Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-20 Thread Larry T

it's coming

On 9/19/2013 12:38 PM, Brian Toscano wrote:

Why they don't charge fat people more is a mystery to me.



On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:



There are a LOT of folks that see this as another something for nothing
deal (they either won't have to pay or don't have anything now).
Cranial-rectal inversion is not part of their decision process.

Having said that, several aspects of the existing system did (and many
still
do) require fixing.

Scott


-Original Message-
Roger wrote:

... Wonderful bunch of garbage we've been sold as taxpayers. I keep
wondering when the electorate will remove its collective head from its
collective butts and right this ship of state. ...



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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-19 Thread rogerhga
I too have an individual plan via AARP and Aetna. Aetna has already advised me 
that I can keep my current plan (not the greatest), but they won't know what it 
will cost until January. AND that if I cancel it for a gov't exchange plan 
(which I don't know what it will cost), I won't be able to get it again because 
the plan will no longer be offered here in Georgia. Wonderful bunch of garbage 
we've been sold as taxpayers. I keep wondering when the electorate will remove 
its collective head from its collective butts and right this ship of state. 
After all, they did right the Concordia. Can be parbuckle the POTUS and 
congress? 
Just some more pain to share. 
Best Wishes, 

Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) 

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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-19 Thread mlh
 I too have an individual plan via AARP and Aetna. Aetna has already
 advised me that I can keep my current plan (not the greatest), but they
 won't know what it will cost until January. AND that if I cancel it for a
 gov't exchange plan (which I don't know what it will cost), I won't be
 able to get it again because the plan will no longer be offered here in
 Georgia.

They really won't tell you the cost of January's coverage until January?
The deadline to enroll in the exchange for January 1 is December 15.
You have until the end of March to enroll in the exchange, so it sounds
like you're stuck buying January coverage at a mystery price from Aetna,
or signing up for dual coverage in January and canceling one when you know
the pricing.

BTW, is there any way to get your current coverage without handing a nice
fat commission to the Democratic party lobbying arm of AARP? Those
bastards used member money to lobby members to vote against their beliefs.

The good news is that with Obamacare's ban on age based price
discrimination, and requirement that the young sign up to subsidize it,
you should be seeing lower prices in the exchange and in your current
plan, if there are any young people in your current plan.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-19 Thread Scott Ritchey


There are a LOT of folks that see this as another something for nothing
deal (they either won't have to pay or don't have anything now).
Cranial-rectal inversion is not part of their decision process.

Having said that, several aspects of the existing system did (and many still
do) require fixing.

Scott

 -Original Message-
 Roger wrote:
 
 ... Wonderful bunch of garbage we've been sold as taxpayers. I keep
 wondering when the electorate will remove its collective head from its
 collective butts and right this ship of state. ...



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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-19 Thread Brian Toscano
Age and tobacco do affect pricing.

Anthem BCBS tells me 'open enrollment' starts Oct 1 but I can keep my
current plan until it expires and I will have a '30 day' special enrollment
period.

All this enrollment open closed special period stuff is a bunch of B.S.





On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:06 AM, m...@voyager.net wrote:

  I too have an individual plan via AARP and Aetna. Aetna has already
  advised me that I can keep my current plan (not the greatest), but they
  won't know what it will cost until January. AND that if I cancel it for a
  gov't exchange plan (which I don't know what it will cost), I won't be
  able to get it again because the plan will no longer be offered here in
  Georgia.

 They really won't tell you the cost of January's coverage until January?
 The deadline to enroll in the exchange for January 1 is December 15.
 You have until the end of March to enroll in the exchange, so it sounds
 like you're stuck buying January coverage at a mystery price from Aetna,
 or signing up for dual coverage in January and canceling one when you know
 the pricing.

 BTW, is there any way to get your current coverage without handing a nice
 fat commission to the Democratic party lobbying arm of AARP? Those
 bastards used member money to lobby members to vote against their beliefs.

 The good news is that with Obamacare's ban on age based price
 discrimination, and requirement that the young sign up to subsidize it,
 you should be seeing lower prices in the exchange and in your current
 plan, if there are any young people in your current plan.

 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-19 Thread Brian Toscano
Why they don't charge fat people more is a mystery to me.



On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:



 There are a LOT of folks that see this as another something for nothing
 deal (they either won't have to pay or don't have anything now).
 Cranial-rectal inversion is not part of their decision process.

 Having said that, several aspects of the existing system did (and many
 still
 do) require fixing.

 Scott

  -Original Message-
  Roger wrote:
 
  ... Wonderful bunch of garbage we've been sold as taxpayers. I keep
  wondering when the electorate will remove its collective head from its
  collective butts and right this ship of state. ...



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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-19 Thread Mountain Man
Roger wrote:
 ...Wonderful bunch of garbage we've been sold as taxpayers. I keep wondering 
 when the electorate will remove its collective head from its collective butts 
 and right this ship of state...


Here we are, okiebenz.
Why do we not do it our selves?  We fix our cars and have this
okiebenz email resource to access the braintrust of experience to
guide us.  How come when we speak about health care we think that
the government owes us? ...or whatever?  Why don't we form ways to
access this okiebenz braintrust about care of health or have a
different forum other than mbz at okiebenz to do this stuff ourselves?
 Sawbones ain't the only way to do health care, I suspect.  Sous-Vide
sounds wonderful cooking.  OKDon and others tell about cooking bread.
All this stuff is do-it-yourself at okiebenz and is totally health
care and not health care..  I bet we could do most of the sawbones
health care the same way - i.e. ourselves.  Including meds found on
the ground or processed at home, like Rick Simpson oil which by
youtube accounts solves a wide variety of major sawbones health care
issues.  This green planet and braintrust was not given for the
$$wealthy$$ sawbones and bigpharma cohorts alone - we live here - we
can do this.
Anyone?
And, when it gets tough, we will get tough.  Lessee, we all know that
when they outlaw guns, then those who own guns will be outlaws.
Similarly, somewhat, when they demand we pay $$insco$$ for health
care then some without health care $$insco$$ will be outlaws.  ACA
is merely a ploy of $$insco$$, correct?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-19 Thread mlh
 Age and tobacco do affect pricing.

You're right, I wasn't thinking when I said that.
They do have a cap on the multiplier between the oldest and the newest,
which still results in a price increase for the young and a decrease for
the old. OTOH, if you have a medicare supplement policy, everybody in your
rating group is old anyway.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-18 Thread Larry T
was that an employer provided policy or direct purchase?  I also have 
BCBS thru my wife's employer - the VA system (Dept of Vet Affairs) so I 
have n idea whether we are exempt or not.  I did hear spouses on 
policies can be dropped.


It also appears many regulations continue to be written by faceless, 
unelected bureaucrats.   aren;t we lucky??


LarryT

On 9/15/2013 10:45 PM, Brian Toscano wrote:

Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be
non-renewed.  Thanks Obummer!
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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-18 Thread Mountain Man
LarryT wrote:
 It also appears many regulations continue to be written by faceless,
 unelected bureaucrats.   aren;t we lucky??

We are getting the best regulations money can buy.
Insco money, lobbyist money.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-18 Thread Scott Ritchey

Faceless!  Wow!  Shades of the X Files.

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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
 
 LarryT wrote:
  It also appears many regulations continue to be written by faceless,
  unelected bureaucrats.   aren;t we lucky??
 
 We are getting the best regulations money can buy.
 Insco money, lobbyist money.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-18 Thread Brian Toscano
I have an individual plan.


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 9:33 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:


 Faceless!  Wow!  Shades of the X Files.

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  Mountain Man
  Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:08 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
 
  LarryT wrote:
   It also appears many regulations continue to be written by faceless,
   unelected bureaucrats.   aren;t we lucky??
 
  We are getting the best regulations money can buy.
  Insco money, lobbyist money.
  mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Is that thru your job or what? At my job we have bcbs anthem 

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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-16 Thread Brian Toscano
I have an individual plan.

Looks like what I will be offered will cost 50% more.


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 Is that thru your job or what? At my job we have bcbs anthem

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:45 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be
  non-renewed.  Thanks Obummer!
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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-16 Thread Mitch Haley

Brian Toscano wrote:

Individual.

I have to wait until 10/1 to find out what's available.

If I look online today, my current Anthem (BCBS in many states) plan is
still available. lol.




But...but, my President promised me we could keep our existing health insurance 
as long as we wanted to...no, wait, he didn't say health insurance, he said 
health care, and we assumed he meant to say insurance but he really meant we 
could keep our existing doctors.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-16 Thread Brian Toscano
POTUS is just PC for lying scumbag these days.


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Brian Toscano wrote:

 Individual.

 I have to wait until 10/1 to find out what's available.

 If I look online today, my current Anthem (BCBS in many states) plan is
 still available. lol.



 But...but, my President promised me we could keep our existing health
 insurance as long as we wanted to...no, wait, he didn't say health
 insurance, he said health care, and we assumed he meant to say
 insurance but he really meant we could keep our existing doctors.

 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-16 Thread Scott Ritchey


Let's see.  With 30-45 million more patients and TBD fewer doctors, what
could possibly go wring?



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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-16 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
This doesn't belong on this list!


On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote:

 Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be
 non-renewed.  Thanks Obummer!
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[MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-15 Thread Brian Toscano
Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be
non-renewed.  Thanks Obummer!
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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-15 Thread Allan Streib
Individual plan or employer?

Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com writes:

 Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be
 non-renewed.  Thanks Obummer!

-- 
Allan Streib

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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-15 Thread Brian Toscano
Individual.

I have to wait until 10/1 to find out what's available.

If I look online today, my current Anthem (BCBS in many states) plan is
still available. lol.


On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Individual plan or employer?

 Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com writes:

  Got the outstanding news that my Anthem BSBS health insurance will be
  non-renewed.  Thanks Obummer!

 --
 Allan Streib

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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-15 Thread Scott Ritchey

So, it begins.  I wouldn't count on answers by 10/1

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 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian
 Toscano
 Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:00 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
 
 Individual.
 
 I have to wait until 10/1 to find out what's available.
 
 If I look online today, my current Anthem (BCBS in many states) plan is
 still available. lol.
 
 
 On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu



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Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled

2013-09-15 Thread Brian Toscano
yep, so much for keeping your existing plan.


On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:


 So, it begins.  I wouldn't count on answers by 10/1

  -Original Message-
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  Toscano
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  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Obummercare caused my benefits to be canceled
 
  Individual.
 
  I have to wait until 10/1 to find out what's available.
 
  If I look online today, my current Anthem (BCBS in many states) plan is
  still available. lol.
 
 
  On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu



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