Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
Thanks -- I may give the Rotary guys a call to compare. They are made here in Indiana. Allan Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes writes: > The 12' ceiling really held me up for a while until I had an experienced > installer come and look at my space. Some lifts require that height for > the columns, but the Mohawk I have has shorter columns with overhead > hydraulic lines that are adjustable. I have 10.5' ceilings and can raise > any car (I've had quite a few, as heavy and large as a long W140) full > standing height, maximum height of the lift. I can store a vehicle under > if needed, as I did a few times this year during winter storms. A truck or > tall vehicle would be an issue, but I don't own any of those. > > I paid $8k installed for a 7k asymmetrical Mohawk. No regrets at all. The > 7k isn't available anymore and their next smallest lift is quite a bit more > expensive unfortunately. > > Jaime > > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 3:39 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> So what expense (ballpark) would I be looking at to put in a two-post >> lift? >> >> I am guessing it's not justified by the amount of work that I do, on the >> other hand maybe I'd keep up on stuff better if it was less of a PITA to >> actually do the work. >> >> I do have a three-bay garage but ceiling is 10' and mostly I see 12' as >> the minimum. In theory I could box out another 2' of height over the >> center bay, but that would be more . >> >> Allan >> >> Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes writes: >> >> > Allan, >> > Trial and error and some common sense! >> > >> > I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always >> > obvious due to the angle of the columns. But you can determine if >> > you're heavy in one direction or the other based on the load felt >> > on some of the rollers. >> > >> > Jaime >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
The 12' ceiling really held me up for a while until I had an experienced installer come and look at my space. Some lifts require that height for the columns, but the Mohawk I have has shorter columns with overhead hydraulic lines that are adjustable. I have 10.5' ceilings and can raise any car (I've had quite a few, as heavy and large as a long W140) full standing height, maximum height of the lift. I can store a vehicle under if needed, as I did a few times this year during winter storms. A truck or tall vehicle would be an issue, but I don't own any of those. I paid $8k installed for a 7k asymmetrical Mohawk. No regrets at all. The 7k isn't available anymore and their next smallest lift is quite a bit more expensive unfortunately. Jaime On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 3:39 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So what expense (ballpark) would I be looking at to put in a two-post > lift? > > I am guessing it's not justified by the amount of work that I do, on the > other hand maybe I'd keep up on stuff better if it was less of a PITA to > actually do the work. > > I do have a three-bay garage but ceiling is 10' and mostly I see 12' as > the minimum. In theory I could box out another 2' of height over the > center bay, but that would be more . > > Allan > > Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes writes: > > > Allan, > > Trial and error and some common sense! > > > > I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always > obvious > > due to the angle of the columns. But you can determine if you're heavy > in > > one direction or the other based on the load felt on some of the rollers. > > > > Jaime > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
When I buy a lift it'll be a Wildfire 4 post. Watch the Vice Grip Garage video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgX8gSjy-KAMustie1 has one too, he assembled it himself. I like the idea of being able to move it around. I also like the idea of being able to park a car under it and the fact that it runs on 110v. -Curt On Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 7:45:34 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: And with a four post you might have enough height to stack cars. My brother in-law’s neighbor has two of these in his three car garage. He keeps four cars in those two bays - one on each lift, one parked below. You can’t have something like an SUV, but I think he has Mustangs and Camaros. -D > On Jun 9, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > A Mohawk lift is designed to work with low ceiling clearance. 10” will > suffice I believe. The other conventional two post lifts do require higher > ceilings as you mentioned. The slightly more budget friendly (and it’s not > budget friendly) 7K Mohawk is no longer in production so you’re stuck > forking up even more for a 10K lb capacity Mohawk System 1A lift which is > outrageously expensive. > > There are cheap or cheaper 4 post lifts out there that will work with low > ceiling clearances though. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> So what expense (ballpark) would I be looking at to put in a two-post >> lift? >> >> I am guessing it's not justified by the amount of work that I do, on the >> other hand maybe I'd keep up on stuff better if it was less of a PITA to >> actually do the work. >> >> I do have a three-bay garage but ceiling is 10' and mostly I see 12' as >> the minimum. In theory I could box out another 2' of height over the >> center bay, but that would be more . >> >> Allan >> >> Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes writes: >> >>> Allan, >>> Trial and error and some common sense! >>> >>> I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always obvious >>> due to the angle of the columns. But you can determine if you're heavy in >>> one direction or the other based on the load felt on some of the rollers. >>> >>> Jaime >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
And with a four post you might have enough height to stack cars. My brother in-law’s neighbor has two of these in his three car garage. He keeps four cars in those two bays - one on each lift, one parked below. You can’t have something like an SUV, but I think he has Mustangs and Camaros. -D > On Jun 9, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > A Mohawk lift is designed to work with low ceiling clearance. 10” will > suffice I believe. The other conventional two post lifts do require higher > ceilings as you mentioned. The slightly more budget friendly (and it’s not > budget friendly) 7K Mohawk is no longer in production so you’re stuck > forking up even more for a 10K lb capacity Mohawk System 1A lift which is > outrageously expensive. > > There are cheap or cheaper 4 post lifts out there that will work with low > ceiling clearances though. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> So what expense (ballpark) would I be looking at to put in a two-post >> lift? >> >> I am guessing it's not justified by the amount of work that I do, on the >> other hand maybe I'd keep up on stuff better if it was less of a PITA to >> actually do the work. >> >> I do have a three-bay garage but ceiling is 10' and mostly I see 12' as >> the minimum. In theory I could box out another 2' of height over the >> center bay, but that would be more . >> >> Allan >> >> Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes writes: >> >>> Allan, >>> Trial and error and some common sense! >>> >>> I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always obvious >>> due to the angle of the columns. But you can determine if you're heavy in >>> one direction or the other based on the load felt on some of the rollers. >>> >>> Jaime >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
A Mohawk lift is designed to work with low ceiling clearance. 10” will suffice I believe. The other conventional two post lifts do require higher ceilings as you mentioned. The slightly more budget friendly (and it’s not budget friendly) 7K Mohawk is no longer in production so you’re stuck forking up even more for a 10K lb capacity Mohawk System 1A lift which is outrageously expensive. There are cheap or cheaper 4 post lifts out there that will work with low ceiling clearances though. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > So what expense (ballpark) would I be looking at to put in a two-post > lift? > > I am guessing it's not justified by the amount of work that I do, on the > other hand maybe I'd keep up on stuff better if it was less of a PITA to > actually do the work. > > I do have a three-bay garage but ceiling is 10' and mostly I see 12' as > the minimum. In theory I could box out another 2' of height over the > center bay, but that would be more . > > Allan > > Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes writes: > >> Allan, >> Trial and error and some common sense! >> >> I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always obvious >> due to the angle of the columns. But you can determine if you're heavy in >> one direction or the other based on the load felt on some of the rollers. >> >> Jaime >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
So what expense (ballpark) would I be looking at to put in a two-post lift? I am guessing it's not justified by the amount of work that I do, on the other hand maybe I'd keep up on stuff better if it was less of a PITA to actually do the work. I do have a three-bay garage but ceiling is 10' and mostly I see 12' as the minimum. In theory I could box out another 2' of height over the center bay, but that would be more . Allan Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes writes: > Allan, > Trial and error and some common sense! > > I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always obvious > due to the angle of the columns. But you can determine if you're heavy in > one direction or the other based on the load felt on some of the rollers. > > Jaime > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
And you always lift the car off the floor a few inches and go around and give it a good push and rock to make sure it is not going to fall off and turn you into Wile E Coyote --FT On 6/9/21 7:29 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: Allan, Trial and error and some common sense! I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always obvious due to the angle of the columns. But you can determine if you're heavy in one direction or the other based on the load felt on some of the rollers. Jaime On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 11:54 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: When you use a two post lift how do you know where to place the lift arms so the car is balanced? Allan Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes writes: Somewhat hard for everyday knickknacks but easy for bigger expensive items such as a car lift. I ordered a Mohawk 2 post lift for my garage a few weeks ago. 100% made in the USA. Hugely expensive but I don’t care. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 8, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Hard to do. On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 9:48 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Yes. Stay away from Chinese stuff. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 7:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift? Get a Rotary or a Mohawk. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over the last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
Why the price increases? Hmmm, have to take that discussion to Okietalk... Max Dillon Charleston SC Jun 8, 2021 8:15:27 PM G Mann via Mercedes : > Check the price of steel over the past 60 days. Steel has risen in price > over 150%. That, along with the price of fuel, which impacts ship fuel, and > road fuel, also, has impacted the end price of Chinese goods. > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 4:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift? >> Get a Rotary or a Mohawk. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over the >> last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the >> prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
Allan, Trial and error and some common sense! I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always obvious due to the angle of the columns. But you can determine if you're heavy in one direction or the other based on the load felt on some of the rollers. Jaime On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 11:54 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > When you use a two post lift how do you know where to place the lift > arms so the car is balanced? > > Allan > > Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes writes: > > > Somewhat hard for everyday knickknacks but easy for bigger expensive > > items such as a car lift. I ordered a Mohawk 2 post lift for my garage > > a few weeks ago. 100% made in the USA. Hugely expensive but I don’t > > care. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jun 8, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hard to do. > >> > >>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 9:48 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Yes. Stay away from Chinese stuff. > >>> > >>> Dwight Giles Jr. > >>> Wickford RI > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 7:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift? Get a > Rotary or a Mohawk. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over > > the last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see > > now the prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of > > weeks ago. Wtf? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
Details, details. Fed stopped publishing weekly data but still publishes monthly data. But the "latest" information is not so current. Here near mid-June, the latest published data is April. The M1 data (https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M1SL) is sobering, jumping from $4T in April 2020 to $19T in April 2021 (almost 5x in a year). M1 is cash plus demand deposits (like checking accounts), i.e., right-now money. That's a LOT of demand. The printing pressed have been busy. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Rick Knoble via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 12:15 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Rick Knoble Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts Here you go. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MABMM301USM189S Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: June 8, 2021 11:09 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ritchey30...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts More to the point, the value of US dollars has gone down by a third, thanks to the Treasury and the Fed. Check the M1. M2, and M3 charts if you can find them. The Fed discontinued publishing M3 data some time ago and discontinued weekly M1 and M2 data recently (your inner voice should be screaming WTH?). If you can buy something now that's needed and durable, do so. This will not end well. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of G Mann via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 8:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts Check the price of steel over the past 60 days. Steel has risen in price over 150%. That, along with the price of fuel, which impacts ship fuel, and road fuel, also, has impacted the end price of Chinese goods. On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 4:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift? > Get a Rotary or a Mohawk. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over > > the > last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the > prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
Here you go. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MABMM301USM189S Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: June 8, 2021 11:09 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ritchey30...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts More to the point, the value of US dollars has gone down by a third, thanks to the Treasury and the Fed. Check the M1. M2, and M3 charts if you can find them. The Fed discontinued publishing M3 data some time ago and discontinued weekly M1 and M2 data recently (your inner voice should be screaming WTH?). If you can buy something now that's needed and durable, do so. This will not end well. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of G Mann via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 8:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts Check the price of steel over the past 60 days. Steel has risen in price over 150%. That, along with the price of fuel, which impacts ship fuel, and road fuel, also, has impacted the end price of Chinese goods. On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 4:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift? > Get a Rotary or a Mohawk. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over > > the > last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the > prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
More to the point, the value of US dollars has gone down by a third, thanks to the Treasury and the Fed. Check the M1. M2, and M3 charts if you can find them. The Fed discontinued publishing M3 data some time ago and discontinued weekly M1 and M2 data recently (your inner voice should be screaming WTH?). If you can buy something now that's needed and durable, do so. This will not end well. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of G Mann via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 8:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts Check the price of steel over the past 60 days. Steel has risen in price over 150%. That, along with the price of fuel, which impacts ship fuel, and road fuel, also, has impacted the end price of Chinese goods. On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 4:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift? > Get a Rotary or a Mohawk. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over > > the > last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the > prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
When you use a two post lift how do you know where to place the lift arms so the car is balanced? Allan Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes writes: > Somewhat hard for everyday knickknacks but easy for bigger expensive > items such as a car lift. I ordered a Mohawk 2 post lift for my garage > a few weeks ago. 100% made in the USA. Hugely expensive but I don’t > care. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 8, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Hard to do. >> >>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 9:48 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes. Stay away from Chinese stuff. >>> >>> Dwight Giles Jr. >>> Wickford RI >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 7:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift? Get a Rotary or a Mohawk. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over > the last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see > now the prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of > weeks ago. Wtf? > > Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
Somewhat hard for everyday knickknacks but easy for bigger expensive items such as a car lift. I ordered a Mohawk 2 post lift for my garage a few weeks ago. 100% made in the USA. Hugely expensive but I don’t care. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 8, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Hard to do. > >> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 9:48 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Yes. Stay away from Chinese stuff. >> >> Dwight Giles Jr. >> Wickford RI >> >> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 7:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift? >>> Get a Rotary or a Mohawk. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over the >>> last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the >>> prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
Yes i know but worth pursuing IMHO Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 9:54 PM Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Hard to do. > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 9:48 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Yes. Stay away from Chinese stuff. >> >> Dwight Giles Jr. >> Wickford RI >> >> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 7:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> > Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift? >> > Get a Rotary or a Mohawk. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > > On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over the >> > last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the >> > prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf? >> > > >> > > Sent from my iPhone >> > > >> > > ___ >> > > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > >> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > > >> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
Hard to do. On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 9:48 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yes. Stay away from Chinese stuff. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 7:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift? > > Get a Rotary or a Mohawk. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over the > > last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the > > prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf? > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
Yes. Stay away from Chinese stuff. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 7:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift? > Get a Rotary or a Mohawk. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over the > last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the > prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
May not be worth your hourly rate, but stripping them will give better ROI to my mind. Pahts is Dahllahs! Squished car is just $40/ton. Maybe it has gone up more recently. Hard to tell, as the PnP down south of me is not turning over inventory the way it was pre-plague. Carcasses sit for two or three weeks longer before getting swapped out and there is a decline in density on the rows. If scrap has become gold, then I would expect the rotting snow machines and other metal debris would be getting scooped out of the muskeg and tundra, put on barges, and shipped to china. I have not heard any plans for this. Though I am seeing a surge on CL of scrap cars for crack prices. Clay inter urinas et faeces nascimur > On Jun 8, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Does that mean I should start crushing cars again? > > Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
Yep. It’s amazing how screwed up things are now. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:35 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 7:15 PM G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Check the price of steel over the past 60 days. Steel has risen in price >> over 150%. That, along with the price of fuel, which impacts ship fuel, and >> road fuel, also > > > (Significant Look towards District of Columbia) > > -MMM- > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
Does that mean I should start crushing cars again? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:15 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > Check the price of steel over the past 60 days. Steel has risen in price > over 150%. That, along with the price of fuel, which impacts ship fuel, and > road fuel, also, has impacted the end price of Chinese goods. > >> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 4:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift? >> Get a Rotary or a Mohawk. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over the >> last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the >> prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
I do, it’s really an alignment rack but I am also looking for a 2 post lift. I suppose I could probably get by with my drive on lift. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 8, 2021, at 6:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > I thought you have one that needs installed? > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: June 8, 2021 6:11 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: ka...@striplin.net > Subject: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts > > I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over the last > month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the prices are > up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf? > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 7:15 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Check the price of steel over the past 60 days. Steel has risen in price > over 150%. That, along with the price of fuel, which impacts ship fuel, and > road fuel, also (Significant Look towards District of Columbia) -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
Check the price of steel over the past 60 days. Steel has risen in price over 150%. That, along with the price of fuel, which impacts ship fuel, and road fuel, also, has impacted the end price of Chinese goods. On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 4:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift? > Get a Rotary or a Mohawk. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over the > last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the > prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift? Get a Rotary or a Mohawk. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over the last > month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the prices are > up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf? > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
I thought you have one that needs installed? Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: June 8, 2021 6:11 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over the last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts
I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over the last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
