Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 1/2/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do think the turbo in the ad has got to be some kind of a mistake Crackhead probably put a Tornado air filter on it and thinks that's a turbo. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread Peter Frederick
Turbocharger? Not a chance, unless someone has swapped in a 617 turbodiesel instead of the V8. There is no room for a turbo in there, believe me. Hardly room for the V8! Rust is a deal killer, for sure. Make sure the rear end is OK, as well, they are getting somewhat scarce. Peter

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread OK Don
Mercedes did turbocharge the 117 4.5 litre engine - in the C111, and set several world records with it. They did this after setting all those DIesel records with the turbo'd 617, and after porche stole a record from them. Got it back with the C111/117. On 1/1/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread Bob Rentfro
] Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5 Mercedes did turbocharge the 117 4.5 litre engine - in the C111, and set several world records with it. They did this after setting all those DIesel records with the turbo'd 617, and after porche stole a record from them. Got

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread Peter Frederick
May be, but NOT in a W108 chassis! There's barely room for the exhaust, let alone turbo piping, and it goes fast enough as it is -- I have one. The 617 swap was fairly common in Germany -- reduced the taxed considerably and didn't take too much off performance. Peter

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 1/1/2006 3:31:04 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How does this look...those of you familiar with this model. I emailed the dude and he still has it. He says Yes I do. I just happened to be answering emails when yours came in. Here is some

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread Hendrik Riessen
- From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5 So this has a turbo? Is this dude a Craigslist crack smoker? Is this someting to run from? I love gleaning knowledge from all y'all

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread Hendrik Riessen
] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5 May be, but NOT in a W108 chassis! There's barely room for the exhaust, let alone turbo piping, and it goes fast enough as it is -- I have one. The 617 swap was fairly common in Germany -- reduced the taxed considerably

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread Hendrik Riessen
According to a pretty reliable source ALL (sorry Marshall couldn't resist) Mercedes V8 engines came with fuel injection. Hendrik with no V8's :-( - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread Hendrik Riessen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5 Check for rust. If it has a aftermarket turbo fitted, I would pass. MB never turboed those engines, hmmmnh wonder why? Did I mention to check for rust

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread l02turner
://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 5:28 PM Subject: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/120224368.html How does this look

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, they all did. Hendrik Riessen wrote: According to a pretty reliable source ALL (sorry Marshall couldn't resist) Mercedes V8 engines came with fuel injection. Hendrik with no V8's :-( -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread l02turner
- Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5 Apparently the factory did not think the 4.5 went fast enough, hence the 6.3. Now lets try putting a turbo

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread Lee Levitt
My high school girlfriend's father had one of these cars. I have a *lot* of fond memories from that car, some of them involving actual driving. :) Between that and the fact that I learned to drive on a 240D, I guess it was fate that I would own an MB someday... Lee '93 300D 2.5 181K

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread OK Don
The 6.3 pre-dated the 4.5. ALl are US models - don't know about the rest of the world :-( 6.3 M100 - 1965 - 1972 3.5 M116 - 1969 - 1972 4.5 M117 - 1971 - 1980 6.9 M100 - 1977 - 1979 3.8 M116 - 1981 - 1985 5.0 M117 - 1984 - 1985 5.6 M117 - 1986 - 1991 On 1/2/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread Peter Frederick
The 6.3 was first installed in the 600 Grand in 1963 -- all previous Benz automotive engines were inlines -- the WWiI vintage crowngear straight 8 in the German staff cars was supercharged -- above 3/4 throttle the blower was clutched in, went from 120 to 180 hp instantly. No timing chain,

Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-02 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 6.3 300SEL was the 1st real supercar - it was the one salesmen would put a $100 bill on the dash and tell the potential buyer if he could grab it while the driver accelerated to 100 mph he could have it. I thought that was a 427 S/C Cobra story. If the 108 in

[MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-01 Thread Bob Rentfro
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Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5

2006-01-01 Thread Hendrik Riessen
the car and check for rust. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '72 280SE 4.5 What the heck is up with the turbocharger? On 1/1/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL