Re: [MBZ] 1982 300 CDT Runs on and on and on ...

2006-04-10 Thread Jim Cathey

If a door/trunk/fuel door lock is suspect, couldn't a person reach over
and unlock the passenger door by itself, then unlock the trunk, then 
pull
the fuel door lock, as a way to isolate the leaking acuator?  This is, 
if
all doors start locked in that process.  Follow my logic, or is it 
flawed?


It is flawed, in that when you override the locking system by pulling
a knob the vacuum actuator doesn't move, you pop a toggle spring in the
mechanism into its other state and override just the lock.  The 
actuators themselves are actually very strong, and are hard to override.


It's pretty easy to get at the 4-way tees under the floor mats, so
just divide and conquer there.  Chances are good it's the trunk
actuator, though.  Those are the only ones I've had fail so far.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 1982 300 CDT Runs on and on and on ...

2006-04-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 17:28:06 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's pretty easy to get at the 4-way tees under the floor mats, so
 just divide and conquer there.  Chances are good it's the trunk
 actuator, though.  Those are the only ones I've had fail so far.

I've had a fuel door and two passenger door actuators fail.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] 1982 300 CDT Runs on and on and on ...

2006-04-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You have a vacuum leak, could be anywhere, you will have to just 
troubleshoot the system and check for leaks.


Dan Schriber wrote:


I have just purchased a 1982 300 CDT. When I shut the car off at the key it
runs on and on. Lately it will shut off when I open the driver's door
(coincidence or design?) or maybe it tires of me pushing the stop button
under the hood. Can anyone direct me to the cause and the fix of this
annoyance. Other then that I love the car.

Thanks in advance.

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] 1982 300 CDT Runs on and on and on ...

2006-04-09 Thread Marshall Booth

Dan Schriber wrote:

I have just purchased a 1982 300 CDT. When I shut the car off at the key it
runs on and on. Lately it will shut off when I open the driver's door
(coincidence or design?) or maybe it tires of me pushing the stop button
under the hood. Can anyone direct me to the cause and the fix of this
annoyance. Other then that I love the car.



If fooling with the doors/central locking has ANY effect on the engine 
shutting off, then it almost surely a leak in a vacuum diaphragm in the 
central locking system that's causing the problem.


Best approach is a diagram of the central locking system and a Mity Vac 
to track down which elements leak.


http://mb.braingears.com/123_DISK2/program/Chassis/80-902.pdf

http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_hvpo.asp

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] 1982 300 CDT Runs on and on and on ...

2006-04-09 Thread Dan Sandy Steadman

Dan,
I have a vacuum troubleshooting guide I can mail you offline if you like.

Regards,
Dan Steadman
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1980 300D
1980 300TD EURO

Dan Schriber wrote:

I have just purchased a 1982 300 CDT. When I shut the car off at the key it
runs on and on. Lately it will shut off when I open the driver's door
(coincidence or design?) or maybe it tires of me pushing the stop button
under the hood. Can anyone direct me to the cause and the fix of this
annoyance. Other then that I love the car.

Thanks in advance.

Dan




Re: [MBZ] 1982 300 CDT Runs on and on and on ...

2006-04-09 Thread Luther Gulseth
If a door/trunk/fuel door lock is suspect, couldn't a person reach over  
and unlock the passenger door by itself, then unlock the trunk, then pull  
the fuel door lock, as a way to isolate the leaking acuator?  This is, if  
all doors start locked in that process.  Follow my logic, or is it flawed?


On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 12:49:20 -0500, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Dan Schriber wrote:
I have just purchased a 1982 300 CDT. When I shut the car off at the  
key it

runs on and on. Lately it will shut off when I open the driver's door
(coincidence or design?) or maybe it tires of me pushing the stop button
under the hood. Can anyone direct me to the cause and the fix of this
annoyance. Other then that I love the car.



If fooling with the doors/central locking has ANY effect on the engine
shutting off, then it almost surely a leak in a vacuum diaphragm in the
central locking system that's causing the problem.

Best approach is a diagram of the central locking system and a Mity Vac
to track down which elements leak.

http://mb.braingears.com/123_DISK2/program/Chassis/80-902.pdf

http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_hvpo.asp

Marshall




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[MBZ] 1982 300 CDT Runs on and on and on ...

2006-04-08 Thread Dan Schriber
I have just purchased a 1982 300 CDT. When I shut the car off at the key it
runs on and on. Lately it will shut off when I open the driver's door
(coincidence or design?) or maybe it tires of me pushing the stop button
under the hood. Can anyone direct me to the cause and the fix of this
annoyance. Other then that I love the car.

Thanks in advance.

Dan




Re: [MBZ] 1982 300 CDT Runs on and on and on ...

2006-04-08 Thread Sunil Hari
You have a vacuum leak somewhere in the door locks.  Probably, the locks are
down when you pull the key out, and when you open the door the locks going
up closes the leak and allows the engine to shut down.  They're pretty easy
to diagnose, but more of a pain to actually repair.

On 4/7/06, Dan Schriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have just purchased a 1982 300 CDT. When I shut the car off at the key
 it
 runs on and on. Lately it will shut off when I open the driver's door
 (coincidence or design?) or maybe it tires of me pushing the stop button
 under the hood. Can anyone direct me to the cause and the fix of this
 annoyance. Other then that I love the car.

 Thanks in advance.

 Dan


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Re: [MBZ] 1982 300 CDT Runs on and on and on ...

2006-04-08 Thread Jim Cathey
I have just purchased a 1982 300 CDT. When I shut the car off at the 
key it

runs on and on. Lately it will shut off when I open the driver's door


Classic vacuum leak.  If you don't already, you must have a MityVac,
preferably one of the newer/better ones that does pressure too.  Is
it just when you swing open the door, or do the locks move first?
If the former, you have a cracked vacuum hose going through the
door hinge area.  But if cycling the locks is what makes it shut
off you have a torn diaphragm in one of the doors, or the trunk.
Great fun to find and fix, but you start chasing those at the tees
under the front floormats.  (Under the black plastic channels.)
There are five diaphragm-equipped dinguses to break.

-- Jim