[MBZ] Back to 124 Daily Driver

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

 
I inherited a car and had too many cars – 4 to be specific.  I decided I needed 
to consolidate.  I sold my 2022 F150 and I am taking my 81 Cadillac to a car 
show at the end of the month and a buyer is meeting me.  He wanted the car 
earlier.  The point I am getting to is that I will now be daily driving my 90 
MB 300E.  Sometimes I forget how nice the 124 is to drive!
 
I did find an 82 300TD (123 diesel wagon) that looks great.  They want $20K for 
it with only 115K miles and it’s a two owner.  I know that’s a lot of money, 
but these have been going for crazy money.  It makes me think there is 
something wrong with it.  I have had 123 diesels before.  But, never had a 
wagon.  Assuming the rear suspension is good, isn’t that the big thing that is 
unique to the wagons?
 
Don Snook
90 300E 129K 
2021 Toyota Rav4 (her car) 
81 Cadillac Coupe deVille (for now)


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Re: [MBZ] 2006 E500 Wagon -110k miles- $6,800

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That’s not far from me. What are the things to check on these? 

Donald H. Snook


> On Jan 20, 2024, at 2:34 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> Looks nice, price not too crazy for a wagon considering the miles if there 
> are no major issues.
> 
> https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/franklin-2006-mercedes-benz-e500-wagon/7709450213.html
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[MBZ] Oil filler cap leak?

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I have now made a couple speed runs from Memphis to Biloxi, MS running 85-90 on 
the interstate.  I noticed a little bit of oil around the filler cap and pooled 
up a tiny bit by the valve cover gasket.  It is only on the right side (looking 
at the engine).  It looks like it ran down from the oil filler cap. It was only 
a teaspoon or so of oil.  
I think it’s the oil filler cap. Do these leak? Is this common? 

The previous owner used ligui moly 10-40 for the oil.  I’m thinking about using 
Mobil 15-50
(The one with extra zinc for higher mileage) or Delo 15-40.   Any 
recommendations? 

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] Ooookkkk that’s a new one I haven’t seen before

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I thought these were terrible? Is it the later GLE diesels that are so bad?  Or 
have I just heard from the haters. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Oct 5, 2023, at 8:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> I’m going to keep an eye on it
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2023, at 7:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a whole matching interior in great shape. A weekend worth of work…. 
>> How much you think that thing would go for?
>> 
>> Bella No Brainire my dawg!
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Oct 5, 2023, at 8:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://www.copart.com/lot/66306683
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] 71 diesel ambulance?

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This could be an interesting project: 1971 Mercedes-Benz S-Class · 220Sfacebook.com Not for me howeverDonald H. Snook___
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Re: [MBZ] Vintage Excellence: The Impeccable '89 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL Luxury Sed - $1, 019

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Definitely scam. They want responses sent by email. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Oct 4, 2023, at 9:55 AM, Floyd Thursby  wrote:
> 
> 2 pics that aren't very revealing.  I'm thinking SCAMER!
> 
> The body and the paint are in wonderful condition as you can see in the many 
> pictures.
> 
> https://augusta.craigslist.org/cto/d/evans-vintage-excellence-the-impeccable/7672993092.html
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Auxiliary fan?

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Dan wrote: 

> What’s important is that as soon as you start the engine and coolant begins 
> to circulate the temperature should immediately start to drop.

Yes, it dropped as soon as I started it and everything was running.  As my 
grandfather used to say “It dropped like a turd in a well.” 

Ok, so nothing to worry about. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Oct 4, 2023, at 9:29 AM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
> 
> It’s called “hot soaking”.
> 
> All the latent heat built up in the engine has to go somewhere. If you stop 
> circulating coolant and the fan(s), that latent heat has nowhere to go, so it 
> “soaks” the engine, causing it to heat up. What’s important is that as soon 
> as you start the engine and coolant begins to circulate the temperature 
> should immediately start to drop.
> 
> Completely normal and nothing to worry about.
> 
> And no, the W124 does not have a fan that will run after shutdown.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2023, at 10:22 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I noticed when I was driving back this weekend that when I stopped and 
>> turned off the car the temperature of my 124 would climb pretty high.  
>> Running at highway speeds or even in town, it would never get very high. It 
>> was staying below the 100C mark.  It has a new OEM thermostat, the 
>> antifreeze is nice and clean, condenser is not clogged up bugs or dirt, etc. 
>>  
>> 
>> BUT, when I stopped for gas or food when I got back in the temperature was 
>> pretty high. It wasn’t in the red or even past the mark below.  I thought 
>> one of my prior MB’s had an auxiliary cooling fan that would come on even 
>> when the car was off.  Am I “misremembering?” Maybe that was on other cars.  
>> 
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[MBZ] Auxiliary fan?

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I noticed when I was driving back this weekend that when I stopped and turned 
off the car the temperature of my 124 would climb pretty high.  Running at 
highway speeds or even in town, it would never get very high. It was staying 
below the 100C mark.  It has a new OEM thermostat, the antifreeze is nice and 
clean, condenser is not clogged up bugs or dirt, etc.  

BUT, when I stopped for gas or food when I got back in the temperature was 
pretty high. It wasn’t in the red or even past the mark below.  I thought one 
of my prior MB’s had an auxiliary cooling fan that would come on even when the 
car was off.  Am I “misremembering?” Maybe that was on other cars.  

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] Who wants a nice 211 wagon? -- 2008 Mercedes-Benz E350 Wagon - $5, 800 (Myrtle Beach)

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That DOES look very nice. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Oct 3, 2023, at 2:25 PM, Floyd Thursby  wrote:
> 
> This looks very nice
> 
> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/myrtle-beach-2008-mercedes-benz-e350/7672445739.html
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
> 
> 

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[MBZ] 210 v 211 v 212

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According to Dan and Rick the 210 is the Camry of Mercedes.  I was casually 
looking at wagons and found two 211 wagons.  One has 99K on it and is sort of a 
boring beige with dark gray interior.  I’m wondering if the fact that it is 
almost to 100,000 miles that means a bunch of neglected maintenance will be 
due. 

I also found another one that has 155K in it and it half the price.  Silver 
over tan.  The price is good, but when I googled the VIN number, I found it was 
sold at Copart almost 2 months ago with 144K on it.  I don’t think the fact 
that it was sold Copart disqualifies it automatically. But, it does make me 
wonder how it would end up there instead of at a dealer if it’s as nice as it 
looks. 

Both of these are 2009 which I think means they are after the problem with a 
gear/sprocket that is too soft. I don’t know much about that.  Both are also 
4matic and both are gas. 

Finally, I found a 2013 E350 4matoc with 102K. It is obviously the most 
expensive being more than double the cheapest and 150% of the other.  I know 
Zero about the 212.  



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Re: [MBZ] Initial review of 124 after 1500 miles.

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Right. I could do that. But, on the best tank I was using 89 and driving 80 mph 
and got 21.8.  It makes me wonder if 91 is really going to make a difference.  

Donald H. Snook


> On Oct 2, 2023, at 11:40 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> The car requires (?) 91 octane. But, every time I have gotten gas they only 
>> have 93.
> 
> If you know roughly how many gallons you'll be buying, fill up half of that 
> with 87 and then finish off with 93. A bit of a nuisance in that you'll need 
> two transactions.
> 

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[MBZ] Initial review of 124 after 1500 miles.

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I had to drive my recently purchased 90 124 300E on a longish trip.  I drove 
from Memphis to Biloxi, MS and drove a lot down there for a week and drove back 
last night.  

I don’t know if it’s my imagination or if a couple of Italian Tune -Ups made a 
difference.  It seemed to drive better on the way back. 

I drove close to 1000 miles total.  On the way down I was thinking that it 
should feel more powerful.  The last 124 gasser I had was a 95 and the M104 
feels more powerful. 

I haven’t been thrilled with the fuel mileage, but it did improve.  On the way 
down and a few days of in town driving I got 17.8 MPG.   The car requires (?) 
91 octane. But, every time I have gotten gas they only have 93. So, when I was 
on the coast I got 89.  On my drive back I got 19 mpg.  I filled up and checked 
the tires and added a little — up to 37 psi.  On the remaining 300 miles I got 
21.8 and it definitely drove better and felt more powerful.  I cruised for at 
least 100 miles running at 82 mph. 

I guess these car were made for highway cruising.  In town, it feels much less 
powerful than modern cars. 

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] 1968 Mercedes-Benz F20 camper · F20 $15995

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THAT is incredibly cool.  I imagine it is ultra slow and very fun and VERY difficult to find parts. Donald H. SnookOn Sep 17, 2023, at 10:03 PM, Buggered Benzmail  wrote:Very nice. This 1968 Hanomag Mercedes-Benz is Your ticket to an increasingly collectible piece of automotive and engineering history!! to my knowledge this is the only Hanomag camper this year and style in the United States. This is equipped with a working stove, refrigerator, and sink option. It will also sleep two people comfortably. The camper is equipped with a four-cylinder diesel engine mated it to a five speed manual transmission.

The pros. Original paint is in excellent condition, the engine runs exquisitely well. 

The cons . in need of brake work, some minor, cosmetic, fiberglass work, and a new windshield. All parts can be sourced overseas, or manufactured here in the US.

This is the time to add to your collection, be the only one at the car club, or make it your very own Unique beach cruiser. 

I’d be happy to answer any and all questions that you may have. I can also arrange nationwide shipping. 

Interesting Trades welcome 

15,995https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/6571304882953155--FTSent from iFōn
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Re: [MBZ] OT looks very threatening 2007 Freightliner Bus $7900

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That would make a fun camper/ mini RV.  That giant exhaust stack would have to 
go. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:14 PM, Buggered Benzmail  
> wrote:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/265643912998625/?mibextid=6ojiHh
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn

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Re: [MBZ] 2000 Mercedes-Benz M-Class · ML 320 Sport Utility 4D $900

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Somebody had the same idea and bought it already. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 15, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail  
> wrote:
> 
> Bottle jack and a big board will fix that right up
> 
> PARTS CAR OR TO REPAIR 
> RUNS AND DRIVES 
> SOLD AS IS 
> Bought this car to fix the body damage but I am now moving can’t take with me 
> has roof damage from a tree falling on roof everything works doors still 
> close A/C heat works only window that goes down is the passenger not sure why 
> the other ones don’t go down 
> HAS A TITLE but will be selling as a parts car. 
> ENGINE ALONE IS WORTH THE ASKING PRICE SO DONT LOW BALL ME See less
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1041828666841497/?mibextid=6ojiHh
> 
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 250 - W114 Chassis - 1969 Mercedes-Benz,$10,000

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My first Mercedes was a 71 250. It had the floor shifter.  Red with ivory 
interior. I loved that car. It had the 2.8 6 cylinder with the really 
complicated carbs. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 15, 2023, at 5:19 PM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
> 
> Very nice, especially with the floor shifter, I don’t believe those were 
> that common.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 15, 2023, at 5:16 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This looks very nice
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2075261159481058
>> 
>> -- 
>> --FT
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] driven by a grandma to the grocery store, 2000 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 430 Sedan 4D, $65, 000

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I presume the seller has a great sense of humor. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 15, 2023, at 4:28 PM, Floyd Thursby  wrote:
> 
> has a slight dent in the roof
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1042819180468082
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Hybrid’s Batteries

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My friend and Indy got stuck with a 2008 Prius (long story) so he decided to 
just drive it as long as it would last.  The last I talked to him it had over 
400K on it with the original battery.  He did say there was some sort of switch 
related to the battery that he has replaced twice. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 15, 2023, at 12:19 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> 
> Oldest girl, who lives in NoHo (North Hollywood, CA for you less hip humans) 
> is hankering for a car finally. She is thinking hybrid, influenced by her 
> friends’ reports of 40-50 mpg driving around LA. 
> Generally, are the life expectancy of the batteries more influenced by 
> mileage or simply by time? 
> The more I noodle on it I feel that wondering how long the big ass battery 
> will last in a 2007 Prius @133K miles is congruent to wondering how long the 
> mechanicals will last on a 2015 Camry with 75K miles. 
> 
> AZBob 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [MBZ] Picture just for fun

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That’s all Greek to me.  I’m basing it on what I read was the problem it.  
Mechanically it worked. The original owner drove it with the v-8-6-4 still 
active all the way up to 2018 when the second owner disconnected it.  

Perhaps I should amend my original statement to the 1981 Computer Technology 
THAT GM USED was not up to the challenge. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 15, 2023, at 11:37 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> but 1981 computer technology wasn’t up to the job.
> 
> I think I would disagree.  The particular implementation may have been crap,
> but if the necessary mechanical bits were up to the task, the state of the art
> of electronics at that time was perfectly able to keep up.  (And would have 
> needed
> a long development time in order to get all the bugs and quirks out, which I 
> think
> is what went wrong with that engine.  This was a New Thing, and the various
> subsystems might have needed to be mixes of proactive and reactive logic, the
> partitioning and balance could well have been completely wrong in the early 
> designs
> meaning that it might _never_ work right, as initially designed.  It would 
> have been
> a fun engineering challenge, and I'm absolutely confident it could have 
> worked well.
> Eventually.)
> 
> Mind you, that was around when I was actually designing computers for a 
> living.
> And commercial- and mil-spec parts and second sources were still a thing.  
> Programs
> would have been hand-crafted and kilobytes in size, with nothing in there 
> that wasn't
> completely justified, and well understood.  Not like today.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Picture just for fun

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1981 Coupe DeVille — with the V8-6-4.  It was GM’s very early attempt at cylinder deactivation. It was a great idea, but 1981 computer technology wasn’t up to the job.  It was only offered for 1 year.  It’s a great engine 368 Cu (6.0L) once the cylinder deactivation is turned off. This is accomplished by removing one wire. Technically the 368 was used in 1980 also without the cylinder deactivation. They also offered it in the Commercial chassis for a few more years. Donald H. SnookOn Sep 15, 2023, at 11:07 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:Is that a 70s or 80s Caddy?On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 11:38 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:My wife went to the grocery store, so the MB gets to spend a little time in the garage. 



These cars are VERY different! 

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] elderly owned garage kept only 67k original miles 2004 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 320 Sedan 4D, $9, 995

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Dang. If I could talk my wife out of her RAV4, that would make a great car. 
But, that’s the rule. I can do what I want with my cars, just don’t mess with 
hers. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 15, 2023, at 10:19 AM, Floyd Thursby  
> wrote:
> 
> Looks new.  This is about the best combination -- green 320 plus 722.6, a 
> million-mile car!
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2501040380074450
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] What every electric vehicle should have.

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I’m surprised the focus on EVs isn’t more on plug in hybrids.  A plug in hybrid 
would offer some short amount of electric power then switch over to hybrid 
after. For many people using it commute it would use mostly electric, but it 
offers to convenience of a “regular” car. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 14, 2023, at 9:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> The Nissan Leaf is a very simple, practical car. Just like any other car
> except you get about 80 miles on a charge and then have to plug it in. I am
> looking at Mercedes EVS for 2016 or 2017. They remind me of my GLK 250.
> Slightly smaller, but a quite practical SUV. With my solar Giorgio panels
> and home hook up, this is a no-brainer. Once I have an EV it won't be
> reliant on coal to run.
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 10:25 PM Craig via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The sticker on the right side of the trunk lid, that is.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> P.S. When I saw this ahead of me as I was driving home from church
>> on Sunday, I rushed to get my cell phone out and powered up
>> so I could take the picture. I was just able to take this
>> picture as the traffic lights ahead turned green and the
>> Leaf left me in the dust.
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Re: [MBZ] Nice Wagon

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Dang! Right after I say black is a dealbreaker.  That looks really nice! Good 
looking wagon! So, there’s no giant ticking time bomb on these? Like a $5000 
transmission or a $4000 evap or something else? 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 14, 2023, at 3:21 PM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
> 
> Not a bad price, either:
> 
> 
> [00w0w_3bM96B5lkHv_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
> 2008 mercedes benz e350 for sale by owner - Sarasota, FL - 
> craigslist
> sarasota.craigslist.org
> 
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] 4 Door Coupe?

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A guy I know had one of those. It was his first Mercedes. He bought it with 75K 
on it and drove it to 150K and traded it in on something else. He loved it and 
had zero problems. I was amazed. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 14, 2023, at 1:02 PM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> [01717_dTz4X0Tb3yk_0CI0jC_600x450.jpg]
> 2008 mercedes benz cls550 for sale by owner - Naples, FL - 
> craigslist
> fortmyers.craigslist.org
> 
> -D

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[MBZ] Real world MPG and shifter question

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I checked my mileage on the new to me 124 300E and I was a little disappointed. 
 It was 16 and that included travel on the highway.  My commute to work is only 
8 miles, but about 5 of that is on the highway.   My big Ford F150 4x4 Crew Cab 
got 17.5 in mixed driving.  Shouldn’t I be getting 18-19 mixed?  20 plus for 
all highway? 

The shifter knob/handle whatever you call it is the only thing that doesn’t 
look new and perfect. The black rubber is a little dry and looks old.  Do those 
just screw in?  I have seen wood replacements and it looks like they are 
threaded at the end.  Is that right? 

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] Dealer Serviced, No Disappointments

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Black is my dealbreaker now (probably).  I used to love black cars.  But, I 
don’t have the time to take care of black anymore.  They look fantastic for 10 
minutes and then they are dirty.  

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 14, 2023, at 11:01 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> I agree. Color by itself is not a dealbreaker, but some colors are 
> definitely boring/common, silver and white being near the top of that list.
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, at 10:54, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Not a dealbreaker on the right car, but not one of my favorites.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>>> On Sep 14, 2023, at 11:30 AM, Donald Snook  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I thought you hated Silver.  It’s a little boring, but this one looks clean 
>>> and Silver is a lot easier to keep clean than some others. 
>>> 
>>> Donald H. Snook
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 14, 2023, at 7:53 AM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Until the balance shafts let go. No, really, with 184k on the clock, it’s 
>>>> assumed they’re not an issue or have been addressed:
>>>> 
>>>> <https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col/ctd/d/naples-absolutely-beautiful-mercedes/7665812315.html>
>>>> [00404_iTtwA0w5Nsx_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
>>>> 2007 mercedes benz e350 for sale - Naples, FL - 
>>>> craigslist<https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col/ctd/d/naples-absolutely-beautiful-mercedes/7665812315.html>
>>>> fortmyers.craigslist.org<https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col/ctd/d/naples-absolutely-beautiful-mercedes/7665812315.html>
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT bummer. I need it

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I have been there and to Birmingham 4 times in the last 6-9 months for work.  
It was fine. Pretty much just as hot and humid as Memphis. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 14, 2023, at 8:47 AM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
> 
> Some good friends recently relocated to Huntsville as their daughter and son 
> in law moved there for his retirement from the Army. They say it’s a nice 
> place.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://whnt.com/news/athens/alabama-we-have-a-problem-saturn-1b-rocket-on-i-65-officially-coming-down/amp/
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
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Re: [MBZ] Dealer Serviced, No Disappointments

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I thought you hated Silver.  It’s a little boring, but this one looks clean and 
Silver is a lot easier to keep clean than some others. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 14, 2023, at 7:53 AM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
> 
> Until the balance shafts let go. No, really, with 184k on the clock, it’s 
> assumed they’re not an issue or have been addressed:
> 
> 
> [00404_iTtwA0w5Nsx_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
> 2007 mercedes benz e350 for sale - Naples, FL - 
> craigslist
> fortmyers.craigslist.org
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] OT whole house generator

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

As Craig and Allan and others have said, if she is happy, then that’s enough.  
The reality is probably slightly darker. If she is unhappy, then I’m going to 
know about it. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 14, 2023, at 6:10 AM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
> 
> Pretty much my situation as well. Mrs. Dan wanted a whole-house standby 
> system, so I got one.
> 
> -D
> 
>>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 9:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023, at 16:32, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> She’s happy, then I’m happy.
>> 
>> That tends to be all that really matters.
>> 
>> If she ISN'T happy, you can bet YOU won't be either.
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Re: [MBZ] And Now An Okie SLK

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

That should sell for an Okie Acres price with that body damage. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 13, 2023, at 6:31 PM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
> 
> 
> [00R0R_lQXbTNCh9Q_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
> 1999 Mercedes, CLK 320 for sale by owner - Kissimmee, FL - 
> craigslist
> orlando.craigslist.org
> 
> 
> A little Bondo and some new hydraulics from Klaus and Robert is your elder 
> relative.
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] OT whole house generator

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All of these emails about ways I could have saved by rigging up a different 
generator and potentially electrocuting myself and having an electrical box 
that may or not be code has convinced me I absolutely did the right thing. 

The last time the power went out the house behind me lit up in 20 seconds.  He 
has a generac. Every time his came on and I’m dragging extension cords around 
and figuring out which things need to be on first and which ones can wait and 
will it get too hot or too cold and did I remember to fill up my 5 gallon gas 
can, etc I realized he didn’t even give it another thought.  

Most importantly — my wife said she would rather have the generator than 
putting in wood floors.  She’s happy, then I’m happy.  Except when it comes to 
cars, then the rule is as long as I don’t mess with hers, she doesn’t care. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 13, 2023, at 3:47 PM, mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote:
> 
> On 2023-09-13 16:29, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> I suppose the problem with manually reverse-feeding your whole house with a 
>> suicide cord off the generator is, how do you know when the utility power is 
>> back on?
> 
> I'm subscribed to text alerts.
> Consumers Energy will send me a power restoration text about 5-15 minutes 
> after it comes back on.
> 
> Alternately, I have a smart meter.
> I can periodically check to see if the meter's display is still blank.
> 
> Before smart meters, I had to go out in the garage, disconnect the generator, 
> flip the main, and see if the lights came on in the garage. Or if I was 
> lucky, a neighbor would call and tell me it's back on.
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] if i was older i wouldn’t even think about selling 2003 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 500 Sedan 4D,$4,300

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I have a question for the seller.  Why did he take pictures with the car wet? 
Is the paint that bad? 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 13, 2023, at 3:33 PM, Floyd Thursby  wrote:
> 
> only 93 has gone in. feel free to ask questions, no low balls.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2202027993334644
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 

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Re: [MBZ] don't ask for a lowest price you will not get a response 2000 Mercedes-Benz cl-class CL 500 Coupe 2D, $1, 200

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Friendly seller, huh? 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 13, 2023, at 1:39 PM, Floyd Thursby  wrote:
> 
> This could be worth it, a line is fairly cheap
> 
> I just busted the hydraulic line driving it yesterday. The car is all the way 
> down on the driver front side, you should tow it home, but if you want to 
> tear it up trying to drive it home that's up to you.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/829418372131076
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Volvo SW to the moon and (nearly) back

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At first I thought if I was the owner I would have wanted to get it to 500,000 
just because it us such a milestone.  But, then I read the following “The 
seller reports piston slap when the engine is cold, and the exhaust system does 
not have a catalytic converter.” 

Now I really don’t understand the bidding. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 13, 2023, at 11:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> More miles does not necessarily enhance value.
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1992-volvo-740-turbo-7/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT whole house generator

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Randy wrote: 

> The problem with the small portable generator, is that it may not work when 
> you need it. You need to start and run it often to ensure it works and most 
> folks will tire of that soon after they get it. I have a portable in the 
> shed. I would fire it up spring and fall and let it run a bit. The last time 
> I tried, it would not start. Old gas? Likely needs the carb cleaned.

My problem with the little portable was that I could run the refrigerator, a 
freezer, a few lights, maybe the TV and not much else. And that required 
running extension cords all over the house AND running home from work and 
filling it up with gas.  

Plus (and this happened after I decided to get a whole house generator) a small 
but efficient group of thieves hit my neighborhood a few weeks ago and stole my 
generator and my weedeater.  It was my mistake for leaving it in the carport.  
Apparently a BUNCH of people had stuff stolen.   

Next years home improvement project will be converting the carport into a 
garage. It’s plenty long (my 81 Cadillac fits in easily) and it’s plenty wide, 
but it needs a garage door.  Have to save up for it. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:25 AM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
> 
> Diesels are routinely used in installations above 80kW-100kW and can be 
> located in outdoor enclosures.
> 
> Block heaters are a requirement and will keep the water jacket at or near 
> around 90F-100F for ease of starting.
> 
> Block heaters are standard on industrial units regardless of location.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2023, at 9:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The problem with the small portable generator, is that it may not work when 
>> you need it. You need to start and run it often to ensure it works and most 
>> folks will tire of that soon after they get it. I have a portable in the 
>> shed. I would fire it up spring and fall and let it run a bit. The last time 
>> I tried, it would not start. Old gas? Likely needs the carb cleaned.
>> 
>> Can likely buy one that will run on propane which should avoid the awful 
>> gasoline we get now but one would need to have a supply of propane on hand. 
>> 20# might not last all that long.
>> 
>> Or, you folks down south can likely rely on a diesel generator. That might 
>> be a problem for me here in the cold winter. I would have trouble starting 
>> it.
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
 On 9/12/2023 5:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> That seems like a lot of money for the convenience.
>>> 
>>> I can pay for replacing spoiled food in my freezer a lot of times with 
>>> $30,000.
>>> 
>>> If you're preparing for a possible extended outage as you might have in 
>>> hurricane areas, maybe. To me it doesn't make sense. Knock on wood, I've 
>>> never been without power for more than about 12 hours. I might think about 
>>> a portable generator that could keep my fridge running and maybe handle a 
>>> window AC unit.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT whole house generator

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Mine didn’t cost $30K. And last winter was rough because we were a week without 
power.  The times it has gone out this summer were inconvenient, but not 
deadly.  My problem is all the HUGE old trees in my neighborhood means this is 
likely going to continue. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 12, 2023, at 5:13 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> That seems like a lot of money for the convenience.
> 
> I can pay for replacing spoiled food in my freezer a lot of times with 
> $30,000.
> 
> If you're preparing for a possible extended outage as you might have in 
> hurricane areas, maybe. To me it doesn't make sense. Knock on wood, I've 
> never been without power for more than about 12 hours. I might think about a 
> portable generator that could keep my fridge running and maybe handle a 
> window AC unit.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023, at 15:57, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Generac is the top consumer-grade standby generator. The industrial 
>> business considers them the “KMart” of the industry, a label they 
>> earned in that market in my opinion. However, they have done very, very 
>> well in the consumer market, and while their products are still 
>> somewhat over-engineered at times, they do a good job of balancing 
>> quality and value. They brand label for just about anyone who wants to 
>> market their own home standby generator, so it’s not unusual to see 
>> them branded under other names, like Honeywell or Dayton, for example.
>> 
>> Nearly everything they make below 20kW is 3600 RPM or slightly lower if 
>> it’s gear-driven, although I don’t think they make any gear-driven 
>> consumer sets. The alternative is 1800 RPM sets, which are not 
>> typically offered below 20kW. What does that mean?
>> 
>> 3600 RPM Pros:
>> 
>> Smaller engine running at a high speed, up on the torque/HP curve, 
>> cheaper than larger engines to produce the same power @1800 RPM
>> Two pole alternator, less mass, less copper, cheaper to produce
>> Running faster and higher on the power curve makes it more responsive 
>> to small changes under load
>> 
>> 3600 RPM Cons:
>> 
>> Engine running at higher speed consumes a lot of fuel
>> Engine running at higher speed needs a lot of air for cooling, lots of 
>> noise associated with the cooling system and alternator fan
>> Engine running at higher speeds wears faster, requires more 
>> service/maintenance
>> Lack of mass (2 pole vs. 4 pole rotor, lighter engine) makes recovery 
>> from heavy loads slower
>> 
>> This makes a 3600 RPM set sound like it’s going to be a piece of junk 
>> in short order if it doesn’t fling itself apart. Not so. Think of it as 
>> a 2500-hour product (a swag, I don’t know what the projected life is on 
>> these.) Even if you run 100 hours a year between exercising and 
>> outages, you’re looking at a 25 year product. That is a heck of a deal 
>> for most consumers.
>> 
>> To give one an idea of costs, my equipment and installation, including 
>> the initial tank fill, was in the $30k range. That was tank 
>> installation, boring a line under my driveway and to the back of my 
>> house, a poured slab with stub ups, all conduit, wiring, transfer 
>> switch, permitting, etc., etc., etc. The generator and transfer switch 
>> were about 2/3 of that cost. The typical installation is usually equal 
>> to or more than the cost of the generator itself. That’s what trips a 
>> lot of people up when they look at these in Home Depot or Lowe’s after 
>> the latest storm. “Oh, $7k for a home standby generator! Let’s do it!”
>> 
>> Then they get the cost of the installation and it’s another $7k. Ouch!
>> 
>> My Kohler is a 24kW 1800 RPM unit. Other than the housing and controls, 
>> it’s pretty much identical to its industrial counterpart, which is why 
>> it was a greater part of the total cost.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Sep 12, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Donald Snook  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Generac — sort of. We bought it from Generac. It is warranted by Generac. 
>>> The paperwork all
>>> Says Generac.  The housing says “Honeywell”. Apparently, Generac builds 
>>> them and brands them Honeywell but if you life the cover everything inside 
>>> says Generac.  It’s a 24 KW like yours.  And yes, now that we have the 
>>> generator, it will probably be the calmest fall, winter, and summer in 100 
>>> years. 
>>> 
>>> Donald H. Snook
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 12, 2023, at 3:26 PM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Kohler or Generac

Re: [MBZ] OT whole house generator

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Generac — sort of. We bought it from Generac. It is warranted by Generac. The 
paperwork all
Says Generac.  The housing says “Honeywell”. Apparently, Generac builds them 
and brands them Honeywell but if you life the cover everything inside says 
Generac.  It’s a 24 KW like yours.  And yes, now that we have the generator, it 
will probably be the calmest fall, winter, and summer in 100 years. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 12, 2023, at 3:26 PM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
> 
> Kohler or Generac?
> 
> I was in the “business” for 25 years, Donald, working for Kohler on the 
> industrial side of the standby generator business. I have a Kohler 24kW 
> propane-fueled set in my backyard. With the 1,000-gallon LP tank buried in my 
> front yard, I have about 15-20 days of whole-house operation before needing 
> to refuel. If things really tank we would probably bug out well before that.
> 
> Not one single outage since it was installed 3 years ago.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2023, at 4:19 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My neighborhood has a LOT of very large and old trees.  Just this year the 
>> power has gone out 5 times.  We got pretty frustrated and decided to pull 
>> the trigger on a whole generator that runs off natural gas that is coming 
>> into the house anyway. It has an automatic switch and does everything on its 
>> own.  Pretty amazing technology. 
>> 
>> They just finished installing and testing it today.  Interestingly, there is 
>> no maintenance for the first two years. The first thing is an oil change in 
>> two years which is included in the “free” maintenance for 5 years.   I 
>> wasn’t there today when they finished installation. It would have been 
>> interesting to watch.  
>> 
>> Donald H. Snook
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT whole house generator

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Mine is a Generac. They said two years for the first oil change unless we run 
it more than 200 hours. So, I guess that means every 200 hours or 2 years 
whichever comes first. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 12, 2023, at 3:21 PM, mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote:
> 
> Generac wants me to change oil in the air-cooled 7k every year if not used 
> or every xx hours if used.
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] OT whole house generator

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It will “exercise” every Thursday.  It’s funny you used that term because that 
is exactly what the installer said. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 12, 2023, at 3:27 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> At work they have backup diesel generators on many of the buildings. They 
> have to "exercise" them every so often (monthly? quarterly?) wondering if 
> your system came with any instructions i.e. "run it up to operating 
> temperature every 30 days" 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023, at 15:19, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>> My neighborhood has a LOT of very large and old trees.  Just this year 
>> the power has gone out 5 times.  We got pretty frustrated and decided 
>> to pull the trigger on a whole generator that runs off natural gas that 
>> is coming into the house anyway. It has an automatic switch and does 
>> everything on its own.  Pretty amazing technology. 
>> 
>> They just finished installing and testing it today.  Interestingly, 
>> there is no maintenance for the first two years. The first thing is an 
>> oil change in two years which is included in the “free” maintenance for 
>> 5 years.   I wasn’t there today when they finished installation. It 
>> would have been interesting to watch.  
>> 
>> Donald H. Snook
>> 
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[MBZ] OT whole house generator

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

My neighborhood has a LOT of very large and old trees.  Just this year the 
power has gone out 5 times.  We got pretty frustrated and decided to pull the 
trigger on a whole generator that runs off natural gas that is coming into the 
house anyway. It has an automatic switch and does everything on its own.  
Pretty amazing technology. 

They just finished installing and testing it today.  Interestingly, there is no 
maintenance for the first two years. The first thing is an oil change in two 
years which is included in the “free” maintenance for 5 years.   I wasn’t there 
today when they finished installation. It would have been interesting to watch. 
 

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Yep, I’ve known a few lawyers that bought a plane thinking it will save them 
money. Most sell the plane within a year.  One guy upgraded all the avionics 
and spent $100,000.  I think he felt lucky a year later for what he paid for it 
(minus hanger fees).  

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 11, 2023, at 12:09 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
> The roughly $1000/hr operating cost and $250,000/year fixed
> costs for such a thing are pretty prohibitive!
> 
> -- Jim
> 

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Re: [MBZ] If OK don does not want it, I might buy it

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Several years ago I flew on a King Air like this one several times from Wichita 
to Liberal, Kansas. Instead of a 4.5 hour drive it was an hour and 15 minute 
flight.  That’s a very nice plane. We had several lawyers with clients who were 
more than willing to pay the cost instead of that much drive time. I could get 
used to it. But, maintenance and hanger fees add up fast AND I’m not a pilot! 

I got to fly on one of the FedEx Corporate jets. It was a Global 6500 
(Bombardier). Flew to Harrison, Arkansas from Memphis. Usually a 4.5 hour drive 
and it took about 39 minutes.  Now, that was a luxury. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 11, 2023, at 11:38 AM, MB list etc  wrote:
> 
> Since it's on fakebook and I can't see what it is, I don't want it. If it's 
> an airplane, I have too many as it is 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Original Message ---
>> On Sunday, September 10th, 2023 at 8:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1959720977695561/?mibextid=6ojiHh
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Re: [MBZ] Has already been converted to steel suspension. 2003 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 500 Sedan 4D, $2, 500

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What do steel suspension mean? They eliminated the air shocks? I was thinking 
that’s a lot of miles, but then remembered this is 20 years old. Seems like a 
lot of things have been rigged up. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 11, 2023, at 9:11 AM, Floyd Thursby  wrote:
> 
> Aside from being molested it looks pretty nice
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/835657908012400
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Detailing

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Ha. Thanks. 

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> On Sep 9, 2023, at 2:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> You have good taste in cars/colors.  I'll leapfrong Kaleb by $1 and offer
> you $502.  I'll even waive the Carfax report.
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 2:55 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ooooh gorgeous!!!
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Sep 9, 2023, at 2:36 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Donald H. Snook
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 9, 2023, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Photo(s) would be nice for those of us who don't recall the look of an
>> '81
>>>> Caddie.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 1:48 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You’re at the Martha level just for doing this, believe me. Great job!
>>>>> 
>>>>> -D/M
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 9, 2023, at 12:40 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m sure I’m not quite to the Martha level. But, this morning I
>> washed,
>>>>> clay barred, compounded (polish), and wax/sealed my 81 Cadillac Coupe
>>>>> DeVille.  I also got a new dual action orbital polisher and tried my
>> hand
>>>>> at it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m going to a car show with it tomorrow.  Next weekend I’ll try the
>>>>> 124.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] OT Detailing

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Thank you! 

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> On Sep 9, 2023, at 1:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail  
> wrote:
> 
> Ooooh gorgeous!!!
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2023, at 2:36 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Donald H. Snook
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Sep 9, 2023, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Photo(s) would be nice for those of us who don't recall the look of an '81
>>> Caddie.
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 1:48 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You’re at the Martha level just for doing this, believe me. Great job!
>>>> 
>>>> -D/M
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 9, 2023, at 12:40 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m sure I’m not quite to the Martha level. But, this morning I washed,
>>>> clay barred, compounded (polish), and wax/sealed my 81 Cadillac Coupe
>>>> DeVille.  I also got a new dual action orbital polisher and tried my hand
>>>> at it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m going to a car show with it tomorrow.  Next weekend I’ll try the
>>>> 124.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Donald H. Snook
>>>>> 
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[MBZ] OT Detailing

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I’m sure I’m not quite to the Martha level. But, this morning I washed, clay 
barred, compounded (polish), and wax/sealed my 81 Cadillac Coupe DeVille.  I 
also got a new dual action orbital polisher and tried my hand at it. 

I’m going to a car show with it tomorrow.  Next weekend I’ll try the 124. 

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Re: [MBZ] What drugs can cause this?

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Meth. Definitely meth. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 9, 2023, at 9:37 AM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1360170061239895/?mibextid=6ojiHh
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] Euro 210 diesel 5 Speed

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This is an oddball. Pretty cool1996 Mercedes-Benz E-Class e290 Elegance 5 speed manual euro spec diesel turboebay.comDonald H. Snook___
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Re: [MBZ] Quite ambitious -- 2005 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 320 4MATIC Wagon 4D, $5, 600

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Any particular areas of concern on these?  I have wanted a wagon for a long time.  But, the 123 Wagons cost a fortune. The 124 diesel wagon is the same. The 300TE Is hard to find. And anything recent scares me because of all the tech and reliability.  So, the 211 Wagons are good? I drove a loaner 2005 E500 a friend had. He had spent several thousand dollars on struts.  I read about some issue with the radiator that blows up and trashes the transmission.  I loved driving it. I’m sure the joy had a lot to do with the V8. Donald H. SnookOn Sep 8, 2023, at 11:01 AM, Floyd Thursby  wrote:
  

  
  
Bascially
  like my wagon and I love it
-_FT

On 9/8/23 11:56 AM, Donald Snook wrote:


  I like it! 

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On Sep 8, 2023, at 9:54 AM, Floyd Thursby  wrote:

but looks nice

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/267183142827937/

-- 
--FT




  

-- 
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Re: [MBZ] W210 Danger Will Robinson?

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Both you and Dan referred to it as the Camry of Mercedes.  I guess I didn’t 
realize that they had a hood reputation.   I’m assuming by “Camry” you both 
mean “reliable and dependable” and a little boring.  That’s what I think of a 
Camry — very hard to beat, but sort of bland in a very no nonsense no drama 
sort of way. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 8, 2023, at 10:24 AM, Rick Knoble  wrote:
> 
> Wonderful cars. The Camry of Mercedes. In the rust belt, they rust. 
> Tennessee, probably not so much. The facelift models (2000-2002, 2003 for 
> wagons) are better cars. The 2001-2002 had increased corrosion protection or 
> something on the spring perches.
> 
> If he doesn't want it, let me know. I'll fly down and drive it home.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: September 8, 2023 9:57 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: dhsn...@gmail.com
> Subject: [MBZ] W210 Danger Will Robinson?
> 
> A friend of mine is considering a W210. His elderly neighbor has it. Spotless 
> but hasn’t been driven much. 10 year old gas in it.  He asked me if it was 
> worth it. The only things I remember is most people like the 124 and they 
> skip right over to the 211.
> 
> The 210 has all the weird rust problems and crazy suspension issues?  Is that 
> right? It’s a gasser 320.
> 
> I have no interest in it. Unless of course it was REALLY cheap and truly 
> spotless and rust free.
> 
> Donald H. Snook
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Quite ambitious -- 2005 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 320 4MATIC Wagon 4D, $5, 600

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I like it! 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 8, 2023, at 9:54 AM, Floyd Thursby  wrote:
> 
> but looks nice
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/267183142827937/
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
> 
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[MBZ] W210 Danger Will Robinson?

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

A friend of mine is considering a W210. His elderly neighbor has it. Spotless 
but hasn’t been driven much. 10 year old gas in it.  He asked me if it was 
worth it. The only things I remember is most people like the 124 and they skip 
right over to the 211.   

The 210 has all the weird rust problems and crazy suspension issues?  Is that 
right? It’s a gasser 320. 

I have no interest in it. Unless of course it was REALLY cheap and truly 
spotless and rust free. 

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] 92 300D 2.5

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You were. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 7, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> I thought I was loballing.
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 4:59 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Crack.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> $7500.
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 4:31 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What is a pristine 92 300D 2.5 with 140,000 miles worth? Stacks of
>> records
>>>> from finicky owner.
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t mean the Kaleb price. I’m talking about real value.
>>>> 
>>>> Donald H. Snook
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 92 300D 2.5

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If you can find pristine well maintained 124 diesels with 140,000 miles for 
3-4K, I will buy every one you can find.  

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> $3-4k
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:31 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What is a pristine 92 300D 2.5 with 140,000 miles worth? Stacks of records 
>> from finicky owner. 
>> 
>> I don’t mean the Kaleb price. I’m talking about real value. 
>> 
>> Donald H. Snook
>> 
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[MBZ] 92 300D 2.5

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What is a pristine 92 300D 2.5 with 140,000 miles worth? Stacks of records from 
finicky owner. 

I don’t mean the Kaleb price. I’m talking about real value. 

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Re: [MBZ] ML63 is ALIIIIIVE!!!!

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I must be getting old. I didn’t understand any of that. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 7, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Buggered Benzmail  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes he could do it if you have a DAS/Xentry system that is up to date and 
> that he could do a remote session into. My system was out of date so I 
> dropped it off to him and he was going to update the computer with new 
> software but it needed a new larger hard drive and more memory. I ordered 
> that stuff but the computer didn’t like the memory (2 types actually) so that 
> didn’t work. So he loaned me one of his XENTRY machines which we used today. 
> I have a good Wi-Fi signal out where it is parked. He accessed it with 
> UltraViewer and basically just controlled it from his desk. Worked great. 
> 
> He has a lot of car images already in his systems but didn’t have this ML63 
> so had to download it. He did extract and copy what was in the car but wanted 
> a clean updated install into the car so it is a 2023 version. 
> 
> It was questionable whether this “new” ISM could be programmed. Apparently 
> some can’t but this one was able to take the new image for the car. Once it 
> was done vehicle started right up and no more faults. 
> 
> So anyway a bit more mechanical work to do to get it driveable but nothing 
> like messing with software and computers. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So how did you go about getting this imagine? Is this something your buddy 
>> can do for some of us list folk?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 7, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did a remote session with my buddy today to get the “new” ISM programmed. 
>>> Took some gyrations, had to pay MB for a software image of the car as he 
>>> didn’t have it for this kind of unique vehicle. $231 so not bad. Got it 
>>> done, looks good, no faults, will get it installed back on the tranny 
>>> tomorrow and everything else put back and go for a drive!  YAY!!!
>>> 
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] ML63 is ALIIIIIVE!!!!

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You have an ML63? Wow! I bet that is fun to drive! 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 7, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail  
> wrote:
> 
> Did a remote session with my buddy today to get the “new” ISM programmed. 
> Took some gyrations, had to pay MB for a software image of the car as he 
> didn’t have it for this kind of unique vehicle. $231 so not bad. Got it done, 
> looks good, no faults, will get it installed back on the tranny tomorrow and 
> everything else put back and go for a drive!  YAY!!!
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
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[MBZ] Leatherique

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My 124 has leather rather than MBTex. I’m a real fan of MBTex because it wears 
like iron. I suppose leather is an upgrade.  The seats are in great shape with 
hardly any creasing and no tears. But, the leather is not soft. It’s almost 
hard. It is very smooth and I don’t want (or need to) change the color.  

I have not ever used Leatherigue.  I don’t need to do the crack filler or 
sanding or the total restoration.  I want to soften and condition the leather.  
I think a few folks on here have used it.  Is the two step package what I want? 
 It’s the Rejuvenator and the cleaner. 

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[MBZ] Is a diesel worth it now?

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Recently diesel was so expensive that I’m sure a lot of folks were wondering if 
it makes sense to drive a diesel.  For purposes of this I’m setting aside the 
reliability/durability argument.  I realize that is the factor that is most 
important to many. 

If just the issue of efficiency and cost is considering, it looks like diesel 
would make sense again. 

I just filled up at Costco with 93 for $3.55. The station across the street has 
diesel for $3.87.  I compared the cost of my 124 gas versus a 1990 300D 2.5.  
Using the EPA mileage estimates and their formula of 45 % highway and 55% city 
at the above prices per gallon. 

The gasser 124 costs $2950 annually.  The 300D is $2250.  Maybe this ONE reason 
the 124 Diesel is still selling at a premium. 

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[MBZ] Replacement Key cost

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I called my local dealer to see if a new key can still be ordered.  They can, 
but they are $50! I haven’t ordered one in years, but they have definitely gone 
up.  I don’t need a key except as a spare. 

I know the new fancy keys are a lot more $. But, it’s is just a steel key. 
Isn’t a dealer the only option?  Because you have to provide registration to 
order it. 

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[MBZ] Early review of BAT Sale

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As I mentioned earlier, the BAT transaction was going very smoothly.  The car 
has arrived, I have looked it over and I’ve driven it.  I can say definitely 
that I am very happy with everything.  The seller communicated well, the 
description was honest, any issues (radio) were disclosed and he included extra 
parts he had not mentioned in the listing. 

I used BAT shipping.  I figured it was better than trying to get quotes from a 
ton of companies I knew nothing about.  When I had a question, BAT answered it 
immediately.  The car arrived within 1 week of the end of the sale.   This was 
my first purchase through BAT and I was very pleased. 

Don Snook
1990 Mercedes 300E 
1981 Cadillac Coupe DeVille 
2022 Ford F-150 Lariat 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 214, Issue 43

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Seems like that could be a decent deal ONLY if the buyer has some skills. A/C 
and convertible top could be big money.  Aren’t these wheels worth a lot? It 
would be a shame to part it out, but there’s definitely more than $4500 in 
value. 

Donald H. Snook


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[MBZ] Unclog Washer

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Is there a specific method for unclogging the windshield washer?  Mine just 
sort of leaked out on one side and the other was a super thin spray on the 
other. 

I have gotten spoiled by modern cars.  I need a cup holder.  I have seen a few 
on eBay that are plastic that fit in the center console. Anybody used one of 
those? 

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[MBZ] Obligatory oil question

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I found out the seller of my new 124 has been using Liqui Moly 15-40 for oil. 
He has only had it since 2021 and drove it less than 5000 miles.  

Is there any reason to keep using it?  I remember lots of discussion from Dr 
Booth about synthetic oil. And many other differing opinions.  I don’t mind 
using full synthetic. Mobil 1 isn’t horrible especially when it’s on sale.  
But, I don’t remember the conventional wisdom on the best oil for the M103. 

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Re: [MBZ] It arrived!

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I’m looking forward to some detailing! The seller was telling me about some wax 
he really liked from Auto Geek.  I ordered some. It’s is part of the Wolfgang 
Concourse series.  I’ve never heard of it, but worth a shot.  The car doesn’t 
need much, but it’s dirty from the shipping.  

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 5, 2023, at 11:33 AM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
> 
> Let the Martha’ing begin!
> 
> Congrats!
> 
> -D
> 
> On Sep 5, 2023, at 6:11 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My new (to me) 124 arrived!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] No key no title clean all around car. 1994 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 420 Sedan 4D, $2, 500

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What is a set of those wheels going for? 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 5, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Floyd Thursby  wrote:
> 
> Got it on a trade just don’t wanna deal with it. Will part out.let me know 
> wat u need…
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/306824405261557
> 
> -- 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] The 124 is on its way!

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I would like to say I’ll keep it for years. I would say the over/under is 1 
year. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 3, 2023, at 9:06 PM, Rick Knoble  wrote:
> 
> Shall we start a pool to bet on how long you will keep it? :)
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: September 3, 2023 2:18 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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> Subject: [MBZ] The 124 is on its way!
> 
> I doubt every sale goes as well as this one (knock on wood), but this has 
> been very smooth.  I think it has a lot to do with a great seller.
> 
> Anyway, it’s on the way!
> 
> [cid:126022a3-adfc-45c9-8266-a12dfb12ac59@namprd11.prod.outlook.com]
> 
> 
> [cid:a7b2a044-826b-4275-acb1-b44d7a832093@namprd11.prod.outlook.com]
> 
> 
> They said it will arrive tomorrow!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Run and drive exelent 2006 Mercedes-Benz slk-class SLK 350 Roadster 2D, $8, 500

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I wonder if that is a wrap rather than painted?  That color is awful 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 3, 2023, at 10:53 AM, Floyd Thursby  wrote:
> 
> Visual assault but it could grow on me.  Manny tranny?  If the engine is 
> still good this thing could be a lot of fun if you could fit in it
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/267879402728307
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
> 
> 

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[MBZ] Nice 126 300SD pretty low miles

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If the mileage could be proven and it is not eaten up from being in Chicago, should be great! 1983 mercedes benz 300sd diesel for sale by owner - Mount Prospect, IL - craigslistchicago.craigslist.orgDonald H. Snook___
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Re: [MBZ] Becker

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It looks like they are pretty much plug and play.  

Max - is that right? Any cutting or splicing? 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 2, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Floyd Thursby  wrote:
> 
> Yeah those are nice units.  Max put one in his 124 and really likes it
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 9/2/23 10:48 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Look at a Continental. They look period correct (more so in the older 
>> models) and have all the modern amenities, like Bluetooth. Plug and play, 
>> too. I can find some links if you like, there are a number of good sellers 
>> on eBay. Note that there are a lot of variants, too, that offer things like 
>> a CD player.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>>> On Sep 2, 2023, at 7:41 AM, Donald Snook via 
>>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anybody ever tried one of the Becker look-a-like stereos from Crutchfield?
>>> 
>>> I have heard good stuff about the company, but no experience with the MB 
>>> replacements that are supposed to look like the Beckers.
>>> 
>>> Or anyone have a working Becker that fits the 124?
>>> 
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[MBZ] Becker

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Anybody ever tried one of the Becker look-a-like stereos from Crutchfield?  

I have heard good stuff about the company, but no experience with the MB 
replacements that are supposed to look like the Beckers. 

Or anyone have a working Becker that fits the 124? 

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] OT Fedex rant, again, UPS praise

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You should call the customer service number and complain and ask them to 
deliver it properly. 

By the way, UPS isn’t big enough to buy FedEx and I’m sorry to hear you have 
had several bad experiences.  Send me the tracking number and I’ll talk with 
the service center manager about them doing it right. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 1, 2023, at 4:51 PM, Floyd Thursby  wrote:
> 
> Ordered dog food from Chewy.  They use Fedex for delivery.  They were 
> leaving the boxes up the road back at the end of a gravel driveway that goes 
> to a little bridge residents use to get to their houses on a little island 
> out in the marsh.  I retrieved one a few months ago over there and i think 
> one before that. Others have just disappeared, some actually make it here.  
> My daughter ordered some dog meds from them a coupla weeks ago to be 
> delivered to me and it was shown as delivered with a picture of the box 
> sitting over there so I went and got it. Yesterday and today I get text msgs 
> saying they are unable to deliver the latest food package.  Idiots.
> 
> UPS delivered my FCPEuro order today no problemo so I can do some Benzing 
> over the long weekend.  Yay them.
> 
> UPS should buy Fedex and put an end to their miserable service.
> 
> -- 
> --FT
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[MBZ] 124 Tires

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I watched a couple of Motorweek Retro Reviews (which I really like) and the 
were reviewing the 124. The videos I watched were from 86, 90 and 92. In them, 
Motorweek loved the 124, but was critical of the tires saying they were too 
narrow and too soft.  

I’m wondering if I could upsize the tires on my 90 300E without changing the 
wheels.  I don’t need or want to put stupid-big wheels or tires on it. But, 
maybe just a slight increase. The current size is 195/65/15.  I tried a few 
online calculators and I think the 6.5J wheel will allow a tire up to 215. 

I found some 205/65/15 that would likely work. According to the calculators, 
it’s a pretty small difference. 

Am I wasting my time? Is that small of an increase going to make any 
difference?   I don’t drive aggressively.  My one issue with the current tires 
is they are Michelin Premiere a/s which are good tires but they tend to wear 
quickly.  I have had them on other vehicles and they were comfortable and 
quiet, but the lifetime is about half of many other Michelin. 

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] Here’s a commuter car!

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Is there a listing? I have always thought buying a 123 with super high miles (700, 800, 900K miles) would be cool just to get it to 1 Million. Donald H. SnookOn Aug 31, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail  wrote:He should buy that million mile 124 300D near Nashville --FTSent from iFōnOn Aug 31, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes  wrote:My brother moved 45 miles away from his office when everyone was working from home.  Now, he has to drive in 3 days a week.  I told him he needs this. <190d-179.png>One-Owner 1985 Mercedes-Benz 190D Euro 5-Speed w/55k Miles For Salethembmarket.comThe EPA estimates show 35 mpg, but that is for the 2.2. I’m guessing this Euro 2.0 5 Speed would be closer to 38 or even 40. Donald H. Snook___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 320 CDI Sedan 4D,$3,250

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What’s the story with these? There’s something about these that is a big 
repair? Isn’t it worse if it is used for shorter trips? 

Donald H. Snook


> On Aug 31, 2023, at 3:49 PM, Floyd Thursby  wrote:
> 
> Looks decent, might be a good deal.  This is a million mile diesel!
> 
> Driven 270,000 miles
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/140163829156564
> 
> -- 
> --FT
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[MBZ] Got the Shipping Update from BAT

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My new to me 1990 MB 300E will be picked up this weekend and will arrive in the 
land of BBQ and Elvis early next week. 

I’m keeping my fingers crossed that everything will continue to run just as 
smoothly as it has so far. 

The seller is a great guy.  He has a 92 300D 2.5 that he uses as a daily driver 
and has a 560SL, 560SEC, and a 560SEL.  He did everything this car needed (and 
much more).  He even bought a muffler because they were getting hard to find 
and a new power antenna because the rubber trim piece was wobbly.  He is 
including these parts and others (window switches and others) for me even 
though they were never mentioned in the auction. 

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] Here’s a commuter car!

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That is funny. I’m assuming this would be SLOW (although not as bad the old 240).  I suppose the one to get is the 190D 2.5. It would almost be fast considering it was relatively potent in the 124. Donald H. SnookOn Aug 31, 2023, at 11:20 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:The rear spoiler is amusing.On Thu, Aug 31, 2023, at 11:16, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:My brother moved 45 miles away from his office when everyone was working from home.  Now, he has to drive in 3 days a week.  I told him he needs this. <190d-179.png>One-Owner 1985 Mercedes-Benz 190D Euro 5-Speed w/55k Miles For Salethembmarket.comThe EPA estimates show 35 mpg, but that is for the 2.2. I’m guessing this Euro 2.0 5 Speed would be closer to 38 or even 40. Donald H. Snook___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com___
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Re: [MBZ] 1977 Mercedes 450 SEL 6.9 Sedan Giving the car away at $4, 500 OBO

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A 450SEL 6.9 (not this one) is a dream car for me. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Aug 31, 2023, at 7:52 AM, Buggered Benzmail  
> wrote:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/mbfanaticsfsft/permalink/6466631233390281/?sale_post_id=6466631233390281
> 
> 1977 Mercedes 450 SEL 6.9 Sedan
> 1 of 462 produced for the US market in 1977
> 6.834 CC V8 with 3 speed automatic transmission
> Has 72799 original miles
> Car was being prepared to be painted
> Car is very complete
> Car has no keys and is being sold with California lien sale papers
> Lien sale papers can be used in all states for title and registration
> Car had been in storage for more than 10 years 
> This was the flagship for Mercedes Benz in the 1970s and early 80s
> The 6.9 was the largest V8 engine produced by Mercedes
> This was one of the most powerful sedans ever built
> Total world wide production from 1975 to 1981 was 7380 and only 1816 where 
> sold in the USA
> This is becoming a very rare car
> Giving the car away at $4,500 OBO
> 
> Sent from my iPad

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Re: [MBZ] 1960 (?) 300SL - been in shed for 30 years - $26,500

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And the listing has been deleted now. I’m guessing it sold. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Aug 28, 2023, at 6:26 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> Rough but looks pretty much complete.
> 
> https://richmondin.craigslist.org/cto/d/richmond-mercedes/7659962784.html
> 

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Re: [MBZ] 1960 (?) 300SL - been in shed for 30 years - $26,500

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That will probably sell for close to that. If somebody had $50k to put into it, 
they could double their money. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Aug 28, 2023, at 6:26 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> Rough but looks pretty much complete.
> 
> https://richmondin.craigslist.org/cto/d/richmond-mercedes/7659962784.html
> 

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Re: [MBZ] A-Class

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I’m not saying Nissans are bad. I like the Maxima.  And I have a friend with 
over 300K on his Altima.  But, a Nissan shouldn’t be the comparator for a 
Mercedes. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Aug 28, 2023, at 3:36 PM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
> 
> I talked a co-worker into buying an Altima a few years ago and he’s now on 
> #2, which he bought brand new a few months ago (first one was a used 2012) 
> and he loves it. Pretty bulletproof, especially since they sorted out the 
> lousy CVT the earlier models have. It’s a really nice car.
> 
> I would own one.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 1:27 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I was driving back from an appointment and drove past the local MB 
>> Dealership.  An A220 pulled out in front of me.  I don’t remember seeing 
>> many of those on the road. What an ugly little pretender.  It looked like it 
>> could have been a Nissan.  (There’s nothing wrong with a Nissan, but by 
>> comparison to some other really cars it is sad). Even a Camry is better 
>> looking.  It is sad that it is driving around with a three pointed star on 
>> it. 
>> 
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[MBZ] A-Class

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I was driving back from an appointment and drove past the local MB Dealership.  
An A220 pulled out in front of me.  I don’t remember seeing many of those on 
the road. What an ugly little pretender.  It looked like it could have been a 
Nissan.  (There’s nothing wrong with a Nissan, but by comparison to some other 
really cars it is sad). Even a Camry is better looking.  It is sad that it is 
driving around with a three pointed star on it. 

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] Severe brain trauma combined with a hard night of hookers and blow

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At least she will do trades if it’s “coo” 

Donald H. Snook


> On Aug 27, 2023, at 10:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/317527230656934/?mibextid=6ojiHh
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] SL600

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The scariest part is “fuel injection system replaced.”

Donald H. Snook


> On Aug 26, 2023, at 4:38 PM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
> 
> Not bad for condition from the looks of things, but I’m not sure I would 
> want an M120 and a pre-facelift R129 unless I was into some serious 
> self-abuse.
> 
> 
> [00404_2hdVB5vR2Tm_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
> 1994 mercedes benz sl600 for sale by owner - Saint Petersburg, FL - 
> craigslist
> tampa.craigslist.org
> 
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] Back in the fold

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I did sell you that you that one! And it was a great vehicle. Hasn’t it been 
around to several others now? You and Craig and maybe others? It probably has 
400K on it now. 

And yes, I thought it was too small then.  Of course, I’m smaller than I was 
then too (about 40 pounds) and since then I have had 29 cars. Some larger and 
some smaller.  

I realized something recently again that I had forgotten earlier. I like cars 
too much to have only one and I dislike car payments even more. So, I plan to 
sell my new truck 2022 F150 Lariat and save a lot of money on payments.  

I have been looking for a 124 and was focused mostly on diesels. 
And if I could have found another 300D 2.5 for sale that was as nice as this 
one I would have gotten it.  But, this one has had everything fixed. I’m sure I 
could have found a cheaper version but then I would have had to do all this 
work. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Aug 25, 2023, at 5:59 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> 
> Amazing! You sold a Smoke Silver one to me because it was "too small" ---
> I really hate that green color, but I bet it's nice car anyway. The W124 is
> my favorite driving MB right after the C107.
> Welcome back to the group!
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 4:22 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Vey nice, Donald, and it’s GREEN!!
>> 
>> Can’t you just put it on a pallet and have your employer bring it back
>> when someone deadheads to Memphis?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Aug 25, 2023, at 4:07 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, it’s been a long time since I have posted here.  I found a really
>> amazing GREEN 90 124 on bring a trailer and the seller spent a fortune
>> making it perfect.  It was listed on cars and bids and didn’t meet
>> reserve.  The seller relisted it and I thought the reserve would be over
>> $12,000.  The seller spent almost $13,000 fixing it up.  So, I bid my
>> maximum I was willing to bid and to my surprise, I got it!
>> 
>> Here is a link to the auction listing.
>> 
>> <https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-mercedes-benz-300e-29/>
>> <1990_mercedes-benz_300e_20230720_081819-06962.jpg>
>> 1990 Mercedes-Benz 300E<
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-mercedes-benz-300e-29/>
>> bringatrailer.com<
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-mercedes-benz-300e-29/>
>> 
>> So, now I have to figure out if I should ship it or fly to Connecticut and
>> drive it back (1200 miles) to Memphis.  Driving it back would be an
>> adventure. But, I’m not certain I can take that much time.
>> 
>> I’ll keep you updated on it.  Looking it over makes me think that this was
>> one of Dan’s cars. It has definitely had the Martha Treatment.
>> 
>> I’m excited to be back in the MB fold!
>> 
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> are wearing."
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Werner
> Von Braun
> 
> "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
> doing it."
>-- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Son's E320

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Jim - you are a great Dad! 

Also, that was the most exhaustive description of how the trunk lock works! 

Donald H. Snook


> On Aug 25, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Craig  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 13:58:02 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> My intent is to pick him up at the airport using his car, and to pop
>> the trunk from the inside when he walks up. Surprise!
> 
> Indeed! Congratulations on all of the good work.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Back in the fold

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Thanks! And thanks to Randy and Allen.  The only thing it needs is a radio 
repair or replacement. Apparently the Becker just plays static. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Aug 25, 2023, at 3:28 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> Good deal!
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 4:19 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Looks nice.
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 25/08/2023 3:07 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Well, it’s been a long time since I have posted here.  I found a
>>> really amazing GREEN 90 124 on bring a trailer and the seller spent a
>>> fortune making it perfect.  It was listed on cars and bids and didn’t
>>> meet reserve.  The seller relisted it and I thought the reserve would
>>> be over $12,000.  The seller spent almost $13,000 fixing it up.  So, I
>>> bid my maximum I was willing to bid and to my surprise, I got it!
>>> Here is a link to the auction listing.
>>> 1990_mercedes-benz_300e_20230720_081819-06962.jpg
>>> 1990 Mercedes-Benz 300E
>>> <https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-mercedes-benz-300e-29/>
>>> bringatrailer.com
>>> <https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-mercedes-benz-300e-29/>
>>> <https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-mercedes-benz-300e-29/>
>>> So, now I have to figure out if I should ship it or fly to Connecticut
>>> and drive it back (1200 miles) to Memphis.  Driving it back would be
>>> an adventure. But, I’m not certain I can take that much time.
>>> I’ll keep you updated on it.  Looking it over makes me think that this
>>> was one of Dan’s cars. It has definitely had the Martha Treatment.
>>> I’m excited to be back in the MB fold!
>>> Donald H. Snook
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[MBZ] Anybody near Jefferson, GA?

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I found an 84 300SD with only 69K miles. Supposed to be in perfect like new 
shape. Pictures do look like it.  Anybody near Jefferson, GA and want to take a 
look at it? Like a PPI? 

Donald H. Snook


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[MBZ] 78 240D on eBay

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I’ve never seen a luggage rack on a 240! 

Seller says 400K miles and has trouble going over 60 mph. Salina isn’t far from 
my old stomping grounds. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1978-Mercedes-Benz-Other-/265754670959?mkcid=16=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286=711-127632-2357-0

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Re: [MBZ] OT Extended Warranty success story

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When I worked at a large Oldsmobile and Honda dealer (97-2001),  the order of 
the departments  in terms of revenue/profit was 

1. Service Department 
2. Used cars 
3. F
4. New cars
5. Body shop 


Donald H. Snook


> On Jun 16, 2022, at 3:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> Warranties are a 3rd party product that the dealer sells. It’s a huge profit 
> center for them. There are basically 2 sides of a dealership. The fixed ops 
> side which is parts and service, and the variable ops side which is sales. In 
> a car deal, it is a 3 legged stool basically the dealer makes money on. First 
> is the gross on the car. Next is what they will make on your trade. And 
> finally is F This is when you are in the box after negotiating the price 
> and they sign the paperwork. This is really just another sales session where 
> they sell you aftermarket’s and warranties. This is also where they make most 
> of their money if they are not making all that much on the front end. Also, 
> they make money on the financing. Let’s say they hang your paper at a local 
> credit union, bank, or even a national lender. That lender comes back at 3% 
> on the deal and they allow a 2 point markup. Dealer can then sell it to you 
> at anywhere from 3-5%. So if dealers signs you at 5% they are making 2 on 
> your loan. Also depending on the situation if you are a prime customer 
> different lenders may also pay the dealer a fixed amount to send them the 
> deal which the F manager typically pockets. If you are subprime, the dealer 
> might actually have to pay the lender a fee to get the deal bought. That’s 
> why you might see cars listed for x amount but when somebody with low credit 
> wants to buy it, not only are they going to pay a higher interest rate they 
> also raise the price of the car in order to cover the fee. 
> 
> In other words, there is a lot involved in a car dealership and a lot of 
> crooked stuff happens. Even if the dealer is not crooked, they are making 
> money every step of the way. 
> 
> In normal time, a dealer would gross maybe $1500 on a used car. On new 
> sometimes they didn’t make anything except the hold back, which is a fixed 
> among the OEM pays the dealer per car sold. Sometimes they might make $400. 
> Now days the average gross is $5-6k in the front end, not including the back 
> end gross which could be another $2k or more. Some of these stores are doing 
> over a million a month in gross, not even counting fixed ops. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2022, at 1:53 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I imagine most people on here wouldn’t buy an extended warranty. And I have 
>> never bought one before.  But, back in September I decided I needed an SUV.  
>> We went on a family vacation and taking the dog, kids, stuff, etc we didn’t 
>> have much room in my car.  
>> 
>> I bought a 2014 Lexus GX 460. It’s not the biggest SUV, but it is still full 
>> size and three rows.  I bought it with only 39,000 miles from the local BMW 
>> dealer.  They offered to sell me an extended warranty and I immediately said 
>> no.  Then, I wondered what crazy number they were going to quote me.  They 
>> said $2000 for 4 years and 48,000 miles — on top of the miles it already 
>> had.  I started thinking with an 8 year old vehicle things like an 
>> alternator or a starter or power window motors are going to fail.  None of 
>> those are outrageous, but a few repairs here and there and it’s not hard to 
>> get to $2000. This is the zero deductible top of the line coverage. 
>> 
>> I got an oil change last week and they called me and said the timing cover 
>> is leaking oil and said $3000 to fix. BUT,  I had the warranty.  They 
>> covered it. I watched the video on how to do it. ALL the stuff in front has 
>> to come off. It’s a huge job.   
>> 
>> I picked up my car at lunch and it’s all done and it cost me nothing. I only 
>> mention this because it is so rare that a car extended warranty (other than 
>> CPO) actually works out. 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Extended Warranty success story

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Yep. The administrator works for an insurance company. In this case, the BMW 
made money selling it and the Lexus dealer made money getting the work.  I will 
never feel bad for an insurance company.  Some actuary has run the numbers and 
on some they might lose and most others they make some.  

Donald H. Snook


> On Jun 16, 2022, at 2:13 PM, dan penoff.com  wrote:
> 
> Warranties are sold and serviced by third parties, not the dealerships. 
> They’re just one more “add on” that they purchase through a third party.
> 
> The dealer has no exposure. If anything, they profit from the warranty work, 
> as they get paid for doing it.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2022, at 11:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Great story, although I predict that dealer will be out of business by the
>> end of the year.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 2:53 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I imagine most people on here wouldn’t buy an extended warranty. And I
>>> have never bought one before.  But, back in September I decided I needed an
>>> SUV.  We went on a family vacation and taking the dog, kids, stuff, etc we
>>> didn’t have much room in my car.
>>> 
>>> I bought a 2014 Lexus GX 460. It’s not the biggest SUV, but it is still
>>> full size and three rows.  I bought it with only 39,000 miles from the
>>> local BMW dealer.  They offered to sell me an extended warranty and I
>>> immediately said no.  Then, I wondered what crazy number they were going to
>>> quote me.  They said $2000 for 4 years and 48,000 miles — on top of the
>>> miles it already had.  I started thinking with an 8 year old vehicle things
>>> like an alternator or a starter or power window motors are going to fail.
>>> None of those are outrageous, but a few repairs here and there and it’s not
>>> hard to get to $2000. This is the zero deductible top of the line coverage.
>>> 
>>> I got an oil change last week and they called me and said the timing cover
>>> is leaking oil and said $3000 to fix. BUT,  I had the warranty.  They
>>> covered it. I watched the video on how to do it. ALL the stuff in front has
>>> to come off. It’s a huge job.
>>> 
>>> I picked up my car at lunch and it’s all done and it cost me nothing. I
>>> only mention this because it is so rare that a car extended warranty (other
>>> than CPO) actually works out.
>>> 
>>> Donald H. Snook
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Extended Warranty success story

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The Lexus dealer (where I got the work done) or the BMW dealer where I bought 
the warranty? 

 Unlikely for either. They are both the only dealers in the area for their 
respective brands. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Jun 16, 2022, at 1:58 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Great story, although I predict that dealer will be out of business by the 
> end of the year.
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 2:53 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I imagine most people on here wouldn’t buy an extended warranty. And I have 
>> never bought one before.  But, back in September I decided I needed an SUV.  
>> We went on a family vacation and taking the dog, kids, stuff, etc we didn’t 
>> have much room in my car.  
>> 
>> I bought a 2014 Lexus GX 460. It’s not the biggest SUV, but it is still full 
>> size and three rows.  I bought it with only 39,000 miles from the local BMW 
>> dealer.  They offered to sell me an extended warranty and I immediately said 
>> no.  Then, I wondered what crazy number they were going to quote me.  They 
>> said $2000 for 4 years and 48,000 miles — on top of the miles it already 
>> had.  I started thinking with an 8 year old vehicle things like an 
>> alternator or a starter or power window motors are going to fail.  None of 
>> those are outrageous, but a few repairs here and there and it’s not hard to 
>> get to $2000. This is the zero deductible top of the line coverage. 
>> 
>> I got an oil change last week and they called me and said the timing cover 
>> is leaking oil and said $3000 to fix. BUT,  I had the warranty.  They 
>> covered it. I watched the video on how to do it. ALL the stuff in front has 
>> to come off. It’s a huge job.   
>> 
>> I picked up my car at lunch and it’s all done and it cost me nothing. I only 
>> mention this because it is so rare that a car extended warranty (other than 
>> CPO) actually works out. 
>> 
>> Donald H. Snook
>> 
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[MBZ] OT Extended Warranty success story

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I imagine most people on here wouldn’t buy an extended warranty. And I have 
never bought one before.  But, back in September I decided I needed an SUV.  We 
went on a family vacation and taking the dog, kids, stuff, etc we didn’t have 
much room in my car.  

I bought a 2014 Lexus GX 460. It’s not the biggest SUV, but it is still full 
size and three rows.  I bought it with only 39,000 miles from the local BMW 
dealer.  They offered to sell me an extended warranty and I immediately said 
no.  Then, I wondered what crazy number they were going to quote me.  They said 
$2000 for 4 years and 48,000 miles — on top of the miles it already had.  I 
started thinking with an 8 year old vehicle things like an alternator or a 
starter or power window motors are going to fail.  None of those are 
outrageous, but a few repairs here and there and it’s not hard to get to $2000. 
This is the zero deductible top of the line coverage. 

I got an oil change last week and they called me and said the timing cover is 
leaking oil and said $3000 to fix. BUT,  I had the warranty.  They covered it. 
I watched the video on how to do it. ALL the stuff in front has to come off. 
It’s a huge job.   

I picked up my car at lunch and it’s all done and it cost me nothing. I only 
mention this because it is so rare that a car extended warranty (other than 
CPO) actually works out. 

Donald H. Snook


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[MBZ] 85 123 56K miles!

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This looks great! I assume that the price will go up a lot towards the end. 
Only 56K miles. 

https://thembmarket.com/1985-mercedes-benz-300d-turbodiesel#bidsandcomments

Donald H. Snook

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[MBZ] I don’t understand this BAT result

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Obviously this car is exceedingly rare and special for some reason. 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1990-mercedes-benz-190e-2-5-evolution-ii-9/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2022-06-06

I’m guessing if others are out there, they are talking to BAT now about listing 
them. 

Donald H. Snook

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[MBZ] 124 Wagon

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Anything special to look out for 124 gasser wagons that would be different than 
the Sedans? I suppose the SLS and accumulators would be the primary thing? 

On later 124, the other things to check are the wiring harness and the 
evaporator. Right?  I keep finding 124 wagons for sale and they are really 
growing on me.  

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] Need to pay for my wedding - 1979 450SL - 132k miles

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It’s going to be a small wedding if the car doesn’t even start and run. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Jun 3, 2022, at 11:57 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> $10k or best offer
> 
> https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/cincinnati-mercedes-450sl/7491741662.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 Mercedes-Benz E500 Sedan *** Only 75k miles!!! *** - $8, 950 (Clean clean clean!!!)

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Are these the ones that have the radiator problem that costs $3,000 and if it 
fails it can kill the transmission?  I drove one of these as a loaner and loved 
it. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Jun 2, 2022, at 8:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Pay the man.
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 9:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting color combo, looks nice
>> 
>> Unbelievable condition, must see in person to appreciate!!!
>> 
>> 
>> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/palm-coast-2005-mercedes-benz-e500/7491212982.html
>> 
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[MBZ] 123 Wagon

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Pretty cool 123 Diesel Wagon. Has a new (upgraded) injection pump that the 
seller claims raises HP to 200. 

https://thembmarket.com/1982-mercedes-benz-300td

It also has 472K miles! It would be fun to get it to 500,000 (or more). 

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice

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I agree a Hybrid would potentially be a great solution. And I already started 
looking for a Lexus ES Hybrid.  I found one 2-3 months ago that I should have 
bought.  Now, the newer ones are priced as much as they were new. All hybrids 
are probably going to skyrocket. 

Donald H. Snook


> On May 26, 2022, at 11:18 AM, Rick Knoble  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> You might be better off with a gasser though, or (heaven forbid) even an EV 
>> for a commute that short.
> 
> A hybrid would be ideal. Lexus makes a hybrid as does Toyota (Prius). 
> Mercedes has had hybrids for several years also. Perhaps Jaime would know the 
> details of them. Of course the time to prepare for rising fuel prices is 
> BEFORE they go up. I won't discuss the impetus for the rising prices, that's 
> for another list. Rest assured they will continue to rise.
> 
> I suspect most people are not prepared for what's coming.
> 
> 
> Rick

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