Re: [MBZ] 1987 Bentley for $6300

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I SWAG [scientific wild ass guess] that Bently parts cost is equal to Benz
parts times six, plus delivery time lapse of times 7.
Bently / Rolls are not production line cars but built one at a time [in
principle] so the supply chain for replacement spares is anemic when
compared to high volume production..
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On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 12:31 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> The price of luxury...
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 3:18 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>
> > The air conditioning is inoperative.  The seller notes that the air
> > conditioning compressor was replaced
> >
> > These most like surpass an old Benz as a time and money sink with
> > constant repairs required
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 7/25/24 3:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Half a dozen cows gave their lives for that interior.  Seems like a
> > steal.
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Re: [MBZ] SBCs

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Ohh Yee who are not faint of wallet, gaze herein for a crate chevy engine.
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On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 1:54 PM Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 15:24:35 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > What an anemic engine. No wonder SBC swaps are common in these cars.
> > You could easily get twice the power and torque out of a SBC.
>
> Where does one get a small block chevy engine?
>
> How much should one expect to pay?
>
> Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] 617 oil pan gasket

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On the MB oil pan in question, If you have a carpenter's level [metal on
would be best] lay it along the bolt line on each side and sight along the
contact line between the pan and the level.. The level will be machined to
within a couple thousands of flat and if the pan is warped, you will see a
gap where the level and the pan do not align and gauge how distorted it may
be.


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> Did a lot of ditch mowing one summer on a SuperM. Fun times.
>
> AZBob
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jul 22, 2024, at 7:16 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I replaced the pan gasket on my 1952 Farmall Super M last summer. That
> uses a nice thick cork gasket which will take up a lot of slop but the pan
> had been bashed into something, or possibly several somethings, causing the
> mating surface to not be even close to flat.
> >
> > I spent about an hour laying the pan on a (mostly) flat surface and
> prying/bashing on it to get it as flat as possible. Then I used a thin
> coating of RTV to glue the gasket to the pan. When that had mostly setup
> before I added another thin coat of RTV to the engine side of the gasket
> and hoisted it into position for the install.
> >
> > The machine still marks its territory but where I had previously been
> adding about a quart of makeup oil every time I used the machine it now
> needs maybe a pint every other year.
> >
> > I would expect a 617 pan to be able to tolerate some straightening...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, July 21, 2024 at 06:22:10 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Pan was probably overtorqued and warped at some time in the past. RTV
> may be the only answer now or a new pan.
> >
> >
> >> On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, at 17:05, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Well it can't really hurt to apply some RTV if it was done before.  Then
> >> keep an eye on it and check for flat if you have to get a new gasket
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >>> On 7/21/24 4:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Dropped the pan on the 617 doing the turbo oil drain. Whoever removed
> pan before used rtv on it. I had a new pan gasket in stock but thing might
> be 15 years old. Torqued bolts to spec. Filled with oil, pan leaks badly.
> Tightened them down just a bit more and leaks slowed down but still leaks.
> Assuming the old gasket is too hard and old to seal. Or, perhaps someone
> tighten pan too much in the past and it’s no longer flat? Anyway, do y’all
> put a light coating of RTV on both sides of the gasket when installing? Or
> should they be dry? I read online folks recommend a light coating but
> thought I would get the consensus here for when I order a new gasket and
> pull the pan again.
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Re: [MBZ] OT sitting for about 35 years found hidden in a garage 1959 Jaguar mark 9, $4, 500

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Lucas "The Prince of Darkness" electrical system... The engines are stout..
the electrical systems will drive you to suicidal insanity.. in that era,
the wire harnass is almost all braided cotton wrapped wires with connectors
that don't connect, but corrode.
At this point, replacement parts are decades of "out of production" so
ownership is not recommended for the faint of spirit, or the faint of
wallet.


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> Looks complete and not too bad for the age and history.  Could be a
> rolling resto.  I think those engines were quite stout, I wonder if it
> could be brought back to life.  Cool car
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1540120049925888/
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Re: [MBZ] Project car or crusher snack?

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Someone, somewhere, has a dream to own and drive this vehicle, just as soon
as their inheritance comes, along with the winning lottery ticket, and the
divorce is final. Until then, "get off my lawn"..
It is not on my personal "dream car list"..

On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 10:07 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> But after all is said, done, and spent, what will this not particularly
> collectibles Cadillac be worth?
>
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, 11:34 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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>
> > Solid restoration candidate for someone with very deep pockets. The
> > comment about $12k for rechroming is pretty much spot-on.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Jul 21, 2024, at 8:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] E350, arab name, ad in espanol -- 2003 Mercedes-Benz cl-class CL 55 AMG Coupe 2D, $3, 200

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Super Rare, 4 door coupe


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On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 7:12 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> And I don't think there was a 350 in 2003?
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/999637611546922
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Re: [MBZ] A bargain at any price -- 2022 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-AMG EQS - Available! - $91799.00

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For myself, if you remove the first two digits , provide flatbed delivery
to my garage, and a charging cable, I'm still not interested, TYVM..

On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 11:54 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> These were rolled out with significant fanfare, but you don’t see or hear
> much about them now.
>
> Big electric jellybean with tiny rear window.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 7, 2024, at 11:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> >
> > I think that about sums it up.  Pick any one digit to remove from the
> price and I might consider it just for grins for awhile.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 7/7/24 2:32 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Two year old, very expensive, all electric Mercedes.
> >> 5,000 miles driven in 2 years.
> >> That speaks volumes to me about just how satisfying it was to not own
> this
> >> car. Is this one of the models that Mercedes decided they were not
> going to
> >> make or support, due to low public interest and sales?
> >> [it is not on my bucket list to own, drive, rent, or store while
> >> collector value goes up.]
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 10:56 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >>> *These things do look kinda cool, sorta CLSesque, very moderne.  I do
> >>> like me some black on black but it really needs a powerful V8 or V12
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> *Engine: *Dual AC Electric Motors
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] To access the advertised pricing... 2016 Mercedes-Benz AMG GT, 33, 828 mi., , $68, 995

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"Buy Here, Pay Here" [used to be known in the trade as "Slud Lots" have a
long history of being money laundry machines that wash money for drug
cartels and criminal enterprises [hookers, child porn, etc etc]
Their client list is the Repo-Man's bread and butter..


On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 11:42 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> BUY HERE PAY HERE  FINANCIAMOS A TODOS!!!  I wonder how many of
> their customers have 725 FICO scores and how much kickback they get from
> the lenders.
>
> ONLINE TENT SALE PRICING! To access the advertised pricing, customers
> are required to finance the vehicle through one of the dealership's
> in-house lenders. Advertised prices are based on financing with a FICO
> score of 725 or higher and a positive car credit history.
>
> https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d6860923-119e-4240-9212-db6ba16309d5
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Re: [MBZ] A bargain at any price -- 2022 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-AMG EQS - Available! - $91799.00

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Two year old, very expensive, all electric Mercedes.
5,000 miles driven in 2 years.
That speaks volumes to me about just how satisfying it was to not own this
car. Is this one of the models that Mercedes decided they were not going to
make or support, due to low public interest and sales?
[it is not on my bucket list to own, drive, rent, or store while
collector value goes up.]

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> *These things do look kinda cool, sorta CLSesque, very moderne.  I do
> like me some black on black but it really needs a powerful V8 or V12
> *
>
> *Engine: *Dual AC Electric Motors
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] It's a Torbo

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Worthy of notice: As an Arizona car, no rust. Of particular notice, I see
NO cracks in the dash, and upholstery is in amazing condition, and also
shows no sun damage.. which in Arizona means the car lived in a garage, out
of the sun..
It is a very nice example of a "survivor car" that shows it has had love.
That qualifies it for a few extra Benjamins in the negotiations.
With a new set of Mitchlens, a paint correction polish, interior treatment
cleaning to put a high shine on the whole car and it's a BAT winner.. buy
it and flip it for mega bucks..

On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 9:22 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> That one looks pretty nice and coupé prices have gone up quite a bit.
> Would be worth starting negotiations at $5k if it runs and drives but
> expect to go up considerably more
>
> --RT
>
> On 7/7/24 11:55 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > What should this be negotiated down to?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Non MB Related Crack Fueled Hallucinations

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Rolled at least once,, "It will buff right out"...
"Vision"..=.. Peyote induced hallucinations
At the asking price...
Major aircraft type aluminum sheet metal repairs required,,, AND...
Airstream parts cost big bucks... so, parts + Labor + time + a fully
equipped work space... = Scrap...

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> How many times has it done a 360?
>
> On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 12:52 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> > "A great opportunity for someone that may have a vision"
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Not sure what this is but interesting grapics

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For the asking price, I would hope that horrible paint job is a wrap
graphic that can be removed, rather than the cost of a complete respray
paint job, which on that size vehicle could run north of 10K easily, in
today's market.
IMHO, the paint detracts from value, enough to walk away, regardless of
mechanical condition.

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> On Thu, Jul 4, 2024, at 22:50, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Is it a cow or a dalmation?
> >>
> >>
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-2018-mercedes-3500/7762941373.html
> >
> > Dalmatian.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb needs this -- Boeing 727 Cockpit through First Class Section

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I owned and operated an aircraft component parts supply business for about
20 years. During that time, many 727's were put into "stand down" status in
storage yards here in the USA and warehouses full of component parts were
being sold off [which I bought with documentation]. The majority of sales
went into Africa, some into South America. All customers were quite happy
to have a good source of airworthy parts [with proper paperwork] during
that "era"..
Expendable parts like sets of tires, hydraulic flap actuators, and control
system parts were in high demand, because production of new parts to
support the worldwide fleet was drying up.
Engine overhaul parts were in very high demand also during that time. I
delivered, they paid, we were both happy.

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> I’ll bet there are still a bunch in South and Central America? That seems
> to be where all of the spent airframes go when they’re taken out of
> commercial service. I can recall seeing DC-3s when I worked in that part of
> the world, but i never got to fly on one, darn it!
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 4, 2024, at 10:39 AM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > The 727 fleet worldwide reached the point where all time and cycle
> limited
> > components were life cycled out, and replacement parts became NLA, much
> > like we are having with our much loved Mercedes, older units.
> > The new aircraft that replaced them were faster, hauled more passengers
> for
> > less money, and used less fuel, so it was time to retire them to scrap
> > value.
> > So goes life in industry... newer, faster, better, wins the race to
> profit.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 10:28 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yea. It’s too bad the 727 is not still used.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jul 4, 2024, at 12:25 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> At last international count there are zero 727's in fleet service
> >> hauling
> >>> passengers. The remaining few in use are shown as cargo, or "special
> use"
> >>> [whatever that may be].
> >>> So, the market for 727 qualified maintenance techs is pretty dry.
> >>> I have an aviation friend that built a large new hanger-dominium when
> he
> >>> retired and he mounted the front section of a DC6 [everything forward
> of
> >>> the wing main spar] sticking out the front of his "aviation palace"
> that
> >> he
> >>> uses as a bar, so you can sit in the captain's seat and fly no matter
> how
> >>> drunk you get, since it is about 25 ft in the air.
> >>> [It's his nickel, he can spend it any way he wants to.. ;)) ]
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 10:11 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Looks like something that would be a Spartan. Yep, that’s where it
> is. I
> >>>> guess they don’t train on the 27 anymore.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jul 4, 2024, at 12:08 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Q: Is the stand included in the Sale or just the Cock pit
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A: Yes
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2024, at 12:02, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>>>> and it's local
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.govdeals.com/asset/21/24030
> >>>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb needs this -- Boeing 727 Cockpit through First Class Section

[G Mann via Mercedes]

The 727 fleet worldwide reached the point where all time and cycle limited
components were life cycled out, and replacement parts became NLA, much
like we are having with our much loved Mercedes, older units.
The new aircraft that replaced them were faster, hauled more passengers for
less money, and used less fuel, so it was time to retire them to scrap
value.
So goes life in industry... newer, faster, better, wins the race to profit.

On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 10:28 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Yea. It’s too bad the 727 is not still used.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 4, 2024, at 12:25 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > At last international count there are zero 727's in fleet service
> hauling
> > passengers. The remaining few in use are shown as cargo, or "special use"
> > [whatever that may be].
> > So, the market for 727 qualified maintenance techs is pretty dry.
> > I have an aviation friend that built a large new hanger-dominium when he
> > retired and he mounted the front section of a DC6 [everything forward of
> > the wing main spar] sticking out the front of his "aviation palace" that
> he
> > uses as a bar, so you can sit in the captain's seat and fly no matter how
> > drunk you get, since it is about 25 ft in the air.
> > [It's his nickel, he can spend it any way he wants to.. ;)) ]
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 10:11 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Looks like something that would be a Spartan. Yep, that’s where it is. I
> >> guess they don’t train on the 27 anymore.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jul 4, 2024, at 12:08 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Q: Is the stand included in the Sale or just the Cock pit
> >>>
> >>> A: Yes
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2024, at 12:02, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>> and it's local
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.govdeals.com/asset/21/24030
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> --FT
> >>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb needs this -- Boeing 727 Cockpit through First Class Section

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At last international count there are zero 727's in fleet service hauling
passengers. The remaining few in use are shown as cargo, or "special use"
[whatever that may be].
So, the market for 727 qualified maintenance techs is pretty dry.
I have an aviation friend that built a large new hanger-dominium when he
retired and he mounted the front section of a DC6 [everything forward of
the wing main spar] sticking out the front of his "aviation palace" that he
uses as a bar, so you can sit in the captain's seat and fly no matter how
drunk you get, since it is about 25 ft in the air.
[It's his nickel, he can spend it any way he wants to.. ;)) ]

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> Looks like something that would be a Spartan. Yep, that’s where it is. I
> guess they don’t train on the 27 anymore.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 4, 2024, at 12:08 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Q: Is the stand included in the Sale or just the Cock pit
> >
> > A: Yes
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 4, 2024, at 12:02, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >> and it's local
> >>
> >> https://www.govdeals.com/asset/21/24030
> >>
> >> --
> >> --FT
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Geez

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[while]  ... White... autocorrect wins again.. my bad..

On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 8:37 PM G Mann  wrote:

> Has anyone , over the years, ever made a set of master molds and made
> replacements that are recast on the original steel frame bits that make the
> original wheel?
> It seems that there would be a solid market, since the cracked and often
> nearly destroyed while wheels are one item that can't be obtained, yet
> since it is "in your face [and hands]" regardless of how close to a 100
> point car you may have restored.
> Cottage industry anyone?
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 8:06 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> > The ... Bakelite steering wheel ... was a thing of beauty.
>>
>>
>> I don't believe it's Bakelite.  That is fairly brittle stuff, and not
>> very strong.
>> Honestly it looks more like some sort of epoxy to me.
>>
>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Geez

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Has anyone , over the years, ever made a set of master molds and made
replacements that are recast on the original steel frame bits that make the
original wheel?
It seems that there would be a solid market, since the cracked and often
nearly destroyed while wheels are one item that can't be obtained, yet
since it is "in your face [and hands]" regardless of how close to a 100
point car you may have restored.
Cottage industry anyone?

On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 8:06 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> > The ... Bakelite steering wheel ... was a thing of beauty.
>
>
> I don't believe it's Bakelite.  That is fairly brittle stuff, and not very
> strong.
> Honestly it looks more like some sort of epoxy to me.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT 1/2 scale f4u corsair Orderment

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My first thought is to buy it and mount it on a stand [enclose the engine
bay and make a canopy for it]... then use it as a wind sock on a private
airport. The canopy could be aluminium, just paint it white.
Hang a prop in the nose hooked to a wind generator and a battery bank to
run runway lights with an on/off switch on radio frequency, so you could
land at night.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 6:53 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> First question is, why?
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 3, 2024, at 6:13 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is a 1/2 scale f4u corsair this is a yard Orderment only does not
> have motor can not be mad to fly yard Decoration only 2000 obo
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/share/yvytDiWfamoj94y8/?mibextid=79PoIi
> >
> > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cadillacs

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General Motors diesel cars ruined the diesel car market in America for a
very long time. They did not "get it right" and then did not support what
they built and sold.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 5:20 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> My dad almost bought a ‘79 Eldorado Barritz Diesel but he decided on a’79
> Toronado diesel instead.  I thought that Eldorado was the living end for an
> American made car … as I was driving around my ‘72 220D invoking the ire of
> all the staunch UAW men in our little town.
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 27, 2024, at 5:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/share/sL93GwjJPoRKueqS/?mibextid=79PoIi
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Re: [MBZ] Now Wait a Minute

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Add to the list:
Air blows cold:
Ran when parked:
New factory warranty on a 14 yr old car:
[free sarcasm, no charge]

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 8:49 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Because they copied the marketing spiel for a new car off the MBUSA
> website or someplace else?
>
> That thing is close to the end with nearly 250k on the clock.
>
> -D
> > On Jun 23, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Why do you suppose this has "a new factory warranty from Mercedes Benz
> covering ten years and 120,000 miles on most critical parts"?
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/share/szNYPM1WxzeQMT9m/
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Media For Vibratory Tumbler

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Since you are polishing something that is chrome plated, walnut shell is
too soft to do much. Suggest you use the small triangle abrasives instead.
Since you want to polish the parts, not strip them, suggest that you
approach the task in 15 minute sets.. ie run them with the abrasive
triangles for 15, check them, add more scrub time as needed with frequent
checks on progress... a 320 grit triangle scrub, check the parts, if they
clean up, polish them with 400 grit scrub..
Since they are likely plated parts, and you don't know how thick the
plating is, caution is your friend.

On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 9:34 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> I remember ages ago going to the Hamilton Standard plant where wind
> machine blades were being made. They also refurbished propellers there.
>
> They had this machine that was full of ceramic pellets that was vibrating
> like crazy. I had never seen such a thing. The engineer I was visiting
> showed it to me. It was maybe like a 3-4gal bucket size and they dumped
> parts into it and let it run for however long. Parts came out all shiny and
> new looking.
>
> I wanted one.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Jun 16, 2024, at 10:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I was looking for something to clean chrome plated hardware used on my
> pinball machines. I had a DIY vibratory cleaner thing I bodged up with an
> old pad sander that actually worked pretty well. No telling where it
> disappeared to.
> >
> > Anyway, I was at Harbor Fright today, looking at a little one of these
> they’re closing out. Alas, despite saying there was one in stock at my
> store, there wasn’t - at least not other than the floor model, which they
> won’t sell. Now searching their website for alternatives, I see a much
> larger model that’s also being closed out, and yes, it showed one in
> inventory. Along with it I got some walnut blasting media and some ceramic
> triangles(?)
> >
> > Anyway, I filled it with about five pounds of walnuts and dropped 10
> screws of different sizes and set my timer for 10 minutes. No difference to
> speak of. 15 minutes, a little better.
> >
> > Long story short, how long should I expect to run this thing to get
> these clean again? They’re not rusted, just dull from age and playfield wax.
> >
> > That and if I can’t get the desired results with this, will an
> ultrasonic cleaner do any better? What about on plastic parts?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Daughter used it to go to college

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Notice it has rock lights, because rock climbing isn't exciting enough in
good daylight...
JEEP  "Just Everyone Else's Parts" [I'm sure it was only driven to Sunday
School and Wednesday night prayer meetings.. Odometer racked up a bunch of
miles, it seems, 230K miles, so it's been used.

On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 7:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> I’d go out with a girl who drove that
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Jun 16, 2024, at 9:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Hm. Not exactly a "College Girl" car is it? But it does have a Bradley
> sticker so maybe the story is true.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Electric egg 46% discount in 2 yr! Mercedes-Benz Sedan EQS 580 4MATIC-2022-LIKE NEW - $65, 000 (NORTH NAPLES)

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Someone who is a "high math genius" please calculate the true dollar cost
per driven mile for this EV wonder car.. factoring in financing interest
costs, insurance costs, depreciation factors, etc.
My gut feel is that this vehicle represents one of the most expensive in
history to own and support vs useful miles driven cost.
[What is the useful service life expectancy?]

On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 9:27 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Next year you could get it for $30k
>
> When fully charged it registers 450 miles driving distance. At only two
> years old, it's a steal!
>
>
> https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col/cto/d/naples-mercedes-benz-sedan-eqs-580/7757484504.html
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Re: [MBZ] I don't dislike this -- 2007 Mercedes-Benz clk 550 dtm clone track car, $29, 800

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$900 car, with $25,000 worth of stickers.
The only thing missing is the flashing neon light in the rear window that
says "I'm guilty, arrest me now".
[Sarcasm, no charge]

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 6:46 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Looks like a quality build.  It could probably benefit from a big
> turboed M157
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/433201956268853
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Re: [MBZ] What you see is what you get, 2007 Mercedes-Benz clk-class CLK 550 Coupe 2D, $1, 000

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It has that special "rode hard and put away sweaty and wet patina"
[extra charge for that]
If you can get the windows down the air will blow cold when you tow it away
on the rollback truck..

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 6:55 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Looks rough
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/490350890200640
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Re: [MBZ] Stuck garbage disposal

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Grind some ice cubes, They will help move whatever might still be in the
grinder, and have enough water to sort of "lube the move" as they are being
ground up.
Unless the Mrs. sent a stainless steel spoon into the grinder... then it's
time for a new one anyway.. [No, she will not confess .. don't ask me how I
know.].


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> Might still have a bit of bone or whatever it was stuck it it that still
> rubbing. Try cycling it on and off with a lot of water running.
>
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> > Might. It might go tits up pretty soon but shall see. It just doesn’t
> > sound the same to me. This is THE top of the like most powerful
> > insinkerator that is only about 4 or so years old. It’s wisper quiet
> > and you can hardly hear it running when turned on. It’s now noticeable
> > louder and not sure how much chopping it’s doing. Of course I have not
> > actually used it yet so we shall see.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Humongous solar plant goes online in China

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Imagine the damage a solar flare or an EMP strike would do to that.
I wonder if there are any such protections built in the design.
Desert wind storms in that area? Hail?
Huge investment, could be a huge loss quickly.

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> >
> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-brings-worlds-largest-solar-162205069.html
>
> 5gW is 200,000 acres? 312 square miles? That's more than 17 miles
> squared. That's smaller than the county I live in, but it's still pretty
> big.
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Re: [MBZ] clean title in hand absolutely probably - 1985 300D - $13, 700

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Special and very rare phantom 6th cylinder... "invisible power"..
"I don't know what I've got" on steroids...
Harmph... !!

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> What's the point of red pinstriping?  Car is gray and black.
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 8:40 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> > with a great specimen for Mercedes is offered to you for the first and
> > last time
> >
> > —FT (translated from Upper Volta dialect of Swahili)
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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> > > On Jun 2, 2024, at 11:41 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> > >
> > > Lots o' fresh Armor-All in those photos.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] IM SURE SOMEONE HAS THE TIME AND PATIENCE TOO BRING THIS BABY BACK TO LIFE

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Totaled, The ask is far too high. Without doubt, there is frame damage that
must be repaired, then I conservatively estimate replacement cost for all
the deployed air bags would run in excess of $12,000.00.
Call a Pic and Pull yard, sell it for what they will give you and be done
with it.. "It's dead Jim"...


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> now trying get out from under it.
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Someone Has All the Jokes

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That will buff right out.
Air blows cold and it ran when parked.
Hahahahah
It is fake book market place... every time I go there I have to donate a
bucket of brain cells..


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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1628065051362280/
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Re: [MBZ] Even on Cloudy Days This Has Somehow Been in the Sun

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Arizona "No Rust" so the body is worth a nice repaint.
Jump on it like a hobo on a hot dog.. 😁😁

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> Patina on steroids.
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Re: [MBZ] Kinda OT...What's Up With the Pics?

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Looking at the small section of the background above the wall behind the
car, it looks like pretty strong cloud cover, which reduces available
ambient lighting, thus, more than fancy azz iphone 14 can filter and adjust
for to give sharp focus..
[owns a fancy azz iphone 14 pro max and have taken some janky pics in low
light conditions because of this, so presuming it's a "shared issue"]

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> Why do these pics look so janky? I used my fancy ass iPhone 14 like I
> always do:
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Re: [MBZ] Who did Ricky p!$$ off? 2007 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 550 Sedan 4D, $2, 200

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Girlfriend or spouse with baseball bat all glass hits, no body hits..
so, $5,000 in glass damage replacement, [easily].
I call it as female retribution for some kind of relationship insult..
Your personal mileage may vary.. just my assessment.

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> ouchies
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/477990511228015
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Re: [MBZ] This is how you market a car

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$2,000 for the car... $17,000.00 for the photographer's fees.
Yeah... seems fair.. pass the crack pipe..

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 3:18 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> SALEING FOR $19,000
>
> --FT
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] If You Have a Spare Transmission...

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Just so happens, I have 3 spare transmissions.. Does anybody want one? Just
had a better look.. make that 4 spare transmissions.


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> Could be a fun rebuild project
>
> --FT
>
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a 600 Project?

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B.O.A.T.  Bring Out Another Thousand ...
That is a car that you have to "Want to Own" to buy and keep..
I have moved the same car 3 times here on my car haul trailer over the past
12 years as it has been bought, stored, resold, and repeated each time..
Since the air suspension has never been rebuilt by either owner, they have
kept my number because I have a low angle load trailer to load and move
it... Not on my "car bucket list" to ever own one.

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Re: [MBZ] Electric Vehicles

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It seems to me, the script here , as so far written, should be sent to
Babylon Bee, with a release for them to do with it as they wish..
Since their stock and trade is satirical and sarcastic humor, their well
established public vehicle of delivery seems perhaps ready made for a
series of "public service announcements" about the current enamored
public's view on EV's for everyone.
To quote a popular black and white TV show .. "Just the facts, Mam"

On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 4:55 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> The electric cars themselves are quite efficient, especially with
> regenerative
> braking.  That is not the problem, other than the self-discharge rate.
>
> But, like the fact that they're ALL _remote_ emissions vehicles, and
> not _zero_ emissions vehicles, the inefficiencies in the _charging_
> side of the equation are never talked about.  And they're... substantial.
>
> The Tesla has to run the AC while charging to keep the battery pack
> cool enough to charge safely.  You think that energy, both what is being
> pumped out of the pack and the energy necessary to do the pumping,
> is free?
>
> "If gasoline-powered vehicles were as inefficient filling up as EV's, this
> is what it might look like."  < cars
> and overhead pipes, spraying out around the filler flap, people ducking
> and running in panic, using umbrellas, etc.>>
>
> "But that's not how it is.  Modern gasoline-powered vehicles are clean and
> efficient."  Etc.
>
> Oh, that PSA ad could be _so_ much fun!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Electric Vehicles

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Jim,
Brilliant idea.
Don't forget to factor in all the energy loss caused by heavy mining to
first collect the rare earth metals to make the EV batteries, and then
factor the loss due to disposal of those same batteries.
That would be a powerful presentation in visual form.
Do it.. form an internet group of skilled people who can do it, and with a
"go fund me" to pay for it while "Saving the world"..
G. Mann...

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> I would like to see a PSA where the systemic efficiency of EV's was
> modeled,
> using plumbing.  Specifically a water analog starting with a large tank
> representing
> the generating station, with dripping pipes and joints that represent the
> efficiency
> of the transmission and distribution losses, and a leaky filler hose that
> represented
> the charging efficiency of the EV battery.  And a car that drips
> representing the
> battery self-discharge rate.
>
> I think the visual image of 'filling' the pseudo-EV using sweating,
> dripping,
> and spraying pipes and nozzles would dismay many of the would-be-smug
> proponents, and ought to go a long way towards tempering the unjustified
> exuberance that faction currently has.
>
> A nice avuncular voice-over starting out: "Imagine if we could SEE the
> electrons
> we are using to fuel our nationwide EV fleet..."
>
> I believe our grid is something like 50% efficient, leaving out all the
> ills of batteries.
> This will NOT be a dry demonstration!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Electric Vehicles

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I will remotely consider owning an EV only when they come with a spare 5
gallon container full of electrons for when it is out of charge and out of
range of a place to plug it in.
Point 1: They are over priced
Point 2: Battery service life is limited and replacement costs far exceed
the value of the car when the battery dies.
Point 3: Disposal of the dead and unrepairable very expensive battery
presents a huge environmental toxic waste problem, for which there is no
current or near future solution.
Point 4: Even at the current ownership density, the electrical grid is over
task to provide sufficient electrons to "gas them up", and, strictly from
the engineering view, rebuilding the electrical grid to meet present and
future demands [if we all only drove EV's] would cost many Billions of
dollars, and take decades to approve new power generation plants, since
coal and nuke are now virtually outlawed, all viable streams have been
dammed and producing at capacity, [example, Lake Meade draw down in last 3
years left it nearly empty.]
Point 5: If you give proper consideration to the environmental damage
mining and processing of rare earth materials causes, world wide, to
produce the exotic EV batteries, then add the disposal environmental
problems , lack of ability to recover rare earth materials from the "dead
batteries" the highly touted "EV" comes off the assembly line with an
environmental toxic load that far exceeds its capacity to "Save the
environment"  and that is brand new, never driven, even.
Bottom line, EV's are a man made environmental disaster produced under the
governmental guise of "saving the world"..
{ Short rant complete, note the Mercedes has structurally withdrawn from
the EV marketplace.. }
G. Mann ...

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> The chinee are flooding Euro markets with cheepcheep EVs, in UK they are
> like £12k, cheeper than anything any brit or euro builder can build and
> cheaper than any other vehicle on the market.  A big RORO dumped off
> like a thousand of them a few weeks ago at some UK port.  They are
> likely low-powered, low-range tin cans that might appeal to some if they
> have travel that would fit within the limitations of a low-end EV.  Saw
> a report that the chinee are building so many more EVs than needed for
> domestic consumption that they are also dumping them in Germany etc.
> where they are awaiting release to the markets (if that happens).  If
> the brits and euros cut their own throats with EV mandates and allowing
> chinee imports that will be the death of local auto manufacturing, EV
> products or not.  Not sure they would be approved for US markets but who
> knows what our elected fools will do.
>
> The other issue that is looming as EV adoption increases is charging the
> things.  You would need a home charger of some significant capacity to
> charge them quickly (probably minimum 40A if not much more).  For those
> who don't have their own house where they could install a charger, they
> have to rely on public chargers or in their apartment complexes etc.  It
> takes quite a bit of time to charge an EV although supercharging can be
> fairly fast but 2 problems -- the batteries can't take multiple
> sequential fast charges so will drop charge rate and increase charge
> time, and if multiple cars are at multi-outlet charging station there is
> not enough current from the grid to do them all at once, so the chargers
> choke the current among each charger and then it takes longer.  So you
> see these long queues at charging stations when everyone decides they
> need juice for tomorrow, or they are on a trip and hit a charging
> station along with many others, and they can sit for hours waiting for
> the queue to move.  Both these issues are problematic if you want to go
> on a longer trip in any reasonable time, or even charge your car in some
> reasonable time for your daily commute.
>
> Check out a youtube channel MGUY Australia, he has been putting out some
> pretty amazing vids about the whole technical and practical nonsense of
> mandating EVs.
>
> I think the things have a place in the world and technically are kinda
> cool (not that I would be keen on one) but are the not the end game.
> Plug-in hybrids with regen make a lot more sense.  Interestingly in
> Norway where electricity is quite plentiful and apparently relatively
> cheap, EV adoption has been high (subsidies, COA, etc.) but I saw that
> many people have a gasser they keep too, for longer trips and in the
> winter when EV range goes to shite due to the cold.  So a mix is what
> the market votes for even when an EV is a relatively cheap option.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 5/7/24 11:58 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> > I am not a real fan of the electric vehicles being pushed upon us by
> > the fools who think they are wonderful, but I see enough propaganda on
> > a daily basis to make me think about them.
> >
> > Some of you folks ar

Re: [MBZ] OT - Looking for a Chainsaw?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

For trimming limbs, from a downed tree, I find a sharp axe is much easier
to deal with than batteries or cords, or gas chainsaw. It always starts, no
gas to mix, and never needs carb cleaned, and, it's easier to carry.

On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 8:13 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And they (Milwaukee) do have a number of options, so maybe I’ll look at
> that. Need to do some research on them, too.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 6, 2024, at 7:58 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Some good points, Allan, thanks!
> >
> > I’m heavily invested in the MIlwaukee “M18” platform, so I may look and
> see what they have. Never thought to look there…duh!
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On May 6, 2024, at 6:59 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just to add, I also have their electric push mower, which uses the same
> batteries.
> >>
> >> Except for the color and branding, it looks identical to a lot of the
> electric mowers sold at Lowes, Amazon, and other places. I don't know if
> the batteries are interchangable but I think they are all made by the same
> Taiwanese or Chinese manufacturer.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 6, 2024, at 20:42, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> I'm happy with my Harbor Freight Atlas battery electric chainsaw. I
> >>> doubt it would hold up to daily professional use but for what I need
> it
> >>> has done fine so far.
> >>>
> >>> If you're already invested in another battery system I would probably
> >>> stay with that. I don't think there's a whole lot of difference in the
> >>> saws.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, not fooling with carbs every spring, mixing two-stroke oil and
> >>> gas, trying to get it to start and stay running -- so nice.
> >>>
> >>> Allan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 6, 2024, at 19:59, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>  Stihl, I would expect, but does anyone have any experience with their
>  battery-operated saws? I don’t need to fell 100-year-old Ponderosa
>  pines onmy lot, I’ve got a guy to do that for me. But - I need to
>  de-limb and do other light trimming.
> 
>  Battery just makes so much sense these days. I’ve got a decent used
>  Stihl in the garage right now that needs a carb rebuild, I suspect,
> as
>  I can’t get it started to save my life (it does run on ether,
> though!)
>  I’m looking for easy, not more work.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] This looks incredibly weird -- 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450SL - $22, 500 (Palm Coast)

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My best guess is that somewhere in Europe there is a car bone yard with a
set that is decent or could be refurbed to decent.. "If money is no object,
anything is possible"... :))
The ask on this car is out of my lunch money limit, so I can only lust for
it.. If you buy it, take me for a ride... [even with the ugly bumpers, haha]

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> I suppose those can still be found?
>
> --FT
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> > On Apr 30, 2024, at 7:13 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
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> >
> > Throw a set of Euro style bumpers on it and I could love it for life.
> > It presents well in the Pics [except for those bone ugly bumpers].
> >
> >
> >> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 12:10 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> Those park benches really do it no good aesthetically
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://daytona.craigslist.org/cto/d/palm-coast-1974-mercedes-benz-450sl/7742114036.html
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Re: [MBZ] This looks incredibly weird -- 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450SL - $22, 500 (Palm Coast)

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Throw a set of Euro style bumpers on it and I could love it for life.
It presents well in the Pics [except for those bone ugly bumpers].


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> Those park benches really do it no good aesthetically
>
>
> https://daytona.craigslist.org/cto/d/palm-coast-1974-mercedes-benz-450sl/7742114036.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT 2005 parting aut colorado 4 cilinder,$100

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"Ran when parked"


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> oopsies
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Birthday, Kleb!

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We would, but nobody wants to pay the tow bill or buy a chainsaw to cut the
tree that has grown through where the floorboards used to be.
Happy Birthday anyway.. Getting older now... does it hurt yet?

On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 1:13 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Y’all should take up a collection to buy me an Okie acres yard queen for
> my birthday.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Apr 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> > It’s Okieboy’s birthday! Happy Birthday, Kleb!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Scam? -- 1958 Mercedes-Benz 190SL - $29,000

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I may have the winning lottery ticket. If I do, I would be all over that
car like a hobo on a hotdog.
I love it. With the hard top even.
G. Mann ~~~

On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 11:10 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Price seems very low
>
>
> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-beach-1958-mercedes-benz/7738997145.html
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Re: [MBZ] The HF fancy oil extractor

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Congratulations !!
Good catch I think.

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> Fakebook, brand new in the box never even opened for $100
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Cleaning a Recliner

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This has worked for me, in Arizona also, so it may work for you.
Remove chair to the patio or driveway. Elevate the chair on blocks or
bricks to make it a comfortable working height.  Recline it so the various
areas are all spread out and then:
Wet it with a garden hose on "spray" ... Spray the fabric with Dawn
dishwashing soap from a spray bottle ... scrub fabric with a soft brush [I
used one made for scrubbing leather seats from an auto store, but any soft
brush will work.. Work up a lather with good suds from the Dawn...
Rinse with garden hose and repeat if necessary on remaining soiled spots.
Rinse again..
Leave the chair in Arizona dry heat to drain and dry for however long it
takes.
The foam cushions will dry out, the fabric will dry out, and with the chair
fully reclined and open, it will drain away any remaining water and the
Arizona sun will evaporate the rest.
When it's nice and dry, [touch will tell you if the foam cushions are fully
dried out]. fold the fresh cleaned chair and return to service.


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> Who among us is well versed in cleaning furniture fabric? I know we all
> can tackle car upholstery and make it look brand new, but I think requires
> a slightly different skillset.
>
> I have a very light grey fabric recliner I bought to be used exclusively
> whilst standing the grandpa watch. It is a looped fabric, more
> specifically, boucle.
> SIL sat in it for several one evening and then we noticed it had become
> really dirty over the course of a couple of days. Knowing the SIL is a
> known post shower shea butter smearer, we reckon he transferred said shea
> butter from his arms and legs to the fabric over the course of watching the
> Phoenix Suns get their arses kicked.
> Mrs. Bob has attempted to clean in accordance with the manufacturer's
> instructions (a little soap [Dawn the lady at the store said] and water in
> a spray bottle, rubbing with a white microfiber towel) to no avail.
> I busted out the McCulloch MC1275 and gave steam a try on the leg rest
> (spray the leg rest with the soap solution, hit it with the white
> microfiber towel covered brush attachment for the steam wand, carefully
> steam and bush the fabric, then extract any residual) and at first look it
> doesn't appear to have done any good at all.
>
> Any wisdom before I call a "professional"?
>
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Re: [MBZ] FBMP A Rant

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Facebook Marketplace apparently was designed by a group of people who never
actually worked in a real business or ever ran a lemonade stand in their
youth. They designed the entire platform so that the seller and the buyer
have no easy [or hard] way to ever actually meet and exchange goods for
money.
"The closer I get to humanity the further I want to be away from it"
G. Mann .. circa current era ..

On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 6:55 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> This is the hole that FBMP is, sadly. Despite the abuse, I continue to
> check it regularly for deals. I’ve found a fair number, it’s a PITA, but
> sometimes worth the effort.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Apr 18, 2024, at 9:51 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Okay, so BIL is in Florida, so I figured I'd look for a car to have
> shipped to the rust belt. Found a W210 two hours after it was listed. Cool.
> Message the guy, no response. Just checked again, found the car relisted
> (twice), responded to both ads, still no response. Grr.
> >
> > I have messaged others locally about other things, and been ghosted.
> Whenever I do get a response, even "It's been sold", I reply with plenty of
> gratitude.
> >
> > Has the general population's IQ declined so much that people can't even
> respond to an inquiry? WTF? If you really don't want to sell the car or
> whatever, don't list it.
> >
> > My distain for humanity is becoming more profound daily.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Someone needs these Rims,$500

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Note to self:  Buy more anti-nausea medication .. Large size..


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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/744429191179950
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Re: [MBZ] '79 Chrysler Newport with a garish red interior

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<<< Listening to disco played on an 8 track" 
There, I fixed it for you...


On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 12:43 PM Robert Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> I want to drive that car while smoking menthol cigarettes and listening to
> disco.
>
>
>
> AZBob
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows
>
>
>
> *From: *Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, April 10, 2024 12:06 PM
> *To: *Mercedes Discussion List 
> *Cc: *Andrew Strasfogel 
> *Subject: *[MBZ] '79 Chrysler Newport with a garish red interior
>
>
>
> Matches my gal's lipstick shade.
>
>
>
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-chrysler-newport/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2024-04-10
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Re: [MBZ] Who wants to get strapped and go with me to get this

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Take the VIN number and pictures of the car, If it has a license plate
still attached, picture of that, to your local Department of Vehicles
License office, tell them the story and ask them to do a title search on it
and a lien search.
Talk nice to them.. you might have to bump it up to a supervisor to get
results, but with the VIN number they can find if there is a title, if it
was reported stolen, or if there is a lien.. What they won't do, is reveal
the name of the title holder, or lien holder..
They can't give that out.
But, it's a place to start.. If possible, trailer the car to the DMV
office, and let them look it over... It's a pain to go through those steps,
but will lay groundwork for filing for a lost title, or other methods to
gain legal registered ownership [with registration and license issued].

On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 8:42 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> How would you know that he owns it and it has no liens? Can you do some
> sort of searches that would satisfy you that you are not buying into
> trouble?
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 05/04/2024 10:38 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > I feel with that one you would just show up with $1000, not say a word,
> exchange key for money, ask no questions, don’t pop the hood do nothing and
> drive away.
> >
> > AZBob
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On Apr 5, 2024, at 8:19 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> Don’t have title $1000
> >>
> >> https://www.facebook.com/share/7UTeieve3zq73ojR/?mibextid=79PoIi
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Re: [MBZ] has the diesel engine located in Perry GA at the moment 1992 Mercedes Benz, $2, 000

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This is a new standard for "Needs some minor work" ..
Since the engine is in another city.
Special... really special... cognitive resonance scale required.

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 9:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> car needs sone minor mechanic work
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1744675552688984/
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Re: [MBZ] OT y’all seeing this bridge collapse?

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Lloyds of London insurance company stock just took a giant hit, I wager
[assuming they are the ins carrier for the shipping company..]
Since there were cars on the bridge, any count on how many folks died in
this disaster?

On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 10:52 AM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N39w6aQFKSQ
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 10:25 AM Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
> > Like a house of cards...  Wonder why the far right span fell as well?
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 8:50 AM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I drove on that bridge a few times when I lived back East...
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 7:43 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> > Yea
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPhone
> >> >
> >> > > On Mar 26, 2024, at 7:23 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Wow. Incredible.
> >> > >
> >> > > Moment Baltimore bridge collapses after being hit by ship
> >> > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68663488
> >> > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT How stupid am i? Hot Tub,$300$400

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If you want a cold "hot tub" wire it all 110V ... If you want a "Hot Tub"..
you will want it wired into 220V with a stand alone dedicated circuit
breaker for the tub.. Plus.. you will absolutely want to wire in a circuit
disconnect "near the tub".. by code, you can't reach anything electrical
while in the tub and wet so plan that into the disconnect location.
Also, you will want a good quality, insulated cover, that can be opened and
closed easily, but seals the tub so critters can't invite themselves into
your new "critter water trough" 
Have fun, plan for your electric bill to increase every time you heat the
tub full of H20... and chemicals,,, and, and, and... etc.

On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 5:28 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> I’ll keep a gallon jug of bleach and a jar of cipro tabs right next to it
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Mar 24, 2024, at 7:44 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ask a professional pool person about hot tubs sometime. You’ll never
> put a foot/hand/finger/anything in one again.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Mar 24, 2024, at 7:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Lady friend says she would like a hot tub.  Day or so later I see on
> FBMP a hot tub close by for $400, needs a motor/rebuild.  H looks
> fairly nice.  I send her the link, she likes it, I say I could probably fix
> it and get it going. She contacts the guy, he gets back to her says she
> (that would be me) can see it today.  Meanwhile price drops to $300.  I go
> look at it, it has a control board inside that might or might not be a
> little crusty, and stuff has been kinda moved around and disconnected, the
> motor terminals on a relay board look a little burned, not sure what that
> is about.  The unit itself looks pretty nice though.
> >>
> >> I'm talking to the guy, he just wants it gone.  I didn't even work him
> over, just said I didn't think the lady friend would want something that
> might not be reliable, I could mess with it, maybe I would use it blahblah
> but I have plenty to keep me occupied blahblahblah and ready to walk away,
> he says how about $200.  hmmm why not? Sold!  Pretty easy deal.
> >>
> >> So anyway now I have this thing to mess with (I have to take my trailer
> over to get it tomorrow). Basically it looks like a motor, pump, and
> heater, it has some kind of controller and some various boxes that look
> maybe to control other things down in the mechanical area, maybe the jets
> or something if they have solenoids on them, I don't know.  I think the
> pump body itself is gone but online I found some fairly cheap.  I'll try to
> find a manual for the thing and a schematic to figure out what goes where.
> There are local motor rebuilders so I will take it to one and see what
> might be wrong with it, could just be the capacitors or something, I don't
> know much about electric motors.  Looks like it can be wired 110V or 220V
> either way, I'll see what that is about to at least use 110V to see if I
> can get it running. It looks basically like your standard HVAC unit motor,
> I think I have one kicking around somewhere, it just needs to bolt up to
> and run a pump.
> >>
> >> I'm thinking if all it really needs is a motor switch, a heater switch,
> and something to open jets I could just hard wire switches to those bits
> and bypass the controller board if it is inop, hit the buttons when you
> want to use it and bypass whatever the controller thingie does.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Dorman v OEM

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Overall, I have had good service with Dorman products.
In the daisy chain of chineseium, Dorman has been generally at a higher
quality standard.
Pick one up at the seller's, inspect it, walk it out to the car and do a
point by point comparison as to fitment.. Then decide.
Having it in your hand before you buy it is golden..


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> I would say go for it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 21, 2024, at 12:56 PM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes <
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>
> 
>
> I’m going to replace the leaking coolant tank on my ML. The clowns at
> Autohaus AZ have them, an OEM MB for $188, but they won’t allow me to pick
> it up, it has to be shipped. $13 and 8-14 days. Dummy boo-boo heads.
>
> Several other places have the MB tanks, but shipping everywhere seems to
> be in the almost two week window and I will need to be able to use this
> before then. Of course the three stealers in Phoenix have them (from Cali
> in two days), two places charging $248, one knucklehead charging $368.
> Charlatans. MB Laredo has one at a good price, but est. delivery April 1.
>
>
>
> Mr. Flaparoonie has a Dorman Coolant Recovery Tank for $81. Does anyone
> have any experience with this Dorman brand? I typically balk at aftermarket
> anything when it come to the cooling system out here in hell. What do y’all
> think?
>
>
>
> And North Scottsdale MB just returned my call saying they have one I can
> come fetch for $329. “I can’t believe they are charging this much for a
> part on an old car. You think it’d be cheap cause they’s wanna git rid of
> it.” Dolt.
>
>
>
> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] Get the Eye Bleach....

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I'm sorry there is only one for sale, at only $198,000.00 it is such a
bargain you should have a matched pair [to impress the neighbors, you know].
[Sorry sports fans, I find the color "gag me ugly"]


On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 2:45 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Chartreuse?
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 4:19 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > A Vole and his Bunny are soon parted.
> > Fred
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:16 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> >
> > > I think that’s a factory color too but it might be a wrap
> > >
> > >
> > > --FT
> > > Sent from iFōn
> > >
> > > On Mar 5, 2024, at 11:45 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > This might take the cake:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1818644895242039/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > AZBob
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 1984 Mercedes Benz 300D

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Bisbee, Arizona... If you have ever been there, you will find that it does
not have a MENSA chapter... [if you can even find the city, don't blink, or
you will miss it entirely]
I own a 1982, same model, with "only" 102,000 one owner miles, that I would
be very happy to sell for 1/2 of what this fellow is asking.. ;))
Just as a comparative. At his asking price, he should list it on BAT.


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On Sun, Mar 3, 2024 at 10:01 AM Robert Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> This dude is relentless in his dream. It languishes on CL for several
> weeks, then he removes it for a couple days, then he reposts it for the
> exact same ask.
>
>
>
>
> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/d/bisbee-1984-mercedes-benz-300d/7723150660.html
>
> Sent from Mail  for
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>
>
> Now for half that ask, I’d be driving to Bisbee.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Sidewall Musings

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Dan,
This particular truck predates TPS systems, plus, I'm an old school kind of
guy when it comes to nanny type systems, I trust my own tire gauge and my
own eyeball reading of what I have.
Even though the Michelin tires on the truck are load range F and 10 ply
tires, [plus expensive] In talking with my Michelin supplier I found the
sidewalls are not as stiff as previous versions, thus, my efforts to find
what inflation pressure works best.
Good luck !


On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 6:41 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Thanks a bunch, Grant! This sounds exactly like how this car/SUV handles.
> It’s “twitchy”, especially at highway speeds, which is not fun.
>
> Guess I need to experiement with some different pressures. When you
> reduced your pressures were you outside the range of the TPS system?
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 1, 2024, at 10:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Inflation pressure?
> > Could it be that you are on the low end of inflation range instead of the
> > high end?
> > As an example, I have a 9,000 lb [empty weight] Ford dually king cab [4
> > doors] long bed diesel equipped with Michlens. Book says 70 PSI
> > inflation... However, at 70 PSI the truck has handling issues [feels not
> > glued to the road and easily wanders without constant attention.. I
> dialed
> > the pressure back to 60 PSI [all 6 tires] and it now feels like it is
> > running on rails. Good contact.
> > Played with the pressure again to find the low end of the curve, and at
> 45
> > PSI, the "road crawl" of the high pressure setting returned..
> > What you describe seems to be something similar to what I've had finding
> > the "inflation sweet spot" on this heavy truck. Another tool I used was a
> > laser temp gauge to read tire temps at various inflation pressures after
> > driving.. Low pressures brought elevated tire temps.
> > I hope this might help sort your issue.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 8:08 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It's a truck. I suspect that Porsche Cayennes don't handle like a
> >> Panamerica, although I haven't driven one.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >> 
> >> From: Mercedes  on behalf of dan
> penoff.com
> >> via Mercedes 
> >> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 7:47:43 PM
> >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
> >> Cc: dan penoff.com 
> >> Subject: [MBZ] Sidewall Musings
> >>
> >> I’ve noticed when I drive the ML550 (W164) aggressively, especially in
> >> turns, it seems unstable, like the sidewalls aren’t holding up well, or
> >> they’re breaking down and allowing the tire to “roll”.
> >>
> >> The car has stock Michelins on it, so they’re not cheap or low quality
> >> tires. I haven’t checked the date codes on them yet, but I will in the
> >> morning.
> >>
> >> I’m just wondering if what I’m experiencing is normal, and maybe just a
> >> center of gravity thing, as the CG is pretty high up on these things.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Sidewall Musings

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Inflation pressure?
Could it be that you are on the low end of inflation range instead of the
high end?
As an example, I have a 9,000 lb [empty weight] Ford dually king cab [4
doors] long bed diesel equipped with Michlens. Book says 70 PSI
inflation... However, at 70 PSI the truck has handling issues [feels not
glued to the road and easily wanders without constant attention.. I dialed
the pressure back to 60 PSI [all 6 tires] and it now feels like it is
running on rails. Good contact.
Played with the pressure again to find the low end of the curve, and at 45
PSI, the "road crawl" of the high pressure setting returned..
What you describe seems to be something similar to what I've had finding
the "inflation sweet spot" on this heavy truck. Another tool I used was a
laser temp gauge to read tire temps at various inflation pressures after
driving.. Low pressures brought elevated tire temps.
I hope this might help sort your issue.


On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 8:08 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> It's a truck. I suspect that Porsche Cayennes don't handle like a
> Panamerica, although I haven't driven one.
>
> Rick
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of dan penoff.com
> via Mercedes 
> Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 7:47:43 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
> Cc: dan penoff.com 
> Subject: [MBZ] Sidewall Musings
>
> I’ve noticed when I drive the ML550 (W164) aggressively, especially in
> turns, it seems unstable, like the sidewalls aren’t holding up well, or
> they’re breaking down and allowing the tire to “roll”.
>
> The car has stock Michelins on it, so they’re not cheap or low quality
> tires. I haven’t checked the date codes on them yet, but I will in the
> morning.
>
> I’m just wondering if what I’m experiencing is normal, and maybe just a
> center of gravity thing, as the CG is pretty high up on these things.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Car is slammed, FB translate is a bit wonky -- 2006 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 500 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $5, 500

[G Mann via Mercedes]

It is Facebook Marketplace, so the translation required is "Caveat Emptor"
..
Or, one of my favorite movie lines "What we have here is a failure to
communicate"...

On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 9:19 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> I can't quite make out what the listing means
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/260352730343020
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Re: [MBZ] Mille Miglia in 1955

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Since both are "unobtainium" by any measure... if you buy the "Mille
Migila for me.. I'll buy the Coupe for you, and we'll be friends for
life..  ;))
I'm drawn to cars of that era. Always have been.

On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 4:48 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Totally agree with all of these. That said, the realist in me lusts for
> that black coupe behind it.
>
> -D
>
> > On Feb 6, 2024, at 2:14 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Pure sex on wheels  From a time when men could build cars that had a
> > soul.. and could take yours if you failed to drive it very well.
> > A... those were the days...
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 6:21 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> >
> >> Stirling Moss drove this car in the Mille Miglia in 1955, completing
> 1000
> >> miles over public roads, through cities and small villages, in just a
> >> coupla minutes over 10 hours.  Probably the most outstanding
> achievement in
> >> motor racing ever.  69 years later it also remains one of the most
> >> beautiful cars ever.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Mille Miglia in 1955

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Pure sex on wheels  From a time when men could build cars that had a
soul.. and could take yours if you failed to drive it very well.
A... those were the days...

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> Stirling Moss drove this car in the Mille Miglia in 1955, completing 1000
> miles over public roads, through cities and small villages, in just a
> coupla minutes over 10 hours.  Probably the most outstanding achievement in
> motor racing ever.  69 years later it also remains one of the most
> beautiful cars ever.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze....

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Reporter asked Albert Einstein:
"Dr Einstein, can you tell us the difference between genius and ignorance?"
Einstein replied:
"There is no shortage of ignorance."

Eyp !

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 11:35 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> Of course Palo Alto California.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] TIG welding exhaust pieces.

[G Mann via Mercedes]

A good weld requires good [read that perfect] heat control at the weld
puddle. Old Miller rigs only used solid copper windings in the transformers
which resulted in good stable power supply at the weld point, whether it
was stick weld or tig weld, or mig weld.
New Miller welders no longer use the solid copper windings [trying to
compete with the cheap welder competition most likely] and thus do not
yield as stable an arc heat at weld point. [still better than the
"chineseium" competition IMHO but not like the older rigs].
Next on that list is "duty cycle" .. which translates to "how long can the
transformers hold a stable arc power supply before it starts to degrade?"
Again... older still remains better IF it has well built copper windings..
Next, enter coolant at the torch for TIG.. "Keep thy tungsten cool" is the
rule, for extended run time and extended duty cycle.
Next, enter pre and post argon lead and lag time, which keeps the weld
envelope protected from contamination. Let the argon flow over the fresh
weld as it cools to keep the hot weld puddle from reacting to what would be
around it without the shield gas protection.
Next, now that you have good equipment, is practice.. one trick I was
taught was with a blank sheet of paper with a line drawn across it, and a
lead pencil... The line represents your weld path.. the lead pencil
represents your weld torch. You then practice drawing uniform circles down
the entire line which represents the small hand movements while holding the
TIG torch and running a weld to make "dimes" ... If you want to practice
larger multi pass welds, draw two lines outside the center line, and "make
dimes between them" , for a 3 pass weld, or more.
Once you get the hand eye coordination skills, and truly know the machine
you are running.. you will be producing welds good enough to be proud of
them..
Good luck.. and practice, practice, practice..

On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 6:50 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> An old, circa 1990 Miller Syncrowave 250 with water cooler, CK size 20
> torch with 3/32 2% lanthanated tungsten electrode.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Feb 2, 2024, at 10:41 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 19:30:27 -0500 Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> TIG welding exhaust pipes is so much nicer than MIG welding. No
> >> grinding necessary! This is a section of front pipe for the 300D 2.5.
> >
> > What kind of equipment were you using?
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Dreamer -- 2022 Mercedes-Benz g-class G 550 Sport Utility 4D, $125, 000

[G Mann via Mercedes]

That sets a new record for "Buy my wreck that I can't get fixed".
[hidden frame damage anyone?]


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Re: [MBZ] While appreciate everyone’s opinions on how much I should sell my vehicle for, the Price is firm. Thanks.

[G Mann via Mercedes]

That's because you have a blown head gasket and your engine is cooked .
Engine compression is blowing into the cooling system which blows coolant
out. Classic symptoms of blown head gasket.
I will give you one dollar for your scrap car, if you deliver it to me, no
cost.
Otherwise, good luck.

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> Yeah good luck with that buddy.  Your engine is toast.
>
>
>   2013 Mercedes-Benz gl-class GL 550 4MATIC Sport Utility 4D
>
> $10,000
>
> Car starts, runs, drives great! Will sit running in the driveway all day
> with no issues but as soon as you drive it coolant gets pushed out of
> the expansion tank. I’ve replaced the expansion tank, cap, water pump,
> thermostat, and turbo cooling lines but none of it made a difference.
>
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Re: [MBZ] I need to buy this snd buff it up

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Harvest the tin worm population and put it up for sale on Facebook
marketplace. You should make a mint..
[sarcasm intended]

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> Then sell it for $90k
>
> https://www.facebook.com/share/7VjRjVtZF1bg33xj
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Want a Challenge?

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A tow truck and a Platinum Card, to get it through a dealership that will
fix it?

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:05 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> What sort of tool is required to start the car?
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:13 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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>
> > Could be fun for $500. You could get more than that for the wheels
> >
> > --FT
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> >
> > On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:07 PM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> >
> > 
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1443884066529442/
> >
> >
> >
> > Look how wet that car is. Is does rain here in AZ.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Black, Sticky, Impervious Something Something

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Well, technically, it is "inside the box" ... but thanks. :))

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 9:11 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> That’s out of the box thinking right there.
> My ‘04 350ML has what the operator’s manual likes to call “the safe” under
> the passenger seat.
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 21, 2024, at 8:56 AM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Since the offending sticky material refuses to be removed, why not
> simply
> > use it to glue in place a layer of the fabric of your choice, cut neatly
> to
> > fit each surface. Then, the box is lined with fabric of your choice and
> > color, not sticky and unuseable?  "Adapt and Overcome" the enemy.
> > Just a thought.
> >
> >> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 5:07 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Pretty sure mine has it (W163) as I recall buying a new latch or lock
> for
> >> it. Again, I’ll check next time I’m there.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Jan 21, 2024, at 12:20 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think the 2001 163 I had did have the storage door under the front
> >> passenger seat and it locked with the key.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Saturday, January 20th, 2024 at 9:11 PM, Buggered Benzmail via
> >> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Would be interesting if it does. 164s have the little bin
> >>>>
> >>>> --FT
> >>>> Sent from iFōn
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Jan 20, 2024, at 9:57 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pretty sure mine has one. I’ll check.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -D
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jan 20, 2024, at 9:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No storage drawers on that car. Don’t think that was a feature on
> 163s
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --FT
> >>>>>> Sent from iFōn
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2024, at 3:07 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Picture?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I’m confused. Are you talking about the lining of the storage
> drawer
> >> under the front passenger seat? If so, that is the lining, which is a
> nasty
> >> rubbery concoction that is near impossible to remove and almost
> impervious
> >> to everything, except maybe acetone.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -D (puzzled)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2024, at 3:00 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Did the steam cleaning if the interior of the 350ML today. Worked
> >> well, looks great with one exception: the plastic trim beneath the
> >> passenger seat has a black, sticky residue on it. It is very evenly
> spread
> >> all over it. You can’t see it on there but when you try to wipe it off
> your
> >> cloth straight up sticks to it and then turns your cloth black when you
> >> pull it off.
> >>>>>>>> Steam did not work. Simple Green, scrubbing then steam did
> nothing.
> >> Good Gone did nothing.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ideas?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] Black, Sticky, Impervious Something Something

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Since the offending sticky material refuses to be removed, why not simply
use it to glue in place a layer of the fabric of your choice, cut neatly to
fit each surface. Then, the box is lined with fabric of your choice and
color, not sticky and unuseable?  "Adapt and Overcome" the enemy.
Just a thought.

On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 5:07 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Pretty sure mine has it (W163) as I recall buying a new latch or lock for
> it. Again, I’ll check next time I’m there.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 21, 2024, at 12:20 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think the 2001 163 I had did have the storage door under the front
> passenger seat and it locked with the key.
> >
> >
> >> On Saturday, January 20th, 2024 at 9:11 PM, Buggered Benzmail via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Would be interesting if it does. 164s have the little bin
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iFōn
> >>
>  On Jan 20, 2024, at 9:57 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Pretty sure mine has one. I’ll check.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On Jan 20, 2024, at 9:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> 
>  No storage drawers on that car. Don’t think that was a feature on 163s
> 
>  --FT
>  Sent from iFōn
> 
> >> On Jan 20, 2024, at 3:07 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> >
> > Picture?
> >
> > I’m confused. Are you talking about the lining of the storage drawer
> under the front passenger seat? If so, that is the lining, which is a nasty
> rubbery concoction that is near impossible to remove and almost impervious
> to everything, except maybe acetone.
> >
> > -D (puzzled)
> >
> >>> On Jan 20, 2024, at 3:00 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Did the steam cleaning if the interior of the 350ML today. Worked
> well, looks great with one exception: the plastic trim beneath the
> passenger seat has a black, sticky residue on it. It is very evenly spread
> all over it. You can’t see it on there but when you try to wipe it off your
> cloth straight up sticks to it and then turns your cloth black when you
> pull it off.
> >> Steam did not work. Simple Green, scrubbing then steam did nothing.
> Good Gone did nothing.
> >>
> >> Ideas?
> >>
> >> AZBob
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I have been using Groit's Leather 3 in 1 product with some success. I have
a Ford F350 with the King Ranch full leather interior, and with Arizona
heat and sun, the leather takes a harsh beating, so it needs regular
treatment.
The Groit's product seems to work, but with Arizona sun, the leather gets
baked quickly, so regular treatment is required.
There may be better products, Groit's is available at local FLAPS, so my
choice [for now].

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 10:24 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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>
> https://www.amazon.com/Leatherique-Leather-Rejuvenator-Prestine-Clean/dp/B072JR77H1/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?adgrpid=51514146650&hvadid=580737944631&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9023168&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=9268194315777062363&hvtargid=kwd-13487106&hydadcr=19014_13382990&keywords=leatherique&qid=1705598615&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRm&psc=1
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> > On Jan 18, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Is Leatherique still around? That was always what I saw mentioned on
> the list years back.
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 11:22, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> >> The seats in my W163 could use some love. They are by no means dry but
> >> they are not supple either. What’s the stuff smart guys use these days
> >> for returning leather to its original awesomeness?
> >> I’m guessing there is something for cleaning then something else for
> >> conditioning?
> >>
> >> Replaced the antenna cover  yesterday while my landlord’s “guys” were
> >> replacing the sewer lateral out to the street. They hope to be done
> >> today. We’ve been displaced for three days thanks to them ripping out
> >> the water service as they began digging (thanks to the water company
> >> not sending out someone to blue stake it, and the guys got impatient).
> >>
> >> I have assembled all of my paint correction supplies and tools, I have
> >> my new steam machine staged and ready and as soon as they install a new
> >> waterline, I’m ready to get busy and go full-Martha on that thing.
> >>
> >> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] $99 for a Pagoda? Yes, Please.

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The $99 price is simply a place holder price while the BAT bidding ramps
up... $99 won't buy it... if it would, I would be on it like a hobo on a
hotdog.
Unfortunately, the facebook marketplace listing does not give a link to the
BAT listing so we can track what it sells for or how long the bidding will
last.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 9:13 AM Robert Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3516591941936727/
>
>
>
> Nothing scammy about this. On BaT it is in Cali, FBMarketplatz says it’s
> in Snottsdale.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] I lost the key on my motorcycle. That’s why it so cheap. 2006 Mercedes-Benz cls-class CLS 500 Coupe 4D,$1,500

[G Mann via Mercedes]

"I lost the key to my motorcycle on the way to my regional MENSA meeting."
[There, I fixed it for him. Part of the Facebook Marketplace help services
team.]
No charge for the sarcasm..

On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 7:39 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> That and being all tore up.  A key would not be difficult to make.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/697029292521492
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Re: [MBZ] Who doesn't like a good light show?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I submit. Nearly every state now has laws that make it a criminal act to
talk on a cell phone while driving, because , in legal principle such acts
cause "distracted driving" and thus place the highway public at grave risk
of injury.
Someone explain in simple terms how such EV displays, which take the
drivers attention off the road, do NOT present "Distracted Driving" and
place others at grave risk of injury?
Where are the ambulance chasing lawyers we all complain about in all this?
Surely there must be a bazillion $$ lawsuit and settlement laying ready to
pluck... [class action suit, anyone]...


On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 8:06 AM mitch--- via Mercedes 
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> Yuck.
>
> https://archive.is/YXbNL
>
> The Mercedes EQS SUV offers a symphony of interior lighting that pulses
> when the accelerator is pressed. - Photo Courtesy of Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] W163 Hood Adjustment

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First, spray all the hinge points with a good penetrating lube. Then
exercise the hood up and down to work the penetrant into the hinge joints.
I had the hood on one of my 82 300D's get wonky [after setting for months]
and I opened the hood, then when I closed it, the hinge on one side didn't
work smoothly,, caused that side to not close and fit.
Could be, you're having the same issue... ??

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 9:36 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 14:38:32 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > My ML350’s hood is slightly wonky.
> >
> > Passenger is SAT. Is there an adjustment, like on W123s, to correct
> > this?
>
> Every Mercedes I have seen (I have not seen an ML350) has a means to
> align the hood to the rest of the vehicle.
>
> I would look at where the hinges attach to the hood and to the body.
>
> I would try loosening the hinge attachments to the hood on the wonky side
> and pulling on the hood to see if it moves.
>
> You show the alignment of the hood to the fenders at the front.
>
> What does the alignment of the hood to the air intake/windshield wiper
> sheet metal at the rear of the hood look like?
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Two viable options:
Drill out the broken bolts, then increase the drill size [if you have a
number drill set slip up on it one drill size at a time until the outer
flange of the rivnut cuts off the internal compressed body, which should
leave you with a clean hole in the sheet metal, minimal paint damage.
Then, replace the seized / broken bolt rivnut with a new one. [have a look
at Temu.. search "rivnut tool" and "rivnuts" for a cheap tool that works
well.
Or..
Go to local FLAPS and pick up 4 nylon license plate inserts , pop them in
place, put new license plate screws in and never deal with rusted / broken
license plate bolts again.. [should cost less than $5 for the set].
The nylon inserts are hidden behind the license plate, so no one will ever
know until you tell them..

On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 3:37 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> If they are rivet nuts, you'll have to chisel the outside lip so that it
> can be pushed through. Get some touch up paint to clean up any damage and
> pop in new ones with this tool.
>
> https://hftools.com/app58078
>
> Oh and remove the hatch panel to retrieve the old ones when the rattling
> gets to you.
>
> Or, just use two bolts and call it good.
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: January 7, 2024 2:08 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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> Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
> Subject: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR
>
> Two of the four license plate fasteners on my ML350 have the bolts broken
> off in them. Not sure I can get them out with an easy out thing. And one of
> them is pretty buggered up and I doubt that a new bolt could go in there
> even if I get this broken one out.
> Is it possible to get in there and just replace everything?
>
> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] This was not used in a crime of any sort, it was being tested for gun shots 1992 Mercedes-Benz 600 sel Sedan 4D, $3, 400

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Buy it, leave it like it is,, only drive it to cars and coffee... wear a
gansta~ suit... ... you'll be the only one with a car like it..

On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 10:38 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> BULLETPROOF WINDOWS!!! I guess for parts if you need a M120 (if it
> wasn't "tested" too) but not for $3400
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/391831119873045
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Re: [MBZ] I'm liking this -- 1980 Mercedes-Benz truck,$3,500

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"Ran when parked" 35 years ago..
Excellent patina, it should "buff right out".. ;))

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Re: [MBZ] Shady deal! -- the title has been lost reason i am selling low 2008 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 550 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $3, 800

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If there is a title loan held by payday loan type folks, that puts them in
legal first position. If you pay his ask and take possession of the car,
the title loan folks come to you to repossess it, and you have zero legal
standing without their lien release of title.. If you try to process a bill
of sale / lost title.. the state title / DMV will refuse to issue a title
to you.  Check twice, pay once or...Caveat Emptor.

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> Reef Osama probably has an outstanding payday loan and can't get the
> title back
>
> but this is still a great deal i could go lower on price 3,800 OBO first
> come first served.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Whirlybird!!! -- 1962 Bell Helicopter 47-g3b1, $245, 000

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I would like to go on record with the posit that there is no "fun way to
kill yourself"...
My fun bucket list only involves avoiding and surviving any and all near
death experiences.

On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 11:04 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> I wouldn’t think so until Grant took the lift out of the autorotation idea…
>
> I’m not sure I would have the coordination to do the foot pedals and
> twisty stick at the same time. I guess it’s no different than yoke and
> rudder…
>
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>
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> > This is way cool.  Might be a fun way to kill onesself
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Another fine German product -- 1973 Volkswagen thing baja, $5, 500

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Smart wife.
It rides like a brick with spikes point up in the seats, it has no AC, it
is so noisy you need grade 5 hearing protection, and when you take the ear
muffs off, the sound of the tin worms chewing at the body overwhelms you..
But, what could possibly go wrong.. other than it has nearly zero off road
capability, by modern standards.
Great sell... bad buy.. Good luck..

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> Relisting because of a buyer who forgot to ask his mommy-wife if he can
> buy it.
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Re: [MBZ] OT (maybe) The future....

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Your new car is now "Bricked" .. however, you still must make the $3,000
payment and keep the $2,000 per month insurance coverage.
A. for the good old days when electrical nannies only lived at Lucas...

On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 3:41 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] OT I dropped acid then ordered this -- 2020 Rolls-Royce cullinan, $259, 995

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Before I bid on it, does the lifetime prescription for heavy anti-nausea
medications that was part of Rolls Royce sale fulfillment contract carry
forward as part of the factory lifetime warranty?

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> I can't believe RR actually built this abomination
>
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. All Right....Who on FB is Going to Pony Up for This?

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:Pocket change.. if you run a drug cartel and have rooms full of $100 bills.


On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 4:11 PM Robert Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2157110364626759/
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> This cracks me up.
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Re: [MBZ] No one giving it any love -- GREAT RESTORATION CAR.. Barn find 1965 Mercedes 220S Sedan, $1, 750

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Gastly ... $1,700 + shipping for a rolling [presumed rolling] stack of
tinworm seed stock
Pass... the sound you hear is of me running away... as fast as I can.
[Taking bets you could push your finger through the floor pans.]

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> Restoration costs in high 5 figures then it would be worth $6k
>
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Re: [MBZ] I think I might get these for Okie acres

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I didn't realize you had your own oil well to feed one of those thirsty
monsters, just to make coffee in the morning...
16V120 Detroit... 16 cylinder, V configuration, 120 cubic inch displacement
per cylinder, I think.. 1920 cubic inch displacement total, by my guess on
bore size.
Hand cranking allowed.

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Re: [MBZ] OT would this be a good way to kill myself? Subaru Engine gyrocopter, $10, 000

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In principle, an autogyro is always in auto rotation. Like any flying
machine,, if you get behind the curve on altitude, airspeed or landing
place, or control, impact is predicted and injury box is pre-selected.
So.. caveat emptor..

On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 11:12 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> What, you mean he can’t autorotate when the engine fails?
>
> 
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 16, 2023, at 1:02 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
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> >
> > After more than 50 years of being a pilot there is no good way to kill
> > yoursef.. however if flight history of gyrocopters is valid.. it is an
> > effective way to do great harm to yourself, before you die of injuries.
> > If you buy it, then fly it.. It's been nice knowing you.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT would this be a good way to kill myself? Subaru Engine gyrocopter, $10, 000

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After more than 50 years of being a pilot there is no good way to kill
yoursef.. however if flight history of gyrocopters is valid.. it is an
effective way to do great harm to yourself, before you die of injuries.
If you buy it, then fly it.. It's been nice knowing you.

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. This Will Keep You Busy, Swen.

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Volvo B18 turbo was a rare add feature, available from factory special
order in the 1978 era.
Since the engine is high compression [by turbo standards] the total boost
it is allowed to make is limited to keep things like head gaskets and
pistons from self destruction. Thus, available only as a "total kit".
I have one. New, never installed, complete. Bought it to install on the 220
GT Volvo [quite rare model] that I've started to restore, but put under
wraps and pushed to the end of the list. One owner car, perfect body, yada
yada.. owned in AZ and NV , Zero rust, etc..
There you have it.

On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 10:59 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Tell me more about this turbo setup.  My buddy Todd just bought some
> sort of Volvo similar to that and is fixing it up
>
> --FT
>
> On 11/26/23 12:28 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > Just happen to have a complete factory turbo set, intake and exhaust
> > manifold, with turbo and all attachments, on the shelf that fits that
> > engine
> > That car has been sitting unloved and outside for way too long in AZ. the
> > interior is kacked. floor pans, rockers.. engine... you would be looking
> at
> > a major rebuild effort.. Still, something of a rare model..
> > If you have the shop floor space to take it on.
> >
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> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1127824331513928/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Haven’t seen one of these lately.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> AZBob
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. This Will Keep You Busy, Swen.

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Just happen to have a complete factory turbo set, intake and exhaust
manifold, with turbo and all attachments, on the shelf that fits that
engine
That car has been sitting unloved and outside for way too long in AZ. the
interior is kacked. floor pans, rockers.. engine... you would be looking at
a major rebuild effort.. Still, something of a rare model..
If you have the shop floor space to take it on.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Medicare Questions

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Welcome to Medicare.
It is a total system devised to be so complicated that no individual can
truly understand it, under the color of law, not the principles, and voted
on by elected persons who were elected using funds and influence owned by
huge mega rich pharma companies who have armies of lawyers to write
deliberately confusing rules and wrinkles, then defend any actions they
take, while you, the aged individual with limited resources to fight them
are kept helpless to oppose any decision they make, or action they take.
200 years ago, their business ancestors built and sold a device that pumped
tobacco smoke up the patient's anus and claimed massive curative powers,
while charging massive money [the basis for the common phrase "blowing
smoke up your ass"]. When it was finally proven that it produced no health
improvement, they dissolved that company and practice and produced a new
"miracle cure" to sell to the public.  Repeat that pattern to present day,
just make it more involved and expensive [and less obvious].
They exist only to take your money and extend your life until all money is
gone, while double dipping from public money, wherever possible.
You exist only to try to live as long and as well as you can, against all
odds and obstacles if possible.
Is it a fair game? You decide..
Semi Sarcastic Rant over.


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> For those of you out there who do have prescriptions and are using Part D,
> are there any pitfalls to avoid?
>
> I’m lucky in that my mother-in-law, who is 85 going on 86, has been doing
> this for a while, so she’s been helpful with navigating things. We will
> have prescriptions, that I am sure of, so Part D may not be optional for us.
>
> I would be curious to know how people are navigating the world of
> pharmaceuticals/prescription drugs and what’s necessary to avoid getting
> gouged.
>
> -D
>
> > On Nov 25, 2023, at 8:54 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I forgot to add that if you don't enroll in part D initially, you have
> ta pay a penalty for every year you didn't have it if you try to get it
> later - totally a money grab by the insurance industry. There is no
> government part D, it's all individual insurance companies - you have to
> find the plan that gives you the lowest prices on the drugs you take, and
> not all drugs are covered by any one plan. Worthless system.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, November 25th, 2023 at 7:47 PM, MB list etc via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> We are on Medicare also - and have a supplemental plan that covers
> everything that Medicare doesn't. We don't have part D (drugs) because we
> had no prescriptions at the time. My wife as had a few since then, and does
> have one now, but the part D premium is far more than the cost of the
> prescription.
> >> From my perspective, part D was written by the pharmaceutical companies
> for them, not us. Total ripoff. Same with the "Advantage" programs - they
> are an advantage for the insurance companies, not you. They were a response
> to pressure from the insurance industry to let them in on geezer
> demographic. Follow the $$$.
> >>
> >> Functionally, our Medicare parts A & B plus the supplement are
> providing the best health insurance experience we've ever had at a lower
> cost. I was worried before retiring, but am now a firm believer in single
> payer none profit run health insurance. Everything else is a ripoff.
> >> Off the soapbox now, back to your regular programming.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] I didn't bother with masking paper -- 1984 Mercedes-Benz 380 sl, $2, 000

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Something is making metal to metal contact, relative to engine speed, so it
is a moving internal part, and sounds deadly, engine life wise.
Timing chain? or is this year not in that era?
In any case, trailer it to wherever you work on it.. and look for metal in
the oil and filter, whatever you find as the problem won't be good, or
cheap, and most likely it won't be just one little thing.. it will have
taken damage to multiple internal systems with a hammer noise like that.

On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 10:45 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> needs engine work is all, Everything else is great. It’s either a miss,
> stuck lifter, or needs timing adjustment…
>
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Re: [MBZ] Kaboom

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My brother had that happen while driving in traffic. Suspension collapsed
to the point it ruined the front tire and steering was a real challenge [in
traffic].. Result, stuck in traffic, at side of road, 900 miles from home.
Tow bill, rental car to get home, shop charges to get fixed [over $3,000 ]
plus a rental while it was being fixed, plus flight to get car and drive it
home, etc etc.. all because an air bag decided to fail.
Brother is no longer a happy Merc owner.

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> On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 10:54:52 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
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> > ... until the air shock blew.
> >
> > it is a bit shocking.
>
> No pun intended, I presume ...
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Re: [MBZ] Oil cooler job done on the 642

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https://www.zoro.com/superclean-cleanerdegreaser-water-based-parts-washer-jug-1-gal-ready-to-use-nonflammable-citrus-101723/i/G3755692/
?

On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 11:28 PM G Mann  wrote:

> Try spraying the area down with some stuff called "Super Clean Foaming"...
> should be able to find it at your local FLAPS. Spray it on, hose it off,
> pressure washer, or steam..
> I've found it works the best of anything to date... available in squirt
> bottle 32 oz size, or in gallon jugs , [can be diluted with water] and
> applied with a garden sprayer to cover larger surfaces..
>
> I would suggest you elevate the car on the lift, lay down heavy plastic
> sheet, with something like sand bags to bolster and contain pressure spray,
> with a path out the door, then foam the underside with Super Clean,
> pressure wash , wash the plastic out the door, repeat as needed to get
> finally clean..
> [Rain suit, with hood, full face shield, etc.. suggested]
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:13 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Strong work 💪
>> Proud of you for getting it done!
>>
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: November 22, 2023 4:32 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>> Subject: [MBZ] Oil cooler job done on the 642
>>
>> Completed it over the course of about 3 weekends. Spent 2-3 hours taking
>> it apart bagging up the hundreds of bolts in separate bags per section of
>> the job. Spend the whole next day, followed by the next weekend cleaning up
>> the top of the engine, in the valley, cleaning out the valve ports, and the
>> manifolds. This past weekend I probably spend 5 hours reassembling on
>> Saturday and another 4 hours Sunday. Car is back together and appears leak
>> free as far as I can tell so far. I appear to have a bad back pressure
>> sensor and I apparently didn’t get the intake air temp sensor clicked back
>> in as it blew out and broke it on the test drive. Put in a parts order to
>> start the same job on the GL next week.
>>
>> Currently I have the car up in the lift checking for leaks and the
>> underside is horribly grimy from all the oil. With it on the lift I’m
>> thinking about putting down drip trays, soaking it with engine degreaser,
>> followed by blasting it off with steam cleaner, then maybe red brake
>> cleaner followed by more steam.  Anybody have any better ideas?
>>
>> Btw the HF steam cleaner is on sale for $89 currently.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Oil cooler job done on the 642

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Try spraying the area down with some stuff called "Super Clean Foaming"...
should be able to find it at your local FLAPS. Spray it on, hose it off,
pressure washer, or steam..
I've found it works the best of anything to date... available in squirt
bottle 32 oz size, or in gallon jugs , [can be diluted with water] and
applied with a garden sprayer to cover larger surfaces..

I would suggest you elevate the car on the lift, lay down heavy plastic
sheet, with something like sand bags to bolster and contain pressure spray,
with a path out the door, then foam the underside with Super Clean,
pressure wash , wash the plastic out the door, repeat as needed to get
finally clean..
[Rain suit, with hood, full face shield, etc.. suggested]

On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:13 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Strong work 💪
> Proud of you for getting it done!
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: November 22, 2023 4:32 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
> Subject: [MBZ] Oil cooler job done on the 642
>
> Completed it over the course of about 3 weekends. Spent 2-3 hours taking
> it apart bagging up the hundreds of bolts in separate bags per section of
> the job. Spend the whole next day, followed by the next weekend cleaning up
> the top of the engine, in the valley, cleaning out the valve ports, and the
> manifolds. This past weekend I probably spend 5 hours reassembling on
> Saturday and another 4 hours Sunday. Car is back together and appears leak
> free as far as I can tell so far. I appear to have a bad back pressure
> sensor and I apparently didn’t get the intake air temp sensor clicked back
> in as it blew out and broke it on the test drive. Put in a parts order to
> start the same job on the GL next week.
>
> Currently I have the car up in the lift checking for leaks and the
> underside is horribly grimy from all the oil. With it on the lift I’m
> thinking about putting down drip trays, soaking it with engine degreaser,
> followed by blasting it off with steam cleaner, then maybe red brake
> cleaner followed by more steam.  Anybody have any better ideas?
>
> Btw the HF steam cleaner is on sale for $89 currently.
>
> [cid:f479a59a-774d-4ff4-b98b-9e3a057c90c8@namprd11.prod.outlook.com]
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Re: [MBZ] Shop air lines

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Regardless of pipe size, ALWAYS install a shut off ball valve inline coming
OUT of the compressor tank, and ALWAYS close that valve, along with opening
the main off switch to your compressor.
Every time you leave the shop for longer than to take lunch.
Air leak = air compressor running = continuous running = compressor failure
or motor overheat = shop fire or great expense.
Plus, being able to close pressure to all airlines lets you repair or
reconfigure at any time desired.

On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> I am getting ready to install air lines in the shop.  Tired of having
> hoses strung all over the place.  Probably going to get a couple of
> those flex tubing kits.  I will be running up to 3/4" inpact, my tire
> machine, tire air hoses etc.  My initial thought it I will have at least
> 4 outlets at different points to hook impacts or what not up to.  I will
> then need connections overhead for the lock releases on one of the
> lifts, connection to the tire machine, and I also have a big retractable
> hose reel that I will either mount overhead somewhere, or perhaps along
> the wall somewhere, not sure yet. I do not really see a scenario where
> more than one air item would be used at once since its just me.
>
> Is 1/2" line fine or should it be bumped up to 3/4"?  The 1/2" appears
> to be quite a bit cheaper.  All of the fittings to any tools or
> equipment are just those standard 1/4" connectors.
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Re: [MBZ] Was abandoned with me. 2008 Mercedes-Benz m-class, $4, 200 2008 Mercedes ml320 CDI 4matic

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Clear Title
Otherwise, it's a can of worms at any price... since it was abandoned too
the seller, title question necessary..

On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 6:38 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> This looks good, price is not crazy, has tow hitch, 94kmi
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/660368042908251/
>
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Re: [MBZ] Thinking about buying this

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Go for it.. you only live once, might as well "live large" with a private
jet..
Presently, there is a worldwide shortage of qualified pilots, so expect to
pay a premium to retain a chief pilot and co-pilot, with a backup reserve
flight crew. If you decide to indeed move into that level of upgrade, let
me know, I have contacts that you might find helpful for flight crew. .
In one of my past lives, I worked as a customer service engineer for the
company that built the TFE731-5 engines that aircraft has, I know it very
well. Excellent engines.
As with anything in aviation.. "Come to the airport, bring money".
Fuel capacity: 10,000 lbs of JP54 [Jet A]
Fuel burn per hour: 2,000 lbs per hour [working average at cruise power]
Current JP54 price per gallon:
 https://www.iata.org/en/publications/economics/fuel-monitor/
[Just to give you a taste of the sort of ding your Amex card with get at
the pump]
"Enjoy !!]

On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 7:09 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> You’ll have to hire a pilot or two and pay for hanger and ramp rent
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Nov 21, 2023, at 8:09 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > 📸 Look at this post on Facebook
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Re: [MBZ] Do Harbor Freight floor jacks

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Like you, I have accumulated several harbor freight jacks [and others] that
are either leaking down when loaded, or fail to pump up.. all need
resealed..
After seeing your post, I was finally stimulated to do a you tube search
for video of rebuilding such jacks.. there are several videos, teardown is
quite simple, it seems the magic trick is knowing the size of the shaft and
sleeve the needed O'Ring or seal is, or the model number/brand of the
jack...
Looks like complete re-seal kits run in the $15 or less range, and it's a
"simple job" to get to them.
So... something else to add to my "must do work list" since new jacks are
now into the $200 range [or more].
Thanks? hahaha..

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 11:36 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> Last more than 2yr before the seals go bad?  I’ve got 2 now that have
> crapped out and the newest one just now in the middle of changing air bags
> on the GL. I guess it’s off to get yet another one since I don’t have time
> to mess with these I have.
>
> What a PITA
>
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Words fail me -- 2009 Mercedes-Benz cls-class Custom /bespoke AF, $7, 777

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Obviously only driven to church on Sunday and Wednesday night prayer
meetings & the over 60 quilting club... never raced or rode hard and put
away wet..


On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 8:55 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Custom AF The vehicle is RIDICULOUSY ANGRY & not for amateur drivers, He
> Runs Awesome- Will need coilovers to drive / currently running
> Street/Drift/Strip style air ride delete-
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/853497143163878
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