Re: [MBZ] Scam? -- 1958 Mercedes-Benz 190SL - $29,000

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On 2024-04-22 14:09, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Price seems very low

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-beach-1958-mercedes-benz/7738997145.html


Bought on BAT, don't have room to store it, my loss is your gain!
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-mercedes-benz-190sl-25/

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Re: [MBZ] The Mercedes 500E Is the Greatest Benz Porsche Ever Built

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On 2024-04-13 10:23, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
I used Firefox browser and there is a "reader view" button that usually 
bypasses the paywall and just shows text on a page, it works for this


Thanks for that, I never knew what Reader View was.
View-Enter Reader View, or F9.

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Re: [MBZ] The Mercedes 500E Is the Greatest Benz Porsche Ever Built

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On 2024-04-13 00:53, OK DonN via Mercedes wrote:

OK - the text:




Thanks.

-Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Solar

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On 2024-04-02 20:04, Craig via Mercedes wrote:


$160.00
--- = $ 0.32 / Watt, which is really cheap.
 500 W


I wouldn't pay $160 for a used 340W sans warranty, but for 500W you're 
getting somewhere.


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Re: [MBZ] 99 210 with 1234 shfiter stuck in park

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On 2024-03-31 11:57, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
The solenoid is on the right side near the bottom of the shifter 
assembly as I recall. I don’t recall being able to get to it from in 
the car, but maybe you can. I just checked mine out when I knew it 
wasn’t working to see what was involved and to confirm that it was, in 
fact, dead.


That spring that I circled in the pic earlier, I can push down on 
whatever it's pulling up against, but nothing changes. I'm thinking the 
problem is with the PLIL and nothing short of going under the car to 
unlock the transmission is going to get it rolling.


I've got the left side jacked up and dirt shoveled under the tires.
I'm about ready to do the same to the right side, blow up the tires 
(left rear has a bead leak, left front holds, haven't touched the right 
yet) and drag it out of there, probably with one tire spinning the wrong 
way while the other tires roll.


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Re: [MBZ] 99 210 with 1234 shfiter stuck in park

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On 2024-03-31 11:16, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
Mine is a newer facelift model, but I couldn't shift out of park one 
time. My issue was the brake light switch. There are two sets of 
contacts in it, one for the lights, and one as an input to the 
computer.  Also there is a manual override to get it out of park. Mine 
is a 2000 so this may not apply. Still doesn't explain your no crank 
situation though.


It's cranking now, but no fire and no shift.
The fact that I don't hear a fuel pump probably has something to do with 
the no fire.

Just started cranking after I left the battery hooked up for a while.

I think the 2000+ 210s have the +/- sideways shifter not the 1234 
shifter.
The +/- in my ML has the slot for the override without taking anything 
apart.


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Re: [MBZ] 99 210 with 1234 shfiter stuck in park

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On 2024-03-31 10:42, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
It’s been a while but it’s down in there somewhere. I don’t think it’s 
designed to manually move it, since it doesn’t have a which release 
deal like later cars but you can, as far as I recall. Seemed like it 
was buried toward the bottom of one side or the other.


Thanks.
And with no battery in the car to energize any possible solenoids, you 
just force the thing to move and pull the shifter back?


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Re: [MBZ] 99 210 with 1234 shfiter stuck in park

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On 2024-03-31 10:31, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
On the 210 if you remove the wood panel you can manually take a screw 
driver and pry the leaver back that locks it.


That's why I was hoping junkyard Kleb would chime in.
Wood off already, where is this lever?

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Re: [MBZ] 99 210 with 1234 shfiter stuck in park

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On 2024-03-31 10:16, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
Looks like the W210 is one that doesn’t have the release on the shifter 
like other models. However, some really good info on various aspects of 
the situation here:






Thanks, Dan.
That was the link I was fruitlessly looking for yesterday.

The PLIL is near the bottom left rear of the trans.
https://www.benzworld.org/attachments/shiftparts722_6-pdf.852042/

I currently have the left side of the car jacked up, but not far enough 
to crawl under in the mud. (the tires sunk into the mud and I'm trying 
to lift the car out of the holes it's in before moving it)


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Re: [MBZ] 99 210 with 1234 shfiter stuck in park

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On 2024-03-31 08:23, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Couple things here:

There is a release for the shifter you can trip using a small 
screwdriver or a pen, as I recall.


My ML has that, a little door at the rear/bottom of the pattern 
indicators.

There's no door like that at the 1234D indicator on my 99E320 and 97S420



The W210 shifter uses a lockout solenoid to than prevent shifting out 
of park. It can get sticky or even fail, however, as I recall, whne it 
fails it fails open, meaning you can move the shifter to whereever you 
like regardless of the car’s mode. My 98 W210 wagon was like this, and 
I found that the solenoid is not a service part, you have to replace 
the whole shifter assembly. Nope!


Wouldn't that mean you could always shift out of P without a battery in 
the car?
I think there's also a mechanical cable linkage to the brake pedal like 
on a W202 C-class. If so, I suspect that cable is where my problem lies. 
For now, I need to move it 60 on (wet right now) grass. Dragging it in P 
is a last resort.


Unfortunately I  seem to have misplaced the operators manual for the 99 
wagon, but the 97 W140 manual makes no mention of overriding the parking 
lock. Nor do any of the non-operating manuals for the 99 wagon. I wish I 
had the 99 manual handy, I know it explained towing mode, but IIRC all 
towing mode did was turn off the 4matic braking on rolling wheels.


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Re: [MBZ] 99 210 with 1234 shfiter stuck in park

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I forgot to mention, after leaving the battery in it for an hour, it 
cranked nicely.

No fire, no shift, but it cranks now, which it refused to do at first.

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Re: [MBZ] 99 210 with 1234 shfiter stuck in park

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On 2024-03-30 20:47, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
Probably the shifter module. Common problem. Have you scanned it for 
faults?


No, but IIRC there's a cable running to these older 722.6 shifters from 
the brake pedal.
I'd just like to know where the override is so I can move the darn thing 
to the garage.
On the later shifters, there's a little door to stick a 
pen/screwdriver/key in.


On the 1234D shifter I don't see any override, even after I pull the 
wood off.

I bet Kleb knows, but it seems he's not here this weekend.

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[MBZ] 99 210 with 1234 shfiter stuck in park

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I need to move my 99 wagon.
So I put a battery in it, turned the key to run, put my foot on the 
brake, and it wouldn't leave Park. Also wouldn't try to crank. Took the 
battery out after a few minutes, checked it before putting it on a 
charger and it was at 12.7V, so I'd think it's charged. Maybe a loose 
connection with the battery cables just shoved in place?


Anyway, must the engine be running to shift normally?
If I can't get it to shift normally, how do I override the lock?

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Re: [MBZ] 1986 190E 2.3 16V Cosworth

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On 2024-02-27 12:06, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Small cars that scream with the stick. Fun times.  By today’s
standards not particularly high performance but 40yr ago these were
the nuts.


A tree bit my 1986 16v last fall.
More depressing than a moose biting your sister.

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Re: [MBZ] Changing Oil on My W163

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On 2024-01-19 13:57, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
Is a vacuum pump (marketed for AC use) substantial enough? I have one 
of those already and it might sway me to do a DIY one to start with.



AC pump will work, but it's low volume (slow) and high power (anything 
less substantial than a BBQ propane tank and the pump can suck it flat 
if there's a blockage).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz95_VvTxZM

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Re: [MBZ] New Tools from Harbor Freight

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On 2024-01-17 17:58, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote:

Hmmm - I'm not sure how that name is being sent, but this is OK Don.


Your old email was named OK Don.
Your proton mail is named MB list etc.

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Re: [MBZ] body in good condition no russ - 2006 CLK350

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On 2024-01-16 23:22, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
Looks nice. 200kmi makes me wonder if the engine is not a bad example. 
Who knows what “tune-up” means.


Could mean 'two out of six coil packs died', or could mean 'balance 
shaft gears are shredded'.


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Re: [MBZ] I am watching a utuber vid

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On 2024-01-16 23:24, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

You have a fan club already. Look at this screenshot.




Robert Nutson? No "K"?

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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

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On 2024-01-16 18:05, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

BTX14 appears to be the size of the battery case.


BTX has the positive terminal on your right when the terminals are 
facing you.

The factory part seems to have it on your left.
Is YTX14 the same size with reversed terminals?

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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

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That's the 2x2x4" battery I found this morning for $50s OE or teens from 
whoflungdung.


The FPC link was MUCH larger. If I had the $170 size, I'd definitely 
measure it and find out what the generic battery model was.


On 2024-01-16 10:17, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

That's a good deal

--FT

On 1/16/24 9:55 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
Thanks for mentioning this. I recalled that I saw this message a 
couple of times when working on Mrs. Dan’s 2003 E320 a few weeks ago, 
so I guess it’s time to replace it.


Just ordered a replacement from the dealer. About $50, my cost. 
Details won’t show up online because they won’t sell batteries online. 
4039 is the part number.



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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

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On 2024-01-16 00:03, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

The aux battery is getting weak. Time to replace it


Are they only one amp hour?

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-4039-Mercedes-00-Battery/dp/B007XRBCAK/

Does it matter if the terminals are reversed, or are the cables long 
enough to swap polarity?


https://www.amazon.com/CA1212-Casil-Rechargeable-Sealed-Battery/dp/B07TD9LKTH/

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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

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The deeper the better, if you go deep enough the temp should approximate 
the annual average air temp. But unless your loop is infinitely large, 
the heat pump will cool the earth in the winter and warm it in the 
summer if you use AC.


I had neighbors install a groundwater system with a hot well and a cold 
well. In the summer they pump water from the cold well, run it through 
the heat pump and dump it in the hot well. In the winter they'd reverse 
the flow. I was always worried that they'd have a cracked heat exchanger 
and ruin my drinking water aquifer with refrigerant and compressor oil.


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Re: [MBZ] I figured out why the 642 was so hard to start, surprised it even started

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One time in the 1980s my dad's Cutlass Ciera 4.3 gelled up, the steel 
line under the floor I think. Dad blamed the supercooled water from the 
salted roads splashing the underbody. Had it towed to a shop and they 
thawed it out indoors. I assume they put some treatment in the tank too.


Another time I was housesitting and the summer fuel in the Belarus acted 
up, I had to put a Reddy Heater under it for an hour to get it going so 
I could plow the driveway.
Parking it outdoors next to the house may have contributed to the 
problem, but at least it was near a source of electricity.


On 2024-01-15 19:56, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
I was thinking about this very subject the other day, I've had it 
happen 3 times. Once in a 190D I hauled north from New Jersey that 
probably hadn't been driven since summer. Once with the VWs when we had 
a cold snap and the fuel hadn't been treated properly (Cumberland Farms 
gave me a free tank of fuel on that one) and once when the Tucker had 
either bad fuel or water in the bottom of the tank.



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Re: [MBZ] It was down to -1 at Okie acres, current temp 2, decided to see which diesels would start and which would not

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On 2024-01-14 16:34, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I’m not sure what the deal is with the 642. I would have thought it 
would have started right up. Maybe it was the oil, maybe the battery is 
old. Maybe the glow plugs are encased in carbon.



I'm thinking plugs.
The battery sounded pretty good to me, given the total cranking time in 
the video.


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Re: [MBZ] It was down to -1 at Okie acres, current temp 2, decided to see which diesels would start and which would not

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The 83 makes me glad my 79 has a hand throttle.

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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

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On 2024-01-14 13:57, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
A few years ago I looked around online at Goodman 5 ton heat pumps and 
IIRC they were less than 2k for the inside and outside unit. Now days 
they are double or triple that.


Looks like the stuff I bought, from the place I bought it (I had good 
luck there, I think they pissed Floyd off later) is showing about 2/3 
more for slightly updated parts.

ECM blower in furnace, 14 SEER instead of 13 SEER for the heat pump.
I guess that's not horrible considering the inflation in the last 
decade.


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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

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On 2024-01-14 13:48, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I don't consider a heat pump to be a good primary heating system 
because they don't last all that long. The boiler in our house is at 
least 20 years old (probably more like 30) and still going strong, heat 
pumps would have to have been replaced at least once already.


I bought my furnace in 2012, heat pump in 2013.
Both basic contractor grade Goodman.
Installed them myself, still going strong.
Wouldn't be surprised if they last another ten years.
I think I paid $845 for the furnace and around $1200 all told for the 
heat pump, copper lines, and indoor coil.

Can't replace them for that today though.

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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

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I wonder if you could buy the components and a good used excavator for 
less than the installed price.


A friend of mine has a KX-015, I never knew it was only 13hp.
He has a thumb on the bucket and has used it to lift fallen trees.

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Re: [MBZ] Slightly O.T. A 912 Owned by a Hallucinating Stacc

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Holy cow, I can imagine a XKE touching 100k, but $200k exceeds my 
wildest imagination.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-jaguar-xke-roadster-48/

$26k is pretty good for a R107, but not batshit crazy.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988-mercedes-benz-560sl-405/

On 2024-01-14 12:44, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

Locally I saw an ad for a similar 912, rust spots, etc, project car.
The seller wanted $5k for it, in the 1980s.
It was worth a lot less back then, but it would have been much cheaper 
to fix and paint back then too. But $5k in 198x dollars sounds way 
better than $45k in 2024 dollars.
Another project I can remember seeing, priced like a new economy car, 
was a $6500 XKE.


Meanwhile, good nationwide classifieds, like Autoweek, would have 
things like $9000 Citroen SMs and Apollo 3500GTs in allegedly good 
nick. I still lust after SMs and Apollos more than I do 911/912s.



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Re: [MBZ] Slightly O.T. A 912 Owned by a Hallucinating Stacc

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Locally I saw an ad for a similar 912, rust spots, etc, project car.
The seller wanted $5k for it, in the 1980s.
It was worth a lot less back then, but it would have been much cheaper 
to fix and paint back then too. But $5k in 198x dollars sounds way 
better than $45k in 2024 dollars.
Another project I can remember seeing, priced like a new economy car, 
was a $6500 XKE.


Meanwhile, good nationwide classifieds, like Autoweek, would have things 
like $9000 Citroen SMs and Apollo 3500GTs in allegedly good nick. I 
still lust after SMs and Apollos more than I do 911/912s.


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Re: [MBZ] Who doesn't like a good light show?

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My 2016 Cruze (RIP, #1 piston) would randomly fill the 8" touchscreen 
with a wall of text. The wall of text said, in essence, reading this 
screen while driving is dangerous. Then you have to find and press the 
"OK" button displayed after all the text, that they put on the screen to 
inform you it's dangerous to read what they put on the screen.


I suspect the on dash phone holders are intended to help you use 
internet maps on the phone in place of a dedicated GPS.


On 2024-01-14 10:32, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:


Someone explain in simple terms how such EV displays, which take the
drivers attention off the road, do NOT present "Distracted Driving" and
place others at grave risk of injury?


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[MBZ] Who doesn't like a good light show?

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Yuck.

https://archive.is/YXbNL

The Mercedes EQS SUV offers a symphony of interior lighting that pulses 
when the accelerator is pressed. - Photo Courtesy of Mercedes


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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

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On 2024-01-13 16:06, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
They have but they still crap out in real cold. I'd definitely want to 
have a wood stove or other backup heat source if I had to have a heat 
pump.


Except for mini splits, every installation I've see has an integrated 
backup.

Either resistance heat strips like Kaleb's, or propane/gas like mine.

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Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

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Hey! This is a loading zone. You can't park here!
We're not parking it. We're abandoning it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GPNuZ1SaSI


On 2024-01-12 13:13, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
When my dad was at Harvard he got so sick of driving in Boston that one 
day he just parked on some side street and walked away. He never heard 
anything more about it and had no idea what happened to the car.




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Re: [MBZ] 2005 ML 350 - 169k miles - $3,900

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Sounds about right.
All W163s had the M112/M113 series engines.
The M112 350s are 3.7L, the M272 350s are 3.5L.

On 2024-01-12 23:08, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

2006 i think

--FT
Sent from iFōn

On Jan 12, 2024, at 10:36 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:


When did they switch the ML350 to the M272 engine?



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Re: [MBZ] OT Torpedo Tender

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Are we talking about the thing that looks like it has a couple of white 
pickup truck bed toppers on it?


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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

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The new outdoor unit probably has a bigger coil and will make heat at a 
lower temp than the old one.


If it's a "17 seer" unit, I'd expect a good bit less than that without a 
matching air handler/indoor coil. What's the HSPF on the outdoor unit, 
is it ten or better?


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Re: [MBZ] 2007 SL550 - 74k miles - $19,900

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50th Anniversary? Is that worth extra money, like a R129 Silver Arrow?
And if the 300SL came out in 1955, how is 50th Anniversary a 2007? Was 
'57 the first ragtop?


On 2024-01-09 22:30, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Nice looking interior. Exterior is ho-hum.

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-2007-mercedes-sl550/7705989075.html


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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

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So it cranked slower and slower until finally "clunk".
That sounds like the probably didn't have enough energy to cause further 
damage.


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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

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On 2024-01-09 12:22, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Is this an interference engine?



Fortunately I don't think he ever started it before it stopped spinning 
freely.
I don't know how much valve damage, if any, you'd get if the chain 
failed at cranking speed.


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Re: [MBZ] For Poos somewhat ratty but right spec -- 2001 Mercedes-Benz slk-class SLK 320 Roadster 2D, $3, 500

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Wow, Poos wasn't kidding about R170 interior plastic.

A $1500 Gator wouldn't last 15 minutes up north.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/677786129973238

On 2024-01-09 10:29, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
In Nowhere Backwoods Flahduh Stars and Bars seller 6 speed manual might 
clean up nicely


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1334951467164725


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone interested in a 2018 Porch Cayenne 95kmi

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I guess I'd rather have a $7500 Z4.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1068488064487140/

On 2024-01-09 10:40, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
haha yeah maybe but she did not take my advice anyway so not my worry. 
Plus it is a Macan not a Cayenne as I thought it was.


SHE DONT NO WHAT SHE GOT

In any case she is dreaming with her ask but who knows, maybe there is 
some fool out there who will want to pay her for it


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1049890219622102



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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

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On 2024-01-09 01:18, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I pulled all the plugs no joy. Next is cam covers.


Are the valve covers easier than the starter?

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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

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On 2024-01-08 20:32, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I was able to spin the engine backwards a bit but going forward it hit 
a hard stop. Interestingly the timing marks on the crank pulley has 
0deg right on top. Not sure if that means anything.


Hydrolock #1?
Dropped valve?

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Re: [MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

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I'd take off the new/used starter and try to turn the engine over before 
writing it off.

Mitch.

On 2024-01-08 15:49, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
As it turns out the engine in this car is out of the bad range for M272 
350 engines. 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: This Company Plans To Make Diesel-Electric Conversion Kits for Old Pickups

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On 2024-01-06 14:55, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

You'll still be able to roll coal with your EV truck!

https://www.thedrive.com/news/diesel-electric-semi-maker-edison-wants-to-sell-pickup-truck-conversion-kits


60-90kWh seems like a huge battery for a hybrid.

If you get 2 miles per kWh that's over 100 miles on battery.

With a diesel engine, I'd rather pay for (and carry the weight of) a 
20kWh battery.


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Re: [MBZ] Own - $5,200 (Lexington) 2025 Mercedes-Benz

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On 2024-01-06 14:45, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:57:29 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
 wrote:


2025?


That's what the box under the map says, which, of course is not true.



W163, so I'm guessing 2005, which would make it the newest of the W163s.

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Re: [MBZ] One for RR -- 2004 Mercedes-Benz m-class ML 350 Sport Utility 4D, $4, 800

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On 2023-12-31 16:03, Craig via Mercedes wrote:


Make sure you have two keys to the ML; you keep one and your wife keeps
one. That saved our bacon once when we were on our 2018 road trip.



My 2003 ML350 has metal (switchblade) keys, I'm sure his 2004 does also.
If there's only one key/fob, try to find a place that can cut you a 
spare blade.


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Re: [MBZ] 2004 W211 4-matic oddities

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On 2023-12-27 22:08, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Are all four tires the same size and brand?


IIRC, setting off the 4Matic traction nannies results in a blinking 
yellow triangle with an exclamation point inside it.
But normally, a tire size discrepancy just gets you the blinking 
triangle shortly after you start driving, and disabled traction control. 
Possibly an ABS warning and disabling too.


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Re: [MBZ] Tempting SL 500 on BAT

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Doesn't Floyd have one of these?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1996-mercedes-benz-sl600-26/

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Re: [MBZ] 1996 E320

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On 2023-12-27 13:36, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

What is a "hard key"?


Something you stick in a lock and turn.
My 1999 S210 has one that slides out of the smart key.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: weren't these race cars intended for oval courses?

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MBZ content from the Classic Center:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMa3_tT5mKA

On 2023-12-27 12:52, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

We're going to party like it's 1909...but we'll use modern helmets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGNIMNy7BtU


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[MBZ] OT: weren't these race cars intended for oval courses?

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We're going to party like it's 1909...but we'll use modern helmets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGNIMNy7BtU

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ain't this sumpin -- 1985 Baker-Zaiker 1 of 12, $30, 000

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The Clarkson thing looks like a 40 year American car, but in reality 
it's a

Mitsuoka Le-Seyde.
That's Mitsuoka, as in Viewt.

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Re: [MBZ] Quite a storm today

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On 2023-12-17 17:27, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I will say lots of cruise ships didn’t get to dock at their ports and 
seas were rough, so I read.


Today's Lake Michigan forecast had 50mph winds and 15-20' waves.
Not a good day for pleasure boating, but the Edmund Fitgerald's sisters 
probably don't care too much.


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Re: [MBZ] OT would this be a good way to kill myself? Subaru Engine gyrocopter, $10, 000

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50-60 years ago, Mechanix Illustrated and Popular Science gave me the 
idea that autogyros were very safe compared to helicopters. (have HQ 
send Little Nellie, and request that her uncle accompany her)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wallis

So I was surprised to hear of this one, which appears to have been a 
full on stall into the dirt:

https://www.wcvb.com/article/beverly-massachusetts-gyroplane-crash-december-5-pilot-dies/42149904

This one, well any heavier than air craft is going down if the 'wing' 
comes off.

https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/accident/2022/09/08/ntsb-reports-preliminary-cause-fatal-gyroplane-crash-clay-county-florida/8009706001/

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Re: [MBZ] OT Ain't this sumpin -- 1985 Baker-Zaiker 1 of 12, $30, 000

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On 2023-12-16 10:23, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Dad's pride and joy

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/863682232111851


I assume one of these would be worth more, but likewise a very limited 
audience.

Far more limited than the Avanti audience (also Studebaker content).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1984_Excalibur_Series_IV_Phaeton_(5409795985).jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excalibur_%28automobile%29

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Re: [MBZ] Cheepcheep EV or old Benz? YOU DECIDE!!! Sky-high hybrid battery bill shocks Arizona man

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On 2023-12-11 18:45, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Not practical for EVs currently in the US you mean...


The only thing I can think of is hoist the car and stuff a battery in 
from the bottom.
It'd still increase the overall weight of the vehicle noticeably. Both 
from not having the lowest part of the car as permanent structure and 
from needing to make the battery structurally sound on its own.


But if anybody actually did this there would be hot-swappable battery 
units in the free market, and a bad battery would not total a ten year 
old car any more than a rod through the block would total a ten year old 
gasser.


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Re: [MBZ] "S63 Badges only for looks only." 2009 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 550 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $6, 500

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On 2023-12-04 10:54, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
It has highway miles, it does have a rebuilt title but that's not gonna 
stop this car from being what it is.



https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/233755229731545


If I'm going to do a badge upgrade, make mine S65 with V12 on the 
fenders.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Okieburger recipe

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On 2023-12-01 22:54, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

Are those a thing? You eat those?


In OKC look up Tuckers, they have a few locations.

And if you think you're man enough, order the Mother Tucker, its 
multiple layers of meat and grilled onions.


https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-m/1280/18/ef/43/73/onion-burger.jpg

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[MBZ] OT: Okieburger recipe

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wm-rPBkW2o

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Re: [MBZ] Groomers will be able to asses the needed equipment - 2010 Sprinter repo - $25, 000

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On 2023-11-28 08:12, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
Those mobile groomers are all over out here. A majority of them are set 
up in a Sprinter. People must make a decent living because I know it’s 
pricey to have them come groom one’s Doodles.


Sometimes it's worth paying them come to you, so you can watch and make 
sure they don't torture the dog to death instead of grooming it.


Tulsa:
https://www.news9.com/story/6508cf5983daa1293154530f/dog-groomer-accused-of-killing-dog-appears-in-court-protesters-demand-justice-

Georgia:
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/crime/forsyth-groomer-indicted-for-death-of-two-dogs-pleads-not-guilty/85-548443040

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Re: [MBZ] Groomers will be able to asses the needed equipment - 2010 Sprinter repo - $25, 000

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https://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_DatacardAction.php?lang=E=WDYPE7CC6A5491570

When did they ditch the five cylinder?

This one has the OM642 V6.

And a long list of features, including:
XC8 - VIN VISIBLE FROM OUTSIDE
XL8 - WEIGHT VARIANT 3880 KG
Y43 - HYDRAULIC JACK
Z44 - REGISTRATION OF VEHICLE NOT POSSIBLE IN EU
Z90 - UNDERBODY CONSERVATION DELETED
ZB6 - PRODUCTION PARTS KIT
ZU8 - USA COUNTRY VERSION
ZX9 - FREIGHTLINER EXECUTION

I guess Freightliner has something against underbody rustproofing?
At least it has a VIN plate on the dash. Do EU market vehicles not have 
that anymore?



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Re: [MBZ] Beware of BMW

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Did he have an M model, or a regular sedan?

I can understand rubber band tires on AMGs and BMW M series, but regular 
passenger cars should not have them. But it's been a trend for the last 
10+ years, and shows no sign of reverting to the mean.


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Re: [MBZ] This car has been garaged since purchased - 2006 CLS500 - $3, 000

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"Not garaged since new, garaged since I purchased it from CoPart."

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Re: [MBZ] Dash cams

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On 2023-11-26 20:20, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
I’ve bought cheap cams off Amazon at different times for $25-50. They 
have lighter plugs usually with another usb plug or two. You need some 
micro SD cards too. They work OK. There are dozens of different types 
with different features. A lot of them seem to be the same basic chinee 
design.


I bought this for twentysomething ($22 after coupon?) back in May.
Currently $28 with a Prime trial.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QSHWNBF

Good luck reading a license plate.
No complaints other than that.
Even came with a usable MicroSD card.
And, the lighter cord died the third time I used it.
Turned out to be a cold solder joint where the usb cord was soldered to 
the board inside the lighter plug.
Which explains why the LED status light still worked but no power came 
out of the cord.

A quick hit with Mr Weller and it was up and running again.

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Re: [MBZ] Was abandoned with me. 2008 Mercedes-Benz m-class, $4, 200 2008 Mercedes ml320 CDI 4matic

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I almost bought an 'abandoned' vehicle once.

Guy bought a house with a 1950s or early 1960s ID19 in the back yard.
Not rusty, but even if it 'ran when parked' (unknowable), it was parked 
a loong time ago, and just sorting out the suspension/brakes would have 
been beyond my budget.


Aside from that, it was a really cool car for $100.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Battery Buses

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On 2023-11-11 07:56, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
This electric bus company got a lot of subsidies but still couldn’t 
make a go of the business



Have you seen Amazon e-van deliveries yet?
Powered by Rivian. You get a custom van if you order 100,000 of them.
Kinda like UPS' unique package cars, but electric.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162439/DQV6LEBTDFFHNCK2TCUBZCMTL4_jpg-3021844.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162439/interior-of-new-amazon-delivery-vans-v0--3021845.JPG

Roll up rear door:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/162439/img-2345-copy-1669349149_jpg-3021846.JPG

DeMuro review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CWCqJl0BEs


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Re: [MBZ] Lookie at What is Starting to Appear on the CL

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On 2023-11-09 14:37, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/phoenix-2022-mercedes-eqs-450-sedan/7678496878.html


Nuclear powered MBZ?
That sounds like the car for you.

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Re: [MBZ] $1500 R500 cheap fixes

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Right click...open in private window...avoids getting told to remove 
your adblockers.


Watch the clock when he starts it.

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Re: [MBZ] Hoovie has a new woman?

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On 2023-11-03 08:16, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I tried not to judge but never understood the deal with his wife. 
Seemed odd to me. It would appear he has definitely moved up. When I 
first started noticing these videos (yesterday) of this new woman, I 
speculated they worked together and he started messing around on the 
wife causing the divorce.


I just watched episode 3 of their new YT channel, the 'how we met' part.
Officially, he started working for Barrett Jackson 3 years ago, she went 
back to working at Barrett Jackson 2 years ago, then much time elapsed 
in which they did nothing unprofessional together, then eventually she 
said she really liked him, he bought a Grand National because the girl 
who said she liked him liked GNs, and there's a 6 month old Hoovie's 
Garage video about Hoovie's GN he just bought.


So nothing they're saying in public looks bad for a guy who broke up 
with his wife a year ago.


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Re: [MBZ] Hoovie and his new girl

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On 2023-11-03 20:09, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
They started a new YouTube called Good Morning YouTube and the one that 
just came out details their meeting and development of their 
relationship. It’s quite fun.


Maxim was mentioned.
So this is what she looked like, younger and without the hair bleach.

https://www.maxim.com/women/what-april-rose-wants-2018-1/

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Re: [MBZ] Hoovie has a new woman?

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On 2023-11-02 23:08, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
From what I recall Hoovie has an Asian wife. I very rarely watch his 
videos anymore but noticed he has been making videos with some hot 
blond. They appear to be together more than just work partners. Did I 
miss something? Did he replace the wife?  I personally have very little 
interest in his videos anymore.


His new crush?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1h3wZ19Dro
I wonder how much child support/alimony he's paying to the chick he 
bought the A8 for.



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Re: [MBZ] Newest Mercedes with manual transmission

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On 2023-10-21 21:16, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Well actually FCP Euro has a writeup about this topic.

https://blog.fcpeuro.com/every-mercedes-model-with-a-manual-transmission


I was wondering if R171 had it, was surprised that R172 had it too.
I wonder if MBUSA ordered any 172s with stick shift.

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel mileage

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On 2023-10-20 23:42, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

What is the cetane rating of the Walmart/Sams fuel vs. others?


Back in the 1980s, when they sold #1 diesel and #2 diesel at the pumps, 
didn't the also display cetane ratings like they still display octane 
ratings?


Is it because there's now a minimum cetane spec and everybody aims to 
hit it on the nose?


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Re: [MBZ] Car has an intermitted limb mode - 2006 ML350 - 149k miles - $5, 999

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On 2023-10-16 10:29, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Extra 5 in price?

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/simpsonville-mercedes-benz-ml350-on-hold/7677084602.html


Factory defect engine, plus electronic issues with (7sp?) transmission?

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Re: [MBZ] 1985 Beemer on BAT has one small problem

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On 2023-10-13 18:35, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
I saw a guy yesterday in an older 3something droptop ripping off from a 
stoplight and moving with alacrity. It looked fun and sounded pretty 
good.   I could see driving one of those.


Back when first generation 3 series and 99 Saabs weren't the current 
models but not yet considered 'older', I worked with a guy who owned a 
320i. Pretty much equal in power and weight, the BMW was RWD and the 
Saab was much more aero (EMS rally replica with air dam). We'd 
occasionally race from the stoplight south of work to the RR tracks. If 
he botched the launch I was gone. If he nailed the launch, we'd hit 
30mph simultaneously with him a length to two in front of me. Once we 
hit 60 I'd start reeling him in and usually be ahead at 80mph across the 
tracks. (45 speed limit, and IMO the Saab liked the tracks more than the 
Bimmer did, but neither one took bumps like a W116)


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[MBZ] OT: Time capsule car with 977 miles in 40 years

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Time Capsule or Time Machine?

Did a Knutsen die in Wisconsin and an Executor explore his pole barn?

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/10/13/06/76504303-12626175-image-a-40_1697174278290.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12626175/DeLorean-1981-Wisconsin-miles-future.html

Blast from the past! 1981 DeLorean with just 977 miles on the clock is 
discovered in Wisconsin barn


   Hidden gem had been untouched so long it had 'begun to sink into the 
ground'
   Just 9,000 ever rolled off the production line and they can fetch up 
to $170,000
The iconic gull-wing car was immortalized as the time-travelling 
centerpiece of the 1985 Michael J Fox hit movie Back to the Future




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Re: [MBZ] A New Application for Dryer Vent Hose!

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Dryer vent hose, or (aluminized cardboard) intake air preheat hose, like 
you used to see running from the exhaust manifold to the snorkel?


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Re: [MBZ] OT: should flood loss cars be dismantled?

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On 2023-10-06 12:40, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

As long as the title reflects flood or salvage I’d be good with it



Apparently a Florida flood title works like a Michigan parts only title.
But a parts only car has been specifically determined to be not 
economically feasible to make roadworthy to a safe standard. Flood cars 
are salvaged by the thousands without much individual inspection when 
there's a hurricane event.


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[MBZ] OT: should flood loss cars be dismantled?

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State of Florida thinks so.

SamCrac thinks not, and wants to register his Corvette.  Is he on crack?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luAF028WeKI

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Re: [MBZ] 1998 E320 - 125k miles - $4,000

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W140. And 1998 is a good year for those.
Mitch.

On 2023-10-04 22:35, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Paint looks dull, guess it might clean up decently though being black.

Not much in the way of details. Price is a fantasy.

https://huntington.craigslist.org/cto/d/russell-car-for-sale/7673290432.html
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Re: [MBZ] Affected Engine?

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I thought it was all 2006 and some 2007.

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Re: [MBZ] Lift is done, need windows 95 help

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Does this help?
You should be able to at least get into device manager and look at your 
com ports.

http://shortcutmania.com/Windows-95-Keyboard-Shortcuts.htm

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Re: [MBZ] Today's Project - CL600

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On 2023-09-30 22:49, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

I am thinking someone changed the calipers on my 300SD and used the 
ones

for 1978 or 1979 instead of 1980.


I'd been thinking that maybe your car no longer had the correct 
calipers, but I think I forgot to say it.


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Re: [MBZ] W163 stuck in park

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There's a spring loaded door at the bottom of the PRND markings.
Similar on a W210 too.
Stick the key in the little door doohickey, angled back a bit, and use 
the key to pry the override switch forward.

While doing this, have the key in the ignition switched to "on".

Simple if you have a W210 with Smartkey. If it's a W163 you'll need two 
keys, or a screwdriver about the size of the key.


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Re: [MBZ] Help - WDDGF8AB2DR288607 2013 Mercedes C300

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On 2023-09-28 13:36, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

So this makes me wonder what exactly might be wrong with it. 


I look at the quote and think: Is it the ignition lock or the module 
that's bad?
And are you charging me for both because you don't want to strand me 
when the second one fails, or are you charging me for both because you 
don't know what failed?


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Re: [MBZ] Ok I guess I am behind the times

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On 2023-09-28 08:42, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I bought a 27” deal on Amazon that was cheap, had a good refresh rate, 
and also included both a hdmi and a usb c cable, I also has to buy a DP 
cable as the card in the computer only had DP or DVI. I figured perhaps 
I can hook my laptop to the hdmi port when I might need 2 screens for 
work.


I bought a 34" for home, use it like my 23"+19" combo at work.
I run two programs and visually compare them, it works great with two 
portrait views side by side on one screen. I'd buy another 34" for the 
office, if my computer wasn't a 23" touchscreen all in one.


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[MBZ] Who sells EVs in USA

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Basically, Tesla sells EVs in the US.

Mercedes and BMW (together) sell about as much as GM.
And Nissan, which was pretty much Teslas only notable competitor ten 
years ago, sells half as many as Mercedes.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60489/Capture_JPG-2968045.JPG

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Re: [MBZ] OT: What's a Sopwith Camel sound like?

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On 2023-09-27 08:17, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
Skilled Sopwith pilots could use the gyroscopic action of the rotary 
engine

to enhance turning in one direction, and their skilled opponents
knew this.  I wonder if it would be possible to throw in a ringer by
rigging the engine to turn in the other direction so that it was better
turning in the opposite direction?



I don't know if it's internet myth, but I read somewhere that the Red 
Baron had modified the engine in his Fokker to run backwards so he could 
be the only one who could turn left, giving him a huge advantage over 
anybody who went 270 degrees right to turn left.


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[MBZ] OT: What's a Sopwith Camel sound like?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq78ZocOAkY

Who needs a throttle when you can just shut off 1/3 or 2/3 of the 
cylinders?


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[MBZ] OT: who needs a 1000V insulated socket set?

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005EXPY7W

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Re: [MBZ] Never seen one of these.

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On 2023-09-24 14:23, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
Euro delivery 1994 E300 turbodiesel wagon.  The seat upholstery reminds 
me

of an airedale blanket.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-mercedes-benz-e300-turbodiesel/


Sort of like a facelifted 1987 300TD?
I was hoping for a 606 turbo. At least it's not a 602 turbo.

OM603.960 and a 722.3 transmission.
https://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_DatacardAction.php?lang=E=WDB1241931F301914

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Re: [MBZ] Help - WDDGF8AB2DR288607 2013 Mercedes C300

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Just don't reverse the cables.
Positive to positive, then check and double check that the unjumped 
terminals are both negative before jumping them too.


On 2023-09-24 10:53, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Should be ok




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Re: [MBZ] GL320CDI/GL320(350) Bluetec?

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Todd and Van billed 15.5 hours of labor on it?
Was it in Wisconsin?

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Re: [MBZ] Actual fuel economy on a 2014 E250 BlueTEC

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On 2023-09-22 15:58, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

For an entire tank's worth of driving (565 miles, e.g.) the actual
consumption pretty much exactly matches the computer calculation.


That's good.
In my red Cruze 50.1 on the dash was 47.7 on the calculator.
Only time I ever went 600 miles in a car with a 13 gallon tank.
I think all three of my Mom's Malibus were at least as optimistic.

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Re: [MBZ] GL320CDI/GL320(350) Bluetec?

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On 2023-09-22 20:55, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
Thanks. I’ll see the car tomorrow and can try to figure out what 
exactly it is. It would be great if it was the newer version with moah 
powah but that one might not have come along until 2010 sometime.


Reminds me of October 2001, when a friend of mine bought a brand new 13 
month old 2001 F250. I was expecting the 275hp engine, but when I saw it 
was built in 2000 I knew it was 235hp.


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Re: [MBZ] For All You B-70 Fans

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Was there ever a more expensive photo op than this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCORwUxlNQo

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Re: [MBZ] GL320CDI/GL320(350) Bluetec?

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Engine no.:642820 40 840224
Major assembly variant: A 642 010 21 47

I thought I could look up the 642.820 spec, but found two versions like 
you did,

204PS (less than 204HP) and 231PS.

They say the 204 is badged 300CDI (in Europe anyway) and the 231 is 
350CDI.


https://en.mercedesclub.cz/engine_detail.php?id=1

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Re: [MBZ] Actual fuel economy on a 2014 E250 BlueTEC

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Notice the difference in average speeds.
It appears that you get 1/4 more mpg when driving down the freeway from 
the gas station than you do in your overall driving.


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