Re: [MBZ] acetone again

2006-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Uhh, wouldn't they want to surpress this with all the power available to them? 
10% lowered sales would seem disasterous.
   
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Howdy -
If this story were true wouldn;t the gas/fuel companies put a bit of 
Acetone 
in for us?  Something that would bump mileage by 10% or so would seem 
to be 
a pretty good advertising story - they could do it and we would never 
know 
unless they told us.

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)



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I think your next step, given the age of the engine, should be a 
compression check.  Compression problems usually show up as cold start 
issues long before they affect power or economy.  When it gets really 
low the engine will start to misfire at warm idle and will be a bear to 
start when cold, but it'll still drive well at speed.

If it's not compression, check for bad injectors, especially if you're 
getting a lot of nailing with the engine warm.  In my experience a VW 
diesel with good injectors, and properly timed, is relatively quiet for 
a diesel -- they don't clatter as much as the other mechanical diesels 
I've experienced.  Rebuilt injectors are around $40 each; if the ones 
you have are original to the car, you may be amazed at the reduction in 
smoke and noise with new ones.  (Or you can take them to a Bosch shop 
and get them pop tested.  Last time I did this it was $10 an injector, 
which could be credited towards rebuilt ones if they were bad.)



Re: [MBZ] acetone again

2006-02-02 Thread B Dike
An acquaintance told me he tried it and it worked as claimed.
  
  Bruce

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If this story were true wouldn;t the gas/fuel companies put a bit of Acetone 
in for us?  Something that would bump mileage by 10% or so would seem to be 
a pretty good advertising story - they could do it and we would never know 
unless they told us.

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)

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 http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2598

 need another thread about using this?  I have a few gallons to burn

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Werner, can you do me a favor and take a picture of the main (engine)
panel the next time you remove it for an oil change? The 300D 2.5
panel is almost $100 *cheaper* than the same part for the 1987 300D,
and I'm dying to see what the exact difference is between the two
parts.

-Aaron



Re: [MBZ] acetone again

2006-02-02 Thread Hendrik Riessen
I'd say that most people who are willing to try this already drive fuel 
consciously. Yes I would agree that there will be some initial extra taking 
it easy type of driving, however any good study is usually conducted over a 
long period of time to minimise outside influences. From what I can see 
there has not been a proper scientific study undertaken into the effect of 
adding tiny amounts of acetone to petrol/gas/benzin.
The whole thing does stink of snake oil but I am interested wether there is 
any benefit in using acetone to raise the octane level in fuel or at the 
least, wether acetone somehow interacts with the fuel.
I would like to think that the oil companies are doing the right thing by us 
and producing the best quality fuel that they can.


Hendrik

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B Dike wrote:

An acquaintance told me he tried it and it worked as claimed.


Did he change his driving habits at all?  I've seen 10-15% changes in
mileage in some cars just from driving slower.  If someone is testing a
new fuel economy additive it's likely they'll drive more carefully for a
while.

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Re: [MBZ] acetone again

2006-02-02 Thread redghost

Sort of like biodiesel be added to petro to improve things.

On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 02:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Howdy -
If this story were true wouldn;t the gas/fuel companies put a bit of 
Acetone
in for us?  Something that would bump mileage by 10% or so would seem 
to be
a pretty good advertising story - they could do it and we would never 
know

unless they told us.

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)

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Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:25 PM
Subject: [MBZ] acetone again



http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2598

need another thread about using this?  I have a few gallons to burn

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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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Re: [MBZ] acetone again

2006-02-01 Thread Chris Kueny

http://www.cartalk.com/content/columns/Archive/2006/January/08.html

Definitive test says bogus.


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Howdy -
If this story were true wouldn;t the gas/fuel companies put a bit of 
Acetone
in for us?  Something that would bump mileage by 10% or so would seem to 
be

a pretty good advertising story - they could do it and we would never know
unless they told us.

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)

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From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:25 PM
Subject: [MBZ] acetone again



http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2598

need another thread about using this?  I have a few gallons to burn

--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


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[MBZ] acetone again

2006-01-30 Thread redghost

http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2598

need another thread about using this?  I have a few gallons to burn

--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz