Re: [MBZ] coil spring compressors

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Hi Jim,  yes I have done that on a w123,  the way you are describing.
The angle of removal and installation on the w124 does not lend it self to 
doing the replacement.  Pelican parts has a illustrated step by step for the 
replacement.  Short of removing the complete rear suspension it would be 
advisable to use a spring compressor.  Also less than a hour needed to replace 
a spring using a spring compressor.  There seems to be guite a few "knock off" 
spring
Compressors on the market. Are any of them decent or are they junk? Ron

From: Jim Cathey 
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2023 2:30 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Ronald Courcy 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] coil spring compressors

I'm not sure about W124, but I replaced the rear springs in a W123 using
nothing more than a floor jack, jack stands and the weight of the car.

Front springs is an entirely different proposition.

-- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] coil spring compressors

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Does anyone have recomendations with regards to coil spring compressors?
I see prices ranging from $60 to in excess of a thousand dollars.  At the 
moment I want to replace rear coil springs on a w124 due to excessive camber 
resulting from weak springs.
Any "brands" that should be avoided?
Are there any suitable ones available to rent at Advance,Autozone, O 'reiley?
Thanks  Ron Courcy



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Re: [MBZ] Dimitri ps fluid

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Dimitri.,   I have used atf for power steering fluid, on a 87 and on a 92 w124
The 92 was leaking badly , the leaking stopped while I was waiting for the 
proper fluid to arrive. I am leary about putting the correct fluid in.

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   2. Re: Spotted locally (dan penoff.com)
   3. Re: Spotted locally (Kaleb Striplin)
   4. ATF in w124 ps pump? (Dimitri Seretakis)
   5. Re: Spotted locally (Randy Bennell)
   6. Re: ATF in w124 ps pump? (Curt Raymond)
   7. Re: ATF in w124 ps pump? (Dimitri Seretakis)
   8. Re: Happy Birthday AZBob! (Bob Rentfro)
   9. Re: ATF in w124 ps pump? (Curt Raymond)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 15:16:02 + (UTC)
From: Curt Raymond 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] Spotted locally
Message-ID: <2132741421.959000.1676301362...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Driving home yesterday I spotted this stately gentleman:
https://townlinemotors.com/vdp/19468748/Used-1973-MercedesBenz-220-for-sale-in-Orange-MA-01364

It looked good as we drove by, didn't stop to check in any closer. Price seems 
high but if the mileage were real...

-Curt



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 15:20:59 +
From: dan penoff.com 
To: Okie Benz 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotted locally
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Pretty optimistic for a W114, even with the miles.

If that had AC AZ Bob would be on it like a hobo on a hotdog as he says. Could 
be a good birthday present, though!

-D

> On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:16 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> Driving home yesterday I spotted this stately gentleman:
> https://townlinemotors.com/vdp/19468748/Used-1973-MercedesBenz-220-for-sale-in-Orange-MA-01364
>
> It looked good as we drove by, didn't stop to check in any closer. Price 
> seems high but if the mileage were real...
>
> -Curt
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 09:24:33 -0600
From: Kaleb Striplin 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotted locally
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Holy crack

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2023, at 9:16 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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>
> ?Driving home yesterday I spotted this stately gentleman:
> https://townlinemotors.com/vdp/19468748/Used-1973-MercedesBenz-220-for-sale-in-Orange-MA-01364
>
> It looked good as we drove by, didn't stop to check in any closer. Price 
> seems high but if the mileage were real...
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 10:31:21 -0500
From: Dimitri Seretakis 
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Subject: [MBZ] ATF in w124 ps pump?
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Can I  use Dexron/Mercon ATF in a W124 ps pump? Ideally I?d like to use the MB 
stuff but the reservoir is completely empty and I don?t want to drive to an MB 
dealer like that.

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 10:01:47 -0600
From: Randy Bennell 
To: Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotted locally
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On 13/02/2023 9:16 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Driving home yesterday I spotted this stately gentleman:
> https://townlinemotors.com/vdp/19468748/Used-1973-MercedesBenz-220-for-sale-in-Orange-MA-01364
>
> It looked good as we drove by, didn't stop to check in any closer. Price 
> seems high but if the mileage were real...
>
> -Curt
>
> ___
>

You have to wonder why someone would buy something like that and
essentially 

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 203, Issue 44

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Re: split system for Dan
What are the efficency rattings?
Mini splits can vary greatly with
Rattings. Also with brand names.

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   3. 2003 E320 - 167k miles - $1,800 (Allan Streib)
   4. OT - Mini-splits (dan penoff.com)
   5. Re: OT - Mini-splits (Craig)
   6. Re: OT - Mini-splits (Rick Knoble)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 00:35:01 -0400
From: Andrew Strasfogel 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] car was flooded and engine locked up 2005
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Very sad.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 3:15 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> and I don't have insurance
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1148604839101520
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Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:58:55 -0500
From: "Allan Streib" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: [MBZ] 2004 E55 - 192k miles - $9,500
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Quite a list of "upgrades"

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/maineville-2004-mercedes-benz-amg-e55/7545454401.html


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 09:02:24 -0500
From: "Allan Streib" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: [MBZ] 2003 E320 - 167k miles - $1,800
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Looks like it needs a bit of work. Extra "1" in the price.

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-2003-mercedes-e320/7545353211.html


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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 19:56:09 +
From: dan penoff.com 
To: "mercedes@okiebenz.com" 
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits
Message-ID: <4589a24c-ea23-4c92-b1ee-c676273c3...@penoff.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Just for grins I clicked on a link for ?MRCOOL DIY? mini-splits yesterday, and 
after going to their website got directed to a number of different retailers, 
one of which was Costco. I was just doing some research on a possible 
mini-split for the Flagstaff garage, which I was thinking might be a 240V 
12,000 BTU unit or thereabouts.

https://mrcooldiy.com

The Costco price (members only) was significantly lower than all the other 
retailers who offered the same product (Amazon, Lowe?s). Costco wanted $1,450 
for a 12k BTU 120V system, Amazon $1,738, and Lowe?s $1,738.

This brand looks pretty good and has a lot of positive reviews. They?re 
designed specifically for DIY installation. I?m not quite ready to pull the 
trigger on one, but good to know there is an option directed at DIY 
installation that?s reasonably priced.

-D

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 15:38:55 -0600
From: Craig 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini-splits
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2022 19:56:09 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Just for grins I clicked on a link for ?MRCOOL DIY? mini-splits
> yesterday, and after going to their website got directed to a number of
> different retailers, one of which was Costco. I was just doing some
> research on a possible mini-split for the Flagstaff garage, which I was
> thinking might be a 240V 12,000 BTU unit or thereabouts.
>
> https://mrcooldiy.com
>
> The Costco price (members only) was significantly lower than all the
> other retailers who offered the same product (Amazon, Lowe?s). Costco
> wanted $1,450 for a 12k BTU 120V system, Amazon $1,738, and Lowe?s
> $1,738.

Since the website says,

4th Gen DIY  12000 BTU

Cool / Heat up to 500 sqft.

Easy DIY 

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 200, Issue 119

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Mobil one rebates
Walmart is not a participating merchant

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   3. OT: TDI Eurovan 5-speed - 112k miles - $19,500 (Allan Streib)
   4. Re: OT: TDI Eurovan 5-speed - 112k miles - $19,500
  (mi...@mitchellhaley.com)
   5. I'm Going To (Rick Knoble)
   6. Re: I'm Going To (Buggered Benzmail)
   7. Re: I'm Going To (dan penoff.com)
   8. Re: I'm Going To (Rick Knoble)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 09:45:12 -0400
From: Floyd Thursby 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] Merz Car - $4, 200 (Valdese NC 28690) 1997 mercedes
benz s420
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Meth head.? E420.

https://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/d/rutherford-college-merz-car/7511047497.html

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 11:45:03 -0400
From: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Mobil One Rebate
Message-ID: <339aca9859e2391969453fdf723ed...@mitchellhaley.com>
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https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/promotions/mobil1rebate2022


Since the extended performance is $26.XX and the Advanced Fuel Economy
is $24 the end cost is the same after the rebate.

Order 2 jugs of the extended performance for $26.XX each.  Total is
about $52.XX plus tax.  Choose curbside pickup at your local wallyworld.

Use code WOWFRESH which is $10 off of a $50 order.  Not sure what all it
works on, but I was able to use it on two jugs of Mobil1.  That gets the
price for 2 jugs to $42ish plus tax.

Then submit the two rebates, get $20 back.

Or, buy a $40 oil change bundle at AAP, get $15 back, get the $8 rebate
from Mobil, and the deal includes an oil filter (not Mann)
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/projects/oil-change



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 12:38:51 -0400
From: "Allan Streib" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: [MBZ] OT: TDI Eurovan 5-speed - 112k miles - $19,500
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Never seen a Eurovan with a manual (I'm not sure if I've ever seen one with a 
diesel either). I wonder if it's some sort of grey market car.

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/grove-city-diesel-turbo-tdi-vanagon/7511156241.html



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 12:55:30 -0400
From: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: TDI Eurovan 5-speed - 112k miles - $19,500
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On 2022-07-20 12:38, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> Never seen a Eurovan with a manual (I'm not sure if I've ever seen one
> with a diesel either). I wonder if it's some sort of grey market car.
>
> https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/grove-city-diesel-turbo-tdi-vanagon/7511156241.html

EPA certified 2.5L gas with 4 sp auto and 5 sp manual in 1995.
Rerated to 14 city, 17 hwy with both transmissions.
Apparently they no longer disclose the original ratings.
https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/1995_volkswagen_eurovan.shtml



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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 23:59:59 +
From: Rick Knoble 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] I'm Going To
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Need some serious self control on this one.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/orland-park-1997-mercedes-benz-e420/7511342908.html


Rick

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 20:58:20 -0400
From: Buggered Benzmail 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm Going To
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That is a helluva deal if it checks out. Beautiful car. AMG wheels are worth 
quite a bit. Go for it.

--FT
Sent from iF?n

> On Jul 20, 2022, at 8:00 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
> ?Need some serious self control on this one.
>
> 

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb striped tensioner threads

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

What is the thread size for the tensioner bolt?
I may have the timesert kit that I could lend to you.



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   2. Re: OT Frontier no start (Rick Knoble)
   3. 606 timing cover replace or repair threads? (Kaleb Striplin)
   4. Re: 606 timing cover replace or repair threads? (G Mann)
   5. Re: OT Frontier no start (Buggered Benzmail)
   6. Re: OT Frontier no start (Allan Streib)
   7. Re: OT Frontier no start (G Mann)
   8. Re: OT Frontier no start (Jim Cathey)
   9. Re: OT Frontier no start (Allan Streib)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 18:57:05 -0400
From: "Allan Streib" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: [MBZ] OT Frontier no start
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Suddenly today Nissan Frontier will not start. Starter turns very slowly or not 
at all. Acting like low battery but jump start does not change anything. Also 
headlights are bright, windows open normally, etc so that indicates battery is 
good. I don't have a battery tester but battery is only a few years old.

It's a manual so tried to roll start it but didn't really have enough of a hill 
to get much speed. It didn't work. Do you normally use 2nd or 3rd gear for that?

Of course it's not at home. Will try to start it tomorrow pulling with a tow 
chain, and bring a voltmeter so i can at least see what battery voltage is.









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Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 23:09:32 +
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Traditionally second gear.


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] OT Frontier no start

Suddenly today Nissan Frontier will not start. Starter turns very slowly or not 
at all. Acting like low battery but jump start does not change anything. Also 
headlights are bright, windows open normally, etc so that indicates battery is 
good. I don't have a battery tester but battery is only a few years old.

It's a manual so tried to roll start it but didn't really have enough of a hill 
to get much speed. It didn't work. Do you normally use 2nd or 3rd gear for that?

Of course it's not at home. Will try to start it tomorrow pulling with a tow 
chain, and bring a voltmeter so i can at least see what battery voltage is.







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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 18:12:14 -0500
From: Kaleb Striplin 
To: Dan Penoff via Mercedes ,
davesl...@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 606 timing cover replace or repair threads?
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Getting ready to get this stripped belt tensioner bolt fixed on the 99
606 of my fathers.? My current plan is to repair it with the cover in
place with a time sert.? These things are expense and the kit for this
is $258.? Of course that includes 5 inserts. I am planning on having the
possibly remove the radiator and condenser. Doing that the timing chain
is right behind the hole so would have to mark the depth on the drill
bit so I know how far I can go.

Pricing a new cover, its around $193 for a new cover from various MB
parts dealers online.? Should I attempt to repair the threads or just
bite the bullet and start pulling the front of the engine apart?? I
assume water pump, vacuum pump, pulley, alternator bracket, ps pump and
bracket, crank pulley?? What else would have to come off.? Is it
removable without pulling the head and oil pan?



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 18:46:57 -0700
From: G Mann 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 606 timing cover replace or repair threads?
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Thinking strictly from the structural engineer's point of 

Re: [MBZ] cub cadet tiller

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

This tiller looks to have been repowered by a Harbor Freight preditor engine 
(honda knock off). Not a bad motor but parts availability is about non 
existant.  It is similar to a Troy bilt pony in size. Rear tine like this 
tiller is the way to go, much easier to operate than a front tine tiller.  How 
big a garden are you planing on?  This would do the job for a small garden.  My 
concern would be the gear box construction. Does this tiller have a cast iron 
gear box with real bearings or an alluminum or worst yet tin gear box with 
bushings instead of bearings.  An older(pre fmc) Troy Bilt horse would be a 
better long term and large garden choice.

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   2. OT cub cadet tiller (Allan Streib)
   3. Re: OT cub cadet tiller (Rick Knoble)
   4. Re: OT cub cadet tiller (Buggered Benzmail)
   5. Manual Swap into a Diesel W126 (Jack Crone)
   6. More on the copart ML (Kaleb Striplin)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 18:30:46 -0600
From: Kaleb Striplin 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fakebook
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I have never had one or used one, but probably could have used one in
the past.

On 1/15/2022 6:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> Yep, made the valve adjustment bent wrenches with a couple of cheap wrenches, 
> I think they are "Companion" brand from the store formerly known as Sears. 
> Cheap wrenches are thiner and easier to bend.
>
> If you work on cars at all you need a blowtorch. Does not need to be the full 
> oxy-acetylene rig, just a standard hardware store propane torch will be hot 
> enough.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, at 6:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> This guy Spencer bends up some cheap wrenches for valve adjustments and
>> sells a pair for $30 or something and these fools go gaga over them.
>> I?m like dude go to the pawn shop and get a coupla cheep wrenches, heat
>> them with a torch and bend them and you?re good. And these fools are
>> like I don?t have a torch so this is a good deal. A torch is what, $20?
>>   You?re still ahead plus you learn something. Total idiots, they
>> deserve to be ripped off by this guy if they won?t listen to reality.
>>
>> Some guy said he was waiting on some cut springs to lower his car. Fnidiots.
>>
>> We should start selling some shite to these fools.
>>
>> --FT
>> Sent from iF?n
>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 6:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> ?That was a big mistake.  The guy is a moron, probably as big of a moron as 
>>> their expert kid who supposedly runs a shop.  I have seen a lot of chatter 
>>> for quite a while of similar things.  A while back he was trying to sell 
>>> all of his junk parts that nobody wants because he was moving or something. 
>>>  This is also the kid that took apart a perfectly good 123 because he 
>>> wanted to learn out to take one apart.  WTF?
>>>
 On 1/15/2022 5:29 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
 I didn?t want to have to post this but really don?t have too many other 
 options right now. Spencer Lerman has advertised on this forum several 
 products and services. Some things that are needed and there are not a lot 
 of options to be found. Specifically rebuilding of brake booster vacuum 
 lines. Submitted order , paid and sent him my old line in early Nov to be 
 rebuilt. Here it is middle of Jan and still no rebuilt hose. I pride 
 myself on patience but I?ve about run out.  I would not recommend ordering 
 from Spencer even if you don?t have many options. This has been a most 
 frustrating experience.

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 194, Issue 88 85 300d cold start

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

When did you adjust the valves last?  Dino or synthetic oil?

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Yes.

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin via 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 7:46 PM
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Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing starter amp draw

So I really need to do it at the battery under the front seat?

On 1/11/2022 6:44 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Not unless a power source is connected to that post. You're at a dead end, 
> there's no current flow there unless something is connected to the post, like 
> a jumper cable.
>
> -D
> 
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> via Mercedes 
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> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: [MBZ] Testing starter amp draw
>
> Can I use a clamp meter here to measure starter draw?
>
>
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 18:57:26 -0600
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Class Action Suit relating to Bluetec issues?
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That is a possibility

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> On Jan 11, 2022, at 6:48 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
> ?Maybe MBZ and Bosch owe you $3500 on your new truck.
> If so...BONUS!
>
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>> I may have read that Mercedes had to update emission software similar
>> to the issue VW had, only not to the extent that VW did.
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:42:54 -0500
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Isn't that sweet, somebody put a pretty red bow on it for Christmas.

It looks way better than the $60 burn damaged Delorean I saw at
Louisville a few years ago.

> https://www.copart.com/lot/31200542/2004-mercedes-benz-clk-320c-ok-tulsa



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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 20:48:49 -0500
From: RICK HAWKINS 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Smart thermo

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 193, Issue 47 300td rght rear caliper

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

A caliper to fit the right rear 300td appears to not be that rare an item. If 
you look at the link to the oem brake caliper at the bottom of the listing is a 
list of all the vehicles it will fit. Which includes 84 and 85 300d,sd and cd, 
as well as 86 and 87 300sdl.

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   3. Re: Jingle Bells Mercedes Diesel Style (Curley McLain)
   4. Re: W123 300TD needs RR brake caliper (Frederick Moir)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 23:25:06 -0600
From: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
To: G Mann via Mercedes 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Because you can never have enough moose
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Interesting.?? Shows that any mammal can be subjugated if offered free
food and shelter.?? Not just the human animal.

Maybe Curt and Dimitri can start moose farms up in Maine.

> G Mann via Mercedes 
> December 4, 2021 at 10:46 PM
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Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2021 20:52:40 -0600
From: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
To: Mercedes_Discussion_List , okie talk

Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How long have you been here? Csn you remember?
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I joined Kathy Kenels's MBCA list in the mid 90s, but it had little
content about W110s, and little expertise.? I Joined Alex Gabbard's
veteran's list in 95 or 96.?? Great people there. Tried the ritter
easley(hitler) list about the same time.?? Nothing there but 124/126
stuff, so I quit.?? When Alex gave up being listmom, I was about to
offer to, when Dickarde offered, and he already had equip and running
lists.? From dickarde's MBZ.org I was on Diesel and Veterans lists.??
The veterans morphed into 108 list, and was of no use to me. By then I
had the 81 240D since about 1994 or 5.??? The dickarde DIesel list and
the others all melted down when Dickarde's server melted down.??
Dickarde was too busy tok'in' weed to be bothered to get a server up and
running so the lists died for a couple months.? Kaleb scavenged the
dickarde list emails he had and invited us onto his new Mercedes list.??
Was there until I was booted for speaking truth. Okietalk is a great
place to be!

My 200D turned 56 in August.? I've had it 49 years.
Lost count of all the running and junker MBs I've owned.
I think I was up to 16 or so by 1979.

All Diesels other than the 2 380SLs #1 daughter insisted on, and the
E320 (124) I got from Kleb for her to drive in the winter.? Then there
was the 230TE and the 300TE.. and a junker 190c.?? So I guess I have had
6 vergassers.?? Happy when each one went down the road. (Except the
190c, it was only intended to be parts for 190Dc s and 200D.? I WAS
happy when I got the M120 engine from it sold!)


> Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
> November 27, 2021 at 8:20 PM
> I joined the diesel list in 2002 and yes Dr. Booth kept order and
> provided knowledge. I got my first diesel that year.(240D)
> Dwight
>
>
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
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Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 22:05:32 -0600
From: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
To: Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jingle Bells Mercedes Diesel Style
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 191, Issue 48

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

That BMW diesel was also used in some of the "Vixen" motorhomes around thst 
time. I dont recall there being any head issues. Hard to source replacement 
parts however.

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   3. Re: 2008 S550 4Matic - 160k miles - $4,299 (Rick Knoble)
   4. Bill Blass edition Lincoln Turbodiesel on BAT (Andrew Strasfogel)
   5. Re: Bill Blass edition Lincoln Turbodiesel on BAT (dan penoff.com)
   6. Re: Rare car great color 1974 Mercedes Benz 450 SLC - $15,
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   7. Re: Taxes under $200 a year. Luxury without the expenses!
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 10:45:36 -0400
From: Floyd Thursby 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] Rare car great color 1974 Mercedes Benz 450 SLC -
$15,000
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green Only 53,000 original mi.

https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/little-river-1974-mercedes-benz-450-slc/7393534257.html

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 10:53:28 -0400
From: Floyd Thursby 
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Subject: [MBZ] Transmission is slipping 2007 Mercedes-Benz GL-Class GL
450 Sport Utility 4D, $3, 000
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/172413501257

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Probably going to need a timing sprocket too.


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2008 S550 4Matic - 160k miles - $4,299

Rode hard and put up dirty. I?d go $2k on that. New trans would need to be 
reprogrammed too, or just swap the conductor plate over

?FT

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> ?"starts and runs but doesn?t drive, needs transmission"
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> Looks like it might also need a new rear window.
>
> Extra 2 in the price?
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 13:08:34 -0400
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Seems way too cheap.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-lincoln-mark-vii/


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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2021 17:19:51 +
From: dan penoff.com 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bill Blass edition Lincoln Turbodiesel on BAT
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I wonder if that?s the same BMW Diesel engine that had head problems from that 
time frame?

-D

> On Oct 14, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> ?Seems way too cheap.
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1984-lincoln-mark-vii/
> 

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 190, Issue 53, VW FI

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

VW started using FI with the 1968 type 111, continued with the type 4, type 1 I 
think in 1974 maybe 73, type 2
FI around 76. All very reliable but a bit over complicated.

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  linotype, intertype, and other old presses (G Mann)
   3. Re: OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
  linotype, intertype, and other old presses (Jim Cathey)
   4. Re: OT: Don't see these too often (dan penoff.com)
   5. 1998 ML320 - 165k miles - $2,500 (Allan Streib)
   6. Re: 1998 ML320 - 165k miles - $2,500 (dan penoff.com)
   7. 2003 SLK320 - 54k miles - $12,500 (Allan Streib)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 13:03:47 -0700
From: Jim Cathey 
To: Curt Raymond 
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
linotype, intertype, and other old presses
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> I think you're putting a lot of faith into your ability to refuel, especially 
> after, say, a month...

Again, not MY ability to refuel.  Just that enough people would be able to 
refuel,
probably by violence and theft, to help spread the fall of civilization.  With 
EV
the rot is a day's travel from home, and then it's on foot.  With ICE, the rot 
is a
month's travel from home before it's on foot.  Which damages more of the
somewhat self-sufficient rural community?

-- Jim




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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 13:11:00 -0700
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
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I presume your survival vehicle is a pre-computer controlled diesel , and
part of your survival tool kit is a reliable fuel transfer [multiple
options] mechanical device? Aux tanks to extend range?
See Mad Max movie... ;))


On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 1:04 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> > I think you're putting a lot of faith into your ability to refuel,
> especially after, say, a month...
>
> Again, not MY ability to refuel.  Just that enough people would be able to
> refuel,
> probably by violence and theft, to help spread the fall of civilization.
> With EV
> the rot is a day's travel from home, and then it's on foot.  With ICE, the
> rot is a
> month's travel from home before it's on foot.  Which damages more of the
> somewhat self-sufficient rural community?
>
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 13:28:03 -0700
From: Jim Cathey 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
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My _personal_ survival vehicle would be my trusty '97 Dodge 4wd diesel pickup.
100% mechanical if you lash up the P7100's fuel cutoff solenoid, and you can
push/tow-start it if need be.  (Steep hill recommended!)  But I am not a
prepper, in any real sense, so I don't have all that other stuff.  With any 
advance
notice, my first response would be, while civilization still held, to load up
valuables and supplies in said truck/camper, with trailer, and move family and
self to the old family farm.  Then help the locals blow bridges and such, in
fine Lucifer's Hammer tradition.  Trade my sentry, and engineering, services
such as they are for food, hope they'd let me stay.  Alive.

-- Jim




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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 20:38:48 +
From: dan penoff.com 
To: Okie Benz 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't see these too 

Re: [MBZ] w123 door check strap

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Dwight , look at Ebay #133422332696 #194274102364.

From: Dwight Giles 
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 3:55 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com ; Ronald 
Courcy 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] w123 door check strap

Thanks
 I looked on eBay yesterday & couldn't find as o did before. Will look again.

CHOWDAHQ 14 on Sept. 11.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021, 10:28 AM Ronald Courcy via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
FYI. There are several 114mm w123 (new) door check straps listed on ebay right 
now for less than $120 delivered.

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   2. Re: 123 part search (Curt Raymond)
   3. 1991 190E 2.3L - 86k miles - $9,750 (Allan Streib)
   4. If you don't have the money don't call - 2008 GL450 - 201k
  miles - $6,990 (Allan Streib)
   5. Re: 123 part search (Dimitri Seretakis)
   6. Re: Roof Rack Idea Old Benzes (Dimitri Seretakis)
   7. Re: 1991 190E 2.3L - 86k miles - $9,750 (Rick Knoble)


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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 20:41:38 -0400
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 part search
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Yes. Gotta love the classic Center.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 7:29 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

> Perfect example of MB stepping up and building new parts that were
> previously NLA.
>
> And they say MB doesn?t care?.
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 6:07 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> > Yes rare. Classic center said they just remade some. It is for a friend
> of
> > mine. Mine was changed when I bought it.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 5:56 PM dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com> via 
> > Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > I did some digging and only came up with the OE part. You can find it
> at
> > a
> > > number of the RevParts sellers for under $250.00, but I don?t see any
> > > alternatives.
> > >
> > > Sorry.
> > >
> > > If it?s any consolation they?re trading on eBay for upwards of $350 for
> > > the uninitiated.
> > >
> > > I would say to bite the bullet and buy an OE one and move on. I?m
> > > surprised they?re still available considering the relatively small
> > > application base.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > > > On Aug 12, 2021, at 5:31 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am looking for a door stop/check strap for a 123 coupe.  They are
> > > > different from sedan and wagon. MB Classic has one for 250.00. (ouch)
> > > > Yesterday I found a URO one for much cheaper but I can't find it
> today.
> > > > Parts # is 123 720 03 16. Strap length is 114mm while sedan is 100mm.
> > > > Does Anybody have a good used one or know of a source? I have tried
> all
> > > the
> > > > major sources.
> > > > TIA
> > > > Dwight
> > > >
> > > > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > > > 1982 300CD
> > > > 2005 E320 4matic
> > > > Wickfo

Re: [MBZ] w123 door check strap

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

FYI. There are several 114mm w123 (new) door check straps listed on ebay right 
now for less than $120 delivered.

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   2. Re: 123 part search (Curt Raymond)
   3. 1991 190E 2.3L - 86k miles - $9,750 (Allan Streib)
   4. If you don't have the money don't call - 2008 GL450 - 201k
  miles - $6,990 (Allan Streib)
   5. Re: 123 part search (Dimitri Seretakis)
   6. Re: Roof Rack Idea Old Benzes (Dimitri Seretakis)
   7. Re: 1991 190E 2.3L - 86k miles - $9,750 (Rick Knoble)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 20:41:38 -0400
From: Dwight Giles 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 part search
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Yes. Gotta love the classic Center.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 7:29 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Perfect example of MB stepping up and building new parts that were
> previously NLA.
>
> And they say MB doesn?t care?.
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 6:07 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes rare. Classic center said they just remade some. It is for a friend
> of
> > mine. Mine was changed when I bought it.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 12, 2021, 5:56 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I did some digging and only came up with the OE part. You can find it
> at
> > a
> > > number of the RevParts sellers for under $250.00, but I don?t see any
> > > alternatives.
> > >
> > > Sorry.
> > >
> > > If it?s any consolation they?re trading on eBay for upwards of $350 for
> > > the uninitiated.
> > >
> > > I would say to bite the bullet and buy an OE one and move on. I?m
> > > surprised they?re still available considering the relatively small
> > > application base.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > > > On Aug 12, 2021, at 5:31 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am looking for a door stop/check strap for a 123 coupe.  They are
> > > > different from sedan and wagon. MB Classic has one for 250.00. (ouch)
> > > > Yesterday I found a URO one for much cheaper but I can't find it
> today.
> > > > Parts # is 123 720 03 16. Strap length is 114mm while sedan is 100mm.
> > > > Does Anybody have a good used one or know of a source? I have tried
> all
> > > the
> > > > major sources.
> > > > TIA
> > > > Dwight
> > > >
> > > > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > > > 1982 300CD
> > > > 2005 E320 4matic
> > > > Wickford RI
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 00:43:23 + (UTC)
From: Curt Raymond 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 part search
Message-ID: <832030786.105787.1628815403...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 14mm is about half an inch although I don't suppose the precise length matters 
all that much. Somebody that was good with a welder should be able to cut a 
sedan version and add half an inch of strap steel. A TIG welder would 

Re: [MBZ] Dan floor

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

I have had really good results using grout able vinyl tile over existing tile. 
It is recommended that you use a texture filler
On the original tile so that the texture does not eventually mirror on the new 
tile. Best to make sure the seams do not line up on the old and new tiles as 
well.

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  Mercedes Benz E320 - $6, 500 (Little River) (Floyd Thursby)
   2. Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.8 (Floyd Thursby)
   3. This is Cool (dan penoff.com)
   4. Re: Chimney plaster repair. (Curt Raymond)
   5. OT - Bathroom Flooring Question (dan penoff.com)
   6. Re: OT - Bathroom Flooring Question (Floyd Thursby)
   7. weird issue on the 05ML500 (Floyd Thursby)
   8. Re: OT - Bathroom Flooring Question (Allan Streib)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 10:30:05 -0400
From: Floyd Thursby 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] I ingested some unknown pharmaceutical GREAT
OPORTUNITY! 05 Mercedes Benz E320 - $6, 500 (Little River)
Message-ID: <775792b3-dabf-31c6-a7fb-f4f3add12...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/little-river-mercedes-benz-e320/7357558475.html

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 10:59:26 -0400
From: Floyd Thursby 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.8
Message-ID: <6471ac1f-2ff5-9073-5de8-9fc24c99c...@gmail.com>
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In which a guy builds a replica

https://www.rotesau.co.za/

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 15:10:36 +
From: dan penoff.com 
To: "mercedes@okiebenz.com" 
Subject: [MBZ] This is Cool
Message-ID: <8d8f7439-9009-4dab-be90-c7cd695b2...@penoff.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

At least I thought it was, especially if you?re into RC aircraft.

https://youtu.be/3zGeVSAHeuk

-D

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 15:11:27 + (UTC)
From: Curt Raymond 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chimney plaster repair.
Message-ID: <1084982700.1533752.1627657887...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 An exterior chimney is no good if you're trying to burn wood while it's really 
cold out. The draft is terrible until the chimney warms up and if it's really 
cold sometimes its hard to keep the chimney warm.

Our new house up north has a chimney in the kitchen/diningroom which is 
connected to an old cook stove that's all worn out, you can see the back wall 
right through the firebox. The chimney is covered like Dimitri's but in really 
nice shape so I'm going to uncover it and hopefully find a small cook stove as 
a replacement. Same thing in the parlor/living room, its got what must have 
been a nice stove in the '80s but looks really dated and out of place now. I'm 
on the lookout for either a Jotul 602 or an antique parlor stove. The Jotul 
looks right-ish and will be way more efficient...

-Curt

On Friday, July 30, 2021, 10:05:59 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
 wrote:

 Interior chimneys seem common here in the colder climates.
There were a bunch of missing shingles around the chimney and since they were 
replaced the leak seems to have gone away.

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> On Jul 30, 2021, at 7:09 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> ?Interior chimney, interesting.? Usually those on an outside wall are outside 
> of the house.
>
> Nice job, should last a very long time.? However, I personally would check 
> the cap and brickwork above the roof -- I expect the plaster failed due to 
> water intrusion.?
>
> My brother and I put new caps on my chimneys and re-laid the brick on the big 
> one before I put metal shingles on.? Should last another 60 years, in which 
> case repairs will be someone else's problem!
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Re: [MBZ] Lary T. Mini split

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Is your shop a free standing metal building with two inches of insulation?
Where are you located?  12 to 14k of cooling sounds inadequate and the heating 
needs may not be met as well.
Most min split systems come with adequate refrigerant in the outside unit for a 
25 foot run of tubing. There are high efficiency units available that can 
provide heat when outside temperature is five to ten degrees below zero.  
Installation is pretty simple. Run 220v power to outside unit. Low voltage 
wiring between inside and outside units. install llneset tubing in-between the 
inner band other units. Outside unit needs to sit on a slab on the ground or on 
brackets attached to the building. You will need to rent or borrow a vacume 
pump. After connecting the tubbing between the inner and outer unit you will 
need to "pull a vacume" on the tubing inorder to create a negative pressure and 
to verify that there is no leaks in the connections. Than you would open the 
valves on the outside unit to allow the refrigerant to flow through the system. 
Of course if you install yourself you will void the warranty. There are some 
systems that are made to use precharged linesets so you do not have to use a 
vacume pump. I HAVE WHOLESALE ACCESS TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT MANUFACTURES MINI 
SPLIT SYSTEMS (FUJITSU, Mitsubishi,LG etc) AND WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP YOU 
WITH YOUR selection/PURCHASE AND INSTALL.  Ron Courcy


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   2. 1991 ? $1,000 (Allan Streib)
   3. Re: Red death (Allan Streib)
   4. Re: Red death (Curt Raymond)
   5. Re: Red death (Allan Streib)
   6. Re: Mini splits (Larry Turner)
   7. Re: Mini splits (Kevin Kraly)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 14:52:53 -0400
From: "Allan Streib" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: [MBZ] 2012 S600 V12 needs head gasket - $13,000
Message-ID: <084711ca-8b4d-4c62-bd9f-18a94d432...@www.fastmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain


https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/taylorsville-2012-mercedes-s600-v12/7354620819.html

Allan


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 14:55:22 -0400
From: "Allan Streib" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: [MBZ] 1991 ? $1,000
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain

Any questions?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/d/wheatfield-1991-mercedes-benz/7354590859.html

Allan

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2021 15:00:35 -0400
From: "Allan Streib" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Red death
Message-ID: <080c0282-385a-4c14-ba33-18036aace...@www.fastmail.com>
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I was curious about it, since two people in my immediate household contracted 
COVID in November. I never had any symptoms. Also been going to the gym 4x week 
throughout the pandemic, very little mask-wearing there, never had any 
symptoms. A few weeks ago I got an antibody test, which was negative.

Allan


On Thu, Jul 22, 2021, at 1:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Is it that it mutates into something less deadly or that human's develop 
> antibodies (kind of a mutation in its own right) that better fight the virus?
> -Curt
>
> On Thursday, July 22, 2021, 1:07:40 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> I do hope that you are correct. However, I would prefer not to be one of
> those who dies before it mutates into something less likely to kill me.
>
>
>
> On 22/07/2021 11:26 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> > It is impossible to contain a virus that has become endemic. The OC43 
> > coronavirus likely caused an epidemic in the mid 1800's. It is now a common 
> > cold. That's how coronavirus' work. If they killed their hosts, the virus 
> > would burn itself out (see "ebola"). They become easier to spread, but less 
> > lethal. This particular virus will mutate to become another cold virus. 
> > Whether or not the media and the politicians will admit that is another 
> > story.
> >
> > Secondary assignment. Look up ADE, and for bonus credit look up Original 
> > Antigenic Sin.
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Sent: July 22, 2021 11:07 AM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Allan karmann Ghia where/tire

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

What size tires are you using on your Ghia?  It would be a good idea to verify 
that they fit in your spare tire "well".  I seem to remember that the stock 
size is 560/15 but 600/15 were a popular oversize. Nowadays 155 versus 165. 
Anyways the larger size did not fit in the spare tire well of the VW bugs I am 
not sure about the Ghia's.

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   2. Drives wary good - 2009 C63 AMG - 130k miles - $15,000
  (Allan Streib)
   3. Re: 2001 S500 sell or trade - 160k miles - $4,500 (Floyd Thursby)
   4. Re: Drives wary good - 2009 C63 AMG - 130k miles - $15,000
  (Floyd Thursby)
   5. Re: 2001 S500 sell or trade - 160k miles - $4,500 (Allan Streib)
   6. Re: 2001 S500 sell or trade - 160k miles - $4,500 (Floyd Thursby)
   7. Re: The ignition is broken and needs to be replaced 1984
  Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $1, 550 (Meade Dillon)
   8. Re: The ignition is broken and needs to be replaced 1984
  Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $1, 550
  (Buggered Benzmail)
   9. Re:  custom camouflage Wrap, gold 20? inch rims 2013
  Mercedes-Benz C-Class C 250 Coupe 2D,$14,000 (OK Don)
  10. Re: USPS in action (Allan Streib)
  11. Re: Froggy (Clay)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 15:51:14 -0400
From: Allan Streib 
To: Mercedes Okiebenz 
Subject: [MBZ] 2001 S500 sell or trade - 160k miles - $4,500
Message-ID: <874ke55wi5@viking.dsc.sice.indiana.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain

Appears to be black exterior, dark blue carpets and saddle-colored
leather on the seats. Original?

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-2001-mercedes-500-sell-or/7334674073.html

Allan



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 15:53:11 -0400
From: Allan Streib 
To: Mercedes Okiebenz 
Subject: [MBZ] Drives wary good - 2009 C63 AMG - 130k miles - $15,000
Message-ID: <871r995wew@viking.dsc.sice.indiana.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain


https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/nicholasville-2009-c63-amg/7334704589.html



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:02:58 -0400
From: Floyd Thursby 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2001 S500 sell or trade - 160k miles - $4,500
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Some sort of special edition or special order or something?? Looks
original though, and kinda nice. Get the VIN and see what it says

--FT

On 6/10/21 3:51 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> Appears to be black exterior, dark blue carpets and saddle-colored
> leather on the seats. Original?
>
> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-2001-mercedes-500-sell-or/7334674073.html
>
> Allan
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:04:16 -0400
From: Floyd Thursby 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drives wary good - 2009 C63 AMG - 130k miles -
$15,000
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

he Russkie not wary good english

I bet that car is hugely entertaining though

--FT

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> https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/nicholasville-2009-c63-amg/7334704589.html
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:25:30 -0400
From: Allan Streib 
To: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2001 S500 sell or trade - 160k miles - $4,500
Message-ID: <87y2bh4gcl@viking.dsc.sice.indiana.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

The VIN was in the ad, so I looked it up on lastvin.com. It shows:

InteriorLEATHER BLACK (231A)
Paint 1 DESIGNO-MOCCA BLACK PAINTWORK (033U)
...

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 183, Issue 90

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Re 1983 MB 300 on copart, look again it's a manual transmission grey market car!
Might be under priced

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   2. Re: Propane (Kaleb Striplin)
   3. Re: Propane (Dan Penoff)
   4. Re: Propane (Dan Penoff)
   5. Re: Blizzard (Meade Dillon)
   6. 560 (Kaleb Striplin)
   7. OT Texas wind turbines (Buggered Benzmail)
   8. Holy crack copart car (Kaleb Striplin)
   9. The MB Market (Buggered Benzmail)
  10. Re: OT Texas wind turbines (Meade Dillon)
  11. Re: OT Texas wind turbines (Meade Dillon)
  12. Re: Blizzard (Dwight Giles)
  13. Re: OT Texas wind turbines (Peter Frederick)
  14. Re: OT Texas wind turbines (Rick Knoble)
  15. Re: Blizzard (Rick Knoble)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 17:54:59 -0600
From: Kaleb Striplin 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Propane
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Correct.? IIRC the orifice size for propane is smaller.? Not long after
we moved in I pulled one of them and somebody has welded them closed
then drilled them out to the smaller size.? I also ordered a kit to
convert it with new orifices and some sort of springs and things for the
valve or regulator on the unit. I have not installed them yet.

On 2/15/2021 5:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> According to that label it's set up for natural gas. You'll need to
> convert it to run it on propane.
>
> Allan
>
>
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
>
>> Ventured out across the frozen Okie acres tundra to the shop. Pic attached of
>> the label on the overhead heater (there are 2). Looks like it?s a 144k btu
>> unit. Will one of those 100lb tanks run one of these? Probably would not run
>> both at the same time.
>> [cid]
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 17:57:07 -0600
From: Kaleb Striplin 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Propane
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It has 2 of them, one in each corner.? I figure I would only run 1 at a
time.

On 2/15/2021 5:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> Ugh. If you could set that thing up for lp or propane it would blow through 
> about 7 or 8 pounds of fuel an hour of run time. I could have sworn I 
> suggested enclosing a smaller space to heat and cool in your pole barn If 
> not, well there's a suggestion for a project for you.
>
>
> Rick
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 19:40:47 -0500
From: Dan Penoff 
To: Okie Benz 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Propane
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Yup, different orifices that will be smaller as propane has a higher BTU 
content than natural gas. The springs are for the demand regulator, as they 
will alter the pressure for operation on propane as well. Just unscrew the 
cover, remove the old spring, pop in the new one, screw the cover back on.

-D

> On Feb 15, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> Correct.  IIRC the orifice size for propane is smaller.  Not long after we 
> moved in I pulled one of them and somebody has welded them closed then 
> drilled them out to the smaller size.  I also ordered a kit to convert it 
> with new orifices and some sort of springs and things for the valve or 
> regulator on the unit. I have not installed them yet.
>
> On 2/15/2021 5:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> According to that label it's set up for natural gas. You'll need to
>> convert it to run it on propane.
>>
>> Allan
>>
>>
>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
>>
>>> Ventured out across the frozen Okie acres tundra to the shop. Pic 

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 181, Issue 28

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

I must admit, I spent a lot of time working on air cooled VW's. Staring in 
highschool and progressing to owning a gas station for four years after 
college. I tried to get one engine rebuilt a week in addition to the other 
repairs. Lots of floors, rocker panels and ball joint front axle 
reinforcements. I still have the engine line boring equipment as well as an 
assortment of air cooled VW'S, mostly rusting away. My attention lately has 
been to Mercedes vehicles. Ron Courcy

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   2. Re: 32kmi 1984 Mercedes Benz 300D - $28,000 (Greensboro) (G Mann)
   3. Re: VW Content: Isn't Poos cute? (Peter Frederick)
   4. Re: This car sells it self! 1986 Mercedes-Benz 560SL Roadster
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  11. Extra zero in price? (Allan Streib)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2020 14:04:44 -0500
From: Allan Streib 
To: Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Content: Isn't Poos cute?
Message-ID: <87eek2bvsj@viking.dsc.sice.indiana.edu>
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First car was a '71 super beetle. Rebuilt the engine, which was a
success. Attempted to repair rusted-out rocker panels, which was less so
but ended up servicable. Never really got the hang of adjusting the drum
brakes. Could get them working for a week or two but the pedal always
ended up going back to full travel and I'd have to pump the brakes to
stop. Replaced several wheel cylinders during my ownership, maybe I
never got all the air bled out. I was 17 and didn't really know what I
was doing -- Bentley mamual was my guide for everything.

Allan

Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:

>> Wonder how many of us have air cooled engine experience?
>
>
> My parents had a beetle.  Cold, and slow I remember.
>
> I replaced the rod and welded closed the hole in the block
> of my Ryobi garden tiller.  Does that count?
>
> -- Jim
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 12:27:54 -0700
From: G Mann 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 32kmi 1984 Mercedes Benz 300D - $28,000
(Greensboro)
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It is the ultra rare 6 cylinder 300D... interesting... but not possible...
Certainly top dollar price.

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> Why didn?t they put in on BAT crack.
>
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> > ?Wow
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Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 13:40:28 -0600
From: Peter Frederick 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Content: Isn't Poos cute?
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We had a 70 Beetle, dropped #3 exhaust valve 

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 179, Issue 99

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Re 98 E300 tensioner bolt.  A TimeSert thread repair would be far superior to a 
helicoil.  I may have the size needed and would be willing to lend you the 
tools needed. What diameter,pitch and length
Would you need. Is it the same as as the 86-87 straight 6 diesel? Thanks Ron 
Courcy

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  (Floyd Thursby)
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  (mi...@mitchellhaley.com)
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   7. Re: Cheap rusty C230 Coupe w/6-speed (Andrew Strasfogel)
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  12. Re: Uro W123 headlight doors (Karl Wittnebel)
  13. Re: Oldest Mercedes with screen display (Clay)
  14. 606 semi stripped belt tensioner hole (Kaleb Striplin)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 08:23:59 -0400
From: Dan Penoff 
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Subject: [MBZ] Biker Bar
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Since we?ve been posting jokes recently?.


A crusty old biker out on a long summer ride in the country pulls up to a 
tavern in the middle of no where, parks his bike and walks inside..

As he passes through the swinging doors, he sees a sign hanging over the bar:

COLD BEER: $2.00

HAMBURGER: $2.25

CHEESEBURGER: $2.50

CHICKEN SANDWICH : $3.50

HAND JOB: $50.00

Checking his wallet to be sure he has the necessary payment, the ole' biker  
walks up to the bar and beckons to the exceptionally attractive female 
bartender who is serving drinks to a couple of sun-wrinkled farmers.

She glides down behind the bar to the ole biker.

"Yes?" she inquires with a wide, knowing smile, "may I help you?"

The ole biker leans over the bar, "I was wondering young lady," he whispers, 
"are you the one who gives the hand-jobs?"

She looks into his eyes with that wide smile and purrs "Why yes, yes, I sure 
am".

The ole' biker leans closer and into her left ear whispers softly, "Well, wash 
your hands real good, cause I want a cheeseburger.


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 09:01:59 -0500
From: Kaleb Striplin 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Green E320 92k miles
Message-ID: <7ef3ebff-3a56-442c-bbce-617b7da2b...@striplin.net>
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How do they expect to get that kind of money with only 1 photo of the car?

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> On Oct 24, 2020, at 10:40 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> ?Very. And spendy too.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
>> On Oct 24, 2020, at 10:53 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> ?I must say that's a nice color
>>
>> https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/cincinnati-mercedes-benz-e320-92k-miles/7219580710.html
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 09:16:43 -0500
From: Kaleb Striplin 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.
Message-ID: <6db7c312-e29b-fc9a-b5ca-a7485d7fd...@striplin.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

https://www.carstereohelp.com/mercedesFiberOptic.htm

On 10/25/2020 5:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Had the same problem in my 02 ML500. Ended up having to send the head unit 

Re: [MBZ] I am looking to buy a jump box

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Any recommendations as far as jump box
Makes / models?  I am looking for one that has an air compressor as well.
I see a lot of Stanley fatmax ones on eBay but I get the feeling that they may 
not be very good. Thanks in Advance for any help. Ron Courcy

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   2. Re: 4Matic - Is It Worth It? (Floyd Thursby)
   3. Wheels for W210 (Jim Cathey)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:13:31 -0400
From: Dan Penoff 
To: Okie Benz 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?
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I would agree with your observations on the W163. Definitely more of a truck 
than a car.

-D

> On Oct 13, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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>
>
> Interesting...have they been trying to sell it since Thanksgiving, or did 
> they sell it, buy it back and list it at a higher price?
>
> https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=562277598
>
>
> As for the W163...after 3 years and 3000 miles, I think it's like a 210, but 
> shorter, bouncier, heavier (body on frame), with a two range transfer case 
> and C-class interior. Anybody disagree with that?<2003 
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 10:05:12 -0400
From: Floyd Thursby 
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 4Matic - Is It Worth It?
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I have been driving the $675ML500 (well, $700 now that I spent $25 on a
new ignition switch) a bit the last few days and I concur.? It is bouncy
and twitchy on bumpy roads (like my driveway), very stiff suspension,
tall, short wheelbase.? On smooth roads it is not bad but as soon as it
hits a bump in the road or a dip or hole of some sort, it bounces all
over again.? I find it somewhat tiring to drive just from the fairly
short trips I have taken.? I recall the former wife's 164 being softer
and less harsh in the steering and suspension, so it was fairly
comfortable on longer drives.

I went on a little ramble on Sunday, went down a dirt road to visit some
friends, we had big rains Saturday evening so there were some large
fairly deep pits filled with water, the sand gets soft but not really
muddy, I was quite impressed with how it went right through those spots,
I could feel the 4m pulling it along but there was no torque steering or
anything like that as I have noticed on my 4WD trucks and the old Jeep
Cherokee I had -- a lot more "agricultural" feel to the systems.? Seems
a pretty refined system.

The 4m on the 211 E320 wagon is fairly not noticeable although I have
driven it a bit through a wet field (grass) and I could feel it pulling
right along on the wet grass, so that was gratifying. The 210 might have
gotten mired up in that.

-_FT

On 10/13/20 9:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> I would agree with your observations on the W163. Definitely more of a truck 
> than a car.
>
> -D
>
>> On Oct 13, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Interesting...have they been trying to sell it since Thanksgiving, or did 
>> they sell it, buy it back and list it at a higher price?
>>
>> https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=562277598
>>
>>
>> As for the W163...after 3 years and 3000 miles, I think it's like a 210, but 
>> shorter, bouncier, heavier (body on frame), with a two range transfer case 
>> and C-class interior. Anybody disagree with that?<2003 
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[MBZ] PDQ. Porsche book

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Hi Pete I would be happy to have the Porsche book if it is sty available. Ron 
Courcy
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[MBZ] 1999 SLK. At salvage yard

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Hello can someone run a vin for me?
I am looking at a 1999 SLK for parts.
It's badged as a Sport model also has AMG badges. I would really like to grab 
the engine especially if it has been modified by AMG.  Vin # WDBKK47F5XF099621. 
 Options? Miles? Ownership history?  Thanks Ron Courcy.  
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 173, Issue 160

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Re shipping cost Ohio to Florida
Don who did you use to contract for shipping  the w420e from Ohio to Florida?
I had a w123cd shipped from Ohio to Rhode Island a few months ago at a cost of 
$600. Thanks Ron Courcy

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   3. Re: Happy Birthday, Kaleb (Dwight Giles)
   4. Re: New Addition to Dan's Acres (Dan Penoff)
   5. Re: New Addition to Dan's Acres (Kaleb Striplin)
   6. Re: New Addition to Dan's Acres (Buggered Benzmail)
   7. Re: New Addition to Dan's Acres (Dan Penoff)
   8. Re: June 1 (OK Don)
   9. Re: New Addition to Dan's Acres (Dan Penoff)
  10. Re: June 1 (Curt Raymond)
  11. OT: A little humor (Curt Raymond)


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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 19:15:59 -0400
From: Buggered Benzmail 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Addition to Dan's Acres
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Strong work. Hella deal. Looks really nice.

I don?t know how this compares to the 400E, power, torque etc. comparable?  
Better?

--FT
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> On Apr 24, 2020, at 4:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
> ?Bought a 1995 E420 from a guy in Columbus, OH today. Shipper is picking it 
> up this afternoon/evening, should be here by Sunday or Monday.
>
> Here are the details:
>
> 113k on the clock
>
> Delivery (1995) to 2015 lived in South Florida
> Seller bought it in 2015, took it to Columbus, OH
> Kept in a heated garage, washed whenever there was snow or ice on the roads
> Everything works, all original such as Becker radio, etc.
> Has issue with brake booster according to owner, sounds more like a vacuum 
> issue
> Has intermittent ASR/ABS fault
> Needs driver?s seat bottom cover (tears)
> Owner says the paint on the roof is checkered, but I got some close up photos 
> from him and if it is, I can barely see it. Might be a Martha thing.
> Two sets of wheels (snows and summer)
>
> $1500 sale price
>
> This deal came together so quickly it was scary. We were frantically trying 
> to find a way to transfer money around this afternoon after finding out the 
> shipper was on their way already. I wasn?t sure I was going to be able to get 
> a Hagerty policy issued before it got on the road, but that?s done, too.
>
> More upon arrival. I?ll get it on the SDS and see what?s up with the ASR/ABS. 
> I?m convinced the brake booster issue he?s described is a cracked vacuum line.
>
> -D
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 19:18:39 -0400
From: Dan Penoff 
To: Okie Benz 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Addition to Dan's Acres
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Slightly better. 4.2 liters of displacement versus 4.0. Facelift model, (94-95) 
so the last and best of the design and enhancements to the W124 chassis.

Just loaded on the truck about 30 minutes ago. Should be here on Sunday or 
Monday.

-D

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 7:15 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> Strong work. Hella deal. Looks really nice.
>
> I don?t know how this compares to the 400E, power, torque etc. comparable?  
> Better?
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 4:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>>
>> ?Bought a 1995 E420 from a guy in Columbus, OH today. Shipper is picking it 
>> up this afternoon/evening, should be here by Sunday or Monday.
>>
>> Here are the details:
>>
>> 113k on the clock
>>
>> Delivery (1995) to 2015 lived in South Florida
>> Seller bought it in 2015, took it to Columbus, OH
>> Kept in a heated garage, washed whenever there was snow or ice on the roads
>> Everything works, all original such as Becker radio, etc.
>> Has issue with brake booster according to owner, sounds more like a vacuum 
>> issue
>> Has intermittent ASR/ABS fault
>> Needs driver?s seat bottom cover (tears)
>> Owner says the paint on the roof is checkered, but I got some close up 
>> photos from him and if it 

[MBZ] Bat 3 wheeler

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Floyd I think what you remember the police meter maids using were Cushman 
"Service cars", the post office used small jeeps smaller and lower than CJ 
Jeep's,  2 wheel drive DJ  "dispatch Jeeps" , which were replaced by the larger 
aluminum bodied llv's "long life vehicles"
In the early 90's.  Ron Courcy

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 172, Issue 191

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

The damage is more than just the top.
The tree is laying across the doors it may not be salvageable. It was a project 
vehicle. One of many. Ron

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Courcy 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 172, Issue 191

Ron,
Yes no damage here in NK. Sorry about your beatle convertible  top. Do you have 
good top repair shop?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 7:27 PM Ronald Courcy via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
Storm much the same as DWIGHT no  Mercedes damage  but I did lose a super 
beattle convertible  to a fallen tree..
Neighbor THAT I SHARE A POLE WITH LOST POWER AND IS  RUNNING ON A GENERATOR 
TODAY. RON  Courcy
Exeter Rhode island.


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   1. Re: OT: Weekly market trip (Floyd Thursby)
   2. Re: This is the sort of deal I like but not the price.
  (Andrew Strasfogel)
   3. Re: OT: Weekly market trip (Dan Penoff)
   4. Outrageous green 1982 300SD with 4 k miles (Andrew Strasfogel)
   5. Re: Outrageous green 1982 300SD with 4 k miles (Dan Penoff)
   6. Re: Outrageous green 1982 300SD with 4 k miles (Curt Raymond)
   7. Re: Our W211 Diesel Dips (Andrew Strasfogel)
   8. Re: Our W211 Diesel Dips (Dan Penoff)
   9. Re: OT: Weekly market trip (Andrew Strasfogel)
  10. Re: Outrageous green 1982 300SD with 4 k miles (Andrew Strasfogel)
  11. Re: Our W211 Diesel Dips (Floyd Thursby)
  12. Re: OT: Weekly market trip (Floyd Thursby)


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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 11:58:43 -0400
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Weekly market trip
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I went to geezer hour at the grocery on Monday morning 6A-7A.? It was
mobbed with geezers driving their carts like they drive their cars in
the parking lot.? Some of those people were rather vicious and of course
they tend to wander and leave their carts crosswise of the aisles and
are oblivious to anyone else around.? Then after going through all the
checkout they stand there and oops realize, oh I actually gotta pay for
this, then root around for a wallet and debit card or whatever and that
takes another 5min.? I got a few things and decided not to deal with
that madness again.

Popped in yesterday afternoon, there was hardly anyone there. Only good
steaks, not much other beef.? Some chicken etc.? Plenty of eggyweggs.?
Other staples in short supply but I am fairly well-stocked in that regard.

Get off my damn lawn!!!

--FT

On 3/26/20 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> After last week's trip to the co-op I realized that we needed to institute a 
> limit on the number of times we allowed ourselves to go to the store. Its 
> easy to drive yourself crazy.
> So today, after a week, we headed out to our local grocery store.We got there 
> at about ten after 8, I knew we wanted this to be an early day thing. I'd say 
> it was amazingly busy for how early on a Thursday we were there but this 
> might be the new normal. We were among the youngest folks in the store, 
> unsurprising considering it was just after senior hours.
> There was plenty of food, maybe not exactly what we wanted but plenty 
> overall. I was a little surprised to find limited selection of pasta sauce, 
> rice, flour and eggs. Particularly on the egg front there were only bottled 
> eggs, no in-shell at all, there was a sign indicating they wouldn't have any 
> until tomorrow.Other than a couple boxes of tissues there were no paper 
> products at all, big sect

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 172, Issue 191

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Storm much the same as DWIGHT no  Mercedes damage  but I did lose a super 
beattle convertible  to a fallen tree..
Neighbor THAT I SHARE A POLE WITH LOST POWER AND IS  RUNNING ON A GENERATOR 
TODAY. RON  Courcy
Exeter Rhode island.


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   2. Re: This is the sort of deal I like but not the price.
  (Andrew Strasfogel)
   3. Re: OT: Weekly market trip (Dan Penoff)
   4. Outrageous green 1982 300SD with 4 k miles (Andrew Strasfogel)
   5. Re: Outrageous green 1982 300SD with 4 k miles (Dan Penoff)
   6. Re: Outrageous green 1982 300SD with 4 k miles (Curt Raymond)
   7. Re: Our W211 Diesel Dips (Andrew Strasfogel)
   8. Re: Our W211 Diesel Dips (Dan Penoff)
   9. Re: OT: Weekly market trip (Andrew Strasfogel)
  10. Re: Outrageous green 1982 300SD with 4 k miles (Andrew Strasfogel)
  11. Re: Our W211 Diesel Dips (Floyd Thursby)
  12. Re: OT: Weekly market trip (Floyd Thursby)


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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 11:58:43 -0400
From: Floyd Thursby 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Weekly market trip
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I went to geezer hour at the grocery on Monday morning 6A-7A.? It was
mobbed with geezers driving their carts like they drive their cars in
the parking lot.? Some of those people were rather vicious and of course
they tend to wander and leave their carts crosswise of the aisles and
are oblivious to anyone else around.? Then after going through all the
checkout they stand there and oops realize, oh I actually gotta pay for
this, then root around for a wallet and debit card or whatever and that
takes another 5min.? I got a few things and decided not to deal with
that madness again.

Popped in yesterday afternoon, there was hardly anyone there. Only good
steaks, not much other beef.? Some chicken etc.? Plenty of eggyweggs.?
Other staples in short supply but I am fairly well-stocked in that regard.

Get off my damn lawn!!!

--FT

On 3/26/20 11:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> After last week's trip to the co-op I realized that we needed to institute a 
> limit on the number of times we allowed ourselves to go to the store. Its 
> easy to drive yourself crazy.
> So today, after a week, we headed out to our local grocery store.We got there 
> at about ten after 8, I knew we wanted this to be an early day thing. I'd say 
> it was amazingly busy for how early on a Thursday we were there but this 
> might be the new normal. We were among the youngest folks in the store, 
> unsurprising considering it was just after senior hours.
> There was plenty of food, maybe not exactly what we wanted but plenty 
> overall. I was a little surprised to find limited selection of pasta sauce, 
> rice, flour and eggs. Particularly on the egg front there were only bottled 
> eggs, no in-shell at all, there was a sign indicating they wouldn't have any 
> until tomorrow.Other than a couple boxes of tissues there were no paper 
> products at all, big section of shelves completely empty.
>
> Chicken was in limited supply but there was some. There was plenty beef and, 
> interestingly tons of ham. We bought a little chicken but we've got loads of 
> moose, venison, and pork.
> People were wary but polite, I didn't see any unpleasantness at all.
> Most importantly I got a bottle of tonic water. We're hosting a "virtual 
> happy hour" Friday night and I need to be prepared. :)
> -Curt
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What is YOUR price?

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 10:42 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/492514894715224/
>

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 172, Issue 110

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Re Dan Penoff. Minin split system.
The big players are Mitsubisihi and Fujitsu . What is the seer rating of the 
system.
Ac or ac & heat?  Most manufacturers make multiple efficiency levels of their 
systems. With the more efficient ones costing more. I installed a handful of 
them and have been using some for nearly 10 years at my primary residence.
Very happy with the performance.
Ron Courcymultiple MB vehicles.

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   1. Re: Loosening the horizontal console wood (Meade Dillon)
   2. Re: Loosening the horizontal console wood (Craig)
   3. Re: It?s hard to tell fact from fiction (Clay)
   4. Re: OT = On topic 124/OM602 overheating (Curley McLain)
   5. OT - Mini-Split (Dan Penoff)
   6. Re: OT = On topic 124/OM602 overheating (Dan Penoff)
   7. Re: Win XP needed (Frederick Moir)
   8. Re: OT - Mini-Split (Buggered Benzmail)
   9. Re: OT = On topic 124/OM602 overheating (Curley McLain)
  10. Re: Loosening the horizontal console wood (Max Dillon)
  11. crossflow refrig condensor for 134a (Curley McLain)
  12. Re: OT - Mini-Split (Dan Penoff)


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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 17:30:19 -0400
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Use a bright light, find the two screws inside the console box, one each
side, I think toward the front of the box.  Get that console box out of the
way and you'll find the screw to remove so you can get the center console
wood piece out.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 5:00 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Now I need some help with my 1993 E300D/2.5 Turbo
>
> I want to remove the ashtray.
>
> I have already taken out the two Phillips screws in the upper rear of the
> ashtray assembly.
>
> I know I need to slide the horizontal console wood (the one through which
> the shift lever pokes) to the rear, but the console "glove" box is over
> where the end of the wood is.
>
> On our previous E300D (1990), I could readily access the the aft end of
> the wood, remove a screw, and slide the wood backwards. This one does not
> seem to have that option.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Craig
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:51:19 -0600
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On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 17:30:19 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Use a bright light, find the two screws inside the console box, one each
> side, I think toward the front of the box.  Get that console box out of
> the way and you'll find the screw to remove so you can get the center
> console wood piece out.

Thank you, Max, for the reply. It turns out I did just what you said and
came back to the computer to post I had found the solution and saw your
email.

The two screws are at the extreme front end of the console box on the
outside corners underneath fuzz, hair, and other cruft so they were
hidden. Once that was out of the way, yes, the screw to remove was
visible and now the ashtray is out.

I put the radio removal tools I got from Floyd's link on Amazon and am
now trying to pull the radio out so I can disconnect the electrical plugs.

The radio, however, does not want to cooperate.

Do I just pull harder?


Craig



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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 13:52:34 -0800
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This was the existential crisis/mass hysteria of the moment as the whoohoo flu 
was just kicking off, early Dec. 2019.  Media produced lies and muckraking 
where three months later Death and TP depletion took hold.

[MBZ] 88 mb 300ce rear glass

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

With regards to the 88 300 ce rear glass.
I am not sugessting you commit fraud but when you are ready to insure this car 
it would only cost your deductible to have the rear glass replaced. Ron Courcy. 
multiple MB vehicles long time list lurker
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 135, Issue 123

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

with regards to antenna drive belts. My last interaction with Continental USA 
was quite a while ago but in summary  they said they could not sell the belt to 
me directly due to contract limitations. However they said nothing prevented 
them from giving me the belt. Which they did. So why don't you contact them and 
see if they are still willing to provide the belt for free. Ron Courcy



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   2. Re: 83 300SD (Dan Penoff)
   3. Re: Buy my Stuff (Kaleb C. Striplin)
   4. Re: 83 300SD (Scott Ritchey)
   5. Hirschmann belt (clay)


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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 18:08:42 -0800
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Then it must be a  which leads to less 
busting desire

clay


> On Feb 19, 2017, at 6:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
> Strange - our kids and their friends are all busting butt and getting
> results for the most part, despite the lousy job climate for their age
> group.
>
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 7:53 PM, clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
>> We did not do this alone.  The whole population of them just has no drive
>> or desire it seems.  There are a few kids who will bust a hump to get
>> ahead.  There were many who shares schooling with my kids.  A bunch went
>> off to Yuuuge liberal arts schools with their talent.  I am not sure if
>> they blew a gasket in the past five years after getting out from under
>> mummy and daddy?s thumb.   A few kids I knew back in the day who were
>> overly successful in Highschool, had tigermom parents, and the kids burned
>> out within three years.  A few had major psychic problems.
>>
>> clay
>>
>
>
>
> --
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>
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.?* ? Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:25:02 -0500
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I understand the mindset, but I don?t think it?s endemic.

My youngest is putting out resumes and applying for jobs daily now that he?s 
graduated.  The worst part of all this is that the current industry climate in 
the environmental business, no matter where you are, is to circle the wagons 
and hunker down.  He?s applying for really crappy public works jobs that will 
give him some broader experience to try and improve his potential for getting a 
?real? job.  I have been using what favors I have to try and get him into the 
County so he might be able to get a start in the environmental business with 
them.  In the meantime he works at a local golf course where rich white guys 
shove cash at him for taking care of their golf carts.

This is a real conundrum for him - it?s not uncommon for him to come home with 
a 

[MBZ] RE Time-Sert thread repair inserts

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Hello all , I can personally attest to Time-Sert inserts efficacy and superior 
quality.  I have used them for more than 30 years  beginning when I ran an 
import repair business and was looking for an alternative to KD  solid spark 
plug repair inserts which were notorious for backing out when spark plugs were 
later removed for replacement.  (VW air cooled engines) .  I also used them 
routinely to repair stripped VW head stud threads in the block as well stripped 
Magpilotjet threads on Solex carburetors. Time -sert inserts lock in place when 
they are installed they do not back out.  Time-sert inserts require a smaller 
oversize hole due to the way they are made, the peaks and valleys of their 
internal and external threads are "timed" synchronised so that the internal and 
external threads align and thus a smaller outside diameter is required as 
compared to other thread repair systems.  Time-Sert thread repair has been 
selected for OEM  to dealer supplied engine thread repair kits for mos
 t american cars for at least the last 10 years.  The only "Big-Sert" I am 
aware of were made to repair those same spark plugs threads.  The only real 
drawback with the Time-Serts is the initial investment in the repair kits.  
Time-serts repair kits are typically at least six times the cost of a similar 
Helicoil repair kit. However the cost of the inserts themselves are quite 
competitive with other systems. If anyone on the list wants  to borrow a 
Time-sert kit I have quite a few different ones that I am willing to loan out.  
 Thanks Ron Courcy
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[MBZ] 300sdl overheating: Peter

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

which w124 radiators can be made to fit the sdl ?  Only 88 or newer w124 300d 
(only) ? Till what year?Why won't  1987 w124 with the same 6 cylinder diesel 
motor work?   Thanks to all for your suggestions and advice.  Ron Courcy
   
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[MBZ] 300sdl over heating

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

I had driven close to 1000 miles on the trip,  mostly at about 65 mph, before 
overheating became an  issue. At that time I could not  get heat from the 
heater or defroster ( low coolant level). Not the easiest car to purge the air 
out of the cooling system.  When it was at worst the car quickly heated up if 
driven at low speeds or if  forward motion was delayed by traffic or a traffic 
light.  Drove last  150 miles of the trip to Florida  at 50 mph as temp would 
approach 120 c if driven slower or faster. Used the car today for a short 
errand  ( 9 miles one direction)  ran defroster to maximize cooling, car did 
not overheat even in traffic,stayed about 90 degree c . On return trip I did 
not run the defroster, no over heating.  Both drives no more than 55 mph. Even 
heating of radiator at conclusion of drive.  I don't think there is a blockage 
as the radiator heats up evenly when the car is not overheating.  Ron Courcy
  
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[MBZ] 300sdl overheating

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

My 1987 MB 300sdl just started overheating on a road trip to Florida from Rhode 
Island.I do not appear to be getting proper water circulation. Engine gets very 
hot even though the water in the expansion tank is still cold.  If I feel along 
the radiator it is a little warm at the top but cold everywhere else.  I have 
already had the thermostat replaced which did not make much difference except 
that the normal operating temperature is slightly higher.  I tried to bind up 
the fan clutch so that it drives constantly that appeared to work  for a short 
while until the wire ties I used to bind it up failed.  I am thinking of 
replacing the fan clutch.  Is there much of a possibility that the water pump 
itself is worn out?  Its not leaking.When the car gets hot the radiator 
hoses gets rock hard and their does not appear to be any circulation through 
the radiator. That is when the top of the radiator is warm and all else cold. 
There is no immediate production of pressure upon a cold start 
 up, bubbling into the expansion tank/reservoir. The car starts easily and does 
not sound like an overheated motor even when the temp gauge indicates it is 
very warm.  Any ideas?  Ron Courcy
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[MBZ] garage door springs

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

>From the description it sounds like the garage door springs in question are 
>torsion springs  (mounted above door , parallel  with door) not perpendicular 
>with door using cables .  Much more dangerous to work with,adjust,replace and 
>much more expensive than the normal springs.  Look up on line instructions for 
>how to adjust tension.  Ron Courcy
  
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[MBZ] limited slip rear end for w126 cars

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

Hello  Does anyone on the list have access to which w126 cars may have come 
with limited slip rear ends (posi).

 I have the idea that some of the big body gas cars may have been equiped with 
a limited slip rear end.  Which ones would have a similar gear ratio to what 
the sdl came with?  How to identify the limited slip rear end?  Thanks Ron 
Courcy
  
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