Re: [MBZ] How much is 90 degrees?
I have a Snap-On TA360 which measures at the socket, really handy for heads that do strange degrees like the Volvo S70 at torque plus 130 deg. Dave Lynnwood, Wa. Message: 7 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:21:21 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] How much is 90 degrees? Message-ID: a062408f1cd0274c2d3a5@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ; format=flowed When torquing the OM 60x stretch headbolts, after pretorquing, you are to turn them 90?, wait 10 min, then turn another 90? for the final stretch, and torque. When turning the final 90? it feels like the bolts yield, as designed, for part of the final 90?. Here is my question: I use triple square bit with a 13mm hex. Then a 13mm socket on a 12 extension, topped by a breaker bar. On the first torque, there is maybe 10? flex between the final position with the handle torqued and the untorqued position of the handle at rest. Do you measure the 90? at the handle, resulting in the bolt being turned maybe 80-85?, or do you turn the handle past 90 so that the head of the bolt turns 90?? I turned the handle past and sort of split the difference between the loaded and unloaded handle position. Since I could feel the bolts yield and stretch on the last turn, I figger this is close enough. I am a bit surprised waycee jitney doesn't sell a degree wheel of some sort for this. I am even more surprised that Daimler/MB does not insist on using a special tool to get precisely 90? on the turn. I guess the 90? is meant for the bolt head, but I was wondering how others have handled this vagary in the past. As specific as some instructions are in the book, it seems a bit odd that the head bolt torquing procedure is not very specific. I guess in der faterland, they expect every apprentice is taught this first. It would seem that the bolt heads should at least have a pointer stamped in them. The first time I encountered stretch headbolts was on Deutz engines in the late 70s. I think maybe KHD was ahead of Daimler Benz/MB on adopting the stretch bolts. But for the Deutz, we were playing around with new engines. Not exactly real world. I don't remember exactly when MB made the switchover to stretch bolts for the OM engines. I think it was somewhere around 1979 or 1980. Certainly there were not many replaced until the OM60x series of engines came out, with the cracking 14 heads. -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dead battery
I have used new batteries from Costco and Interstate, and have found Interstate to be the better of the two. Typically I don't buy batteries, usually I go down to the marine shop I used to work at and grab a discharged battery off of the core rack that has a recent date code, charge it and test it. 75% of the time it will be a good battery since the morons who work there don't know how to test a battery. I have also gotten two from the recycle section of the local landfill transfer station, both around a year old and tested good after charging. This practice is why I have a universal battery box in the trunk of my 240d and none under the hood. Dave L. -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:48:25 -0500 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Dead battery Message-ID: uruj8c89m3rv7f4gf09y961c.1354888105...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Any recommendations for a maker of good batteries these days? Looks like the Auto Zone Gold battery in my wife's Infiniti has died, just over three years old, only about 22k miles. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Subject: Low cost w115
Haha I think I looked at that car in 2009, head is in the trunk and it does not look like it has moved an inch since then. The owner's mother who was selling it was named Joelyn or something, would not take an offer below the $250 asking price! It was not too rusty at that time. I still have a 220d junk yard engine in my garage. I remember driving past CV-64 and CV-61 on death row to go look at it that day. Dave L Lynnwood Wa -- Message: 14 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:15:27 -0800 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Low cost w115 Message-ID: 894493b2-1c0e-4192-af56-9af06123f...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/3444742628.html I think there is a $400 om617 in PDX clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Subject: Re: 92 300E Eating Serpentine Belta?
Message: 1 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 09:28:52 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92 300E Eating Serpentine Belta? Message-ID: CABHyH=by=fvwojcmwje3uyd7kds0okjxtay-idddv+attw0...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Dec 3, 2012 9:21 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Gerrywho prefers chains or gears. Hmm. There are of course plenty of cars out there with chain-driven cams, and a few with gear-driven ones... but was an engine ever made with no belts at all? I.e., all accessories chain- or gear- driven? (Not counting motorcycle engines since they don't have any accessories to speak of.) Alex -- Not automotive but an interesting engine. The Mercruiser 470/488/165 4 cylinder 3.7L, head by Ford (460), Aluminum block by Mercury Marine, Outboard style alternator behind the front pulley, Delco distributor, Rochester carburator, GM bellhousing bolt pattern. and no belts if there was no power steering, the waterpump was driven off of the end of the camshaft. Dave L Lynnwood, Wa. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG
I get 28 to 29 MPG on my mixed freeway/city commute in my '77 240D. (1979 drivetrain, AC removed) The way I drive it, I am surprised there is no hole in the carpet under the accelerator. David Liddell -- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:46:49 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG Message-ID: CAC35L=te_XPZoMZcAgMXFP4T9oUyDOVrJ-ii=xt0arc-fvl...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My 1983 and 1985 CA version 300TD wagon each get about 20 mpg around town. Why? On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: 27 mpg road and city, both cars, '83 300D and '83 240D. Gerry From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com 240D - 30mpg highway. On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: What MPG do you guys that still drive W123 chassis cars get? Mike On Oct 26, 2012 10:05 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I love my 83 300d! Just got back from a trip to Rochester and back. 160 gps miles, 5.35 gallons of fuel comes to 29.9mpg driving like I stole it. It has NA gears in the rear so it comes off the line pretty well but really turns some rpm's(tach doesn't work) at 75 and 80mph but runs along smooth as can be at that speed. Gotta do a valve adjustment and general checkover to get ready for an 1800 mile trip to Parris Island to pick up my son after boot camp. So, 60 gallons or so of veggie oil should get me there and back. That's about $5 worth of filtering and 1 hour of my time to process the fuel. And, I get to drive one of the finest cars ever madegotta love it! Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Another CL sailer
I like the galvanized boat trailer wheels on the front. What is the boat on the roof for, sunroof leak? dave -- Message: 11 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 03:32:56 -0400 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Another CL sailer Message-ID: d577da7c-1d29-4f19-9ef4-1d7727f41...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3326114556.html Good candidate for There I fixed it? I wonder if the boat comes with the car? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Filterfor coolant?
If your boat has not been in salt water, used regularly, and correctly winterized there will be some sediment in the bottom of the block but not the big flakes you see in a salt water boat. If you are looking at a full FWC kit which also runs the antifreeze through the exhaust manifolds, I would replace the manifolds, remove the core plugs in the block and blast the coolant passages in the block with a pressure washer and not bother with a filter. If doing a half system, just do the core plug thing. Since the antifreeze goes around the outside of the cooling tubes in the heat exchanger there is alot of area to clog and it probably will not create a choke point. Your other option would be to use a sea-strainer (usually found on inboards and jet boats to catch sand or seaweed in a cleanable basket) inline in front of the heat exchanger. dave Wa. (the big one) '77 240d Looking for a good 300CD project -- Message: 10 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:46:56 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT - Filterfor coolant? Message-ID: 50783b70.5000...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Does anyone have any ideas on how one might filter coolant on an engine? I admit I have not done any sort of google search etc. I am just putting this out here to see if anyone has encountered such a device or has ideas of how one might create such. The gist of it is that I would like to filter coolant on a boat engine. I have an inboard outboard that has been run for years with lake water pumped through it. - Only fresh water so not an issue of salt water corrosion but never-the-less somewhat rusty looking inside. I would like to install a closed system setup so that the engine uses anti-freeze and is cooled by the fresh water going through the heat exchanger. The folks on the boating forum suggest this is not going to work because the rust particles from the engine will clog up the heat exchanger passages. They say it should only be installed on a new engine. So, my thought is that there must be some fairly simple way to filter the water flowing through so that I can trap and remove the rust particles. There is some space available on a boat so not like trying to fit something under the hood on a car. Ideas? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PNW parts yard
Thanks for the heads-up, I've been meaning to check them out since I heard that they are owned by the Ferril family who made the Everett and Lynnwood yards self service. Dave '77 240d '84 Volvo 245 Turbo -Not for long, #1 daugher totaled it two weeks go '89 Chev 3/4T conversion van '98 Volvo S70 GLT -- Message: 13 Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 13:43:40 -0700 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] PNW parts yard Message-ID: c839fe07-996f-4642-ac92-86d52ed10...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NW AUTO RECYCLERS PARTS YARD mich...@nwautorecyclers.com 425-905-2344 2317 N MACHIAS RD. LAKE STEVENS WA for any of the locals, this is a much better PnP than the Schnitzer yards. Loaded with tri-stars this month. W124 mostly clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo Wagon Question.
Message: 2 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 09:25:33 -0500 From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT Volvo Wagon Question. Message-ID: a0121bfa28702c4fa69fc5d9ceb56d08018db9e49...@mtsqhexc2.mtsqh.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My mother has a 2003 Volvo XC70 Wagon with the 2.5Turbo engine and AWD. Recently, she replaced the tires and they put them on the rear. The front tires should be replaced fairly soon. She claims that after that the car started riding oddly and just didn't seem very tight. I drove it last week to see if I could feel it. It seems to have two problems. One is at low speed, it kind of wanders. I would call it a duck walk. If that is it, I would assume the front tires are bad. BUT, here's the much bigger problem. In tight turns like into a parking space or as I was driving around the cul-de-sac, halfway through the turn, the steering with lurch into the turn. It is REALLY fast. If you are turning left, half way through, the steering wheel will just shoot to the left very fast. I am dreading the problem because I think it might be the steering rack. Anyone have any other ideas? It also just seems a little jerky and rough when driving down the road straight - almost like the tie rods are bad. But, I don't think that could cause the steering wheel issue. Donald H. Snook Isn't this the exact reason that you should always replace tires in a set of 4 on an AWD vehicle? I would suspect that the rear tires are larger diameter. Dave Liddell ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Indy is GOD!!!!
-- Message: 12 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:55:30 -0700 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] The dead have risen! Message-ID: 2b3023a5-9a59-488c-962b-f663ebb4f...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My Indy is GOD Frosch suffered a massive death due to idiot owner who made the wire harness go up in smoke. Indy got the car last week and had to order the harness from the Fatherland. Black Forest Elves grabbed Rumplestiltskin and have him weave the thing for Mercedes. I got a call late this afternoon that he needs the lift for other work. He pushed through today and got her back running well. Sort of fried more than we had thought. I had the alternator from Gump that got rebuilt, so he installed that. It has not that same pin out location as what was destroyed in Frosch. We had to get a new battery as well. A few toasted wires not in the harness need attention. Temp gauge is pegged, so that wire needs attention. Cooked some of the vac lines, and I will need to chase that down. Tach used to be pegged out, but now does not register. Indy told me he had to quit chasing gremlins, or he would needlessly rack up a huge bill. As it was, idiot tax was only $1200. I am going to reduce my under hood wrenching to less destructive tasks. Hood pad, fluid and filters, spiffing up the engine bay. Real wrenching will get sent to the shop. Dang thermostat should have been a $100 task, including parts. I had the same poor performance wrenching with Gump, and ended up paying $1k's to remedy the stupidity I subjected her to. Clutch, water pump, brakes, starter and alternator, oil pump, valves. That darn Gump was dirt cheap to get, but rectifying the screw ups I subjected her to cost me thousands . I have a few days to wash and wax to get her ready for the local show and shine this weekend clay Where are you showing, I would like to come by and see her? David Liddell Lynnwood Wa. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anyone need a #22 head?
Just saw this, no affiliation; http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/2876350630.html David Lynnwood, Wa. '77 240d UUgly Daily Driver '85 190e Daughter's, wish it was a D Some Volvos ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor
On 1/31/2012 2:05 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: I am the only one on this list who doesn't own a Mac or an Apple? Rick Sent from my iPhone, the only Apple device I have ever owned. Except for a couple Beatles records on the Apple Records label. I have never owned an Apple product, MS software has always done what I need to do. It helps if you live near Redmond (Wa.), you always know someone who is a MS FTE who can get you some software at the company store for 10%-20% of retail. If I confess to you that I work as a vendor for MS at the Redmond campus are you going to ban me? David Liddell Lynnwood, Wa. 1977 240d - Ugliest car @ MS Redmond 1985 190e - youngest daughter's first car. Volvos, VW, Chevrolets, Boats, Outboards, etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Beating Is In Order...
Hey, they only want $7 for it on CL. http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/2805556474.html - Original Message - Message: 3 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 08:10:24 -0500 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] A Beating Is In Order... Message-ID: 2fe0895a-47c8-48a5-b2ab-0d6dfda4c...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii for whoever did this: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem;PdsSession=f613d6671340a5aa63325d02e96a?itemId=250972430193cmd=VIDESC Dan Sent from my iPhone -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate it, The best description of the K1 I found was here; www.benzworld.org/forums/w201-190-class/1361737-diy-mercedes-722-3-722-4-a.html The description was exactly on, I did it about 6 weeks ago on my youngest daughter's 190e and after removing and cleaning the valve body. Long story but I ended up replacing the transmission anyway with one from the pick-n-pull and swapping out the valve body again. Apologies to those who dislike top posting :-) David Liddell '77 240d '85 190e Some Volvos Some boats Some Chevrolets -- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:22:15 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades Message-ID: 1322148135.85505.yahoomailclas...@web161012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can anybody be more specific about what you do in the K1 procedure? I'm taking the week after Christmas off and lining up my jobs. Figuring on a trans service with M1. Car has ~175,000 miles with dubious maintenance previously. I had my Indy do the trans fluid and filter 15k ago with just conventional fluid which I'm considering a flush... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?
I have been struggling with this question lately also, especially the last two weekends when I was putting used u-pull transmissions into two different 25+ YO cars to bring the fleet back up to 4 operational vehicles. Currently the fleet is this; 1977 240D 413K mi. My daily driver, probably less than $2000 invested to keep it and it's predecessor '79 240d running since 1995 or so. 1998 Volvo S70 GLT, 180K mi. SWMBO daily driver, total investment of $1900 also, was bought with blown head gasket for $300, Now has blown timing belt (and bent valves) don't know why belt, WP and tensioners are only 20k mi old. 1985 190E 145K miles, Kid 2 daily driver, just bought this year with bad transmission, about $1100 invested, runs and drives, haven't even checked tune yet. 1986 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 165K miles Kid 3 daily driver, probably $700 invested. 1983 Volvo 245 Turbo - Somewhere around 300K miles, standby car, don't know how much invested, probably less than $2000 just did clutch and u-pull OD transmission for net cost of $165 over the weekend. 1989 Chev G20 conversion van 165K miles, has been down for paint and parts replacement for 3 years, was SWMBOs daily before it got rear ended. Probably somewhere around $6000 invested. Other vehicles that will not be roadworthy in the near future are omitted. I have never bought a new car, or one that is less than 3 years old. Most of my former daily drivers go straight to scrap. I don't count consumables in the total investment, (fluids, tires, licensing, taxes etc.) only hard parts I live in the pacific NW so rust from below is not an issue (only rust from above) I have only taken a car to a shop for someone else to work on 3 times in the last 15 years. Jim Cathey inspires me. I have been asking myself if it is worth it, dollar wise, yes timewise I spend alot of time maintaining this fleet but there is no way I could afford to have two kids driving any other way. I don't trust newer cars, I bought the S70 with reservations and it served well for two years, and now I have to pull the damn head again. When to call it a lost cause? If I had a 240D that needed an engine it would probably get crushed, just too expensive. but I will spend $1000 on front end parts on a 123, they can come off and go on the next one. Rust or body work will cause me to scrap them too, don't have the equipment for that. And then there is when everyone in the family refuses to drive something SWMBO has done this but the kids haven't figured out that this is an option. David Liddell Lynnwood, Wa. Cheap, and proud of it. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 8:58 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] A lost cause? I know that many of you are essentially bottom feeders when it comes to vehicles, and I mean no disrespect when I say that as I tend to fall into that category to a great extent myself. The question for you is essentially, when do you call it a lost cause? There has to be a time when a vehicle ceased to be worth putting money into it. How do you decide at what point that happens? I know that some of you firmly believe that a 123 wagon is the state of the art in the auto world etc but beyond that sort of blind devotion, what makes you continue or not continue with a vehicle? My younger son works as a mechanic in a shop that caters to people with more money than brains when it comes to classic vehicles and maybe that causes me to think more about some of this. I have my 76 115 300D and know that whatever I put into it has to be for my enjoyment as I will never make money on it. The same goes for my 02 F150 Supercrew. I really like it and so far it has not cost me a whole lot but it is about 10 years old and has over 150K miles on it so cost must mount over time. I have been thinking about another car but am really reluctant to spend big dollars on something new or even newer so I have this mental dilemma. Am I crazy to get involved in something that will no doubt cause me some grief??? Having re-read what I typed above, I womder if I am getting my point accross? I guess what I am hoping for is a bit of an ongoing thread with opinions by many of you setting forth your own philosophies on this sort of thing. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] W124 minimum rotor thickness
When I got my first 240D the rotors were around 1MM below min. thickness. When the brake lining wore down, the steel base on both sides contacted the steel anti-rattle clip causing severly reduced braking. I have never seen it since. David Liddell (Habitual Lurker) Lynnwood, WA. '77 240d '85 190E -- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:51:49 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 minimum rotor thickness Message-ID: a0624083ecad5d2e867d7@[192.168.1.53] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed You can run on thin rotors as long as there is plenty of meat on the pads. worn pads and worn rotors can lead to a very low pedal. In a vehicle I am used to, I can tell when the pads are low by when the pedal is low. The 200D 2.4 has run on really thin rotors since I first got the car. We just change the pads often. On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 2:31 PM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: There not expensive, just change them. No offense, Rusty, but there are other things I'd rather spend $60 on right now, so if I can put off changing rotors until I have the car up on stands anyway to change to my summer wheels five months from now, I'd rather do that. :) Hence my question whether mine could go a while longer... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer
If that has 5 lug wheels, (1 1/16 X 1 3/8 spindles) the axles are most likely 3500#. If they are 6 lug they will be the 5000# axles. The smaller axle had a 1.980 bearing cap and the larger axle is somewhere around 2.328. David Liddell Lynnwood, WA '77 240d (ugliest yellow you've ever seen) '84 Volvo 245 Turbo '98 Volvo S70 GLT (best $300 car I ever bought) From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of Rich Thomas Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 1:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Opinions on this trailer I have been needing a trailer, see this one. At a pawn shop, girl there says it has a box for brakes, does not know if they work. She thinks it has 5000lb axles (is there anyway to check the load rating?) but some of these things are 7000lb and 1lb. I'm thinking $1500 max, if that. New ones are like $3500, so even if it needs some work... http://charleston.craigslist.org/tls/2054831834.html --R ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Rusty
I saw the blurb on the web site but did not want to bug Tom about it (he did an awesome job on a huge Volvo/Mercedes order of mine this week). Take care, you are still the best. David Liddell Lynnwood, Wa. '86 Volvo 245 turbo '98 Volvo s70 GLT (new project) '77 240d And many more. Message: 1 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:56:40 + From: buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Rusty Message-ID: 1200259260-1272390991-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-5081756...@bda096.bisx.prod.on.blackberry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 This is my first official email sincw - have gone list missing. I contracted avery bad case of cellulitis on 4/10/2009 and was admitted to Saint Joseph's hospital here in Atlanta. On the 11th it had spread into my blood system and I spent the next 8 days ICU on a ventillator. The tube was removed on the 20th but I remained in ICU trying to get the infection controlled. On the evening of the 23rd I flatlined and my wife was called to come directly to ICU. Luckily I survived and have quite some life changes ahead of me. Thanks too all that sent words of in couragement. Rusty Cullens ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Seafoam was Re: diesel fuel supplement
Being from the marine industry, I know of sea-foam but have never used it but one day I decided that I would give my then 79 240d a treatment of OMC engine tuner. It has miraculous results removing carbon from outboard motors of all sizes but when I sprayed it down the intake of my 240d I quickly realized that the engine thought it was fuel... I learned that lesson and have not done a repeat. Works great in my gas powered stuff. Dave Liddell Lynnwood, Wa. 77 240D (engine from the 79 in it still) 84 Volvo 245 Turbo Message: 13 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:53:42 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seafoam was Re: diesel fuel supplement Message-ID: 806071.4979...@web32803.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I've been using Seafoam as a stabilizer too with pretty much the same results you report. I was very pleased this winter when my old Arctic Cat El Tigre started easy after sitting all summer. -Curt Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 10:49:56 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seafoam was Re: diesel fuel supplement Message-ID: ??? f7b6bd1a1001121049i112166del6b2d7ab9c3bd...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Curt wrote: Seafoam is awesome if you've got a stuck needle valve or something. My Honda CB900 has 4 carbs and the needles fairly regularly get stuck, a good dose of Seafoam cures it... I have read some stuff about it. ?You can hook up to the fuel rail through a vacuum line and suck the seafoam directly into the fuel line. ?You only use a little bit while revving the engine. ?Then, you let it idle and the car will stall. ?You let it sit for 10-15 minutes and soak, then start it back up and it really cleans all the crap out. ?Evidently, it will really smoke and spew lots of carbon, etc. On the Isuzu message board at planetisuzoo.com, people swear by that method to clean out the 3.2 liter Isuzu V-6s found in '90s Troopers and Rodeos, which are prone to rough-idle problems due to carbon buildup throughout the engine.? I have been too lazy to try it yet even though I have a '92 Trooper with symptoms of the syndrome.? I did dump some directly in the fuel tank and it seemed to help a little. I also believe Seafoam is an excellent fuel stabilizer, better than Sta-Bil.? I've poured a little in the tanks of all my half-dozen accrued project cars, which rarely get run except to move them around from spot to spot in the pasture next to the shop.? So far I haven't had any of the typical problems you get with old gas in fuel-injected cars---you can't prove a negative, of course, but the Seafoam definitely isn't hurting, whereas I've had old gas with Sta-Bil in it get smelly and make a lawnmower run rough, just like untreated gas that's past its expiration date. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tomatos (was I now have a DC product for my company car)
This is because your summer is stuck up here in the Northwest while ours moved to the Midwest. Dave Liddell Lynnwood, WA '77 240D '84 Ovlov 245 Turbo Message: 11 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:09:15 -0500 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] I now have a DC product for my company car To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 692aec4c-727e-4492-92f8-995dde0ba...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed We are quite late on tomatoes this year as well -- just starting to ripen. It is the cool weather -- we've barely hit 90 this summer, and it's rained at least once a week, again very unusual. Normally I'm not mowing every week by this time, and give up altogether about now since the grass is brown, and instead I'm mowing 4 of growth a week, at least. The weeks are having a field day, of course, and my melons are just now starting to get going well. Peter -- Message: 12 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 22:23:18 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I now have a DC product for my company car To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: ebd25ccb3e764e3dbd00012f20e1a...@wiltonpc Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I lived 4 years in the UP; 'didn't have any HOT weather while I was there. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I now have a DC product for my company car andrew strasfogel wrote: You sound bitter. BTW, is anybody else WAY late in their tomato crop this year? I was a bit late in planting. Started seeing tomatoes four weeks ago. Not a single one ripe enough to eat yet, but I've got some golden girls starting to change color. All I've harvested so far are some 'garden salsa' chili peppers, those were bearing good fruit 2-3 weeks ago and still going strong. I've got great tomato plants, the mortgage lifters are 4' high, but zero fruit so far. We have had no truly hot weather yet in Michigan this year, I think that has something to do with it. I'm going 2-3 weeks between lawn mowings, just like it was October already. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 45, Issue 20
I have to chime in on this one, On my last 240D somewhere around 2001 I started getting water in the passenger rear footwell, a tip from the MBZ list lead me to check the firewall behind the battery and the drain by the right hood hinge. The drain was plugged and the firewall was corroded through. I pop riveted some galvanized sheet metal to the hole and sealed it with 3M 5200 (marine polyurethane sealant) and it never leaked again. Dave Liddell '77 240D '84 Ovlov 245 turbo Message: 13 Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:26:07 + From: Rhonald Angelo rhonald_ange...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D Water leakage To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: bay144-w3a69eaed68d6c274e259786...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey Wilton, I have not checked yet...but the headliner appears dry. I can check this evening. As for the rest of the possible places...and the other great responses (thanks) I have gotten in re to this issue. I also remembered to check my binder I created when I first got the car and joined the list. I found some posts from 2002 about the drain around the ac evaporator. The AC does not work and has not for years. Here is what I am thinking...I am willing to drive as far as NYC and to Richmond VA and anywhere in between...to connect with somebody who can show me all these areas and give me some guidance on where all this stuff is, shouldn't I be able to fix some of this myself? What I cannot fix, I want to be able to tell the guys at the shop exactly where to go and what to replace. Who lives within this 400 mile radius of Washington, DC? Thanks Rhonald 1985 300D 314,000 miles black/palamino Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:19:44 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D Water leakage Have you blown out the sunroof drains? Check the headliner - could be dripping down from there due to clogged drains. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:19 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Had this problem with my 81 300D years ago; found opening in rear fender well where inside of quarter meets inner fender and is supposed to be sealed. In motion in the rain, water was being slung/pumped into rear footwell by rear wheel, and a LOT of it can get in fast. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rhonald Angelo rhonald_ange...@hotmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 6:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] 300D Water leakage On Sunday morning, about 3 a.m. we got a downpour in the Washington, DC area. Later that morning, when I went outside, I just decided to check the area behind the drivers seat...Ias I noticed a bit of water before...back in late June when there was so much rain. This time I had about 3 inches of water. On the way to suck out the water with a vac, you could hear it sloshing around..like being in a boat. WHERE is this water coming from? The hood drain holes are clear. THere is no water under the mat in front, and nothing in the front or back on the passenger side. The trunk is dry. I had the rear drivers door cover off some years ago to repair the hinge, and read it you don't put it back precisely, water cdan get in, but the guys at my repair shop say that has nothing to do with it. I had the front and back window sealed when a bit of water was seeping in during hard rain at high speed. I was not driving in the rain on Sunday; I got back from Richmond before it began raining. I don't know where to look. Thanks Rhonald 1095 300D 314,000 miles black/palamino _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090803/e376c2c6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 42, Issue 146
In the marine industry it is even worse, There is a good chance that the boater will get his engine started and head to the lake in early spring and the combination of cool, dense air and low octane from moisture in the fuel did a great job detonating and melting pistons. For the last 10 years my advise was to drain the fuel if the boat was to sit more than 90 days, and leave it empty until you are ready to use it again. I had constant flak from people who were told to leave their tanks full to reduce condisation over the winter, to which I replied You do have a water separating fuel filter don't you? Dave Liddell Lynnwood, WA. '77 240d (front end done, now working on other end '84 Ovlov 245 Turbo (stand-by car) Message: 12 Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:41:04 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 609623.55749...@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is nothing new - the RV business used to be a gold mine for us (we don't do RVs anymore - thank G-d!) because people would just park them over the winter and the carbs on the generators would get all gunked up when the gas evaporated from the carb bowl. It was like a migration - I'm sure the boating community sees the same thing - as soon as the weather started to get nice in the spring, the RVs would be lining up to see us. While I still use my lawn tractor year 'round, I installed a shutoff valve on the fuel line to the carb so I can shut off the fuel supply and run it dry between seasons. Dan --- On Wed, 5/27/09, pm7...@comcast.net pm7...@comcast.net wrote: From: pm7...@comcast.net pm7...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 11:37 AM My Connecticut lawnmower repair guy tells me he's sending his kid to school with the money made on plugged destroyed carbs on small engines that sit 6 months. Several manufacturers specificly do not warrantee such damage. He now suggests that you run them dry as the risk is less that leaving the bowl full of 90% fuel. -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:05:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol We get 10% ethanol in all our gas here in New England. Its been that way for 3 or 4 years now. I've never noticed much difference, except: Snowmobiles tend to accumulate moisture in the gas no matter what you do which makes some sense if you consider the environment they exist in. 2 years ago I had a terrible problem with a brown sugar like substance accumulating in the fuel filters and carbs. Last winter I put 2oz of SeaFoam per gallon of gas in every snowmobile I owned every time I added gas no exceptions and had zero issues. I imagine boaters have similar problems and might be helped with a similar strategy or by draining all the gas every time they put the boat up for a couple days. That'd be easier in a 4 stroke boat than a 2 stroke snowmobile since you could put the gas in the car with no worries. -Curt Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 08:41:31 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: [MBZ] Ethanol To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4a1d34fb.6050...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Daughter found this article, quite interesting. Are any of the newer Benzes flex fuel? Would increased ethanol content have any adverse effects on newer (or older for that matter) engines/fuel systems? I know around here the boaters are having fits with ethanol-laced fuels as it absorbs water and causes problems in boat motors and systems. In Texas the fuel around Houston had 10% ethanol to help the local air quality, outside of the metro area it didn't have that much. Here in Charleston I think it has some but not 10%. http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/may2009/bw20090514_058678.htm --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing coil springs, 300D
I am nearly finished rebuilding the front end on my '77 240d and, yes it can be done by someone with some mechanical ability but GET THE CORRECT SPRING COMPRESSOR. I used a cheap Chinese set and I would not recommend that for any sane person, it added hours to the job and made it much more dangerous. I've done lots of front end work over the years but have never worked on anything engineered like the 123, the castings alone are things of beauty. Dave Liddell '77 240D (now working on rear suspension) '84 Volvo 245 turbo -- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 05:41:24 -0700 (PDT) From: P. Prud'homme pa...@yahoo.com Subject: [MBZ] Replacing coil springs, 300D To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 314608.61262...@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, Has anyone replaced coil springs once? I am trying to see if I could do it myself on a 300D, 1981. Not too long ago, I replaced the shocks with Bilstein's but it won't do it, the car is still too much like a boat, especially on the interstate. Thank you. --PT, 300D 1981 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560SEL water pump suggestion
Yea, those tillotson lower nuts are tough, I have a 1/4 drive 7/16 Snap-On universal socket I bought just for those. oops, Wrong Merc content. Dave Liddell '77 240D (Complete front suspension rebuild in process) '84 Ovlov Turbo Wagon Message: 5 Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:08:00 -0500 From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 560SEL water pump suggestion To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: mailman.590.1240931297.11481.mercedes_okiebenz@okiebenz.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed That occurred to me last night, I will try that next. I should have thought of it earlier, the only way I was able to remove the carbs from my Merc 850 last fall was via a 1/4 socket set. I'll have to see if I have a 13mm in that size, though. (The stuff I assembled for the Merc's toolkit is all SAE.) If the bolt indeed will not come out the slot in the dampener then that won't ultimately help much, though. Looks to me like the engine was originally intended for a smaller dampener, then they had to grow it somewhere along the line which hosed the water pump arrangements but good. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Temptations...
I used to have this '89 Astro van and one day my wife drove into the side of a S-10 with it, totaling the s-10. The van front end looked like hell but we had no money and only liability insurance, it was perfectly driveable so we didn't fix it. About 1.5 years later I ran across all the parts to get it looking right again, and they were even the right color (not a surprise there, most of them were gray or white mine was gray) so I installed all of the parts and did not tell the wife. She never noticed, I had to tell her two days later, WHILE LEANING ON THE FRONT GRILLE. Dave Liddell '77 240d '84 245 Ovlov Turbo Wagon Message: 3 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:10:28 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Temptations... To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 9e0329d0-1ed7-11de-b8df-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed The ruse continues to work. Not only did she pass it this morning on her way out, with me in it and working on the seat belt, but when she came back I was still in it. I invited her to sit inside with me. It was even running. She still thinks it's the SDL. She: Did you remember what was wrong with it? Me: Oh, I'm figuring it out. I'm a-gonna pay for this one! :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo
Thats just the speed sensor for the cruise control. dave '77 240d '84 245 TurboBrick Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:06:06 +1200 From: Euan goneb...@paradise.net.nz Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 49c20afe.4010...@paradise.net.nz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Doesn't resemble anything attached to my speedo, Andrew Euan I found it on ebay! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-w123-Speedometer-Sender-300d-240d-280d-300td_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQitemZ120369676676QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_3210wt_828 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] jim Cathey needs
Count me in for $25. Dave Liddell Lynnwood, Wa. '77 240D (stripped to bare front control arms) '84 Ovlov 245 Turbo Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:17:28 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] jim Cathey needs To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: b8cdcef40903180917u7bf75f8dy8af8ae1be571b...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Jim has been super helpful over the years. Let's take up a collection. I could spring for $25 if we could get 40 others to contribute commensurately. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: http://www.washington.edu/facilities/transportation/movingandsurplus/ inventory/item/miscroscope-and-stand Would be great for getting a better look at the bits wanting resolder That does look intriguing, but the budget is a bit tight at the moment! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] list S/N ratio
There is a link from buymb to this list, that is how I found you all. When MBZ went down, I went to buymb and registered, I'm not good when the forums don't come to me, so eventually I quit going to it. Last year I revisited it and found a link or reference to this list and immediatly came here and found out where you all were hanging out for the past few years. I lurked there, now I lurk here. David Liddell Lynnwood, WA '77 240D '84 Volvo 245 Turbo - Original Message - Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:36:22 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] list S/N ratio To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 49b901c6.2030...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed no, but there needs to be a link to this list from bimby Gary Hurst wrote: you want to do anything with that forum? does anyone? On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: WOw, I am a mod on the bimby site, but even I did not know it was still around. Rick Knoble wrote: while we're on that topic, does anyone know a list where the actual technical content relevant to MBZ Diesels might be as useful as what we share here, but without as much extraneous blathering? http://www.buymbparts.com/forum/index.php http://mbca.cartama.net/index.php? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Serious injuries only please
I just love these. http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/1033154745.html Dave Liddell '77 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keep getting gelled
I remember Marshall recommending this too, but only for engines that do not see full temp, highway driving. I believe that he recommended 10w oil only and really reamed one guy when he substituted ATF for 10w motor oil. I used to do this on my 190d, since it was really worn out. I think I did it once on my '79 240D engine after it sat in my driveway for 3 years waiting to get transplanted in my current '77 240D back to lurking Dave Liddell '77 240D Lynnwood, WA -- Message: 10 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:41:31 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keep getting gelled To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 351936.89923...@web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Carbon buildup means you don't drive enough or you drive too slow... Marshall said a quart once a year as a tonic wouldn't hurt anything and might actually (in conjunction with italian tune up style driving) could help with carbon buildup because it would burn hotter than diesel fuel. He also noted that there might be a loss (which I've detected) in fuel economy while using it. I've noted a small reduction in engine noise while using motor oil (at one point I used maybe 10% motor oil because I found a source for $0.25/qt) but it goes away quickly upon return to straight diesel. I'm talking about as a tonic here. If I were using it as a fuel lubrication enhancer I'd talk about a lot less oil, more like a pint per tank. Probably wouldn't hurt anything, probably wouldn't help anything either... -Curt Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:50:54 -0800 From: tyler casi...@usermail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keep getting gelled To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 499220ee.7080...@usermail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I don't remember Marshall recommending anything like that either. What good is it supposed to do? Seems like it would just contribute to carbon buildup, and old MB diesels burn enough engine oil as it is! Tyler ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Motor Oil as a tonic Per FM Booth
My memory decieved me, it was not 10w oil it was 10w 30. Here it is from the old man himself; Dave Liddell '77 240D Lynnwood, WA. Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:12:50 -0400 From: Marshall Booth mboo...@pitt.edu Subject: Re: [DIESEL] acceleration test Well, Diesel Purge isn't very potent if you run it through in a tank of fuel (even two bottles in a tank). It was designed to be run through the engine straight (disconnecting the hoses and running on JUST DP with the supply and return hoses in the DP bottle). If the engine starts instantly sometimes and take several turns sometimes, then fuel is slow getting to the engine properly. That could be the injection pump misbehaving (not likely, but possible) or an injector or two that are less then optimal. It COULD be several other things too, but a really clean engine running on synthetic oil seldom behaves this way except from a fuel problem. If you use conventional oil, then I'd recommend that you change to synthetic and see if that makes a difference especially in how fast the engine cranks over and starts. This will take many thousands of miles for all the benefits to max out, but it's improved every one of my engines more then ANY other thing I've ever done to them (other the replacing BROKEN parts or connecting things that were disconnected or plugged up). There is ONE final CHEAP trick I use when nothing else seems to work (and it DOES work more the 50% of the time) and I've run out of inexpensive ideas. Put a qt of 10W30 conventional motor oil in the fuel tank and drive the car (hard at least a little of the time). The engine should seem quite smooth, but ever slightly lower in power with the oil in the fuel. When the tank is nearly empty refill with just #2 and see if the engine doesn't have more power and is smoother then before and usually starts faster? Marshall - -- Marshall Booth der Dieseling Doktor mboo...@pitt.edu '87 300TD 150Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 205Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 224Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 154Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 200+kmi, '84 190D 2.2 234Kmi dismantled Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] your future transportation
Didn't Jeremy on Top Gear refer to those as Smugmobiles? Dave Liddell Lynnwood, WA '77 240D (piss yellow) Message: 7 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:53:18 + From: Jeff Zedic Subject: Re: [MBZ] Your future transportation To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Have a look at what I see every day here in London. http://www.goingreen.co.uk/store Zedic -- ___ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090114/0ae260d7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] test
test, do I pass? dave -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081227/04549c3d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
