Re: [MBZ] 109 project

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Insurance companies' intended customers are salvage yards / used parts dealers. 

Seems the reasonable thing to do with most of the burn cars would be to have 
them hauled to a scrap metal dealer instead of the salvage auction. I can't 
imagine selling a single part off a car that literally burned to the ground. 

I wanted to buy a Delorean a couple of years ago. 
I clicked on the item page because I thought somebody had posted a picture of a 
roadkilled animal by mistake and I was curious as to what it was. It didn't 
even look like a motor vehicle in the thumbnail sized pic, but in the full 
sized pics you could make out some car parts in the melted rubble. 

The $60 minimum bid wasn't a deterrent, but the cost to haul it home from 
Kentucky was. 
I thought it'd look great hanging on the garage wall under a sign that said 
"1.21 Gigawatts, Baby!". I forgot to watch the auction and see what it sold 
for. 

> On April 16, 2019 at 12:57 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> 
> Why is it worth anyone's time to photograph and enter a listing for a
> vehicle like that which is clearly beyond economical repair?
> 
> Why are these not just sold for the scrap metal value?
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Re: [MBZ] 109 project

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>
> Why are these not just sold for the scrap metal value?
>

I believe a wise man once said there was one born every minute.

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Re: [MBZ] 109 project

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Why is it worth anyone's time to photograph and enter a listing for a
vehicle like that which is clearly beyond economical repair?

Why are these not just sold for the scrap metal value?

Allan

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> When a car says value 52k, repair cost 47k, it's means it's a 52k car with 
> 47k of damage. 
> IAAI is better about publishing the repair cost than CoPart is. 
> https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=31514219
>
>> On April 16, 2019 at 12:06 PM "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" 
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>>  Meantersay,  that out-Jabbas Jabba!
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Re: [MBZ] 109 project

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Usually when I win a bid on a car doe $400 the fees almost double that amount. 
You have to take all that into consideration when bidding there 

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> Um, no. 
> CoPart fees are massive, on the buyer and the seller. 
> Worse than the wholesale dealer auctions for clean title cars. 
> Mitch. 
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Re: [MBZ] 109 project

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Um, no. 
CoPart fees are massive, on the buyer and the seller. 
Worse than the wholesale dealer auctions for clean title cars. 
Mitch. 

> On April 16, 2019 at 12:19 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes 
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> Copart is the new no-fee / low-fee competition for CraigsList?
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Re: [MBZ] 109 project

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

When a car says value 52k, repair cost 47k, it's means it's a 52k car with 47k 
of damage. 
IAAI is better about publishing the repair cost than CoPart is. 
https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=31514219

> On April 16, 2019 at 12:06 PM "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" 
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Re: [MBZ] 109 project

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--FT wrote:
> From the wildfires out there?

Copart is the new no-fee / low-fee competition for CraigsList?
tin

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Re: [MBZ] 109 project

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> From the wildfires out there?
>

Jewish lightning, maybe?

I wanna know what crackhead thinks that thing has a value of $38K.
 Meantersay,  that out-Jabbas Jabba!

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Re: [MBZ] 109 project

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>From the wildfires out there?

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Re: [MBZ] 109

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Pretty sure it is.

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> Isn’t it an m116?
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Re: [MBZ] 109

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Isn’t it an m116?

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Re: [MBZ] 109

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What’s the “laundry list” of repairs? Minor Martha stuff or big stuff?

-D


> On Jan 26, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
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> Correction - he emailed them to me as an attachment and said they would be 
> uploaded soon.  I can FW to anyone who's interested.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 9:14 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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> Where? Looks like the same ad to me.
> 
> -D
> 
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> > On Jan 26, 2019, at 9:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
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> > Seller posted a couple more photos showing dents.  Has nonfunctioning
> > vacuum locks and AC is missing its belt so probably doesn't work.  Quite a
> > laundry list of repairs are needed but I love the color.
> > 
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> >>> Dang, if I didn’t have my finnie I would be looking at that.
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Re: [MBZ] 109

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Correction - he emailed them to me as an attachment and said they would be
uploaded soon.  I can FW to anyone who's interested.

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> Where? Looks like the same ad to me.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 26, 2019, at 9:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Seller posted a couple more photos showing dents.  Has nonfunctioning
> > vacuum locks and AC is missing its belt so probably doesn't work.  Quite
> a
> > laundry list of repairs are needed but I love the color.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 8:27 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> >> I happen to have a 3.5 transmission... I plan on putting in my 4.5...
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> >>
> >>> Dang, if I didn’t have my finnie I would be looking at that.
> >>>
> >>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 109

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Where? Looks like the same ad to me.

-D


> On Jan 26, 2019, at 9:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Seller posted a couple more photos showing dents.  Has nonfunctioning
> vacuum locks and AC is missing its belt so probably doesn't work.  Quite a
> laundry list of repairs are needed but I love the color.
> 
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>> I happen to have a 3.5 transmission... I plan on putting in my 4.5...
>> 
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>> 
>>> Dang, if I didn’t have my finnie I would be looking at that.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 109

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Seller posted a couple more photos showing dents.  Has nonfunctioning
vacuum locks and AC is missing its belt so probably doesn't work.  Quite a
laundry list of repairs are needed but I love the color.

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Re: [MBZ] 109

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I happen to have a 3.5 transmission... I plan on putting in my 4.5...

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Re: [MBZ] 109

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M117 short stroke.  V8.

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Re: [MBZ] 109

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300SE L 3.5 sedan with air bags, etc.  I owned one that won several
concours trophies.  Very lovely ride if everything has been sorted out.

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> What kind of motor is a 3.5?
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Re: [MBZ] 109

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What kind of motor is a 3.5?

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> Dang, if I didn’t have my finnie I would be looking at that.
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> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 109

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Dang, if I didn’t have my finnie I would be looking at that.

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Re: [MBZ] 109 worth messing with?

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Just fix the suspension and drive and enjoy your appreciating asset.

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> >Hardly worth restoring, which is a shame.  You can get a concours
> >condition
> >300SEL 3. or 4.5 sedan for under $15k I bet.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 109 worth messing with?

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What could go wrong?  Offer $500 and you've got a nice little weekend project 
for a few years.
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On October 31, 2016 10:23:44 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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>Hardly worth restoring, which is a shame.  You can get a concours
>condition
>300SEL 3. or 4.5 sedan for under $15k I bet.
>
>On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel
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>>> Nice color
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] 109 worth messing with?

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Hardly worth restoring, which is a shame.  You can get a concours condition
300SEL 3. or 4.5 sedan for under $15k I bet.

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>>
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Re: [MBZ] 109 worth messing with?

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Code 624C, imaginatively called "Yellow".

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Re: [MBZ] 109 worth messing with?

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Nice color

Dwight Giles Jr.
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[MBZ] 109 worth messing with?

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1972 Mercedes 300 SEL 4.5 Liter V8
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/5848437006.html

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Re: [MBZ] 109

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M189 (W109 1965-67) and the M198 (gullwing) share several parts and
designs.  I can confirm, at least, the water pump is the same part, for
example.  I never bothered to compare much else in the EPC. but if you
examine both closely you can see many shared deigns.

Jaime


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 There is no relationship between a W109 and the Gullwing other than they
 used a mechanical injection pump for fuel delivery, I don't think even the
 pump is the same.

 The Gullwing engine wasn't used all that much, it was very expensive to
 manufacture, and difficult to maintain (the injection nozzles were in the
 block, aimed at the spark plugs) and Benz added the fuel injection to more
 normal engines intended for road use, not a sliced down aircraft engine.

 Not that the original engine wasn't a marvel, it was just not a great
 production engine.

 No suspension parts, either, to the best of my knowledge.  I believe,
 although I could easily be wrong, that the SL had a fully independent rear
 end (I will see my buddy Hans tomorrow, I can ask, he worked on them)
 rather than a swing axle.  Front end on the SL I don't know about.  The
 W109 had kingpins and a two control arms, but so did everything Benz made
 at that time, at least until the W115 replaced the kingpin with ball
 joints.  Geometry was improved in 1962 to change the kingpin axis and
 reduce scrub while increasing caster, some minor changes in the W115 on
 those lines as well.  Nothing exciting except in comparison to US road iron
 of the day, all of which drove like log wagons.

 The SL had a space frame, with body panels attached, and working on it was
 pure hell -- a good deal of the rear frame had to be removed to get to the
 rear axle.  Every Benz designed after 1950 has a unibody.

 I don't see all that much Gullwing in the W108/9 -- it was an old design
 by 1968, dating from the 1950s.  Nice cars, but I like the W126 MUCH more.

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Re: [MBZ] 109

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It's on jackstands - probably to hide the collapsed air bags in the 
suspension.   IIRC that's around $1000 per corner to fix.  But that 
would be a stunner when repaired and painted!  I'm thinking Astral 
Silver would do it justice.  Wonder what condition the engine is in.  
That could be a real money pit.  Even the parts costs would be 
significant IMO.  It doesn't say but I believe many (all?) 300SELs were 
supplied with the mighty 6.3L?


I'm a sucker for those old cars - love the 108, 109, 111's.

Larry

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1969 Mercedes Benz 300 sel
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5043713776.html




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One of the best looking MBs ever!  Better looking than a 108! modern 
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Re: [MBZ] 109

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Air bags can be had for about $300 each per corner.  Valves are more.  But
you don't necessarily need them to be rebuilt to have a driveable car.

I'm rebuilding my second air suspension car right now, a W112 coupe.
They're really not so bad, it's a simple system.  But parts are expensive,
they add up.

The 300SEL was available with M189, M130, M116, M117, and M100.  Lots of
different engines over the years, but the 6.3 M100 is the most famous.

Jaime


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 It's on jackstands - probably to hide the collapsed air bags in the
 suspension.   IIRC that's around $1000 per corner to fix.  But that would
 be a stunner when repaired and painted!  I'm thinking Astral Silver would
 do it justice.  Wonder what condition the engine is in.  That could be a
 real money pit.  Even the parts costs would be significant IMO.  It doesn't
 say but I believe many (all?) 300SELs were supplied with the mighty 6.3L?

 I'm a sucker for those old cars - love the 108, 109, 111's.

 Larry

 On 5/26/2015 10:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

 1969 Mercedes Benz 300 sel
 http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5043713776.html




 One of the few gassers I might put up with!  The 4 door 300SL!

 One of the best looking MBs ever!  Better looking than a 108! modern
 enough, but no electronics.

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Re: [MBZ] 109

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Do realize that there are a lot of people out there who don't understand the 
air suspension and as a result kludge it up badly.

My former W112 wouldn't stay up until I went through and adjusted all the 
valves per the factory procedure. After doing so, it would stay up for three 
weeks at a time without being run.

Rear bags in it were toast when I got the car, but were easy to replace.

Dan

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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Air bags can be had for about $300 each per corner.  Valves are more.  But
 you don't necessarily need them to be rebuilt to have a driveable car.
 
 I'm rebuilding my second air suspension car right now, a W112 coupe.
 They're really not so bad, it's a simple system.  But parts are expensive,
 they add up.
 
 The 300SEL was available with M189, M130, M116, M117, and M100.  Lots of
 different engines over the years, but the 6.3 M100 is the most famous.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 On Wednesday, May 27, 2015, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 It's on jackstands - probably to hide the collapsed air bags in the
 suspension.   IIRC that's around $1000 per corner to fix.  But that would
 be a stunner when repaired and painted!  I'm thinking Astral Silver would
 do it justice.  Wonder what condition the engine is in.  That could be a
 real money pit.  Even the parts costs would be significant IMO.  It doesn't
 say but I believe many (all?) 300SELs were supplied with the mighty 6.3L?
 
 I'm a sucker for those old cars - love the 108, 109, 111's.
 
 Larry
 
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 1969 Mercedes Benz 300 sel
 http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5043713776.html
 
 
 
 One of the few gassers I might put up with!  The 4 door 300SL!
 
 One of the best looking MBs ever!  Better looking than a 108! modern
 enough, but no electronics.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 109

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By 1969 the M189 was gone.  This would be a M130 according to the 
info I found, so it is no longer a 4 door 300SL.  Still a nice car, 
and it looks worth saving.


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Re: [MBZ] 109

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No, I meant what I said.  The original 109 had the M189, which is a 
modified 300SL engine first used in the Adenour outside the 300SL, so 
the original 109 300SEL was a 4 door version of the 300SL.  With the 
M130, it had no ties to the 300Sl, except maybe the differential.


300SLs did exist in 1969, and do exist now.  The were no longer in 
production in 1969.



You mean 300SE L. 300SL does not exist in 1969.

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 By 1969 the M189 was gone.  This would be a M130 according to the info I
 found, so it is no longer a 4 door 300SL.  Still a nice car, and it looks

  worth saving.
 


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Re: [MBZ] 109

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On May 27, 2015 10:31 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 No, I meant what I said.  The original 109 had the M189, which is a
modified 300SL engine first used in the Adenour outside the 300SL, so the
original 109 300SEL was a 4 door version of the 300SL.  With the M130, it
had no ties to the 300Sl, except maybe the differential.


But you meant to mean that the 300SL's M198 (direct injection) and the
W109's M189 (indirect injection) were both modified M186, right?  The
direct injection engine in the 300Sc (M199?) was a modified M198.

Tom
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Re: [MBZ] 109

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Yes, something like that.  They all are 3 liter slant 6 engines with 
a common lineage.


M130 and predecessor M180 are vertical 6 cyl engines of varying 
displacement from 2.2 to 3 L.



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 No, I meant what I said.  The original 109 had the M189, which is a

modified 300SL engine first used in the Adenour outside the 300SL, so the
original 109 300SEL was a 4 door version of the 300SL.  With the M130, it
had no ties to the 300Sl, except maybe the differential.




But you meant to mean that the 300SL's M198 (direct injection) and the
W109's M189 (indirect injection) were both modified M186, right?  The
direct injection engine in the 300Sc (M199?) was a modified M198.

Tom
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Re: [MBZ] 109

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

There was no 300SL vehicle produced in 1969, although as you say the 6 cyl.
engine from the 300SL Gullwing era may have still been in production.
(M189)

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 Yes, something like that.  They all are 3 liter slant 6 engines with a
 common lineage.

 M130 and predecessor M180 are vertical 6 cyl engines of varying
 displacement from 2.2 to 3 L.


  On May 27, 2015 10:31 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
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  No, I meant what I said.  The original 109 had the M189, which is a

 modified 300SL engine first used in the Adenour outside the 300SL, so the
 original 109 300SEL was a 4 door version of the 300SL.  With the M130, it
 had no ties to the 300Sl, except maybe the differential.



 But you meant to mean that the 300SL's M198 (direct injection) and the
 W109's M189 (indirect injection) were both modified M186, right?  The
 direct injection engine in the 300Sc (M199?) was a modified M198.

 Tom
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Re: [MBZ] 109

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You mean 300SE L. 300SL does not exist in 1969.

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 By 1969 the M189 was gone.  This would be a M130 according to the info I
 found, so it is no longer a 4 door 300SL.  Still a nice car, and it looks
 worth saving.


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Re: [MBZ] 109

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

There is no relationship between a W109 and the Gullwing other than  
they used a mechanical injection pump for fuel delivery, I don't think  
even the pump is the same.


The Gullwing engine wasn't used all that much, it was very expensive  
to manufacture, and difficult to maintain (the injection nozzles were  
in the block, aimed at the spark plugs) and Benz added the fuel  
injection to more normal engines intended for road use, not a sliced  
down aircraft engine.


Not that the original engine wasn't a marvel, it was just not a great  
production engine.


No suspension parts, either, to the best of my knowledge.  I believe,  
although I could easily be wrong, that the SL had a fully independent  
rear end (I will see my buddy Hans tomorrow, I can ask, he worked on  
them) rather than a swing axle.  Front end on the SL I don't know  
about.  The W109 had kingpins and a two control arms, but so did  
everything Benz made at that time, at least until the W115 replaced  
the kingpin with ball joints.  Geometry was improved in 1962 to change  
the kingpin axis and reduce scrub while increasing caster, some minor  
changes in the W115 on those lines as well.  Nothing exciting except  
in comparison to US road iron of the day, all of which drove like log  
wagons.


The SL had a space frame, with body panels attached, and working on it  
was pure hell -- a good deal of the rear frame had to be removed to  
get to the rear axle.  Every Benz designed after 1950 has a unibody.


I don't see all that much Gullwing in the W108/9 -- it was an old  
design by 1968, dating from the 1950s.  Nice cars, but I like the W126  
MUCH more.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 109

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

1969 Mercedes Benz 300 sel
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5043713776.html




One of the few gassers I might put up with!  The 4 door 300SL!

One of the best looking MBs ever!  Better looking than a 108!  modern 
enough, but no electronics.


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Re: [MBZ] 109

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not much to go on...

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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 1969 Mercedes Benz 300 sel
 http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5043713776.html

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[MBZ] 109

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1969 Mercedes Benz 300 sel
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Re: [MBZ] 109

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Looks pretty good.  Probably a M130 powered version.  Rare.

Jaime

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 1969 Mercedes Benz 300 sel
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Re: [MBZ] 109

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Wish there were more photos and details

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 On May 26, 2015, at 10:08 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Looks pretty good.  Probably a M130 powered version.  Rare.
 
 Jaime
 
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 
 1969 Mercedes Benz 300 sel
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Re: [MBZ] 109 at 2130

[redghost]

But we still have power enough left over to sell to those poor fools to the 
south who are baking in their homes and cars.  Wonder how long that will last.  
Think I will install some solar cells on the roof to run the AC in future.  No 
breeze to speak of.

No AC in Gump, so windows down and driving warp speed. while I melt
 
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 Sucks to be you, huh?  Olympia hit 100F the other day; end days, people,
 they're-a-comin!
 
 On 7/23/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Just so you all know, it is 109 at 2130 hours.
 
  I think Satan has parked his Hummer by the curb where the sprinklers will
  hit it.
 
 
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[MBZ] 109 at 2130

[Bob Rentfro]

Just so you all know, it is 109 at 2130 hours.

I think Satan has parked his Hummer by the curb where the sprinklers will hit 
it.

Bob Rentfro
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it's 72 at 2350 here.

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 23:27:53 -0500, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just so you all know, it is 109 at 2130 hours.

 I think Satan has parked his Hummer by the curb where the sprinklers will hit 
 it.

 Bob Rentfro
 '77 300D 157K
 '87 Acura Legend  177K
 Still waiting on '72 350SL  78K
 Litchfield Park, AZ




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Re: [MBZ] 109 at 2130

[Zeitgeist]

Sucks to be you, huh?  Olympia hit 100F the other day; end days, people,
they're-a-comin!

On 7/23/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Just so you all know, it is 109 at 2130 hours.

I think Satan has parked his Hummer by the curb where the sprinklers will
hit it.



Casey
Olympia, WA
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'87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k)
'84 300D (214k)
Gashuffer:
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Re: [MBZ] 109 at 2130

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Its 74 here.

Bob Rentfro wrote:


Just so you all know, it is 109 at 2130 hours.

I think Satan has parked his Hummer by the curb where the sprinklers will hit 
it.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 157K
'87 Acura Legend  177K
Still waiting on '72 350SL  78K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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[MBZ] 109 alert

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