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Christopher Kueny wrote: Before you talk about him disrespecting the flag, show us one really good example that you can prove, not a clip off FOX 'News'. Here's one that got my attention, when I heard his North Carolina victory speech. Was his father's coffin in Kenya draped in a USA flag, or was Barack Jr. proclaiming his allegiance to Kenya's flag? Barack Sr. was a citizen of Kenya, and an economist working for the Kenyan government, so I'm sure he didn't get a USA military funeral. And I don't think Jr. was talking about his stepfather, who lived and died in Indonesia. It's the founding ideals that the flag draped over my father's coffin stand for... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/06/AR2008050603099_pf.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Oh no. Did you get caught up in the lapel-pin thing? Or the mass email that says this or that (swore in on the Koran, won't respect the flag)? Did you ever get the follow up that says Oops, my bad, it was all a lie. A lot of folks had to send that one out after forwarding the 'Barak went to a Madrassa' email. Mainly so they could attack his Christian Pastor, but that is another story. Before you talk about him disrespecting the flag, show us one really good example that you can prove, not a clip off FOX 'News'. Chris Kueny 1985 300TD 1995 Chevy Silvarado P/U 2002 Subaru Outback Wagon 2005 Mini Cooper S On Apr 3, 2008, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too many good folks lost their lives for it! Pete -- Original message -- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since Kaleb has decided to lift the restriction on politics, I figured Id fire first. I am not voting for Monica's Boyfriend's Wife for president. Thanks, Tom Hargrave HYPERLINK http://www.kegkits.comwww.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rich wrote: Not GWB, Kerry. He has not released his records. Oh, Sorry. I thought you were talking about President Bush. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If you were not of draft age during Vietnam, then you have no standing to talk about the draft. Your future (life) was never in the balance. Don High School Class of '70 On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think I even noticed Vietnam until the '72 election cycle. I was born a couple of weeks after JFK died. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wonko the Sane wrote: If you were not of draft age during Vietnam, then you have no standing to talk about the draft. That's like saying that if I've never been sentenced to death, I have no standing to talk about capital punishment. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No. That is saying that if you didn't wonder on high school graduation night how many of your classmates (who didn't have the resources or grades to get into college) would be dead within a year in a jungle half a world away you don't really live it. Some of my peers died in that jungle. Appreciating what it is like to be on death row is much different than being there. I have been there. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: If you were not of draft age during Vietnam, then you have no standing to talk about the draft. That's like saying that if I've never been sentenced to death, I have no standing to talk about capital punishment. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Amen. That should shut him up. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. That is saying that if you didn't wonder on high school graduation night how many of your classmates (who didn't have the resources or grades to get into college) would be dead within a year in a jungle half a world away you don't really live it. Some of my peers died in that jungle. Appreciating what it is like to be on death row is much different than being there. I have been there. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: If you were not of draft age during Vietnam, then you have no standing to talk about the draft. That's like saying that if I've never been sentenced to death, I have no standing to talk about capital punishment. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I don't recall the word honorable ever being used to describe Bush's tenure in the National Guard. He clearly used his family connections as a means to avoid the draft and a combat stint in 'Nam. It would have been nice to hear him admit this instead of accepting the BS that his handlers came up with. I actually have no problem with Bush' avoiding service, but I took extreme exception to the blatant hypocrisy of the Bush campaign supporters who scorched John Kerry for his military record. Kerry was a man who, after all, actually DID serve in 'Nam, was wounded, and received a medal for his actions. On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LarryT wrote: Actually Bush was in the National Guard - an honorable part of the US Military. The information presented (and partly created by) by Dan Rather has been proven to be totally fabricated. D Rather retired because of it instead of basking in the glow of liberal adulation for exposing Bush. I think that was totally unfair. Hire a newsreader. Give him falsehoods to read to the public. Force his resignation because the public distrusts him after the falsehoods you made him read are proven to be false. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel wrote: Kerry was a man who, after all, actually DID serve in 'Nam, was wounded, and received a medal for his actions. It was his actions after he came home and saw a way into politics by riding Jane Fonda's coattails that I have a problem with. I don't care as much about the way he got reassigned stateside. I might have done the same thing if I were in his shoes and if I thought of it (ask for purple hearts for one injury and two scratches, then ask for reassignment on the basis of three purple hearts). Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What did you do in your own shoes, Mitch? On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Kerry was a man who, after all, actually DID serve in 'Nam, was wounded, and received a medal for his actions. It was his actions after he came home and saw a way into politics by riding Jane Fonda's coattails that I have a problem with. I don't care as much about the way he got reassigned stateside. I might have done the same thing if I were in his shoes and if I thought of it (ask for purple hearts for one injury and two scratches, then ask for reassignment on the basis of three purple hearts). Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Did he get a dishonorable discharge? He has never released his papers, though he said he would, rumors abound he was thrown out of the service. --R Mitch Haley wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Kerry was a man who, after all, actually DID serve in 'Nam, was wounded, and received a medal for his actions. It was his actions after he came home and saw a way into politics by riding Jane Fonda's coattails that I have a problem with. I don't care as much about the way he got reassigned stateside. I might have done the same thing if I were in his shoes and if I thought of it (ask for purple hearts for one injury and two scratches, then ask for reassignment on the basis of three purple hearts). Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel wrote: What did you do in your own shoes, Mitch? I don't think I even noticed Vietnam until the '72 election cycle. I was born a couple of weeks after JFK died. The assassination hit my mother pretty hard, I was almost born early that day. When I was 18, it was my belief that a draft was not legitimate unless Congress declared war. So I probably would have been sharing a prison cell with Cassius Clay. I've since realized that a draft is not legitimate unless the Thirteenth Amendment is repealed, so if our nation is in danger, I'll volunteer. If not, forget it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rich Thomas wrote: Did he get a dishonorable discharge? He has never released his papers, though he said he would, rumors abound he was thrown out of the service. WRONG! A lot of the papers were released including his honorable discharge from the Texas Air National Guard on October 1, 1973. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mitch Haley wrote: I've since realized that a draft is not legitimate unless the Thirteenth Amendment is repealed, so if our nation is in danger, I'll volunteer. If not, forget it. Not only are you wrong, but you have been wrong for quite some time. This is an old issue. The Supreme Court took up this exact question and determined that the draft does not violate the 13th Amendment. Before the United States entered the first World War, the Court had anticipated the objection that compulsory military service would violate the Thirteenth Amendment and had answered it in the following words: ''It introduced no novel doctrine with respect of services always treated as exceptional, and certainly was not intended to interdict enforcement of those duties which individuals owe to the State, such as services in the army, militia, on the jury, etc. The great purpose in view was liberty under the protection of effective government, not the destruction of the latter by depriving it of essential powers.'' Accordingly, in the Selective Draft Law Cases, it dismissed the objection under that amendment as a contention that was ''refuted by its mere statement. In addition, The Supreme Court has upheld the constitutionality of the draft. The Supreme Court's opinions leave no doubt of the constitutional validity of the act. In United States v. O'Brien, upholding a statute prohibiting the destruction of selective service registrants' certificate of registration, the Court, speaking through Chief Justice Warren, thought ''[t]he power of Congress to classify and conscript manpower for military service is 'beyond question.'''http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/article01/41.html#f1449#f1449 In noting Congress' ''broad constitutional power'' to raise and regulate armies and navies, the Court has specifically observed that the conscription act was passed ''pursuant to'' the grant of authority to Congress in clauses 12-14. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Not GWB, Kerry. He has not released his records. --R Donald Snook wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Did he get a dishonorable discharge? He has never released his papers, though he said he would, rumors abound he was thrown out of the service. WRONG! A lot of the papers were released including his honorable discharge from the Texas Air National Guard on October 1, 1973. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Donald Snook wrote: WRONG! A lot of the papers were released including his honorable discharge from the Texas Air National Guard on October 1, 1973. Oh, I thought Rich was asking about JFK (JohnForbesKerry, not JohnFitzgeraldKennedy). Seems like after Kerry came stateside, he got some political ideas, and asked the Admiral he was working for to discharge him, as he conscientiously objected to the war and wanted to devote himself full time to his agitprop activities with VVAW (www.vvaw.org) and run for Congress. Can't let military service get in the way of political ambition, now, can we? It seems he requested the Swift Boat assignment himself. I've seen three explanations floating about for that. 1: He wanted to be like the other JFK. 2: He'd rather be the commander of a small boat than just another officer on a larger vessel, or 3: It was perceived to be relatively safe duty. http://25thaviation.org/johnkerry/id15.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The Supreme Court's opinions leave no doubt of the constitutional validity of the act. The issuance of a SCOTUS opinion does not automatically remove all doubt on this or any other topic. How many times has the Supreme Court overturned itself? Just think of all the wrongheaded racial decisions which were overturned by Brown v Board of Education, which in turn was also incredibly wrongheaded. The opinion you cite has a good bit of circular logic. Let us assume the draft is necessary. Then, based on that assumption, let us assert that since it's needed it must be Constitutional. And then for good measure, let us hold this Amendment subservient to the prior terms of the document which it modifies. I'd rather rely upon the plain language of the 13A text, which prohibits involuntary servitude, and makes no exceptions for 'good' involuntary servitude. It's clear, unambiguous, and anyone can read it for himself. On the moral question upon which the SCOTUS bases their unconstitutional ruling: Prohibiting the draft would not have materially hampered our ability to execute military operations in WWI and WWII. The People were supportive of those wars, and for the most part, were willing to do their part. In the two conscripted unwars that followed, the popular support was not there, and for good reason. You can't force Patriotic Duty. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So did the draft dodging team of Cheney and Bush blatantly disrespect the flag, or did they disrespect our country's ideals by 1) actively avoiding service in the armed forces, and 2) leading us into a quagmire of a war that will demand our presence for another 100 years (not to mention claiming the lives of thousands of Americans. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:15 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too many good folks lost their lives for it! http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp IMHO, I still think he respects it. If nothing else he gets my respect for treating the American public like adults in his speech on race. When was the last time a politician didn't treat us like an ignorant toddler? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel wrote: So did the draft dodging team of Cheney and Bush blatantly disrespect the flag, or did they disrespect our country's ideals by 1) actively avoiding service in the armed forces, and 2) leading us into a quagmire of a war that will demand our presence for another 100 years (not to mention claiming the lives of thousands of Americans. Naw, I think they did it by pretending the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights in specific, imposed no limitations on their authority. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Or all of the above. On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: So did the draft dodging team of Cheney and Bush blatantly disrespect the flag, or did they disrespect our country's ideals by 1) actively avoiding service in the armed forces, and 2) leading us into a quagmire of a war that will demand our presence for another 100 years (not to mention claiming the lives of thousands of Americans. Naw, I think they did it by pretending the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights in specific, imposed no limitations on their authority. Mitch. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I expected to be flamed, not that I mind... On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 4:42 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or all of the above. On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: So did the draft dodging team of Cheney and Bush blatantly disrespect the flag, or did they disrespect our country's ideals by 1) actively avoiding service in the armed forces, and 2) leading us into a quagmire of a war that will demand our presence for another 100 years (not to mention claiming the lives of thousands of Americans. Naw, I think they did it by pretending the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights in specific, imposed no limitations on their authority. Mitch. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Actually Bush was in the National Guard - an honorable part of the US Military. The information presented (and partly created by) by Dan Rather has been proven to be totally fabricated. D Rather retired because of it instead of basking in the glow of liberal adulation for exposing Bush. Not sure what Cheney was doing - but given his current health he may have been unable to serve. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: So did the draft dodging team of Cheney and Bush blatantly disrespect the flag, or did they disrespect our country's ideals by 1) actively avoiding service in the armed forces, and 2) leading us into a quagmire of a war that will demand our presence for another 100 years (not to mention claiming the lives of thousands of Americans. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:15 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too many good folks lost their lives for it! http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp IMHO, I still think he respects it. If nothing else he gets my respect for treating the American public like adults in his speech on race. When was the last time a politician didn't treat us like an ignorant toddler? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Too bad that the letter was put out as it was not what it pretended to be. Interesting that in an interview his commander said that while he had not written that one, it was certainly what he would have said had he written the letter. Somehow the message got a lot less press than did the messenger. I will concede a strategy win to the folks who made a combat wounded vet look less patriotic that a NG pilot whose commander did have those words to say about him. But I am one of those who was happier with the semi-ban on political comments on this list. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 5:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: Actually Bush was in the National Guard - an honorable part of the US Military. The information presented (and partly created by) by Dan Rather has been proven to be totally fabricated. D Rather retired because of it instead of basking in the glow of liberal adulation for exposing Bush. Not sure what Cheney was doing - but given his current health he may have been unable to serve. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: So did the draft dodging team of Cheney and Bush blatantly disrespect the flag, or did they disrespect our country's ideals by 1) actively avoiding service in the armed forces, and 2) leading us into a quagmire of a war that will demand our presence for another 100 years (not to mention claiming the lives of thousands of Americans. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:15 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too many good folks lost their lives for it! http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp IMHO, I still think he respects it. If nothing else he gets my respect for treating the American public like adults in his speech on race. When was the last time a politician didn't treat us like an ignorant toddler? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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LarryT wrote: Actually Bush was in the National Guard - an honorable part of the US Military. The information presented (and partly created by) by Dan Rather has been proven to be totally fabricated. D Rather retired because of it instead of basking in the glow of liberal adulation for exposing Bush. I think that was totally unfair. Hire a newsreader. Give him falsehoods to read to the public. Force his resignation because the public distrusts him after the falsehoods you made him read are proven to be false. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too many good folks lost their lives for it! Pete -- Original message -- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since Kaleb has decided to lift the restriction on politics, I figured Id fire first. I am not voting for Monica's Boyfriend's Wife for president. Thanks, Tom Hargrave HYPERLINK http://www.kegkits.comwww.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics:
Yup. Me neither. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too many good folks lost their lives for it! Pete -- Original message -- From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since Kaleb has decided to lift the restriction on politics, I figured I'd fire first. I am not voting for Monica's Boyfriend's Wife for president. Thanks, Tom Hargrave HYPERLINK http://www.kegkits.comwww.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too many good folks lost their lives for it! http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp IMHO, I still think he respects it. If nothing else he gets my respect for treating the American public like adults in his speech on race. When was the last time a politician didn't treat us like an ignorant toddler? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: Obama
There is a lot of misleading press out there about all of the candidates and it's only going to get worse. Understand that I'm a Republican but: I still know that the press about Obama disrespecting our flag is BS. There is one photo circulating that shows him turned away from the American flag during a pledge. All I can say is that you can do a lot with a camera and angles and timing. The same goes for the rumor that he's Muslim - he is not. Also, the most recent flaming attack is where he's tied to statements made by his (Christian, not Muslim) minister. Just because his minister is way out in left field does not mean that he is. In other words, I believe Obama to be a decent, respectable man. I just can't vote for him. Our political and economic views are too different. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too many good folks lost their lives for it! http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp IMHO, I still think he respects it. If nothing else he gets my respect for treating the American public like adults in his speech on race. When was the last time a politician didn't treat us like an ignorant toddler? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: Obama
Tom Hargrave wrote: In other words, I believe Obama to be a decent, respectable man. I just can't vote for him. Our political and economic views are too different. I think he's a man who will do anything to win. (AKA a politician) I also disagree with his political views, as I do with the views of Willie's Marxist wife. I do think it's ridiculous for so many Osama supporters to point fingers at Hitlery and claim that she's engaging in dirty politics, when his entire career has been dirty politics. For crying out loud, Mr Honorable got his state Senate seat by having all his opponents tossed off a ballot. (Democratic primary, in a purely Democratic district, 1996) After that, his achievements have consisted of delivering speeches well. If that's a qualification for the Presidency, we may as well pick an actor at random and put him/her in the white house. How about somebody with a really awesome speaking voice, like James Earl Jones? (actually, I'd vote for Jones before I'd vote for Osama, Hitlery, or McLame) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: Obama
well if his preacher is way out in left field, and he is supposedly not, then why would he continue to go to a church that he does not agree with the minister? And why would a minister be talking about such things like that at church anyway, what does it have to do with god? Tom Hargrave wrote: There is a lot of misleading press out there about all of the candidates and it's only going to get worse. Understand that I'm a Republican but: I still know that the press about Obama disrespecting our flag is BS. There is one photo circulating that shows him turned away from the American flag during a pledge. All I can say is that you can do a lot with a camera and angles and timing. The same goes for the rumor that he's Muslim - he is not. Also, the most recent flaming attack is where he's tied to statements made by his (Christian, not Muslim) minister. Just because his minister is way out in left field does not mean that he is. In other words, I believe Obama to be a decent, respectable man. I just can't vote for him. Our political and economic views are too different. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too many good folks lost their lives for it! http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp IMHO, I still think he respects it. If nothing else he gets my respect for treating the American public like adults in his speech on race. When was the last time a politician didn't treat us like an ignorant toddler? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: Obama
That question will probably go unanswered here. Unfortunately, the tone of Banned leaks over to this list enough that anyone ethnically diverse has disappeared. I can't in good faith recommend this list to any of my black friends. But I'll gladly tell any pudgy white guy I meet all about it - regardless of what they are driving. -Dave Walton On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well if his preacher is way out in left field, and he is supposedly not, then why would he continue to go to a church that he does not agree with the minister? And why would a minister be talking about such things like that at church anyway, what does it have to do with god? Tom Hargrave wrote: There is a lot of misleading press out there about all of the candidates and it's only going to get worse. Understand that I'm a Republican but: I still know that the press about Obama disrespecting our flag is BS. There is one photo circulating that shows him turned away from the American flag during a pledge. All I can say is that you can do a lot with a camera and angles and timing. The same goes for the rumor that he's Muslim - he is not. Also, the most recent flaming attack is where he's tied to statements made by his (Christian, not Muslim) minister. Just because his minister is way out in left field does not mean that he is. In other words, I believe Obama to be a decent, respectable man. I just can't vote for him. Our political and economic views are too different. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too many good folks lost their lives for it! http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp IMHO, I still think he respects it. If nothing else he gets my respect for treating the American public like adults in his speech on race. When was the last time a politician didn't treat us like an ignorant toddler? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: Obama
Are you opening up the group to religion as well as politics? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 1:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: Obama well if his preacher is way out in left field, and he is supposedly not, then why would he continue to go to a church that he does not agree with the minister? And why would a minister be talking about such things like that at church anyway, what does it have to do with god? Tom Hargrave wrote: There is a lot of misleading press out there about all of the candidates and it's only going to get worse. Understand that I'm a Republican but: I still know that the press about Obama disrespecting our flag is BS. There is one photo circulating that shows him turned away from the American flag during a pledge. All I can say is that you can do a lot with a camera and angles and timing. The same goes for the rumor that he's Muslim - he is not. Also, the most recent flaming attack is where he's tied to statements made by his (Christian, not Muslim) minister. Just because his minister is way out in left field does not mean that he is. In other words, I believe Obama to be a decent, respectable man. I just can't vote for him. Our political and economic views are too different. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will not vote for a man who blatantly disrespects our flag, too many good folks lost their lives for it! http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp IMHO, I still think he respects it. If nothing else he gets my respect for treating the American public like adults in his speech on race. When was the last time a politician didn't treat us like an ignorant toddler? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: Obama
I agree! I don't tell my Black friends either. Or my white friends. Neither my Gay friends. Family would be digusted. Church group offended As a matter of fact, I try not to think of it myself Pete dave walton wrote: That question will probably go unanswered here. Unfortunately, the tone of Banned leaks over to this list enough that anyone ethnically diverse has disappeared. I can't in good faith recommend this list to any of my black friends. But I'll gladly tell any pudgy white guy I meet all about it - regardless of what they are driving. -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: Obama
I don't mean to chastise anyone, that's just the way it is here. Nothing wrong with it. I don't talk about gay rights at my nephew's boy scout meetings (he has 2 mommies), and I don't talk about my belief in the right to bear arm's on the Oberlin forum. That's life. -Dave Walton On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: I can't in good faith recommend this list to any of my black friends. I'm trying to figure out what was said that would offend. I seem to recall some talk of immigrants, and what vehicles get exported to Mexico, but can't remember much else. I might call a certain politian Osama Bin Hussein, but I make up nasty nicknames for all the crooks in DC, not just the dark skinned ones. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: Obama
But it's ethically diverse! --R dave walton wrote: That question will probably go unanswered here. Unfortunately, the tone of Banned leaks over to this list enough that anyone ethnically diverse has disappeared. I can't in good faith recommend this list to any of my black friends. But I'll gladly tell any pudgy white guy I meet all about it - regardless of what they are driving. -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: Obama
dave walton wrote: I can't in good faith recommend this list to any of my black friends. I'm trying to figure out what was said that would offend. I seem to recall some talk of immigrants, and what vehicles get exported to Mexico, but can't remember much else. I might call a certain politian Osama Bin Hussein, but I make up nasty nicknames for all the crooks in DC, not just the dark skinned ones. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Politics: Obama
We have black people here, we do not have a problem with them. dave walton wrote: That question will probably go unanswered here. Unfortunately, the tone of Banned leaks over to this list enough that anyone ethnically diverse has disappeared. I can't in good faith recommend this list to any of my black friends. But I'll gladly tell any pudgy white guy I meet all about it - regardless of what they are driving. -Dave Walton -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
