Re: [MBZ] them damn Germans
What I usally do in a case like this is to cut an allen key just enough so it sits in the bolt plus a little bit sticking out and then get the approprate size spanner on what is left sticking out. Good idea to get the ring end on the allen key. One of the tricks is not to get the allen key hot while cutting it. Hendrik rarely beaten with stuff like this - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:18 AM Subject: [MBZ] them damn germans So I thought I would change the tranny fluid and fix the leak that has kept the car parked for a year or so (560SEL), its leaking out of the cover on the govener/rear pump whatever it is on the back passenger side. Just need to get my snap ring plyers in there and pull that cover and try and replace the little seal under there. Would probably be best just to swap in a whole new govener/pump/whatever from another tranny. Damn germans used allen bolts to mount it. Thats great while the tranny is out of the car, but nearly impossible to get the allen wrench seated in the bolt to remove them with it in the car. Crap, why couldnt they have just used regular bolts you can get a wrench on? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.1/527 - Release Date: 9/11/2006
Re: [MBZ] them damn germans
Cut off a short length of the allen wrench, put it in the bolt head, and put a wrench over the end sticking out -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] them damn Germans
I did cut down an allen wrench but need to work on that, its crooked and isnt working too well. Hendrik Riessen wrote: What I usally do in a case like this is to cut an allen key just enough so it sits in the bolt plus a little bit sticking out and then get the approprate size spanner on what is left sticking out. Good idea to get the ring end on the allen key. One of the tricks is not to get the allen key hot while cutting it. Hendrik rarely beaten with stuff like this - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:18 AM Subject: [MBZ] them damn germans So I thought I would change the tranny fluid and fix the leak that has kept the car parked for a year or so (560SEL), its leaking out of the cover on the govener/rear pump whatever it is on the back passenger side. Just need to get my snap ring plyers in there and pull that cover and try and replace the little seal under there. Would probably be best just to swap in a whole new govener/pump/whatever from another tranny. Damn germans used allen bolts to mount it. Thats great while the tranny is out of the car, but nearly impossible to get the allen wrench seated in the bolt to remove them with it in the car. Crap, why couldnt they have just used regular bolts you can get a wrench on? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.1/527 - Release Date: 9/11/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] them damn germans
Yes, thats a good idea OK Don wrote: Cut off a short length of the allen wrench, put it in the bolt head, and put a wrench over the end sticking out -- -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] them damn germans
Kaleb, My experience is that the transmissions need rebuilt around 170k, also some of the later models had some bad clutches, thus it might be worth your time to just pull tranny and put new clutches in it. It looks like I might have to pull the engine on my 560SEL, it appears to have a leak around oil pan, which someone had tried used epoxy on the outside to fix. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] them damn germans Yes, thats a good idea OK Don wrote: Cut off a short length of the allen wrench, put it in the bolt head, and put a wrench over the end sticking out -- -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] them damn germans
Hi Kaleb, When I removed the intake manifold on my 300D I had trouble with the allen bolts - I ended up buying several allen wrenchs for the next time - one set I bought has special rounded ends which they say allows the wrench to be used at a 30-45 degree angle. I haven't used it to break a bolt loose but I did trial fit it in a allen bolt typically hard to access and t seemed to grab the allen bolt pretty securely. http://www.wihatools.com/indexes/indx_ballhex.htm The tools I bought from Wiha appear to be high quality and the finish looks long lasting - I got the black finish. But best of all, these tools will make the job of replacing glow plugs much easier - and they may work for you. BTW, there doesn't appear to be a minimum order - in case you want to try one before getting a set. Good luck -- Take a look at - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 6:48 PM Subject: [MBZ] them damn germans So I thought I would change the tranny fluid and fix the leak that has kept the car parked for a year or so (560SEL), its leaking out of the cover on the govener/rear pump whatever it is on the back passenger side. Just need to get my snap ring plyers in there and pull that cover and try and replace the little seal under there. Would probably be best just to swap in a whole new govener/pump/whatever from another tranny. Damn germans used allen bolts to mount it. Thats great while the tranny is out of the car, but nearly impossible to get the allen wrench seated in the bolt to remove them with it in the car. Crap, why couldnt they have just used regular bolts you can get a wrench on? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.0/525 - Release Date: 11/9/2006
[MBZ] them damn germans
So I thought I would change the tranny fluid and fix the leak that has kept the car parked for a year or so (560SEL), its leaking out of the cover on the govener/rear pump whatever it is on the back passenger side. Just need to get my snap ring plyers in there and pull that cover and try and replace the little seal under there. Would probably be best just to swap in a whole new govener/pump/whatever from another tranny. Damn germans used allen bolts to mount it. Thats great while the tranny is out of the car, but nearly impossible to get the allen wrench seated in the bolt to remove them with it in the car. Crap, why couldnt they have just used regular bolts you can get a wrench on? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] them damn germans
That would be Un-German now wouldn't it? They think it should be done out of the car so why not pull the trans? (Their thinking NOT mine) Vee haff vays uf doink sings Jeff Zedic Toronto
Re: [MBZ] them damn germans
+Im thiking it just might be easier to pull the tranny. I already unhooked the driveshaft to try and get the back of the tranny to drop more but it didnt help much. Jeff Zedic wrote: That would be Un-German now wouldn't it? They think it should be done out of the car so why not pull the trans? (Their thinking NOT mine) Vee haff vays uf doink sings Jeff Zedic Toronto ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
