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606NA gets better mileage than the turbo. EPA figures are not pessimistic for the w210. I do not know what they did to mess it up, but the W124 OM606 has power and poise, as well as economy. The 606 in the w210s I looked at were anemic and the cars sloppy. Is that build issues or age? clay On Jun 23, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: EPA says 23/31. In a Jetta that'd be a 2002/2003 and EPA 35/44 and I could get a manual transmission which I prefer on principle. Anybody with turbo 606 experience want to comment? I was under the impression that it could at least equal a W124 2.5 turbo on the freeway. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was able to cruise at 85mph and get 36mpg doing all day trips a few summers ago. All highway. I was able to fill the tank and go at least 660 miles before the needle fell to E. Only once did I hit the reserve light and that was a 690 mile day. 95 E300 w210 has the same size tank, but gets a shorter range out of the engine. I am not sure why. I had AC going in the w124. I am finding that the 210s have very week climate controls and fail much sooner than in a w124 clay On Jun 23, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Will a W210 do 30 MPG? I'd be surprised if the turbo OM606 didn't. The '95 diesel W124 with the NA 606 easily gets 30 mpg, and the 210 chassis has a significantly better Cd than the 124 (which was no slouch in its day). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What are you going to do with your e300? I might want to buy it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:13 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I was able to cruise at 85mph and get 36mpg doing all day trips a few summers ago. All highway. I was able to fill the tank and go at least 660 miles before the needle fell to E. Only once did I hit the reserve light and that was a 690 mile day. 95 E300 w210 has the same size tank, but gets a shorter range out of the engine. I am not sure why. I had AC going in the w124. I am finding that the 210s have very week climate controls and fail much sooner than in a w124 clay On Jun 23, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Will a W210 do 30 MPG? I'd be surprised if the turbo OM606 didn't. The '95 diesel W124 with the NA 606 easily gets 30 mpg, and the 210 chassis has a significantly better Cd than the 124 (which was no slouch in its day). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I am entertaining offers. 189 on the clock. Driver side front fender took the hit at the wheel. Sheet metal is toast, crinkle in the underlying metal that can be coaxed out straight. Front and rear bumpers are wanting replacement. Suspension on left front is going to want alignment. It does drive though. Very surprised based on the angle the wheel rests. AC blows hot. Special edition E300 with all the goodies. Engine has been kept up well, as has the rest. All seat work as they should. Even the sunroof works. No rust, but 18 year old paint with chips. It was clayed, wax and sealed before the wreck. If you have a truck headed this way, get it on the trailer back to okie F'land clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 24, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What are you going to do with your e300? I might want to buy it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:13 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I was able to cruise at 85mph and get 36mpg doing all day trips a few summers ago. All highway. I was able to fill the tank and go at least 660 miles before the needle fell to E. Only once did I hit the reserve light and that was a 690 mile day. 95 E300 w210 has the same size tank, but gets a shorter range out of the engine. I am not sure why. I had AC going in the w124. I am finding that the 210s have very week climate controls and fail much sooner than in a w124 clay On Jun 23, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Will a W210 do 30 MPG? I'd be surprised if the turbo OM606 didn't. The '95 diesel W124 with the NA 606 easily gets 30 mpg, and the 210 chassis has a significantly better Cd than the 124 (which was no slouch in its day). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Theres a reason I specifically want a TDI, I commute 56 miles each way to work. A big gasser sedan isn't going to cut it... -Curt Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 21:15:59 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any TDI folks here? Message-ID: 51c64c4f.9010...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oooh, Aspen Green over Saddle leather, my favorite! I bet clay would be all over this one if it were in Seattle. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=344895354 Those don't look like 'always garaged' headlight lenses to me. Of course, if it was a daily driver, it could have spent all daylight hours in a parking lot five days a week. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=347059854 This might be a decent deal, but a bit more than Curt's looking to pay: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=349133627 Offer this guy $2500 and see what happens: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=348607486 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt Raymond wrote: Theres a reason I specifically want a TDI, I commute 56 miles each way to work. A big gasser sedan isn't going to cut it... What about this one? Oooh, Aspen Green over Saddle leather, my favorite! I bet clay would be all over this one if it were in Seattle. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=344895354 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mitch Haley wrote: What about this one? Oooh, Aspen Green over Saddle leather, my favorite! I bet clay would be all over this one if it were in Seattle. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=344895354 For the sake of round numbers, let us assume you will drive the car 2000 miles per month. Let us also assume a TDI will cost 9 cents per gallon for fuel, or 10 cents if automatic transmission. Assume a turbo W210 costs 11 cents per gallon. Is it worth $40 a month in fuel to not be riding in a VW? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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EPA says 23/31. In a Jetta that'd be a 2002/2003 and EPA 35/44 and I could get a manual transmission which I prefer on principle. -Curt Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 11:55:20 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here? Message-ID: 51c71a68.3080...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: Theres a reason I specifically want a TDI, I commute 56 miles each way to work. A big gasser sedan isn't going to cut it... What about this one? Oooh, Aspen Green over Saddle leather, my favorite! I bet clay would be all over this one if it were in Seattle. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=344895354 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt Raymond wrote: EPA says 23/31. In a Jetta that'd be a 2002/2003 and EPA 35/44 and I could get a manual transmission which I prefer on principle. Anybody with turbo 606 experience want to comment? I was under the impression that it could at least equal a W124 2.5 turbo on the freeway. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 12:20:32 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: For the sake of round numbers, let us assume you will drive the car 2000 miles per month. Let us also assume a TDI will cost 9 cents per gallon for fuel, or 10 cents if automatic transmission. Assume a turbo W210 costs 11 cents per gallon. Is it worth $40 a month in fuel to not be riding in a VW? $ 0.09 per gallon of fuel???!! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Methinks he meant mile, not gallon. Dan On Jun 23, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Craig wrote: On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 12:20:32 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: For the sake of round numbers, let us assume you will drive the car 2000 miles per month. Let us also assume a TDI will cost 9 cents per gallon for fuel, or 10 cents if automatic transmission. Assume a turbo W210 costs 11 cents per gallon. Is it worth $40 a month in fuel to not be riding in a VW? $ 0.09 per gallon of fuel???!! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:42:47 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Methinks he meant mile, not gallon. Dan On Jun 23, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Craig wrote: $ 0.09 per gallon of fuel???!! 1 mile $ 4.00 x = 38.9 MPG $ 0.09 gallon $ 0.10 / mile = 35.0 MPG $ 0.11 / mile = 31.8 MPG Will a W210 do 30 MPG? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Will a W210 do 30 MPG? I'd be surprised if the turbo OM606 didn't. The '95 diesel W124 with the NA 606 easily gets 30 mpg, and the 210 chassis has a significantly better Cd than the 124 (which was no slouch in its day). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dan Penoff wrote: Methinks he meant mile, not gallon. Yep. Can't believe I did that. If Curt really cares about fuel cost, he could always get a first generation Insight with stick shift. 65-70mpg on 87 octane gasahol. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My 210 e300 usually does 32 or so Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:42:47 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Methinks he meant mile, not gallon. Dan On Jun 23, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Craig wrote: $ 0.09 per gallon of fuel???!! 1 mile $ 4.00 x = 38.9 MPG $ 0.09 gallon $ 0.10 / mile = 35.0 MPG $ 0.11 / mile = 31.8 MPG Will a W210 do 30 MPG? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Craig wrote: On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:42:47 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Methinks he meant mile, not gallon. Dan On Jun 23, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Craig wrote: $ 0.09 per gallon of fuel???!! 1 mile $ 4.00 x = 38.9 MPG $ 0.09 gallon $ 0.10 / mile = 35.0 MPG $ 0.11 / mile = 31.8 MPG Will a W210 do 30 MPG? Huh? $4.00/40 miles = 10 cents per mile at 40 mpg. I figured, first order approximation, 45mpg at 9 cents and 36mpg at 11 cents. A 210 4matic wagon can do 30 mpg, but not at 70 mph (mine has almost 250k and can do it at 60-62mph). A 210 turbo 2wd sedan should get somewhere over 35 mpg on a 56 mile hwy trip, shouldn't it? I know we've had people here with 98-99 E300Ds, but none of them have spoken up today. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: My 210 e300 usually does 32 or so 4sp NA or overdrive turbo? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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5 speed NA Sent from my iPhone On Jun 23, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: My 210 e300 usually does 32 or so 4sp NA or overdrive turbo? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:57:04 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: On Jun 23, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Craig wrote: $ 0.09 per gallon of fuel???!! 1 mile $ 4.00 x = 38.9 MPG $ 0.09 gallon $ 0.10 / mile = 35.0 MPG $ 0.11 / mile = 31.8 MPG Will a W210 do 30 MPG? Huh? $4.00/40 miles = 10 cents per mile at 40 mpg. Now _I_ made a mistake. I had originally computed with $4.00/gallon, but decided that was to high, so I changed to $3.50/gallon. I changed everything except the $ 4.00 in the first line. Oops. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think that really shorts the TDI too, the 2012 is rated for 42 highway which is most of what I drive. The new EPA estimates are crazy low, my '84 190D 2.2l auto is EPA rated 27/31, I average about 38 with runs up to 40. The '98 TDI was rated 33/44. '98 E300 is 23/31, we'll give it the benefit of the doubt that 35 is quite possible, still pretty low when you drive 112 miles a day. -Curt Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 17:36:35 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here? Message-ID: 20130623173635.fab45a3f332dc6ccefc35...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:42:47 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Methinks he meant mile, not gallon. Dan On Jun 23, 2013, at 6:40 PM, Craig wrote: $ 0.09 per gallon of fuel???!! 1 mile $ 4.00 x = 38.9 MPG $ 0.09 gallon $ 0.10 / mile = 35.0 MPG $ 0.11 / mile = 31.8 MPG Will a W210 do 30 MPG? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I passed on one in an auction in 2004 and I'm still kicking myself, it sold for cheap cheap but I didn't have the house yet and space for 3 cars. I was still driving my '83 240D back then. One of my students in California a couple years ago has one. He said the batteries died years ago but it still gets good mileage even so. -Curt Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:49:36 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here? Message-ID: 51c78990.3080...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Dan Penoff wrote: Methinks he meant mile, not gallon. Yep. Can't believe I did that. If Curt really cares about fuel cost, he could always get a first generation Insight with stick shift. 65-70mpg on 87 octane gasahol. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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the '98 TDI should get you upper 40's on the highway. On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I passed on one in an auction in 2004 and I'm still kicking myself, it sold for cheap cheap but I didn't have the house yet and space for 3 cars. I was still driving my '83 240D back then. One of my students in California a couple years ago has one. He said the batteries died years ago but it still gets good mileage even so. -Curt Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:49:36 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Any TDI folks here? Message-ID: 51c78990.3080...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Dan Penoff wrote: Methinks he meant mile, not gallon. Yep. Can't believe I did that. If Curt really cares about fuel cost, he could always get a first generation Insight with stick shift. 65-70mpg on 87 octane gasahol. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
