Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
it's coming On 9/19/2013 12:38 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Why they don't charge fat people more is a mystery to me. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: There are a LOT of folks that see this as another something for nothing deal (they either won't have to pay or don't have anything now). Cranial-rectal inversion is not part of their decision process. Having said that, several aspects of the existing system did (and many still do) require fixing. Scott -Original Message- Roger wrote: ... Wonderful bunch of garbage we've been sold as taxpayers. I keep wondering when the electorate will remove its collective head from its collective butts and right this ship of state. ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
I too have an individual plan via AARP and Aetna. Aetna has already advised me that I can keep my current plan (not the greatest), but they won't know what it will cost until January. AND that if I cancel it for a gov't exchange plan (which I don't know what it will cost), I won't be able to get it again because the plan will no longer be offered here in Georgia. Wonderful bunch of garbage we've been sold as taxpayers. I keep wondering when the electorate will remove its collective head from its collective butts and right this ship of state. After all, they did right the Concordia. Can be parbuckle the POTUS and congress? Just some more pain to share. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
I too have an individual plan via AARP and Aetna. Aetna has already advised me that I can keep my current plan (not the greatest), but they won't know what it will cost until January. AND that if I cancel it for a gov't exchange plan (which I don't know what it will cost), I won't be able to get it again because the plan will no longer be offered here in Georgia. They really won't tell you the cost of January's coverage until January? The deadline to enroll in the exchange for January 1 is December 15. You have until the end of March to enroll in the exchange, so it sounds like you're stuck buying January coverage at a mystery price from Aetna, or signing up for dual coverage in January and canceling one when you know the pricing. BTW, is there any way to get your current coverage without handing a nice fat commission to the Democratic party lobbying arm of AARP? Those bastards used member money to lobby members to vote against their beliefs. The good news is that with Obamacare's ban on age based price discrimination, and requirement that the young sign up to subsidize it, you should be seeing lower prices in the exchange and in your current plan, if there are any young people in your current plan. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
There are a LOT of folks that see this as another something for nothing deal (they either won't have to pay or don't have anything now). Cranial-rectal inversion is not part of their decision process. Having said that, several aspects of the existing system did (and many still do) require fixing. Scott -Original Message- Roger wrote: ... Wonderful bunch of garbage we've been sold as taxpayers. I keep wondering when the electorate will remove its collective head from its collective butts and right this ship of state. ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
Age and tobacco do affect pricing. Anthem BCBS tells me 'open enrollment' starts Oct 1 but I can keep my current plan until it expires and I will have a '30 day' special enrollment period. All this enrollment open closed special period stuff is a bunch of B.S. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:06 AM, m...@voyager.net wrote: I too have an individual plan via AARP and Aetna. Aetna has already advised me that I can keep my current plan (not the greatest), but they won't know what it will cost until January. AND that if I cancel it for a gov't exchange plan (which I don't know what it will cost), I won't be able to get it again because the plan will no longer be offered here in Georgia. They really won't tell you the cost of January's coverage until January? The deadline to enroll in the exchange for January 1 is December 15. You have until the end of March to enroll in the exchange, so it sounds like you're stuck buying January coverage at a mystery price from Aetna, or signing up for dual coverage in January and canceling one when you know the pricing. BTW, is there any way to get your current coverage without handing a nice fat commission to the Democratic party lobbying arm of AARP? Those bastards used member money to lobby members to vote against their beliefs. The good news is that with Obamacare's ban on age based price discrimination, and requirement that the young sign up to subsidize it, you should be seeing lower prices in the exchange and in your current plan, if there are any young people in your current plan. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
Why they don't charge fat people more is a mystery to me. On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: There are a LOT of folks that see this as another something for nothing deal (they either won't have to pay or don't have anything now). Cranial-rectal inversion is not part of their decision process. Having said that, several aspects of the existing system did (and many still do) require fixing. Scott -Original Message- Roger wrote: ... Wonderful bunch of garbage we've been sold as taxpayers. I keep wondering when the electorate will remove its collective head from its collective butts and right this ship of state. ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
Roger wrote: ...Wonderful bunch of garbage we've been sold as taxpayers. I keep wondering when the electorate will remove its collective head from its collective butts and right this ship of state... Here we are, okiebenz. Why do we not do it our selves? We fix our cars and have this okiebenz email resource to access the braintrust of experience to guide us. How come when we speak about health care we think that the government owes us? ...or whatever? Why don't we form ways to access this okiebenz braintrust about care of health or have a different forum other than mbz at okiebenz to do this stuff ourselves? Sawbones ain't the only way to do health care, I suspect. Sous-Vide sounds wonderful cooking. OKDon and others tell about cooking bread. All this stuff is do-it-yourself at okiebenz and is totally health care and not health care.. I bet we could do most of the sawbones health care the same way - i.e. ourselves. Including meds found on the ground or processed at home, like Rick Simpson oil which by youtube accounts solves a wide variety of major sawbones health care issues. This green planet and braintrust was not given for the $$wealthy$$ sawbones and bigpharma cohorts alone - we live here - we can do this. Anyone? And, when it gets tough, we will get tough. Lessee, we all know that when they outlaw guns, then those who own guns will be outlaws. Similarly, somewhat, when they demand we pay $$insco$$ for health care then some without health care $$insco$$ will be outlaws. ACA is merely a ploy of $$insco$$, correct? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
Age and tobacco do affect pricing. You're right, I wasn't thinking when I said that. They do have a cap on the multiplier between the oldest and the newest, which still results in a price increase for the young and a decrease for the old. OTOH, if you have a medicare supplement policy, everybody in your rating group is old anyway. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
was that an employer provided policy or direct purchase? I also have BCBS thru my wife's employer - the VA system (Dept of Vet Affairs) so I have n idea whether we are exempt or not. I did hear spouses on policies can be dropped. It also appears many regulations continue to be written by faceless, unelected bureaucrats. aren;t we lucky?? LarryT On 9/15/2013 10:45 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be non-renewed. Thanks Obummer! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
LarryT wrote: It also appears many regulations continue to be written by faceless, unelected bureaucrats. aren;t we lucky?? We are getting the best regulations money can buy. Insco money, lobbyist money. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
Faceless! Wow! Shades of the X Files. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled LarryT wrote: It also appears many regulations continue to be written by faceless, unelected bureaucrats. aren;t we lucky?? We are getting the best regulations money can buy. Insco money, lobbyist money. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
I have an individual plan. On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Faceless! Wow! Shades of the X Files. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled LarryT wrote: It also appears many regulations continue to be written by faceless, unelected bureaucrats. aren;t we lucky?? We are getting the best regulations money can buy. Insco money, lobbyist money. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
Is that thru your job or what? At my job we have bcbs anthem Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:45 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be non-renewed. Thanks Obummer! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
I have an individual plan. Looks like what I will be offered will cost 50% more. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Is that thru your job or what? At my job we have bcbs anthem Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:45 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be non-renewed. Thanks Obummer! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
Brian Toscano wrote: Individual. I have to wait until 10/1 to find out what's available. If I look online today, my current Anthem (BCBS in many states) plan is still available. lol. But...but, my President promised me we could keep our existing health insurance as long as we wanted to...no, wait, he didn't say health insurance, he said health care, and we assumed he meant to say insurance but he really meant we could keep our existing doctors. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
POTUS is just PC for lying scumbag these days. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Brian Toscano wrote: Individual. I have to wait until 10/1 to find out what's available. If I look online today, my current Anthem (BCBS in many states) plan is still available. lol. But...but, my President promised me we could keep our existing health insurance as long as we wanted to...no, wait, he didn't say health insurance, he said health care, and we assumed he meant to say insurance but he really meant we could keep our existing doctors. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
Let's see. With 30-45 million more patients and TBD fewer doctors, what could possibly go wring? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
This doesn't belong on this list! On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be non-renewed. Thanks Obummer! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be non-renewed. Thanks Obummer! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
Individual plan or employer? Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com writes: Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be non-renewed. Thanks Obummer! -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
Individual. I have to wait until 10/1 to find out what's available. If I look online today, my current Anthem (BCBS in many states) plan is still available. lol. On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Individual plan or employer? Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com writes: Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be non-renewed. Thanks Obummer! -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
So, it begins. I wouldn't count on answers by 10/1 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled Individual. I have to wait until 10/1 to find out what's available. If I look online today, my current Anthem (BCBS in many states) plan is still available. lol. On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
yep, so much for keeping your existing plan. On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: So, it begins. I wouldn't count on answers by 10/1 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled Individual. I have to wait until 10/1 to find out what's available. If I look online today, my current Anthem (BCBS in many states) plan is still available. lol. On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com