Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo
Well, the headlight switch didn't cause this one. Mike On May 8, 2013 1:35 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: After all these years Ford still can't make a car that doesn't burn to the ground. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. Sure enough a Lincoln Town Car. Mike On May 5, 2013 8:04 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Ford town car clay On May 5, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Can anyone identify the make of this limo from what's left of the back end? Chrysler? Gerry http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319768/Five-dead-limousine-bursts-flames-San-Francisco-highway.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo
The only issue of that nature that I recall in recent years related to the cruise control on F150 trucks. 'I bought 2 of the repair harness parts and installed them myself as it was relatively cheap and much faster to do it myself. The dealer wanted me to book an appointment so they could cut the harness ( I just unplugged it ) and advised I would need a second appointment to have it repaired as they had to wait for parts to do it under warranty, although they had the parts on the shelf in the parts department if I just wanted to pay for them myself. Something like $26 if I recall correctly. I just bought them and put them on. No problems since. Randy On 08/05/2013 7:57 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Well, the headlight switch didn't cause this one. Mike On May 8, 2013 1:35 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: After all these years Ford still can't make a car that doesn't burn to the ground. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo
That limo was a 99 so who knows what state of repair it was in. Some independent player buys some old limo, goes into bidness on the cheap... --R On 5/8/13 11:34 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: The only issue of that nature that I recall in recent years related to the cruise control on F150 trucks. 'I bought 2 of the repair harness parts and installed them myself as it was relatively cheap and much faster to do it myself. The dealer wanted me to book an appointment so they could cut the harness ( I just unplugged it ) and advised I would need a second appointment to have it repaired as they had to wait for parts to do it under warranty, although they had the parts on the shelf in the parts department if I just wanted to pay for them myself. Something like $26 if I recall correctly. I just bought them and put them on. No problems since. Randy On 08/05/2013 7:57 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Well, the headlight switch didn't cause this one. Mike On May 8, 2013 1:35 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: After all these years Ford still can't make a car that doesn't burn to the ground. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo
Has there been any indication of what might have caused the fire? I am guessing it started in the passenger compartment where th ladies were or they would have been able to get out before it caused them much trouble. Does Ford make the Limo or is it farmed out to some aftermarket outfit? If so, it might be a bit much to lay the blame on Ford. Randy On 08/05/2013 10:51 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: That limo was a 99 so who knows what state of repair it was in. Some independent player buys some old limo, goes into bidness on the cheap... --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo
Randy, do you see potential here for major lawsuits? On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Has there been any indication of what might have caused the fire? I am guessing it started in the passenger compartment where th ladies were or they would have been able to get out before it caused them much trouble. Does Ford make the Limo or is it farmed out to some aftermarket outfit? If so, it might be a bit much to lay the blame on Ford. Randy On 08/05/2013 10:51 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: That limo was a 99 so who knows what state of repair it was in. Some independent player buys some old limo, goes into bidness on the cheap... --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo
Has there been any indication of what might have caused the fire? I am guessing it started in the passenger compartment where th ladies were or they would have been able to get out before it caused them much trouble. Does Ford make the Limo or is it farmed out to some aftermarket outfit? If so, it might be a bit much to lay the blame on Ford. Randy On 08/05/2013 10:51 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: That limo was a 99 so who knows what state of repair it was in. Some independent player buys some old limo, goes into bidness on the cheap... --R Several (many) aftermarket fab shops make limos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There is a livery (LWB) version of the Town Car which is made by Ford (Lincoln) but anything stretched is done by aftermarket coach builders. Sent from my iPad On May 8, 2013, at 12:19 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Several (many) aftermarket fab shops make limos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No, sadly, I wonder what those girls were doing in the back of that limo? I suspect they likely caused the fire. Randy On 08/05/2013 11:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Randy, do you see potential here for major lawsuits? On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Has there been any indication of what might have caused the fire? I am guessing it started in the passenger compartment where th ladies were or they would have been able to get out before it caused them much trouble. Does Ford make the Limo or is it farmed out to some aftermarket outfit? If so, it might be a bit much to lay the blame on Ford. Randy On 08/05/2013 10:51 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: That limo was a 99 so who knows what state of repair it was in. Some independent player buys some old limo, goes into bidness on the cheap... --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo
To be fair the primary fire hazard on the Panther platform (Town Car, Crown Vic, Marquis) has been the position of the gas tank and the rear suspension bolts that could pierce the tank in a rear-end collision. Law enforcement vehicles were recalled to modify these parts to decrease the risk. I did a lot of research on this before I bought a couple of low mileage 90s Crown Vics. The stats on these fires came mostly from vehicles used by LEOs in highway stops. Vehicles used in this way (stopped on the side of a road with fast traffic) many times a day are more prone to being rear-ended at high speed. The bottom line for me was the statistics of serious injury kept by the insurance companies. These show the Crown Vic to be one of the safest cars on the road. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 10:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo After all these years Ford still can't make a car that doesn't burn to the ground. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Yep. Sure enough a Lincoln Town Car. Mike On May 5, 2013 8:04 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Ford town car clay On May 5, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Can anyone identify the make of this limo from what's left of the back end? Chrysler? Gerry http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319768/Five-dead-limousine-bu rsts-flames-San-Francisco-highway.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo
'Reminds me: In Greenland, when I first got there in Feb '78, the idle on My '77 Ford crew-cab pickup was set way too high. I always hold brake when pulling a vehicle into gear, but this idle speed was so high, that whenever I pulled it in gear, there be a nearly violent JERK, and when stopped with vehicle in gear, I had to hold brake excessively hard to keep vehicle from moving on aggressively. I pulled into the Danish contractor-operated garage one day and asked a mechanic to set the idle down a bit. He replied, I can't do that; it's set IAW factory specs, and I'm not allowed to set it outside the specs. I told him that I couldn't believe the specs would have it set so high that it jerks so when I put it in gear. He refused to do anything about it; I left garage, drove straight to my room, got a common screwdriver, and, as I was in my parking space outside my quarters with hood up and turning idle downward a bit, he pulled up beside me. I told 'im, It'll take me only a few seconds and I'll have it set to a more reasonable level. I finished, closed hood, threw my screwdriver up in front seat beside me and went on my way. Truck was still running fine with my lower, more reasonable idle setting when I left nearly a year later. There is no substitute for common sense in ANY endeavor. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo The only issue of that nature that I recall in recent years related to the cruise control on F150 trucks. 'I bought 2 of the repair harness parts and installed them myself as it was relatively cheap and much faster to do it myself. The dealer wanted me to book an appointment so they could cut the harness ( I just unplugged it ) and advised I would need a second appointment to have it repaired as they had to wait for parts to do it under warranty, although they had the parts on the shelf in the parts department if I just wanted to pay for them myself. Something like $26 if I recall correctly. I just bought them and put them on. No problems since. Randy On 08/05/2013 7:57 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Well, the headlight switch didn't cause this one. Mike On May 8, 2013 1:35 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: After all these years Ford still can't make a car that doesn't burn to the ground. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo
Actually the livery vehicles were recalled in the same manor Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: To be fair the primary fire hazard on the Panther platform (Town Car, Crown Vic, Marquis) has been the position of the gas tank and the rear suspension bolts that could pierce the tank in a rear-end collision. Law enforcement vehicles were recalled to modify these parts to decrease the risk. I did a lot of research on this before I bought a couple of low mileage 90s Crown Vics. The stats on these fires came mostly from vehicles used by LEOs in highway stops. Vehicles used in this way (stopped on the side of a road with fast traffic) many times a day are more prone to being rear-ended at high speed. The bottom line for me was the statistics of serious injury kept by the insurance companies. These show the Crown Vic to be one of the safest cars on the road. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 10:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo After all these years Ford still can't make a car that doesn't burn to the ground. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Yep. Sure enough a Lincoln Town Car. Mike On May 5, 2013 8:04 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Ford town car clay On May 5, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Can anyone identify the make of this limo from what's left of the back end? Chrysler? Gerry http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319768/Five-dead-limousine-bu rsts-flames-San-Francisco-highway.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo
Head light switches, Brake switches, general engine fires, gas tanks, ... Ford sells automobiles not safety. - McNamara when questioned about seat belts On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Well, the headlight switch didn't cause this one. Mike On May 8, 2013 1:35 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: After all these years Ford still can't make a car that doesn't burn to the ground. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. Sure enough a Lincoln Town Car. Mike On May 5, 2013 8:04 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Ford town car clay On May 5, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Can anyone identify the make of this limo from what's left of the back end? Chrysler? Gerry http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319768/Five-dead-limousine-bursts-flames-San-Francisco-highway.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo
After all these years Ford still can't make a car that doesn't burn to the ground. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Yep. Sure enough a Lincoln Town Car. Mike On May 5, 2013 8:04 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Ford town car clay On May 5, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Can anyone identify the make of this limo from what's left of the back end? Chrysler? Gerry http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319768/Five-dead-limousine-bursts-flames-San-Francisco-highway.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 5 Women die in burning limo
Can anyone identify the make of this limo from what's left of the back end? Chrysler? Gerry http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319768/Five-dead-limousine-bursts-flames-San-Francisco-highway.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ford town car clay On May 5, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Can anyone identify the make of this limo from what's left of the back end? Chrysler? Gerry http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319768/Five-dead-limousine-bursts-flames-San-Francisco-highway.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yep. Sure enough a Lincoln Town Car. Mike On May 5, 2013 8:04 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Ford town car clay On May 5, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: Can anyone identify the make of this limo from what's left of the back end? Chrysler? Gerry http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319768/Five-dead-limousine-bursts-flames-San-Francisco-highway.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com