[MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls
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Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls
On July 27, 2015 at 3:50 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What amazes me is that there are at least half a dozen different indivisuals who recently had my phone number. How long does Verizon wait before reassigning recently abandoned listings? I'm not sure what constitutes 'recent' any more, but I still get more calls for the previous owners of a number I've had for over two years than I get for myself (well, these days I pretty much get zero calls for me on that line because I've mostly abandoned it). Most of the calls are from bill collectors on presumably old debt, and one guy keeps persistently calling to sell them something for their home business, but I also get automated calls whenever they schedule a Dish Network field tech visit to their house or they fail to pay their Dish bill, so either they're still giving out the number or they haven't changed it with Dish. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On July 27, 2015 at 3:52 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So you won't feel at all upset when you don't check the voicemail for a couple hours and then find out mamma was in a car accident? If I ignore a call from an unknown number, and a new VM pops up a minute or two later, I listen to my messages then. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dunno, haven't looked into it that closely. I believe it's tied back to the national Do Not Call registry as well as the vendor's own list of accumulated robocaller numbers. I just know it's far from foolproof despite it being presented as such. I think our VOIP guys tested it for fun earlier this year and found it to be meh. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 27, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So how do you get calls from people you've never talked to before? What if your wife calls from somewhere else because her cell phone has died? -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls I don't think this was spam, necessarily, as it was someone's email account that got hijacked and was used to send out the spam. Pretty coo on on Yahoo and some of the other bulk mail providers. The nomorobo thing is legit, although it's not perfect. If your caller's service provider doesn't send the number in the proper ANI (10 digit) format, it won't respond and the call gets a busy or intercept signal. I just don't answer calls on my land line or mobile that I don't recognize. It's that simple. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 27, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: W140 wrote: Free service blocks pesky robocalls* Spam - on how to stop spam. Ironic The spammers are masterful at sending spam on how to stop spam. Similarly I suspect a lot of viruses are spread by the antivirus companies. One reason I never fully trusted kaspersky. Russian virus propagators selling anti-virus, or legitimate Ruskies? Oxymoron? anti-virus people blackmailing gullible users THe list goes on. How about stockbrokers turned financial advisors scamming people out of millions? How about IRS taking money at gunpoint and using the power/money to favor certain parties/candidates? Its all the same. Theft/extortion/blackmail. It used to be limited to the gangsters. Now the politicians are fully involved too; as are seeming legitimate businesses. Microsoft forcing you to upgrade and buy new hardware? Or forcing you to rent software forever? That used to be extortion or blackmail. Now it is normalThe goobers and coppers that are supposed to intervene and stop the extortion are busy trying to figure out how to extort more money with traffic cameras and other unconstitutional means. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To sea ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls
I love roboclals left on my answering machine. They are so easy to delete. On an unrelated topic, since moving to the new home I have been barraged with voicemails (usually in Spanish, but not always) for a variety of people. For example, a soccer Dad leaving detailed instructions to another soccer Dad on carpooling their little darlings. Also, several for an anesthesiologist, the last one which made an offer to hire him as a consultant for $45,000/month (!). I was tempted to inhabit the guy's character and obtain a one month advance (cash preferred).. What amazes me is that there are at least half a dozen different indivisuals who recently had my phone number. How long does Verizon wait before reassigning recently abandoned listings? Andrew On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So how do you get calls from people you've never talked to before? What if your wife calls from somewhere else because her cell phone has died? -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls I don't think this was spam, necessarily, as it was someone's email account that got hijacked and was used to send out the spam. Pretty coo on on Yahoo and some of the other bulk mail providers. The nomorobo thing is legit, although it's not perfect. If your caller's service provider doesn't send the number in the proper ANI (10 digit) format, it won't respond and the call gets a busy or intercept signal. I just don't answer calls on my land line or mobile that I don't recognize. It's that simple. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 27, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: W140 wrote: Free service blocks pesky robocalls* Spam - on how to stop spam. Ironic The spammers are masterful at sending spam on how to stop spam. Similarly I suspect a lot of viruses are spread by the antivirus companies. One reason I never fully trusted kaspersky. Russian virus propagators selling anti-virus, or legitimate Ruskies? Oxymoron? anti-virus people blackmailing gullible users THe list goes on. How about stockbrokers turned financial advisors scamming people out of millions? How about IRS taking money at gunpoint and using the power/money to favor certain parties/candidates? Its all the same. Theft/extortion/blackmail. It used to be limited to the gangsters. Now the politicians are fully involved too; as are seeming legitimate businesses. Microsoft forcing you to upgrade and buy new hardware? Or forcing you to rent software forever? That used to be extortion or blackmail. Now it is normalThe goobers and coppers that are supposed to intervene and stop the extortion are busy trying to figure out how to extort more money with traffic cameras and other unconstitutional means. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If it's important, they'll leave a voice mail and you can call them back. If it's not important enough for them to leave a message, you didn't miss out on much. Mitch. On July 27, 2015 at 3:16 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So how do you get calls from people you've never talked to before? What if your wife calls from somewhere else because her cell phone has died? -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com I just don't answer calls on my land line or mobile that I don't recognize. It's that simple. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So you won't feel at all upset when you don't check the voicemail for a couple hours and then find out mamma was in a car accident? Are you okay with people dumping your calls to voicemail? Who leaves voicemail anymore? Actually Angie and I got into an argument about that last one, I call, she doesn't answer, I hang up. She should know I called. She never calls back but gets upset because I didn't leave a voicemail. YOU KNEW I CALLED! All I'd have left on the voicemail was Hi, its me, call me back.Apparently young people are leading the charge to abandon voicemail... -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls If it's important, they'll leave a voice mail and you can call them back. If it's not important enough for them to leave a message, you didn't miss out on much. Mitch. On July 27, 2015 at 3:16 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So how do you get calls from people you've never talked to before? What if your wife calls from somewhere else because her cell phone has died? -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com I just don't answer calls on my land line or mobile that I don't recognize. It's that simple. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Becuase they have a near-monopoly (oligopoly?). On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So I have been on a chat with ATT for the last 1:20 trying to get them to enable me to link my dad's acct to my acct, I set his up like 15 yr ago and forgot the login. 2 different guys, the recent one wants to know the state, I say KY and he asks what that is. Now I am getting transferred to another person: Aaren G: Your inquiry requires contact with a specialist who handles accounts in your area. Allow me a moment to connect you to a representative who will be able to assist you. How do these people stay in business? --R On 7/27/15 4:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On July 27, 2015 at 3:52 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So you won't feel at all upset when you don't check the voicemail for a couple hours and then find out mamma was in a car accident? If I ignore a call from an unknown number, and a new VM pops up a minute or two later, I listen to my messages then. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So I have been on a chat with ATT for the last 1:20 trying to get them to enable me to link my dad's acct to my acct, I set his up like 15 yr ago and forgot the login. 2 different guys, the recent one wants to know the state, I say KY and he asks what that is. Now I am getting transferred to another person: Aaren G: Your inquiry requires contact with a specialist who handles accounts in your area. Allow me a moment to connect you to a representative who will be able to assist you. How do these people stay in business? --R On 7/27/15 4:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On July 27, 2015 at 3:52 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So you won't feel at all upset when you don't check the voicemail for a couple hours and then find out mamma was in a car accident? If I ignore a call from an unknown number, and a new VM pops up a minute or two later, I listen to my messages then. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So I have been on a chat with ATT for the last 1:20 trying to get them to enable me to link my dad's acct to my acct, I set his up like 15 yr ago and forgot the login. 2 different guys, the recent one wants to know the state, I say KY and he asks what that is. Now I am getting transferred to another person: Aaren G: Your inquiry requires contact with a specialist who handles accounts in your area. Allow me a moment to connect you to a representative who will be able to assist you. How do these people stay in business? --R Its like trying to find intelligent life forms at Banco de mehico (B of A) or wells cargo. Ain't happenin... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So I finally got into the acct once they told me the login name, which I had forgotten. Looking at the bill I see 2 companies charging a total of $26/month, one of them a domestic LD provider that seems to charge 5cents/min but then $14/mo for the privilege, and another is an INTERNATIONAL long distance provider that charges like $12/mo for something unclear, there have never been any intl LD calls from the line. I got Stella the 3rd CS rep, to delete the past month's charges but I have to call the ripoff companies to try to get reimbursement for the past. --R On 7/27/15 6:12 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: The prevailing business practice seems to be; If you throw enough crap against a wall, some of it will stick. Don't forget. always demand to be given the direct contact details for the senior chairman of the board. Customers can either be satisfied with quality service.. or they can take satisfaction via any means which satisfies them.. the customer. You get to choose.. On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So I have been on a chat with ATT for the last 1:20 trying to get them to enable me to link my dad's acct to my acct, I set his up like 15 yr ago and forgot the login. 2 different guys, the recent one wants to know the state, I say KY and he asks what that is. Now I am getting transferred to another person: Aaren G: Your inquiry requires contact with a specialist who handles accounts in your area. Allow me a moment to connect you to a representative who will be able to assist you. How do these people stay in business? --R Its like trying to find intelligent life forms at Banco de mehico (B of A) or wells cargo. Ain't happenin... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: STOP robocalls
The prevailing business practice seems to be; If you throw enough crap against a wall, some of it will stick. Don't forget. always demand to be given the direct contact details for the senior chairman of the board. Customers can either be satisfied with quality service.. or they can take satisfaction via any means which satisfies them.. the customer. You get to choose.. On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So I have been on a chat with ATT for the last 1:20 trying to get them to enable me to link my dad's acct to my acct, I set his up like 15 yr ago and forgot the login. 2 different guys, the recent one wants to know the state, I say KY and he asks what that is. Now I am getting transferred to another person: Aaren G: Your inquiry requires contact with a specialist who handles accounts in your area. Allow me a moment to connect you to a representative who will be able to assist you. How do these people stay in business? --R Its like trying to find intelligent life forms at Banco de mehico (B of A) or wells cargo. Ain't happenin... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's nuthin, try clawing back over $1200 in international long distance. I was cold-called by an ATT sales weasel and foolishly agreed to an international plan, but instead of getting the 5¢ per minute plan he talked about, I end up with a plan that charged roughly $1 per minute. Didn't pay attention to November and December's bills, which were debited directly from my checking, January rolls around and I finally take a look at the finances and H!#!? I immediately called ATT and thanks to God the lady was American. She was able to fix the January bill, but I would have to deal with managers about December and November. My next call was to my bank, once again I was blessed to speak to a native, this lady educated me on the exact phrasing of the spoken and written words to communicate to ATT to cancel the debit. That was key. Bank then reversed the December debit for me, once they had a copy of my communication with ATT as well as statement from me that I did not agree to the terms of the international plan that they charged. ATT would have to send me a paper bill, and I would thenceforth pay by my choice of means. ATT kept sending me bills for December, I only paid the current balance, and once per week or more I'd call to speak with a manager about it, and dutifully recorded their name and date and what they said they would do. After a couple months I finally got rather upset at a manager with whom I'd spoken several times who promised to refer the matter to suchsuch department but nothing ever came of it. The next month I get a notice from their collections department. I immediately called the collections number, dumped the whole story all over the collections lady, let her know the names and dates and promises from all the managers, and pointed out that I've been a loyal ATT customer for over 14 years and that they had made a huge profit on my account during that time. I said I was a very satisfied customer up until this issue, and intended to keep ATT, but if this matter was not resolved then I would have to find another service provider. She puts me on hold for about ten minutes and when she returns, December debt is erased, November is corrected as well, and the next month I had a credit of about $200. I've still got ATT, but I look VERY CLOSELY at those bills now. -Max On July 27, 2015 6:27:18 PM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So I finally got into the acct once they told me the login name, which I had forgotten. Looking at the bill I see 2 companies charging a total of $26/month, one of them a domestic LD provider that seems to charge 5cents/min but then $14/mo for the privilege, and another is an INTERNATIONAL long distance provider that charges like $12/mo for something unclear, there have never been any intl LD calls from the line. I got Stella the 3rd CS rep, to delete the past month's charges but I have to call the ripoff companies to try to get reimbursement for the past. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
