Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: First no monitor mac was the plain Mac II. Huge box with six NUBUS slots. Six slots, any or all of which could be filled with a video card, with OS support to use them to display a single contiguous workspace regardless of the size or resolution of the monitors attached. I remember in 1987 being blown away by a floor display at an Apple dealer of a Mac II with four or five monitors gratuitously attached simultaneously---some large, some small, some color, some B/W (the late, lamented 2-bit grayscale Apple Portrait Display, I believe). This was 15 years or so before Windows machines could reliably offer this feature, and I don't think anyone really grokked its significance at the time except Photoshop users, who soon cottoned to the idea of putting your document window on one big monitor and your toolbars, palettes, etc. on a second, smaller one. Some people are only just now getting it---you still see articles and blog entries in the corporate IT press with titles like Use Two Monitors For Greater Productivity! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
I think one reason few took to the idea, was the cost of those Apple monitors if I remember!! Buy the time you forked over the cash for Mac ll, and one monitor, most had to take a second mortgage on their homes. hee hee. Ed 300E, with a bunch of old Mac stuff in the basement. A bunch just went to the dump too. 2009/9/10 Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: First no monitor mac was the plain Mac II. Huge box with six NUBUS slots. Six slots, any or all of which could be filled with a video card, with OS support to use them to display a single contiguous workspace regardless of the size or resolution of the monitors attached. I remember in 1987 being blown away by a floor display at an Apple dealer of a Mac II with four or five monitors gratuitously attached simultaneously---some large, some small, some color, some B/W (the late, lamented 2-bit grayscale Apple Portrait Display, I believe). This was 15 years or so before Windows machines could reliably offer this feature, and I don't think anyone really grokked its significance at the time except Photoshop users, who soon cottoned to the idea of putting your document window on one big monitor and your toolbars, palettes, etc. on a second, smaller one. Some people are only just now getting it---you still see articles and blog entries in the corporate IT press with titles like Use Two Monitors For Greater Productivity! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090910/b543d865/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
Video editors too, we've had one screen for playback and one for bins for years... Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:03:18 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: f7b6bd1a0909101003s3948f528h70d8e90007962...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: First no monitor mac was the plain Mac II. ?Huge box with six NUBUS slots. Six slots, any or all of which could be filled with a video card, with OS support to use them to display a single contiguous workspace regardless of the size or resolution of the monitors attached. I remember in 1987 being blown away by a floor display at an Apple dealer of a Mac II with four or five monitors gratuitously attached simultaneously---some large, some small, some color, some B/W (the late, lamented 2-bit grayscale Apple Portrait Display, I believe). This was 15 years or so before Windows machines could reliably offer this feature, and I don't think anyone really grokked its significance at the time except Photoshop users, who soon cottoned to the idea of putting your document window on one big monitor and your toolbars, palettes, etc. on a second, smaller one. Some people are only just now getting it---you still see articles and blog entries in the corporate IT press with titles like Use Two Monitors For Greater Productivity! Alex -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090910/4282d02e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
Yup! I grabbed a aforementioned Portrait monitor at the univ junk sale, (it was already OLD then) then donated it to the lady (maybe 12 years ago) who edited my thesis and dissertation. She could do stuff on the small monitor, like email and daily grind stuff, while she had a word file up on the portrait editing two full size pages at a time. It increased her productivity so much she didn't charge for my dissertation. She cried when she was no longer able to use that monitor! It is only recently with big widescreen flat monitors that two pages at a time on one monitor became realistic again. At 12:03 PM 9/10/2009, you wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: First no monitor mac was the plain Mac II. Huge box with six NUBUS slots. Six slots, any or all of which could be filled with a video card, with OS support to use them to display a single contiguous workspace regardless of the size or resolution of the monitors attached. I remember in 1987 being blown away by a floor display at an Apple dealer of a Mac II with four or five monitors gratuitously attached simultaneously---some large, some small, some color, some B/W (the late, lamented 2-bit grayscale Apple Portrait Display, I believe). This was 15 years or so before Windows machines could reliably offer this feature, and I don't think anyone really grokked its significance at the time except Photoshop users, who soon cottoned to the idea of putting your document window on one big monitor and your toolbars, palettes, etc. on a second, smaller one. Some people are only just now getting it---you still see articles and blog entries in the corporate IT press with titles like Use Two Monitors For Greater Productivity! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
The better widescreen monitors can be rotated to a portrait orientation. Very nice when doing word processing or code editing. Allan On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:52 -0500, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: Yup! I grabbed a aforementioned Portrait monitor at the univ junk sale, (it was already OLD then) then donated it to the lady (maybe 12 years ago) who edited my thesis and dissertation. She could do stuff on the small monitor, like email and daily grind stuff, while she had a word file up on the portrait editing two full size pages at a time. It increased her productivity so much she didn't charge for my dissertation. She cried when she was no longer able to use that monitor! It is only recently with big widescreen flat monitors that two pages at a time on one monitor became realistic again. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
I have one, bought from the neighbor's company when they switched to PCs 15 years ago or so. Lovely machine, it's the only one I'm keeping. Pretty spiff for 1990: the IIfx has a 40 MHz processor, and mine has 24 M of memory, in the day when a PC usually only held 4M. System 7.1 on it, still operates for all I know. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
The IIfx ran a cool $10,000. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
799 gets you top of the line mini as well! On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: Yeah, I forgot about those, because they were $$O expensive. I guess the IISi seemed like the first separate monitor mac to me because it was the first semi-affordable one. At that time I was still running on my IIGS Oh God, yes. The Macintosh II was introduced in the late 80's, (86, 87) and a fully decked Macintosh II was something like $6,000 in yesterday dollars. That was a entry level car at the time, a nice used Corvette if you preferred. The Macintosh IIx, introduced the next year, was $10,000 fully decked with 40 MB hard drive. People want to talk about how expensive the $799 Mac Mini is . HA! Macs are down right affordable today, even the Pros. EdB -- I've come to your planet on a Class IV Intergalactic Doom Freighter. - Adrian Monk -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090909/888ffcc6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090909/dfc6cbf6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
I donated a bunch of my older macs to the kids' school because at the time they were running Apple IIs in the classroom and I had a stack of IIci and IIsi, as well as the Mac II. Think I gave them two dozen, with monitors for most. Now they purchase a dozen macbooks at a time each year, and no more donating for them. Increased tuition and begging () each year. clay On Sep 8, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: Yeah, I forgot about those, because they were $$O expensive. I guess the IISi seemed like the first separate monitor mac to me because it was the first semi-affordable one. At that time I was still running on my IIGS At 11:24 PM 9/8/2009, you wrote: First no monitor mac was the plain Mac II. Huge box with six NUBUS slots. Loved that thing. The IIfx was the Bomb though. Used funky RAM, 64 pin, and I had mine decked out with all slots full of 16meg sticks. Radius cards and extra SCSI. clay On Sep 8, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: Ok, I have updated listing: Mac II Si, LCIII, 7200, G3 Beige, and G3 Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10. Still have the 17 Mac monitor with built in speakers also. All are available for free if you pay the shipping (or pick it up). Just send me your mailing address off-list, with a specific request. Looks like there might be a couple of takers for the Wall Street, but nobody has sent me an address yet. I think the II Si was the first mac without a builtin monitor At 11:51 PM 9/7/2009, you wrote: Alex, I have a 68030 II SE I am getting rid of. Would that work for you? I have a 17 Mac monitor with the built in speakers too, if you want it. I think it came with one of the first Mac types with the video I/O card from the factory. Very fancy (expensive) monitor in its day! Also have a 7200, G3 Beige and Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10 on it, looking for homes if anyone is interested. Pay the freight, and they are yours! Oh, and I have one other, can't remember the model, but it is also an 030, the small one. I used it for a headless print server for quite a while. (cleaned the garage today) My favorite old app is print shop for the Apple II. You could do stuff with it that later Winders and Mac versions could not do. Love those dot matrix graphics. Now it is a retro look. A step up (or down) from Asci II graphics. At 02:39 AM 9/7/2009, you wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: We just got another 9-year-old Pismo for my son to play Riven on. Works fine, then and now. Aha, Jim, now you've hit on the _real_ reason to buy trailing-edge hardware... it's not about saving money so much as it's about being able to run old games. Sometimes I wish I'd kept my Mac Plus around just to play Dark Castle. (Yes, I know I could do it though emulation, but it's just not the same.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
Ok, I have updated listing: Mac II Si, LCIII, 7200, G3 Beige, and G3 Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10. Still have the 17 Mac monitor with built in speakers also. All are available for free if you pay the shipping (or pick it up). Just send me your mailing address off-list, with a specific request. Looks like there might be a couple of takers for the Wall Street, but nobody has sent me an address yet. I think the II Si was the first mac without a builtin monitor At 11:51 PM 9/7/2009, you wrote: Alex, I have a 68030 II SE I am getting rid of. Would that work for you? I have a 17 Mac monitor with the built in speakers too, if you want it. I think it came with one of the first Mac types with the video I/O card from the factory. Very fancy (expensive) monitor in its day! Also have a 7200, G3 Beige and Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10 on it, looking for homes if anyone is interested. Pay the freight, and they are yours! Oh, and I have one other, can't remember the model, but it is also an 030, the small one. I used it for a headless print server for quite a while. (cleaned the garage today) My favorite old app is print shop for the Apple II. You could do stuff with it that later Winders and Mac versions could not do. Love those dot matrix graphics. Now it is a retro look. A step up (or down) from Asci II graphics. At 02:39 AM 9/7/2009, you wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: We just got another 9-year-old Pismo for my son to play Riven on. Works fine, then and now. Aha, Jim, now you've hit on the _real_ reason to buy trailing-edge hardware... it's not about saving money so much as it's about being able to run old games. Sometimes I wish I'd kept my Mac Plus around just to play Dark Castle. (Yes, I know I could do it though emulation, but it's just not the same.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
Walstreet Curt Raymond 16 Cedar Terrace Winchendon, MA 01475 Paypal? Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:13:21 -0500 From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com Subject: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: mailman.66.1252444989.10911.mercedes_okiebenz@okiebenz.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Ok, I have updated listing: Mac II Si, LCIII, 7200, G3 Beige, and G3 Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10. Still have the 17 Mac monitor with built in speakers also. All are available for free if you pay the shipping (or pick it up). Just send me your mailing address off-list, with a specific request. Looks like there might be a couple of takers for the Wall Street, but nobody has sent me an address yet. I think the II Si was the first mac without a builtin monitor -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090908/e167d96d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
I swear theres something wrong with me. I CLEARLY ment to send this just to Loren. Second time I've done this in 2 weeks... -Curt Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 16:00:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 803844.85377...@web32802.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Walstreet Paypal? Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:13:21 -0500 From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com Subject: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow ??? leopard To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: ??? mailman.66.1252444989.10911.mercedes_okiebenz@okiebenz.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Ok, I have updated listing: Mac II Si,? LCIII,? 7200, G3 Beige, and G3 Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10.? Still have the 17 Mac monitor with built in speakers also. All are available for free if you pay the shipping (or pick it up).? Just send me your mailing address off-list, with a specific request. Looks like there might be a couple of takers for the Wall Street, but nobody has sent me an address yet. I think the II Si was the first mac without a builtin monitor -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090908/fdb4995b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
I don't anymore, got rid of my Plus a couple years ago. I do have the shell of a 512K that I'd intended to make into an aquarium 10 years ago... Still might get to it someday. -Curt Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 20:21:41 -0400 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: fbc36f3b0909081721w6ccfc0a2gcddcf252e456d...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Who doesn't have a few old Mac's in their basement. I still have my first comp stuck in a corner of my office, an SE, complete with a 1200 modem, and old wide carriage colour ribbon printer. Hard to believe now, that old SE was $5500 new, and the printer was almost $3000!!! If you sprung for the SE30, it would have set you back $7500 Canadian bucks at the time! Ed 300E -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090908/b257d0dc/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
Who doesn't have a few old Mac's in their basement. I still have my first comp stuck in a corner of my office, an SE, complete with a 1200 modem, and old wide carriage colour ribbon printer. Hard to believe now, that old SE was $5500 new, and the printer was almost $3000!!! If you sprung for the SE30, it would have set you back $7500 Canadian bucks at the time! Ed 300E 2009/9/8 Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com The Mac II was the first mac without built in monitor. Bad ass machine at it's time - 1988. I still have mine and it still works! Hearing that thing boot up brings back high school memories. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: Ok, I have updated listing: Mac II Si, LCIII, 7200, G3 Beige, and G3 Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10. Still have the 17 Mac monitor with built in speakers also. All are available for free if you pay the shipping (or pick it up). Just send me your mailing address off-list, with a specific request. Looks like there might be a couple of takers for the Wall Street, but nobody has sent me an address yet. I think the II Si was the first mac without a builtin monitor At 11:51 PM 9/7/2009, you wrote: Alex, I have a 68030 II SE I am getting rid of. Would that work for you? I have a 17 Mac monitor with the built in speakers too, if you want it. I think it came with one of the first Mac types with the video I/O card from the factory. Very fancy (expensive) monitor in its day! Also have a 7200, G3 Beige and Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10 on it, looking for homes if anyone is interested. Pay the freight, and they are yours! Oh, and I have one other, can't remember the model, but it is also an 030, the small one. I used it for a headless print server for quite a while. (cleaned the garage today) My favorite old app is print shop for the Apple II. You could do stuff with it that later Winders and Mac versions could not do. Love those dot matrix graphics. Now it is a retro look. A step up (or down) from Asci II graphics. At 02:39 AM 9/7/2009, you wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: We just got another 9-year-old Pismo for my son to play Riven on. Works fine, then and now. Aha, Jim, now you've hit on the _real_ reason to buy trailing-edge hardware... it's not about saving money so much as it's about being able to run old games. Sometimes I wish I'd kept my Mac Plus around just to play Dark Castle. (Yes, I know I could do it though emulation, but it's just not the same.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090908/b3c6a011/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
The Mac II was the first mac without built in monitor. Bad ass machine at it's time - 1988. I still have mine and it still works! Hearing that thing boot up brings back high school memories. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: Ok, I have updated listing: Mac II Si, LCIII, 7200, G3 Beige, and G3 Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10. Still have the 17 Mac monitor with built in speakers also. All are available for free if you pay the shipping (or pick it up). Just send me your mailing address off-list, with a specific request. Looks like there might be a couple of takers for the Wall Street, but nobody has sent me an address yet. I think the II Si was the first mac without a builtin monitor At 11:51 PM 9/7/2009, you wrote: Alex, I have a 68030 II SE I am getting rid of. Would that work for you? I have a 17 Mac monitor with the built in speakers too, if you want it. I think it came with one of the first Mac types with the video I/O card from the factory. Very fancy (expensive) monitor in its day! Also have a 7200, G3 Beige and Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10 on it, looking for homes if anyone is interested. Pay the freight, and they are yours! Oh, and I have one other, can't remember the model, but it is also an 030, the small one. I used it for a headless print server for quite a while. (cleaned the garage today) My favorite old app is print shop for the Apple II. You could do stuff with it that later Winders and Mac versions could not do. Love those dot matrix graphics. Now it is a retro look. A step up (or down) from Asci II graphics. At 02:39 AM 9/7/2009, you wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: We just got another 9-year-old Pismo for my son to play Riven on. Works fine, then and now. Aha, Jim, now you've hit on the _real_ reason to buy trailing-edge hardware... it's not about saving money so much as it's about being able to run old games. Sometimes I wish I'd kept my Mac Plus around just to play Dark Castle. (Yes, I know I could do it though emulation, but it's just not the same.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
Wall Street Laptop Douglas Sherman 850 Yeoman Ct Vacaville, CA 95687 - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard Ok, I have updated listing: Mac II Si, LCIII, 7200, G3 Beige, and G3 Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10. Still have the 17 Mac monitor with built in speakers also. All are available for free if you pay the shipping (or pick it up). Just send me your mailing address off-list, with a specific request. Looks like there might be a couple of takers for the Wall Street, but nobody has sent me an address yet. I think the II Si was the first mac without a builtin monitor At 11:51 PM 9/7/2009, you wrote: Alex, I have a 68030 II SE I am getting rid of. Would that work for you? I have a 17 Mac monitor with the built in speakers too, if you want it. I think it came with one of the first Mac types with the video I/O card from the factory. Very fancy (expensive) monitor in its day! Also have a 7200, G3 Beige and Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10 on it, looking for homes if anyone is interested. Pay the freight, and they are yours! Oh, and I have one other, can't remember the model, but it is also an 030, the small one. I used it for a headless print server for quite a while. (cleaned the garage today) My favorite old app is print shop for the Apple II. You could do stuff with it that later Winders and Mac versions could not do. Love those dot matrix graphics. Now it is a retro look. A step up (or down) from Asci II graphics. At 02:39 AM 9/7/2009, you wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: We just got another 9-year-old Pismo for my son to play Riven on. Works fine, then and now. Aha, Jim, now you've hit on the _real_ reason to buy trailing-edge hardware... it's not about saving money so much as it's about being able to run old games. Sometimes I wish I'd kept my Mac Plus around just to play Dark Castle. (Yes, I know I could do it though emulation, but it's just not the same.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
Daughter will take the OSX laptop, if it is still available. She can pick up tomorrow after lunch in Ames. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.comwrote: Ok, I have updated listing: Mac II Si, LCIII, 7200, G3 Beige, and G3 Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10. Still have the 17 Mac monitor with built in speakers also. All are available for free if you pay the shipping (or pick it up). Just send me your mailing address off-list, with a specific request. Looks like there might be a couple of takers for the Wall Street, but nobody has sent me an address yet. I think the II Si was the first mac without a builtin monitor At 11:51 PM 9/7/2009, you wrote: Alex, I have a 68030 II SE I am getting rid of. Would that work for you? I have a 17 Mac monitor with the built in speakers too, if you want it. I think it came with one of the first Mac types with the video I/O card from the factory. Very fancy (expensive) monitor in its day! Also have a 7200, G3 Beige and Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10 on it, looking for homes if anyone is interested. Pay the freight, and they are yours! Oh, and I have one other, can't remember the model, but it is also an 030, the small one. I used it for a headless print server for quite a while. (cleaned the garage today) My favorite old app is print shop for the Apple II. You could do stuff with it that later Winders and Mac versions could not do. Love those dot matrix graphics. Now it is a retro look. A step up (or down) from Asci II graphics. At 02:39 AM 9/7/2009, you wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: We just got another 9-year-old Pismo for my son to play Riven on. Works fine, then and now. Aha, Jim, now you've hit on the _real_ reason to buy trailing-edge hardware... it's not about saving money so much as it's about being able to run old games. Sometimes I wish I'd kept my Mac Plus around just to play Dark Castle. (Yes, I know I could do it though emulation, but it's just not the same.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- DPAD. The young officer thought it very odd that his captain seemed to trust and confide in his chiefs more than his wardroom, but mustang officers had their own ways. -- Tom Clancy, Clear and Present Danger. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090908/1fdc371e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
First no monitor mac was the plain Mac II. Huge box with six NUBUS slots. Loved that thing. The IIfx was the Bomb though. Used funky RAM, 64 pin, and I had mine decked out with all slots full of 16meg sticks. Radius cards and extra SCSI. clay On Sep 8, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: Ok, I have updated listing: Mac II Si, LCIII, 7200, G3 Beige, and G3 Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10. Still have the 17 Mac monitor with built in speakers also. All are available for free if you pay the shipping (or pick it up). Just send me your mailing address off-list, with a specific request. Looks like there might be a couple of takers for the Wall Street, but nobody has sent me an address yet. I think the II Si was the first mac without a builtin monitor At 11:51 PM 9/7/2009, you wrote: Alex, I have a 68030 II SE I am getting rid of. Would that work for you? I have a 17 Mac monitor with the built in speakers too, if you want it. I think it came with one of the first Mac types with the video I/O card from the factory. Very fancy (expensive) monitor in its day! Also have a 7200, G3 Beige and Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10 on it, looking for homes if anyone is interested. Pay the freight, and they are yours! Oh, and I have one other, can't remember the model, but it is also an 030, the small one. I used it for a headless print server for quite a while. (cleaned the garage today) My favorite old app is print shop for the Apple II. You could do stuff with it that later Winders and Mac versions could not do. Love those dot matrix graphics. Now it is a retro look. A step up (or down) from Asci II graphics. At 02:39 AM 9/7/2009, you wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: We just got another 9-year-old Pismo for my son to play Riven on. Works fine, then and now. Aha, Jim, now you've hit on the _real_ reason to buy trailing-edge hardware... it's not about saving money so much as it's about being able to run old games. Sometimes I wish I'd kept my Mac Plus around just to play Dark Castle. (Yes, I know I could do it though emulation, but it's just not the same.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
Yeah, I forgot about those, because they were $$O expensive. I guess the IISi seemed like the first separate monitor mac to me because it was the first semi-affordable one. At that time I was still running on my IIGS At 11:24 PM 9/8/2009, you wrote: First no monitor mac was the plain Mac II. Huge box with six NUBUS slots. Loved that thing. The IIfx was the Bomb though. Used funky RAM, 64 pin, and I had mine decked out with all slots full of 16meg sticks. Radius cards and extra SCSI. clay On Sep 8, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: Ok, I have updated listing: Mac II Si, LCIII, 7200, G3 Beige, and G3 Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10. Still have the 17 Mac monitor with built in speakers also. All are available for free if you pay the shipping (or pick it up). Just send me your mailing address off-list, with a specific request. Looks like there might be a couple of takers for the Wall Street, but nobody has sent me an address yet. I think the II Si was the first mac without a builtin monitor At 11:51 PM 9/7/2009, you wrote: Alex, I have a 68030 II SE I am getting rid of. Would that work for you? I have a 17 Mac monitor with the built in speakers too, if you want it. I think it came with one of the first Mac types with the video I/O card from the factory. Very fancy (expensive) monitor in its day! Also have a 7200, G3 Beige and Blue/white Macs, along with a Wall street laptop with OS 10 on it, looking for homes if anyone is interested. Pay the freight, and they are yours! Oh, and I have one other, can't remember the model, but it is also an 030, the small one. I used it for a headless print server for quite a while. (cleaned the garage today) My favorite old app is print shop for the Apple II. You could do stuff with it that later Winders and Mac versions could not do. Love those dot matrix graphics. Now it is a retro look. A step up (or down) from Asci II graphics. At 02:39 AM 9/7/2009, you wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net wrote: We just got another 9-year-old Pismo for my son to play Riven on. Works fine, then and now. Aha, Jim, now you've hit on the _real_ reason to buy trailing-edge hardware... it's not about saving money so much as it's about being able to run old games. Sometimes I wish I'd kept my Mac Plus around just to play Dark Castle. (Yes, I know I could do it though emulation, but it's just not the same.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: The Mac II was the first mac without built in monitor. Bad ass machine at it's time - 1988. I still have mine and it still works! Hearing that thing boot up brings back high school memories. I, too, had one of the original Macintosh II systems. Man that thing was built. You could have taken out a rolling truck with one, thrown through the grill/radiator. Man, that was way back in the way back, too. *sighs* Shouldn't have pitched that one. Right into the trash it went during my last move. Not that I'd have any use for it today, but I really liked the look of it. EdB -- I've come to your planet on a Class IV Intergalactic Doom Freighter. - Adrian Monk -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090909/dcf5dd46/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs looking for a home Was: first impressions on snow leopard
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.comwrote: Yeah, I forgot about those, because they were $$O expensive. I guess the IISi seemed like the first separate monitor mac to me because it was the first semi-affordable one. At that time I was still running on my IIGS Oh God, yes. The Macintosh II was introduced in the late 80's, (86, 87) and a fully decked Macintosh II was something like $6,000 in yesterday dollars. That was a entry level car at the time, a nice used Corvette if you preferred. The Macintosh IIx, introduced the next year, was $10,000 fully decked with 40 MB hard drive. People want to talk about how expensive the $799 Mac Mini is . HA! Macs are down right affordable today, even the Pros. EdB -- I've come to your planet on a Class IV Intergalactic Doom Freighter. - Adrian Monk -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090909/888ffcc6/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
