If you do a hard cost analysis of purchase cost of the EV auto, then add in
the hard cost of owning a solar power collection system to feed the EV with
energy, then do an actual hard cost per mile used, it raises some real
questions about just how economical the EV actually is to own and support,
> > >
> > > --FT
> > >
> > >> On 5/27/22 12:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> This is my position. I’m more than wiling to “go green” if it makes
> > good financial sense. At present and for the foreseeable future,
In the interest of a reality check on that thought, consider this.
1. Since you would not be able to do a grid tie to the solar panels, you
would not receive any government matching funds for purchase and install of
the solar rack. Your cost for a 10KW solar array would be, approx, $15,000.
Well, that brings back a lot of memories.
Long ago, I started collecting a full set of Morris Minor cars. One of each
model and variant and restored them all to "as new". At the peak of this
OCD exercise I had 36. Sold them as a group and moved on to my next auto
adventure. [not a complicated car,
I cannot confirm or deny that I am the buyer.
What a piece of automotive legend at any price.
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 6:44 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> It wasn’t me.
> Sent from my iPhone
> > On May 23, 2022, at 5:52 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes <
6,000 gallons X $7.10 per gal = $42,600.00 [Does that come with cleaning
the windows and checking the tire pressure, like in the old days when full
service stations pumped your gas for you?]
Green stamps? [save up for that tupperware set for the little lady, you
Just for fun, look up several
Truly a collectors car.
It has all the right pieces, including VIN number.
A garage full of cars like this one defines "Disposable Income". [Not for
the faint of wallet]
On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 5:37 PM mitch--- via Mercedes
When this AGM battery is charged as much as it will take, what does it do
on a load tester?
Based on the fact that it self discharges rather quickly, that indicates it
has a cell or cells that are internally shorted. It "should" show less than
rated capacity hooked to a load test.
Since hooking it
Unfortunate choice of color and paint scheme.
Certainly not inspiring to look at. Sun failed dash paint is another fail
On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 8:16 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
After looking at the pictures, I identified 7 lug nuts that are good
salvage rest of the car is toast.
I'm suggesting 3 other cars were involved, in sequence... 1. Hit from the
rear, 2. Rear impact drove the car into a rear end impact with the car in
front of it, with trajectory into the right
B.O.A.T. Bring Out Another Thousand
or, in the case of a wood boat add 3 zeros to the thousand figure.
It truly is a lovely old classic.
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 12:13 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> Don’t ever go to Lake Tahoe in the summer. Droves of
This sums it up rather nicely.
Reporter: Dr Einstein, what is the difference between genius and ignorance.
Dr. Einstein: "There is no shortage of ignorance."
On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 4:33 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> I have my doubts...
"Ran when parked."
"Air blows cold" [in the winter]
On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 6:32 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
With only a $100 increase in the bid in the past 24 hrs, it doesn't get a
lot of love thus far.
IMHO, it is a car that is at that "All or nothing stage" of
All in, at $1500, plus transport [add another $1 to 2,000 for that] you get
a car that doesn't run and smells strongly
Imagine, just for a moment, the satisfaction an old school drill
sergeant would gather every time he marched a bus load of these individuals
as conscripts into the barber shop for their first GI haircuts... Then
instructed them that there was no safe space for the next term of
I defer to your field experience in dealing with individuals who experience
such internal disorders of thought then act out.
I raise concern because the current human herd seems to have found some
sort of cumulative cognitive dissonance that permeates thought, action, and
core belief, yet gives
Tensioner ran for some time without holding the load on alternator
pulley within alignment spec.. thus damaged alternator bearings, and the
alternator internals are no longer in alignment.
Logical cause and effect.
On Sun, May 8, 2022 at 9:55 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
This incident, and others across the nation, beg the question "What brought
this individual to the mindset to learn how to make molotov cocktails,
actually make them, then travel to a police station and attack it, then
attack the responding officers, with the molotov cocktails.
"Faster than a cop radio"
[Yet another car thief fantasy]
These guys are young. They will be very popular in jail.
On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 1:08 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> I am somewhat impressed with the car’s performance. The two idiots need to
Commercial specification biodiesel is chemically refined vegetable oil made
to a specific DOT specification. The raw material may have been vegetable
oil [new or used] but the final material must meet the DOT specification to
It also must meet DOD specification since the government is a
If as advertised, buy it, haul all the parts home, assemble it properly,
then put a fine Martha on the whole car and BAT flip it, for big bucks.
Euro with manual trans... wagon... It's the holy grail for a BAT flip.
On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 7:57 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
Increase in altitude = decrease in air density
Mother nature always wins in aviation.
Less air density instantly translates to less lift with fewer air molecules
to react against the wing surface, or the propeller blades. Engines produce
less horsepower as density altitude provides less air to
My learned opinion is this vehicle is a total, and based on the year and
value [prior to being "elked"] it would/should have had full coverage
SO $17,000 for the hulk + rebuild cost of another $15 to 25K [likely a
low number] and you have a "new vehicle" with a salvage title
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Slide rule use requires the use of logic and logical thought. That skill
set was part and parcel of the education of the slide rule era, sadly rare
and lacking in today's educational genre .
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:04 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> Yes, I never
Abused only by professionals and never put away dry.
Being offered where it finally fell to its knees 18 years ago. New owner
responsible for carcass removal. All parts even remotely still attached go
with the sale.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 7:25 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
I was put off by the seller's attitude, then I realized he is in "Beverly
Hills", thus being self absorbed and rude is socially accepted...
Not to worry, I won't be calling him and he doesn't "know my number".
On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 9:34 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
e replacement parts. Some of it can be reverse engineered
> it seems but it’s not always compatible. I’m thinking “OEM” ECUs and that
> kind of stuff.
> Sent from iFōn
> > On Apr 19, 2022, at 11:52 AM, G Mann via Mercedes
> > Ok, back to Mer
Ok, back to Mercedes talk, for a moment.
It has become virtually routine that someone posts a car that is offered
for sale that has issues which have turned it into a mechanical brick,
caused by "something electrical" in the "electrical to mechanical controls
systems" [now a myriad of systems,
Check battery voltage, then clean the battery posts and terminals.
Clean, Bright, and Tight... post corrosion makes bad connection, which
makes slow crank starts.. and poor charging because corroded terminals
don't let the electrons in... or out..
On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 7:16 PM Allan Streib via
Thinking strictly from the structural engineer's point of view, since this
part is a known failure point, and lives under constant stress because of
the belt tensioner, I would suggest you go with a new part rather than an
"inplace thread replacement" scheme.
Cost wise, the repair kit costs more
nk it’s good.
> I’ll get a new plug although it looked clean and good but I did not test
> it. It’s hard to crank looking at the plug.
> Thanks for the ideas
> Sent from iFōn
> > On Apr 15, 2022, at 7:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
Did you install a new spark plug?
Good chance the old plug is gas fouled from trying to start it with dead
gas, which is why you do not have spark.
Another thing that happens with small engines that do not start with dead
gas is the cylinder becomes saturated with unburned gas which effectively
Ahhh just pulled up the picture and info. That is a brick nose Ford,
which means it has a start switch mounted on the top of the steering post
which is activated by a 3/16th rod that is activated when you turn the key
[ie key moves rod, rod moves slide switch to energize start
Ford key tumbler replacement is really easy. Replacement tumbler set with
keys are cheap. There is a push pin that releases the lockset.
Done and run for less than $30 and 30 minutes.
On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 6:43 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> Heck they made 3 on
Unless you would be using it regularly [several days each month] UHaul is
your friend. An enclosed trailer that size rents by the day, week, or
month, they do the upkeep, you don't have to store, insure, or license it,
and when you are done, they park it. The $1,700 you paid for the used
This vehicle has no significant damage or problems.
Ran when parked.
Air blows ice cold.
Any other violations of the truth you would like to add to the list?
On Tue, Apr 12, 2022 at 2:08 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> On 12/04/2022 1:06 PM, Floyd
Pictures, or it didn't happen ... ;))
On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 4:21 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> Just got home from hauling 2 more 123 turbos back to the house. Once is
> most likely a parts car on the trailer. The other is an absolute pristine
> BAT bait car.
Fuel costs doubled.
Huge numbers of drivers simply quit before and during covid lockdown.
States with ports go over the top with emissions requirements that lock out
older trucks, which locks out independent owner operators trucks [a huge
segment of trucking / hauling]
Port workers locked out due
Ran when parked:
Air blows cold:
Runs fine, just needs one rod replaced:
Classic ad lines We have a new one to add to the list.
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 6:07 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> yeah that's def worth $28k
New price when sold in 1986:
$7,448 in 1986 dollars factor in inflation loss in value of dollar for
current sales price real value.
1986 Ford Escort LX Prices and Values - NADAguides
https://www.nadaguides.com › Ford › 4-Door-Hatchback
Suggest you drill out the rivets on the remaining plate, use it as a
pattern to make a mirror image piece to match the missing part. Raw
material to match should be found at your local metal supply,, and they
might be induced [bribed] to shear the diamond plate aluminum to your
Will valet parking take care of it while you and your date have dinner at
the country club?
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 8:23 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> uh OK...
> 1988 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 400 E
Since I now know you have a 5th wheel trailer, and surmise you will be
using said truck to pull it, I suggest you go the extra wallet mile for
With a trailer loaded, 5th wheel camper, or full of cars, you really want
the truck to stay and obey on the road. Putting on the cheap
Despite their best intentions to save the planet, there is a harsh reality
that has arisen which must be overcome due to a huge rise in the cost of
raw materials to make electric car batteries [using current state of the
art to make batteries]. A 472% increase in cost of lithium raw material to
In the boating world, and in many aircraft, there is a battery disconnect
switch. Then, part of the start sequence is to "turn on battery". This is
done because the boats and planes are not used on a daily basis [in many
cases] and switching the battery "off" removes it from all current draws
No engine pictures, wrong bed for that chassis. The bed is a short bed,
chassis is for a long bed, or being a dual, a flatbed cab chassis. Also,
the short bed does not have dual fenders, notice the outside dual is
outside the fender, illegal in most states.
All price points for a truck of this
Suggest you go shopping for a used engine, complete, with known mileage,
from a wreck.
I just did a search for "2014 Volkswagen Jetta 1.8 engine for sale" and it
kicked up this..
That one link bumped several into view, some below $500. All of them list
If I recall correctly, the local dealer sold them for $1,400 out the door
with a full tank of gas.
On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 8:26 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> Heh. My sister had one of these courtesy of my Dad and his program car
> stuff through GM. Hers had
32 years old, and only driven 571 miles per year, per the mileage listed.
The owner must live 250 miles away from the only V12 Jag mechanic.. ;))
Perfect color combination, however..
On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 8:16 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> Yes they are great
I would like to see one done that used a Mercedes V12 engine, with a metal
On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 8:37 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> That’s pretty well done for a fiberglass replica. With the SBC in it I
> suspect it will get up and go.
> > On
I did it for 7+ years working for a jet engine manufacturer, to a world
wide market, doing troubleshooting on million dollar engine problems and
training pilots, mechanics and support staff how to not break the engines
I never slept in the same bed more than a couple of nights,
Suggest you consult the university of internet with a search for your
particular brand and model to see if there is a failure mode that others
experience and have fixed.
I recently had a Panisonic that failed to "wave" and after searching found
that one of the two door latch hooks had cracked [in
> Sent from iFōn
> > On Mar 8, 2022, at 10:42 AM, G Mann via Mercedes
> > Global problem. We now need russian oil to run american tractors with
> > made in china and we need russian fertilizer and urea [for DEF fo
Global problem. We now need russian oil to run american tractors with parts
made in china and we need russian fertilizer and urea [for DEF for the
tractors and trucks]. Thus, USA farmers don't farm as many acres and it
costs far more per production bushel. Then, we need fuel and fertilizer
Crude oil just posted at $130 per barrel. Expect another huge rise at the
pump price soon.
The trading day isn't over yet, and could likely go even higher by days end.
On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:49 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> Still available here at $3.99, for
> > Maybe biodiesel will return to the pumps.
> > On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 11:37 PM G Mann via Mercedes <
> > wrote:
> >> Yes, diesel pickups were and still are abused by using used veg oil.
Yes, diesel pickups were and still are abused by using used veg oil. They
are ruined for the same reasons.
Used cooking oil is severely contaminated with water, acids, and food
particles that do not flow throw injection pumps and injectors. Failure to
remove those contaminants is common with the
Its' thin sheet metal so gas weld using a very small tip and small filler
rod, clamp the broken pieces down to a piece of copper backing that is
thicker than the material welded. The weld puddle will not bond to the
copper on the back side of the weld. Clean the pieces before welding so
My thoughts also. Original paint scheme, original engine, along with the
original documents and story of who the owners have been.
"Survivor status preserved", seems to me would have more long term value.
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 10:14 AM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
Interesting bit of history on wheels.
I wonder if the original numbers matching diesel engine is sitting
somewhere with the previous owner who installed the gas engine?
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 7:24 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> #506 of 531 examples
> Sent from my iPhone
> > On Mar 1, 2022, at 7:41 AM, G Mann via Mercedes
> > Roll up door with a hand operated chain drive to roll it up, instead of
> > electric. Then if the electric goes out you can operate the door.
I like this process better.
I taught myself to weld plastic about 3 years ago and quickly learned what
I needed to produce a strong repair that could easily be refinished to look
"factory". [Much the same hand / eye coordination used in TIG welding which
I've been doing for over 40 years, so easy
Roll up door with a hand operated chain drive to roll it up, instead of
electric. Then if the electric goes out you can operate the door. The roll
up door takes up the least space since you don't have the overhead rails
like garage doors with spring assist, ect.
No hinges to deal with, and the
And, that employment can only happen if there is NO native to fill the
Strict rules even before covid. All in, not a bad way to run a country,
just not convenient if you want to migrate there.
On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 4:37 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
Hold on to them. In today's market the value will only go up.
Where did you find such a treasure trove?
On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 1:42 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> Sent from my iPhone___
I'm confused. What is being sold, the truck, or the girl?
Both seem to be equally tarted up, with only some reference to Mercedes via
a tristar emblem on the grill. No "under the hood pics" .
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 7:44 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> I am
Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> It’s a brand new AGM that I did load test and it’s fine.
> Sent from my iPhone
> > On Feb 19, 2022, at 5:34 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
> > Kaleb,
> > Have you ever put a load
Have you ever put a load tester on that battery? I have had batteries that
would check as 12.3 vdc using a meter, but when hooked to a load tester,
would drop to below 7 volts, which is a failure I've forgotten over the
passage of time and messages where you might be with the battery.
On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 10:51 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> Yeah $9/qt is about normal retail price. I am surprised there is no
> discount buying in bulk.
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2022, at 11:33 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
I spoke with the NAPA warehouse manager for Phoenix area about T6 15W40
supply and ordering. His information was they would not be able to get
gallons or 2.5 gallon containers for the next year. However, if I want to
buy it in 55 gallon barrels, he could get it With shipping, a 55 gallon
Welcome to the club.
Just yesterday in Phoenix on Craigslist some guy was offering 1 gallon jugs
of 15W40 T6 Full Synthetic for $60 a gallon, ad says "I have 15 gallons".
Gouge pricing much?
On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 12:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> There is
Remove the other side and use it as a template. Find a metal supply that
can match whatever it is, have them shear it to size, THEN, rivet them both
on, or use self tapping screws.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 5:33 PM OK Don via Mercedes
> Yup - I don't see rivet holes. Rivet the other side
That is the special "High Performance Hood Stack". ... It made so much
power it destroyed the indestructible bottom end.
The "High Performance Hood Stack" comes with an IQ test... if you pass, you
can't use it.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:54 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> Sent from my iPhone
> > On Feb 13, 2022, at 12:14 AM, G Mann via Mercedes
> > One of my vehicles is a Ford F350 with the 6.0 diesel. The oil of choice
> > for that engine is now full synthetic 5W40 year round. I'm finding Shell
One of my vehicles is a Ford F350 with the 6.0 diesel. The oil of choice
for that engine is now full synthetic 5W40 year round. I'm finding Shell
Rotella T-6 synthetic 5W40 & 15W40 impossible to source. Just yesterday, my
parts manager at NAPA advised me that Shell had announced they would not be
It is a dealer listing, which I'm sure justifies the huge price.
Commissions must be made on the sale.
Unfortunate choice to paint it black. The color doesn't showcase the model
well at all, IMHO, with the Palomino interior.
It is however, the extremely rare 4 cylinder version of V8... which
USPS for that size item will come truck freight, LTL [less than truck load]
so it will be consolidated with other shipments and items going sort in the
same direction, loaded, unloaded, reloaded, and sent out again for the next
leg of the shipment to somewhere sort of in your direction Expect
25 yr old car with 100K on the clock "Only" $20,000
Is the trunk full of crack, or the owner?
Price seems wishful.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 9:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> No low ball offers like what it’s actually worth
> Sent from iFōn
"New transmission" can have layers of meaning.
"New" straight from the factory, open the box, install.
"New Rebuilt". by who? What was replaced, was the rebuilder skilled or
was it done on a dirt floor by the town drunk?
Inquiring minds want to know more details [not
>From the pictures, I'm seeing major rust repair from salt exposure.
To me, it says, "I bought it to learn MIG welding skills" and reality is, I
need to learn major sheet metal fabrication skills to make the replacement
panels it needs and I'm overwhelmed. So, buy my problem.
Your opinion may be
As it happens, I have a complete engine, with transmission, sitting in a
crate, as removed from a wreck, with 126,000 miles. From the fan to the
FOB, Phoenix, AZ ... Dock to dock truck shipping. If anyone is interested.
On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 7:06 AM Floyd Thursby via
In the history of mankind, the Natural Law of Unintended Consequences has
caused more expense, loss of life, and more oportunity than any other
single thing. In my humble opinion.
In the time when horses were used as motive power, city streets were awash
with what comes out of horses. Flies and
Wow! ... That is an inspiration to put my 85 up for sale.
It only has 106,000 miles, all original just like this one, red with
Absolutely zero rust, 300D.
I would give it away for only $21,000 , using this guy's logic for value.
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:28 AM Bob Rentfro via
“...why date a stable, well adjusted bookish suburban girl from a good
family when you can hang out with a bipolar goth chick with two moms who
lives in a van and has a pet monkey?”
You just described my ex ;))
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 6:07 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
some maximum amount of water
> in the fuel however.
> On Sun, Jan 23, 2022, at 8:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > One of these plumbed into the fuel system might cure future water in
> > fuel
> > problems.
> > Just make inspecting the water trap, and draining
One of these plumbed into the fuel system might cure future water in fuel
Just make inspecting the water trap, and draining the bowl part of every
shutdown so you have clean fuel to start.
To test your possible issue with ground, why not just clamp a jumper cable
to the mount bolt for the starter, or the engine block where you can reach,
hook the other end of the jumper cable to the negative post on the battery,
then crank it.
If it spins hard, like it should, then you know you have
Small tech question to this esteemed group.
To be a coup, isn't it required to have only two doors?
This one has four, thus, by my measure, is a "sedan".
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 5:44 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> 12cyl coup powered by Osteen (who, by the
I judge it to be some really badly done bondo, with rust under the bondo.
Just a guess, but that quarter panel got a serious hit and was repaired by
a body hack with poor skills.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:44 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
Why should I know Jamal?
Unknown to me, sports star? Rap singer? Drug cartel owner? ...
Car looks cared for, interior seems intact, etc.
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 6:09 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
What a man has when it comes to tools.
It's like a woman walking past a shoe shop and not stopping [never happens].
Thus, Kaleb, you need a second lift. You will be happy you have it.
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 3:53 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> What does
It is the holy grail finny.. diesel and manual transmission. There appears
to be minimal rust in the pictures. Runs and drives and the interior shows
complete and in pretty good shape. Go for it...if it doesn't suit you...
give it a martha job and list it on BAT for big bucks.
On Wed, Jan 12,
More careful read of the article says, "It happened in China at a city that
is central to electronics mfg... and a Russian freight aircraft Both
well known for tight quality control.. right?
On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 9:31 AM G Mann wrote:
> To be fair, what other material could be transported
To be fair, what other material could be transported by an air freight
carrier that would self ignite and burn so quickly and so hot that it would
destroy an airline size plane in minutes, without exploding?
Lithium batteries seem the most likely, and by the size and sudden
intensity of the fire,
Just by the pictures it looks to have major A pillar damage. To reconstruct
to that level would be a very serious lesson in body reconstruction and in
my opinion, the reason it is where it is, for sale.
Does it likely have good salvage parts left ? Yes, if you need them, value
is there. If you
I would love to have that car! Add the sales price with a full restore
cost and quickly you would be in the $50,000 out of pocket costs.. [or
That era of style I've always liked.
On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 8:14 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
In the real world, cold weather sucks the life out of battery reserves. So,
at wind chill minus 30, range would be much less... then, how do you heat
the car so you can stand to drive and survive... stuck in a snowbank for a
couple days with no recharge [real world that happens] you become a well
at the distance from an aircraft
instrument panel, so for really close [tiny print or short access] I use a
pair of near vision cheaters built for near microscopic focus. [seldom
needed, now that I have them.
On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 7:53 AM mitch--- via Mercedes
> On 2022-01-02 09:48, G M
I had it, total success, with minimal healing time. Vision is now restored
to 20/20. Both distance and near vision. Did both eyes, 30 days apart.
Expensive, but worth every penny.
The Doctor I used only does eye surgery, so he has done thousands of
patients over the past 30 years.
The only glasses
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