mine is approaching 200k without any real issues to speak of. I bought it 
>>>> with 175k on the clock two years ago for $6500, so the one you’ve posted 
>>>> isn’t far off based on price and mileage. Provenance is important on 
>>>> these, and while there’s no major issues with the W164s that I know of, 
>>>> good maintenance is always important. This one is really loaded up, with 
>>>> pneumatic suspension, Parktronic (which is pretty rare on these) as well 
>>>> as the rear seat entertainment system (DVD player.)
>>>> 
>>>> Nice example. I would definitely consider this one if I was looking for 
>>>> another W164.
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 18, 2024, at 9:28 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Low miles. In spite of it being straight up realtor spec, I wonder what 
>>>>> comparable ones have been going for?
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/share/rSf3ZGikZ8uSNAv6/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since it's still running just fine and my garage is 110 degress typically 
>>>>> during the day,  I

[MBZ] '82 300D

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I feel like he's tried to sell this before:

https://www.facebook.com/share/vbgCoUgWNp9VnSad/


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[MBZ] Git Ur Wallet Out, Boys

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Ooow that's a crap ton of shekels, but it's probably not out of line for 
the times in which we live.

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Re: [MBZ] '08 ML550

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

How problematic is the pneumatic suspension? Also, I wonder why the badging is 
removed? Do people think it makes it somehow look better? 

AZBob

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> On Jul 18, 2024, at 9:58 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bob,
> 
> It’s not so much the ML550, but the W164. It’s a major improvement over the 
> W163s, far more car-like while still retaining a lot of the truck qualities 
> that made the W163 useful.
> 
> I’m not sure the smaller displacement W164s do much better economy-wise, so 
> having the ML550 does provide some advantages when it comes to power and 
> towing. Amazingly, my ML550 got better mileage while towing a UHaul car 
> carrier with the CL600 on it than running empty. Go figure!
> 
> I love mine, despite the crappy mileage. If I’m just tooling around town I’ll 
> be lucky to hit 16 mpg, but on the highway, depending on load, I’ll easily 
> hit the mid and upper teens. I don’t drive that much anyway, so the 
> difference doesn’t really matter a whole lot to me. It’s a far more 
> comfortable ride, I think, far less truck-like than the W163, and has more 
> creature comforts, too.
> 
> Mine is approaching 200k without any real issues to speak of. I bought it 
> with 175k on the clock two years ago for $6500, so the one you’ve posted 
> isn’t far off based on price and mileage. Provenance is important on these, 
> and while there’s no major issues with the W164s that I know of, good 
> maintenance is always important. This one is really loaded up, with pneumatic 
> suspension, Parktronic (which is pretty rare on these) as well as the rear 
> seat entertainment system (DVD player.)
> 
> Nice example. I would definitely consider this one if I was looking for 
> another W164.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 18, 2024, at 9:28 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Low miles. In spite of it being straight up realtor spec, I wonder what 
>> comparable ones have been going for?
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/share/rSf3ZGikZ8uSNAv6/
>> 
>> Since it's still running just fine and my garage is 110 degress typically 
>> during the day,  I am not enthused to do the CP on my ML. I did just replace 
>> the driver's rear window regulator
>> I think I want to move on from this W163 and maybe get something like this. 
>> Many of you dig ML550s.
>> 
>> AZBob
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[MBZ] '08 ML550

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Low miles. In spite of it being straight up realtor spec, I wonder what 
comparable ones have been going for?

https://www.facebook.com/share/rSf3ZGikZ8uSNAv6/

Since it's still running just fine and my garage is 110 degress typically 
during the day,  I am not enthused to do the CP on my ML. I did just replace 
the driver's rear window regulator
I think I want to move on from this W163 and maybe get something like this. 
Many of you dig ML550s.

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[MBZ] 1993 300SD

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AZ paint and Taco Bell driver's seat.

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[MBZ] 1957 180

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I don't believe that is the interior of a $12K specimen.  Is that a legit color 
combo?

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Re: [MBZ] begje interior

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And this is now officially off my radar. 
Seller boy messaged again saying he can’t meet today after all so I told him 
thanks but no thanks. 

Back to dealing with the W163 ML (rear window regulator, CP) in the 110 degree 
garage. 

AZBob

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> On Jul 16, 2024, at 11:13 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> 
> Yes. Exactly.
> I just got a message from him saying I can come and scan it at 4pm. I suppose 
> I will.
> You both are right about me not having ample room to mess with it and not 
> wanting a project.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 10:53 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes scan it and see what’s up. Google what comes up and see what is 
>> involved. If something complicated I would walk. You probably don’t want to 
>> take on a complicated project.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 12:51 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve done it, but considering that this is nothing more than a flip for 
>>> the guy and he has no interest in the vehicle itself, you’re essentially 
>>> assuming the risk he took when he bought it at auction. If it was a private 
>>> seller/owner I would have a different attitude as you could at least get 
>>> some history out of them, but in this case that’s a big black hole and 
>>> isn’t going to change unless you get a VMI.
>>> 
>>> If you were Floyd with a vast estate and cars to scavenge parts off of as 
>>> well as resources for reprogramming ECUs, I could totally see it. But in 
>>> your case I think it’s a bad idea. I would feel the same way if it were me, 
>>> even knowing what we do about it at this point. Unless I was hell bent on 
>>> having one of these, I would move on. There will always be more.
>>> 
>>> Worst case, check it out, scan it, (don’t share the results with the 
>>> seller, he doesn’t deserve or need thte information) and report back to see 
>>> if it’s repairable. Then you’ve got to make a quick decision as to whether 
>>> or not you want to assume the risk.
>>> 
>>> I’ve walked away from plenty of deals like this and never felt bad about 
>>> one yet.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 9:40 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> If and when I hear back from him, I will do a scan and see what it turns 
>>>> up. My interest in it is waning I'm afraid.
>>>> 
>>>> AZBob
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Buggered 
>>>> Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2024 10:11 PM
>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>>> Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] begje interior
>>>> 
>>>> In perfect shape it might be a $5k vehicle but $4500 might be more 
>>>> realistic. It’s 16yr old but maybe the diesel adds a bit of value.
>>>> 
>>>> Add up all what might be needed (CP swap figure $1k easy to get a “new” 
>>>> one for $400, maybe $400 for programming, and $200 for fluid/filter, you 
>>>> do the work not paying someone to do it) and back out from say $5k and 
>>>> there’s your number. The CP might be ok though, you’ll have to see the 
>>>> scan.
>>>> 
>>>> --FT
>>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 1:01 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let’s see…..Johnny Italiano bought it for $5000 at the auction and when 
>>>>> he went to drive it home he learned it was in limp mode. He has it priced 
>>>>> at $4000, and told me that he’s prepared to lose his shirt. It for 
>>>>> certain needs the conductor plate, a windshield, and tires soon.
>>>>> I think $1500 might piss him off, but I don’t know his definition of 
>>>>> “loose mya shirt” is.
>>>>> 
>>>>> $416 for a windshield from SafeLight btw.
>>>>> 
>>>>> AZBob
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 9:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes 722.9. The CP in a 722.9 is coded to the car. You can get a good 
>>>>>> used (or something

Re: [MBZ] W115 240D on BAT

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Sold…$6450

AZBob

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> On Jul 16, 2024, at 11:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Caledonian green/green.  Very pretty.  Very clean.  Might sell at a
> reasonable price (NR auction). Kaleb?
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1976-mercedes-benz-240d-13/
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Re: [MBZ] begje interior

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Yes. Exactly. 
I just got a message from him saying I can come and scan it at 4pm. I suppose I 
will. 
You both are right about me not having ample room to mess with it and not 
wanting a project. 

AZBob
 
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> On Jul 16, 2024, at 10:53 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes scan it and see what’s up. Google what comes up and see what is 
> involved. If something complicated I would walk. You probably don’t want to 
> take on a complicated project.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 12:51 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve done it, but considering that this is nothing more than a flip for the 
>> guy and he has no interest in the vehicle itself, you’re essentially 
>> assuming the risk he took when he bought it at auction. If it was a private 
>> seller/owner I would have a different attitude as you could at least get 
>> some history out of them, but in this case that’s a big black hole and isn’t 
>> going to change unless you get a VMI.
>> 
>> If you were Floyd with a vast estate and cars to scavenge parts off of as 
>> well as resources for reprogramming ECUs, I could totally see it. But in 
>> your case I think it’s a bad idea. I would feel the same way if it were me, 
>> even knowing what we do about it at this point. Unless I was hell bent on 
>> having one of these, I would move on. There will always be more.
>> 
>> Worst case, check it out, scan it, (don’t share the results with the seller, 
>> he doesn’t deserve or need thte information) and report back to see if it’s 
>> repairable. Then you’ve got to make a quick decision as to whether or not 
>> you want to assume the risk.
>> 
>> I’ve walked away from plenty of deals like this and never felt bad about one 
>> yet.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 9:40 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If and when I hear back from him, I will do a scan and see what it turns 
>>> up. My interest in it is waning I'm afraid.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Buggered 
>>> Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2024 10:11 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] begje interior
>>> 
>>> In perfect shape it might be a $5k vehicle but $4500 might be more 
>>> realistic. It’s 16yr old but maybe the diesel adds a bit of value.
>>> 
>>> Add up all what might be needed (CP swap figure $1k easy to get a “new” one 
>>> for $400, maybe $400 for programming, and $200 for fluid/filter, you do the 
>>> work not paying someone to do it) and back out from say $5k and there’s 
>>> your number. The CP might be ok though, you’ll have to see the scan.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 1:01 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Let’s see…..Johnny Italiano bought it for $5000 at the auction and when 
>>>> he went to drive it home he learned it was in limp mode. He has it priced 
>>>> at $4000, and told me that he’s prepared to lose his shirt. It for certain 
>>>> needs the conductor plate, a windshield, and tires soon.
>>>> I think $1500 might piss him off, but I don’t know his definition of 
>>>> “loose mya shirt” is.
>>>> 
>>>> $416 for a windshield from SafeLight btw.
>>>> 
>>>> AZBob
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 9:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes 722.9. The CP in a 722.9 is coded to the car. You can get a good 
>>>>> used (or something) refurb for $400 or pull one at a junkyard (that might 
>>>>> not be good) for not much and then clone it from the old one. That will 
>>>>> cost something unless you “know a guy.”  A 722.6 CP is maybe $60 and not 
>>>>> coded, neither is the control module.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --FT
>>>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 12:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A 722.9 conductor plate job looks more involved and more costly than a 
>>>>>> 722.6 job.
>>>>>> 
>>&g

[MBZ] Amazing Mercedes Wagon

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

This is in stock
Notoriously reliable drivetrain
Freezing AC

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[MBZ] Logo, Anyone?

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Interesting measurement for something circular:

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[MBZ] Oh, FBMP

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This is the first one that popped up today on my FBMP feed:

https://www.facebook.com/share/wUEME5QJxume9Xnp/

Five years old? Really?

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Re: [MBZ] begje interior

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If and when I hear back from him, I will do a scan and see what it turns up. My 
interest in it is waning I'm afraid.

AZBob


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Buggered Benzmail 
via Mercedes 
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2024 10:11 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] begje interior

In perfect shape it might be a $5k vehicle but $4500 might be more realistic. 
It’s 16yr old but maybe the diesel adds a bit of value.

Add up all what might be needed (CP swap figure $1k easy to get a “new” one for 
$400, maybe $400 for programming, and $200 for fluid/filter, you do the work 
not paying someone to do it) and back out from say $5k and there’s your number. 
The CP might be ok though, you’ll have to see the scan.

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jul 16, 2024, at 1:01 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
> Let’s see…..Johnny Italiano bought it for $5000 at the auction and when he 
> went to drive it home he learned it was in limp mode. He has it priced at 
> $4000, and told me that he’s prepared to lose his shirt. It for certain needs 
> the conductor plate, a windshield, and tires soon.
> I think $1500 might piss him off, but I don’t know his definition of “loose 
> mya shirt” is.
>
> $416 for a windshield from SafeLight btw.
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 9:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Yes 722.9. The CP in a 722.9 is coded to the car. You can get a good used 
>> (or something) refurb for $400 or pull one at a junkyard (that might not be 
>> good) for not much and then clone it from the old one. That will cost 
>> something unless you “know a guy.”  A 722.6 CP is maybe $60 and not coded, 
>> neither is the control module.
>>
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>>
>>>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 12:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> A 722.9 conductor plate job looks more involved and more costly than a 
>>> 722.6 job.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 8:58 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A 2008 ML320 CDI 4Matic has a 722.9 transmission, yes?
>>>> Those conductor plates seem to be considerably more expensive than a 722.6.
>>>>
>>>> AZBob
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh for sure.
>>>>> He couldn’t even describe it. I’m pretty sure that’s what he was 
>>>>> describing in his broken English. He’s a 22 year old kid fresh from Italy.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess I’ll take 20 pictures of Mr. Franklin and my scanner and start at 
>>>>> $1500 (depending on the codes of course) because he kept repeating how he 
>>>>> paid $5k for it at the auction and he’s gonna “loose hez shirt” on “dis 
>>>>> dizzle”
>>>>> I think it can be cleaned up and sorted and be a good driver. Oh, and it 
>>>>> needs a windshield. Would I get it insured, wait a couple days then call 
>>>>> insurance or just pay to get it replaced? I have no earthly idea how much 
>>>>> a proper windshield costs.
>>>>>
>>>>> AZBob
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 6:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no telling what he means by limp mode. Will have to scan it
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 8:21 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Finally made arrangements to see this thing with the seller. And of 
>>>>>>> course, when I get there, he says that he doesn’t have the keys that 
>>>>>>> his brother took them accidentally so my first visit was simply looking 
>>>>>>> it over. He bought it at an auction for five grand. It looks, pretty 
>>>>>>> darn good. It’s in limp mode which he didn’t know what it was or how to 
>>>>>>> describe it very well. I’m going to try to meet with him tomorrow when 
>>>>>>> he has the key and put the scanner on it but he says he’s gonna sell it 
>>>>>>> and he’s gonna take a loss on it so I could really make that happen for 
>>>>>

Re: [MBZ] begje interior

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Let’s see…..Johnny Italiano bought it for $5000 at the auction and when he went 
to drive it home he learned it was in limp mode. He has it priced at $4000, and 
told me that he’s prepared to lose his shirt. It for certain needs the 
conductor plate, a windshield, and tires soon.
I think $1500 might piss him off, but I don’t know his definition of “loose mya 
shirt” is. 

$416 for a windshield from SafeLight btw. 

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 15, 2024, at 9:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes 722.9. The CP in a 722.9 is coded to the car. You can get a good used 
> (or something) refurb for $400 or pull one at a junkyard (that might not be 
> good) for not much and then clone it from the old one. That will cost 
> something unless you “know a guy.”  A 722.6 CP is maybe $60 and not coded, 
> neither is the control module.
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 12:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A 722.9 conductor plate job looks more involved and more costly than a 
>> 722.6 job.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 8:58 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A 2008 ML320 CDI 4Matic has a 722.9 transmission, yes?
>>> Those conductor plates seem to be considerably more expensive than a 722.6.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Oh for sure.
>>>> He couldn’t even describe it. I’m pretty sure that’s what he was 
>>>> describing in his broken English. He’s a 22 year old kid fresh from Italy.
>>>> 
>>>> I guess I’ll take 20 pictures of Mr. Franklin and my scanner and start at 
>>>> $1500 (depending on the codes of course) because he kept repeating how he 
>>>> paid $5k for it at the auction and he’s gonna “loose hez shirt” on “dis 
>>>> dizzle”
>>>> I think it can be cleaned up and sorted and be a good driver. Oh, and it 
>>>> needs a windshield. Would I get it insured, wait a couple days then call 
>>>> insurance or just pay to get it replaced? I have no earthly idea how much 
>>>> a proper windshield costs.
>>>> 
>>>> AZBob
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 6:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is no telling what he means by limp mode. Will have to scan it
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 8:21 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Finally made arrangements to see this thing with the seller. And of 
>>>>>> course, when I get there, he says that he doesn’t have the keys that his 
>>>>>> brother took them accidentally so my first visit was simply looking it 
>>>>>> over. He bought it at an auction for five grand. It looks, pretty darn 
>>>>>> good. It’s in limp mode which he didn’t know what it was or how to 
>>>>>> describe it very well. I’m going to try to meet with him tomorrow when 
>>>>>> he has the key and put the scanner on it but he says he’s gonna sell it 
>>>>>> and he’s gonna take a loss on it so I could really make that happen for 
>>>>>> him. I think because all in all it looks like it’s in pretty darn good 
>>>>>> shape.  there’s no hanging out that would indicate that it has any 
>>>>>> issues with the oil cooler seals.
>>>>>> So…limp mode for this would be conductor plate as well, correct?
>>>>>> I suppose scanning it will tell the tail.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> AZBob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2024, at 9:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Realtor spec
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --FT
>>>>>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2024, at 5:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For sure.  Nice color combo.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 

Re: [MBZ] begje interior

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

A 722.9 conductor plate job looks more involved and more costly than a 722.6 
job. 


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> On Jul 15, 2024, at 8:58 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> 
> A 2008 ML320 CDI 4Matic has a 722.9 transmission, yes?
> Those conductor plates seem to be considerably more expensive than a 722.6.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh for sure.
>> He couldn’t even describe it. I’m pretty sure that’s what he was describing 
>> in his broken English. He’s a 22 year old kid fresh from Italy.
>> 
>> I guess I’ll take 20 pictures of Mr. Franklin and my scanner and start at 
>> $1500 (depending on the codes of course) because he kept repeating how he 
>> paid $5k for it at the auction and he’s gonna “loose hez shirt” on “dis 
>> dizzle”
>> I think it can be cleaned up and sorted and be a good driver. Oh, and it 
>> needs a windshield. Would I get it insured, wait a couple days then call 
>> insurance or just pay to get it replaced? I have no earthly idea how much a 
>> proper windshield costs.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 6:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is no telling what he means by limp mode. Will have to scan it
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 8:21 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Finally made arrangements to see this thing with the seller. And of 
>>>> course, when I get there, he says that he doesn’t have the keys that his 
>>>> brother took them accidentally so my first visit was simply looking it 
>>>> over. He bought it at an auction for five grand. It looks, pretty darn 
>>>> good. It’s in limp mode which he didn’t know what it was or how to 
>>>> describe it very well. I’m going to try to meet with him tomorrow when he 
>>>> has the key and put the scanner on it but he says he’s gonna sell it and 
>>>> he’s gonna take a loss on it so I could really make that happen for him. I 
>>>> think because all in all it looks like it’s in pretty darn good shape.  
>>>> there’s no hanging out that would indicate that it has any issues with the 
>>>> oil cooler seals.
>>>> So…limp mode for this would be conductor plate as well, correct?
>>>> I suppose scanning it will tell the tail.
>>>> 
>>>> AZBob
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2024, at 9:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Realtor spec
>>>>> 
>>>>> --FT
>>>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2024, at 5:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For sure.  Nice color combo.
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A 2008 ML320 CDI 4Matic has a 722.9 transmission, yes? 
Those conductor plates seem to be considerably more expensive than a 722.6. 

AZBob

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> On Jul 15, 2024, at 7:16 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> 
> Oh for sure.
> He couldn’t even describe it. I’m pretty sure that’s what he was describing 
> in his broken English. He’s a 22 year old kid fresh from Italy.
> 
> I guess I’ll take 20 pictures of Mr. Franklin and my scanner and start at 
> $1500 (depending on the codes of course) because he kept repeating how he 
> paid $5k for it at the auction and he’s gonna “loose hez shirt” on “dis 
> dizzle”
> I think it can be cleaned up and sorted and be a good driver. Oh, and it 
> needs a windshield. Would I get it insured, wait a couple days then call 
> insurance or just pay to get it replaced? I have no earthly idea how much a 
> proper windshield costs.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 6:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> There is no telling what he means by limp mode. Will have to scan it
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 8:21 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally made arrangements to see this thing with the seller. And of 
>>> course, when I get there, he says that he doesn’t have the keys that his 
>>> brother took them accidentally so my first visit was simply looking it 
>>> over. He bought it at an auction for five grand. It looks, pretty darn 
>>> good. It’s in limp mode which he didn’t know what it was or how to describe 
>>> it very well. I’m going to try to meet with him tomorrow when he has the 
>>> key and put the scanner on it but he says he’s gonna sell it and he’s gonna 
>>> take a loss on it so I could really make that happen for him. I think 
>>> because all in all it looks like it’s in pretty darn good shape.  there’s 
>>> no hanging out that would indicate that it has any issues with the oil 
>>> cooler seals.
>>> So…limp mode for this would be conductor plate as well, correct?
>>> I suppose scanning it will tell the tail.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 11, 2024, at 9:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Realtor spec
>>>> 
>>>> --FT
>>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2024, at 5:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> For sure.  Nice color combo.
>>>> 
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Picked it up for (if I may use it as a data point for Jr.Italiano on the 
morrow)?

AZBob

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> On Jul 15, 2024, at 8:09 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ok I just picked up an 09 in “limp mode.”  Basically same vehicle I guess. 
> Starts right up and runs ok but won’t accelerate very well (which is not 
> really “runs ok” but you know what I mean). It will get up to speed but 
> slowly. A scan with DAS showed 3 or 4 sensors wonky. The Icarsoft wouldn’t 
> talk to the ECU but DAS did, unclear why. A cheap scanner might not pick 
> those up.  I didn’t spend any time messing with it, will get to that when I 
> bring it home
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 10:38 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 2008 ML320 CDI
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 7:26 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Remind me again what car it is
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 9:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> There is no telling what he means by limp mode. Will have to scan it
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 8:21 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Finally made arrangements to see this thing with the seller. And of 
>>>>> course, when I get there, he says that he doesn’t have the keys that his 
>>>>> brother took them accidentally so my first visit was simply looking it 
>>>>> over. He bought it at an auction for five grand. It looks, pretty darn 
>>>>> good. It’s in limp mode which he didn’t know what it was or how to 
>>>>> describe it very well. I’m going to try to meet with him tomorrow when he 
>>>>> has the key and put the scanner on it but he says he’s gonna sell it and 
>>>>> he’s gonna take a loss on it so I could really make that happen for him. 
>>>>> I think because all in all it looks like it’s in pretty darn good shape.  
>>>>> there’s no hanging out that would indicate that it has any issues with 
>>>>> the oil cooler seals.
>>>>> So…limp mode for this would be conductor plate as well, correct?
>>>>> I suppose scanning it will tell the tail.
>>>>> 
>>>>> AZBob
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2024, at 9:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Realtor spec
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --FT
>>>>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2024, at 5:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For sure.  Nice color combo.
>>>>>> 
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2008 ML320 CDI
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> On Jul 15, 2024, at 7:26 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Remind me again what car it is
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 9:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> There is no telling what he means by limp mode. Will have to scan it
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 8:21 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally made arrangements to see this thing with the seller. And of 
>>> course, when I get there, he says that he doesn’t have the keys that his 
>>> brother took them accidentally so my first visit was simply looking it 
>>> over. He bought it at an auction for five grand. It looks, pretty darn 
>>> good. It’s in limp mode which he didn’t know what it was or how to describe 
>>> it very well. I’m going to try to meet with him tomorrow when he has the 
>>> key and put the scanner on it but he says he’s gonna sell it and he’s gonna 
>>> take a loss on it so I could really make that happen for him. I think 
>>> because all in all it looks like it’s in pretty darn good shape.  there’s 
>>> no hanging out that would indicate that it has any issues with the oil 
>>> cooler seals.
>>> So…limp mode for this would be conductor plate as well, correct?
>>> I suppose scanning it will tell the tail.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 11, 2024, at 9:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Realtor spec
>>>> 
>>>> --FT
>>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2024, at 5:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> For sure.  Nice color combo.
>>>> 
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Oh for sure. 
He couldn’t even describe it. I’m pretty sure that’s what he was describing in 
his broken English. He’s a 22 year old kid fresh from Italy. 

I guess I’ll take 20 pictures of Mr. Franklin and my scanner and start at $1500 
(depending on the codes of course) because he kept repeating how he paid $5k 
for it at the auction and he’s gonna “loose hez shirt” on “dis dizzle” 
I think it can be cleaned up and sorted and be a good driver. Oh, and it needs 
a windshield. Would I get it insured, wait a couple days then call insurance or 
just pay to get it replaced? I have no earthly idea how much a proper 
windshield costs. 

AZBob

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> On Jul 15, 2024, at 6:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> There is no telling what he means by limp mode. Will have to scan it
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 8:21 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Finally made arrangements to see this thing with the seller. And of course, 
>> when I get there, he says that he doesn’t have the keys that his brother 
>> took them accidentally so my first visit was simply looking it over. He 
>> bought it at an auction for five grand. It looks, pretty darn good. It’s in 
>> limp mode which he didn’t know what it was or how to describe it very well. 
>> I’m going to try to meet with him tomorrow when he has the key and put the 
>> scanner on it but he says he’s gonna sell it and he’s gonna take a loss on 
>> it so I could really make that happen for him. I think because all in all it 
>> looks like it’s in pretty darn good shape.  there’s no hanging out that 
>> would indicate that it has any issues with the oil cooler seals.
>> So…limp mode for this would be conductor plate as well, correct?
>> I suppose scanning it will tell the tail.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 11, 2024, at 9:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Realtor spec
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 11, 2024, at 5:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> For sure.  Nice color combo.
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Finally made arrangements to see this thing with the seller. And of course, 
when I get there, he says that he doesn’t have the keys that his brother took 
them accidentally so my first visit was simply looking it over. He bought it at 
an auction for five grand. It looks, pretty darn good. It’s in limp mode which 
he didn’t know what it was or how to describe it very well. I’m going to try to 
meet with him tomorrow when he has the key and put the scanner on it but he 
says he’s gonna sell it and he’s gonna take a loss on it so I could really make 
that happen for him. I think because all in all it looks like it’s in pretty 
darn good shape.  there’s no hanging out that would indicate that it has any 
issues with the oil cooler seals. 
So…limp mode for this would be conductor plate as well, correct? 
I suppose scanning it will tell the tail.

AZBob

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> 
> Realtor spec
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
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>> On Jul 11, 2024, at 5:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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>> For sure.  Nice color combo.
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Re: [MBZ] 2019 GLA250

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I’m doing my best to convince her. 

AZBob

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> On Jul 15, 2024, at 4:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> I think I would go with toda too.
> 
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>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 5:37 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Something that late model I would go with the Toyota. After researching it, 
>> of course.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 3:03 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Cheap entry level tinny.
>> 
>> Go with the yoda
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
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>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 6:00 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My Cali child’s partner is considering this:
>> 
>> <https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/96b81257-87e9-4112-93e2-3ee816df5b2d/>
>> [Cars-PD_OG-IMG.webp]
>> Used 2019 Mercedes-Benz GLA 250 Base For Sale 
>> $23,998<https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/96b81257-87e9-4112-93e2-3ee816df5b2d/>
>> cars.com<https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/96b81257-87e9-4112-93e2-3ee816df5b2d/>
>> 
>> She’s vacillating between this or 2021ish Toyota CHR Nightshade.
>> Who among us had the scoop on these GLAs? Would it be suitable for a girl 
>> who is reasonably vehicularly aware to drive this around SoCal?
>> 
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[MBZ] 2019 GLA250

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My Cali child’s partner is considering this:Used 2019 Mercedes-Benz GLA 250 Base For Sale $23,998cars.comShe’s vacillating between this or 2021ish Toyota CHR Nightshade. Who among us had the scoop on these GLAs? Would it be suitable for a girl who is reasonably vehicularly aware to drive this around SoCal? AZBobSent from my iPhone___
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[MBZ] Rough as a Cob but Cheap

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https://www.facebook.com/share/QtWNSG76dzZxkwwf/

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[MBZ] Damn....I Just Sold My Land in Nicaragua.

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Onter only boll of sale...MB's are seating for three yearsso don askwad 
drivable.

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[MBZ] FBMPClown

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I’m still attempting to get this clown to engage:2008 Mercedes-Benz M-Class · ML 320 CDI Sport Utility 4Dfacebook.comHe doesn’t answer question on condition. His only replies to me have been “tomorrow” when I asked yesterday morning if I could see the car yesterday, and then when I asked him what time he answered 9 hours later, “12pm”.  So I instantly asked for a meeting place…..crickets. I asked three more times last night and six times before 1100 today and no response. This is the first 100% FBMP idiot I’ve dealt with. Guess I’ve been lucky.AZBobSent from my iPhone___
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Re: [MBZ] This could be a good deal

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Good luck on your trip today…or how did it turn out?

AZBob

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> 
>> On Sat, Jul 13, 2024 at 1:23 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>> Thanks.
>> 
>> I got the VIN from the guy and ran it on the MBUSA site.  Looks like all
>> these repairs were done last year 2/7/23 but he's saying DPF needs to be
>> cleaned.  The report says there is a warranty of 4yr 48kmi on the
>> repair, he says the car has 165,000 miles so that would still be covered
>> since the repairs were only 9kmi ago.  Weird, maybe he bought it after
>> the repairs were done and he is unaware or there is something else wrong
>> with it.  I'll take the computer and scan it and see what else pops up
>> for faults, but I would think with all this work the thing should be in
>> good shape.  From the pics it looks pretty nice.
>> 
>> I'm going to drive up there and look at it tomorrow and see if I can
>> make a deal, maybe offer $3k, it was listed a week ago and I think he
>> dropped the price already.  It's not too far from Columbia, I'll check
>> with MBUSA on Monday and see if there is still coverage on it and if I
>> buy it get it to the stealer in Columbia which isn't too far and let
>> them deal with it under the warranty. Maybe they'll even send a flatbed
>> to pick it up!
>> 
>> Hopes not too high but worth a little road trip, could turn out to be an
>> excellent deal.
>> 
>> Has it here for $3500
>> https://offerup.com/item/detail/cb6d81b0-fb96-3061-99d2-2e562d0d6995
>> 
>> hahaha I wonder if this is the same guy
>> 
>> https://cabarrusnc.mugshots.zone/quartrone-gabriel-angelo-mugshot-04-30-2021/
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>> 4JGBB25E19A522481 2009 Mercedes-Benz ML320
>> Status
>> Vehicle (VIN) Eligible for Emissions Modification?
>> Yes
>> Emissions Modification Approved by EPA and CARB?
>> Yes
>> 
>> Emissions Modification Completed?
>> 
>> Parts
>> Replaced
>> Software Update
>> NOx Sensor
>> DPF + DOC
>> SCR-Catalyst
>> Lambda Sensor
>> ECU
>> Crankcase Ventilation Valve
>> Charge Air Distribution Lines with Transverse Tubes
>> Intake Port Shutoff Actuator
>> Clean Air Duct with Mass Air Flow Sensors
>> EGR Valve with Cooler and Line
>> Yes
>> 
>> Vehicle has Extended Emissions Warranty?
>> 
>> This vehicle had an emission modification performed on 2023-02-07 and
>> mileage at 156515 miles. This vehicle has an extended warranty of 10
>> years/120,000 miles from the initial sale date or 4 years/48,000 miles
>> from the date of installation of the Emission Modification. Please call
>> the Customer Assistance center at 833-841-9362 or your local Authorized
>> Mercedes-Benz Dealer for information on your coverage. You can find
>> additional information on the terms and covered components by clicking
>> on the link below.
>> 
>> EXTENDED MODIFICATION WARRANTY
>> <
>> https://bluetecupdate.mbusa.com/content/dam/bluetec-emp/documents/warranty/warranty-extension-covered-components.pdf
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes
>> 
>> 
>> This is the whole warranty statement:
>> 
>> Extended Modification Warranty MY 2009-2016 OM642 and OM651 BlueTEC II
>> Diesel Vehicles
>> 
>> Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC will provide an Extended Modification Warranty
>> for each vehicle that has received the Approved Emission Modification.
>> The Extended Modification Warranty period shall be the greater of: (i)
>> 10 years from the date of initial sale or 120,000 miles on the odometer,
>> whichever occurs first; or (ii) 4 years or 48,000 miles from the date of
>> installation of the Approved Emission Modification, whichever occurs
>> first. If an owner or lessee has already paid to a have a repair
>> performed related to any of the components listed below prior to the
>> effective date of this Extended Modification Warranty, those repairs are
>> not eligible for reimbursement.
>> 
>> The Extended Modification Warranty coverage may be denied if an Eligible
>> Vehicle has been altered with the use of any after-market emission
>> related components, parts, and/or software, or with the removal of any
>> original emission related components, parts, and/or software, and such
>> alteration(s) are likely to substantially affect the operation of the
>> vehicle with the Approved Emission Modification, until the owner of such
>> vehicle, at his or her expense, has reversed the alteration(s) such that
>> the Approved Emission Modification will not be substantially affected.
>> 
>> The Extended Modification Warranty will not cover:
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Any damage or malfunctions caused by the installation of non-EPA
>>or non-CARB certified emission related parts, including damage or
>>malfunction to parts needed for proper diagnosis of a covered part.
>> 
>>  *
>> 
>> Damage or malfunctions caused by or related to outside influence,
>>such as damage due to an accident, or vehicle misuse or neglect.
>> 
>>The Extended Modification Warranty 

Re: [MBZ] This could be a good deal

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Oil cooler leaks if it’s an OM642, which I believe it is. 
I’m still waiting on that knucklehead with the one by me to respond. I so wanna 
bust his chops but I will wait. 



AZBob
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> On Jul 13, 2024, at 8:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>   I should get the VIN and check with MB to see if it is under this. 
>   Maybe get it fixed for free!
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>   Per MBUSA: Eligibility
> 
> 
> Empty heading
> 
> 
> (1) What are the eligible vehicles that will receive an
> Emission Modification?
> 
>   This settlement pertains specifically to MY09 to MY16 BlueTEC II
>   vehicles with OM642 and OM651 engines sold or leased in the US.
> 
> 
>   How Do I Know if My Car Is Affected?
> 
> Seven affected models span the 2009-16 model years. All the cars in question 
> have turbo-diesel engines — some offered as standard equipment, others as an 
> optional engine — and almost all were marketed as Bluetec. Similarly, 
> Bluetec-equipped Sprinter vans, sold under the Mercedes-Benz and Freightliner 
> brands, are affected for the 2010-16 model years.
> 
> According to the EPA 
> ,
>  affected models are:
> 
> * *Sprinter: *2010-16 Sprinter six-cylinder, 2014-16 Sprinter
>   four-cylinder
> * *E-Class:*2011-13 E350 Bluetec, 2014-16 E250 Bluetec
> * *GL-Class: *2009 GL320 Bluetec, 2010-16 GL350 Bluetec
> * *GLK-Class:*2013-15 GLK250 Bluetec
> * *M/GLE Class:*2009 ML320 Bluetec, 2010-14 ML350 Bluetec, 2015 ML250
>   Bluetec, 2016 GLE300d
> * *R-Class:*2009 R320 Bluetec, 2010-12 R350 Bluetec
> * *S-Class:*2012-13 S350 Bluetec
> 
> 
>   What Does the Repair Entail?
> 
> The repair comprises a software update and replacement of vehicle-specific 
> hardware, such as sensors and catalysts. Daimler must also furnish an 
> extended warranty to cover affected software and hardware, with tests 
> performed annually for five years to ensure affected cars continue to meet 
> emissions standards down the road.
> 
> Specific repairs vary, and in some cases aren’t even finalized. Twelve 
> subgroups exist within the affected vehicle population, according to the EPA 
> ,
>  with specific repairs for each group. All will receive a software update and 
> new nitrogen oxide sensors, and any vehicles without a copper catalyst will 
> get one, as well. Beyond that, specifics vary. As of this writing, the agency 
> says it’s approved repairs for five of the 12 groups, encompassing the 
> 2013-15 GLK250 Bluetec, 2015 ML250 Bluetec, 2016 GLE300d and six-cylinder 
> 2010-16 Sprinter. Repairs for other groups are set for approval from now 
> through 2021.
> 
> 
>   Will the Repair Cost Anything?
> 
> No. Repairs should be free for owners. Under the terms of the settlement, 
> Daimler will recall and repair vehicles at no cost to consumers, the Justice 
> Department said.
> 
>> On 7/13/24 10:18 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Looks nice for the miles and money if you’re looking for a diesel.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Jul 13, 2024, at 7:03 AM, Buggered Benzmail via 
 Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting. I should definitely go look at it. Could be a decent ride for 
>>> pretty cheap. Has a hitch too.
>>> 
>>> —FT
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
 On Jul 13, 2024, at 9:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via 
 Mercedes  wrote:
 
 Yes a good deal. If I’m not mistaken the DPF should be under warranty 
 from the recall.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/829177899173539/
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[MBZ] Fwd: Diagnostic report of Mercedes

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

The transmission speed sensor fault that this shows….possible cause of the intermittent limp mode? For my W163…’04 Ml350









Dear customer,

has given you a diagnostic report from the product(SN:960744074353), please check it!

Click here to download the diagnostic
 report


Best regards,

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Re: [MBZ] Overpriced diesel gas

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Are these OM642?

AZBob

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Mercedes 
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2024 8:27 AM
To: Okie Benz 
Cc: dan penoff.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overpriced diesel gas

Didn’t notice it’s got a trailer hitch. Another plus!

-D

On Jul 12, 2024, at 6:09 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

This one out here is similar:

<https://www.facebook.com/share/tm7iaoJsHzwdyQWy/>
<442492614_122100670544337180_968688003151781952_n.jpg>
2008 Mercedes-Benz M-Class · ML 320 CDI Sport Utility 
4D<https://www.facebook.com/share/tm7iaoJsHzwdyQWy/>
facebook.com<https://www.facebook.com/share/tm7iaoJsHzwdyQWy/>

If I could just get the seller to do more than give me the VIN. I feel that 
he’s one of those guys that will not engage or answer any questions unless the 
question is where can I come look at it.

AZBob

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On Jul 12, 2024, at 5:35 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Looks fairly nice, not too crazy

—FT

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On Jul 12, 2024, at 8:12 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/share/jXzyi9hyHDNw9XXk/?mibextid=79PoIi

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody like poos needs to save this

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Hey...tinworm gotta eat...

AZBob

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody like poos needs to save this

Save it for what? Propagating rust? Making more soda cans?

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Overpriced diesel gas

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This one out here is similar:2008 Mercedes-Benz M-Class · ML 320 CDI Sport Utility 4Dfacebook.comIf I could just get the seller to do more than give me the VIN. I feel that he’s one of those guys that will not engage or answer any questions unless the question is where can I come look at it.AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 12, 2024, at 5:35 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  wrote:Looks fairly nice, not too crazy—FTSent from my iPadOn Jul 12, 2024, at 8:12 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  wrote:https://www.facebook.com/share/jXzyi9hyHDNw9XXk/?mibextid=79PoIiSent from my iPhone___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___
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Re: [MBZ] begje interior

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

If I can get the seller to answer, and I get relieved of my grandpa duty watch, 
I think I might run over and look at it. 

AZBob

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> On Jul 11, 2024, at 11:30 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2024, at 1:04 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Seller won't answer the oil cooler question I asked but he did supply the 
>> VIN so I ran a Carfax.
>> 
>> Two prior owners, 90% of all maintenance/services done at dealerships (CA 
>> and WA). One report of "minor" rear end damage in 2016.  Having read through 
>> the Carfax it seems all the important stuff has been done and maintained, no 
>> mention of oil cooler work.
>> 
>> It's probably worth a look you reckon?
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> From: Bob Rentfro 
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 12:49 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] begje interior
>> 
>> I've reached out to the seller. Nothing yet.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Floyd Thursby 
>> via Mercedes 
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 12:45 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
>> Cc: Floyd Thursby 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] begje interior
>> 
>> Looks like a good deal if it checks out
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>>> On 7/10/24 12:08 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Very nice conditions. Everything else feels good
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/share/tm7iaoJsHzwdyQWy/
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] begje interior

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Seller won't answer the oil cooler question I asked but he did supply the VIN 
so I ran a Carfax.

Two prior owners, 90% of all maintenance/services done at dealerships (CA and 
WA). One report of "minor" rear end damage in 2016.  Having read through the 
Carfax it seems all the important stuff has been done and maintained, no 
mention of oil cooler work.

It's probably worth a look you reckon?

AZBob

From: Bob Rentfro 
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 12:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] begje interior

I've reached out to the seller. Nothing yet.

AZBob

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Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 12:45 PM
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Cc: Floyd Thursby 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] begje interior

Looks like a good deal if it checks out

--FT

On 7/10/24 12:08 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> Very nice conditions. Everything else feels good
>
> https://www.facebook.com/share/tm7iaoJsHzwdyQWy/
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Re: [MBZ] begje interior

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I've reached out to the seller. Nothing yet.

AZBob

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Looks like a good deal if it checks out

--FT

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[MBZ] Want to Tackle a Fuel Delivery Issue?

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https://www.facebook.com/share/DDfjTzHmFyhWnC52/

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[MBZ] Tidy ML

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[MBZ] begje interior

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Very nice conditions. Everything else feels good

https://www.facebook.com/share/tm7iaoJsHzwdyQWy/

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[MBZ] An Odd Duck

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Thans FBMP for making these old things randomly pop up on my feed.

This is interesting.

https://www.facebook.com/share/kHYSdB9BGZNSwk7g/

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[MBZ] One of a Kind

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...unique vehicle with NO GLOVE compartment!

https://www.facebook.com/share/CdU4Y3Wb1TK9vds7/

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Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Yes, 722.6. 
I buy a dipstick when I buy a car as a matter of course. 

AZBob

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> On Jul 10, 2024, at 6:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> yes, but you need a dipstick to measure the actual fluid level.  It's a 
> generic thing, available for cheap on Amazon or ebay.  And to make sure we 
> are talking about a 722.6 trans in a 163, correct?
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 7/10/24 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> So quantifying how much comes out should be how much you put back and then 
>> top off as needed, yes?
>> My graduated clear bucket has a leak, dear ‘Liza. Better get its replacement.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 9:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via 
>>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A full fill is like 9L
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2024, at 12:37 AM, Buggered 
>>>> Benzmail  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That’s a 722.9 CP
>>>> 
>>>> --FT
>>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 9:57 PM, Allan Streib via 
>>>>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>>>> $200 dealer part?
>>>>> 
>>>>> FCP Euro wants $950. Or is this something different?
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-transmission-conductor-plate-genuine-mercedes-0002702600
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, at 18:35, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> I’m the meantime I have replaced many of them, 2 just in the last
>>>>>> month.  Once little secret I will give. Don’t buy the $200 dealer part,
>>>>>> as far as I can tell and have researched the $60 kit all over eBay is
>>>>>> the exact same part. I have used many of these and never had a problem.
>>>>>> I don’t use the filter, connector plug etc that comes in the kit though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 5:26 PM, dan penoff.com via 
>>>>>>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>>>>>> I’ve been corresponding with AZBob on this, although I have little to 
>>>>>>> no experience with swapping out conductor plates, I gave him the 
>>>>>>> lowdown on what to expect when he scans the car for the first time. A 
>>>>>>> lot of cruft, most likely, which after running a report to capture 
>>>>>>> everything he should clear all codes, then drive the car for a few days 
>>>>>>> at least if it doesn’t goof up. At that point call it an anomaly, 
>>>>>>> hitting the shifter to the “manual” side, or heat, who knows? Or, if 
>>>>>>> things really are going south or potentially borked, the scan he’ll do 
>>>>>>> in a few days after clearing out the cruft will reveal what’s going on 
>>>>>>> in the present.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’m no proponent of cheap Chinesium scanners, but for the $150 or so 
>>>>>>> that one costs, the amount of information you can get from it even if 
>>>>>>> you’re not planning on doing the work yourself, is invaluable. I 
>>>>>>> especially like the one I recommended to AZBob, as it has a built-in 
>>>>>>> feature that allows you to email a copy of the scan results with codes 
>>>>>>> and links to OBDII resources if it’s an OBDII code. I know Floyd had 
>>>>>>> one that borked, but mine has held up just fine with limited use.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -D
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 2:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via 
>>>>>>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This suggests a failing CP given it might be temperature related. But 
>>>>>>>> check the cable and connectors first before doing anything else.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --FT
>>>>>>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 1:42 PM, Bob Rentfro via 
>>>>>>>>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I'm waiting

Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2024, at 6:31 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> 
> So quantifying how much comes out should be how much you put back and then 
> top off as needed, yes?
> My graduated clear bucket has a leak, dear ‘Liza. Better get its replacement.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 9:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A full fill is like 9L
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2024, at 12:37 AM, Buggered Benzmail 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That’s a 722.9 CP
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 9:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> $200 dealer part?
>>>> 
>>>> FCP Euro wants $950. Or is this something different?
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-transmission-conductor-plate-genuine-mercedes-0002702600
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, at 18:35, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> I’m the meantime I have replaced many of them, 2 just in the last
>>>>> month.  Once little secret I will give. Don’t buy the $200 dealer part,
>>>>> as far as I can tell and have researched the $60 kit all over eBay is
>>>>> the exact same part. I have used many of these and never had a problem.
>>>>> I don’t use the filter, connector plug etc that comes in the kit though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 5:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ve been corresponding with AZBob on this, although I have little to 
>>>>>> no experience with swapping out conductor plates, I gave him the lowdown 
>>>>>> on what to expect when he scans the car for the first time. A lot of 
>>>>>> cruft, most likely, which after running a report to capture everything 
>>>>>> he should clear all codes, then drive the car for a few days at least if 
>>>>>> it doesn’t goof up. At that point call it an anomaly, hitting the 
>>>>>> shifter to the “manual” side, or heat, who knows? Or, if things really 
>>>>>> are going south or potentially borked, the scan he’ll do in a few days 
>>>>>> after clearing out the cruft will reveal what’s going on in the present.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m no proponent of cheap Chinesium scanners, but for the $150 or so 
>>>>>> that one costs, the amount of information you can get from it even if 
>>>>>> you’re not planning on doing the work yourself, is invaluable. I 
>>>>>> especially like the one I recommended to AZBob, as it has a built-in 
>>>>>> feature that allows you to email a copy of the scan results with codes 
>>>>>> and links to OBDII resources if it’s an OBDII code. I know Floyd had one 
>>>>>> that borked, but mine has held up just fine with limited use.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -D
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 2:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This suggests a failing CP given it might be temperature related. But 
>>>>>>> check the cable and connectors first before doing anything else.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --FT
>>>>>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 1:42 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm waiting on the scanner to arrive so I can validate the diagnosis 
>>>>>>>> before I order parts.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Or, order parts now and just do it because it will likely kack in the 
>>>>>>>> future?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> AZBob
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Buggered 
>>>>>>>> Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2024 4:55 AM
>>>>>>>>

Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

So quantifying how much comes out should be how much you put back and then top 
off as needed, yes? 
My graduated clear bucket has a leak, dear ‘Liza. Better get its replacement. 

AZBob 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2024, at 9:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A full fill is like 9L
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2024, at 12:37 AM, Buggered Benzmail  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That’s a 722.9 CP
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 9:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> $200 dealer part?
>>> 
>>> FCP Euro wants $950. Or is this something different?
>>> 
>>> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-transmission-conductor-plate-genuine-mercedes-0002702600
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, at 18:35, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> I’m the meantime I have replaced many of them, 2 just in the last
>>>> month.  Once little secret I will give. Don’t buy the $200 dealer part,
>>>> as far as I can tell and have researched the $60 kit all over eBay is
>>>> the exact same part. I have used many of these and never had a problem.
>>>> I don’t use the filter, connector plug etc that comes in the kit though.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 5:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve been corresponding with AZBob on this, although I have little to no 
>>>>> experience with swapping out conductor plates, I gave him the lowdown on 
>>>>> what to expect when he scans the car for the first time. A lot of cruft, 
>>>>> most likely, which after running a report to capture everything he should 
>>>>> clear all codes, then drive the car for a few days at least if it doesn’t 
>>>>> goof up. At that point call it an anomaly, hitting the shifter to the 
>>>>> “manual” side, or heat, who knows? Or, if things really are going south 
>>>>> or potentially borked, the scan he’ll do in a few days after clearing out 
>>>>> the cruft will reveal what’s going on in the present.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m no proponent of cheap Chinesium scanners, but for the $150 or so that 
>>>>> one costs, the amount of information you can get from it even if you’re 
>>>>> not planning on doing the work yourself, is invaluable. I especially like 
>>>>> the one I recommended to AZBob, as it has a built-in feature that allows 
>>>>> you to email a copy of the scan results with codes and links to OBDII 
>>>>> resources if it’s an OBDII code. I know Floyd had one that borked, but 
>>>>> mine has held up just fine with limited use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -D
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 2:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This suggests a failing CP given it might be temperature related. But 
>>>>>> check the cable and connectors first before doing anything else.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --FT
>>>>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 1:42 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm waiting on the scanner to arrive so I can validate the diagnosis 
>>>>>>> before I order parts.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Or, order parts now and just do it because it will likely kack in the 
>>>>>>> future?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> AZBob
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Buggered 
>>>>>>> Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2024 4:55 AM
>>>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>>>>>> Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Scan it and see if you have solenoid codes.  Any codes would suggest 
>>>>>>> inability for TCM to talk to the conductor plate (I’m assuming 163?). 
>>>>>>> The TCM is under the steering wheel a bit to the left, you can pop off 
&

Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Yes that’s a different one. Here’s the correct one:Mercedes 722.6 Conductor Plate Transmission Service Kit - OE Supplier 7226CSKfcpeuro.comAZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 9, 2024, at 6:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  wrote:$200 dealer part?FCP Euro wants $950. Or is this something different?https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-transmission-conductor-plate-genuine-mercedes-0002702600On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, at 18:35, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:I’m the meantime I have replaced many of them, 2 just in the last month.  Once little secret I will give. Don’t buy the $200 dealer part, as far as I can tell and have researched the $60 kit all over eBay is the exact same part. I have used many of these and never had a problem. I don’t use the filter, connector plug etc that comes in the kit though.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 9, 2024, at 5:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes  wrote:I’ve been corresponding with AZBob on this, although I have little to no experience with swapping out conductor plates, I gave him the lowdown on what to expect when he scans the car for the first time. A lot of cruft, most likely, which after running a report to capture everything he should clear all codes, then drive the car for a few days at least if it doesn’t goof up. At that point call it an anomaly, hitting the shifter to the “manual” side, or heat, who knows? Or, if things really are going south or potentially borked, the scan he’ll do in a few days after clearing out the cruft will reveal what’s going on in the present.I’m no proponent of cheap Chinesium scanners, but for the $150 or so that one costs, the amount of information you can get from it even if you’re not planning on doing the work yourself, is invaluable. I especially like the one I recommended to AZBob, as it has a built-in feature that allows you to email a copy of the scan results with codes and links to OBDII resources if it’s an OBDII code. I know Floyd had one that borked, but mine has held up just fine with limited use.-DOn Jul 9, 2024, at 2:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  wrote:This suggests a failing CP given it might be temperature related. But check the cable and connectors first before doing anything else.--FTSent from iFōnOn Jul 9, 2024, at 1:42 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:I'm waiting on the scanner to arrive so I can validate the diagnosis before I order parts.Or, order parts now and just do it because it will likely kack in the future?AZBobFrom: Mercedes  on behalf of Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2024 4:55 AMTo: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Buggered Benzmail Subject: Re: [MBZ] Limp ModeScan it and see if you have solenoid codes.  Any codes would suggest inability for TCM to talk to the conductor plate (I’m assuming 163?). The TCM is under the steering wheel a bit to the left, you can pop off the connector and see if there is any fluid that has wicked up. If not check the connector at the transmission for fluid inside it. If those are dry it’s likely CP time which on a 722.6 is not expensive but a bit of a bother to swap (not as much as 722.9). Figure $200-250 for new CP and fluid and filter (which you should do anyway if it’s been awhile).  Plenty of utubers on how to do the job. Valvoline Maxlife is a fluid you can use.—FTSent from my iPadOn Jul 9, 2024, at 1:43 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:After going to the Diamondbacks game to watch another crushing defeat, I got in the ML and started driving home and it wouldn’t shift out of what felt like second gear. I initially noticed it was very sluggish taking off (like it was taking off in second). I’m guessing that’s limp mode. No nasty lights on the dash.Drove home taking surface streets.  Ugh.Now what?AZBobSent from my iPhone___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

So what I’m reading is:

ebay CP
OE connector
OE filter 
and then…
pan gasket 
plug gasket
fluid

AZBob

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> On Jul 9, 2024, at 3:46 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Gotcha. I wondered, since the connector is the first line of defense when it 
> comes to ATF wicking up the harness. They used to be pretty cheap atthe 
> stealership, like $10-$12. I’m sure they’re more now, but still cheap 
> insurance. I like the idea of doing it during a filter change.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 3:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I usually do it anytime I do a CP. might be overkill but usually do it when 
>> doing a filter change also.  OE yes. The cheap ones never seem to work right.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 5:39 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve heard similar stories, good to know. Do you still replace the 
>>> connector anyway using an OE part? I would if they’re still cheap. Or only 
>>> if it’s been soaked in ATF?
>>> 
>>> I’ve done the connector, which isn’t hard, but you really have to be 
>>> careful not to overtighten it.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 3:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m the meantime I have replaced many of them, 2 just in the last month.  
>>>> Once little secret I will give. Don’t buy the $200 dealer part, as far as 
>>>> I can tell and have researched the $60 kit all over eBay is the exact same 
>>>> part. I have used many of these and never had a problem. I don’t use the 
>>>> filter, connector plug etc that comes in the kit though.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 5:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve been corresponding with AZBob on this, although I have little to no 
>>>>> experience with swapping out conductor plates, I gave him the lowdown on 
>>>>> what to expect when he scans the car for the first time. A lot of cruft, 
>>>>> most likely, which after running a report to capture everything he should 
>>>>> clear all codes, then drive the car for a few days at least if it doesn’t 
>>>>> goof up. At that point call it an anomaly, hitting the shifter to the 
>>>>> “manual” side, or heat, who knows? Or, if things really are going south 
>>>>> or potentially borked, the scan he’ll do in a few days after clearing out 
>>>>> the cruft will reveal what’s going on in the present.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m no proponent of cheap Chinesium scanners, but for the $150 or so that 
>>>>> one costs, the amount of information you can get from it even if you’re 
>>>>> not planning on doing the work yourself, is invaluable. I especially like 
>>>>> the one I recommended to AZBob, as it has a built-in feature that allows 
>>>>> you to email a copy of the scan results with codes and links to OBDII 
>>>>> resources if it’s an OBDII code. I know Floyd had one that borked, but 
>>>>> mine has held up just fine with limited use.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -D
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 2:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This suggests a failing CP given it might be temperature related. But 
>>>>>> check the cable and connectors first before doing anything else.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --FT
>>>>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2024, at 1:42 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm waiting on the scanner to arrive so I can validate the diagnosis 
>>>>>>> before I order parts.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Or, order parts now and just do it because it will likely kack in the 
>>>>>>> future?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> AZBob
>>>>>>> ____________
>>>>>>> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Buggered 
>>>>>>> Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2024 4:55 AM
>>>>>

Re: [MBZ] Again, With the Torbo

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Stop the presses!!
He just dropped it to $9,500! 

AZBob

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> On Jul 8, 2024, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> These coupes seem to be big money these days.  With the lowish miles and if 
> it is in good condition, $10k might not be too crazy of a price especially 
> since it is a 85. I would prefer $8k, but in reality my goal would be $4k.
> 
>> On 7/8/2024 4:10 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> Here is what the seller replied when I asked all the requisite questions:
>> 
>> “I have no information other than this. John, who died, bought the car for 
>> $17,000 just before he died. It was delivered to the house parked for at 
>> least 2 1/2 years but was started on occasion.  As far as I know, John never 
>> got to drive it.
>>  I have driven the car from the back yard to the front yard. “
>> 
>> Interesting….
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 8, 2024, at 1:44 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I can't shake this one from my brain. I  might go give it a look with money 
>>> in my pocket but it's so hard to get motivated to do anything outdoors (114 
>>> at this present moment, on its way to 118).
>>> 
>>> Someone said $5K would be reasonable? I'm not sure how quickly a vehicle 
>>> unloads in an estate sale. What are coupe red flags?
>>> 
>>> I also noticed, this second time looking at it, that there seems to be 
>>> grease oozing from the driver's front hub. Big deal? Can't say I've ever 
>>> seen that before.
>>> 
>>> Never had a coupe. But I certainly don't want to latch on to something that 
>>> is going to be more of a headache than having a 45 year old car already is.
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/share/1u8XbVsif3SpK8sR/
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> Log in or sign up to view <https://www.facebook.com/share/1u8XbVsif3SpK8sR/>
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>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

And, of course, I decided to hop in the ML and drive it up to the Walgreens to see if the issue is still an issue and I suppose you all know exactly what happened…..It drives perfectly normal now.When the scanner arrives I will see what I’m working with. AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 9, 2024, at 10:41 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:






I'm waiting on the scanner to arrive so I can validate the diagnosis before I order parts. 




Or, order parts now and just do it because it will likely kack in the future? 




AZBob 


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2024 4:55 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode
 


Scan it and see if you have solenoid codes.  Any codes would suggest inability for TCM to talk to the conductor plate (I’m assuming 163?). The TCM is under the steering wheel a bit to the left, you can pop off the connector and see if
 there is any fluid that has wicked up. If not check the connector at the transmission for fluid inside it. If those are dry it’s likely CP time which on a 722.6 is not expensive but a bit of a bother to swap (not as much as 722.9). Figure $200-250 for new
 CP and fluid and filter (which you should do anyway if it’s been awhile).  Plenty of utubers on how to do the job. Valvoline Maxlife is a fluid you can use.


—FT

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> On Jul 9, 2024, at 1:43 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> After going to the Diamondbacks game to watch another crushing defeat, I got in the ML and started driving home and it wouldn’t shift out of what felt like second gear. I initially noticed it was very sluggish taking off (like it was taking off in second).
 I’m guessing that’s limp mode. No nasty lights on the dash.  
> Drove home taking surface streets.  Ugh. 
> 
> Now what?
> 
> AZBob
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I'm waiting on the scanner to arrive so I can validate the diagnosis before I 
order parts.

Or, order parts now and just do it because it will likely kack in the future?

AZBob

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Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

Scan it and see if you have solenoid codes.  Any codes would suggest inability 
for TCM to talk to the conductor plate (I’m assuming 163?). The TCM is under 
the steering wheel a bit to the left, you can pop off the connector and see if 
there is any fluid that has wicked up. If not check the connector at the 
transmission for fluid inside it. If those are dry it’s likely CP time which on 
a 722.6 is not expensive but a bit of a bother to swap (not as much as 722.9). 
Figure $200-250 for new CP and fluid and filter (which you should do anyway if 
it’s been awhile).  Plenty of utubers on how to do the job. Valvoline Maxlife 
is a fluid you can use.

—FT

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> On Jul 9, 2024, at 1:43 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
> After going to the Diamondbacks game to watch another crushing defeat, I got 
> in the ML and started driving home and it wouldn’t shift out of what felt 
> like second gear. I initially noticed it was very sluggish taking off (like 
> it was taking off in second). I’m guessing that’s limp mode. No nasty lights 
> on the dash.
> Drove home taking surface streets.  Ugh.
>
> Now what?
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] You Want Patina?

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Here ya go.

https://www.facebook.com/share/T1s4BNETCcA8Q3D4/

AZBob
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[MBZ] O.T. Be The Envy of You Neighbors

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https://www.facebook.com/share/wtnLhtstaEcocMHD/

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[MBZ] Not Crazy For a Change

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Finally, a reasonably priced 300D

https://www.facebook.com/share/rUmRJogUYAshG4Xy/

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[MBZ] Limp Mode

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

After going to the Diamondbacks game to watch another crushing defeat, I got in 
the ML and started driving home and it wouldn’t shift out of what felt like 
second gear. I initially noticed it was very sluggish taking off (like it was 
taking off in second). I’m guessing that’s limp mode. No nasty lights on the 
dash.  
Drove home taking surface streets.  Ugh. 

Now what?

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] Again, With the Torbo

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Here is what the seller replied when I asked all the requisite questions:“I have no information other than this. John, who died, bought the car for $17,000 just before he died. It was delivered to the house parked for at least 2 1/2 years but was started on occasion.  As far as I know, John never got to drive it. I have driven the car from the back yard to the front yard. “Interesting….AZBobSent from my iPhoneOn Jul 8, 2024, at 1:44 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:






I can't shake this one from my brain. I  might go give it a look with money in my pocket but it's so hard to get motivated to do anything outdoors (114 at this present moment, on its way to 118).




Someone said $5K would be reasonable? I'm not sure how quickly a vehicle unloads in an estate sale. What are coupe red flags?




I also noticed, this second time looking at it, that there seems to be grease oozing from the driver's front hub. Big deal? Can't say I've ever seen that before.




Never had a coupe. But I certainly don't want to latch on to something that is going to be more of a headache than having a 45 year old car already is.




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[MBZ] Again, With the Torbo

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I can't shake this one from my brain. I  might go give it a look with money in 
my pocket but it's so hard to get motivated to do anything outdoors (114 at 
this present moment, on its way to 118).

Someone said $5K would be reasonable? I'm not sure how quickly a vehicle 
unloads in an estate sale. What are coupe red flags?

I also noticed, this second time looking at it, that there seems to be grease 
oozing from the driver's front hub. Big deal? Can't say I've ever seen that 
before.

Never had a coupe. But I certainly don't want to latch on to something that is 
going to be more of a headache than having a 45 year old car already is.

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[MBZ] Very Low Miles

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Not much to go on here.

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Re: [MBZ] Is This a Good Deal for Anyone Needing Such Thing?

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Seller says:

Hi, the brand is "A-Premium" I believe they are pretty common on amazon

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> On Jul 7, 2024, at 11:14 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> Depends on what brand it is. No info on that. If it’s cheap chinee part 
> might be worth having as a spare to get you home. How much would shipping be 
> from there to the coastal area?
> 
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>> On Jul 5, 2024, at 12:59 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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>> Front strut for W164
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/share/wNARXXqSJyqPVNVE/
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[MBZ] O.T. Dash Cams

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I will be testing the waters of dash camism. I bought an inexpensive cam from 
the Big Girls and it came supplied with a cigarette lighter power cord. 
Now can I lop that plug off and hard wire the cord utilizing fuse taps?

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Re: [MBZ] Is This a Good Deal for Anyone Needing Such Thing?

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I have no idea on postage. I asked seller the manufacturer. Let’s see if he 
answers.

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> On Jul 7, 2024, at 11:14 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> Depends on what brand it is. No info on that. If it’s cheap chinee part 
> might be worth having as a spare to get you home. How much would shipping be 
> from there to the coastal area?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2024, at 12:59 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
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>> Front strut for W164
>> 
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[MBZ] It's a Torbo

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What should this be negotiated down to?

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[MBZ] Do You Have Any Loose Doors Lying About?

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Such an odd place to stop and take pictures

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Re: [MBZ] FIRM PRICE non negotiable. 350 SDL. 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300 sd Sedan 4D, $9, 500

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Dang…I’d drive that despite the colors. 

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> On Jul 6, 2024, at 12:52 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> Bland colors but looks good
> 
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[MBZ] O.T. A Random 'hood Find

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Pack heat and take either your fluent Spanglish or an interpreter. I suppose 
these require an artesian well of funds much like a Rolls.

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Re: [MBZ] 09S550 update

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Buy ‘em, give ‘em the attention they need, drive ‘em. That’s how it should be. 

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> On Jul 5, 2024, at 6:01 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
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> 
> Sounds like a truly awesome ride!! Winner winner chicken dinner!
> Kevin in Lexington NC
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>> On Jul 5, 2024, at 6:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I had ordered stuff to fix the $2500 09S550 -- headlight bulb, brake pads 
>> (break pats), AC blower, front axles, and a lower control arm (ball joint on 
>> one was shot).
>> 
>> Rear brake pads were fairly simple, I did have to remove the calipers but 
>> not a big deal, just required a bit of persuasion.  Rotors were good.  Front 
>> break pads were fine, looked nearly new.
>> 
>> Headlight bulb required removal of wheel and fender liner but then was easy 
>> to swap over.  I had the wheel off anyway to check the brakes.
>> 
>> The AC blower was pretty crapped up and somewhat corroded on the squirrel 
>> cage shafts so I cleaned all that up.  The diagnostic said the regulator was 
>> bad so I ordered another of those along with another fan.  After putting all 
>> that in, still no joy, so I checked the 40A fan fuse, which tested OK for 
>> continuity.  I swapped another one in anyway, and presto! JOY was had as the 
>> fan started working.  I kept the new fan in but put the old regulator back 
>> in and kept the new one for a spare, was only like $35.  I kept the old fan, 
>> even with cleaning it all and lubing it well, it was still a little slow.
>> 
>> The axles were a real pain.  I made up the tool I shared to use with the 
>> slide hammer kit I borrowed from the auto parts store.  Finally worked. 
>> Putting in the new ones required a lot of finessing due to how much room 
>> there was along next to the LCA to slide the spline into the hub.  Not fun.  
>> I also had a huge problem with the nut on the end of the air strut, there is 
>> a torx hole in the end to hold the bolt end of the fitting to keep the whole 
>> thing from turning, and of course that stripped out.  Took forever to get it 
>> sorted, had to order new bolts (which were the wrong size), a tap and die 
>> set (14mx1.50 should you care) to chase the bolt and nut.  Lots of torching 
>> etc to get it all loosened up and on and off.  I finally got it all back 
>> together.  The new LCA fit in pretty easily.
>> 
>> Did a quick shakedown drive and all seemed great, axles were good, no 
>> rattles or looseness.  I did have no ABS/ESP due to wheel speed sensor fault 
>> and an airmatic fault for RF wheel.  I had a wheel speed sensor so put that 
>> in right quick.  Both sensors plug into a socket together, I messed with 
>> them some but still had the fault.  Not sure what that is about, seems like 
>> some sort of connectivity issue but I couldn't see anything.  I could drive 
>> the car but no cruise control, and the airmatic seemed fine.
>> 
>> Next day I drove it to Missisippi, about 500mi the first day, then the rest 
>> of the distance the second day.  I made a stop in Augusta to pick up 3 
>> wheels, I found 2 others wider for rear, so now I have a staggered set plus 
>> a spare.  Nice AMG design wheels. I hope they fit the rear without rubbing 
>> on the fenders.  I was a bit concerned about the difference in circumference 
>> of front/back due to tire sizes to fit the different width rims and how it 
>> might affect the 4matic but reading up on it it seems like it should be OK.  
>> Not going to put them on any time soon anyway but they do look nice. The 
>> tires that came with the car are only like 1.5yo now, good BFGs.
>> 
>> Had no cruise control which was a bit of a pain, watching my speed 
>> constantly because 90 felt like sitting in an easy chair and it was easy to 
>> creep up on that if not paying attention.  Traffic was moving 80-85 most of 
>> the way so I kinda just went with the flow.  (I did have a couple of ohshit 
>> moments when I passed a cop hiding in the median)  AC BLEW ICE COLD which 
>> was good because it was 90s-100F most of the time.  No issues whatsoever 
>> with the car other than those sensor problems.
>> 
>> I got like 21-24+mpg running at 80+/- the whole way plus some other highway 
>> driving 60-70.  That is pretty damn good for a big car with a big engine.
>> 
>> Miles. Gal. MPG
>> 458.9 19.2 23.9
>> 312.2 15.1 20.7
>> 170.3 8.1 21.0
>> 129.3 6.1 21.2
>> 233.1 10.4 22.4
>> 342.0 14.0 24.4
>> 192.7 9.3 20.7
>> 
>> Roads in MS were really good, AL almost as good, GA OK, SC sux big time. You 
>> would think "poorer" states would be worse but I was really surprised.
>> 
>> So anyway that was 1800mi or so of driving, the car was amazing.  I am 
>> totally in love with it.  Big, fast, comfortable, quiet, everything you want 
>> a Sonder-Klasse to be.  Huge amount of trunk space, huge back seat space.  
>> And the black/black W221 looks amazing too, lots of "presence."  I am tall 
>> so have my seat all the way back so I can stretch my leg

Re: [MBZ] On Kleb's XMas wish list

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That would certainly help in keeping The Acres tidy. 

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[MBZ] I May Have Thrown Up in My mouth a Little

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This makes boy child's CRV interior look like an OR.

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[MBZ] Will Need Forever Regular Maintenance

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Knock a grand off, good deal.

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[MBZ] This Isn't a Correct Color, is it?

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Look nice, nonetheless.

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[MBZ] Dan...Want Seed for an OkieAcres - NoAZ Location?

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Cheap at twice the price:

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[MBZ] Is This a Good Deal for Anyone Needing Such Thing?

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Front strut for W164

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[MBZ] O.T. Non MB Related Crack Fueled Hallucinations

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"A great opportunity for someone that may have a vision"

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Re: [MBZ] huh. OOOOO KKKKK -- I'm sick and tired of window shoppers playing around in my inbox.

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Maybe they were going for the modern version of The Beverly Hillbillies with 
the duvet or davenport taking the place of the rockers that Granny and Ellie 
Mae sat in.

AZBob

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> On Jul 4, 2024, at 2:20 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> Well, ya gotta give them an “A” for effort!
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 4, 2024, at 2:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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>> There is so much wrong here I don't know where to start
>> 
>> 
>> 2000 Mercedes-Benz clk-class CLK 430 Cabriolet 2D
>> 
>> $1,000
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Geez

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The wheels are like a rhetorical question. It’s a given they are incorrect and 
icky. 

AZBob 

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> On Jul 3, 2024, at 5:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> Alloys are not right on these. They need the aluminum color-keyed wheel 
> covers.
> 
> -D
> 
> On Jul 3, 2024, at 4:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> I agree
> 
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> On Jul 3, 2024, at 6:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
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> 
> Alloy wheels on this car is an abomination.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 7:50 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> The 115 has the black plastic wheel with the chrome center ring and small 
> center horn pad. I’m not sure how I feel about them, I prefer the 74 and up 
> wheel.
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>> On Jul 3, 2024, at 6:42 PM, dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com/> via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Agreed. The off-white Bakelite steering wheel that was on the W110/111/112 
>> models was a thing of beauty. I don’t recall the same on the W114/115, but 
>> there could very well have been the same on early models, I guess? I am 
>> pretty sure my 250C had a Bakelite wheel (1970) but it was black.
>> 
>> Hmmm.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>>> On Jul 3, 2024, at 3:23 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> But there has always been something about the later steering wheel with the 
>>> W115 dash that hasn’t sat well with me.
>>> 
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>>>>> On Jul 3, 2024, at 3:01 PM, dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com/> via 
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>>>> They no what they got.
>>>> 
>>>> That said, it is a nice looking car. I think $8k, may $8.5k would be more 
>>>> in line, but I haven’t followed prices on these of late and the low miles 
>>>> make it a true Dean candidate.
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Geez

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But there has always been something about the later steering wheel with the 
W115 dash that hasn’t sat well with me. 

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> They no what they got.
> 
> That said, it is a nice looking car. I think $8k, may $8.5k would be more in 
> line, but I haven’t followed prices on these of late and the low miles make 
> it a true Dean candidate.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Geez

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What’s that, about two hours away? 

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> Well. That appears to be a hell of a nice car but overpriced IMO. Maybe not. 
> I might actually be interested at $8k or so. Or it could be a polished turd.
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>> On Jul 3, 2024, at 4:44 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
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>> Yikes. I want aware that Arkansas was a hotbed of vintage, pricey , German 
>> Iron.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Geez

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Yikes. I want aware that Arkansas was a hotbed of vintage, pricey , German 
Iron. 

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[MBZ] Milage is,244,400

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

It is a project car meaning It needs a convertible soft or hard top.

What an abomination.

https://www.facebook.com/share/iQ8eNsxPxwLTPbAE/

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[MBZ] O.T. Rusty

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Rusty just sent me a friend request on FB. 
Where ever he is must have good wifi. 

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[MBZ] No Low Balls

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Only leaks when I drive to fast

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[MBZ] Mint condition. Mint condition. Mint condition

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Mint condition, other than the swipe on the drivers side!!
Mint condition must see.
Car came all the way from San Francisco driving perfect with the accident.

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Re: [MBZ] This is nice

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Probably the correct choice. If it were to check out it should be snapped up 
since they are getting scarce in that condition…again…if it checks out. 

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>> On Jun 29, 2024, at 6:44 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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>> I don’t know who you are, but send Kleb back!!!
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>>>> On Jun 29, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>>>> On 6/29/2024 6:31 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
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>>>> driver.
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>>>>> On Jun 29, 2024, at 4:23 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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>>>>> And hardly broke in!
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Re: [MBZ] This is nice

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Hahaha. Right? 
Is Regina intercepting and rewriting your posts?

AZBob

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>> On Jun 29, 2024, at 4:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>> I would like to, but I really need to get some cars sold before I buy more.
>> 
>>> On 6/29/2024 6:31 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
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>>> driver.
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>>> AZBob
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Jun 29, 2024, at 4:23 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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>>>> And hardly broke in!
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Re: [MBZ] This is nice

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Maybe you oughta scoot over to Mustang and pick that up. That’d be a nice 
driver. 

AZBob

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